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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, it's Shackie Goldschneider and Jen Fessler.

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Speaker 2: We are two Jersey Jays. I feel like we haven't

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Speaker 2: recorded in a little while.

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Speaker 3: We absolutely have them almost are I don't like with

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Speaker 2: It was like a long time.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think I blocked that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a long time. How was your Valentine's Day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Valentine's Day? Completely uneventful. Yeah, I don't even We didn't

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Speaker 3: even go out. We had we ate some brought some

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Speaker 3: chocolate home. We exchanged cards. That's it. Wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: You want to know two of my children have significant

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Speaker 1: others now so new evening like driving them around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two of them.

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Speaker 3: How cute is that? Come?

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Speaker 2: I know, it's very very cute. It's very cute.

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Speaker 3: Wait the older ones. I'm assuming your older time.

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Speaker 1: My daughter's got a little boyfriend for like five Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they went months in dinner. Yeah, they really enjoy

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Speaker 3: But she was fourteen, right.

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Speaker 2: She's fourteen.

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Speaker 1: And then my old are turning seventeen in three weeks

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Speaker 2: Like how did you?

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't do it. That was

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Speaker 3: So but not even to teach them to drive, I.

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Speaker 3: I got nothing. I got nothing good for you. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you. It's scary, yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I mean the truth is, I'm even scared, not as

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Speaker 3: much as Zach. I'm being honest, but I get nervous

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Speaker 3: now with Rachel driving just and I you know, as

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Speaker 3: much as you say to them, that's the only thing

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Speaker 3: that you can be doing is driving. There is no this.

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Speaker 3: There is no texting, there is no talking on the phone,

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Speaker 3: when I mean, they just don't always listen. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm always a nervous wrack about it, I know, agreed.

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Speaker 1: Funny last night I went out with some girlfriends for

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Speaker 1: drinks and we were talking about college because all our

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Speaker 3: That I went home with guys. I mean, if we're

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Speaker 3: of a hoe. But that's like a home makes.

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Speaker 2: Me scared anyway.

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Speaker 1: Just trust that your children will make decently good decisions

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Speaker 1: and say no to drugs anyway.

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Speaker 3: Drugs, yes, especially now ly it's that's a whole other

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Speaker 3: very dear friend whose sun died of fentanyl.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, that's the one that you wear the sweatshirts

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Speaker 1: being Jack happy to Jack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my friend Brady, it's that's another Maybe she'll come on.

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Speaker 3: That's another episode. It's a scary, serious topic. Then we

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Speaker 3: have today today, we have some fun things to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited for our guests because I feel

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Speaker 1: like her her trajectory has been so multifaceted, like we

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Speaker 2: She's very interesting and she was not on my radar

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Speaker 3: on the housewid of Toronto. You guys, So today we

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Speaker 3: are talking to Roxy Earl. And by the way, the

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Speaker 2: But if you had, you could know her because she

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Speaker 3: Yes, she was a standout. And Roxy did the one

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Speaker 1: Which is really like something that I can relate to

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Speaker 2: Did you have any fertility problems?

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Speaker 2: Hi, Roxy, We are so excited to have you.

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Speaker 4: Hi, pretty lady, my favorite girls from Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But you have two homes.

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Speaker 5: it's very fabulous. It's pretty cold in Toronto right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jersey too, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But it's starting it's starting that warm up. Anyway, enough

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Speaker 4: I'm just so excited to be on here for copy

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Speaker 3: We are so excited.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing, really fun.

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Speaker 2: So let's have fun, all right, get some fun? Okay,

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Speaker 2: So can we start with the Real Housewives of Toronto?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Always like is this real?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: It's so juicy. I've seen it. It's spicy.

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Speaker 4: He's the most incredible fertility doctor in the world.

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Speaker 3: Said, We're not that's turning this around on us, lady, No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: It's not that I would go back with like certain friends.

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Speaker 5: Right if it doesn't bring joy like we were getting

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Speaker 4: It like becoming when it's your real life.

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Speaker 3: When I started, they the producer said to me, your

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Speaker 3: job is who say everything you think? So right, So like,

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Speaker 3: It's I think it's brought all three of us. You know,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so questions about Toronto.

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Speaker 1: So so of the people on your original cast, you

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Speaker 5: I stayed in touch with a few, and they're like

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Speaker 4: Baby coming back with you were born? No one was. No.

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Speaker 5: The whole thing when they brought it back to me

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Speaker 3: Rochie, how old are you? You look so young?

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Speaker 4: Fun now?

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Speaker 3: How old?

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Speaker 4: I did forty one?

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Speaker 5: Girls Korean skincare and so I just when I did

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Speaker 5: And I think when they came back to me what

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Speaker 4: Said, absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: Like the housewives, as you know, can be very toxic,

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Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, but I know how you

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Speaker 5: And then next thing you know, I'm like someone's throwing

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Speaker 5: has to be like I understand if you put fabulous

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Speaker 5: anything that's going to be I don't want any people

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Speaker 5: So I hope it makes it to the air. I

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Speaker 5: sure my publicist is saying, stop talking.

