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Speaker 2: This is the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the top ten best Bobby

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Speaker 3: Cast moments. At twenty twenty three, let's do the top

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Speaker 3: five Bobby Casts of the year, and not just my

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Speaker 3: picks because in the last episode at Adam Durretz from

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Speaker 3: County Crow's one of my favorites, but also we're factoring

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Speaker 3: this as well. If you miss part one, go back

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Speaker 3: check it out. So we'll do some clips. Jake Owen

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Speaker 3: at number five, episode three eighty one, And it's kind

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Speaker 3: of cool, sometimes weird, sometimes hard when it's a friend

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Speaker 3: that comes in because I already know a lot of things,

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Speaker 3: so it makes it weirder for me to ask questions

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Speaker 3: if I already know the answer. But this one it

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Speaker 3: was fun because not only is he a friend, but

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Speaker 3: it got emotional when he was talking about the highlight

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Speaker 3: of his career and also his sobriety and a health

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Speaker 3: update after going to the hospital exhaustion. Here he is

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Speaker 3: Jake Owen at number five from episode three eighty one,

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Speaker 3: And you said I haven't slept on a long time.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'd come to find out after going to

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Speaker 3: the hospital. That's my only issue. I literally do not sleep.

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Speaker 4: Anything that's happened since then.

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Speaker 5: What was that about?

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Speaker 6: That was about me not sleeping? Man, I just wasn't sleeping.

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Speaker 6: I was losing a lot of weight. I was probably

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Speaker 6: just like getting all I don't know, it's weird because

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Speaker 6: I'm not really been doing anything any different since then.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes you just need people to tell you're okay.

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Speaker 4: Really, is that what they told you?

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Speaker 5: You're okay?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody's like they were, Yeah, they they were Like

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Speaker 6: they made me feel better than I did by just

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Speaker 6: telling me things that I don't know that I needed.

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Speaker 6: They were just telling me honest things, like I'd convinced

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Speaker 6: myself I was, you know, dying, Like I'm going to

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Speaker 6: die out here on the road. Like I'm out here,

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Speaker 6: you know, doing this all the time, and I'm missing

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Speaker 6: little things back home, and my family's like been affected

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Speaker 6: by it, and I don't want this to be the

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Speaker 6: way that life's supposed to be, Like this is what

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Speaker 6: I love? Like, why is it the thing I love?

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Speaker 6: It's like that song by Alan Jackson. You know everything

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Speaker 6: I love I'm want to have to give up because

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Speaker 6: everything I love is killing me.

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Speaker 7: That's how I felt like. I felt like I was

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Speaker 7: living an Alan Jackson song.

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Speaker 3: So, whenever you find out that something isn't really wrong

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Speaker 3: with you, does that change your perspective?

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Speaker 4: Did you live a different way?

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Speaker 5: Like was there?

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Speaker 4: Was it lighter?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think so. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I think Eric would tell you that. I just I think,

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Speaker 6: if anything, what I found out was is kind of

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Speaker 6: what Caitlin was saying earlier, like just kind of like

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Speaker 6: relax a little bit and everything's gonna be okay. Like

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Speaker 6: don't you can convince yourself such negative things when that's

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Speaker 6: all you stress on and harp on. But when you're like, hey,

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Speaker 6: which to personally, sometimes.

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Speaker 7: To all of us, can seem like a lifetime.

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Speaker 6: Whatever those next You could spend those next fifteen or

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Speaker 6: to be happy about.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're a happier person now than five.

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Speaker 7: Years ago than five years ago? I hope?

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Speaker 5: So three years ago?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I hope I'm happier today

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like you are purposefully happy?

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Speaker 6: I feel like I'm still figuring everything out, man, I don't.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I'm still like I'm forty one, but

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Speaker 6: I still feel like that twenty two three year old

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Speaker 7: I'm excited to do it. Like can I you still

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Speaker 3: I feel more positive I still am to me than

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean because well, thankfully thanks. I don't. I'm not.

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Speaker 6: I don't intentionally wake up every day and go like

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be way more positive today, which I probably should.

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Speaker 7: I try to preach that.

