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Speaker 1: I walked away from a party because I saw my

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Speaker 1: you are the party. Ooh nice, let's go. November thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: and our other friends. We were able to invite partners, siblings,

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Speaker 1: storytime subreddit. So, my older sister twenty four arrived before

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Speaker 1: I did. A little while later she texted me, but

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Speaker 1: Also, before I left my house, she called me and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not big on friends knocking at the door.

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Speaker 1: Was I being paranoid? Or was Aiden really there? I

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Speaker 1: it's actually quite confusing to me. She never hid something

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Speaker 1: Well it's like a holiday dinner too. It's a Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: I just broke up with somebody.

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Speaker 2: It's probably one of their first relationships.

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Speaker 1: They're probably just like shocked. You just like saw a

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Speaker 1: Sorry to disappoint, but nothing much happened, which I don't

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Speaker 1: After I sent that text, she never bothered to reply.

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Speaker 1: Before I even knew it, she had blocked me.

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Speaker 2: Why. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe she's hiding something from me. I know I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: much it. It's been nearly two months and I'm still blocked.

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Speaker 1: I'll post again if something happens but for now, I'll

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Speaker 1: any questions to ask, please do I don't buy well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like reading y'all's opinions, especially the ones who offer advice.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for reading. We have an edit here. Some comments

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Speaker 1: and to the people who went through something similar like this,

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Speaker 1: sending you much love hugs to every single one of you.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you when I'll be able to update.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Madison, Nat or dayton YEP, that could be the

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Speaker 1: fed up really to me, it seems like she wasn't

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Speaker 1: which honestly I kind of agree with. Maybe she was

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Speaker 1: Either way, you're better off without her. OHP says I agree.

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Speaker 2: That's not how a.

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Speaker 1: Best friend treats their other best friend. Thanks comment to

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Speaker 1: the three says she didn't know he was coming to

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Speaker 1: a best friend or even a friend. You're better off

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Speaker 1: without her, Opie says, exactly, Like, how wouldn't she know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people said that, I'll try to find

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Speaker 1: out the truth as fast as possible so I could

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Speaker 1: share it.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: Does Opie's sister talk to Madison? No, op says, my

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Speaker 2: M intrigue, it intriguing.

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Speaker 4: Just probably got a gut check or you did.

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Speaker 1: Well, Well, you've got to update one month later. I've

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Speaker 1: your like a friend, Like, there's a code there. You

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't share why me and my ex broke up

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Speaker 4: The only reason I'm here right now.

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Speaker 1: We can't get We just just give me some idea,

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Speaker 1: like if you were I was in the wrong, Great,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever share it because for me,

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Speaker 1: This is a good guy, bad traumatic breakup. Not sure

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes it again. I do think Madison is

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Speaker 1: If i didn't answer some of y'all's comments, I'm either busy,

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Speaker 1: And there's some comments here. Comment one is well, you

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Speaker 1: and you're doing right by cutting her out of your life.

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Speaker 1: You truly did not need her for the last few months,

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Speaker 1: She can be with the X and receive the same

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Speaker 1: She doesn't deserve anything from you. Also, I would advise

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Speaker 1: in the first place, and maybe others. This is not

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Speaker 1: for revenge. This is one for you to keep out

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Speaker 1: of her reach the control of the narrative, and two

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Speaker 1: thank you. Comment Or two says, wait when you say traumatic,

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Speaker 1: I just want to understand the rest of your story.

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Speaker 1: I'm still on your side. And if your staffing friend,

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Speaker 1: I hope she gets everything she deserves.

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Speaker 2: Hope, he says.

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Speaker 1: I'd say both, it was something about it, and you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. The commentary three says, not the

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Speaker 1: a hole. What best friend thinks it's appropriate to date

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Speaker 1: their best friend's ex. This is like family members dating

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Speaker 2: Why would you do this?

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Speaker 1: There are millions of other people in the world. There

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Speaker 1: are billions of other people you could have chosen. Why

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Speaker 1: I almost feel like it's some type of weird competition

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Speaker 1: secretly without you knowing the fact that they were dating

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Speaker 1: For that year, every time you met and spoke with her,

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Speaker 1: This is what upsets me the most. Imagine finding out

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody.

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Speaker 1: Quick update to the people who commented on my last

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Speaker 1: own narrative. You were right. Nearly four days ago, she

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Speaker 1: made a post on Facebook about me.

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Speaker 2: Ooh link please.

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Speaker 1: Link link link it up. Link it out dox yourself. Recently,

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Speaker 1: I'll just paste what she said, yes, because if I

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Speaker 1: very long. She said, my best friend of sixteen years

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Speaker 1: heard from her since. Everyone don't trust anyone too much,

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Speaker 1: the end. OPI, you are a backstabber and you ruined

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Speaker 1: my life forever and I'll never forgive you. Holy projection, batman,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: My favorite line.

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Speaker 4: Is that I gave her everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even do anything wrong. And then my

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Speaker 1: her side. This is the same woman who was blinking

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Speaker 1: my ex. First she invited him to Thanksgiving dinner in

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Speaker 1: now this what.

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Speaker 2: Level of delusion is she on?

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Speaker 1: She even had the audacity and confidence to call me

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Speaker 1: The worst part is that people seemed to believe her

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Speaker 1: because most of them were her friends. I know them,

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Speaker 1: but they aren't my friends, and the other were people

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Speaker 1: I don't know. They spoke badly about me and wished

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Speaker 1: that something bad would happen to me. She's playing the

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Speaker 1: I really hate this woman so much. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to do now, but I'm thinking of responding to her.

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Speaker 1: I've never in my life made a post about someone,

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Speaker 1: anyone has any advice on what I should say or do,

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Speaker 1: I'm open to hearing it. And there are some here

441
00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,200
Speaker 1: in op you kind of are doing the same thing, right, Riley,

442
00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,000
Speaker 1: hit her with your advice.

443
00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,399
Speaker 4: Please, she's just basically putting a post on Reddit instead

444
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,639
Speaker 4: of Facebook for more people, not just their friends.

445
00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,320
Speaker 1: Oh that is a good yeah, But if you want

446
00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,040
Speaker 1: it's a fair observation, nefarious, get ready with me, expose

447
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,320
Speaker 1: the truth, let everyone know. I mean, here's what i'd say.

448
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,200
Speaker 1: I think this is a situation where you don't want

449
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,359
Speaker 1: to go in with like a warhead. You want to

450
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,639
Speaker 1: go in with like a scalpel. So like, don't reply

451
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,679
Speaker 1: to the post and like make this whole big thing

452
00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,640
Speaker 1: out of it. You already know where you sit with it.

453
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,840
Speaker 1: You say that you're still processing it and you don't

454
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,640
Speaker 1: know what to do about it. I think the thing

455
00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,080
Speaker 1: that will give you the most peace of mind is

456
00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,480
Speaker 1: to just like tell the people, like, like you said,

457
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are strangers on that

458
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 1: post responding to it. Who cares about them? Anyone who's

459
00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,440
Speaker 1: your friend, a relationship or a friendship that you value,

460
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,399
Speaker 1: who may not know the full story, tell them. Go

461
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,679
Speaker 1: in with a scalpel, tell the people that matter. And

462
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 1: then you know what, It's brilliant the way that this

463
00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,840
Speaker 1: stuff can just go away. You just take your computer,

464
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,600
Speaker 1: you take your phone, you take wherever you're looking at it.

465
00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,280
Speaker 1: You just close it and now it doesn't exist. It's gone,

466
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,960
Speaker 1: It's only there. Comment one give her a taste of

467
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 1: her own medicine. Answer to her post. But that's just

468
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,880
Speaker 1: petty met Your friends know the truth, so no need

469
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,400
Speaker 1: to fuel her need for drama. Ohp He says, Yes,

470
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,439
Speaker 1: all my friends and loved ones know everything, And the

471
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 1: reason why I'm thinking of responding to her was because

472
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 1: I fear that her people are gonna attack me or something.

