1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: The late fifteen ten touchdown. What's Up? Guys, Welcome into 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: our first offseason edition of twenty twenty three of Charge 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Quickly as always, joined by Matt Money Smith and Money 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to you on this pod since Saturday. 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: UM A lot to cover. We'll get into Brandon Salley's 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: pressor Tom Talasco's pressor. But I'd be remiss if I 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: didn't go back to Saturday and get your thoughts as 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: you watched that game unfold the radio booth. DJ. Well, look, 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's there's a couple of things 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: right one. You know, I think you have to separate 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: the success of the regular season with the in the 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: success of the first half with the failure of the 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: second half. And I think that's probably what you know, 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: the front office was kind of going through when they 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: decided to make some of the changes they're going to 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: make this offseason, you know, for people that are taking 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: shots it coached Staley, I think, you know, and kind 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: of some of the things that we said on the 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: radio show all week long was look, you know, you 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: watched teams fall one by one week after week, unable 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: to handle the pressure of what was a tight race 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: for the back end of these wild cards spots. You 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: know that the Dolphins are losing, They're eight and three 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: and now they're borderline out of the playoffs. The Patriots, 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, fumble a game away. The Jets were seven 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: and three and watched it all slipped from their hands. 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: The Raiders, you know, all of those teams fell apart 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: when the Chargers were able to keep it together and 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: lock up a playoff spot with two games to go. 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: So you give you know, everyone credit for rallying and 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: playing at that level. You also give them credit for 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: having a heck of a defensive game plan to start 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: that playoff game. You know, they knew what Trevor Lawrence 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: liked to do, attack the middle of the field. They 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: knew if you got him off his spot that he'd 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: get a little loose with the football. And you know 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: it's not the Samuel comes up with three interceptions, tranquil 38 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: with one. They got their hands up repeatedly to bat passes, 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: knowing that he wanted to get the ball out quick 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: and the pass rush wasn't going to get home. Like 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, things are great. The one thing I will 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: say is in that first half, the offense still you know, 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: there were there were plays, but there weren't. I was 44 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: still a little worried about the offense. You know, you 45 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: get all those turnovers and you're getting field goals. I mean, 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: you got a goal to go from the six yard 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: line on the muff punt, well not a muff punt, 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: but the punt that bounced off the dude's head, you know, 49 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: and you can only get three points out of that. 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, you can't get the eighteen feet that you 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: need from an offense. And it just felt like that 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: was starting to show up in that first half, like, okay, 53 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: offense isn't really moving the ball. Well, you know, Justin's 54 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: got a couple really nice passes. You know, Austin's got 55 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: a couple runs there early for those touchdowns, But outside 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: of that, you could you could sort of see that 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: the offense wasn't right. You know, just jump in whenever 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: you want. There's a million things to get to here, Chris, I, 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, and perhaps it was irresponsible to me, but 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: you know I said it in the moment. You know, 61 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: I can still remember my call. I just I just 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: almost yelled, what are they doing? You know? When they 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: ran the third and a half yard play and the 64 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: speed sweep to band him. And that's exactly what I 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: said on the call. I said, what are they doing? 66 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: You know you've and I think it goes back to 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: something that we've talked about here, and that's just you know, 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: there's there's two things there, one players versus plays. Sometimes 69 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and play callers get too caught up in 70 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: plays like ooh, I got something here. I'm gonna getting 71 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: flat footed on this speed sweep because I see the 72 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: way they're like, this is the way to do it, 73 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: instead of I've got a six foot six, two hundred 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: and thirty pound quarterback that's nine for nine on sneaks 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: this season in twenty three to twenty four in his career, 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: and all I gotta do is get this first down. 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Don't need a touchdown. It's twenty seven to zero. All 78 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: you need is a first down. And now the Jags 79 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: are probably going into halftime down twenty seven zero. We're 80 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: going to get the bull back there to get the 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: bull back no, and if they did, it was gonna 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: be with maybe eighty seconds laugh deep in their own territory. 83 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: And Trevor Lawrence has already thrown four interceptions and they've 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: turned the ball over five times. You know they're not 85 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: going to take any more chances. They're just like, cheez, 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: let's just freaking get into the half and and sort 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: of just take a breath and see if we can 88 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: make a rally next half. So instead you run that 89 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: stupid play. And and look, there's a reason why you 90 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: run these plays. You know you see something. So I 91 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: get that, and so but again, it's not touchdowns, it's 92 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: first downs. All you need is three feet. And I 93 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: think that was the beginning that I believe, I, in 94 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: my heart of hearts, believe that that play had so 95 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: much to do with that comeback and the ability for 96 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: that team to go into half instead of being down 97 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven zero with four interceptions and five turnovers, to 98 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: being down twenty seven seven and having carved up that 99 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: defense in eighty seconds to get that score one hundred 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: and ten percent. And first off that should have been 101 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: DeAndre Carter instead of Michael Bandy, second off. Poperhead this 102 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: in this article, that play has gone for negative twenty 103 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: one yards. It's never worked. It's never worked, never worked 104 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: with DeAndre, so it certainly didn't work with Bandy or 105 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: calling it. And you know, you're right. If they do 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: get the ball back, maybe they get a field goal, 107 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's twenty seven to three instead of twenty seven 108 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: to seven. But that was the beginning of the end, 109 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: and it really took a perfect storm of things happening 110 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: for the Jacks winning this game. It took every second. 111 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: We could point to a number of plays in the 112 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: second half. But you're right, Bunny, that third and one, 113 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: If you convert that, we're probably talking about going to 114 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: Kansas City right now instead of talking about, oh my gosh, 115 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: the fifth biggest blown league in NFL history. Yeah, I 116 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: think so. I don't know for sure, because again, the 117 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: offense was just hot, knife through butter in that second half, 118 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: and a big part of that was the inability of 119 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: the offense to get anything going in the second half. Now, 120 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: the one thing I will say, the football couldn't run 121 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: the football. When you're up twenty seven zero, you have 122 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: to sustain drives and they couldn't. I think they had 123 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: two three and outs. I think they had two series 124 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: with one first down, and then they had the two 125 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: field goal drives, one that they converted, one that they missed. 126 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: And for people that are taking shots at Dicker for 127 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: missing the forty yard or I would just say this 128 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: and look, everybody knows how much I like Dicker and 129 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: how much I believe in him as a kicker, and 130 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: I think he very well could end up in the 131 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: Chargers moving forward. Well, my thing is they would have 132 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: scored the touchdown. You know, they wouldn't remember they had 133 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: a minute left. They just they just sat on the 134 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: ball and just ran the clock out. You know, they 135 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: were at the fifteen. They are not being stopped. The 136 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: defense was not stopping this offense the entire second half. 137 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: So even if they kicked the field goal on they're 138 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: up four, in my heart of hearts, I believe they 139 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: scored the touchdown and win the game that way. So 140 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: that's that negates that talking point, like man special teams 141 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: in the most critical moments when you needed to have 142 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: that field goal. Now what it helped, sure gives you, like, hey, 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: you got another scoring drive. But a team that scored 144 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven points in the first half ought to be 145 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: able to get a touchdown on the second half. It 146 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: ought to be abilal To and he hit a fifty 147 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: yard or in exactly, of course, you got to make 148 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: a forty yard kick. I get that, but you know, 149 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: I give him the benefit of doubt because he's won 150 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: so many games with this team back half of the 151 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: year and has been really lights out. I look at 152 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: more of a and this is the reason that I 153 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: think we're talking about a new offensive coordinator is the 154 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: inability to run the football in the second half of 155 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: this game. Because if you don't sustain drives when you're 156 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: up twenty seven to nothing, you could lose. You're you're 157 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: playing with fire. And know, yeah, go ahead, I'll say this, Chris. 