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Speaker 6: I think people listen to my music and the type

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Speaker 6: and he's just like he's a dude, like and I

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Speaker 6: the masterclass stuff like I try to. I looked at

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Speaker 6: Erica this morning and was like, hey, we like like

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Speaker 6: we have a lot of friends, right now going through

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Speaker 6: like a lot of crazy stuff. And and that's what

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Speaker 6: even Tyler Hubbard not to drop his name again, said

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Speaker 6: to me at lunch and he's like, how's everything with you?

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Speaker 7: Man? Everything good?

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, yeah, it's awesome, Like life is great, man.

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Speaker 6: And I say that because just this morning I told Eric,

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Speaker 6: And that's when you really have to like, when life

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Speaker 6: is good is when you really need to be thankful

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Speaker 6: for it. Then when life isn't and you're it's like

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Speaker 6: when you're sick and you're you were trying to remember

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Speaker 6: what it felt like to feel good. And so I

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Speaker 6: feel really good right now and I want to remember

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Speaker 6: what this feels like. And I want that to spread

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Speaker 6: throughout my family as well and hopefully telling other people too, man,

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Speaker 6: life is great.

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Speaker 7: It's awesome.

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Speaker 6: That also helps them because nobody wants to hear someone say, hey, man,

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Speaker 6: how's everything and then you sit there and listen to

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Speaker 7: You know, nobody wants to hear that.

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Speaker 3: More front lobe, front lobe all day, baby, let's go,

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Speaker 3: that's the that's the saying stay in that front lobe.

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Speaker 4: Man trademark that so the front because the front lobe does.

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Speaker 6: What front lobe, from what I've learned, is where you

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Speaker 6: know your majority of children really live and until they

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Speaker 6: progressively you know, through experiences and things like that, you

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Speaker 6: tend to live more with the way we're wired as

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Speaker 6: humans in a more backlob brain front lobe being more joyful, creative, spontaneous,

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Speaker 6: care free, all those which are great qualities. Rear being

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Speaker 7: So you can have the choice of where you kind

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Speaker 7: of want to live.

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Speaker 4: You do not have Jaco in dot com, but you

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Speaker 4: have Jaco and dot net.

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Speaker 7: Yes, what's the deal?

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Speaker 3: What will they not sell it to? Or are they

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Speaker 3: asking an insurmount of amount of money I'd rather?

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't never really thought of it

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Speaker 7: that way. I just knew it. When I couldn't get

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Speaker 7: the calm, I was like, I'm cool with net. You

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Speaker 7: know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm about that Net sounds front love to me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I was cool that. I never really overthought

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Speaker 6: it like that. So you asked me, I don't know

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Speaker 6: that I've rever you know now he goes Backlobe now

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Speaker 6: Glow Viral Sounds Club, do the manager?

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Speaker 7: Why do I not have jacoon dot Com?

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Speaker 4: Now I got a couple more questions for you.

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Speaker 3: There was a story about you in the Tennessee n

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Speaker 3: because there was a restaurant and Kaitlin and were having lunch.

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Speaker 3: We saw a big line coming out of a place

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Speaker 3: that was closing after I don't know how many years,

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Speaker 3: and they were closing because they wanted to close, they

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Speaker 3: wanted to retire, and they were doing these stories about

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Speaker 3: it leading up to it. And there was a story

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Speaker 3: and you weren't interview for the story. It wasn't you

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna have you tell it, but don't, oh Man,

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Speaker 3: just like literally tell it. I'm begging you to tell

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Speaker 3: the story as is. The story was about you helping

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Speaker 7: Yeah? And I told you this.

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Speaker 6: That's why I was so flattered by it. Really, And

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Speaker 6: there's a great George Steinbrenner quote that I saw on

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Speaker 6: that says, like, you do good things for other people,

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Speaker 6: but if someone else finds out about it, then you

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Speaker 6: to do good things for people because it's the thing

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Speaker 7: And so this.

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Speaker 6: Particular scenario, when I moved to town, which is a

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Speaker 6: great kind of segue off of what we all talked

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Speaker 6: about earlier, I would go to Arnold's on Eighth Avenue

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Speaker 6: my granddad. My nanny was a good cook still is.

