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Speaker 1: As a late fifteen to ten touchdown Sacers.

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Speaker 2: What a day. Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly, as always, joined by Matt Mooney Smith, Taping

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Speaker 2: this late Thursday night, hours after the Jim Harball introductory

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Speaker 2: press conference. Buddy, it was a landmark day in Chargers history,

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Speaker 2: specifically here in Los Angeles. With a personality as large

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Speaker 2: as Jim Harball, you had to go big. The Charge

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Speaker 2: went big at YouTube Theater and what a spectacle it

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Speaker 2: was for an hour plus and I know you spoke

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Speaker 2: to Jim on fetch you some money afterwards.

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Speaker 1: We did, yeah, which is why we're doing this. Late

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Speaker 1: had a three to seven radio show and Coach was

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Speaker 1: kind enough to give us about fifteen minutes in the

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Speaker 1: three o'clock hour, and he was great. And we used

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Speaker 1: to talk to Coach quite regularly when he was at Stanford.

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Speaker 1: He would come on a lot recognized and this is

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Speaker 1: someone who understands availability and opportunity. And you know, we

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Speaker 1: have a pretty popular show here in southern California, and

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Speaker 1: he used us as a recruiting tool and we used,

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Speaker 1: you know, him as an entertaining guest. And so thankfully

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Speaker 1: it kind of I think remembered that and so to

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Speaker 1: remember talking to us, We had a great time. And

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Speaker 1: that's I think you saw that in the presser, you

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Speaker 1: know that when John Spanos got up there and said

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Speaker 1: he remembered a conversation they had twenty some years ago

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Speaker 1: when coaches at San Diego, and I think that's there

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Speaker 1: is something to that. There is something to recognizing, and

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this, recognizing that there are so many

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Speaker 1: opportunities around you and somebody's title or station in life

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Speaker 1: may not represent the opportunity that they present to helping

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Speaker 1: you better yourself or your situation. And certainly coach seems

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Speaker 1: to be somebody that is very cognizant of that. Hence

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Speaker 1: his recollection of John simply telling him that he thought

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Speaker 1: he ran great practice and that that meant a lot

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Speaker 1: to him, because nobody in the NFL or in the

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Speaker 1: pro you know, circles, had ever said that to him.

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Speaker 1: So I think that just one little moment spoke to

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Speaker 1: kind of what, you know, how he's wired and why

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Speaker 1: why players play so hard for him, and that's really

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Speaker 1: what separates him from so many other coaches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, money walking into that YouTube theater this morning,

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Speaker 2: seeing the harboisms everywhere. It just felt like just something

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Speaker 2: completely new and different and exciting for the Chargers organization

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Speaker 2: and the fans. And there's so many moments throughout the

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Speaker 2: press conference. I'm sure we can put our heads together

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Speaker 2: and knock most of them out.

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Speaker 1: There was just just.

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Speaker 2: Funny, funny things, and I think things that get you

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Speaker 2: hyped up. I especially thought that the Dean span Us,

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Speaker 2: the owner Dean span Us, right from the beginning of

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Speaker 2: explaining the process and why Jim Harbaugh is here today

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Speaker 2: and how happy he is for Chargers fans and basically

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Speaker 2: telling Jim, whatever you need, whatever resource that will require

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Speaker 2: us to win, We're going to provide you. And you

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Speaker 2: can tell that Jim has a personal connection with the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: He mentioned all the stops that he's had and there's

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Speaker 2: always been a personal connection. He referenced the Spanos. Obviously

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Speaker 2: playing for the San Diego Chargers met a great deal

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Speaker 2: to him, and it just seems like the stars aligned,

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Speaker 2: and just throughout that hour press conference that you could

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Speaker 2: right place for him to do what he ultimately wants

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Speaker 2: to do, and that's bringing Lombardi to Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Look, the Chargers two most disappointing seasons in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: have produced superstars, you know, the one pretty justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: with the sixth overall pick, and this five and twelve

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Speaker 1: season produced you know, Jim Harbaugh, and you know a

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Speaker 1: happy that Brandon Staley failed. You know, we would have

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Speaker 1: amount of money that the Spanos has spent, the amount