473
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,679
Speaker 1: Comment two says, screenshot her posts so you have the

474
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,800
Speaker 1: evidence if she deletes it, and post a response on

475
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,679
Speaker 1: your own Facebook page. Tag her and everyone involved in

476
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 1: it so it gets their attention. Disable comments on the post.

477
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 1: Opie says, Actually, this is a good one. I'll think

478
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 1: about it. When did op break up with the X?

479
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 1: I left him about five or six years ago? Comment

480
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 1: three says let her run her mouth, But I'd be

481
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 1: petty in reply right under it and air it all out.

482
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 1: I'd send a mass text to all mutual friends and family.

483
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 1: If you don't want to go that route, you can

484
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,880
Speaker 1: get her for intimidation. And here's another update. Two days later, Okay,

485
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 1: so no more talking too much. I'll just get straight

486
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 1: to the point. Oh y'all, she is pregnant, Madison, My

487
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 1: best friend is pregnant. So basically, first, I don't know

488
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,919
Speaker 1: how far along she is or when this happened, but

489
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,959
Speaker 1: here's how I knew. She texted me from probably one

490
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 1: of her friend's phones. This is what she said, quote,

491
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 1: this is what you're missing on right now. My baby

492
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 1: will unfortunately grow up without an auntie referring to me

493
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 1: because we grew up together and treated each other like

494
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 1: real sisters who love him dearly and shower him with gifts.

495
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: Not to sound rude, but I really really wanted you

496
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 1: to be a part of this journey with me, but

497
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: your stubbornness and selfishness ruined it. Even though you completely

498
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: shattered my heart and destroyed my confidence, I still want

499
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 1: you in my baby's life. For now, we'll put the

500
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: past behind and move on until the baby is born.

501
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 1: Me and Aiden are happy to welcome you back into

502
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: our lives with open arms.

503
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 2: Love you lots.

504
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 1: And on the bottom there was a photo of an ultrasound.

505
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,240
Speaker 1: I immediately blocked her. Good, perfect decision. I think this

506
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 1: is so weird. There might be something here about like

507
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 1: because they grew up together and stuff. Like the reason

508
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: that she's with Aiden is like maybe there was some competitive.

509
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 4: There is something going on aspect too, because she's doing

510
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 4: this like I got with him, I'm having his baby.

511
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

512
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 4: And Aiden may fill a victim to the first love

513
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 4: theory where he actually still has feelings for op because

514
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 4: Opee ended it and he probably was like, oh, well,

515
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,199
Speaker 4: she used to do like this. She used to do

516
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 4: like that. Da da da da dah. I mean way,

517
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 4: and Madison knows that. She's like, oh well, how can

518
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 4: I one up her? How can it be better than her?

519
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 4: And she's rubbing this in her face.

520
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 2: You know something?

521
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: Remember that Facebook post she posted about me. That message

522
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: that she sent up was after I responded to her.

523
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: Sorry to disappoint y'all with my response, but I thought

524
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: that it was the only suitable one. I only responded

525
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 1: with a link to my Reddit post and threatened that

526
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: if she continued spreading false info and lies about me,

527
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 1: I'd make sure to sue her for defamation. What happened

528
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: after the post was gone, but the evidence is still

529
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: with me. I assumed that she tried to manipulate and

530
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: guilt trip me into everything that she said, which is

531
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: not happening today or tomorrow. Excellent And by the way, today, tomorrow,

532
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: the next day, to the end of time. You can

533
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: actually listen to full episodes with stories like this one

534
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: on Spotify and iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts wherever you listen. Just

535
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: search Okay story time, and you've got nearly thirteen hundred

536
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: hours worth of stories to listen to. We have a

537
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: little bit more story left here. Really, you have any

538
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: closing thoughts to add?

539
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 4: Oh, he seems doing the right thing. Crazy, whatever, this

540
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 4: Madison Gal has been eating. She's not your friend, and

541
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 4: you gotta let her go.

542
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: It's true time and move on. That's so hard.

543
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 4: If one of my friends did that to me.

544
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Speaker 1: It's fundamentally broken. At that point, I don't know if

545
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: that's coming back true. So let's finish the story. I

546
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: know I may seem like I'm just casually typing all

547
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: this like it was normal, but in reality, I'm speechless,

548
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: shocked and.

549
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: Low key's shaking.

550
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: I'll try to respond to as many people as possible tonight,

551
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: but after that I'll leave this account for a few weeks,

552
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: and to the one person who messaged me in private.

553
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: Thank you so so much for the advice. I'm sorry

554
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: to everyone that went through something like this. We all

555
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: deserve better, and we have some relevant comments here. Sorry

556
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: to hear about all of this. Hope you have a

557
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: great support system. How can she even have the thought

558
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: that you would want to be in her life after

559
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: everything she's done? Opie says, probably because I was her

560
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: friend the longest sixteen years, while the others are one

561
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: to five years. Not sure though. The comments who says

562
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: not the a hole. You are much better off without them.

563
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: Block them and move on. Should she text you again,

564
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: bluntly tell her that she is pestering you and you

565
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: would take legal action if necessary. Also, are you sure

566
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: she's actually pregnant? I wouldn't put it past her to

567
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: use a fake ultrasound. Go live your best life without them,

568
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: oh Pi says, I haven't seen her pregnant when we

569
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: met before, probably because of what she was wearing, so

570
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: she may actually be faking it. Commentary three says the

571
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: best revenge is to live a good life. Block both

572
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: of them. Put this all behind you. I know it's

573
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: easier said than done, but these people are not well.

574
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: Don't give them any more.

575
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: Of your energy. Good luck to you.

576
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: Wholeheartedly agree with that, and with that we have come

577
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: to the end of the story.

578
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: I expect my best friend's betrayal at her own engagement dinner.

579
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: It's like she got her just dessert. What do you

580
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: think of that? Backstory? I had a BFF that I

581
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,239
Speaker 2: think quotes ooh ooh important air quoted BFF that I

582
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: suspected was not a good friend. I never really had

583
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: actual reasons for suspecting that she wasn't. It was solely

584
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: an instinct, a gut feeling, if you will, Hindsight is

585
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and I should have listened to my gut.

586
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Intelligent Sale four three one,

587
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: and if you want to spent your own stories, go

588
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: to our slashowcase story time separd It. Anyway, let's call

589
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: this friend and her fiance Cindy and Paul. I met

590
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 2: Cindy in school approximately five years before the crop storm.

591
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: We quickly became party friends, you know, the kind you

592
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: only party with.

593
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, you have a party friend.

594
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: She was fun and always seemed to be looking for

595
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: the next guy, regardless of her relationship status, which I

596
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: found to be distasteful. But I mind my business and

597
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: didn't consider us to be close friends. Eventually we grew closer.

598
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: She'd come over to my house and hang out at

599
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: family gatherings. She always seemed to copy my fashion, makeup, gestures,

600
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: and sometimes even hair color. She'd asked to wear my

601
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: clothes or have me do her makeup similar to mine.

602
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: I thought nothing of it, despite other friends telling me

603
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: they found her weird, as she did seem to want

604
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: to behave look and do as I did. I thought

605
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: it was a bit odd at times, but didn't feel

606
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: threatened or bothered by any of that. When Cindy and

607
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: I met, she was married and I was in a

608
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: serious cohabiting relationship with a man i'll call Simon. Cindy

609
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 2: cheated on her husband, with whom I later found out

610
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: to be her cousin's husband, and she moved the stolen

611
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: husband in probably the same day, I don't know. Despite

612
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: having been friends for so long, I later learned she

613
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 2: led an entirely different life that I had no idea about,

614
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: and would have never allowed her close to my family

615
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: if I knew about it. Anyway, the stolen husband relationship

616
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: didn't last long because they both cheated on each other,

617
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: shocking that the cheaters cheated again.

618
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: I could have never possibly seen this coming.