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Speaker 1: But well, we don't want to get you in trouble.

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Speaker 4: But it's just it is what it is. Truth.

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Speaker 5: I filmed something. I hope people get to see it.

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Speaker 3: Fabulous, Well so don't get to see it. We'll do

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So Roxie, when you were on your first season,

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Speaker 1: for it for recovery. But tell me about like were

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Speaker 5: Whoa, it's such like a big like, first of all,

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Speaker 5: I go to Galla's, everyone's a size zero and everyone

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Speaker 5: And I actually in that moment it was like I had.

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Speaker 5: It was like she had like daggers to my heart,

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Speaker 5: Like I understand that it was such a shameful thing

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Speaker 3: That is so completely messed up, Like I am trying

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Speaker 5: I said, I'm not plus size, I'm my size and

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Speaker 4: Like this is my size. You don't get to put me.

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Speaker 5: I just had like a split second to decide to

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Speaker 4: My body, this is my story. I'm gonna own this well.

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Speaker 5: I can't even tell you. Like it was like that

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Speaker 4: I was like, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't want women to experience the shame I feel when

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Speaker 5: going to make sure that women didn't have that same

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Speaker 5: Like, I need to do this, here's my vision. And

446
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 5: I and it really really did well, and so many

447
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,239
Speaker 5: amazing collections, swimwhear everything. But what was interesting is like

448
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 5: I was I stepped into it, but I was also

449
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 5: like figuring it out on my own, like I was

450
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 5: stepping into my confidence weirdly with the shared experience with

451
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 5: the audience and with the viewers and social media, like

452
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 5: I was going through it with them. I was trying

453
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 5: on Jeanes that I'd never worn before. I was discovering

454
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 5: clothes that would actually fit me in brands I was designing,

455
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 5: and I was having moments that were all they shared

456
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 5: these moments. So I was like, I have a wedding

457
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 5: coming out. I need something like red black tie to wear.

458
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 5: Can't find a dress that fits a size twelve anywhere

459
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 5: the time, twelve was huge, and so.

460
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 2: At twelve was huge, but I always think of twelve.

461
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: Well maybe not anymore, but like I just remember Oprah

462
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: saying once I would die to fit into a twelve.

463
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: She wheeled out the medium size.

464
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 5: So much has happened in a few years when it

465
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 5: comes to inclusivity, and so it was just crazy. And

466
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 5: then what was happening, which was this really kind of

467
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 5: dark other side of it was at home I was

468
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 5: with this like older finance guy who was not happy

469
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 5: to be known as the plus size girls.

470
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 4: Partner, and so my like, I wasn't technically.

471
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 5: Married, but I had a wedding and everything. So you know,

472
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 5: just anyways, this is we need a whole podcast for

473
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 5: that relationship.

474
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to dig in there, but I.

475
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 5: Had the full relationship and by all means, I was

476
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 5: very committed to it. And I just he was interested

477
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 5: in this young girl and this like trophy wife, and

478
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 5: my body was with all the travel and the stress

479
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 5: and the excitement and everything, I was eating a lot

480
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 5: to feel good and I was gaining weight. So it

481
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 5: was it was like I stepped into this role and

482
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 5: then also was gaining weight. And then at home, my

483
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 5: confidence was just being deteriorated because he hated my size

484
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 5: and he was like, you're fat, You're ugly, I won't

485
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 5: sleep with you. And I'm like having this private experience

486
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 5: of sh like all this shame and low self esteem.

487
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 5: And then on the next day, I'm waking up and

488
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 5: getting into a swimsuit I designed with a bunch of

489
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 5: models I picked who all have bodies that look like

490
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 5: something I can identify with. And then literally shooting a

491
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 5: campaign that's going to be on a billboard talking about confidence.

492
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't work when your life's not in sync

493
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: like that. What happened?

494
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 4: When you talk about what was the experience?

495
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 5: It's been such a journey in this time since I've

496
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 5: done the show, I've put on weight. I've now lost

497
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 5: sixty pounds in a very hodiful way. I had two children,

498
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 5: I got remarried, I fell in love, I built an app,

499
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 5: I built a company, and it's all just happened out

500
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 5: of just letting go of all the toxicity and just

501
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 5: being fully.

502
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: Confident in who I am.

503
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 5: And now my body is a beautiful twelve again, and

504
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 5: I'm happy and I own every aspect of who I am.

505
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 5: And along the way, thousands and thousands and thousands of

506
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 5: women have felt a sense of empowerment.

507
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 4: So it's been this weird journey. I love that.

508
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: Can I go back to the show for one second.

509
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: I just have a question, two questions, Why was it canceled?

510
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: And also were you devastated when it was canceled.

511
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 5: I really wanted it to come back because it felt

512
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 5: like my only lifeline at the moment when I did

513
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 5: the show, and the show came out.

514
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: It was like I knew it was my out if

515
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 4: that makes sense from the relationship that I was in.