158 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: I think I think there's something important though, is for 159 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: people they're like, oh, we gotta run the football, gotta 160 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: run the football. Well, it's not like it's this is 161 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: where the OC comes the play caller comes in. Look 162 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: that the Jags were selling out to stop the run 163 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: on first down the entire game. I mean selling out. 164 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: There are six seven guys in the box and there's 165 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: cushion on the outsides. You know, there's seven eight yards 166 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: a cushion on those outside receivers. So what you know 167 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: the coaches are sitting two booths away from where where 168 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: we are sitting. The play caller is they have the 169 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: same angle we do. They're not on the sideline they see, 170 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, the all twenty two angle where they can 171 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: see how all how the chessboard is laid out, And 172 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: we just could not figure out why, why are the 173 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: calls coming in that are these designed runs that we 174 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: can see where they're going. They're going into these heavy 175 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: fronts and they're not getting anywhere. And on top of that, 176 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: they were running them left. Foster Sarella is out there 177 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: after Jamari Sawyer got injured. Yeah, run them right, run 178 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: them to Trey and Zion like a if you're gonna 179 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: do it, why is it going that way? There were 180 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: just so many confounding play calls in that second half. 181 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: And you can run the ball better on second and 182 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: four when you've picked up six on first down because 183 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: you're just chucking it out to Keenan or to Josh 184 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: where they're or to Gerald Everett because they're getting five 185 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: six yards of cushion. So I think that was another 186 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: big issue just in discussing, well they couldn't run the 187 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: ball effectively. A lot of that was the plays that 188 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: they called to run. Yeah, Bill Bardwell had a piece 189 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: talking about the play clock. I'd love to get your 190 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: thoughts on that. You know, when you have a big 191 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: lead and you're snapping the ball with seven seconds, ten seconds, 192 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: twelve seconds, seven seconds, eight seconds left on the play clock. 193 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, every second valuable in at second half. 194 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: And I just I wonder if there is a reason 195 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: behind that, or if if that's even a discussion to say, Okay, 196 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: you know what, let's let's milk the clock as much 197 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: as we can in the second half because we have 198 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: such a big league. That was something that I didn't 199 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: quite understand as well, especially the way Barwell laid it out. 200 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, wow, there's a lot of time on 201 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: the clock before they snapped. Yeah, So I think for me, 202 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: there's look, I think you do that the entire second half, 203 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: and it sends a terrible message to your team. It's 204 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: we can't score points, defense can't hold so this is 205 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: our way to win. So that you can't do it 206 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: the entire second half, that's something to discuss on, like 207 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: a final drive. Right. The other part of that is 208 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: when you milk it all the way down, well, now 209 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: the defense can time up there get off. And they 210 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: were getting into that backfield in a hurry. They were 211 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: batting a lot of balls, they were getting all the 212 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: push they had the advantage. So that's why you want 213 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: to do it with the sevens and the nines and 214 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: the fives as opposed to the ones and the twos 215 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: or the zero was every time, because that way, the 216 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: defense is just firing. So I think that's just to 217 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: address that. Yeah, you can't do that from the start 218 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: because man, it just sends a bad message to your team. 219 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: I mean that you already said it, Chris. The truth 220 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: is they had to run the four minutes drill and 221 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: they couldn't do it. You know, the offense just simply 222 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: could not do it. You know, I think I think 223 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of I think there were a lot 224 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: of issues. You know, it wasn't just not being able 225 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: to run the ball. I don't think Justin had one 226 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: of his better games. You know, you asked me, you know, 227 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: the week of the game, what do you expect from Justin? 228 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: I said, greatness. I think we got goodness. I don't 229 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: think we got greatness from Justin. He had something weird 230 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: going on in that game. And I think that's a 231 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: big reason why you're seeing a change at the quarterback 232 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: coach position too, because a lot of people were like, wow, 233 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: Shane and Herbert really close. That's surprising, but I think 234 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: we saw it too often this year. Just a weird 235 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: breakdown in mechanics from Herbert and games for someone who's 236 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: as tall as he is to have so many passes 237 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: bad at at the line of scrimmage than to have 238 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: so many balls thrown that, you know, appear to be 239 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: thrown by someone who's more six foot than six six. 240 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: There's you know, a few that I can think of 241 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: in that game. Obviously there's the four passes that were batted, 242 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: but the one that that bounced off the helmet of 243 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: the defender, that would have been a sure walk in 244 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: touchdown for Keenan. When there was no pressure in his face. 245 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: It's like, why are you dropping your arm? Angle there? 246 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: And now look he had the sweet side arm throw 247 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: at the start of that game. I think it was. 248 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 1: It was beautiful. But when there's no pressure in the 249 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: pocket and you've got guys that are six foot three 250 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: and six foot four that are putting their hands up, 251 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: get that arm up there, you know, just and that 252 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: could have just been a soft toss to Keenan for 253 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: the touchdown. You didn't need to fire that thing in there. 254 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: So that was and that happened repeatedly throughout the game. 255 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: You know, the airmail throw to Keenan who was wide 256 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: open in the end zone. That's a four point you know, 257 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: that's eight points right there. Those two throws bounce off 258 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: the helmet, airmail Keenan on a beautifully designed play by 259 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi, the offensive coordinator, that got fired. That's a 260 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: perfectly designed play that should go for a touchdown. And 261 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: it was just weird. You know, Herbert just kind of 262 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: airmailed that thing by ten feet over his head, which 263 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: we're not used to see in so I think screen 264 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: to Austin too. It's exactly. There was no air under it. 265 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: It was really strange, and there wasn't you know. Yeah, 266 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: there's pressure, but it's set up to give pressure. You know, 267 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: the offensive line is releasing the defenders and you just 268 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of drop that thing right over their head into 269 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: his arms and instead of punting on fourth and there's 270 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, speaking of plays, you know, and here I 271 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: just I hate doing it. I'm not trying to second 272 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: guess every play. We're not in the heat of the 273 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: moment when they're trying to figure out what to do. 274 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: But like that's that's another one. I know things aren't 275 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: going right, but your defense has not stopped this team. 276 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: So first of all, you complete that pass and you 277 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: set up for a field goal, and you kick the 278 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: field goal, you know, because Eckler was going to get 279 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: at least you know, I think it was a third 280 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: and fourteen or something like that. He was going to 281 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: get at least eight ten yards. You know. It might 282 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: not have got the first down, but he would have 283 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: squarely been in dicker range. You know, it'd been a 284 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: less than a fifty yard field goals. So now you 285 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: get a field goal out of that drive. But fourth 286 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: and three from the forty three, Come on, man, we 287 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: know what Brandon Staley is all about. You know what 288 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: this team's all about, you know, and just go for it. 289 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: You know your net you know they end up net 290 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: in thirty two yards on that and you do that 291 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: when your defense is locking a team down, and as 292 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: they did in the first half. If that's the first half, 293 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: absolutely don't let these guys get up off the mat. 294 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Punt that thing, get them deep and see if you 295 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: enforce another turnover, you know, because the defense is playing 296 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: that well. But at that point in the game, with 297 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: the issues that they had shown. It's like I just assume, 298 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: go for it, you know, and risk the thirty two 299 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: net yards, you know, as opposed to and get another 300 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: crack at it as opposed to you know. Anyway, Yeah, 301 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: you know again, So actually that was two different plays. 