619
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: Nope. Meanwhile, Simon and I were living our best lives

620
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: and going on five years strong. Okay, brag, but suddenly

621
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: things changed. We weren't on bad terms, but we weren't

622
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: on talking terms. It was more of a i'll avoid you,

623
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: but i'll be civil if I see you. Fast forward

624
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: a year and half later, and many men Cindy's life later,

625
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: I was in a relationship that quickly became serious. I

626
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: wasn't surprised that a relationship was moving fast, after all,

627
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: he was my first love, my high school sweetheart, whom

628
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: I had broken up with before I went to college.

629
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Speaker 2: Side note, he and I have been happily married since

630
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 2: and have made a wonderful life together. You guys just

631
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: need a little hiatus.

632
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little refresh, little refresh, a little retreat.

633
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Check out the other options, loop back around, we'll circle back.

634
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 2: He also supported me while I moved in the Shadows,

635
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: despite not agreeing with what I was doing. The call

636
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: was on the prel for a new MOO, and at

637
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: a gathering, Cindy met one of my husband's friends, Paul.

638
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 2: Of course, she sank her teeth into him immediately. Cindy

639
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: moved at lightning speed with these guys, immediately moving them

640
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: in and wedding planning even when she hadn't been proposed

641
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: to omg. Her obsession with having a wedding was insane.

642
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: Paul quickly found himself engaged to Cindy a couple of

643
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: months into the relationship. Yes, a couple of months, okay.

644
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 2: Paul would openly and loudly say that he never asked

645
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: nor gave her a ring.

646
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: Ah, the classic only one person in the relationship is

647
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: actually getting engaged.

648
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: He's like, just to be clear, we're not engaged.

649
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: And she's like, he's so funny, isn't he funny?

650
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: Is he just always just making jokes? Are still a prankster?

651
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: That's why we're getting married?

652
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: And he's like, again, not getting married. Man is also

653
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: not willing to break up with her. He's like, exactly,

654
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: I mean, she's convinced that we're getting engaged, but I

655
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: don't know. It feels like a problem that will sort

656
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Speaker 2: itself out.

657
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: Gotta have a little bit of self integrity, little self respect.

658
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: There, my guy. Yes, she bought herself the ring and

659
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: paid for the wedding. She asked me to be her

660
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: maid of honor, and I accepted. One month into the

661
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: dumpster fire wedding planning, Cindy begins to complain that Paul

662
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: was working overtime and wasn't meeting her needs in the

663
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: you know what department because he was always tired. We

664
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: went out a few times and she left with random

665
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: guys while I went home to the love of my life.

666
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: Cindy lied to Paul, telling him she was with me

667
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: or stayed over. I don't like that. Ope, I think

668
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: that's like not fool of you to be kind of

669
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: letting that slide.

670
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Kind of just like enabling that in a way.

671
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're gonna be her maid of honor. Obviously

672
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: this is on Cindy, But you know, I one wouldn't

673
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: want to be friends with a person like this, and two,

674
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: if I was gonna be the maid of honor in

675
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: this person's wedding, presumably you know Paul.

676
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: Right, So it's like it puts you in a position

677
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: where you're like, yeah, I gotta lie through my teeth

678
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: to a guy who's making a huge mistake.

679
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't go and do that. Cindy lied

680
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: to Paul, telling him she was with me or stayed over.

681
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: She never stayed at my place. I'm too grown for

682
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: slumber parties. We don't do that over here, no, ma'am.

683
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: I found out she was using me to lie to Paul,

684
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: so I confronted her about it and told her how

685
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: my husband and I felt about knowing she was cheating

686
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: on a guy we were friends with at that point,

687
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: her wedding was one month away. She said she'd stop

688
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: and make things right with Paul. Then I get the

689
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: call from my ex Simon. He says he couldn't deal

690
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: with the guilt anymore and needed to confess that he

691
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: cheated on me with Cindy towards the end of our relationship.

692
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: He said he needed to tell me, not just out

693
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: of guilt, but that he hated to see how I

694
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: was still being lied to by Cindy. Wasn't a problem

695
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: when he was lying to me, though, Simon was like

696
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: Simon was likely confessing to make his way back into

697
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: my life by trying to get all my good graces.

698
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: It nah, Simon tells me Cindy and he started to text.

699
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: When we began to have issues. She would advise him

700
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: to leave me because he deserved better. They met up

701
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: at bar a couple of times and hooked up. They

702
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: recently hooked up again and Cindy told them that she

703
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: was getting married and I was the maid of honor.

704
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: Simon told her to come clean if she planned on

705
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: continuing to be my friend. They argued over it, and

706
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: he warned her that he'd tell me everything if she didn't.

707
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 2: What's going on?

708
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: All of these people suck terrible.

709
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: Even you suck too, because you're not telling anyone anything

710
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: that's going on.

711
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: Right, You're letting Paul get married married to the serial adulterer.

712
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: And also just like incredibly unsafe from like an STD

713
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: point of view. Yeah, and then who's this guy, Simon? Simon?

714
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Simon's rolling in and being like yeah, Also, I'm an

715
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: a fair partner of Cindy's right.

716
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: Now, Yes, and was when we were dating. It's never stopped.

717
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: Come on the nitty gritty. I contemplated whether I should

718
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: move in the shadows or confront her about her cheating

719
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: and betrayal. Although finding out I was betrayed not just

720
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: by a partner but also by a close friend felt horrible,

721
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: even though I had moved on. However, I was not

722
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: angry or fighting overra Mann. I felt betrayed, fooled, and

723
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: flat out disrespected by my so called best friend who

724
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: dared to make me her maid of honor after betraying me.

725
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: At least Simon had the slight decency to exit my

726
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: life after his betrayal. I was sure as heck pissed,

727
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: because where do you find the audacity? Like my friend

728
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: Charlotte says, absolutely not so. I consulted a friend who

729
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: is now my best friend, and we agreed I should

730
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: give Cindy a chance to confess on her own by

731
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: hinting that I knew about the cheating after numerous hints,

732
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: like me telling her Simon confessed he cheated with a

733
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: friend while we were breaking up. How much more of

734
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: a hint do you need? Ellel. She instead decided to

735
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: console me and tell me I should be glad I'm

736
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: with someone way better now in fine month's trash loel

737
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: that really pissed me off and said screw the high

738
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: road bs, and decided to unleash the petty revenge committee

739
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: located in the depths of my anger the dinner party.

740
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: What is going on?

741
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: There's just a whole Why are we plotting and being said,

742
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: it's like, say, she's like.

743
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: Doing a whole roundabout plot with no action.

744
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: Just stop plotting, they tell Paul, not like a financial

745
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: situation that would be upset if she feels like, why

746
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: are we waiting? This is also a level of deceit

747
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: that I find personally disturbing.

748
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: Yes, she literally cheated on.

749
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: You with your partner of five years or whatever, and

750
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: she has the ability, not just the audacity, but she

751
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: can make you the maid of honor and not have

752
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: an internal crisis about.

753
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: It, which is absurd. Crazy.

754
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: She's almost dangerous, I'd yeah.

755
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: I told Cindy that I wanted to throw her and

756
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: Paul at dinner with our closest friends, approximately six people,

757
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: and it would be hosted at my now bff's house.

758
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to my BFF who moved

759
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: in the shadows with me and restored my faith and

760
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: true friendships. This dinner took place two weeks before the wedding.

761
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: We sat everyone down, they ate, had some drinks that

762
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: I made the toast. I started by asking Cindy if

763
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: she wanted to come clean now or if she preferred

764
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: I'd do it for her. The look on her face

765
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: was priceless. She knew what I was talking about one

766
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: thousand percent. However, not only do I move in the shadows,

767
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: but I also move with receipts. So I invited Simon

768
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: to join us via FaceTime while I made the confession

769
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: announcement on her behalf. She tried to interrupt me and

770
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: speak over me, but my BFF stopped her and I

771
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: made sure I spoke loud, fast and clear. My only

772
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: real regret about it all was Paul learning of the

773
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: multiple times Cindy cheated in front of everyone. I can

774
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: only imagine the horror that might have been, But I

775
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: knew if I told him separately, he would not have

776
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: joined us that night. I later apologized to him. He

777
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: forgave me and also thanked me for letting him know,

778
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: although he wished it would have been in private. Yeah.