516
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 5: So I was I had this like high flying career

517
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 5: when I was young, living all over the world working

518
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 5: and advertising for American Express, and I was like, I

519
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 5: had a pretty big career. And then this guy was like,

520
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 5: I don't want you to work, and he's like, it

521
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 5: makes more sense for you to travel with me and

522
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 5: be with me, and you don't need money.

523
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 3: So where's this guy now? I just have to know.

524
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: I feel like he's a villain character and like Bonfire

525
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: the Vanities, not a bad.

526
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 5: Person, but he was suffering from a lot of addiction

527
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 5: and a lot of things that made.

528
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 4: Him do some very mean and cruel things.

529
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: But I don't very magnanimous of you.

530
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 5: Wow, it wasn't for that journey, I would have never

531
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 5: ended up with my husband. My husband is literally he

532
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 5: was the tax on this beautiful love I have. Now

533
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 5: I have beautiful times with him, but there were some

534
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 5: very toxic times.

535
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: But he made me into this powerful.

536
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 5: Woman that I was a bit of already, but it

537
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 5: just magnified.

538
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: So I thank him.

539
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: Wow, that's very evolved. I still curse all my ex boyfriends.

540
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 5: No, I really am grateful that I went through experiences

541
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 5: that taught me what love is supposed to look like,

542
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 5: what life, How I can live life like.

543
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 4: I learned a lot and it brought me to my

544
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 4: now husband.

545
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 5: And so I if I go back to the show

546
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 5: at that moment that no one ever canceled us.

547
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 4: It wasn't like you're canceled. It's like they put us

548
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 4: on hold.

549
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 5: And I was like, when does the whole end? Do

550
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 5: I start shopping for next season? Do I start like

551
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 5: getting ready, like I mean limbo? And so I was

552
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 5: in limbo for a long time and very attached to

553
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 5: the idea because it felt like my only way out.

554
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 1: Did the other ladies feel like that too, Like they

555
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: were just waiting and waiting and waiting.

556
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 5: And everyone kept on waiting and waiting and waiting and saying.

557
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh, when did you guys like stop waiting?

558
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: One day, I just stopped waiting.

559
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 5: It was like a relationship, you know, it's like a

560
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 5: weird relationship.

561
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 4: I just stopped waiting one day.

562
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: I was like this, people are never calling me, like

563
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 5: I don't know what's happening. And we had a lot

564
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 5: of complications with our cast.

565
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 4: Let's say, how do we say that?

566
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: Just like that? I think that's a perfect way of

567
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: putting it. Only you guys, with our listeners, I'm sure

568
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: we as well know we have an inkling about what

569
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 3: you're talking about. We know what complications.

570
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 5: Let's say this in the world of housewives, it's great

571
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 5: for drama, juicy the women who have no self awareness,

572
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 5: they make great TV.

573
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 4: But the drama can't be drama.

574
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: That actually interferes with you making a TV show, right

575
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 5: exactly same like it's supposed to still be fun, ladies,

576
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 5: and when it goes too far, it's and you have

577
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 5: like all of this stuff happening in people's private lives

578
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: that is like from the show, but now it's happening

579
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 5: off screen.

580
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: That's not useful for producers. And so when you have

581
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: all of these things going on.

582
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 5: In the background that are insane, it makes it difficult

583
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 5: for producers to make a TV show, which at the

584
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: end of the day, you need people to show up

585
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 5: and start filming a TV show.

586
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 4: You're like, where are you?

587
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 5: Because I hate her and I'm doing her and it's like,

588
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 5: well wait, what so.

589
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? And please if I'm overstepping,

590
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: you do not have to answer. But being somebody who's

591
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: body positive and I come from a world where I

592
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: used to be much thinner than I am now I

593
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: am not considered like overweight, but I definitely feel the

594
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: way game. How what do you ever get tempted by

595
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: the all the new diet drugs, especially now that you're

596
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: going to be back on TV.

597
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?

598
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, how could you not be tempted? It's like,

599
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 5: but also I want to like release this shame about.

600
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: This, Like, no, no shame about it, just question.

601
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 5: Even Okay for me, I've had a really complex journey

602
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 5: with food and loving my body and falling.

603
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 4: In love with myself.

604
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: Welcome me.

605
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 4: I had to do this my way.

606
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 5: I had to do this in a way that was sustainable,

607
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: and that was about my health and my relationship with food.

608
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: And I've spent years doing that.

609
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 5: And I really am at a point where I feel

610
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 5: incredible and healthy. I birthed two beautiful children in my

611
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 5: late thirties, Like it was, it's been a transformation that

612
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 5: everybody's watched. That being said, I courage every single human

613
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 5: being to do whatever they need to do to get healthy.

614
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 5: It's like really challenging food stuff, overeating, struggling with your way.

615
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: This stuff is hard to manage.

616
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: Yes, it is. You are preaching to the court, singing

617
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: to the court, preaching to schools that.

618
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 4: Are going to make you feel good.

619
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 5: Do it, and just don't look at other people and say, oh,

620
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 5: because she leads this life, it's easy for her, but

621
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 5: not for me. It's not easy. It's not easy for people.