302 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: So it was two different plays. It was the screen 303 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: that they had to I think something anyway, Well, you know, oney, 304 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: we're six days removing, I know exactly, it's still it's 305 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: still I think worth kind of going through a man, 306 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: how did this? How did this happen? You know? And listen, Joey, 307 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: I think had very good reason to be frustrated throughout 308 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: that game with some of the calls that we're going 309 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: against him. But when that unsportsmanlike conduct penalty went from 310 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: extra point to two point conversion, that's where I thought 311 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: everything kind of came into place for Jackson. I was like, Okay, yeah, 312 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna win this game with the field goal now, 313 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that that was kind of 314 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: one of those plays in the second half. And again, 315 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: you could point to the Dicker miss field goal, you 316 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: could point to that specific penalty, you could point to 317 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: the Zay Jones breakdown for a touchdown. There was a 318 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: number of plays, but that one I think is kind 319 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: of memorable, um maybe for the wrong reasons in the 320 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: second half, because it did give Jackson Build the opportunity 321 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: to say, hey, now we can win this game with 322 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: three Yeah, and I do have to walk my thing 323 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: back again. It's all getting confused here. So yeah, they 324 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: punted and it's a four ten. So that's tough, you know, 325 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: And it was the first possession of the second quarter. 326 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: So that just goes back to what I was talking 327 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: what we were talking about. How does Justin miss Austin there. 328 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: It's just it was weird, you know, where some of 329 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: his passes were off, So scratch that. My apologies. It 330 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: was a fourth and ten. I was thinking it was 331 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: a fourth and three, but not so you said it though, 332 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: you know there's you know, so it's they open up, 333 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: they drive the football, you know, seven plays thirty seven 334 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: yards to the thirty eight and again you complete that 335 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: screen and now you negate the end of the first 336 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: half touchdown by three points by kicking the field goal. 337 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: Even if you don't get the first down and you're 338 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: up thirty to seven, you feel pretty good, like, hey, 339 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: we came out of the half. We got some points back. 340 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: The fact that you punt that, you know, because of 341 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: that missed completion then sets the tone. They end up 342 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: driving eighty nine yards to make it twenty seven fourteen. 343 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: It's now a two score game. Two scores wins you 344 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: the game, you know, with the entire third quarter practically, 345 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: well the entire fourth quarter in about a third of 346 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: the third quarter left, and that's you know when it 347 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: just kind of got a little sideways on them. Yeah, 348 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: so you know, let's let's just kind of shift forward now. Yeah, 349 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: it's not a fun way. It's it's a horror movie. 350 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: In the second half to watch. They they found a 351 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: number of things that were working, you know, there was 352 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: a little more and like to Barnwell's point about using 353 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: the clock, the chargers were certainly they adjusted, they were 354 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: less aggressive, they were offering cushion, and Trevor Lawrence was 355 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: deft at carving it up. I thought Kenneth Murray found 356 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: himself in a lot of tough situations. They really picked 357 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: on them and and I think they they had kind 358 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: of found a spot on the field and that was 359 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: something that was interesting that they maybe didn't go to 360 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more dime because of the way they 361 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: were attacking, but I think a lot of that was okay, 362 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: let's just do this. Forced them to have long touchdown drives, 363 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: make sound tackles, and there were players that missed tackles, 364 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: that missed assignments that didn't execute. You know, Assante bid 365 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: on that double move the end zone that allowed a 366 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: touch down. You had a miscommunication by the safeties on 367 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: the Zay Jones touchdown. There were assignments missed. It wasn't 368 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: all just you know, scheme and philosophy. There were a 369 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: lot You said it perfectly, it was a perfect storm. 370 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: There were a lot of things that went wrong in 371 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: that second half to be able to say, hey, this 372 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: is why it was the Dicker miss It was the 373 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: inability to run the ball. It was Kenneth Murray not 374 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: being able to diagnose and figure out who he was covering. 375 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: It was the lack of safety communication. It was Asante 376 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: Samue will not perform it. All of those things, you know, 377 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: is Joey Bose's two unsportsmanlike penalties. And yes, I understand 378 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: Joey's frustration, but you cannot do that. There's just you can't. 379 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: That's thirty yards of penalties, and while fifteen yards of 380 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: penalties and one that ended up going from a potential 381 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: tie to a potential win in the game. It's as 382 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: frustrated as you are. And Sean Smith did not behave well. 383 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: He had not acquit himself. Well. That is a bad 384 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: look for the referee. The way he engaged joe who 385 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: was upset with the false start and then the hold 386 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: and neither of those being flagged, and then the neutral 387 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: zone throw is just like, wow, that's if you're if 388 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: you're three feet over the line, I got you, but 389 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: holy cow, that's a rough one. Um. At the same time, 390 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: it's on Joey to make sure do not give them 391 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: any reason to throw a flag. So all right with that? 392 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: It was you know what, you know what, it was 393 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: a devastated locker room. I've never seen a locker room 394 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: like that. It was you could understandable here at Pindrop. 395 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: You saw Derwin's emotions after the game. You saw a 396 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: lot of guys who are gracious to speak after every game, 397 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: they didn't want even want to speak. And I couldn't 398 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: blame them a bit totally. It was totally good one 399 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: of those nights and money I look at that at 400 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: halftime and I'm thinking, this is a this is a 401 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: championship caliber defense, This was a super Bowl caliber quarterback. 402 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: The offense didn't have to go u sustain long drives 403 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: in the first half because of what the defense did, 404 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: and then it was just the perfect tail the two has. 405 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: And I think it was an example of maybe how 406 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: close the Chargers are to becoming Super Bowl contenders and 407 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: also how far they have to come to kind of 408 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: clean up some of these things. Be in those moments 409 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: and know that you know you can win a playoff 410 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: game and go on a run and beat some of 411 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: the best teams in football, And that kind of leads 412 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: us to Brandon Staley's press conference, and that was the 413 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: lead this week. The Chargers part of ways with I 414 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: think three coaches so far, including offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi 415 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach Shane Day. Coach Staley said he believes it 416 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: was an extra gear that this offense can go tom 417 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: he wants to really emphasize the marriage of the past 418 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: and the run. I guess we could start with that 419 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: was really the lead of Coach Staley's press or your 420 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: thoughts on what they have to do with that position 421 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: now that Joe Lobardi's out. Well, I think you know, 422 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: reality is and they won't say this, you know, they 423 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: won't acknowledge it, but I think we know it to 424 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: be true. You know, I had to hire Kevin O'Connell. Rams, 425 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, denied that request, that was his first choice, 426 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: tried to hire Mike McDaniel forty nine ers, denied that request, 427 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: and then he hired Joe Lombardi. So those first two 428 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: hires tell you he wants to someone from the Kyle 429 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: Shanahan you know, Mike Shanahan, which is also the Alex 430 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: Gibbs school of offense, you know, wide zone and that 431 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: particular style of play. Joe did not, you know, Coach 432 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: Lombardi did not run that style. It's it's a lot 433 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: of quick hitters, a lot of spread it out pat 434 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: giant playbook, and you know, I get it, it works, 435 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: But I think it's also important to remember, you know, 436 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: there's a number of coordinators that were fired, you know 437 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: that that run that system. There's head coaches that were 438 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: fired that run that system. So you got to be 439 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: able to marry the system with the play caller and 440 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: a leader and someone that you know the difference between 441 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and everybody else's they call 442 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: the right plays. You know, it's it's not just the 443 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: philosophy and the system, but man, can they dial it 444 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: up at the same time. So I say that right 445 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: number one, that this is it's a system has been 446 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: around forever. The Broncos one two super Bowls using it. Yeah, 447 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's I mean, you know, sadly 448 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: we lost Alice Gibbs last year, the guy that kind 449 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: of pioneered on that offensive line and just stretching it out, 450 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: stretching it out until you find that lane where you 451 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: can cut back and go. And you know, and and 452 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: and Mike. You know, Kyle's dad made that famous and 453 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: then Kyle took it to the next level and he's Look, 454 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: there's no denying he is the best offensive play caller 455 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's not even close. You know, the 456 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: way he calls offense. I mean, the fact that he's 457 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: done it at the quarterbacks, that he's done it with, 458 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: you know, an MVP campaign for Matt Ryan. If Christian 459 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: McCaffrey had a full season in San Francisco, he might 460 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: be the first running back MVP we've had in a 461 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: long time, you know, like and that's what you see. 462 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: So like this is why I think that's where they're 463 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: gonna look and they're gonna try there, darned is to 464 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: find someone from that school is you can see what 465 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: it does and how it looks when you have someone 466 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: like Raheem Mostert or Jeff Wilson or Elijah you know, 467 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: like when you have those players, you can get it done. 468 