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Speaker 1: of effort that the players put into it, oh much rather,

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Speaker 1: you know, been talking about a playoff run and here

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Speaker 1: I've been in this market doing radio since nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 1: and it's the most impressive press conference I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: That was pretty incredible because Jerry West is simply the

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Speaker 1: with a lot of you know, you wrote this book

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Speaker 1: and you trashed Kobe. There was a lot of that,

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Speaker 1: all that up with Jim Harba is a superstar. He

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Speaker 1: know the championships don't number the same, But when Joe

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Speaker 1: It was panned as a higher When he was first

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Speaker 1: So here is someone coming off a national championship who

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Speaker 1: the ability to have these sayings, these harbiisms plastered all

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Speaker 1: you know, relatables, acknowledging his family and how important they've

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Speaker 1: been through this whole process. There's just so much to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the brand, right, He's the brand, and everybody's

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Speaker 2: the team. And he stressed team, team, team, and you know, Buddy,

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Speaker 2: I think one of my favorite parts was the beginning

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Speaker 2: that just kind of set the tone for what Jim

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Speaker 2: fan base. Like I swear, I felt like today was

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Speaker 2: has kind of morphed into and where this team is

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Speaker 2: going under this head coach. Now, you know, there's a

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Speaker 2: You know, you always kind of look for tells and

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Speaker 2: mentioned Rashaun Slater. I think he said he met Trey

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Speaker 2: So like that those are the only players that I

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Speaker 2: think that he mentioned. But he said he contacted everybody

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Speaker 2: that he and Jim are going to have. Another one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite sayings was just like, hey, during the

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Speaker 2: consider the type of players that Ortiz has scouted based

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Speaker 2: another piece to this puzzle. We'll hear more from Joe

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday, but today was Jim's day.

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Speaker 1: Look, there's I don't know how much you want to

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Speaker 1: it did seem like it was a little more stream

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Speaker 1: It wasn't I've got I've got my goals, and I've

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Speaker 1: got my checklists, and you know it's it's look, it's

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Speaker 1: the Tony Robbins school of motivational speaking that when you

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Speaker 1: say someone's name back to them, they feel more important.

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Speaker 1: And we see that regularly, and I find it to

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Speaker 1: You know, they're the ones that have been here for

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Speaker 1: Why does it? You have to football players are tough?

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Speaker 1: The idea when people are like, oh he's sawt No,

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Speaker 1: looks like, it's a car crash after every game. We

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Speaker 1: How does he do it? And I think you saw

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Speaker 1: so much of that in the press conference today. I'm responsible.

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Speaker 1: I need to be responsible for Justin Herbert. He's putting

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Speaker 1: can be. And that's how it works. Now. It's like

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Speaker 1: drafted in eighty four and the rest is history. Becomes

428
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Speaker 1: the number two team in town, and for a while

429
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Speaker 1: they're number one team in town, ahead of the Bears.

430
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Speaker 1: The other one is the Patriots. They were moving to

431
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Speaker 1: Saint Louis. They were moving to Saint Louis. Victor Caiam

432
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: had them sold to a group that was headed up

433
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: by Walter Payton. It's why he retired early, and he

434
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: was taking that team to replace the Cardinals after they

435
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: left for Arizona. In Saint Louis. It was done. That

436
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: is how much of an afterthought that franchise was in

437
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: a Red Sox Celtics town. They could not survive, but

438
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: clausing the contract allowed Robert Kraft to match any deal

439
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: and Bajollette Stadium. He did it. He hires, you know,

440
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: Bill Parcells, gets the Drew Bledsoe thing going. After that,

441
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: he brings in Bill Belichick goes next, and even then

442
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: they were like, eh, still the Patriots, you know, but

443
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: then you get Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are where

444
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: do they fit? You know, where are they? And you

445
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: talk to Boston sports fans, I can promise you if

446
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: they're under the age of thirty five, they're probably number one.

447
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: It can happen. I know it's a Laker and a

448
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: Dodger Ton. I totally know that. And it sounds foolish

449
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: to think the Chargers could possibly dig into that type

450
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: of fan base. Generational fan bases with so many championships.