622
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 5: But it's very tempting for people to look at someone's

623
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 5: life on social media and say, oh, well, because she's rich,

624
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 5: or she has a chef, or she has this.

625
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 4: I don't have a chef.

626
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 5: First of all, I have I run a startup, and

627
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 5: I have two babies.

628
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 4: I have a lot. I'm busy as well.

629
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: Are you getting that kind of backlash?

630
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: Are people being haters?

631
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 5: They're not haters, but they're like, well, it's easy for

632
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 5: you to say you lost the way, you have a trainer,

633
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: you have this, and.

634
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, not easy.

635
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 5: Period a single morning after not sleeping with a newborn

636
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 5: and worked out. I worked out till the day before

637
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: I gave birth. I've been watching to eat, like, so,

638
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: don't look at other people's lives and say oh, because

639
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: it's them.

640
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: They can do it, but.

641
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: I can't do it.

642
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 4: That doesn't serve you.

643
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 5: My message to everyone is just take ownership of your

644
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 5: own health.

645
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: Don't blame anyone.

646
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: It is on you.

647
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: We all go through.

648
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 5: Bad things, a lot of people are victims of horrible stuff.

649
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 5: That doesn't mean that you can't take control of your life.

650
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

651
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: So that's when I say, with that, does that answer it? Yeah? Yeah,

652
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: for sure.

653
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's basically everybody has to do what's

654
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: right for their own life.

655
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 5: And if you're tempted, explore it, talk about it with

656
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 5: your doctor. It might be great for you. I would

657
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 5: one hundred percent be I tell everyone I would be

658
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 5: open with doing anything. I want to do all the

659
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 5: things to be the best, and I'm not going to experience.

660
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: Any shame around them. And I think that's the weird

661
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: part is people being like and I'm like what, And I'm.

662
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: Like, oh.

663
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: My god.

664
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: You know it's changed already just in the short amount

665
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: of time.

666
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: Whispering about it.

667
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: I'd be telling you it's like when you got a

668
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 5: great new skincare serum.

669
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: Friends not high at Yeah.

670
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: Well, in the very short time that ozempic and and

671
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: drugs like ozempic have been around. I think there's been

672
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: such a shift in the way that people do view them,

673
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of that is because of

674
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: the fact that people are open. I think that that's

675
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: happened with things like plastic surgery. I think that the

676
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: more people are open about it, the less shame there is,

677
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: and every the attitude becomes whatever it is that makes

678
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: you happy, that makes you feel good. I mean that's

679
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: I've always been very open about all of those whatever

680
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: process or procedure I'm trying because like you, it's like

681
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: I like to share it. If it's making me feel good.

682
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: Who knows, maybe it'll make you feel good. But I

683
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: feel like there's the stigma has dropped out a little bit.

684
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: Although I have to be fully authentic, I'm not one

685
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: hundred percent on the everybody do what works for you thing.

686
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: I think there does need to be some more regulation

687
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: around who gets access to these kinds of drugs because

688
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: I think that if we encourage people who only have

689
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: five ten pounds to lose to go on these drugs,

690
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: and then you're stuck on them because when you come off,

691
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: you gain it back. You set people off on a

692
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: cycle of eating disorders and disordered eatings that I have

693
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: a vested in just in not seeing masses of people

694
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: journey into So I do think there needs to be

695
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: more regulation. And I don't stand behind people who don't

696
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: need the drugs going on them.

697
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, like with a totally different lens, right, But I

698
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 5: would say to I answer your question the most honestly

699
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 5: I can. I don't know anyone who has struggled with

700
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 5: weight their whole life who isn't tempted by all of

701
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 5: these being bombarded by all the born afters of Look.

702
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: How amazing miracle.

703
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 5: But I have learned in every aspect of my life

704
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 5: that there is no miracle answer for anything.

705
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, put in the hard work in everything.

706
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 5: That is the only way true, good, solid, long lasting

707
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 5: things are built. It is in relationships in your body.

708
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

709
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of which, speaking of work that you put in,

710
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: tell us about your app please.

711
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, this is another beautiful journey on our fertility app.

712
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 5: So my husband, who's this incredible fertility doctor, doctor Arnold,

713
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 5: he has a practice here in Beaveraly Hills now, and

714
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 5: when what was happening is all, first of all, everybody

715
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 5: wanted to see him and not everybody can see him

716
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: because he's in one place.

717
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: And so that combined with.

718
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 5: Our own journey of me being told before I met

719
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 5: Arnold that I would need IVS and I went to

720
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: two fancy doctors in California and they both said, you're

721
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: gonna need IVF, and I just so happened to fall

722
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: in love with the fertility doctor.

723
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 4: Ah oh, I love that. It was just like it

724
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 4: was perfect.

725
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 5: And I said to him almost like I think it

726
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 5: was our first date. I was like, well, I've been

727
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 5: told I need IVF and he was like, okay, well wait.