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: But then when you plug a Christian McCaffrey in there, 469 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: and you see when you when you put a freaking 470 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: turbo on that engine and you see what it looks like. 471 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what Brandon Staley's thinking, like, hey, we 472 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: have a Christian McCaffrey. We've got Austin Eckler, so you know, 473 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: and we've got an offensive line, We've got Cordyl instantly, 474 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 1: we've got Rashaun Slater, and now that Trey Pipkins has 475 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: established himself and we believe that Zion's going to take 476 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: that next jump. And now we've got Jamari Sawyer. Maybe 477 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: he kicks inside. I don't know what Filer's contract is, 478 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: but he has a year or if he's up or 479 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: how that worked, but anyway, Awyer has earned himself some 480 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: playing time somewhere, I think. So I think I think 481 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: that's what you I think that's what they see. Like 482 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: we've we've got that engine. You know, we've got Austin Eckler, 483 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: and you know there are look that you know, we 484 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: know that running backs have been devalue. There's some good 485 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: running backs in this draft. So I think if they 486 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: can that's kind of what I what I see. You know, 487 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: and we know how important physical receivers are, you know, 488 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: in that in that offense, and you see what happens 489 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: when you get a really good receiver and how it 490 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: can look in debo and you know, and we know 491 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: how versatile Keenan and Mike car So now you know, 492 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: and you look, Cooper Cups are really really really good receiver. 493 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: You know. But look what Justin Jefferson did this year. 494 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: When Kevin O'Connell showed up in Minnesota. I mean, you're 495 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: talking about someone that's probably gonna finish second in the 496 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: MVP race or third in the MVP race. So I 497 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: think that's I think that's what they see, and that's 498 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: why you're probably going to find someone from that school. 499 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: The only other thing I could see and would make 500 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me. Chris as Frank Reich, 501 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: I think having you know, instead of having someone who's 502 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: calling plays for the first time or is very young 503 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: and just kind of coming up through that system, to 504 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: have someone with that kind of experience to just take 505 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: control of the offense, to take control of justin Herbert, 506 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, to kind of really get his hands in. 507 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: It's someone who played the position, you know, someone that's 508 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: called a balanced offense in Philadelphia when he was there 509 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: with Doug Peterson and those running backs in Indianapolis when 510 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: he had a Bell Kyle like Jonathan Taylor like I 511 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to get a head coaching gig, 512 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: he should. He's a really good coach, and I think 513 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: that that would be a coup to me if you 514 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: can get frank Reich to be an OC if he's 515 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: not going to get a head coaching gig like that, 516 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: that would actually be my number one if they could 517 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: pull that together. He's an outstanding coach. I think he 518 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: interviewed for the Cardinals job if I'm not mistake him 519 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: that there were reports out there, But if we use 520 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: the San Francisco example, money the one thing that Kyle 521 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: has been able to do is and we talked about 522 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: this all offseason. It's not just Austin Eckler. There needs 523 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: to be other running backs on this team that can 524 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: effectively run the football. And you know the Niners they 525 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: had Elijah Mitchell, Jeff Wilson before he got traded, Christian McCaffrey, 526 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. The list goes on and on of guys 527 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: that have been able to effectively run the football in 528 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan system in San Francisco. And you know, 529 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: we thought Isaiah Spiller was gonna be that guy. Frankly, 530 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: he didn't get many snaps. Sonny Michelle didn't work out. 531 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: Joshua Kelly was hurt, but in his limited touches, I 532 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: thought he did he did a decent job. But there 533 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: needs to be that one two punch with Eckler, and 534 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: it has to be I think in a lead bell 535 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: cow like. I don't think Austin Eckler's a bell cow. 536 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: I think he's an offensive weapon that you put in 537 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: all over the field and they have to have a 538 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: guy that can. You know, it's almost like what what 539 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have with Zeke and Pollard, right, You need 540 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: to have a hammer in Zeke on first and second 541 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: down and then you unleash Pollar all over the field 542 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: like that. That's what they're missing. I think offensively, I'm 543 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: not worried about the wide receivers. I do think in 544 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: the speed. I think you need to have a speed 545 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: receiver to compliment he and Mike and Josh Homer and 546 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: maybe get a couple of them. Like, I think you 547 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: can never have enough speed at the wide receiver position. 548 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: Figure that out. But I'm not worried about justin getting 549 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: the ball down the field per se. It's more that 550 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: running game and honoring the run, and not just with Austin. 551 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: Like like, I don't know who the running backs are. 552 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten there. Maybe maybe we asked DJ next 553 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: week who the top three or four running backs are 554 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: in this draft. But like I maybe stag one of 555 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: those guys and just say, okay, this is how we're 556 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna run the football now. Yeah, I'll say, you know what, 557 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: I'll actually disagree with you on that one, Chris. I 558 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's more plays. You know, I 559 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: know I said players, not plays. I just think they 560 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: have the player. I do think Austin can be that hammer. 561 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: I think he could totally sustain a drive. We know 562 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: he never goes down on first contact. I think the 563 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: big concern with Austin is regular season, right, you don't 564 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: want him taking those shots. But like in that Jacksonville game, 565 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: you know, I completely think Austin can be that guy 566 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: on that drive, like, hey, let's feed Eckler. We know 567 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: he never goes down on first contact. I know what 568 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: you're saying, like you want that hammer, that big back 569 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: that can get you the push. But to me, that's 570 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: O line. Like, that's more the O line was getting 571 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: shoved back off the snap on those designed runs and 572 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: so and plus you know so much of that's Rashaan Slater, right. 573 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: We remember how it looked when they ran to the 574 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: left last year with Filer and Slater and Lindsley. They 575 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: were getting five yards on those rushes. So to me, 576 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: it's more you know O line play call, and I 577 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: think you know, look, you and I have both been 578 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: big Joshua Kelly fans, you know, and the step that 579 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: he took this year and becoming a much more physical back. 580 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: Now he's a different back. He's not someone that you want, 581 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, stretching things out and bouncing into the outside. 582 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: He is a one gap and go, hey, you're running 583 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: the a gap, here's the ball, go get it. And 584 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: I think he's been he's shown that he can be 585 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: effective at that. I believe in Isaiah Spiller. You know, 586 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: he just didn't get any snaps. I mean, he was 587 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: an exceptional runner. He's a big guy, you know, at 588 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 1: A and m um, so I believe he can do 589 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: it for me. I think I think it's it's design, 590 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: it's play call, it's figuring out, you know that that line. 591 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: You know, Rashawn's healthy. Is it filer to saw your 592 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: kick inside? You know? We know once the one thing 593 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: we figured out about Sawyer this year is once he 594 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: gets his hands on you, it's over. Like he is 595 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: strong as a freaking ox. All he's got to do 596 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: is get his hands on you and you're not going anywhere. 597 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: And that to me bodes pretty darn well for kicking 598 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: him inside of of of Rashaan. And and now you've 599 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: got you know, some pretty big bodies, you know, in 600 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: Zion and Sawyer and Trey, who I think really, you know, 601 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be the big question on the line. 602 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: You know what I have money. The only thing I'm 603 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: thinking though, is it we didn't get enough. We don't know, 604 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: like Joshua didn't touch the ball enough, right, Isaiah didn't 605 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: play like Isaiah should have played in Week eighteen. In 606 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: my opinion, I would have given him fifteen carries. We 607 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: out with him like we never saw him, so, like, 608 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: how can we have an evers of who he is? 609 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? He could be, He could 610 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: be awesome, like we thought he was gonna be, but 611 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: we didn't get to see him, right, And I think 612 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: that's why. So I think you can play that both ways, right, 613 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Like you can play it as Look, we know, you know, 614 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: we believe in this guy in the first round, you know, 615 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go snatch him up and put him 616 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: back there. Or you say, look, let's go back and 617 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: watch the film again of isaiaht A and m and 618 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: just see what you know, why did we draft him 619 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: and why did he you know, why were so many 620 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: people excited about that pick? So I think that, you know, 621 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: I think just going back to the old line too, 622 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a question of are they gonna pay 623 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: Trey or are they just gonna move Jamari over there? 