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Speaker 1: Sam Donald has been phenomenal entirety of the season. Listen, yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't on my ingo card. I'm just gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with you. I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2: Honest with you.
Speaker 3: If he led it for.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who did they give it to? Who else
Speaker 1: did they give it to? You have to because you're
Speaker 1: not expecting it. You've seen him being started in New York.
Speaker 1: You've seen him being started. He's ineligible.
Speaker 2: Because he didn't come back from Elder because after they
Speaker 2: gave it to Joe Flacco, people got upset there, Like
Speaker 2: hold on, Joe didn't come back from nothing.
Speaker 3: He just came back off the damn couch on.
Speaker 1: I just I understand, but listen, I understand. You got
Speaker 1: to move the gold post a little bit when it
Speaker 1: comes to the sweat looking forth to the damn what's
Speaker 1: the word anyway? He chap. Sam Donalds deserves come back
Speaker 1: Play of the Year, whether he's coming back from an injury,
Speaker 1: whether he come back from playing bad. We've seen what
Speaker 1: he looked like news in Carolina. We saw what he
Speaker 1: looked like he was with the New York Jets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the playing the way he played this year. Man, he's
Speaker 1: deserving of that award. I don't care what the pre
Speaker 1: records may be to win it. Man, forget that.
Speaker 2: He just nah old Joe, cause you can't come back
Speaker 2: from playing bad. You just some salts. You got to
Speaker 2: come back an illness. You got to come back from
Speaker 2: a major injury. Uh, like Adrian Peterson, like Teddy Bruski,
Speaker 2: like Tom Brady, you know you need you gotta come back.
Speaker 1: Well, nobody, nobody's, nobody's in contention to win that award
Speaker 1: because nobody's playing that damn well that's coming off of
Speaker 1: any type of injury or illness. So this year we
Speaker 1: need to just give the award to goddamn Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know who I need to talk to.
Speaker 1: I don't know who's soapboxing I need to stand on
Speaker 1: and who I need to send a letter of recommendations
Speaker 1: to for Sam Donald.
Speaker 3: But I will do so. I'm trying to think who's
Speaker 3: even eligible that I can think of quarter.
Speaker 1: Back, And in the fact that you have to think,
Speaker 1: let you know who needs to win it? That is
Speaker 1: right there, I got, I got a peep real quick,
Speaker 1: uh teller, that's the case.
Speaker 3: What do you call I'm gonna win it? Joe Burrow?
Speaker 3: Joe Joe. I mean Joe Burrow had torn ligaments in
Speaker 3: his wrist.
Speaker 2: So I mean, if I had a vote, that's who
Speaker 2: I'm voting for because he is coming back off of
Speaker 2: something coming back because you are, lack of a better term,
Speaker 2: suck that ain't overcoming something that's overcoming your own bad play.
Speaker 2: That's not an injury, that's not an illness. I think
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow would would would will will probably win that
Speaker 2: award considering he missed what five six games last year,
Speaker 2: and he's coming back, and he's leading the league in
Speaker 2: touchdown pass it passes, he's leading the league, and and
Speaker 2: and and and passing yardage. Yeah, it's for me. That's
Speaker 2: why I think would win it. I would definitely give
Speaker 2: it to him. Oh okay, yeah, JK Dobbinson. Hell, he
Speaker 2: out again, so he might be able to before next year.
Speaker 2: He might be able to before next year. But I
Speaker 2: get why they're doing it this way because Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: got it and all he did was come off his couch.
Speaker 2: He didn't come off an injury or anything like that.
Speaker 2: And it's like, that's not what coming back from because
Speaker 2: that's the case. There are a lot of guys that's
Speaker 2: coming that that suck one year and played really well
Speaker 2: the next year, But that's not what the war was
Speaker 2: intended for.
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow's gonna win this award. You know that, right, Joe?
Speaker 2: You remember Joe Burr. Joe Burrow hurt his wrist last year.
Speaker 2: He missed six games. Okay, now you still think, you
Speaker 2: still think Sam Donald's gonna get that, You get that award.
Speaker 1: Don't try to put Joe in this. Don't try to
Speaker 1: put you in this conversation. Then on conversation you want
Speaker 1: to have and you want to use Joe Burrow's name,
Speaker 1: it needs to be the MVP conversation, I no comeback
Speaker 1: play of the year. We used to see great.
Speaker 2: Did Joe did Joe Burrow overcoming it? Did he finish
Speaker 2: the season last year? It's a simple question and simple
Speaker 2: yes or a simple note. Did Joe Burrow finish the
Speaker 2: season for the Cincinnati Bakers last year? So therefore he
Speaker 2: would have been a player that overcame injury or an illness.
Speaker 2: Now what was the injury or the illness that Sam
Speaker 2: Donald overcame to make himself eligible for this award?
Speaker 1: The illness is having to play for the Jets organization.
Speaker 3: He wasn't with the Jeff He's with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3: He was the backup.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's try again the Panthers organization. Then he wasn't
Speaker 2: on the Panther that was two years ago. He was
Speaker 2: on the forty nine ers or the backup role again.
Speaker 2: Let's you know what the god tamn, the the mental.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a word to use help
Speaker 1: Sam Sam out right here, and I can't think of
Speaker 1: an argument. I can't think of the argument.
Speaker 3: Well that lets you know right there, you got it.