779
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: Oh he He is now happily married and has a

780
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: beautiful wife and kids. As for Cindy, she spent the

781
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: following two weeks begging me to say that I lied

782
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: about everything so that Paul would go through the wedding

783
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: delusional much Paul ghosted her, and she spent several weeks

784
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: trying to find him by invading his mother's home unannounced.

785
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: I have no idea what lies Cindy told Paul's mom

786
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: because she contacted my husband to warn him that I

787
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: was the city's biggest slute and he should leave me Aliel.

788
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: My husband only pissed her off by replying that he

789
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: loved that about me because he one too OLMEO cool.

790
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: Justin FYI, this wedding was going to be a simple

791
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: backyard wedding. There was no large deposits lost other than

792
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: the table and linen rental deposit. Paul's family was going

793
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: to cook, I was doing hair makeup pre wedding photos,

794
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: and my bff was bringing the DJ. Cindy bought herself

795
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: her engagement ring and wedding dress. But lesson learned, I hoped.

796
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: And you can learn your lesson right now if you

797
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Speaker 2: listen to full episodes of stories just like this. Just

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799
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Speaker 2: pokey story time. But there is a little bit left.

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Speaker 1: To the story, Paul, Paul, somehow you're out there listening

801
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: to this, be sturdier, Paul Duke of a Racis.

802
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: You need more resolution?

803
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: It's been bothering me the entire time. Yeah, you have

804
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: to see the path before Paul thought, what does he say?

805
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he's doing this. Paul knew.

806
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: Paul knew the whole time, Paul jabes.

807
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: Paul knew that he had to be cheated on, Yeah,

808
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: and that he had to be like I saw the

809
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: path ahead of me. It was the only way send.

810
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: He and I never spoke again, and thankfully we have

811
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: never run into each other again. All of our friends,

812
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: including her first husband, took my side and we all

813
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: remain friends. I never spoke to Simon again, despite his

814
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: continuous attempts to contact me, until he passed a couple

815
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: of years ago. I did not attend his funeral out

816
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: of respect for myself and my husband, but I did

817
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: visit his grave months later to pay my respects and

818
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: say a prayer for him. I always wondered, am I

819
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: the a hole for going about things this way? No

820
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: matter what the Internet's verdict is, I have zero regrets.

821
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story.

822
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: Hey, Sam, We're gonna get back to the stories. But

823
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Speaker 3: here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors.

824
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825
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Speaker 1: so I'm refusing to attend theirs.

826
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Speaker 1: Oh, no, red wedding.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we don't want to read wedding.

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Speaker 2: A little background.

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Speaker 1: My thirty two female husband, thirty eight male will call

832
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: him Dan has one brother, thirty three male, who will

833
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: call Jordan, whom he has never gotten along with. By

834
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: the way, this comes from music Crunchy Zombie forty nine

835
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Speaker 1: Dan isn't much of a sharer, so I don't know

838
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: all the details. All I know is that, according to

839
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Dan and Jordan's aunt, Jordan was horrible to Dan growing up.

840
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: Jordan is also notoriously disliked and known to just not

841
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: be a good person by just about everyone I've met

842
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: that also knows him. Their own grandmother warned me about

843
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: him before we met. Jordan is not just unpleasant, he

844
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: is a fully hatched bigot.

845
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: No, oh my god, grandma hates him now.

846
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm not usually very confrontational. I have chronic people pleasing

847
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: disease CPP but also, after a few drinks, I'm a

848
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: tad more flippant with my opinions. Over Christmas, Jordan made

849
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: a comment about people of other races not being real people,

850
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: and I lost it.

851
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: Is this the guy we had yesterday? It was like,

852
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: women aren't real, aren't real? And then just.

853
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Here the next level being like people who aren't the

854
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: same color as me not real people that you're.

855
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: Wow insane, You're diabolically awful.

856
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: The meanest thing I said was thank goodness you live

857
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: somewhere your opinion doesn't really matter. They live in a very,

858
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: very blue state. He responded that I didn't matter.

859
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Lol.

860
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: So I just got up and walked away to help

861
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: his fiance. This guy's got a fiance twenty five female

862
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: Katie wash the ditches.

863
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Everyone just let that slide. What is?

864
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: Everyone just let that slide? No one else but you

865
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: was like us, you know, you know Mussolini.

866
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well it's typical typical Jordan that everyone dislikes,

867
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: saying that minorities aren't real people.

868
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: Also, his response, he goes, well you're not I don't

869
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: like you. What did he say? Yeah? He was like,

870
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: you don't matter. You don't matter. You don't matter? Are

871
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: you two year old?

872
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: I apologized to Katie in my mind for having to

873
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: deal with Jordan, but in her mind it was for

874
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: yelling at him. She responded with something along the lines of, no,

875
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I wish I believed in something that much, girl?

876
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: What so?

877
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little odd, but we were

878
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: all pretty intoxicated, so I just didn't pay much mind

879
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: to that comment. I also agreed to be nice to

880
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Jordan for the rest of the evening, mostly to keep

881
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: my mother in law, who I love, happy. The rest

882
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: of the evening, Jordan sulked in the corner and while Katie,

883
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: my mother in law, and father in law, Dan, and

884
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: I opened gifts, chatted, and had a generally good time

885
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: considering what happened. Some background on Katie I feel as

886
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: important to the story is she's one of those people

887
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: who looks like a real housewife, not in a bad way.

888
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: She just looks all glammed up and is always wearing

889
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: designer clothes and bags and expensive jewelry.

890
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: She actually looks like a lot.

891
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: Like a younger Brandy Glanville from the Real Housewives of

892
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. I like the nice things as well, but

893
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm much more the type to live in sweatpants unless

894
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: I need to go somewhere that requires real pants.

895
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: She's as so very loud and loves to be.

896
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: The center of attention, whereas I'm dreading my own wedding

897
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: day simply because of all the people looking at me.

898
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: Katie and I really couldn't be more different, and I

899
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily see that as a bad thing at first,

900
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: but there was something about her that rubbed me the

901
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: wrong way, and I just couldn't put my finger on it.

902
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: I was a little weary of anyone willing to date

903
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: someone like Jordan, and I just had this weird feeling

904
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: that Katie didn't actually like me or was trying to

905
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: one up me in some way. That feeling probably came

906
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: from the fact that Jordan and Katie got engaged two

907
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: months after Dan and I and set their wedding for

908
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: August of this year, six months after ours. I've seen

909
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: it off Charlotte videos know that maybe I was just

910
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: being insecure or projecting or something. So I just kept

911
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: those feelings to myself and tried my best to befriend

912
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: my future.

913
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Sister in law.

914
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: But it just seemed so odd to me because Jordan

915
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: and Dan's parents had absolutely no idea Jordan was even

916
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: considering proposing. Things started to get weird though, when I

917
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: invited her to my bachelorette party via my maid of honor,

918
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: who was planning. A response was think but.

919
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: I already celebrated her in Nashville.

920
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: Nashville was a trip we were both invited on with

921
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: my mother in law to visit mother in law's sister

922
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: and our future female cousins since they lived there. It

923
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: was a semi celebration for me, but more of a

924
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 1: girl's in the family trip and I had absolutely nothing

925
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: to do with it. But fine, we don't live in

926
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: the same state, and even though my batchelourette was a

927
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: local one day thing on a weekend, I understand it's

928
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: a trip for her and not everyone can take off

929
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: work and afford to make the trip. I was still

930
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: a little hurt, but again was willing to give her

931
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. Keep in mind, though all

932
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: of this was before the Christmas chaos, but again after

933
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: the blow up, Katie and I seemed to be getting

934
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: along fine, surprisingly well in fact, and I actually started

935
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: to think maybe we could be friends. Flash forward to

936
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: Dan and I's wedding. Dack the way the venue was

937
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: laid out, I was able to see all the guests

938
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: arriving and taking their seats from my getting ready sweet

939
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: So I'm standing at the window watching people arrive, getting

940
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: pumped to marry the man of my dreams, and in

941
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: walks Jordan and Katie in a white dress.