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Speaker 6: And so I'd go in there and have like raire

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Speaker 6: I got to know the people that owned Arnold's, which

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Speaker 7: And I just loved it.

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Speaker 6: It's like meeting three meaning you go in there and

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Speaker 6: grab the food that you want to grab. And so

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Speaker 6: I would do that. And uh, Jordan Spieth is calling me.

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Speaker 6: Should I answer this?

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Speaker 9: Ye?

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Speaker 4: Answer it?

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Speaker 7: He did this to me on an interview one time.

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Speaker 4: Answer what's up?

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Speaker 7: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Telling with me?

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Speaker 6: I am a very random I am in the middle

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Speaker 6: of an interview right now, and I'm with Bobby Bones.

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Speaker 6: Actually I'm doing a radio like a set a podcast.

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Speaker 6: And I said, and my phone was ringing. I was

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Speaker 6: gonna send it to voicemail and then a lot like

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Speaker 6: the last time you were on an interview, I guess

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Speaker 6: always like Jake, Oh, it's calling your phone, So I said,

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Speaker 6: I had to answer. So are you just excited about

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Speaker 6: our playing possibilities coming up?

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Speaker 4: I'm just really excited that we're finally.

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Speaker 10: Going to win the.

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Speaker 4: I'm going playing together.

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Speaker 7: We are, Yeah, we are. Yeah, I'm going off. I

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Speaker 7: will I will, I will buzz I'll buzz you back.

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Speaker 7: All right, sounds good to see it. See you buddy,

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Speaker 7: he's right here. See man.

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Speaker 4: Never heard of him anyway.

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Speaker 6: That's so cool man, like you have like you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean, Like that's cool, Like I know that

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Speaker 6: he's even my partner, but like sometimes I'm like, are

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Speaker 7: We're buddies. You know, that's cool to get a call awesome.

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Speaker 3: I mean I played with him because you were like, hey,

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Speaker 11: I was like, yeah, that's.

442
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,240
Speaker 5: What I was calling you.

443
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,119
Speaker 9: No, I mean, and I hadn't talked to him, you know,

444
00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,720
Speaker 9: and this was a this it was kind of a conversation.

445
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 5: I had kind.

446
00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,880
Speaker 9: Of knew his kind I knew he you know, kind

447
00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,600
Speaker 9: of how he felt. Of like I knew his burnout,

448
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,280
Speaker 9: I didn't know the extent of what was going on.

449
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,439
Speaker 9: But he texted me and was like, hey, man, you

450
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 9: want to come over tonight and I was like, okay,

451
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 9: he wants to talk about something.

452
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:41,920
Speaker 4: I thought.

453
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,359
Speaker 9: It was like this is going to be kind of

454
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,360
Speaker 9: it honestly in.

455
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,960
Speaker 5: My in my heart of heart.

456
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 9: So I was like, I think that this might be

457
00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 9: the end of our band. And I was like, yeah, man,

458
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 9: when you know, when do you want to do this?

459
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:52,439
Speaker 5: You know?

460
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 9: And he was like I can come over there right now.

461
00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 9: And I was like, oh, okay, he wants to talk

462
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,120
Speaker 9: like right now. And then I was like, I mean

463
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 9: talk about full blown panic, you know, because all this

464
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,399
Speaker 9: stuff started coming up and I was like, oh no,

465
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,119
Speaker 9: Like I was not prepared. This was like a normal

466
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,040
Speaker 9: Sunday night or something, and I'm like, I'm gonna I

467
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,160
Speaker 9: told my wife. I was like, I'm going to meet

468
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,879
Speaker 9: with Dan and I and we didn't really talk about it,

469
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,399
Speaker 9: and we both kind of looked at each other like

470
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 9: I think I'm going to go in my band with

471
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,919
Speaker 9: my best friend that I haven't been close with in

472
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,679
Speaker 9: several years. It was just kind of this whole understood

473
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 9: like this, we'll deal with this when, We'll deal with

474
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 9: the wreckage when I get back, you know. And I

475
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,400
Speaker 9: just remember driving over there, just like sweaty palms, be like, dude,

476
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 9: this is this is heavy, you know. And I was

477
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 9: like I was giving me emotional right, this is to

478
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 9: teach you how to this is just.