Speaker 2: Okay, if there's the m YP if you want to
Speaker 2: say most improved player, but only that's the only in
Speaker 2: basketball you don't have.
Speaker 1: Right Listen, I'm trying to figure out the argument for him,
Speaker 1: but I can't. Right now, I can't.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna figure out an argument for Sam Donald?
Speaker 2: Oh with Joe burnn for comeback player?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm not.
Speaker 3: I don't. Listen.
Speaker 1: We're used to seeing Joe play great in regards. We're
Speaker 1: not saying, oh, all of a sudden, he came back
Speaker 1: from because when you're seeing him play like this, that's
Speaker 1: but that's not the most improved. It's come back. Come back.
Speaker 2: In the definition of the bylaws, you must come back
Speaker 2: from an injury or an illness. You still haven't told
Speaker 2: me the injury or the illness that Sam Donald came
Speaker 2: The illness is having to be a backup for some
Speaker 2: some horrendous teams.
Speaker 3: What being a backup for job?
Speaker 1: I say that, I'm just saying the two before that,
Speaker 1: the previous ones before that.
Speaker 2: You don't get up in it. So you want to jump,
Speaker 2: you want to jump? Two years, three years? Listen, it said, Okay,
Speaker 2: he's still overcoming a mental toll on you. That stuff
Speaker 2: takes a mental toll, and you can can you imagine,
Speaker 2: you know, the dysfunction you have to deal with back
Speaker 2: to back in two different places. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you get the sunshine over in San Francisco where things
Speaker 2: are okay, but you don't get to see the field.
Speaker 1: You don't get to show them what you can do.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: What, I'll give it the bright young then how about that? Right?
Speaker 3: With one game?
Speaker 1: We looking good though he see looking good. We we
Speaker 1: we get we get that in a minute. But that's
Speaker 1: a good I.
Speaker 2: Mean, you don't want to get you don't want to
Speaker 2: give it on the bright the hold Chuck is out.
Speaker 2: He was one game last year and he got bitched
Speaker 2: during the season this year. Damn.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know there's there's a chance.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 1: I don't know there's a chance with sing with Sam don.
Speaker 3: I would give it the Ricky Ricky Pierce all got shot.
Speaker 3: Take they all got shot. Come on, you don't think.
Speaker 2: That's something somebody come on that beat that gotta beat
Speaker 2: something down't count.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, Sam is playing so well. I think he's
Speaker 1: played himself. He please played himself into a good contract
Speaker 1: with another team. But I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Vikings let him go I don't think the Vikings
Speaker 1: let him go simply because of the uncertainty and JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy going to be healthy and ready to go when
Speaker 1: he gets back. Is it another situation where it could
Speaker 1: be like a Kirk Cousins and a Michael Pitting Jr.
Speaker 1: Do we secure Sam Donald and knowing what he gives
Speaker 1: you if McCarthy happens to go down again, I.
Speaker 2: Mean you, yeah, you win it the best one hundred
Speaker 2: plus million guaranteed, because you see what And I tried
Speaker 2: to tell you and you said no, Now, Cousins made
Speaker 2: sixty two million this year. He's gonna make another thirty
Speaker 2: eight million next year to get him at one hundred.
Speaker 3: Now they're not gonna pick up that roster bonus.
Speaker 2: Because they picked up the roster bonus, they had to
Speaker 2: ensure the rest of it, which would have made a
Speaker 2: hundred eighty million.
Speaker 3: So now he gonna be being pulled a russ. You
Speaker 3: okay with that? Now? It don't look And I tried,
Speaker 3: and I said, oh, yoke.
Speaker 2: At best pat scenario, Cousins give you two years, that's
Speaker 2: the absolute best case, and you paying him one hundred million.
Speaker 3: But what happens if he gives you one and you
Speaker 3: gave me.
Speaker 1: It was one of your hope your fingers across, your
Speaker 1: fingers across, and it didn't. It didn't work. It didn't
Speaker 1: work out how we thought it would. We didn't get
Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins that we thought we were gonna get.
Speaker 1: Now we saw him. We saw him.
Speaker 3: Oh we did. We got the first half. But there's
Speaker 3: a five game stretch when you got the Kirk Cousins
Speaker 3: that we know he can potentially be also. But when
Speaker 3: he was on, he was on.
Speaker 1: But when he's off, oh oh he off. I'm some
Speaker 1: about he off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well he's off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hide the women and children because hey, he about
Speaker 2: to put his past down.
Speaker 3: It ain't ain't it ain't pretty.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was bad. It was really really bad.
Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens defeated the Pittsburgh Steelers boy to score
Speaker 2: thirty four to seventeen. They clicked the playoff spot, moved
Speaker 2: one game. Now they win Pittsburgh lose, they take over
Speaker 2: the sole possession of the AFC South. The two teams
Speaker 2: are tied atop the division at ten and five. Heading
Speaker 2: into the final two weeks of the regular season, the
Speaker 2: Ravens stretched ball security all week, turning the ball over
Speaker 2: nineteen times in the past nine games against the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Today it was the Ravens that forced the takeaways. They
Speaker 2: forced to pick six. Marlon Humphrey picked Russell Wilson after
Speaker 2: Minka Fitzpatrick had picked Lamar Jackson, and then Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: I don't know why he didn't slide, because Russell normally slides,
Speaker 2: but oh yeah, got into a situation he thought he
Speaker 2: could run the guy over, and the guy walked it,
Speaker 2: and the ball popped out because oh joe, they're going
Speaker 2: in the score touchdown and y'aw, you don't even get
Speaker 2: any points out of that drive. They tacked the ball
Speaker 2: go back down the field the other way. But the
Speaker 2: Ravens played really good today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very Chad. Hold did y'all notice that the thing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Hey, I don't know, say you think today? How many
Speaker 5: how many carries? How many carries? About sixty two twenty
Speaker 5: four carries? No, guess how many throws? Lamar Jackson here?