451
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: But like, that's why it was such a like that's

452
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Speaker 1: one of the things about the pressor that was so

453
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 1: impressive is he knows, like he gets it. He's not

454
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: saying he's going to get a Super He's like, in

455
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: this town, you got to win more than one. Like,

456
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: we have to win multiple Super Bowls. He knows, he

457
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: gets it. One's not gonna do it. We know it.

458
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: Look at the Rams, they won one and people stopped

459
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: caring the next year. No, you need to win multiple.

460
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Speaker 1: You need to build a juggernaut. You need to build

461
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know, to be able to crack and

462
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: into what is an almost impenetrable wall that is the

463
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Speaker 1: Lakers and Dodgers. And I think he recognizes that. He

464
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Speaker 1: feels like he's got the horse to do it with,

465
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Speaker 1: and justin Herbert and the ownership to back him up

466
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Speaker 1: with everything they're they're you know, with all the stuff

467
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: that they're investing in right now, and I think he

468
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: sees that. I would be very surprised. He played for

469
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Speaker 1: the Bears, you know, in the nineties, right at the

470
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Speaker 1: peak of the Bulls. He was there right as their

471
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Speaker 1: ascension began. He was the Bears quarterback in nineteen ninety

472
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Speaker 1: ninety one when they when they won that first one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually I'm almost done with the Wickersham book.

474
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: It's better to be feared about just the Patriots dynasty. Yeah,

475
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: and how you alluded to the fact that that team

476
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: a almost got moved and when Kraft bought the team,

477
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: you know he had he brought in Pete Carroll. He

478
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 2: really won a Belichick. He took a flyer on Belichick,

479
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: who you know was like almost like radioactive in coaching

480
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: circles because of what happened in Cleveland. And then you know,

481
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: they draft Tom Brady and the and the rest is history.

482
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: You win three super Bowls. Off the top, you have

483
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: what I still think is the greatest team in NFL

484
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: history of the team that lost to the Giants in

485
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 2: Super Bowl forty two. I mean, but the fact that

486
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Speaker 2: it can change with a coach and a quarterback, and

487
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: that leads me to the quarterback who he called the

488
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: crown Jewel, and I think the relationship that they have money.

489
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Speaker 2: The biggest winner today was Justin Herbert. You know the

490
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: fact that this guy is gonna be his head coach

491
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: and Justin is not gonna have that pressure to just

492
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: be the guy for everybody in this organization. It's gonna

493
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: be that's gonna be on Jim Harbaugh's shoulders, and he

494
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: wants it on his shoulders. What what Justin and Jim

495
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: Harbaugh can do together and how he can protect Justin Herbert.

496
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: He talked about a physical offensive line, protecting the quarterback,

497
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: having a solid running game. I mean, these are things

498
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: that we have not been used to seeing around the

499
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: charges of the last few years. How they shape this offense,

500
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: how they pack a running game, and how they i

501
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: think develop a physical, tough offensive line. We're gonna probably

502
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: see that take shape during free agency, obviously, the draft,

503
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: and just further developing the guys on this roster.

504
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: Man to yeah, to me, there's there's a few hints

505
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: in there right for the upcoming draft and how you're

506
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: gonna build this team. You know, He pointed out that

507
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: it's the only position that everybody else is dependent on

508
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line. The offensive line can't protect your quarterback.

509
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: Quarterback can't operate, running backs can't find holes to run through.

510
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: Wide receivers aren't going to get into their routes and

511
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: be able to you know, have a pass thrown their way.

512
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: That's how the offensive line is that important. They make

513
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: the entire thing go. And then he pointed out, and

514
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: defense can't score, he can't win. So it's it's a

515
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that we alluded to, like, yeah, there's

516
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: going to be some impressive wide receivers sitting there at

517
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: five and brock Bowers is there, and you know, look,

518
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: they may go that direction, but it wouldn't to me,

519
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: like it's wouldn't surprise me if it's a tackle because

520
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: that offensive line, like it's where he said, it's where

521
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: it starts. We've got it. We got to protect that

522
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: guy because he touches the ball every single play. He

523
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Speaker 1: has got to be protected. Priority number one. Protect that guy.

524
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Speaker 1: Run the ball, to protect wide receivers blocked so the

525
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: running back can run the ball, so play action works

526
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: and he's protected. Offensive line has got to protect him.

