WEBVTT - Favorite 10 BobbyCast Moments of 2023! (Part 2) 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:07.040 Ladies and gentlemen, we are experiencing technical difficulties. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:09.760 This is the Bobby Cast. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.120 Hey, everybody, welcome back to the top ten best Bobby 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.720 Cast moments. At twenty twenty three, let's do the top 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.239 five Bobby Casts of the year, and not just my 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.320 picks because in the last episode at Adam Durretz from 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:27.000 County Crow's one of my favorites, but also we're factoring 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:28.840 in all the episodes and how many times they've been 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.360 downloaded or streams, So you guys are a part of 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.160 this as well. If you miss part one, go back 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.320 check it out. So we'll do some clips. Jake Owen 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.960 at number five, episode three eighty one, And it's kind 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.240 of cool, sometimes weird, sometimes hard when it's a friend 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.920 that comes in because I already know a lot of things, 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:49.760 so it makes it weirder for me to ask questions 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.479 if I already know the answer. But this one it 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.040 was fun because not only is he a friend, but 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.360 it got emotional when he was talking about the highlight 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.360 of his career and also his sobriety and a health 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.560 update after going to the hospital exhaustion. Here he is 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:06.400 Jake Owen at number five from episode three eighty one, 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.160 And you said I haven't slept on a long time. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.080 That's what I'd come to find out after going to 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.679 the hospital. That's my only issue. I literally do not sleep. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.320 Anything that's happened since then. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:16.000 What was that about? 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:19.279 That was about me not sleeping? Man, I just wasn't sleeping. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.200 I was losing a lot of weight. I was probably 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.000 just like getting all I don't know, it's weird because 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.480 I'm not really been doing anything any different since then. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.280 Sometimes you just need people to tell you're okay. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:31.800 Really, is that what they told you? 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:32.200 You're okay? 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.000 Yeah, everybody's like they were, Yeah, they they were Like 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.880 they made me feel better than I did by just 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.839 telling me things that I don't know that I needed. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.040 They were just telling me honest things, like I'd convinced 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.120 myself I was, you know, dying, Like I'm going to 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.080 die out here on the road. Like I'm out here, 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:49.760 you know, doing this all the time, and I'm missing 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.800 little things back home, and my family's like been affected 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.120 by it, and I don't want this to be the 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:57.680 way that life's supposed to be, Like this is what 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.520 I love? Like, why is it the thing I love? 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.360 It's like that song by Alan Jackson. You know everything 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:05.920 I love I'm want to have to give up because 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.120 everything I love is killing me. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:09.760 That's how I felt like. I felt like I was 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.000 living an Alan Jackson song. 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.079 So, whenever you find out that something isn't really wrong 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.120 with you, does that change your perspective? 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.120 Did you live a different way? 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:21.360 Like was there? 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:22.560 Was it lighter? 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:22.959 Yeah? 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:23.960 I think so. I don't know. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.480 I think Eric would tell you that. I just I think, 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:30.000 if anything, what I found out was is kind of 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.040 what Caitlin was saying earlier, like just kind of like 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.400 relax a little bit and everything's gonna be okay. Like 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.360 don't you can convince yourself such negative things when that's 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.560 all you stress on and harp on. But when you're like, hey, 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.360 nothing I worry about over the next fifteen or twenty minutes, 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.840 which to personally, sometimes. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.160 To all of us, can seem like a lifetime. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.000 Whatever those next You could spend those next fifteen or 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.160 twenty minutes just doing something different, being finding something else 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:56.120 to be happy about. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.720 Do you feel like you're a happier person now than five. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.919 Years ago than five years ago? I hope? 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:02.799 So three years ago? 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.679 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I hope I'm happier today 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:06.440 than I was yesterday. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.600 Do you feel like you are purposefully happy? 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.560 I feel like I'm still figuring everything out, man, I don't. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.440 I feel like I'm still like I'm forty one, but 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.720 I still feel like that twenty two three year old 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.440 kid that drove here, Like I know I can do this. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:26.880 I'm excited to do it. Like can I you still 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:27.200 that guy? 