479
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 5: Paying you forgive me an example.

480
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 9: But I was like, man, this is like the last

481
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 9: ten years of my life is about to end, you know,

482
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 9: and this is about we're about to you know whatever.

483
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,920
Speaker 9: And I get there and it was just like this,

484
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,439
Speaker 9: you know, what's up, dude, you know. And I remember

485
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 9: we sat there and Dan just like starts to apologize

486
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 9: for like the last ten years. That prompted me to

487
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 9: apologize for stuff, and you know, that's the long and

488
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 9: short of it. We sat there until I think I

489
00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 9: got over there, like maybe I don't know, seven thirty

490
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 9: after I put the kids to bed, I went over there.

491
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 5: We stayed up and talked till.

492
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 9: Like three in the morning and just hashed through all

493
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 9: of these things, and a lot of that was like

494
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 9: all right, we need to really appreciate like what we've

495
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 9: gotten to do, whether we continue to do this band.

496
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 9: It wasn't like we were dancing around the fact that

497
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 9: we both were kind of feeling like we don't know

498
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 9: if we're going to do this anymore. But it was like, man,

499
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 9: let's let's ride off into the sunset. Either way, let's

500
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 9: Dan and Shay. Is always going to be was something

501
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 9: that Dan said. He was like, We're always going to

502
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 9: be a tattoo on somebody's arm, always gonna be a

503
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 9: first dance song.

504
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 5: And I was like, that's great.

505
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 9: I remember, like because this was kind of after we'd

506
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 9: had our like really heavy talk, you know, and we

507
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 9: had kind of gotten the tears out and all that

508
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 9: kind of stuff, and I remember like watching him like

509
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 9: grab his phone and type in that title, you know,

510
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 9: and I was like, that's a great title. And it

511
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 9: was just it was just an incredible night.

512
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: Man.

513
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 9: It's like, you know, I feel like a lot of

514
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 9: people were are scared to say, you know, like, oh, yeah,

515
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 9: we got together and.

516
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 5: We cried, like just a couple of friends.

517
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 9: That's that's pretty lame, Like no one would want to

518
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 9: say that out loud, but like it was, man, a

519
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 9: lot of tears were shed and a lot of stuff

520
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 9: was really figured out, and it wasn't like we figured

521
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 9: out all of our problems, but acknowledging that it mattered

522
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 9: enough to both of us that we would try. And

523
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 9: it was just after that, it was our plan of

524
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 9: action was to all right, let's hang out three times

525
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 9: a week, let's get together, and let's have no agenda.

526
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: It's just the relationship more than what the relationship could do.

527
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: Exactly was let's make sure we do the relationship.

528
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 9: Let's be let's be friends again. Because I feel like

529
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 9: that's something that people don't see from the outside to

530
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 9: be very easy to be, like, yeah, we're in a band,

531
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 9: and I feel like every duo in history, especially in

532
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 9: country music. I mean, we've had so much devastation. You know,

533
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 9: that is wreckage that has been left through different duos,

534
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 9: friends of ours that have that have very publicly happened,

535
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 9: And what you don't see is like the behind the

536
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 9: scenes stuff that is just like their friendship is. If

537
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 9: that gets wrecked, it's just.

538
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 5: A matter of time.

539
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 9: It's a ticking time bomb of you know, of your

540
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 9: band separating because you're just going in different directions. And

541
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 9: even though Dan and I are such different people at

542
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 9: the core, like on every level, that's the reason that

543
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 9: it works is because we have extreme respect.

544
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: For one another.

