WEBVTT - What Your Brain Does With Trauma—And How to Finally Heal It (Pt 1) 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.200 So Correy shot and killed himself last night, the same 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:08.960 night that I was considering. You know, and I do 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.640 say this's Corey saved my life. Unfortunately, went took his 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:15.200 own doing the memorial service, let. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:16.000 Guys get closured. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.959 When I saw how it affected the guys, I realized, Okay, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.880 I cannot go out this way. I cannot give permission 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.880 to my men to do this. The fear was not 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.280 letting them down, but giving them permission, because you knew 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:29.240 they were all struggling. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.720 They're all struggling. 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.879 Welcome to an army of normal folks. I'm Bill Courtney, 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:39.800 I'm a normal guy. I'm a husband, I'm a father, 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.239 I'm an entrepreneur, and I'm a football coach in inter 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.680 city Memphis. And that last part, well, it somehow led 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.640 to a film about one of my teams that actually 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.240 won the Oscar. That movie is called Undefeated. Guys. I 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.160 believe our country's problems are never going to be solved 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.240 by a bunch of fancy people and I using big 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:05.040 words that nobody ever uses on CNN and Fox, but 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:09.440 rather by an army of normal folks. That's us, just 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.399 you and me deciding, Hey, you know what, maybe I 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.280 can help. That's what Dan Jarvis, the voice you just heard, 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.640 has done. Dan was a squad leader in Afghanistan, and 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:25.520 his traumatic experience there and returning home led him to 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:30.120 plan on becoming part of the statistic of twenty two 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:38.120 veterans committing suicide every day. Thankfully he didn't, and today 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:43.679 his nonprofit, Healing the Hero, is spreading a trauma resiliency 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:48.480 protocol that helped him. Heal has since helped over eighteen 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:54.400 thousand people and he is just getting started. Dan is 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:58.040 yet another example of how you can transform your pain 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.560 and to your greatest purpose, and how you can be 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.240 a dog on a bone, not letting go of your 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:08.560 mission until every single person has access to the solution. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.680 I can't wait for you to meet Dan. Right after 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:26.080 these brief messages from our general sponsors, Dan Jarvis from 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.960 winter Haven, Florida, drove up from Dallas to be with us. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.960 Hey you doing man, I'm good. How you doing, coach, 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.639 I'm good. Thanks for being here. I appreciate you everybody. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.240 Dan Jarvis is the founder of Healing the Hero from 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:45.639 winter Haven, Florida, travels around a lot. This is an 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.520 interview that I am really excited about because it combines 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.520 two things that I'm actually very passionate about, which is 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.480 the brain. I'm a psychology major, which many of our 0:02:55.480 --> 0:03:00.560 longtime listeners. I've said that probably twenty times. I'm really 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.520 enjoy the. 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.040 Science behind psychology. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:10.280 And you're a veteran and I have an enormous amount 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.280 of respect and appreciation for those who've served our country 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.560 and your capacity. I've said this for but I sleep 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.400 really well at night. No one men like you are 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.160 on the wall. And so before we start, I really 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.600 want to say to you, and I don't I hate 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:30.200 it when it comes off almost like when people say, Hey, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.320 how you doing this morning? They really don't care how 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.800 you are that morning. It's just a greeting, and a 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:39.240 lot of people greet that's with thanks for your service, 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.640 but it almost seems just kind of like a comment 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.000 in passing. But I mean, Dan, when I tell you 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.760 that I appreciate your service, I want you to know 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.200 how deeply sincere I am. When I say how much 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.600 I appreciate you and your brother's an armed service to 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.520 our country and to the people of our country. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.040 Thank you for being worth it. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.680 That is a crazy good response, and it also makes 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:09.280 me feel even bigger, like a toolshed that I did 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.800 serve I'm worth it, but I didn't do anything to 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.520 earn it. We'll let him reassess it at the end 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.000 of the interview, whether you've been worth it or not. Yeah, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.760 that's a good point, all right. One last thing before 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.640 we go. A lot of people bring their wives or 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.240 their girlfriends or their friends with them, uh, and they 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:27.760 just kind of sit over there and an interview and 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:32.039 I ask questions. And you have a girl with you 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:36.760 who is extremely close to you, but unfortunately, I don't 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:42.080 think she'll respond to my questions. Mays, we're going to 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.440 tell you the story about how May's came into your life. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:51.200 But everybody, Mays is a former service dog or current 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.279 what do we call make she's a service dog. She's 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:58.719 a service dog, and she's beautiful. She's half German Shepherd 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:02.640 and half in Melawon, which for those who don't know 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.840 what that is, those are those crazy dogs that can 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.560 jump all over everything and jump on top of ladders 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.880 and stand. And she's been hanging out with me a 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.200 little bit. She's perched under the table, and she's beautiful 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:17.880 and she's really friendly. So I guess May's welcome welcome 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.520 to Amazement. Another guy that I have a lot of 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.280 respect for, Scott Man, recommended you to us. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.080 Do you know Scott? Oh, I know Scott very well. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.600 Alex asked Scott what some of his favorite nonprofits were 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.360 and he named Healing the Hero, which we're going to 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:37.200 spend most of our time on together. But I think 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.960 it's absolutely Germaine to the story when we talk about 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:44.720 Healing the Hero. Why that meant so much to you? 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.200 And I think it's best to start our March second, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:52.400 twenty thirteen. When you found yourself looking down the barrel 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.920 of a rifle? Can you tell us about that? But 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.240 most importantly, what brought you to that place? 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.159 Yes, that was a turning point in my life. It's 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:06.320 when I was so overwhelmed emotionally. I couldn't regulate, and 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.919 all I would do is drink alcohol because it's a 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.279 central nervous system depressant. I didn't realize what was going on. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.360 I didn't know what was happening. I just thought I 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:18.000 was stronger than that. Why am I experiencing these emotional 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.360 roller coaster rides? You know, if you go back up 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.240 a year prior to that, I was deployed to Afghanistan, 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:27.919 and in my squad, eight of us. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.080 Were awarded purple hearts to include myself. 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.640 How many people in the squad there's usually nine, but 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.440 then plus usually a gun team. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.920 So eleven and eight, Yeah, had been wounded. Eight had 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:39.520 been wounded. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.680 Four of them left theater not to return because of 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:47.560 the injuries. One left in a flag drape body bag. 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:53.159 And when we lost Doug. It was August nineteen, twenty eleven. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.320 It was nine thirty six in the morning. And I 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.720 know this because I'll never forget that moment. I'm a 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:01.760 thirty six am. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:02.200 Yeah. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.320 It was in the Zabo Province of Afghanistan, which is 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.440 between Kandahar and Helman Province, and we were doing a 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.640 mission off the main Ring Road. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.120 There's like one asphalt ring. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.000 Road around the entire country of Afghanistan. They called it 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.000 Ring Road, and then all the others are dirt roads. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.440 We were on Route Snake. One of our other platoons, 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:27.000 sister platoons, had discovered an ID on a hilltop. The 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.320 lieutenant there actually stepped on it and it kind of 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.640 fizzled out. So they were we were escorting the explosives guys, 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:33.480 the bomb techs. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.680 We should have stopped on the main road, stepped on it, 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.680 and it fizzled out. Yeah, it didn't detonate. That'll wake 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:42.160 you up. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.880 Yeah, I'm sure Lieutenant Howard probably still thinks about that. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.880 Right. He literally stepped on this. He stepped on it. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.520 It was you know, one of those they're like toe poppers, 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:57.160 and it didn't detonate. Sure, yeah, he's there's a lot 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.000 of us that have had close calls. So that day 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.520 that we lost Doug, we were on a black route, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.480 which means the route hadn't been cleared. And originally the 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.040 Romanian military was supposed to do it, but they refused 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:09.920 the mission because of. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.679 The route, and they refused the mission. They refused the mission. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.880 The Remainians were responsible for a kilometer off the main road, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.320 so they did all of the you know, ied exploitation 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.760 and you know, and if it was one kilometer north 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.360 or south that was there, that was their responsibility and 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.960 we took care of everything else. So remember that specific mission. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.320 We had just gotten back from being at a patrol base. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.319 We were out for a week, we were going to 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.640 get a couple of days down, and then the mission 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.280 came up, like literally as soon as everybody got cleaned up, 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.520 weapons got cleaned and then we had to go right 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.720 back out and we just did what we did our 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.560 normal brief as we get ready to go. One of 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.839 the vehicles that was in our convoy was a what's 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.560 called it MGS, a main gun system Strikers one hundred 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.000 and five millimeter howiser. So it looks like a tank 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.200 but on wheels. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.880 And we've seen those. Yeah, I didn't know what the 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.800 as well. It does look like a tank, but it's 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.360 got tires. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.960 Eight, it's got eight wheels and they're very large wheels. 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:11.760 It's a very powerful weapons platform. But it's also you know, 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.880 it comes with a big signature, right you see it, 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.719 and it looks like a tank. And when we went 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.880 down that specific route, we got into a waddie. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:20.760 We came out of the wady. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.640 I was in the lead vehicle, so our job was 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.839 to exploit it, find IDs and then we would call 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.280 up the EOD guys, the explosive guys that were with us. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.280 I've read this. I've read this. 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.199 The minute I saw read that, I thought, what I'm 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:41.080 about to ask you, what does find IUDs mean? I mean, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:42.959 aren't they under the ground. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.240 They're typically under the ground. So what we look do 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:45.800 you find them? 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.160 Other than running over them things, You're really looking for 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.840 disturbed earth, you know, because if they're digging, it depends 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.319 on when they placed the I D there, So you're 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:55.359 looking for the indicators. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:56.560 We had the we had what was. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.440 Called a mind roller on our striker, but the also 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.800 the benefit of as we were we just fielded the 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.960 very first double Vhle strikers. So the double Vhle Strikers 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.680 is a pretty awesome platform because it allows the energy 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.120 to dissipate. The MGS striker with the one oh five 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.559 howitzer was still a flat bottom, so there's nowhere for 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:17.600 the energy to go except through the bottom of. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.720 The vehicle and a V groove imagine like I guess 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:21.480 a speed boat. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.079 Well it's a little bit smaller than that kind of 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:29.560 a groove. They have like sections of the hull that 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.760 have openings and there is a little bit of a 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.720 degree of variation of the metal which allows it not 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.880 to appear to be flat. And what it does is 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.320 when the energy hits it, the energy will dissipate through 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:43.760 the sides in the back of the vehicle. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.760 It's instead of coming through it. I don't know whoever 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.800 the engineer was a design that it's absolutely brilliant. Was 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.440 We actually fielded the very first hit on one of 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.000 those id's in country and it was just like a 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.439 roller coaster ride for the guys inside. 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.640 But nobody was hurt really so because of the v 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.160 I guess instead of a flat when the concussion the 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.479 explosion happens, it just kind of redirects. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.960 It redirects the energy and the energy will go out 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.240 the sides in the back. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.920 Instead of straight to the floor. Okay, so when Doug 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:12.640 got hit it. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.000 Well, well, so you're in this thing leading this steal 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.200 right and looking for disturbed. 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:18.640 Yeah, we're Earth. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.520 We're looking for the disturbed or if we're looking for 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.040 anything that may be an indicator. Sometimes you'll see wires 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:27.120 if their command wire. This specific wody that we had 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.439 gone through. We have a what's called a mine roller, 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.000 so it forces pressure on the earth in front of us. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.720 So it's designed to detonate an ID before the vehicle 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:36.200 gets to it. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.440 So how far out in front of your vehicle is it. 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.560 It's probably from the very front of the vehicle. Maybe 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.800 it extends out about eight feet. 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:45.000 That's all you need. 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.280 Yeah, because if the further the detonation is away from 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.880 the vehicle, the higher likelihood of survivability, like significant anybody 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:54.559 if it detonated ten feet in front of us or 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.560 beside us, nobody in the vehicle. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:56.960 Would be harmed. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.360 Maybe maybe get your ears rung a little bit if 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.200 you're like me as a truck commander, you're standing up 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:06.480 outside of the vehicle. But that day we went through it, 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.600 and I really feel kind of bad because as we 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:11.560 made it through the water, I'm like, look, I guess 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:12.880 boys were still among the living. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.760 And then my driver was drivers, that's mess up. I say, hey, 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:17.200 you got to got to see the humor in this. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.679 And then maybe a minute later we heard the explosion 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.000 behind us, and that's. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:24.120 When when Doug got hit. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.480 And when that vehicle was hit, what they do is 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.360 there's a button that you push and you shut off 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.880 all of the fuel to that vehicle and it shuts the. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:34.640 Whole vehicle down. 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:40.440 Originally, Sarbrokowski was the truck commander there. He put up 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.040 a green flag indicating everything was okay, and then when 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.640 he turned his handheld radio on, then that's when he 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.520 requested a medic and that's when we realized something was 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:51.360 not happening. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.160 That was wasn't good. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.880 And I'll never forget that day because the Medica is 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.520 the very last vehicle the patoon sergeant and Doc left better. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.160 Was our medic and you're just seeing them. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.760 They're they're with a mind detector, very slowly kind of 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.760 clear on earth because they had to get up to 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.040 the vehicle yet and you can't just run up to 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.800 the vehicle because secondary IDs, pressure plates, you know, they 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.920 have no protection. And the bomb guys amazing. It was 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:21.240 a Navy crew, the Naval Special Warfare guys. They exited, 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.320 they were in the third vehicle and they still had 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:24.960 to go back two vehicles and that was you know 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:26.000 you're talking about that. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:27.520 Nobody were not like super close. 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.600 There's there's distance and just washing those guys clearing, i 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.320 mean they're like hauling butt back to the back vehicle. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.240 And then they cleared all the way up and then 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.160 they got to Doug and got him out of the 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.840 vehicle and then they announced that he had been killed 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.880 in action, and that was tough. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.000 Nobody else in the vehicle was hurt. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:50.360 Yeah, sargeant Rakowski was injured. The other both of them, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.640 there was only three in that vehicle. Because that vehicles 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.200 designed to have a three person a driver, a gunner, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.880 and a truck commander. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:03.280 So the dry and the gunner. The driver was killed. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:03.800 That was Doug. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.480 And then you had Sarnbrokowski and started Lore were the 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.600 they were the tankers that were inside of the vehicle, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:14.160 and they both got meta backed. Sarnrokowski was banged up 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.319 pretty good and he did he's he was sent back 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.880 to the States and sart Lower continued the mission. He 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:23.560 was fine. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.680 And now a few messages from our general sponsors. 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So you can get a generic 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.120 one that just says an army of normal folks, or 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.320 you can go this is an army in normal Folks 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.960 Memphis at Army and Normal Folks witch Stall, So you 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.320 can get it for your service club, or you can 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.960 get it just for listening, you know, wearing your normal stuff. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.120 Another thing we've done is we really did want people 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.720 to wear it, so we've priced every item at the 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.280 cost to make them zero dollars in profit for us. 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.600 So we figured the more folks that can afford this 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.280 stuff and the more items they could buy, it's just 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.760 helping spread an army and normal Folks across the country. 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.680 So we're trying to make it as inexpensive as possible 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.800 for all of you. So get yours at normal Folks 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.360 dot us today. Help us grow the army in your 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:42.480 community and look cool representing the Army and Normal Folks brand. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.600 We'll see you wearing that stuff when you send us 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.040 pictures and we get to post it on our social media. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:16:05.240 We'll be right back. Are these things like mines? So 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.120 like old school mines have some type of pressure thing 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.400 that when you push on it, it activates it. 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:12.960 And then when you lift they explode. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.600 Is that what this was or is there some guy 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.000 somewhere watching this and they're either wired or remote controlled 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.760 and they just decided to blow it them. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.480 So this specific id was more than likely it was 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:29.520 homemade explosives. So they're using ammonium nitrate and what they'll 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.920 do is they'll bury it. This one was not a 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.000 pressure wire, which is why we didn't set it off. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:40.000 This was a what's called a command wire, and the 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.520 radio signal is what set it off. In other words, 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.640 they waited for that specific vehicle because of what it 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.080 looked like being a tank. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.520 That's the vehicle that they targeted. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.360 And we know this because as we met a act 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.840 Sarn Rokowski, Sarn Lore and then they take Cordo's body out, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.960 we had to recover the vehicle and that the mechanics 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.960 that came out. They had hooked the vehicle up was 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.760 already missing one wheel. And I'll never forget. As we're 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:10.000 driving back out and I'm the vehicle right behind the striker. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.600 As we're pulling it out, another platoon had come to 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:18.040 assist us, and the vehicle hit an idea second time, 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.200 So they targeted that same vehicle a second time. And 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.480 I'll never forget because I'm standing up and I'm like 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.359 twenty five maybe twenty yards behind it, and I'm just 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:31.679 watching this massive striker wheel, which they're huge, They're like 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.639 five feet big old round wheel, and I just watched 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.400 this striker wheel fly about three hundred meters through the air. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.480 That's crazy. That's the amount of force. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.399 And it got to the point where as we're moving 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.240 out of that I mean, they were basically dragging this 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:51.720 vehicle out, and the vehicle behind us said, hey, my interpreter, 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.359 who's listening to an icon ra is hearing chatter that 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:58.280 they're trying to hit another vehicle. And his electronic warfare 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.840 system was going off. So in other words, they were 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.479 trying to command wire another ID on that on us 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.679 as we're coming out. But that system was designed to 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.639 jam those radio signals so he could hear his system operating. 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.280 And then we had we found targets and we just 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.159 we lit them up for about two three minutes, and 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.199 then we continue to pull the vehicle out because we 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:19.040 had to get we had to. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.480 Get the guys back out of that area. That was 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:22.240 a pretty bad day. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.280 It was pretty you know, it's it's warfare, you know, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.960 it's just kind of what we experienced in the military. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.280 And everybody in the platoon, I mean, we knew we 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:33.040 lost our brother. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:38.120 He had already been announced KA and you know, as 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.800 tough as it is, you know, mission has to continue, 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.960 and we learned to compartmentalize and when we all got 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.760 back to the fob, everybody just had the thousand yards stare. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.119 You know, we just you know, nothing we could do 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.159 at that moment. So that was that was probably one 0:18:55.160 --> 0:19:01.800 of the worst days of my life. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.000 So when somebody like me says thank you for your service, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:10.040 I'm thanking you for your service, but I'm also saying 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.760 thanks for enduring trauma. The ninety nine point nine percent 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.160 of us will never understand. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:26.160 And that's why we do it. Seth Alverton, Somebody's got 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:31.600 to hold the guard. So I've heard about survivors guilt before. 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:35.879 Is that what that was for you? 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.560 That was an eight hundred pound gorilla that I couldn't 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:45.000 get off my back because even in theater, even in theater, 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.960 because the problem that I had was, if you want 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.600 to back up three weeks. I'm leading a patrol across 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.679 the Tarnac River. I have four Americans and I have 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.600 four Afghan soldiers and one brand new interpreter we've never 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.800 worked with before, and we had to link up with 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:02.160 our strikers. We were doing a mission up on top 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:03.840 of a mountain. We were on one side. We had 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.960 both sides of the mountain covered and we were just 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:08.440 assessing patterns of life. 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:09.320 I tried to tell them on. 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.800 Lieutenant, I said, they suck out here, assess it's done. 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.000 But we had We were getting hit from behind the 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.480 one mountain, so they were launching rockets to us. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.560 So we were up there hoping to capture something. 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:23.800 So I had to lead a group down across the 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.000 river and to link up with our strikers because we're 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.560 all dismounted up on the mountain. And as we're coming 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.560 across the river, we're getting ready to go down into 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:33.960 the river and come back to the other side. 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.960 So a valley and a yeah, pretty exposed. 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.600 River exposed and that's really the only green you'll see 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:41.760 up there in the Afghanistan. 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:42.560 It's right along the river. 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.000 There's green on both sides, so there's a little bit 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:49.080 of vegetation going through there. And I stepped on a 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.880 pressure plate on that dismount of patrol and I detonated 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.280 an id that was probably five ten feet away, and 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:58.560