Speaker 5: How many twenty three?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, you could tell unc unk can watched the
Speaker 2: highlight okay, watching the games. Yeah, Unkins watched the thousand
Speaker 2: games and understands how the game goes. That guy in
Speaker 2: the backfield makes the game a lot easier for Lamar
Speaker 2: because now he's shooting Fisher barrel.
Speaker 3: You know why, because when.
Speaker 2: He sticks that ball in that number two two Bellott
Speaker 2: and he pulls it out, all of a sudden, them
Speaker 2: safety is running downhill. Because it's very hard to stop
Speaker 2: six foot two, two hundred and forty five pounds with
Speaker 2: a light.
Speaker 1: Box, especially when it's gonna coming downhill. Now, you want,
Speaker 1: you want, you want somebody that big. You want him
Speaker 1: going east. Now, if they're going east to waste, it's okay,
Speaker 1: you got it, you got it, you got a chance.
Speaker 1: But once he's coming downhill, man, listen, May God be
Speaker 1: with you. But you know what, they did something different.
Speaker 1: They did a lot of they put him in They
Speaker 1: actually put him in the offset, and he did a
Speaker 1: lot of rolling back.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: The ball going one way and he ran him back.
Speaker 2: But give that Ravens offensive line credit. They did an
Speaker 2: outstanding job today because he talks about a team that
Speaker 2: gives up ninety four yards a game rushing, and today
Speaker 2: they ran the ball thirty eight times for two hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty yards.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, well, listen, I'm not sure. I might I
Speaker 1: might be wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong, Ash if
Speaker 1: anybody that can hear me in the back. I think
Speaker 1: Lamar against the Steelers, he might have been one and three,
Speaker 1: maybe one and four, yeah, something like against Steelers. So
Speaker 1: this is this is one of his first times winning
Speaker 1: and winning and convincing fashion and somewhat of a playoff
Speaker 1: a playoff atmosphere. This is what it would be like.
Speaker 1: This would be like obviously I wouldn't say you would
Speaker 1: be playing the Steelers, but still a gameless magnitude where
Speaker 1: everything needs to go right. Yeah, everything offensively, decency. They
Speaker 1: played very very well and for Lamar obviously, kudos to
Speaker 1: him as well. I think he has thirty six thirty
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns passes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had thirty seven and another three Russians, So
Speaker 2: he has forty touchdowns with four interceptions. He have a
Speaker 2: couple of fumbles, but he has created I have fewer
Speaker 2: than eight turnovers with forty exceptions. Now, absolutely, Now everybody
Speaker 2: keeps saying, with those numbers, y'all didn't say those numbers
Speaker 2: last year because Lamar Jackson had twenty three touchdowns and
Speaker 2: eight interceptions.
Speaker 3: Y'all fit it with the record. Look at his team.
Speaker 2: Now, y'all want to flip it because y'all guy got
Speaker 2: the better numbers, and y'all don't want to look at
Speaker 2: the record.
Speaker 3: So what do we do it? If it record?
Speaker 2: Because y'all make it seem like Josh Allen got twenty
Speaker 2: two yards passing. I just go by what y'all said,
Speaker 2: because last year when Lamar Jackson had twenty three passing
Speaker 2: touchdown Ojoe in eight interception, they said Lamar was the
Speaker 2: MVP because look at the record, Shannon, isn't it about
Speaker 2: winning or it about stats?
Speaker 3: I just want to know record? Is it about winning
Speaker 3: or is it about staff? I'm just asking chat. Y'all
Speaker 3: didn't like me.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, every it depends on who you asked. It
Speaker 1: depends who he asked. No, your ANSWER's gonna change, depends
Speaker 1: on who you asked. The gold post gonna move too,
Speaker 1: now you know it is gold line. I mean I
Speaker 1: thought the people was one hundred yard y'all used one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty down.
Speaker 3: Damn what the why it is? Score?
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: The honest answer?
Speaker 3: Yes, a chat?
Speaker 1: Y'all y'all let me know. Also in the chat, if
Speaker 1: you had to pick today if there was an MVP
Speaker 1: tomorrow for you based on what they've done this season.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how. I don't know how you gauge it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you graded who is your MVP.
Speaker 1: Be honest, be honest with yourself, and you know, take
Speaker 1: the favoritism amount even if it is your team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who you pe boy? That's tough.
Speaker 2: It's tough because that is hard to ignore Lamar's season.
Speaker 2: The man has thirty seven passing touchdowns with poor interceptions
Speaker 2: and he's probably around what four thousand yards.
Speaker 3: Miles.
Speaker 2: Garrett wants to be a part of the Browns, but
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be a part of the Browns
Speaker 2: if they're in a rebuild mode. Garrett said, I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to rebuild. I'm trying to win right now, and
Speaker 2: I want that to be a parent. When the season
Speaker 2: is over and we have those discussions, I want them
Speaker 2: to be able to illuminate or illustrate that for me
Speaker 2: so that I can see something I can see in
Speaker 2: the near future, because that's all I want to do.