527
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: So there's that and and defense, like I said, hey,

528
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: what he say. He said, it's not offense defense, special teams,

529
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Speaker 1: it's defense. That's what this is defense. And I think

530
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: that to me that set the tone of yeah, there's

531
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: some shiny toys there. There's brock Bauers, and there's roma Dunza,

532
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: and there's Malik Neighbors. But if you can't protect that guy,

533
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, with Joe Alt or one of these other tackles,

534
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, doesn't matter who

535
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: the back is, who the wide receiver is, because he's

536
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Speaker 1: not quarterbacks not protected. So that's where it all starts.

537
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: And I think that was and look, that's that's how

538
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: he won at Michigan, right, you know, by having the

539
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: best offensive line in the nation, by having the best

540
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: defense and then nation, and by wearing you down and

541
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: winning games on toughness and watching attrition take hold of

542
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: your opponent while you're able to thrive. It's it's excited.

543
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: It's not. It's it's not Lincoln Riley, spread them out,

544
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: throw it all over the place, score sixty points a game.

545
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: It's not Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh. It's much different, much different.

546
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: It is. It's submission, attrition, physicality. It's a it's I

547
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: think that's and I think it's exciting that that he's

548
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna you know that that he sees justin and that's

549
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: what his first thought is. It's not oh Wow, this

550
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: dude's got an incredible arm. And we got Keenan Allen

551
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: and all these toys and Quinton and I'm gonna go

552
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: get a receiver at five and he's gonna throw. No

553
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: guy needs to be protected. We got to protect that guy.

554
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: And that's his first thought. And I think that sort

555
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: of speaks to how he intends to play football.

556
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: And having having the fifth overall pick, the possibilities are

557
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: limitless in terms of trading back. You're hearing all the

558
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: You're hearing all these teams that want to move up

559
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: to get a quarterback. Right now, If if something happens

560
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 2: where Marvin Harrison and you know, a Donsa or another

561
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: player gets picked before five and there's a quarterback sitting

562
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: there at five for a team, who's to say that

563
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: this team doesn't trade back. Get that offensive lineman, get

564
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: that tight end, you know, and then you know, just

565
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: the player development aspect of this money with the guys

566
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: that are currently on the roster, like here in Quintin Johnson,

567
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: I kind of re energize going into his second year

568
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: thinking he can have a breakout year under Jim Harball.

569
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Speaker 2: I mean, those are the things that you want to

570
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: see the guys who were drafted last year that you know,

571
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: who knows if they were drafted for a specific type

572
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: of defense or a specific type of offense that they

573
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: that they were running under Brandon Staley can Jim Harball

574
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: and Ben Herbert and whoever the DC or the o

575
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: C is for this team can and they squeeze every

576
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: bit of potential out of the guys that are currently

577
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: on this roster. I think that that's something that you've

578
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: seen throughout Jim Harball's coaching career. It's just getting the

579
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: most out of the players on that roster. So, going

580
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 2: beyond free agency in the draft, the players that are

581
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: under contract here, the guys who were maybe undrafted free

582
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: agents or late round picks over the last couple of years,

583
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: can they develop into something that Jim Harball could be

584
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: proud of on either side of the football. And I

585
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: think the answer is yes.

586
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: You know, he's done it. He's done it at Michigan.

587
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: He did it at Stanford. You know, he put guys

588
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL at Stanford, you know, and he's putting

589
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: a lot of guys into the NFL at Michigan. And look,

590
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: it's Michigan. It's a blue blood. But that's why we've

591
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: talked about Stanford so much. It's just one of the

592
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: most incredible coaching jobs that you'll ever see because of

593
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: the type of institution it is, the grades you have

594
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: to have to get in there, the style of football

595
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: they got those kids to play, who you know, aren't

596
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to survive and change the fortune of

597
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: my family that that's you know, had generation after generation

598
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: of you know, no education, and we've been stuck in

599
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: this particular lot in life. And this is our opportunity

600
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: and my opportunity to pull on. It's not a lot

601
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: of those kids. It's four point five students that are

602
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: getting engineered Andrew Luck getting an architecture degree and going