942
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: Dude, I forgot the title. I thought this was just

943
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: Jordan hay Tran.

944
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: I immediately just started laughing, which probably that's the best

945
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: way you could probably take that, simultaneously in disbelief and

946
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: also just not surprised. Then night goes on and the

947
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: vast majority of people in attendance, at least on my

948
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: or our friend's side, we're absolutely appalled. My wedding planner

949
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: was livid, and the bartenders even asked me, unprovoked, if

950
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: I would like them to spill a drink or two

951
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: on her. Honestly, at the time, I felt so vindicated

952
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: and relieved that my instincts about her were correct. I

953
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: told them not to worry about it. I mean, at

954
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: this point, I feel like, if you wear white to

955
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: someone else's wedding, everyone there knows exactly the kind of

956
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: person you are.

957
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: We already know what kind of person. Yeah, it's like

958
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: we're just like universally disliked.

959
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 5: I think I have the pick of the dress because

960
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 5: again op posted at the very beginning, and I was

961
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 5: gonna save it till we got it.

962
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't know this is the exact.

963
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: Thing, but I think it is. That's what she wore,

964
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: That's what Jordan wore. That's what Jordan's er.

965
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Jordan wore wore Sorry, Katy Jordan. That's yeah,

966
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: there we go. Wow, perfect, that's a wedding. Yeah, that's

967
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: one way to show up to a wedding the wrong way.

968
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: It's the Yeah, that's a wedding.

969
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: It's white though white, it's white, I will say.

970
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: It's a Really, it doesn't matter what you're wearing. If

971
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: it's white, don't wear it. Yeah, don't wear what.

972
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: So the funniest part about this, which I found out later,

973
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: is that my maid of honor confronted her and said,

974
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: why would you wear white to a wedding? And she goes,

975
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: it's not white, it's cream. I would never wear white

976
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: to a wedding. Yeah, it's screams like.

977
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: I'd never wear white to a wedding, I'd just oh.

978
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: You idiot, do you think I'm wearing white? It's cream,

979
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: which is not a shade of white. That Now that

980
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: a couple of days have gone by and I've had

981
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: some time to stew, I realize how incredibly disrespectful that

982
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: really was. I mean, she's either as stupid as she

983
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: looked in that dress and didn't realize the dress wasn't appropriate,

984
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: or she did it intentionally. So anyway, now onto the

985
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: would I be the a whole part of this post.

986
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: Jordan and Katie are getting married in August. It's a

987
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: four day destination wedding in the Bahamas and would cost

988
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: a minimum of eighteen hundred dollars between the hotel and

989
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: flight for Dan and I to attend. I know this

990
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: would really upset my mother in law, but Dan and

991
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: I really do not want to go. If it were

992
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: in their hometown, we would just deal with it for

993
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: mother in law, But the idea of taking time off

994
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: work and spending almost two grand to celebrate people who

995
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: don't even hesitate to hurt us on our own wedding

996
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: is not necessarily on my BINGO card for twenty twenty five.

997
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin my relationship with my mother

998
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: in law and father in law because they really are

999
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: wonderful people. But I also refuse to spend the rest

1000
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: of my life being disrespected by Jordan and Katie. So

1001
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: I feel like we need to set the boundary now

1002
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: before it gets worse. So please tell me. Would I

1003
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: be the a hole if we refuse to go to

1004
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: my brother in law's wedding after his fiance were a

1005
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: white dress to my wedding and Sophia, no, why why do.

1006
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: You even want to go to their wedding?

1007
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: Like all other contexts aside, If you're gonna make your

1008
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: wedding cost almost two thousand dollars for us to attend,

1009
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: that's a perfectly.

1010
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: Reasonable say, uh, no reason.

1011
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: Itself going to his wedding. I'm not going to pay

1012
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: two grand to go to your wedding.

1013
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh that's what I say.

1014
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: He got some comments here number one. As many people

1015
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: have pointed out before me, an invitation is not a summon.

1016
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: Anyone who is planning a destination wedding can't expect everyone

1017
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: to attend due to price and time constraints. Quite frankly,

1018
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: Katie and Jordan sound like selfish people, send your regrets

1019
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: and a gift.

1020
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: Oh P says, you're so right.

1021
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: I need to remember that the people pleaser in me

1022
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: doesn't want to upset my mother in law. But as

1023
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: someone else said, I need to protect my peace and

1024
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: being around people like Katie and Jordan is literally the

1025
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: opposite of that. Commentary two says, not the a hole,

1026
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: don't go take a vacationion with your husband or pretend

1027
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: to be sick. Might want to look into getting her

1028
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: dress recolored with photoshop if she's in any wedding photos.

1029
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: Mustard yellow works or maybe a grainy brown. Oh P says,

1030
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: my photographer literally just emailed me and offered to do that.

1031
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: What an awesome idea. Can't believe I didn't think about it.

1032
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: Comment three. If you're concerned about your mother in law,

1033
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: you need to give her a fair warning or have

1034
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: your fiance to it, something like we really can't afford

1035
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: the time off or the expense. You have a pretty

1036
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: good reason since you just had a wedding and probably

1037
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: took time off for that. Hopefully you can get away

1038
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: with Jess that. Surely your mother in law gets it

1039
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: if she confronted sister in law about the dress. Hopefully

1040
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: she'll understand, Opie says, sadly, I don't think mother in

1041
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: law did say anything to her, and I'm not sure

1042
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: if she would even if she did know it upset me.

1043
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: Mother in law really is lovely, but she's mostly in

1044
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: denial about the situation because she so badly wants a big,

1045
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: happy family. Like the morning after the Christmas blow up,

1046
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: she acted like absolutely nothing happened and just kept talking

1047
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: about how lovely it was to have everyone there. So

1048
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: I'm already anticipating having to explain why we feel disrespected.

1049
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: Comment to three says, I already celebrated her in a

1050
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: white dress at my wedding. This is absolutely perfect. I've

1051
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: already seen her in a white dress at a wedding.

1052
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: I'm sure they won't even miss you, as you don't matter.

1053
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: Helloel enjoy some extra time with your husband. Op says

1054
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: this is an extremely valid point. I mean, I'm basically

1055
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: a ghost to them, and they've invited two hundred and

1056
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: twenty people to their wedding anyway, so I can't imagine

1057
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: they'd even notice our absence, and how many of those

1058
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty will actually attend, op says another

1059
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: solid point. But they are the kind of people that

1060
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: value people based on their annual income, so it wouldn't

1061
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: surprise me if most of those people showed up, which.

1062
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: Is another reason I have no desire to go.

1063
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: Two hundred and twenty people all with the same morals

1064
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: in class as Katie and Jordan. No, thank you, and

1065
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: we have an update from two days later.

1066
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: Definitely don't go. Yeah it's something I mean, nightmare. Yeah,

1067
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: not only do you have to pay like two k,

1068
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: but also it's Jordan, It's Jordan and freaking Katie the

1069
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: nightmare squad.

1070
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: Jordan, people who aren't the same race as me don't exist.

1071
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: And Katie, I were white to your wedding.

1072
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: Why are we acting like we want to spend a

1073
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: single second with these people.

1074
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: They're like peas and carrots, but for toxic people. Okay,

1075
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: here's the up emptate.