Speaker 2: I want to stay law to the team that show
Speaker 2: loalty to me and faith in me by drafting me.
Speaker 2: But we have to do at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: what's best for us. Garrett, a five time Pro bowler,
Speaker 2: a three time All Pro played just has played in
Speaker 2: just three postseason games. Two of them came in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty when the Browns earned their first playoff win since
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, and again last season, and he lopsided
Speaker 2: forty five to fourteen loss to the Houston Texas.
Speaker 1: Hey, Ojoe, I like the huts. I like the ultimatum. Basically,
Speaker 1: that's that's all it is at this point. If we're
Speaker 1: in a rebuilding stage, if we don't find a resolution
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, please do right by me so
Speaker 1: I can have a chance to compete at at the
Speaker 1: playoffs and for a Lombardi Trophy. Allow me to go
Speaker 1: to a team that that's going to be in contention.
Speaker 1: Where would that be?
Speaker 2: I should have had my name on the back. Why
Speaker 2: ain't getting the name of the back of my shirt?
Speaker 3: I need?
Speaker 2: I need by name?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you get your names, get your names this
Speaker 1: on there?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I want to get my dable to back by back
Speaker 2: down recognize who I am. If I don't got my
Speaker 2: name on it, I understand. I understand. It's frustration. But
Speaker 2: let me ask you a question, Oh Joe, how close?
Speaker 2: How close do you think the Bengals? Bengals, the Browns
Speaker 2: are to be a legitimate team that could ultimately reach
Speaker 2: the destiny that mile be.
Speaker 1: Honest with you there, the Browns have a very good defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have a very very good defense. I know.
Speaker 3: I let me let me you don't win with defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Youa quarter back away for what the past thirty
Speaker 1: forty years, they are they are a quarterback away. I'm
Speaker 1: not just talking about any quarterback. I'm talking about the c. J.
Speaker 3: Stroud.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Jade and Daniels. You know, Patrick Well,
Speaker 1: ain't no Patrick Mahomes coming along no time. Let me
Speaker 1: stop right there, but uh, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson and
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Yeah, from competing, you know for a championship
Speaker 1: or at least continuing year and the year out, uh
Speaker 1: at a playoff spot. Their quarterback away and have been
Speaker 1: for years. And if you look at what the Browns
Speaker 1: have been through for however long it's been, when it's
Speaker 1: been trying to find a quarterback, and let you know
Speaker 1: how important that position is. You can't start, you can't
Speaker 1: start the franchise. You can't build a team. You know,
Speaker 1: in any way you're gonna have pieces and a great player.
Speaker 1: You know, you have your Miles Garretson, you have your
Speaker 1: Denzel Wars, but you will never be able to compete.
Speaker 3: In the A s C.
Speaker 1: North, in the playoffs even before god damn Lombardi Trophy
Speaker 1: unless you're haveing got damn.
Speaker 3: Right what happened?
Speaker 1: Laughing at.
Speaker 3: But she made me a name late.
Speaker 2: But that's and unfortunately the Browns might have to make
Speaker 2: a very difficult decision and trade their best player in order.
Speaker 1: To rest and get what they need. Trail Miles garret
Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback of your of your future,
Speaker 1: which I'm not sure how it would because the quarterback
Speaker 1: of your future would probably be in the draft.
Speaker 2: That well, that means what you do is that you
Speaker 2: give up drafts. Somebody might be a first round and
Speaker 2: a third rounder.
Speaker 3: And they.
Speaker 6: Seven, he's a young one. But you listen, you gotta
Speaker 6: you gotta keep shooting. You gotta keep keep you gotta
Speaker 6: keep shooting shooting for that quarterback. You gotta keep shooting
Speaker 6: because until you get one.
Speaker 2: Somebody talk about Miles Guarantee, the Ravens and Kirk Cousins
Speaker 2: to the Brown.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 2: Hell, nah, I should tell you right now, they ain't
Speaker 2: doing that to you. They'll never The Ravens couldn't give
Speaker 2: up three first rounds to get Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: He definitely ain't going into the into division.
Speaker 3: You don't know. Gee, no forgetting that for the Steelers,
Speaker 3: the Ravens. Uh.
Speaker 2: The Bengals, Oh no, absolutely not. Jamar chased the Tea Higgins.
Speaker 3: I just told him.
Speaker 2: What's stuck together for life. Now we're locked there for life.
Speaker 2: Oh yo shud. The Bengals do everything they possibly can
Speaker 2: to resign T. Higgins with the defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't understand.
Speaker 3: I love the idea of it.
Speaker 1: I love I love Joe Burrow, Joe, I love you Chase,
Speaker 1: I love you T. But you know how I feel
Speaker 1: about you, boy, You know how I feel about you.
Speaker 1: But to get what you deserve, stay with me now,
Speaker 1: listen to me, T. I know you're gonna see this.
Speaker 1: To get what you deserve like, it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard. Y'all need to understand the business
Speaker 1: aspect of things.
Speaker 3: You know, T.
Speaker 1: You work your ass off T to get where you
Speaker 1: at to get the Clemson to get to the NFL.