728
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: Were you Were you trying to get pregnant at the

729
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 2: time with your eggs? Oh, so you to see what

730
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: your fertility status was.

731
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 5: I wanted to freeze my eggs, oh got it, okay,

732
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 5: because I knew I wasn't having a baby anytime soon.

733
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: Yes, okay.

734
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: He had promised we would have kids for years and

735
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 5: years and years, and't it it just never Well, good thing,

736
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 5: thank god, And.

737
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 4: So I wanted to freeze my eggs.

738
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 5: I went to these doctors in California and both of

739
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 5: them are like, well, yeah, you're gonna need to freeze

740
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 5: your eggs and you're going to need to do IVF.

741
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: So it's a good thing you're here.

742
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 5: And I was very it's a big thing to carry

743
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 5: as a woman, and so when I was single, like,

744
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 5: that's a lot to carry on your shoulders. And so

745
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 5: I just so happened to fall in love with the

746
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: fertility doctor.

747
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: I'm telling him this story.

748
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: And so when we wanted when we were ready for children,

749
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 5: we he was like, before we do any IVF, first

750
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 5: of all, we're going to like make some changes. And

751
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 5: he really helped me like transform some lifestyle things, some diets,

752
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 5: some supplements. We started using like proper tracking. Most trackers

753
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 5: in apps are not accurate, so we were tracking my

754
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 5: ovulation correctly and low on behold, I got pregnant at

755
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 5: thirty eight naturally, and then I get up thirty nine naturally.

756
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

757
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: And a lot of people.

758
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 5: Were interested in the story in our journey, and so

759
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 5: we turned his program into an app called on a Fertility,

760
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: which allows people to get pregnant at home. And what

761
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 5: it does is in the US, especially if you walk

762
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 5: into a fertility clinic to get advice about your fertility,

763
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 5: you're going to be sold IVF or you're going to

764
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: be sold egg freezing. It's like walking into a bakery

765
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 5: and not being sold bread, do you know what I mean?

766
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 5: And so IVF is like really over sold in this

767
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: country and we wanted to change that because not everybody

768
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: needs it. There is a lot of data around the

769
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 5: fact that a lot of people who are getting it

770
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 5: are getting it who would have otherwise got pregnant if

771
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 5: they made small changes in their life. Wow, well you

772
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: can do at home. We've done a lot of research

773
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: on this ourselves and done a lot of studies.

774
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: And I went through five rounds of IVF myself, so

775
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: I know, but I destroyed my fertility with my anorexia.

776
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: But so I think this is so useful and so

777
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: important because it is so texting on your body and

778
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: your mental health, your physical health.

779
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: It's really really difficult. Oh it's so expensive.

780
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: And you tell us, like one thing that you you

781
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: can suggest that's not you know, under the umbrella of

782
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: IVF that is helpful in terms of fertility, Like what

783
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: do you what is one of the things that you got.

784
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: Download anestly.

785
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: Download our app on a because what it does is

786
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 5: it takes you through all the aspects.

787
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: It's like it has you.

788
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 5: It's like linked to your wearable if you're using a

789
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 5: wearable and like tracking your your movement, your basal body temperature.

790
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 5: It talks about nutrition, about the types of workouts you

791
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 5: should be doing, a different types of your cycle. Our

792
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 5: hormone horoscopes tells you the kinds of things that you

793
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 5: need to be consuming and doing. We also have a

794
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 5: mental health piece for it, because stress is a huge

795
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 5: impact on fertility, and it's a craftful experience. So there's

796
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 5: like daily think, daily pump ups and meditations that you're

797
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 5: doing to keep your body calm, your mind calm.

798
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: Also it is.

799
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 5: Does this medical diagnostics that you go through and then

800
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 5: gives you a personalized recommendation of what supplements you should

801
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 5: be taking. And then it says here's the different supplements.

802
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 5: Take these different things, and then it can even send

803
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 5: you the medication to your house if you do need

804
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: a little bit of medication. But all of that and

805
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 5: you can chat directly with the fertility doctor who is

806
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 5: my husband, doctor Arnold, And so it's like for all

807
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: of the patients who can't see this doctor in Beverly Hills,

808
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 5: you have access to what he would do if you

809
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 5: sack down in front of him in your first visit

810
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 5: before you get to iv He has a lot of

811
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 5: incredible patients who need IVF and for them it's a miracle.

812
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 2: How did you know how to start an app?

813
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if I can't even turn on

814
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: my TV half the time, how did you know how

815
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: to start an app?

816
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 4: Maybe? I built companies.

817
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: That's what I do. Business nice, crazy.

818
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: I all developers learned the business, built out the medical

819
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 5: diagnostic tools with Arnold, got to know what our patients

820
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 5: really needed and wanted. We studied them, built something amazing

821
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 5: and wonderful stories have come out of it. And we

822
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: then launched in Canada and lots of people were using

823
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 5: it and people are getting pregnant and so literally this

824
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 5: week we launch in the US.

825
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm happy that it's amazing. I'm feeling both inspired

826
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: and wildly under accomplished straight now.