603
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: out there and getting his head caved in on Saturdays

604
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: and being willing to submit to that like that's what

605
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: he created there. So like that's it's the developmental process

606
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: and creating JJ, you know, and helping to develop JJ

607
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: mccarthyen to a first round pick, Like it's that that's

608
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: and I think that's what you're speaking to, right that

609
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: just because you may have some preconceived notions about what

610
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: these players are because of the last two or three

611
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: years that they've been on this roster, that does not

612
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: mean that a new coaching staff can't help, you know,

613
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: turn players that had grades that saw them get drafted

614
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: in the third round, and if the Chargers didn't take them,

615
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: another team probably would. So much football is the ultimate

616
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: circumstance sport that so much of your success is predicated

617
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: on circumstance. What if Tom Brady wasn't drafted by the Patriots?

618
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: What if he was drafted in the sixth round by

619
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: another team that had no interest in giving him a

620
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: right to an open competition and a chance to show

621
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Speaker 1: that even though I got this sixth round grade and

622
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm not a very impressive, you know athlete, I'm still

623
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: going to be the best quarterback in the history. Like

624
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: it's circumstance. It's the fact that the Chargers were in

625
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs with a ten win team last year, had

626
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: a twenty seven to zhing lead on the Jaguars blew

627
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: it that led to a coach getting fired after an

628
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: unthinkable sixty three point output by a Raiders offense that

629
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: had scored zero the week before led to a firing,

630
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: And now we're sitting here talking about Jim Harball, Like

631
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: it's just it's such a weird sport that way that

632
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: that that so much hinges on the right people being

633
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: connected at the right time, and this just feels different.

634
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: It feels it feels like it's all lined up. And

635
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: what that means for Tuley and day On and who knows,

636
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Kenneth Murray even though they pick up his

637
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: fifth year option and coach, you know, if it's jesse

638
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: Minner saying, oh no, we can work with that, you know,

639
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: and and maybe j T. Woods, you know, A Lowe's

640
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: a free agent. Maybe there's something there. Guy had six

641
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: interceptions in a season. Let's figure it out. But you know,

642
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot to the look he said it right,

643
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: He's like, we got a lot of work to do.

644
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: We're going to be busy, and it's you know, starts

645
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: with the staff and don't know what it's going to

646
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: look like on the offensive side. Looks like defense is

647
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: Jesse Minner, we know what strength and conditioning is, not

648
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: sure about special teams. But that's you know, that's what's

649
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: going to get sorted out here in the next week

650
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: or two and and then next and you know, we'll

651
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: be out at the combine the end of February getting

652
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: excited about all those players as we get closer to

653
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: the to the draft, and you know, and then you

654
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: blink your eyes and it's it's April and we're in

655
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: the draft.

656
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: That's the thing, man, You know, Charges weekly, we do

657
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: this every Thursday all year round. We're always engaged, but

658
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: but this this part of the season just it means

659
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: that much more for for the fans of the Chargers too,

660
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: that you know, the combine when you have a top

661
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: five pick, a brand new coach, and a brand new

662
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: GM man, the combine is fun. Like it's the possibilities

663
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: and the talk about the team and what they're gonna

664
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: do with free agency and the possibilities at five or

665
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: early in the second round. I mean, we're gonna be

666
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: talking about so many things over the next couple of weeks,

667
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: this staff coming together, some of the decisions that they're

668
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: going to have to make from a cap perspective, you know,

669
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: looking at the free agents after the franchise, get all

670
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: hashed out, like who's a good fit for this defense,

671
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: the offensive line. I mean, it's gonna make this off

672
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: season so much fun, man, I know that. You know,

673
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: Jim went an hour today and he had like so

674
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: many fun little you know, anecdotes and stuff about his brother.

675
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: He was talking about his daughter has a mantra. The

676
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: whole Harball family has a matra.

677
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: Man.

678
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: It was just it was fun to listen to him.

679
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to touch on before

680
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: we say? You know, we've done two pods this week.

681
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: I think next week will be a big one in

682
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: terms of just seeing the staff and really kind of

683
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: digging in to what the identity is going to be

684
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: offensively and defensively and kind of the history of some

685
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: of the guys who are going to be on their staff.