Speaker 1: All the hard work you put in, you deserve to
Speaker 1: be paid as the receiver that you are. You are
Speaker 1: a fucking number one receiver, you hear me. And we're
Speaker 1: one of the two teams, one of the few teams
Speaker 1: in the NFL that has been fortunate to have two
Speaker 1: number one receivers. Now it's time for you to be
Speaker 1: paid as such. I would love to see you stay
Speaker 1: with the Bengals. I would love it me as a Bangal.
Speaker 1: But then I'm able to separate my love for the
Speaker 1: team and understanding what you.
Speaker 3: Deserve as or work you put in. This is this
Speaker 3: is me real.
Speaker 1: I am, I'm bangles everything, So I just I love
Speaker 1: the idea. Though, man, I love Joe, and then what
Speaker 1: Joe would be willing to do, I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: they can. They can work it kind of contractually where
Speaker 1: they can make it happen.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Defensively, we need help. Defensively, we need we need help.
Speaker 1: We need pieces in certain places that will allow us
Speaker 1: to compete in that a North division because everybody else
Speaker 1: is getting big. But but you got man. I understand
Speaker 1: you love the sing, you love you boys, But I
Speaker 1: just me personally, I want what's best for you, and
Speaker 1: it's coming from I'm if I cut myself right now,
Speaker 1: I bleed black in art. But I want you to
Speaker 1: get what you deserve, boy, because you don't put the
Speaker 1: work you deserve it.
Speaker 2: Come again, Just black, ain't no Norge. Just black ain't
Speaker 2: nothing Norge. Oh Joe, Chase Joe. You see your offense,
Speaker 2: even though y'all putting up these numbers, Look at your
Speaker 2: Look at y'all losing. You're not gonna win her. Look
Speaker 2: at go back and look even the greatest show on
Speaker 2: turf in two thousand and one, they got beat. The
Speaker 2: Broncos scored the most points in the NFL history. They
Speaker 2: got beat the uh uh uh, the Patriots, they got
Speaker 2: beat the Washington football team before they became that the
Speaker 2: you know the Indian name. They got b If you
Speaker 2: cannot stop somebody, you can't score enough points to.
Speaker 3: Do it to win, you just can't.
Speaker 2: The NFL history has shown back. I guest just gave
Speaker 2: you the four highest scoring teams in NFL history. Minnesotas.
Speaker 2: Think about Minnesota Vikings, they got beat before they got
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. Go back and look at the
Speaker 2: eighty three Washington team.
Speaker 3: They got beaten.
Speaker 2: Go back and look at the two thousand and seven Patriots,
Speaker 2: they got beat Go back and look at the twenty
Speaker 2: thirteen Broncos, they got beat.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, I want everybody to get their money, but I'm
Speaker 2: afraid Tea's gonna probably have to go somewhere to get
Speaker 2: that money because if the Bengals are serious, they got
Speaker 2: to upgrade their defense.
Speaker 3: I hate it.
Speaker 1: I hate it for Tea, I hate it for Joe.
Speaker 3: I hated for Chase.
Speaker 1: I hate it for the fans of Cincinnati. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody loves everybody loves t Hell. I love t I
Speaker 1: like him, and I love what he brings to that
Speaker 1: offense and what he's able to do. Him and Chase
Speaker 1: are completely different to me. Again, like I see, I
Speaker 1: view them as two number one receivers, both of them
Speaker 1: that get the job done in a different way. Listen,
Speaker 1: it's multiple ways of skin a cat. But at that
Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, you know they
Speaker 1: played that, They played the receiver position, and they do
Speaker 1: it very well in two totally different styles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't see how you can have too
Speaker 2: a forty million dollar receiver and a thirty million dollar
Speaker 2: receiver and a fifty five dollar quarterback in your defense's energy.
Speaker 1: Damn man, I would love to see it though, And
Speaker 1: I'm listen, I don't. I don't know how to do numbers.
Speaker 1: I'm not good at that. You know, that's not something
Speaker 1: that I do do And just trying to see is
Speaker 1: it even possible, is it even feasible for them to
Speaker 1: do anything? And just you can't. You can't now if
Speaker 1: it's this was Madden, we can make it work.
Speaker 3: Nope, we can work.
Speaker 1: We can move some things around, we can make it work.
Speaker 1: But in real life, yeah, no understanding and norm what
Speaker 1: he deserves, man, and don't don't do don't do my
Speaker 1: dog like that, oh Joe.
Speaker 2: The Falcons are expected to cut Kirk Cousins before the
Speaker 2: ten million dollar roster bonus. Due this will reportedly cancel
Speaker 2: the rest of one hundred and eighty million dollars that
Speaker 2: included the hundred million dollar guarantee. Huge what you think,
Speaker 2: huge error? But hold on, how much of the money
Speaker 2: is getting he still gonna have?
Speaker 3: He got hey?
Speaker 2: Listen, Wow, so it canceled the last eight so he's
Speaker 2: still getting a hundred million because he may then you
Speaker 2: can't say face And that was my Oho. We had
Speaker 2: this conversation. I said, Oho, it doesn't make sense. I say,
Speaker 2: at best case scenario, you're gonna get one year out
Speaker 2: of cousins. You feeling tell me he's not. There's only
Speaker 2: one quarterback that I'm paying one hundred million dollars, and
Speaker 2: that's Patrick Mahomes if he ain't.
Speaker 1: Sure and importance of having a quarterback at the position,
Speaker 1: even though the quarterback, the said quarterback in question right
Speaker 1: now is only one one playoff game. You know what
Speaker 1: you get from it in the season?