1076
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: Dan and I have decided we are not going to

1077
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: attend the wedding huzza, as fun and petty as it

1078
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: would be to go and wear the same or a

1079
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: similar white dress, or go and announce a pregnancy. I

1080
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: know in the end that would just hurt me and

1081
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: the in laws I actually like more than it would

1082
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: Jordan and Katie, plus their wedding guest list is two

1083
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty people, and if even half of them

1084
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: are like j and K, well, who knows what they

1085
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: would do if I show up in white. There are

1086
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: a few family members on dear husband's side that we

1087
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: know aren't invited. I know a two hundred and twenty

1088
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: person destination weddings and they couldn't even include the whole family,

1089
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: So we may go visit them during that weekend instead.

1090
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: As for mother in law and father in law, we

1091
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: are planning to talk to them this weekend and are

1092
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: just going to be honest about why we didn't want

1093
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: to go. I didn't mention this in my original post

1094
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: because I didn't think it was relevant, but mother in

1095
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: law and father in law are.

1096
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: Fairly well off.

1097
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: They would one hundred percent offered to cover the cost

1098
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: of the entire trip if we tried to use the

1099
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: excuse that we just can't afford it right now, So

1100
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: we might as well just tell them the truth up front.

1101
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: Fingers crossed that they can see our side of things

1102
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: and also realize that what Katie did was not only

1103
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: disrespectful to Dan and I, but to mother in law

1104
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: as well. No secret mother in law wants a big,

1105
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: happy family, so to do something so blatantly inappropriate could

1106
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: have been the start of amending relationship seems like a

1107
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: slap in the face to her as well. Plus we

1108
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: genuinely fear what drama they would stir up once kids

1109
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: are involved, so we agree with everyone saying we need

1110
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: to set the boundary now before it gets worse. I

1111
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: also got to talk with my first photographer this morning

1112
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: and share some of your amazing.

1113
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: Ideas with her.

1114
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: She was loving it.

1115
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: She confirmed that Katie was only featured in two pictures

1116
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: and then in the background of a few others, so

1117
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 1: she said that she'll send me the unedited photos first

1118
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: and then we can have fun. Come at one if

1119
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: you decide to go wear something flowy slash not clingy

1120
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: and don't announce anything, just faint during the ceremony due

1121
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: to your delicate condition and say oh I don't want

1122
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: to announce anything and take away from the bride and groom.

1123
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: Commenter two says no, no, no, do as the one

1124
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: redditor that spent the whole wedding smiling, secretly nursing her belly,

1125
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: no drinking, don't say a word let people blah blah

1126
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

1127
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: Guys, do we want to give them any more energy? No,

1128
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: I think O piece not going on. This is just

1129
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: this is just fun kind of little uh brainstorming. But

1130
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: it's not. It's not happening. Guys.

1131
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: We have to prioritize our peace of mine. Okay, this,

1132
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: he's not going to do that.

1133
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 4: Peas going to do that?

1134
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: Oh P says Ooh now this is something I could

1135
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: deadly have fun with. Okay, I worry a bit about

1136
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: the karma of lying about a pregnancy, But if no

1137
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: lie is actually being told and people just happen to

1138
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: assume something, that's a different story. Coming to three says,

1139
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: when you talk to your mother in law, please emphasize

1140
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: that what they did hurt both of you. You focus

1141
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: on these posts and how horrible it would be to

1142
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: upset your mother in law, But if she doesn't worry

1143
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: about how much you were upset, and that show she

1144
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: doesn't think very much of you. You very clear that

1145
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: Katie and Jordan are both responsible for causing you and

1146
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: Dan a lot of pain. They broke the big happy family,

1147
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: and until they do the work to repair it, you

1148
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: and Dan are both done with them, and by work,

1149
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't just mean a half hearted apology that you

1150
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: were upset, means a real, sincere apology about what they

1151
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: did wrong and steps of how they will make it

1152
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: up to you. Nope, he said, I didn't even realize that,

1153
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: but you're right. It would speak volumes if how this

1154
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: impacted us doesn't make an impact on how she feels

1155
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: about the situation. It isn't fair for her to put

1156
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: the burden of a good relationship with them solely on

1157
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: us when they do nothing but show us how they

1158
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: aren't worth it. Update number two again two days later.

1159
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: Let's go before I start, I feel compelled to share

1160
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: in case anyone was wondering that Dan is one hundred

1161
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: percent supportive of me sharing this story with all of you.

1162
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: I introduced him to these videos when we first started dating,

1163
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: and we often watched them together. This morning after the wedding,

1164
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: when we were discussing everything, he goes well on the

1165
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: right side. At least he got a story for the subreddit.

1166
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: Quick background I mentioned in a comment or two, but

1167
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: not in either of my posts because I was trying

1168
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: not to ramble. After the Christmas blow up, Dan had

1169
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: told mother in law that we really didn't want to

1170
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: invite Jordan and Katie to our wedding. We had invited

1171
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: people from all different types of backgrounds and did not

1172
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: want Jordan to say or do anything that would make

1173
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: anyone feel uncomfortable. Mother in law begged and pleaded, saying

1174
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: that Jordan would never do.

1175
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: You mean he would never, He's already done it.

1176
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: He's done it, done it, that she would watch him

1177
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: like a hawk all night, and that she would disown

1178
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: him if he ever did anything, et cetera.

1179
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: But he already has. Yeah, you haven't disowned him. So

1180
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: that's a lot badly that didn't have.

1181
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: So I learned a couple of new things about Katie

1182
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: and Jordan's behavior at the wedding. I heard from a

1183
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: few different people that Katie and Jordan were being snarky

1184
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: and dismissive to guests, including to some of my family.

1185
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: I didn't know exactly what was said, but I do

1186
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: know that the Bartenders had to cut Jordan off halfway

1187
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: through the reception because of how much he was starting

1188
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: to act up. Now you can do whatever you want

1189
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: to hurt me. That's one thing, but as a proud

1190
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: Italian American Mussolini full circle, don't you dare f with

1191
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: my family? That was truly the last straw. I told

1192
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: Dan what happened, and we were both on the same

1193
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: page that we are absolutely not going to their wedding

1194
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: under any circumstances.

1195
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: Bazzah.

1196
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: We had kind of already made the decision, but we

1197
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: both knew there could be a way mother in law

1198
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: could talk us into it. Not anymore, it was going

1199
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: to be a hard no. After finding all this out,

1200
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: I finally broke down about the situation and after a

1201
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: good cry, decided I needed to go on a nice

1202
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: long run. Well while I was running, my amazing husband

1203
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: to get upon himself to give his mom a call

1204
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: and have the talk right then, and it went surprisingly well.

1205
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: Apparently she didn't even argue, not once. She completely understood

1206
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: why we wouldn't go based on the dress incident alone,

1207
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: and said she had no idea why Katie would do

1208
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: such a thing. When my husband told her about Jordan

1209
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: being rude and getting cut off at the wedding, she

1210
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: was mortified and apologized profusely. She even acknowledged that something

1211
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: like that was exactly why we didn't want to invite

1212
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: them in the first place, and she was so sorry.

1213
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: Mother in law is not a subtle person. She's basically

1214
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: a combo of Kitty from that seventy show and Miss

1215
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: Weasley from Harry Potter. That is a wild combo. By

1216
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: the way, similar That is a loud you know, No,

1217
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: I just mean that, that's like a kitty. That's that's

1218
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: a big combo.

1219
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: They would, they would, they would destroy the world.

1220
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: I think I would love and I would love to

1221
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: watch it, but not gonna lie.

1222
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: That's a very loud combination. Oh yeah.

1223
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: So if she didn't agree with us or understand our

1224
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: point of view, she would let us know and probably

1225
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: call me direct. But she didn't, So I truly believe

1226
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: if she blames anyone, she does not blame fault us

1227
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: for this decision. As some people suggested, Husband and I

1228
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: will be using the money we would have spent on

1229
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: going to the wedding on a trip to visit his

1230
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: chosen brother, his best man and college roommate in Toronto

1231
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: during that weekend.

1232
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: So much more fun than visiting the bigots.