624 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, because you keep this guy on the roster, 625 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's a tough one for Tom Right 626 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: It's like we saw the potentially had we drafted him 627 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: out of Sioux Falls State, you know, knowing that it 628 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: was going to take a couple of years, and in 629 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: a couple of years we've developed him into a really 630 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: good right tackle. Trey played really well this year and 631 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: through injury, through injury, so you know he's tough. Eilread, 632 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: he played really well, and so it's it is hard 633 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: to find offensive lineman you want to you want me 634 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: to overpay for one position group that's number one on 635 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: my list, well, number two quarterback. When you have a quarterback, 636 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna pay. But it's right there because nobody 637 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: has two tackles, Like, nobody in the league has two tackles. 638 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: So the fact that you could have two and a 639 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: swing on a sixth round rookie deal, I mean that's 640 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: on a you know, like that's that's where you can 641 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: really do some damage. Now you know upfront knowing that 642 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: you have that advantage over other teams. So it'll be interesting. 643 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: But I think I just did not like the designed 644 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: runs this year. Chris, like for me, that was the 645 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: big deal. I did not like the play calling when 646 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: it came to which direction they were and they did, 647 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, and and they did it last year too. 648 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: How many times were we coming out of games going 649 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: why are they running the ball right? You know? Why 650 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: are you running to the rights either the line when 651 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: when you run behind Slater and Filer you're getting all 652 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: these yards. It was just very curious, and I think 653 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: a lot of that went into the reason why there 654 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: is going to be a change. And look when remember now, 655 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: when there's a change at OC, you're probably gonna have 656 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: a change in blocking schemes, and that's something you're gonna 657 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: have to figure out, you know, So that that may 658 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: be where they end up having to invest draft capital 659 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: as Hey, we need a little bit more nimble, you know, 660 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: offensive linemen because we're gonna be running you know, this 661 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: wide zone and we're gonna have to have these guys 662 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: can really get after it and move. So depending on 663 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: who they hire on that side of the ball, you know, 664 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: is kind of what what they're gonna have to figure out. 665 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: I Mean. The good thing is there's so much wide 666 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: receiver talent in college now, so much wide receiver talent 667 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: that you can find. Look at Jennings in San Francisco, 668 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: what was he a sixth round pick? I mean, he 669 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: is lighting it up, you know, and I think that's 670 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: something that can, Like you said, I would I would 671 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: love to see them invest, you know, in some some 672 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: speed receiver out there as well to try to get 673 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: this thing back to what we were seeing when you know, 674 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: Justin was a rookie and even though t Billy's you know, 675 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: barely playing at all. Jay, you know, Guidon was essentially 676 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, an undrafted free agent signing. You saw what 677 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: it could look like when you get guys that got 678 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: four three speed out there and get down the field 679 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: Herbert can get it to him. Yeah, that was like, 680 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, Guyden got hurt at the end of that 681 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: Week three game, and there was so much that happened 682 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: in that game against Jacksonville that it was almost kind 683 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: of like a secondary thought, and it ended up being 684 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: a huge deal for this offense because you can't really 685 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: respect a deep threat when you don't have one, you 686 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: know other than Mike, you know, and then Mike and 687 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: Keenan not on the field at the same time. The 688 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: offensive line, though, you know, for as much incoming as 689 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi took this year. I just want to say 690 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: this justin Herbert was the all time Chargers single season 691 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: passing leader. Last year, they had some good moments offensively, 692 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: and there was no response later this year at Left Town. Well, 693 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: I can't, I think emphasize enough what a big deal 694 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: that was for this team. Now, I think whoever comes in, 695 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 1: you're gonna have Slater back one hundred percent. You're gonna 696 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: have an all Pro center, and Corey Linsley. You're gonna 697 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: have a guy in Zion that I thought had had 698 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: a decent rookie year and is all going to get better. 699 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: And then you mentioned Pipkins and saw your Tom said 700 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: that he was so proud of the way Pipkins played 701 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: this year, playing through Payne, and then he said, Sawyer 702 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: saved them, you know. And Filer, I think, you know, 703 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: we'll probably know more with his cap number and what 704 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: they plan to do with him. But they have guys 705 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: in place, and like you said, if you if you 706 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: change the offensive line scheme, you can find guys in 707 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: the second third round in this draft that could come 708 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: in and make an immediate impact and give you more 709 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: depth across the offensive line, especially if you marry, if 710 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: you if you marry a run scheme that works, and 711 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: you have the running backs in addition to Austin that work, 712 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: and hopefully that is Kelly and Spiller, Um, you could 713 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: be in good shape. You just you have to have 714 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: an offense that the defense is game planning. They're not 715 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: just looking at number ten, they're looking at Okay, we 716 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: have to stop this run game two. In addition to 717 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's all, yeah, I think you know, I think 718 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: the one thing we're doing too though, Chris is and look, 719 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: it's a product of you know, who was let go 720 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: and the fact that they're they're hiring new coaches, and 721 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: you know it's Justin Herbert. You know, we also have 722 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: to remember they got to fix some things on the defense, 723 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, Oh yeah, we'll get to defense. Yeah. So 724 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: I think I think it's you only have so much 725 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: draft capital, you only have so many free agent dollars. 726 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: You know, you got your own free agents. Justin I'm guessing, 727 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: is probably gonna get his deal this offseason. It seems 728 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: like elite quarterbacks, you know, you don't have to wait 729 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: till the fourth year. You get it after year three. 730 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: So you can use that fourth year to help lower 731 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: the cap number on the overall length of the deal. 732 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: There's a reason why they do. Once you know you 733 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: have the guy, it benefits you to do the deal 734 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: earlier so you can lower the cap number with that 735 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: fourth year salary on the rookie contract. It helps incredibly. 736 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: So that's so you're going to have that deal this 737 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: offseason that's going to impact the cap and shoot it 738 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: up a little bit um as well. So yeah, I 739 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: think we I think and look, I'll say, just to 740 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: kind of wrap the offense for me, I'll say this, 741 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: I think, Um, I think the quarterback coach is as important. 742 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: Well it's not as important, but it's pretty close. I 743 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: think you got to get someone in there that's going 744 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: to challenge Justin, that's going to really you know, I 745 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: can't speak specifically to it, but just kind of seeing 746 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: the way they interacted, man, he and ian Shane Day 747 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: were very chummy. They were very friendly, and I would 748 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: love to see someone for all the talent that Justin has, 749 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: you know, and that and that body of his I 750 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: would love to see someone really get in there and 751 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: make sure that he is able to maximize he has 752 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: the ability he has the brain to potentially be the 753 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: greatest that has ever played this game. He has got everything. 754 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: It is all there, and I would love to see 755 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: someone in those roles, two people in those roles quarterback, coach, 756 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that are able to unlock that. We see 757 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: what our old friend Shane Stiken has been able to 758 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: do with with you know, Jalen Hurts and how that's going, 759 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, and what he was able to do adjust 760 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: him when he was here in Justin's rookie year. So 761 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: you know, it's so important to get that role right 762 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: and and you know, I'm sure that Tom and Brandon 763 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: are going to be able to do that, because who 764 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: the heck would not want this job. You want to 765 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: talk about a plum gig to get yourself a head 766 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: coaching job. So many of these offensive coordinators are being 767 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: hired to be head coaches, and you know that's I 768 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: would imagine guys are going to be lining up to 769 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: take this gig. Let's go defensively, Uh, that first half 770 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: was awesome, you know, aside to Samuel Junior was incredible. 