Speaker 3: You know what? What's that you cold?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay? Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you understand, Yeah, I got I
Speaker 1: got mind, don't he Earnybody's gonna see me in mine
Speaker 1: every day from now on, whenever it's time to travel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you you understand why, you know, teams pay for
Speaker 1: the quarterback position like that, because in order for your
Speaker 1: team to function, you got to have a quarterback.
Speaker 3: And you know what, you know what you got? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 3: the fat the Falcon of the Mountains.
Speaker 1: It is one of my junior show from now on.
Speaker 3: I know that.
Speaker 1: Lucky Lucky the FD. What's that besides is that it
Speaker 1: looks like a robe? Okay, yeah, I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: wait till I get home the mind mine. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Hey you know what Hey, listen people, the people in
Speaker 1: the chat, you need to understand when you order. When
Speaker 1: you order, you know the cotton and you feel the material.
Speaker 1: This ain't just any kind of cotton. This is one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand sheep. This is kind of cotton that the
Speaker 1: Pharaoh slept on. Yeah yeah, you hear me, Just do
Speaker 1: anybody mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah the nights the night we get in some year
Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah, yeah, cover up.
Speaker 1: Hey, you look like you look like you know Brian's
Speaker 1: who saying with the one? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm say. Oh you know you know what time
Speaker 3: it is?
Speaker 1: You do?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: You boy? Do that right here? Oh yo, so about that?
Speaker 3: Hey what to do about it? Hey? Yeah? Yeah, you
Speaker 3: better not be though about to run down.
Speaker 2: But oh, Joe, we talked, when we talked about this,
Speaker 2: I said, Oh Joe, let's just say for the yeah,
Speaker 2: the best case scenario, you get two years. Work case
Speaker 2: you get one year. Oh Joe, you got to pay
Speaker 2: this man one hundred million, you know, for.
Speaker 1: The casual fan? Uh not understanding you understand how teams work.
Speaker 1: You understand how owners work and how bad they need
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes you have to overpay.
Speaker 3: I was one kind of mistake on me. That's the
Speaker 3: one dies. What happened? Oh Joe you Joe you remember?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: The guys used to get paid and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we've made a mistake. I was like, why can't nobody,
Speaker 2: no team make a mistake on me like that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: give me, give me, give me twelve million. He's fourteen million,
Speaker 2: send me on my damn way. Uh huh hunt o Joe.
Speaker 2: Actually uh And I said this, I said this on
Speaker 2: first tape. I said they got President Trump as Time
Speaker 2: as Time Person of the Year, Time Magazine Person of
Speaker 2: the Year. That Kirk Coutin agen, Yeah, Kirk cousin agent
Speaker 2: should be Time Magazine Person of the Year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know you made a grip?
Speaker 2: Do you know how about cousins and paid for what?
Speaker 2: But please, I'm thinked about I'm thinking about getting hit.
Speaker 2: But I love my team, So I'm just playing Josh
Speaker 2: but and Margaret.
Speaker 1: But man, listen, you gotta understand. He bet on himself twice.
Speaker 1: He bet on himself twice, and then it's all, yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Got the franchise tag twice, and then he goes to Minnesota,
Speaker 2: Oh Yo. They fully guaranteed the contract for the first
Speaker 2: time in NFL history. They fully guarant he and guess
Speaker 2: what they did. He played so well, No Kirk and
Speaker 2: lights you up. You ain't wearing nothing, but you canna
Speaker 2: light you up. They really, they fully guaranteed that. That's contract.
Speaker 2: So you think about this franchise tag full of guaranteed.
Speaker 2: Franchise tag full of guaranteed. He got three years full
Speaker 2: of gamete. He got another three years full of guaranteed.
Speaker 2: First cousin got eight years fully guaranteed.
Speaker 1: About Kirk too, You know he's he's a child of
Speaker 1: God too. Now he's the child of God. And one
Speaker 1: thing about it, your couple will run a throat if
Speaker 1: you can just put that man at the forefront. So no,
Speaker 1: regardless of regardless of how his play has been, whether
Speaker 1: it's stellar or whether it's been bad. Huh, the Most
Speaker 1: High has always had his back.
Speaker 3: That boy, who you telling fair? What do you do part?
Speaker 3: What you're looking for? A pardon up there?
Speaker 1: Bad?
Speaker 3: Now? What I'm saying is bet that be Hey, hey,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get that.
Speaker 1: Let him Let him know I'm hey, listen, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not trying. I'm not trying to flex. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to flex. But I need you to understand. I
Speaker 1: need the people in the chat they understand, like, this
Speaker 1: is not a bad thing for Jerry Judy.
Speaker 3: This was a good thing.
Speaker 1: This was a good thing. I saved my brother, Jerry
Speaker 1: Judy's career. Jerry Judy is one of the best best
Speaker 1: best receivers in today's game. He's fifth right now in
Speaker 1: receiving yards. Can you imagine if he went to that
Speaker 1: abysmal organization right now, jets. So I think people need,
Speaker 1: especially Jerry, I think you need to see the good
Speaker 1: side on on why I kept your rating as low
Speaker 1: as I did, because the owners respect the decision making
Speaker 1: that I have known that he did. Who no Woody
Speaker 1: Johnson does. Yeah, I know to say, but I listen,
Speaker 1: I'm in those rooms. They talked to me, They asked
Speaker 1: me some of these questions, you know, and they base
Speaker 1: it their understanding that the rating is based on what
Speaker 1: you're doing in real life. Huh, stay with me, now,
Speaker 1: it is based on what you're doing in real life.