1233
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: Yes, bigot wedding in Bahamas or brother in Toronto. There

1234
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: we go, and yes, we will post all the pictures

1235
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: of us having the best time. While I'm not going

1236
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: to be living out my petty dreams in the Bahamas

1237
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: in a cream dress, I'll still be listening to Lovely

1238
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: Slaughter's petty af because what a bob Knowing I didn't

1239
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: piss off my future in laws before I was even

1240
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: a part of the family.

1241
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: Relevant comments.

1242
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: Op responds to her mother in law taking the news

1243
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: very well that she and her husband are not going

1244
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: to the wedding. I was so worried about telling mother

1245
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: in law. I totally forgot about the chaos that will

1246
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: be unleashed when the guests of dishonor find out. Honestly,

1247
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: knowing I'll be able to share it with all of

1248
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: you makes it less daunting. I truly got so low

1249
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: with my in laws and husband. And by the way,

1250
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: you are truly lucky that you can listen to full

1251
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: episodes with stories like this on iHeartRadio and Spotify and

1252
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Apple podcast wherever you listen. Just search okay storytime, Yeah,

1253
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: and you can find all these stories you could ever

1254
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: listen to.

1255
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: You to your hearts content.

1256
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: That's true.

1257
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: Uh Okay, And we do have a little bit more

1258
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: story here. Let's dive right in. Let's finish her off.

1259
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that bad people attract bad people,

1260
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: and a big party of bad people, there's some major

1261
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: drama bound to happen. If you get to know any

1262
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: drama that happens in Jordan's wedding, please write about that,

1263
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: Opi says, solid point. And that was one of the

1264
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: reasons we didn't want to go. But I didn't even

1265
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: think of the stories we'd have. Thankfully, mother in law

1266
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: has a couple of sisters that love the gossip, so

1267
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: if anything does go down, I will definitely share. And

1268
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: commentary says, you're probably the favorite daughter in law. It's okay,

1269
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: I am too in my family and it's great. Opie says,

1270
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I think so too, lol. And honestly, that's probably gonna

1271
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: be really bothersome to Katie because she always needed to

1272
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: be the center of attention. Maybe not right away, but

1273
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: it definitely will in the long run. Three says, why

1274
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: did mother in law cut him off like she said

1275
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: she would if he did those things? Why isn't she

1276
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: at least not going to the wedding. She should at

1277
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: least demand they apologize to both of you, regardless of

1278
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: whether or not you go. She needs to start setting

1279
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: some boundaries with him, or she will eventually lose Dan

1280
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: and get stuck with Jess Jordan and will drag them

1281
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: down to his level. And that's true, OPI said. We

1282
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: knew she was never going to disown it no matter what.

1283
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: It's been implied to me in the past that he

1284
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: may be violent, which wouldn't surprise me in the least,

1285
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: so that probably has something to do with it, and

1286
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: the fact that they will likely give me grandkids right away.

1287
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: But for sure, if she doesn't set the boundary now

1288
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: at this point, they're only going to be hurting her

1289
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: going forward. And honestly, that is the end of that story.

1290
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sam. We're going get back to the stories.

1291
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 3: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

1292
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: My in laws left us homeless and broke it ruined

1293
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: my life. We'll just think about how hard it was

1294
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: for them to make you go through that. I'm just so.

1295
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: My husband, let's call him Ben twenty seven male and

1296
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: I twenty five female, moved in with his parents two

1297
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: years into our relationship due to his dad having a

1298
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: medical condition. Turns out it was from substance abuse aka

1299
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: bugo sugar nose claims and kneeding around the clockcare. So

1300
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: we were told by the way this comes from civil

1301
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: technology seventy eight seventeen and if you want to spit

1302
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 2: your own stories, go to our slash okay storytime separate it.

1303
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: So little backstory. My husband was always supporting them by

1304
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: paying bills, food, and whenever they asked, giving them three

1305
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: hundred to five hundred dollars, even after he moved out

1306
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: and was on his own for over two years. Ben

1307
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 2: and I helped them move multiple times and even once

1308
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: by ourselves in the rain while his parents gave him

1309
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: an excuse that they were not able to pack because

1310
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: of another eviction and the landlord was against them and

1311
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: they were at a hospital in a different state, causing

1312
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: us to do what we could. In one night after this,

1313
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: they played on my heartstrings, manipulating me and lying to

1314
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: us saying they needed us down there and not knowing

1315
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: how much time he had left At the time. It

1316
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: was in the middle of a career change for Ben

1317
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: and I really believed them, so we both moved up

1318
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 2: their to help. We ended up finding an apartment to

1319
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: accommodate all five of us, my husband and I, his brother,

1320
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: and his parents. We were then informed a couple weeks

1321
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 2: after moving our life to help them that he would

1322
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: not be doing treatments and just writing it out. We

1323
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: didn't know it was because of substances until later on.

1324
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: We would give them four hundred dollars per month for

1325
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: our portion of the rent, on top of helping with

1326
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: groceries and other things. His mother would have the same

1327
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: deal four hundred dollars per month and help with groceries,

1328
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: but he never paid and Bed would always be pressed

1329
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: about not contributing enough. We had no privacy to ourselves,

1330
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: with his mom always barging into a room, stealing clothes, shoes,

1331
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: and makeup from me and then taking it for herself

1332
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: or mysteriously losing it. This caused strain on our relationship

1333
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: and made us fight a lot due to his parents'

1334
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 2: boundary issues and lack of needing care, seeing as they

1335
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: would leave for days at a time, saying they went

1336
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: to casinos or stayed at a hotel for a while,

1337
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: going out to eat every night in different restaurants. Well,

1338
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: his parents stopped paying rent completely for about eight months,

1339
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: even though we were giving them our portion which resulted

1340
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: in eviction. That is so annoying. You guys were paying

1341
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 2: them the whole time, and they just weren't paying any

1342
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: of that rent to the people that were supposed to repaying.

1343
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: Just makes you think, where did it go? Where did

1344
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: it go? Where did the money go?

1345
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: Went to the nose claim?

1346
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: His parents and brother decided to destroy and vandalize the

1347
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: apartment after we left. I he nailed polish on the

1348
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: toilet and in the shower, a large adult toy oh

1349
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: suction to the wall, riding on the wall, as well

1350
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: syrup in the walls. Why syrup in the walls? Why

1351
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: how did they do that? Were?

1352
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: What?

1353
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: How are we?

1354
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: This was a father's son combo, his parent, father, mother's son.

1355
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: Our lease had already been up too, yeah, and we

1356
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: were paying month month until we found something else. They

1357
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: forged another lease, didn't have our permission to add us

1358
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: to another lease, and stated that Ben was responsible in

1359
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: the case that things weren't paid or were destroyed. Unfortunately

1360
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: for us, the total for the apartment it was around

1361
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars. On the move, we were all homeless,

1362
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: living in our car with all of our stuff stuck

1363
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: in a U haul, But found a place where the

1364
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: guy was going to sell the house, but agreed that

1365
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: we could rent until we got the closing cost, or

1366
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: if we wanted to leave, we could after six months.

1367
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: The plan was to use the money we all had

1368
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: our half, my husband's credit and his parents half. We

1369
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: all could live in this three bad, two bath home

1370
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: for six months. Instead of using the money to get

1371
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: us off the streets, they paid for his cousin to

1372
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: have his lights turned back on at his place, where

1373
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: the floors were unfinished and holes were not done. I'm

1374
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: sort did you give them your money? I'm confused if

1375
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: they the parents just use their money to do this,

1376
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: or if they took all everyone's money, because in which case,

1377
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: like you guys should absolutely like have realized that these

1378
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: people were very untrustworthy from the last thing.

1379
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: It was a situation where like they were planning to

1380
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: use like all of their money and then the husband's

1381
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: credit and all of the parents' money, and then we're

1382
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: going to all lump it together and like yeah, and

1383
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: then instead of doing that, the parents were like, by

1384
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: the way, we saved our money to we used our

1385
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: money to help the cousin turn his lights on, which

1386
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: is like dude, we're actively homeless.