827
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 5: Well, it's very important to give access to care, like

828
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 5: the medical space is so gated, and I just so

829
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 5: happy and to have this incredible doctor with me who

830
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 5: told me what to do. If I didn't have him,

831
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 5: I would have gone back to that fertility clinic. Spent

832
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 5: thirty thousand dollars a pop on IVF, had a lot

833
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: of trauma from that to my body and you know,

834
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 5: my mind and gone through that whole process, and it

835
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 5: would have been totally unnecessary.

836
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: We had interviewed a while back Maria Minunos, and she

837
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 3: has had quite a bit of you know, health struggle

838
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: issues and scared, not just scared, she's dealing with a lot,

839
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: but so she has not just taken the traditional approach.

840
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: She has also looked into methods that are really serving

841
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: her and she has she said, brain tumors and hype

842
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: one diabetes. But she said some things to us when

843
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 3: we spoke with her, just about like staring at the

844
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: sun and that can do in terms of you know,

845
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: we're always told to stay away from the sun anyway.

846
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm digressing, but I think it's always so

847
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: interesting to find people who have answers that are not

848
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 3: necessarily the ones that traditional medicine are providing.

849
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 5: You know, totally, we're very we're very intertwined with Chinese medicine,

850
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: nature past and if you follow Arnold Instagram is doctor

851
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: Arnold MD. He talks about a lot of these things

852
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 5: to do, but I'd say one big tip is inflammation.

853
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 5: Managing inflammation through diet is a real has a really

854
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 5: important impact on your fertility, on the state of your

855
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 5: uterine environment, on your ability to get pregnant, and he

856
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 5: has found that managing inflammation with his patients has been

857
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 5: the game changer for them.

858
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: Wow, you feel like you're done now or are you

859
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: going to put your app to use?

860
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: For number three?

861
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 5: I unfortunately got very sick when I gave birth to

862
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 5: my daughter.

863
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: Died, So wow, you've had interesting life.

864
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: Wow, it was really stressful.

865
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 5: I got sepsis and a rare case of it, and

866
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 5: I was in the ICU.

867
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: Oh right after birth.

868
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 5: And so after that they said I wouldn't be able

869
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 5: to have any more children, and I just sort of

870
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 5: thought that was like god sway of saying or our family,

871
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 5: You're comple.

872
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: Was did did anything transfer to your daughter during birth

873
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: or in utero?

874
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: No?

875
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: Thank God? And you're totally healthy. Fine, now everything great.

876
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 5: I've ever been like, definitely much with death as you.

877
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 5: If you weren't motivated to take care of your health

878
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 5: before you, I mean I was, but I was even

879
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 5: more like now, I'm like obsessed with health and wellness.

880
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: So you've got the You've got the fashion line, that's

881
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: where is that being sold in stores?

882
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: Where is that?

883
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: Where can people find that.

884
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 5: Oh, I honestly had done I think fifteen collections and

885
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 5: so I've just put it to rap because I'm so

886
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 5: busy with my fashion, with not my action line, with

887
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: the app, and so it was that's an all consuming thing.

888
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 5: And so I did my last collection about eight months.

889
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: Ago, and then I decided that I just.

890
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 5: Have to be fully focused on everything we're doing with Anna.

891
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: There's so much excitement.

892
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 5: And it's just where my interests, Like, you've got to

893
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 5: keep evolving creatively, and that's just where my interests were

894
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 5: right now.

895
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: Well, I'll bet you if Toronto, when Toronto comes back

896
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: and people look at you and your style and what

897
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: you've got going on, I bet You're going to get

898
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: some requests to bring back I'll ask.

899
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: But the thing is is that I everyone's like, why

900
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 5: if your left collection sold out, Like, why wouldn't you

901
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 5: do it again? And I was like, because I need

902
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: to keep evolving of what is.

903
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: Inspiring me in this moment.

904
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 5: Like I had a lot of ideas that I really

905
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: wanted to get out in fashion.

906
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 4: I got those out and now I'm like obsessed with

907
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: everything that's happening in.

908
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 5: Fertility and wellness and women women's health, and like, the

909
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 5: more I learn about it, the more I understand that

910
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 5: it's so many gatekeepers, it's not accessible to so many women.

911
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 5: And I was like, the whole reason for the fashion

912
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 5: line was to have an impact on someone who wasn't

913
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 5: able to get something that would fit them.

914
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 4: Like it started. I'm obsessed with fashion.

915
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 5: I love fashion, but it started because I wanted to

916
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 5: help change a moment in their life where they felt

917
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 5: shame or where they would literally miss a wedding because

918
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 5: they didn't have something to wear. That's where that started.

919
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 5: And so my goal of empowering and inspiring women is

920
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 5: just keeps evolving.

921
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 4: And this is where it's brought me now.