686
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: Well, here's all I'll do because we don't. We don't

687
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: because typically I'm wrong about everything. Just to me the presser, Chris,

688
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: I just feel like it it's sort of validated everything

689
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: we've been talking about for the last month. You know,

690
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: who are the Jim Harbaugh players there? The ones he mentioned,

691
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: Rashaan Slater, Derwin James, Justin Herbert, Like it was so obvious.

692
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: It's like that, you know, we talked about everybody's saying, oh,

693
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: they're just gonna you know, Jim Harbaugh is gonna take

694
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: control of everything and it's gonna end badly like Belichick.

695
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: We said, no, it's probably gonna be Joe in the

696
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: off season and Jim in the in the regular season.

697
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: What do you say today, He'll be Batman, I'll be rob.

698
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's there's that like we talked about, Yeah,

699
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: enough with the conversation about the Spinals is not spending

700
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: money and what did he say? He's like, yeah, they're

701
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: they're in that. You don't you know, you don't. You

702
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: don't hire Jim Harbaugh and then go cheap. It's not

703
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: the way it works. You know, guy's gonna make reportedly

704
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: sixteen million bucks a year and they're gonna spend a

705
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: fortune on his staff and on whatever he needs. So

706
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: it's kind of like all the all the things, all

707
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: the shots that were taken just getting swatted away one

708
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: after another. You know that That that's sort of the

709
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: feeling that I got at that presser today. There's Look,

710
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: there are there are older coaches that are taking on

711
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: the job retirement, that are resting on their laurels, and

712
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: they'll take that check and they don't care. They don't

713
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: care if it negatively affects their record. It's like whatever,

714
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm making a ton of money and I'm going to

715
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: get these last couple checks here because it's generational wealth.

716
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: That is not Jim Harbaugh. This dude loves coaching football

717
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: and he is the most competitive coach in the NFL.

718
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: And now that he is back, and I just, you know,

719
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: I think I think you felt that, you know it,

720
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: Like you said, his daughter has the work together, win together.

721
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Like it's just in there.

722
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: We got to put that on a shirt. Let's get

723
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: that on a shirt.

724
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he said, He's like, how lucky am

725
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: I that I was born into this family. He's like,

726
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: that's just luck that I'm a Harbaugh and I get

727
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: and I get all of this, you know, And that's it.

728
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: That's what that family is. Jack and Jackie, John and

729
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: Jim and my god, I mean even their brother in

730
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: law Tom Crean's a psycho competitor, you know, Like that's

731
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: just what they are. And so we're the beneficiaries now,

732
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: you know. Now we get to be the lucky ones.

733
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: And look, is it going to result in multiple Super Bowls?

734
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: I hope. So it's not easy. His brother John can

735
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: tell you that been the most maybe consistent winner in

736
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: the AFC for the last twenty years, and they got

737
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl appearance and win to show for it. Yeah,

738
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: it is not easy. You know, Patrick Mahomes and the

739
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs maybe lead you to believe that it is. It's not.

740
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: What they're doing is incredible and really as great as

741
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Patriots were. This six year run

742
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: has been insane that they are on and part of

743
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: me is happy that they're back there instead of the Ravens,

744
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: so Jim Harbaugh can end it, so it can be

745
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers in Harball that puts an end to it.

746
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: So that's it. That's all.

747
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: The foundation has now been laid, and I just think

748
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: it's going to be a program that the entire fan

749
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: base can get behind, win, losing, different tough times. You know,

750
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 2: adversity is going to strike every team every year. There's

751
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: going to be stuff. You know, we live in this

752
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: prisoner of the moment twenty for our news cycle where

753
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: it's like, man, you're only as good as your last

754
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: win or your last week. But just to see everything

755
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: that has been kind of poured into this and how

756
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: hungry ownership of the fan base and I think the

757
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: players too now like to have a guy buddy. There's

758
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: just last thing for me is like there's just something

759
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: to be said about a guy who played quarterback in

760
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: the NFL, who has been through what the players go

761
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: through on a on a weekly basis, on a daily basis,

762
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: getting your body prepared to play the next week when

763
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: you're leader. Has done that at a level that most

764
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: people can only dream of being at. I mean, you

765
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: got a guy that you can get behind, that you

766
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: can you know, work hard for, and and it just

767
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 2: goes beyond yourself. And again, like you said, it could

768
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: be not motivational, sappy stuff. When he says all these

769
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: things like man, you better believe that he believes it.