Speaker 1: So they take that into account and the fact that
Speaker 1: I am the Maddings rating adjuster and one whose credit
Speaker 1: credibility is of a high standard.
Speaker 3: He can follow that.
Speaker 1: And I'm listen, I'm I'm happy to be at the
Speaker 1: position to do so and and and health careers, and
Speaker 1: that's what I've done for Jerry Judy. Congratulations on a
Speaker 1: hell of a season so far. Let's finish his last
Speaker 1: three games off strong, and next year's rating will start
Speaker 1: out at a ninety five.
Speaker 3: Hell Na, how you gonna go from eighty mid eighties
Speaker 3: to a ninety five?
Speaker 1: Because he be from the crib. From the crib, and
Speaker 1: I can go I can go in internally and change
Speaker 1: it on my own.
Speaker 2: Rookie Michael Pennis Junior will take over the starting quarterback
Speaker 2: in job from Kirk Cousins. The number eight pick in
Speaker 2: the NFL draft, Pinnis will make his debut as an
Speaker 2: NFL start a Sunday against the Giants in Atlanta. Raheem
Speaker 2: Moore said, there was a football decision and we're fully
Speaker 2: focused on preparing the team for Sunday night game against
Speaker 2: the Giants. Pennis Junior rezil he found out when he's
Speaker 2: getting Falcons that he was getting the Falcons starting gig
Speaker 2: while shopping at costco for a hot dog.
Speaker 3: Do you like the move? Oh?
Speaker 1: I love it, even with them still having an opportunity.
Speaker 1: I think they think they need to make a change.
Speaker 1: They need to make a change. Get that offensive spark,
Speaker 1: give that team a spark. I think it was smart
Speaker 1: by the coach to make the decision. I'm excited to
Speaker 1: see what Pennington do. Obviously, being somewhat of a dual
Speaker 1: threat quarterback as opposed to Kirk Cousins, who was somewhat stationary.
Speaker 1: He has to play better. He knows he has to
Speaker 1: play better the last what for last two or three games?
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't play that kind of football. You
Speaker 1: just can't. You can't turn the ball over like that
Speaker 1: and put your team in harm's way and expect yourself
Speaker 1: to compete, let alone even have a chance at winning
Speaker 1: a game playing the quarterback position. That god damn bad.
Speaker 1: Like that was bad. That was very good.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought that he would like keep the job. Oh,
Speaker 2: cho for the simple fact that's still a game behind.
Speaker 2: But they're like, look the giants coming in. It's either
Speaker 2: it's it's just as good as time as they.
Speaker 3: Make that change.
Speaker 2: But think about it, Kirk, Cousin's gonna make sixty two
Speaker 2: million dollars this year. He's got another thirty two thirty
Speaker 2: eight million coming in next year. That's guaranteed either way.
Speaker 2: And they well, yeah, they're gonna bring it back. They're
Speaker 2: gonna bring him back. But can you imagine sitting on
Speaker 2: the bench next year behind Penning Jr.
Speaker 3: Making it? Oh, now, you can't have you can't have no,
Speaker 3: you can't have no guy making thirty eight million.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be at what you're gonna do. Theyin't gonna
Speaker 1: put it. They can't, they can't. They can't cut him.
Speaker 3: You gotta try, You gotta try to trade it, and
Speaker 3: you might have to take some of that salary on,
Speaker 3: but you can't.
Speaker 1: They have to pay most of the sality like the
Speaker 1: Broncos is doing with Russell Wilson. And now mm hmm yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, where where else do you see
Speaker 1: him fit?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: Where else do you see where quarterback is in? There
Speaker 1: in need and dire need of a quarterback, especially with
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming out draft.
Speaker 3: Is the Giants, the Raiders, the Giants, the rail there's two.
Speaker 3: Now they're probably going to be in the market to
Speaker 3: select one.
Speaker 2: But what's to stop them from from the Giants and
Speaker 2: the Raiders from doing what the BRONC what that fatty.
Speaker 3: Draft the quarterback and didn't make it.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, there was that.
Speaker 3: That means it was.
Speaker 1: That means they would be bringing Kurt in on a
Speaker 1: one year deal. If anything, what if you trade for him,
Speaker 1: you got the remaining deal.
Speaker 2: I mean it was a four year deal, like one
Speaker 2: hundred and something million, like one hundred and eighty million
Speaker 2: dollars for it was forty five million a year.
Speaker 3: Now the question is O Joe, I mean, Cleveland needs
Speaker 3: a quarterback. I'm trying to think who else needs a quarterback? FC?
Speaker 3: So see where LLC?
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait, wait a minute, what we were
Speaker 1: talking about? Cleveland needs a quarterback. When Deshaun Watson comes
Speaker 1: back and he from his injury, he will be the
Speaker 1: start of next year for you. It's dead cap money
Speaker 1: that you know. That is guaranteed.
Speaker 3: Boy, they'll eat it if he ain't producing his dead
Speaker 3: cap money. Let's be real, we have you here.
Speaker 2: If if he's only gonna give them for the production
Speaker 2: that he's given them, he's been there.
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3: I'm listen with you.