922
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: I love that. Can I just tell you what I

923
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: so relate to that because and I know it was

924
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: a really long time ago, but I was very overweight

925
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: in high school and I wrote a book and I

926
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: wrote about this in my book that I had a

927
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: really hard time with the whole prom dress shopping because

928
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: everyone in high school, all the stores in the wall

929
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: are catered to women being like, at the most a

930
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: size eight, and I couldn't find a dress. And I

931
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: would watch all of the other seventeen eighteen year olds

932
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: buying these tiny little dresses, and I would go into

933
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: stores and absolutely nothing would fit me, and I had

934
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: to have something made, and like the dry cleaner made

935
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: something from my mom found someone to make me a

936
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: dress and it was a mess and it was just

937
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: like one long piece of felt.

938
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: And I honestly felt so awful at my prom.

939
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: And the whole experience of shopping when nothing fits you

940
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: is unless you've been through it, it is so draining

941
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: and amiliating and exhausting, and so I like applaud you.

942
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 3: I was in high school and with my best friend

943
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: shopping and there was nothing, and she said to me

944
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: in a dressing room, maybe we should go over to

945
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: She was very like Lane Bryant or and I remember

946
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: being so insulted. Yeah, and it was the truth. There

947
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: was nothing to fit me. I needed to go to

948
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: Lane Bryant. But I was if you guys listeners, that's

949
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: like a plus size store. Is it still around? I

950
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: think it is.

951
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: I think it is.

952
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: There was a store in my wall called five seven nine.

953
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: Did you know about that?

954
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: So?

955
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: Did they have that in Canada? Oh my god, what

956
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: a disaster.

957
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: It was like basically to like the sizes five seven nine,

958
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: but they weren't five seven nine. Everything was like a

959
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: size zero two or a four and four was the

960
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: biggest you could get, and like to even have a

961
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: store like that.

962
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: It was so humiliating to somebody.

963
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: Andy Melville is like that, I think, yeah, it's hard.

964
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 5: I think it was an interesting space to be in.

965
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 5: I loved it, but I did it at a time

966
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 5: when no one was doing it, and I was very

967
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 5: proud of all the work that I've done. But now

968
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 5: I feel like there are choices, and so I'm on

969
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 5: to conquer and disrupt.

970
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: The next industry. I love that you have to just

971
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: and everyone's like.

972
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 5: But we want anything suits and I was like, I know, okay,

973
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 5: just wait for me to retire and then I'll do

974
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 5: a resort.

975
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: We're alyve like, I just can't right now. I can't

976
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: do everything.

977
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: So when you have time, you have time to be

978
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: a mom and do the app and film the show.

979
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I can't also then also run my clothing

980
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 5: line right afore.

981
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I have to chick and choose.

982
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: I have to, and why not leave when something successful

983
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 5: before it ends up on like the sales rack and

984
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 5: the outlet for you.

985
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: I love that well, I love that we're interviewing you

986
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: during like International Women's Month because you're so inspiring and

987
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for women like you in the world because

988
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: you put a lot of good into the world.

989
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: And you guys, you guys are thank you and.

990
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 4: Entertaining people don't. Don't.

991
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 5: Let's not that we're entertainers and we're people's escape when

992
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: they're sitting at home.

993
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 4: They're like, we just I loved watching you.

994
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 5: It's like a mom from your own life that you

995
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 5: just get to like to be in someone else's world.

996
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and for sure that like the Housewives, Past Housewives,

997
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: kind Housewives, anyone who's ever been.

998
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: A housewife or on these shows.

999
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: It's almost like you know what each other is going through,

1000
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: even if you don't love each other like a sorority.

1001
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: It truly is you have something that a few people understand.

1002
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: But I've met.

1003
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 5: Girls from actually met girls from your show, and I've

1004
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 5: met girls from other New York shows, let's say, and there.

1005
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 5: I remember like Ramona turns to me and I better

1006
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 5: week and I was like, oh, I'm in the real

1007
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 5: houses at Toronto.

1008
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: She's like, I've never heard of that.

1009
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 5: And I was like, so it sounds like her like

1010
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: how many seasons did you know? And I was like, oh,

1011
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 5: I've just done one season. She was like, I've done

1012
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: like twenty or I don't know when I don't have any.

1013
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: That was part of it, I have to say, And

1014
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: only Ramona Ramona's case, could that be part of the charm?

1015
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1016
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. Only she could pull up.

1017
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 3: Maybe not for you in that moment, but she was

1018
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 3: when you say, no self awareness, like that's Ramona.

1019
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 5: But and we were like show and I was already

1020
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 5: self conscious because I was like the plus size one

1021
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 5: at the show. And I don't know that's my own issue.

1022
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 5: But it was just like not all, not all of

1023
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 5: the women are like, oh, you're not in my sorority, honey,

1024
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 5: Oh well.

1025
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: You're in our sorority. And when the show comes back,

1026
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: Jen and I would would love to fly to Toronto

1027
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: to be at the premiere party.

1028
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: Well let's I.

1029
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 5: Mean, I don't know that the next tomorrow there's gonna

1030
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: be like a there's gonna be an article that Roxy.

1031
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: Says the show I did. I just for the.

1032
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 3: Record, I'm manifesting and I can't stand that one we're manifesting.

1033
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: I like that word.