1387
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: I think you just have to pay your help you guys. Yeah,

1388
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna be able to get out

1389
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 2: of the situation with their help because they seem like

1390
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: really really unreliable. Yep and awful. The place smelled of

1391
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: old milk and mold, walls were unfinished, windows broken, and

1392
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: the place was littered with trash. The place could have

1393
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: been condemned. Well, this cause to falling out and we

1394
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: got all of our stuff out of storage and house hopped,

1395
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: staying somewhere different every night. Eventually we stayed with my

1396
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: brother while he was working, trying to save and get

1397
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: our own apartment. Well, they used our credit card how.

1398
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, how not completely financially removed from you yet like

1399
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: and racked.

1400
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 2: About two k on it. How When confronted they gaslet

1401
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: and threatened. Ben refused to help us pay anything on it.

1402
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: And that is when we went no contact for a

1403
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: year and a half. Why aren't you declaring like fraud

1404
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: on this, Yeah you can.

1405
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: You can call your your bank and be like, I'm

1406
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: sure they probably did so you're like, weed, this was fraud.

1407
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: This was no leave or not authorized sanctioned purchase. We

1408
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: got married in that time at the courthouse and just

1409
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: wanted it to be for us. We started getting back

1410
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: in contact because we wanted to give them a second

1411
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: chance in order for them to know their grandchild. No, no, no,

1412
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: you get back in contact with someone who's been awful

1413
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 2: to you should only happen if they have completely turned

1414
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: their life around and are actively trying to improve the

1415
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: relationship with you. We went from no contact to low contact,

1416
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: easing back into it and protecting ourselves and our child.

1417
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: After a few months, Ben's mother called me from the hospital,

1418
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: claiming to have had a stroke. It was a mix

1419
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: of medications causing an allergic reaction, and apparently I was

1420
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: the only one who could understand her. A few days

1421
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: go by after she had called about the stroke, she

1422
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: called again, literally screaming and crying for help, saying that

1423
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: Ben's father and brother were leaving her in her own

1424
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: urine and feces and needed help. She was unable to

1425
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: take care of herself at this point, so I called

1426
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: Ben at work on a super important day and he

1427
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: left work, came home and got me and my child

1428
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: for us to meet his parents halfway for his mom

1429
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: to come stay with us. For a while, and I'd

1430
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: help her and get her to the doctor's appointments that

1431
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: she needed. His dad showed up the next morning, slept

1432
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: all day on her couch, and then once Ben was

1433
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: at work, his parents left. Mother in law knew that

1434
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: she would have stayed for months and that I was

1435
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: making appointments like she had asked me to, but according

1436
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: to father in law, that was never the plan. The

1437
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: day I made the appointments for mother in law, I

1438
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: looked through her medical files and learned that she had

1439
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: faked a stroke. After all of this, Ben was absolutely done,

1440
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: texted them telling them that it will not happen again

1441
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: and he has his family to think about, saying I

1442
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: was an amazing wife and did what any normal person

1443
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: would do in that situation. He went no contact, didn't

1444
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: speak to them, but I kept low contact here and there.

1445
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 2: Why if the person whose parents is like I don't

1446
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: want to have contact, don't have contact with.

1447
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: Them, at least not until they get clean. Dude, these

1448
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: people need to Why would you want these.

1449
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: People anywhere around your child? Addressed that, yeah, why would you?

1450
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: Recently we received something in the mail stating that there

1451
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: was a credit card opened in Ben's name for the

1452
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: state and county as parents lived in opened almost a

1453
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: month before the eviction from the apartments. We never used

1454
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: this credit card company, and due to the holes in

1455
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: their stories, we believed it was his parents who opened

1456
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: the credit card. Horse it was. They've already done that horse,

1457
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: it was obviously so I e saying that they didn't

1458
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: have a po box, but then turning around and saying

1459
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: that they had one for him since he was a baby,

1460
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: And the bill for that was almost two K. Again, yeah,

1461
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: so that's fraud.

1462
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: Should be legally held aliable for I.

1463
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: Don't understand why we're not like changing all of our

1464
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: cot all of our pass words and all everything. They

1465
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: might just be conditioned, you know. So in total there

1466
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: was eleven K and debt. Well, Ben and I had

1467
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: a baby and decided that we wanted to try and

1468
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: get a house. When we were told that because of

1469
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: the charges from the apartment and the credit card were done,

1470
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: we were unable to get alone. Even with speaking to

1471
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: the debt collection agencies, we were only able to get

1472
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 2: the apartment priced down to half, which we asked his

1473
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: parents to pay a little bit towards since we have

1474
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: a toddler and cannot afford love some all at once

1475
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: to get it removed from our credit to get a

1476
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: home loan, and they never applied.

1477
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to start operating from the position that

1478
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: we know how these people act and behave, and then

1479
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: like informing our behavior based on that instead of just

1480
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,479
Speaker 1: still relying on them financially or being surprised that they've

1481
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: defrauded us.

1482
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: But uh, you should never be surprised that you can

1483
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: listen to full episodes of stories just like this. Just

1484
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeartRadio and search a

1485
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,959
Speaker 2: Bookay story time. I don't understand why we're still talking

1486
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: to these people when you have a baby, Yeah, when

1487
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: they've defrauded you, when they freaking they're stealing your credit cards,

1488
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: putting you down on a lease and then getting you

1489
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: to have to pay seven thousand dollars in fines, Like,

1490
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: why are we talking to them? Why are we asking

1491
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 2: them for anything?

1492
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1493
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: I understand need help, but they're not gonna help you.

1494
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 2: They're actually they're probably gonna make it much worse.

1495
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going to actively hamper you. Yeah, that's what's

1496
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen.

1497
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left. We've since gone

1498
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: no contact. So I guess what I'm getting at is

1499
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: are we the ales for asking them to help us

1500
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: pay and going no contact? Edit? This has all happened

1501
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: in the span of five years. We were homeless about

1502
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: three years ago for a year. Wow. We didn't have

1503
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: a child until after We were in a stable house,

1504
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: and we just recently filed for home loan, but we

1505
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: were denied due to the credit card fraud and forgery.

1506
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 2: We are filing police reports and doing everything we can

1507
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: to correct the issues. Comment ones is, how did you

1508
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 2: ever decide to marry into this madness and then add

1509
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 2: a baby to the mix? Obie says, because oddly enough,

1510
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: my husband isn't like his family. That was down voted? Yeah,

1511
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 2: why was that downvoted? I went to OMG, why at

1512
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: any time did you not go to the police. Frankly,

1513
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Speaker 2: this is one hundred percent of you, you poor chi

1514
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: should it p have gone to the police much earlier?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Did you war to get into the in law's

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Speaker 1: brains and make them that you defrauded yourself? Yeah, it's

1517
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: like no, it's absolutely not. Yeah, it's maybe like twenty percent.

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Speaker 2: Comment three why do you keep putting yourself in this

1519
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: situation like, seriously, your husband went no contact and you

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01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: still were low contact. I'm sorry to say this after

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Speaker 2: every everything you've been through, but you're the a hole

1522
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: to yourself at this point file fraud charges all your

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01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: husband's lead and go no contact. Think of your child

1524
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: and what future bes this lady has in store.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Honestly, the lack of rectifying the fraud, that's that is.

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: That's actually that is.

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Speaker 2: Like you could have rectified it and been like, hey,

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01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 2: well maybe you know, maybe you don't get all of

1529
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: that money back, but certainly before it gets to another

1530
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: like no, you probably could.

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Speaker 1: You probably a lot of times, like you know, they

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Speaker 1: do their own investigations and stuff. They weren't authorized to

1533
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: use that card, and you're like, yeah, they I had

1534
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: my credit card essentially stolen, and then they bought they

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01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, they racked up two kne dead and they go,

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01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: all right, well they start not liable for that exactly

1537
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: because it's fraud.

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Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story.