Speaker 2: When you're right, where's the value in that? Look, I
Speaker 2: just I'm gonna say I'm surprised. Uh, but it just
Speaker 2: goes to show you that they're this close and they'll
Speaker 2: game back and if they beat Tampa, they if they
Speaker 2: beat Tampa, let's just say they beat Tampa. The sweet Tampa.
Speaker 2: They got the same record, that means they win the division.
Speaker 2: For them to beat this close and they make this
Speaker 2: move it less you know just how bad Cousins will play?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean ship hell, God, damn Ray Charles to
Speaker 1: see how bad Kirk Cousins is playing. You can't turn
Speaker 1: the ball over like that and expect to win and compete.
Speaker 3: And the Titans need a quarterback to go yoe the Titans.
Speaker 1: Oh man, hey, hey, I feel sorry for Will Levis.
Speaker 3: Why I feel sorry for the Titans fans?
Speaker 1: I'm serious. But when you when you when you look
Speaker 1: at when you look at young bull Man and you
Speaker 1: look at his makeup, you look at his DNA, his
Speaker 1: stature and when the eye tests in general, know the
Speaker 1: arm strength and what he's able to do, you know,
Speaker 1: being able to run the ball as well.
Speaker 3: He looks like a Josh Shallen.
Speaker 1: He doesn't play life.
Speaker 3: He has all Yeah, he looked like Josh Shallen. He
Speaker 3: played like Woody Allen.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, good and terrible.
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill's social media post wins to beginning huge debate
Speaker 2: on what he meant it's time for me to go
Speaker 2: coach Tyree without punctuation. Dolphins fans panic wonder if he
Speaker 2: was telling Mike McDaniel if it's time to leave Miami. Well,
Speaker 2: Tyreek said today, what I meant was when it says
Speaker 2: it's time for me to go coach, meanie that he
Speaker 2: want to see you guys, Teddy Bridge hold up? Meaning
Speaker 2: what when we see guys like Teddy Bridgewater, you see
Speaker 2: guys like Michael Big getting head coaching job, It's like, bro,
Speaker 2: I want to be a coach. Also when I'm done playing.
Speaker 2: Uh you know what I'm saying, Oh, time for me
Speaker 2: to go coach?
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, okay, I get I get I get it.
Speaker 3: Thank, I get it. That that reak everybody to be coaching.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I love I love Vic, I love Prime, Eddie, George,
Speaker 1: I love them boys. But to play a game all
Speaker 1: my life, all my life and understand what it took
Speaker 1: to get to get to where I did, and then
Speaker 1: retire and then go right back into that.
Speaker 3: You have to have a love impact.
Speaker 1: Fleeing and coaching and patience and understand and understanding that
Speaker 1: no matter the amount of hours you put in, sometimes
Speaker 1: it's just not enough and you don't get the results
Speaker 1: based on the work you put in.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. I couldn't. I can't do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean I can see how
Speaker 2: people were thinking, like, if the man this time, you
Speaker 2: can go coach, and so.
Speaker 3: He was saying it's time for me to go coach
Speaker 3: in the literal sense, I need to go coach.
Speaker 2: I need to get coach. I see big, I see pride,
Speaker 2: I see others doing it. I want to do that also, people,
Speaker 2: you know, look, Tyreech has not had this season that
Speaker 2: he had hoped for. Uh uh to of being out
Speaker 2: had a great had impact on that. He's probably not
Speaker 2: gonna make. He's not gonna make the probole. I don't think, well,
Speaker 2: how close HEAs in two one thousand yards, I mean
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a long time.
Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna have to have go off. I mean,
Speaker 3: does he have six seven hundred? Did he have seven
Speaker 3: hundred yards receiver?
Speaker 2: I think he only had like a one maybe one
Speaker 2: or maybe one or two hundred receiving yard games?
Speaker 1: Did ye?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They no? Five?
Speaker 3: Are you not touchdown?
Speaker 2: So he's gonna need he needs he needs one ninety
Speaker 2: five over the last week game video.
Speaker 1: Yeah he get he get that and then two or
Speaker 1: what four five games?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got that. But but the thing is, oh Joe,
Speaker 3: uh h.
Speaker 2: I mean when you look at pro bowlers, I mean,
Speaker 2: the only two I can think of in the ac
Speaker 2: off the top of my head is chasing Judy.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's the third though, right is a third? Well?
Speaker 3: Do you think four? But I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean when we look at the ALCU,
Speaker 2: we take what's Nico College?
Speaker 3: How many yards the Nico Collins ads? I think he
Speaker 3: missed a game. He had a ham shong.
Speaker 1: I think he missed about three or four.
Speaker 3: If you go ALC, if you go he got a
Speaker 3: forty nine.
Speaker 2: I say so Nico Collins because when he touched down
Speaker 2: to the L six Okay, all of them, all of.
Speaker 1: Them gonna get They're gonna read it, reach a thousand,
Speaker 1: everybody chase.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the propo both, I mean the propo about
Speaker 3: to be a nounced. But next and reach still.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, at some point you based on name alone,
Speaker 1: he might still get that nod.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might might. What about Jay Flowers, how's he doing?
Speaker 3: What's his numbers?
Speaker 1: They they don't throw the balls at or nothing, Baltimore,
Speaker 1: the US.
Speaker 3: Jay Flowers has line sixteen
Speaker 1: The volume