771 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: Three interceptions and a half. The way that they played 772 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: down the stretch minus Week eighteen was probably the reason 773 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: why they were playing in January and jauh same time, 774 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: run defense was still an issue. Um, I think there 775 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: is some depth as some certain positions where it was 776 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: tested this year, they were able to get get over 777 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: the hump, um, but they have to be a more 778 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: consistent team. They talked about perimeter defense, They talked about 779 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: run defense in the pressor both in Tom's and uh 780 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: in Staley's pressor what do you see with the defense 781 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: and what needs to change here in twenty twenty three? Money, Well, 782 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: I think the snap count for NAS tells you that 783 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: that probably is going to change. You know, I think 784 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: that they were repeatedly concerned about his tackling. Um. You know, 785 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: we knew he was a playmaker coming out of Delaware 786 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: and it just never quite came to fruition. And then 787 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: when you factor in some of the issues with the run, 788 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: you know, with the run defense with NAS, I think 789 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: that's probably something they'll be looking at. I thought, allow, 790 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: he played great and you know when when called up, 791 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: really yeah, I think he's a valuable piece. Um. You know, 792 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: Mikey thankfully is under contract still, so you know he'll 793 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: be back. You'll end up getting jac Jackson back, and 794 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: I think what will be interesting is right, Michael Davis 795 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: was the odd man out, you know, so, and I 796 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: think a big part of that is and you know, 797 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: I know this is gonna sound crazy, but I think 798 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, Asante is great at what he does and 799 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: you saw that three interceptions, but there are some tackling issues. 800 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's what coach was talking about, perimeter 801 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: defense and tackling. And you know, you think about that 802 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: fourth and one play that can end the game, and 803 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: you think about last year in Week eighteen, you tackle 804 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs and that can end the game. They're not 805 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: going to attempt a fifty four yard field goal, you 806 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: know what, the Chargers, having fifty seconds on the clock 807 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: and a time out, they're just going to take a 808 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: knee and both teams are going to the playoffs instead. 809 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: You know, Josh takes Asante for a twelve yard ride, 810 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 1: you know. And this one on a fourth and one, 811 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: it seemed as though, just by the way it was 812 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: lined up, it looked like they thought that could be 813 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: a possibility because they had a Sante kicked wide of 814 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: that box as the guy that was supposed to be 815 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: there as as you know, setting that edge and making sure, 816 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: and he wasn't able to do it. You know, he 817 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: broke in for whatever reason on the snap even though 818 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: there's no way he's going to be able to do 819 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: anything on a quarterback sneak, Like there's nothing you can do. 820 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: You've got to you've got to set that edge. So 821 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: I think that's what he was alluding to. Um So, 822 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be interesting. The defensive backgroup. 823 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: You know, we know they have the best safety in 824 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: the league in Derwin James. We know how great Michael 825 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: Davis played this year. He's under contract for another year. 826 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: We know they believe in j. C. Jackson he'll be back. Helpful. 827 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: When when will he be back? Though, I think that's 828 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: the big thing, right, fair question, Yeah, fair question, you know. 829 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: And so I think that's I think kind of that's 830 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: and look, we already saw it, right We saw, you know, 831 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: where Jessier Taylor was playing snaps instead of you know, 832 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: instead of Asante in certain games, you know, and I 833 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: think that sends that signal of yeah, he's a really 834 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: good player, you know, in certain situations, but in others. 835 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: We have some concerns. I think they got to figure 836 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: out what they're doing with Kenneth. I thought he played 837 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: better this year obviously than he had the previous two seasons. However, 838 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: that second half of the Jags game, and there's some 839 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: other games out there that I that leave me with 840 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: some serious concerns. And I think that's a big reason 841 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: why Michael Wilhoyt was released, was let go as linebackers coach, 842 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: and they're looking for a new one. I think they're 843 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: trying to figure that out as well. You know, so 844 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: I Trank will you know, he's a free agent, and 845 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 1: he's really good. He's a really really good player. I hope, 846 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: I really hope we see him back money. Sorry, in 847 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: a rough you hear, you hear so much about how 848 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: maybe linebackers aren't as valuable in this system. But you 849 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: look at what Kaiser did last year and what he's 850 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: doing in Philadelphia right now. You look at Drew did 851 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: take it over the play calling, really becoming a leader 852 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: and having his best year by far in twenty twenty two, 853 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: really establishing himself. Do you think that Drew should be 854 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: a priority in terms of free agents that they need 855 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: to keep. Defensively, I think I think in some cases 856 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: linebackers stats can be misleading I think there are certain 857 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: linebackers out there that you'll see lead the league in tackles, 858 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: um pile up huge tackle statistics, and you just kind 859 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: of know, like, yeah, I mean that they're they're funneling 860 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: the way the defense is designed. As they're funneling, you know, 861 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: players to him, and he all you know, he's there 862 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: to make that stop and look, they have to make 863 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 1: the stop. I'm not trying to take too much away, 864 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: but I think when those guys and look, I think 865 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: Kaizier to some degree, was one of those guys you 866 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: know where you pile up a lot of tackle stats. 867 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: That's not Drew. Drew is so good at run fills 868 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: and fits, run fits. He's he's so good at timing 869 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: up the blitz. He has ball skills, you know where 870 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: he's able to secure interceptions. He's athletic, he can move side. 871 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's converted safety. You know they got you 872 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: know that now has the size and the strength to 873 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: play linebackers. So to me, yes, Drew is a pivotal 874 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: piece because I think this team could play more dime 875 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: because of Derwin. You know, you can be because of 876 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: the way that Derwin can play, you know, and if 877 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: I think if you had another safety that you trusted, 878 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: and clearly, for whatever reason, they stopped trusting Nods later 879 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: in the season. You know, Drwin can play that dime 880 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: linebacker role. You know that money that star that easily. 881 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: So I think Drew is is so important. You know Kenneth. Look, 882 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: Kenneth had a half sack in that game against the Jags, 883 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: but in the second half they really got him, They 884 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: really got after him, and I think in coverage, you know, 885 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: that's where the issues start to show up with Kenneth 886 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: Murray is is decision making and diagnosing and being able 887 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: to do it in the moment and kind of knowing 888 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: where that ball is going to go. And I just 889 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: feel like too many times we see him flatfooted, not 890 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: quite sure which way he's supposed to play it, and man, 891 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: it gets away from you in a hurry. So I 892 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: think on that level of the football, on that level 893 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: of the defense, drew one hundred percent for sure, And 894 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: I think they got to figure out what they want 895 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: to do because look, he's got one more year on 896 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: his rookie deal, so you know you're probably not going 897 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: to cut a guy like that loose. It's just and 898 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: I think That's why you saw that, you know, the 899 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: the change in the linebacker coaches. They're like, all right, 900 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: let's try to find someone because we know the guy's 901 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: got freaking athletic ability. For days, my gosh, we see 902 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: him walking around and it's like holy cow, you know, 903 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,479 Speaker 1: and you know how fast he can run. It's there. 904 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: So I think they just want to get that coaching 905 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: higher right at the linebacker level, and try to get 906 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray, you know, to play up to his potential 907 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: considering the physical gifts that he has. So we talk 908 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: about cap savings and all that stuff, and that'll be 909 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: something that plays itself out here over the next couple 910 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: of month. It's uh, Khalil Mack. Unfortunately, we didn't get 911 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: to see Joey and Khalil on the field for what 912 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: we needed to see. Um, Khalil has a big cap 913 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: savings number. Um. This upcoming year, I thought, you know, 914 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: he did his job. You know, he commanded a bunch 915 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: of double teams. He started the year with the Bang 916 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: with three sacks against the Raiders. Um. Was it a 917 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: tough position not having Joey on the other side. Um, 918 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: how do you move forward at the edge position around Joey. Um. 919 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: It's it's it's an interesting dilemma, I think because you know, 920 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: Kyle Vanoy played great down the stretch, he's a little 921 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: bit older, UM, Chris Rump still developing. Um. And then 922 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: you got Khalil with this big cap number in twenty 923 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 1: twenty three. I think they keep him. It's a lot 924 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: of money to sink into the edge position, but it's it's, 925 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 1: you know, the third it's the second or the third 926 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: most important position on the field, you know, O line, quarterback, 927 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,720 Speaker 1: N line, then D line, you know, especially pressure edge rushers. 