1034
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: Yes, no confornimation. You could give me advice.

1035
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 5: You probably know better than me, like, how does it

1036
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 5: actually work?

1037
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 4: How long do they make you? Wait?

1038
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: That's Jackie, she knows way better than me.

1039
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: Do you actually hear? Like I actually wanted to know?

1040
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: You may be able a friend. It's all different.

1041
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got a six, it's all about money, right,

1042
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: So if the pilot gets advertising, then you're on.

1043
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: You know it'll be a go.

1044
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: But you know, it's all the TV world, Like sometimes

1045
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: I cancel things that I don't know, Like they just

1046
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: canceled VANDR Punk rolls right like the current cast and

1047
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: they were.

1048
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: Like killing it. So I don't know. Sometimes I don't

1049
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 2: know how it works.

1050
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 4: I don't know either.

1051
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 5: I don't know if any of us are going back

1052
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 5: to the house. I this is the answer, but they

1053
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 5: were all, you're going. Can someone let us all know,

1054
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 5: like a group email would be helpful.

1055
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and are going to try to make an

1056
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: app so we have something to do just exactly so

1057
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: I have.

1058
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 5: An app for you. I have a big I have

1059
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: some ideas.

1060
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: I have some idea a menopause menopause app.

1061
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a menopause I.

1062
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 5: Already built a menopause app and we'd use it privately

1063
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 5: with some of Arnold's menopause patients. And I think that's

1064
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 5: another space that has so much un known information.

1065
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: Like starting it's actually though it's starting to take off.

1066
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: I see a lot of menopause pages, a lot of

1067
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: like Tamson Fidal, who was a newscaster for a long time.

1068
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: She has created a whole sorority. How about we call

1069
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: it that of women who I know are dedicated to

1070
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: addressing menopause and talking about it out loud and again

1071
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 3: like taking a stigma of it, you know, and away.

1072
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: And so that's exciting.

1073
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 5: Think you've privately done that with our patients, and it's

1074
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 5: just for a few people.

1075
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 4: We just like testing ideas and stuff.

1076
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 5: But we are very very focused on We're very very

1077
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 5: focused on fertility right now because it's just it's sure lane,

1078
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 5: it's really important to manage right now. That's just a

1079
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 5: big enough business. It's in terms of like so many

1080
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 5: people without access, Like once I've conquered that, and I

1081
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 5: feel like I've successfully disrupted the industry. If people walk

1082
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 5: into a fertility clinic and on our immediately oversold IVF

1083
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 5: and people start trying things at home before they walk

1084
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 5: into a fertility doctor's office or before they start IVF.

1085
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 5: Then I feel like we've done a bit of our job.

1086
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 5: And then for all the amazing people who needed they

1087
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 5: see people like Arnold, who isn't one of these big clinics.

1088
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 4: He's just solo doctor doing great work.

1089
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 5: And so it's like how medicine was supposed to be,

1090
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Once those things have all returned,

1091
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 5: then maybe I can change my right but.

1092
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: That's my focus.

1093
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Well, you're super inspiring. I'm so glad we got a

1094
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: chance to meet you. I've loved talking to you.

1095
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 4: Same. Thank you, ladies.

1096
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 2: So where can people find you?

1097
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 5: My Instagram's luxurious Roxy. My husband's is doctor Arnold m Z.

1098
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: It's also a pleasure last name.

1099
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 4: His last name is Mahesen. Oh I how to pronounce it,

1100
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: So we just say doctor makes me love it.

1101
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: But we are really, really really hoping that we are

1102
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 3: going to see you on our TVs and not just

1103
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: our Instagram feeds.

1104
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: So YouTube back on.

1105
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 3: You appreciate that, We appreciate that.

1106
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe must.

1107
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 5: Start in summer because nobody is filming in New Jersey

1108
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 5: in the winter.

1109
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: Oh, we used to.

1110
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: We used to start in March every year, and they

1111
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: used to before I got on it seven years ago.

1112
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: They used to film over the holidays, and.

1113
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: I love getting Christmas.

1114
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 4: How do you bring the outfits in the snow? It's

1115
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 4: so much harder.

1116
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: There's not a ton of snow here. It's just bitter cold.

1117
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 5: Okay, because like I'm like in Stiletto's in a snowstorm.

1118
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, this isn't a look.

1119
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's well, the humidity is no joke either.

1120
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: In the summer.

1121
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: So you know, I've had many of the horrific I

1122
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: don't even want to call it a bad hair day.

1123
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: I'll call it a horrific hair day on the show.

1124
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: Okay.

1125
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 5: Well, if I start seeing really good GLAMs showing up

1126
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 5: on your Instagram's ladies come summer, and you know, your

1127
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 5: mouth to God's.

1128
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: Ear, it's like, thank you so much, thank you, Roxy,

1129
00:52:58,560 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: what a pleasure.

1130
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 4: With all of you, and sending you lots of love

1131
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: and good energy.

1132
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 5: To you to you as well, Okay. By my sorority sisters,

1133
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 5: My sister