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.239 I feel more positive I still am to me than 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:32.840 in past years. 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:38.960 Yeah, I mean because well, thankfully thanks. I don't. I'm not. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.440 I don't intentionally wake up every day and go like 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.960 I'm gonna be way more positive today, which I probably should. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:46.200 I try to preach that. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:49.720 I think people listen to my music and the type 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.440 of music I put out would think that, like, man, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.480 this guy's barefoot and in the sunshine all the time, 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:57.640 and he's just like he's a dude, like and I 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.680 am what I have just like everyone else. You know, 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.120 things that I'm just trying to be better at. I 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.080 try to learn something each day, so we talk about 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.480 the masterclass stuff like I try to. I looked at 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.840 Erica this morning and was like, hey, we like like 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.400 we have a lot of friends, right now going through 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.240 like a lot of crazy stuff. And and that's what 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.320 even Tyler Hubbard not to drop his name again, said 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:17.719 to me at lunch and he's like, how's everything with you? 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:18.280 Man? Everything good? 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.479 And I'm like, yeah, it's awesome, Like life is great, man. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.160 And I say that because just this morning I told Eric, 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.080 I was like so many friends going through so much 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:31.440 stuff right now that like we're not and life is good. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.960 And that's when you really have to like, when life 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.159 is good is when you really need to be thankful 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.440 for it. Then when life isn't and you're it's like 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.560 when you're sick and you're you were trying to remember 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.200 what it felt like to feel good. And so I 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.279 feel really good right now and I want to remember 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.719 what this feels like. And I want that to spread 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:52.160 throughout my family as well and hopefully telling other people too, man, 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:52.839 life is great. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:53.400 It's awesome. 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.880 That also helps them because nobody wants to hear someone say, hey, man, 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.920 how's everything and then you sit there and listen to 0:04:59.000 --> 0:04:59.360 them just. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:02.640 You know, nobody wants to hear that. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:07.520 More front lobe, front lobe all day, baby, let's go, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.440 that's the that's the saying stay in that front lobe. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.280 Man trademark that so the front because the front lobe does. 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.680 What front lobe, from what I've learned, is where you 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.120 know your majority of children really live and until they 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:25.480 progressively you know, through experiences and things like that, you 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.240 tend to live more with the way we're wired as 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:33.840 humans in a more backlob brain front lobe being more joyful, creative, spontaneous, 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:38.400 care free, all those which are great qualities. Rear being 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:44.200 more protective, anxious, the things that we don't really need 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:44.839 in our lives. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.880 So you can have the choice of where you kind 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:47.360 of want to live. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.800 You do not have Jaco in dot com, but you 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:50.880 have Jaco and dot net. 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:52.520 Yes, what's the deal? 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.360 What will they not sell it to? Or are they 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.400 asking an insurmount of amount of money I'd rather? 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.159 I don't know. I don't never really thought of it 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:00.760 that way. I just knew it. When I couldn't get 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.680 the calm, I was like, I'm cool with net. You 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:04.320 know what I mean. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.800 I'm about that Net sounds front love to me. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.919 Yeah, so I was cool that. I never really overthought 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:10.680 it like that. So you asked me, I don't know 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.599 that I've rever you know now he goes Backlobe now 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.080 Glow Viral Sounds Club, do the manager? 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.240 Why do I not have jacoon dot Com? 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:20.880 Now I got a couple more questions for you. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.640 There was a story about you in the Tennessee n 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.760 because there was a restaurant and Kaitlin and were having lunch. 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:29.920 We saw a big line coming out of a place 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:31.920 where we re lunch. We're like, one, what's going on 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:33.039 over there? Then we found out I was a place 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.320 that was closing after I don't know how many years, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.000 and they were closing because they wanted to close, they 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.600 wanted to retire, and they were doing these stories about 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.559 it leading up to it. And there was a story 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.080 and you weren't interview for the story. It wasn't you 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.160 putting it out there, but the owner of the story. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.880 And I'm gonna have you tell it, but don't, oh Man, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.800 just like literally tell it. I'm begging you to tell 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.440 the story as is. The story was about you helping 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.080 them out years and years ago. It never came out 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.200 until she told the story. Can you tell me that story? 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.240 Yeah? And I told you this. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.919 That's why I was so flattered by it. Really, And 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.120 there's a great George Steinbrenner quote that I saw on 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.960 the wall when I went to Yankee Stadium one time 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.120 that says, like, you do good things for other people, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.720 but if someone else finds out about it, then you 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.600 did it for the wrong reasons. Like you you're supposed 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.320 to do good things for people because it's the thing 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:22.160 to do, not for the people to talk about it. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.480 And so this. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.400 Particular scenario, when I moved to town, which is a 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.440 great kind of segue off of what we all talked 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.120 about earlier, I would go to Arnold's on Eighth Avenue 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.080 because it kind of felt like home to me, Like 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.960 my mom always made like home cooking, and I grew 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.800 up that way down home, down South with my grandmam, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.280 my granddad. My nanny was a good cook still is. 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:45.960 And so I'd go in there and have like raire 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.440 roast beef and mashed potatoes and gravy and whatever. And 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.040 I got to know the people that owned Arnold's, which 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.679 has been there since I think the fifties, and everybody 0:07:55.680 --> 0:08:00.120 from Dolly Parton to Charlie, you know, John Prime, all 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.000 kinds of folks going there. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.280 And I just loved it. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.520 It's like meeting three meaning you go in there and 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.920 grab your your tray and walk down the line and 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:09.960 grab the food that you want to grab. And so 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:14.360 I would do that. And uh, Jordan Spieth is calling me. 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:15.320 Should I answer this? 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:15.480 Ye? 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:16.000 Answer it? 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:17.600 He did this to me on an interview one time. 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.320 Answer what's up? 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:22.000 What's up? 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:23.360 Telling with me? 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.360 I am a very random I am in the middle 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:31.200 of an interview right now, and I'm with Bobby Bones. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.079 Actually I'm doing a radio like a set a podcast. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:35.880 And I said, and my phone was ringing. I was 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.520 gonna send it to voicemail and then a lot like 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.040 the last time you were on an interview, I guess 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.840 always like Jake, Oh, it's calling your phone, So I said, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.640 I had to answer. So are you just excited about 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.440 our playing possibilities coming up? 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.839 I'm just really excited that we're finally. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:52.199 Going to win the. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.040 I'm going playing together. 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.680 We are, Yeah, we are. Yeah, I'm going off. I 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.920 will I will, I will buzz I'll buzz you back. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.800 All right, sounds good to see it. See you buddy, 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:07.880 he's right here. See man. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:10.440 Never heard of him anyway. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.679 That's so cool man, like you have like you know 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.400 what I mean, Like that's cool, Like I know that 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.600 he's even my partner, but like sometimes I'm like, are 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:18.400 we really partners? 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.160 We're buddies. You know, that's cool to get a call awesome. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.840 I mean I played with him because you were like, hey, 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:25.679 you should play with him, and you call Jordan. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.400 You're like, hey, yeah, play with Bobby and I play. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:28.360 Awesome, dude, he's a great. 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:28.640 Yeah. 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.200 So you're you're at this restaurant. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:35.640 At this restaurant, uh, and I meet you know, Rose Arnold, 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:41.200 who's who runs it, and her son's Khalil Mons, France. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:42.440 She has two daughters. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.160 I got to know all them for years, and Uh, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.600 one of the times I was in there visiting, Mons 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.600 was going through UH had. 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.680 Like some type of a brain tumor. I think it was. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.200 I had to have surgery like on his on his 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.160 skull to remove this or do some sort of procedure. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.400 And they were really worried. She was worried about how 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:01.680 they were going to fly with the pressure. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.280 And I don't know, just I have a tour bus, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.360 so I wasn't thinking or anything like just take my 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:06.800 tour bus. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:07.600 I'm not on the road. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.000 Take it up there. My driver will pick you guys up. Tomorrow, 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.440 take you there, bring you back whatever you need, like 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.000 just say, And they did. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.960 What year was at I don't guess two. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:22.160 Thousand and ten maybe, I guess twenty ten probably, And 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.440 they were always so sweet about it, you know, like 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.240 I go in there like I always did, and like 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.199 there'd be times where they would just be like, hey, 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.280 we want to take care of your lunch or something 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:31.439 like you don't have to do that, like it's not 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.920 a big deal. They just always treated me like their family. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.440 And anyways, it was really flattering to think that as 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.160 many people they've had come through that restaurant, as many 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.920 scenarios and the types of folks that have come through there, 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.960 and all the incredible stories I'm sure they have to 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.560 share for what that restaurant became to people, like a 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:54.760 second home, a place of comfort. Like to think that 0:10:55.240 --> 0:11:01.000 when I saw that article that day, like it got 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.920 to me because there are times where you wonder if, 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:09.680 like when you do good for people like theyre you 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.280 don't do it, like I said, because but you do 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:12.880 it because you hope that they remember the kind of 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:13.400 person you are. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.400 And it just made my day. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.280 I was like, dang, like they could have talked about 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.280 anything over the last fifty years of this restaurant, and 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.840 she just happened to talk about me doing that for 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:29.280 them and to me to be able to be remembered 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.000 for that kind of thing. Forget everyone else knowing, because 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.760 I never wanted, never cared for anyone else to know, 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.480 but that it meant enough to her and their family 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.720 that they remembered me like that and not like she 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.679 didn't say, like this guy was a singer, you know whatever, 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.360 Like it was just someone that did something for them 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.959 and their family. Like that's what I that's that's my 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.400 coolest story about Nashville so far, like people of what 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:51.520 people remember me for. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.000 So that was cool, man, Yeah, yeah. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:59.400 It's cool. And number four it's Dan and Shay for 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:00.520 episode four fourteen. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.800 It's a big one because they shocked everyone on social 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.080 media with the news that they almost split up. So 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:06.640 it was nice to sit down with them and hear 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:07.880 their sides of the story. 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:09.880 We talked for a full hour. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.640 They shared what they did to create their healthier friendship 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.800 and what they talked about in their conversation that saved 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.360 the band. And remember, if you want to hear the 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.480 whole thing, go back and check out episode four to 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.560 fourteen with Dan and Shay here. They are my number 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.959 four moment. Sometimes when I make a change in my life, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.840 it's got to be because it gets to a point 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:31.199 that it is so drastic that I can realize it 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.120 where it's oh, I'm not in a good place. I 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.280 mean when I went to on site, I wasn't in 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.480 a good place. So it took me to actually hit 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.040 we'll call bottom. You know, my mom would go to rehab, 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.280 she would hit bottom, and then she would go would 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.920 you say in you guys's relationship, because you got to 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.400 hit a bottom to get to actually have the desire 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.760 to get out of it or to get back in it. 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:52.800 That's a great point. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.560 If you never hit that rock bottom, you might not 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.000 realize something's wrong or that you need to make a change. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.360 And I had it for you guys. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:00.880 I absolutely hit rock bottom. I'll you know, speak on 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:02.760 my side of that story and you know shake and 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:03.320 speak on his. 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.880 But that date was December. It was like first week 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:08.960 at December. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.600 Of twenty twenty one, so this was when we finished 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.280 the arena tour. You know, you work your whole life 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:14.640 to get to a place where you can sell out 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.040 an arena tour we did. We put that on sale 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.760 in October of twenty nineteen, you know when ten thousand 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.480 Hours with Bieber came out. Put this tour up, sell 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.559 out MSG We sold out Staples Center, two nights at Bridgetone, 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.360 like all these bucket liss milestones. We're riding high. It's amazing, 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.000 and then boom COVID happens. It's all gone, and it's like, man, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.040 what a that'll mess with your head. So we're juggling 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:36.840 that for a couple of years. We finally get back 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.600 out there. We did the tour. Shout out to our 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.840 team and you know, everybody out on the road, the promoters, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.079 you know in the fans for hanging out of those tickets, 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:48.280 like it was a tremendous success given the circumstances. But 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.120 I think I was chasing a lot of the wrong things, 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.440 you know, speaking to the bigger houses. Thing a little bit, comparison. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.720 We all know that comparison is the thief of all joy, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.000 and I think we all get caught up in that, 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.720 especially when everything is so on display. Was social media. 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.520 You know, you can look at stats, you can look 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.080 at likes, Everything is just so right there for you 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.040 to compare yourself to the best of the best of 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.320 what somebody else is putting out. And I think I 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:10.840 was caught up in that in a crazy way. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:11.640 On social media. 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.840 I was, you know, being the content guy because we're 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.760 too stubborn to have somebody help us with it, which 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.480 we need to change that at some point. But you know, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.480 We're on the biggest tour of our lives and I'm like, well, crap, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.520 you know, we sold out last night. Let me make 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.400 this video of us doing you know, We're in Tulsa 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.200 at the Bok Center and I'm like, we got to 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.200 get this content of us like jumping in the crowds 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:31.920 here and that stuff's all cool. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.680 But it was like all to like let. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.080 The industry know that we're out here doing well. And 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.440 I was chasing that too much and not enjoying the moment. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.280 I was like maybe looking forward too much to what 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.480 was next, and I just really spiraled. It made me 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.120 resent music because I wasn't doing anything that was related 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.360 to music. It was like all in the name of 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.040 trying to get content, and it was like I was 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.160 not appreciating the fact that there were fans there singing 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.160 the words back to us and that wasn't appreciating the 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.840 fact that I was getting to sing with my best 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.680 friend or play with our band who we grew up with. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:06.040 Like all these incredible, incredible moments passed me by, and December, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:07.040 you know, came around. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:07.440 Twenty twenty one. 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.400 We finished the tour in Boston and I got off 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.600 stage more like defeated than I had ever been. And 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:14.520 you know how it is, It's like, it's really hard 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.160 to be in this position. And I don't want to 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.560 sound like I'm complaining about it, but I think that's 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.320 why a lot there's a lot of mental health issues 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.360 and depression in our industry, because if you're really struggling 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:28.040 with something to the public, you feel this responsibility to 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.880 be a superhero. You feel this responsibility to be unbreakable. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.560 You know, like on stage you have to be like, 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.080 this is the best night of my life, when in 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.800 deep down you could be like, I'm really hurting right now, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.400 you know. And this was before we knew to talk 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.880 to each other, to be open about it with our fans. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.040 You know, this is a whole new chapter in an 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.080 amazing era. But that moment I got off stage and 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:50.800 I was like, I'm done. I don't know if I 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.240 could ever do this again. And I didn't really say 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.240 that to anyone. I think Abby kind of knew it. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.480 But she is so patient, so incredible, so encouraging with 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.800 me to kind of work through these issues, you know, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.440 work on myself. And I came home from that and. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.000 I like literally laid on the couch. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.840 You know, I'm always going, always doing something, just like 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.480 you man, always on the move, always grinding, and that 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.400 was like the first time in a long time that 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.360 I just kind of laid there for like two weeks 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.640 to process everything. I was like, I might be done, 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.960 I might retire whatever, moved back to my hometown, figure 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:22.240 it out. 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:23.560 But like I've I'm burnout. 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.560 It was like the most extreme burnout I had ever felt, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.440 and I felt like I needed to get myself right 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.640 first before I made any progress with Shay and our relationship, 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.480 whether we were going to keep the band together or whatever. 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.040 It was like I needed to get myself right on 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.080 a personal level. I need to fall back in love 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.040 with music. And you know, after doing a lot of 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.400 soul searching, I realized that previous year I'd written four 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.560