928 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: So I think they keep him. If you had, you know, 929 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: if you had some other edge rushers that developed that 930 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: you can then plug in there, you know, then you're fine. 931 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, this is where resigning Chenna would have come 932 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: in handy, you know, because his number was not that big. 933 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 1: I think he got like ten or twelve million from 934 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Just sign him. Keep that guy, man. And 935 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: and I think this year, yeah, he played great this year, 936 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: But I get it, you know, you want to go 937 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 1: out and get Khalil, and the idea of parent Khalil 938 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: with Joey was certainly enticing. Totally get that, but unfortunately 939 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: the guy they had to replace, you know, Khalil what 940 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: is now in Seattle. So that's that's where it becomes 941 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: very tough to let him go because we saw what 942 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: it looked like with no one opposite him. There was 943 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: no pass rush, you know it and now and then 944 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 1: it came alive. It came alive in those final four 945 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: weeks with van Noy really settling in. I think they 946 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: bring him back. I think Kyle would want to day. 947 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: I could see them bringing him back. Such a valuable piece, 948 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, play so well down the stretch man. He 949 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: almost locked that thing up with that tip at the 950 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and nearly bauled it in on that 951 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: final drive, and boy, that would have changed things in 952 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: a hurry. He's just such a good player. I'd really 953 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: like to see him back. I'd like to see him 954 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: Morgan Fox back, you know, remember the interior that line. 955 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: They're gonna get Austin Johnson back, we know how good 956 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,919 Speaker 1: he was. They're gonna get Tito a Bonia back. So 957 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: that D line could really be a strength if you 958 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: just bring everyone back. Now that's easy to say because 959 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: they're all gonna want racist and they're all making a 960 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: pretty good amount, and you need some rookies on those deals, 961 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 1: and there aren't any. You know, there's Tito and there's Rump. 962 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: Otherwise it's it's Morgan Fox who's going to probably get 963 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: some offers. He played, you know, career high in sacks 964 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: from the interior. That's valuable around the league. So they 965 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: got to figure that out. You know, Kyle, I think 966 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: is always going to have value around the league. But 967 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: it certainly feels like he really likes it here. And 968 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: I know that Kyle wants to get into broadcasting, you know, 969 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: after he's done playing. And so I think that s 970 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: pretty good option, That's what I mean. So that could 971 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: help you get a little bit of a discount, you 972 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: know for Kyle, and I would love to see that 973 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: if he's willing to do it. Um, So, yeah, I would. 974 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: I would think they would just bring it back, you know, 975 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: run it back, is what I would think on that, 976 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: and then also invest invest in the draft, you know. 977 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: And and Tito I thought was a great you know it. 978 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: It was a real hit and miss draft this year 979 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: for you know, for the Chargers, they traded their second 980 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: they got Khalil mack hit Zion first round. I thought 981 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 1: absolute hit um j T. Woods obviously barely active, you know, 982 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: Isaiah Spiller, barely active Special teams, Dean just Seer fantastic, 983 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: so important to their special teams play this year. We 984 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 1: obviously know Jamari Sawyer a home run and I think 985 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: Tito was on the way to be in a home 986 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: run on the interior of that line. Yeah, so you know, 987 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: do it again, Do that again, Tom and Brandon team 988 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: up in the draft and do that again, you know, 989 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: and get you know, and get after it. It's funny, 990 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 1: you know for all the people that that kind of 991 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: takes shots at Tom Man when you look at some 992 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,399 Speaker 1: of these teams and the way their draft picks at 993 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 1: their first round picks line up to see the Chargers 994 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 1: and their first round picks, and how he hits over 995 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: and over, you know, Mike Williams, Derwin, James, Joey bosas Zion, 996 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: Rashaun Slater, like it's just hit after hit at Justin 997 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: Herbert obviously, you know, so so important to hit on 998 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: your first rounder Um, and he has repeatedly. You know. 999 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery is the one miss, you know, and that 1000 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: was the twenty eighth pick. So yeah, you know, it 1001 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: gets a little tougher when you're back there, but you 1002 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: hope to Kenneth and you hope that Kenneth can can 1003 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: maintain or improve upon. You know, I thought to improve. 1004 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was a win though, for for Kenneth 1005 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: to play as much as he did this year and 1006 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: kind of get back to you know, he had a 1007 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 1: lot of injuries in addition to a new coaching staff here, 1008 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 1: and there was just a lot of things swirling there 1009 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: and I was, you know, just watching him, and he's 1010 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 1: such a good guy. You're proud of a guy you 1011 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: come back and bounce back, you know, And I think, look, 1012 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: I think for again, I think that's why there's going 1013 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: to be a new linebackers coach, because they feel like, yeah, 1014 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: he took another step this year, so now let's get 1015 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: someone else in there and see if we can really 1016 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: unlock it. Because again, there's there's flashes. It's there. It's 1017 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: just the big issue is getting someone that can coach 1018 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: him to be more comfortable in those moments where he's 1019 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: got to make a decision where he's got to pick 1020 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: AIRB or A B or C. And that's just the 1021 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: next step for him. And I look, I believe he 1022 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: can take it, I think, you know, so I to me, 1023 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,240 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of where it all comes into play. 1024 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,919 Speaker 1: So the so the draft this year money actually bringing 1025 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: a you know, these are gonna be guys that are 1026 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna really change the way the twenty twenty three roster looks. 1027 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: But I also would put J. T. Woods and Zaiah 1028 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: Spiller that category as guys that we don't really know 1029 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: much about at this point, and you hope that they 1030 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: can develop because everybody, everybody develops differently. Sometimes it just 1031 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 1: fizzles out, but sometimes the light goes on and an 1032 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: opportunity comes on and you can you can see what JT. 1033 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: Woods is. I know he had a I just I 1034 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: remember that that Arizona game, but tough moment for him 1035 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 1: with the DeAndre Hopkins touchdown, and we didn't really see 1036 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: much of him throughout this year, you know. And again 1037 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: we we already talked about Isaiah that we saw the 1038 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: talent and training camp in the film at Texas A 1039 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: and M. You know, these are two guys that are 1040 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: currently on this roster that you hope can make an impact, 1041 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: especially with a little bit of flux at the other 1042 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: safety position opposite Derwin. I think in terms of you know, 1043 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: for JT. You know that you can't. You have to 1044 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 1: have a good decision maker back there. That position has 1045 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: got to be able to make the right decision every 1046 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: time because you're the last line of defense and I 1047 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: think far too often they were concerned with that. And look, 1048 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot, man, it's a lot that the game 1049 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: is so much faster in the NFL than college. Um, 1050 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: and so it's a lot to take in. Um. I'm 1051 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: hopeful that that he can figure out because look, the 1052 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: guy led the nation and interceptions, you know, his senior 1053 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: year Baylor, So we know he can. He can catch 1054 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: football and he can make plays. It's just a matter 1055 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: of getting it, getting the game to slow down so 1056 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: he can get that decision making part of it right. 1057 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: Not a great tackler, he's probably got to you know. 1058 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: And and and that's that's the other issue. You got 1059 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: to be able to tackle, you know. So you know, 1060 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: so many teams are all about that. You know, the 1061 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: Jags are one of them. There are you better, You 1062 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: better you know, diagnose correctly make that tackle because they 1063 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: are a physical team. You know the size of those receivers, 1064 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: the strength you know, antn is a load uh not 1065 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: only is he fati two hundred twenty two fifteen, two 1066 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: hundred twenty pounds six one. So like it's things like 1067 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: that that you know, I think coming to play for 1068 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: JT diagnosing being able to tackle um. You know, we 1069 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 1: talked about the offense and the need for a speed receiver. 