770
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: Like he had one phrase too, He's like when people

771
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: say have a nice day, I don't like that. No,

772
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: make it a great day, make it right.

773
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: I don't not.

774
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to leave the chance. I don't want

775
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: to leave you. And you better believe. He says this

776
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 2: to his team every single day, and he makes sure

777
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: that the eye on the prize is the team. And

778
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: and that's what I think just has given fans goosebumps

779
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: like the last month thinking that this could be a possibility.

780
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: And I'm just happy for all of our listeners of

781
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: viewers watching this that they can go to bed tonight

782
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: and feel good about their foototball team and just a

783
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: fun off season ahead.

784
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's perfectly put and I don't have

785
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: much to add. I would just I would just say this,

786
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of going back to what

787
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: I said about the Ravens and how hard it is

788
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: to win a championship in this league. But the one

789
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: thing that I feel has been very frustrating for the

790
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: fan base these last few years is I'm trying to

791
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: think the best way to put this without you know,

792
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: taking a shot. I'm not trying to do that, but

793
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: you are, you know, very very common in coaching circles.

794
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: You know, what is preached is the result is the result.

795
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: You can't control that. Weird things happen. Don't get hung

796
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: up on the result, get hung up on the process.

797
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: You know, put yourself in a position to win the contest,

798
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: whether that's a sporting contest or the game of life.

799
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: But whatever it is that you are putting and pouring

800
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: yourself into, respect and honor the process and give it

801
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: everything you've got and then whatever the result may be,

802
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: so be it. That's okay. Wins lost. You know what,

803
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: we were in it, and we did everything we could

804
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: to win that game. I feel like the last couple

805
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: of years, that's not how the fans felt. I think

806
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: you you would walk out of some of those games saying,

807
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: how are how are we not ready for that? How

808
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: did they let that team do that to them? How

809
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: did you come out of halftime? And that's what you had? Like,

810
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: I felt like there was too much of that that

811
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: maybe that that that what that almost and not that

812
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: you're cheating the system or that you think somehow, oh

813
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: I stole the answer key and that's how we're going

814
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: to win this. That that that hard work wasn't you know,

815
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't mean to take I just

816
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: feel like that's that was sort of that that level

817
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: of frustration that came along with so many of those losses,

818
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: the way games were lost, You felt like, ah, how

819
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: did how did that happen? How did we not see

820
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: that coming? And it was just repeatedly. DJ had the

821
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: best line. He's like, this team gets hit by the

822
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: right hand more than any in all of football. How

823
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: do they keep getting How do they know the right

824
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: hand's coming and they still get hit by it? And

825
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: I think that's that's never gonna happen again. I can

826
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: tell you that right now, not what this guy as

827
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: head coach, It'll be a team that is ready for

828
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: every contest, that fights their ass off in every contest,

829
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: and the results, They're not gonna win every game. They

830
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: may not win more games than they lose next year,

831
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: depending on how they decide to approach this upcoming season

832
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: with with you know, with players and salaries. But you

833
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: know that when they take the field, it's gonna be

834
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: a it's gonna be a rock fight, and the other

835
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: team is not gonna want to take by. They're going

836
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: to loathe that they're about to take part in the

837
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: next sixty minutes. And I think that's something you can

838
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: get excited about and be proud to say, I'm a

839
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: fan of this team and I'm excited about what's going

840
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: to happen here today.

841
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said man. We'll end it there, time to

842
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: clock out for the night. We'll be back next week.

843
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure a ton to talk about. Joe Hortez's press

844
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: conferences on Tuesday will dissect that, and I'm sure by

845
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: this time next week money we'll know a lot more

846
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: about maybe some of the staff and some of the

847
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: other things going on around the league. That may affect

848
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: the team, no doubt. Al Right, guys for money, I'm Chris.

849
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,959
Speaker 2: This has been charges weekly. Have a great night.