1070 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: We know how deep it is their speed all over 1071 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: the first round at that position, you know that they 1072 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 1: could look at I think the other thing you know 1073 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: that you got to ask yourself, is you know since 1074 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: Hunter left, you know, I think I think if you 1075 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: had asked Tom, Hey, I get it, the injuries were 1076 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,439 Speaker 1: a concern. The number that the Patriots through in front 1077 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: of him was crazy, But knowing what you know now, 1078 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: I think they would have liked to have just given 1079 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: that same deal to Hunter, you know, just to have 1080 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: that all around tight end. You know that Hunter Henry 1081 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: is so I could see them addressing that as well, 1082 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: because man, when we got to the red zone and look, 1083 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: Everett was great, you know, tied a career high and 1084 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns career high and catches career high and yards at 1085 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: the same time. You know, he's pass catching tight. It's 1086 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 1: not really that full service tight end. And I think 1087 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: it's hard to have. You know, I do think the 1088 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 1: tight end room probably need to be addressed, and sir, 1089 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 1: if there is someone, if there's someone in a spot 1090 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: where you're comfortable. And look, I'm biased. I called the 1091 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,919 Speaker 1: game where he absolutely lit up sc but man Dalton 1092 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: Kinkaid is special at Utah. I know he's got some 1093 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 1: injury issues, but that dude is I mean, it's crazy 1094 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: to say that guy's like Travis Kelcey esque, like he 1095 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 1: is different. So I think getting an elite tight end 1096 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: could you know, along with people keep talking about that 1097 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: speed receiver, but to me, like elite tight end man 1098 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,919 Speaker 1: that could really unlock some things for this offense as well. 1099 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's been a bit of a 1100 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: revolving door right since und Like, yeah, Jared Cook and 1101 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 1: then you know the potential of param is there. But 1102 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, he missed a lot of this season. Arrold 1103 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: had some really good games. He had some drops, but 1104 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: he also had you know, he had an hunter yard 1105 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: game in the playoffs. You know, I thought Gerald exactly 1106 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: played well, but that the type of tight end you're 1107 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: talking about is I think the guy that they lack 1108 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 1: right now, and he could be maybe the missing piece 1109 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: to this offense as well, So that'll be another fun 1110 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,479 Speaker 1: position to look at. The last thing. I can't believe 1111 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: we went an hour. The last thing I have money 1112 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: is just you know, Rick Goslin does these special teams 1113 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: rankings every year, and the Chargers were seventh, and that 1114 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: never happens. So Ryan Thinkin deserves a ton of credit 1115 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 1: for what he did in just one season with this team. 1116 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: And I really thought that the way the special teams 1117 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: played kept them in games, won them games, and really 1118 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,839 Speaker 1: was the most steady presence in all three phases this 1119 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: year by far. Look, I think there's so much you know, Look, 1120 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: start with Thicken, right, he's the one that coached it up. Two, 1121 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, is a tie Brandon Stalely and Tom Talasco. 1122 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: You know, working that draft, working free agency, remember they 1123 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,919 Speaker 1: signed you know, they spent the most money that any 1124 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: team is spent on a launch snapper and Josh Harris. Right, 1125 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 1: so they bring in the right long snapper, and then 1126 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, Dustin Hopkins goes down and Bertolette comes and 1127 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 1: he's perfect in his game. Then Bertolett goes down, Hopkins 1128 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: comes back, boots a bunch of field goals with a 1129 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: busted up quad and he goes down, and then they 1130 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: go out and get Cameron Dicker, who was exceptional all 1131 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: season long. They identified the punter. I'm sure I would 1132 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 1: have to believe that Ficken's the one that told him 1133 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: about j K. Scott haven't played in this division in 1134 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: the in the North, and so you know Scott, who 1135 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 1: had a rough season the season prior. He's like, now 1136 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,439 Speaker 1: this is the guy, and yeah, he was the guy. 1137 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: And on top of that, you go out and you 1138 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: spend money on DeAndre Carter, who was I think what 1139 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: third in punt return average yards. Basically, you know, the 1140 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 1: way Tom said it to us is, hey, every time 1141 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: he gets a how good is DeAndre Carter? Every time 1142 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: he returns a punt, he gets your first down eleven 1143 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: yards average punt return. He gets you a first down 1144 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 1: on every punt return. So you know your credit coach 1145 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: and general manager Tom Tolesco and obviously Ryan Ficken the 1146 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: special team's coach. And look, they signed Troy Reader into 1147 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: the back end of that draft. We know how much 1148 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley loves having defensive backs on special teams, and 1149 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,920 Speaker 1: they invested heavily in Jasier Taylor, Dean Leonard. They won 1150 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: them a game together, those two rookies the Broncos game 1151 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: and overtime force in that fumble and the game winning 1152 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: field go there, they got the fifth turnover the game 1153 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville exactly, you know. So it's it's it's a test, 1154 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: and that's an important position. It's an important facet. You know. 1155 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: They's talk about three phases. To have that third phase 1156 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: when games are as tight as they are in the 1157 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: NFL these days, you know, and there's a reason why 1158 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: underdogs ruled this year, you know, and a parody is 1159 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: always kay, we had another one was at nineteen I 1160 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: think it's nineteen years or no, I think it's every year. 1161 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: I want to say it has been every single year 1162 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: since nineteen whatever ninety four that a team has gone 1163 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 1: worse to first, you know, and in at least one division. 1164 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: It's crazy, Like it just speaks to the parody and 1165 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: how tight games are and why special teams is so important. 1166 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: So to have that right moving forward now, and they 1167 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: have an interesting decision to make a kicker. You know, 1168 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: who's gonna ask you, what is it? Hopkins? You keep 1169 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: dicker like I hate doing it because you know, it's 1170 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: somebody's livelihood you know, but you know, the typically the 1171 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: youth always wins out just because of the cost, you know, 1172 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: when you're trying to scrap and save every cent. You know, 1173 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: you want to pay Cameron Dicker seven hundred and fifty grand, 1174 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: you want to pay Dustin Hopkins four million bucks. You know, 1175 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: it's just it's just economics at that point, if you 1176 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,919 Speaker 1: if you feel as though the difference between those two 1177 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 1: is negligible, and you could probably make a case that Dicker, 1178 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, even outperformed Dustin just because of the kickoffs. 1179 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: And I think it's so important to remember that how 1180 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 1: in how booting that ball out of the back of 1181 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: the end zone benefits a team from having to make tackles, 1182 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, the physical toll that it takes on having 1183 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: to having to tackle a returner. And how good some 1184 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: returner are in this league. You know, Agne is such 1185 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: a good returner, And even with those conditions out there, 1186 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: Dicker was you know, I think there were one or 1187 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: two maybe that he returned. Otherwise he was able to 1188 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: boot them all out of the back of the end zone. 1189 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: So I'd be very surprised if Cam Dicker wasn't back 1190 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: next year as their kicker. You talk about touchbacks. This 1191 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: isn't the sexiest of stats, but pun coverage three point 1192 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: one yards for the Chargers best in the NFL. The 1193 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: worst was Cleveland twelve point three, the league average eight 1194 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: point eight eight. That mean that that's unbelievable compared to 1195 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 1: what we've seen from the special teams to the Chargers. Really, 1196 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, I can just data back to when they 1197 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: moved to LA twenty seventeen. What they did this year 1198 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: was nothing short of exceptional. So, so kudos or Ryan. 1199 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm just pulling up the numbers here to 1200 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: show you the difference, and I think, you know, here 1201 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: we go punting, and I want to go. You mentioned 1202 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: the return yards, so led the league in return yards. 1203 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: At where is it hold on average? There? It is 1204 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: so three point one right, Let's go to the twenty 1205 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 1: twenty one regular season and the Chargers are twenty ninth 1206 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: eleven fair catches five in twenty twenty one five fair catches, 1207 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: which means you have to cover all of those punts, right, 1208 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: seventy three punts five or this year thirty three. That 1209 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: is a plus twenty eight in fair catches. You know, 1210 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 1: now there were seventy three punts this year. I go 1211 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: back to last year, I want to make sure I'm 1212 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: not kind of so it's a lot different, right, last year, 1213 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: you got a lot more punts this year seventy three 1214 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 1: to forty seven, but still five and eleven on average, 1215 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: which is third worst in the league compared to three 1216 01:00:54,600 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: point nine and that many and thirty two. So thirty three, 1217 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean, just yes, they got that one. They got 1218 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 1: that one right with JK, no doubt about it. They 1219 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: nailed it. They nailed it all right. Hey, we're gonna 1220 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 1: have a lot of time this all season to break 1221 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 1: down position groups, to draft, free agency, anything else before 1222 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 1: we get out of here. Just a huge thanks, you know, 1223 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: to all the people that downloaded, that interacted with us 1224 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: through social media. You know, we're lucky to get to 1225 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: do this. Love doing it every week with you, Chris, 1226 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 1: big thank you to you to our man BG for 1227 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: helping us set it up all week always. Obviously the 1228 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: whole social media team and the digital team led by 1229 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Jason just awesome. It's it's really great to work with 1230 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 1: this team. They're so talented in digital media, in social 1231 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: media and what they allow us to do and putting 1232 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 1: this together and putting it up for the people to 1233 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 1: consume it, and for those of you that do consume it, 1234 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: we can't thank you enough. It's a lot of fun 1235 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: to do this every week. Yep, I echo all of that. Man. 1236 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: I love doing this with your brother as always, and 1237 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: we'll keep it rolling all last season. So for money Up, Chris. 1238 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: This has been Chargers Weekly, the first one of twenty 1239 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: twenty three's offseason. H