545
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 9: And even when your lives are kind of going like this,

546
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 9: it's so important to kind of realign yourselves. And even though,

547
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 9: like you know, I've got three kids at this point,

548
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 9: Dan's got dogs, we've got our families, like we have

549
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 9: our own responsibilities, but acknowledging like, hey man, I respect

550
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 9: the hell out of you for what you're doing, and

551
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 9: no matter if I believe the same thing that you

552
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 9: believe or not, I respect what you believe. And we

553
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 9: both have this band in common, and we have our

554
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,239
Speaker 9: fans in common, and I think the world needs to

555
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 9: needs to view that too. You know. It's like we

556
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 9: have so much you know, separation in our country and

557
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 9: all these things, and it's like no matter. I feel

558
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 9: like when I was growing up, that was kind of

559
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 9: the message, like, all right, you believe this and I

560
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 9: believe this. We're gonna scream at each other and then

561
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 9: we're gonna go grab a beer, you know, And I

562
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 9: feel like that's kind of been lost on the world,

563
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 9: a little bit of the the value of a good fight,

564
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 9: you know. That's the next video that's coming out. It's

565
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 9: the follow up to The Drive it's called the fight.

566
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 9: It's gonna be really good. But I feel like it was.

567
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 9: You know, we had to learn to respect each other

568
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 9: enough to have those hard conversations when we knew that

569
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 9: if things are if I have a problem now, like

570
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 9: it's even happened in like the last you know, six

571
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 9: months or so, where we're like, okay, this is I

572
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 9: think this is how it should be.

573
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 5: Now I think this is how it should be.

574
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 9: We talk it out and it's like, awesome, this way

575
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 9: is clearly better because we both care, we want the

576
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 9: same thing, and we learned how to like focus that

577
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 9: stuff and really put a focus on communication, just like

578
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 9: in any marriage would be. If you just don't talk

579
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 9: about something, That's how us guys. Most times, I think

580
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 9: like I fixed it.

581
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 3: It's a issued toyeah, I don't say anything about it. Yeah,

582
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: I let it live, and then I just keep pushing

583
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 3: it down. But my wife knows she has to go

584
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: and get it because I will not. Yeah, and it

585
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 3: doesn't put it her in a great place.

586
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 4: And I don't like that.

587
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: I'm like that a lot of times, but I'm and

588
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: also I feel like I can fix it in my

589
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: head myself, sure, totally and just like I'm gonna go

590
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: fix it. I'm not even gonna tell the process, but

591
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come back and it's gonna be fixed. Yeah, yep,

592
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: and that gets me in trouble. But you're right, it's

593
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: a relationship. And you guys marriage also, your marriages to

594
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: your wives, like one on one's tough.

595
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 5: Regardless of the situation.

596
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 12: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Wow, and we're

597
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 12: back on the Bobby Cast.

598
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 4: I always enjoy talking to this guy.

599
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 3: Great artist, great songwriter, cool husband, cole dad At number

600
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: three it's Thomas Rhett from episode four to eleven. Now

601
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: it was basically an hour long therapy session, not just

602
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 3: for him but for both of us. We talked about

603
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: how he's approaching music, and it shocked me that he

604
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: hadn't been on social media in months, something I couldn't do.

605
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been on social media since I started

606
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 3: doing this.

607
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 4: Here's Thomas.

608
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,959
Speaker 3: I mean reading this paragraph of aready been on social media?

609
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 3: Here's Thomas Rhett at number three. Has your thoughts and

610
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: philosophy on how much music and how often to release

611
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: music changed over the last three years?

612
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, but I feel like I'm not following the

613
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: trend in the way that I should.

614
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: What's the trend and how do you follow it differently

615
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: than the trend?

616
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 8: Man.

617
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: I've put a record out every other year since I

618
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: was twenty one years old, you know, and I think,

619
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: like the last couple of records, as proud of them

620
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: as I am, I feel like there have been moments

621
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: where it's been like, we just need to keep writing

622
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: because we've got to keep keeping up. And then you

623
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: put a record out and there might have been like

624
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: a song that did a thing, but the rest of

625
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: the record like wasn't really ready, you know what I'm saying.

626
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: And so I've been working on a new record for

627
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: the last six months and I don't have a date yet,

628
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think for a

629
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: lot of people on the team, it's kind of nerve

630
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: wracking because I've always just had something in the can

631
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: to be able to come with if we to. But dude,

632
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm just like, for the first time in my life,

633
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm just watching so much music come out all the time,

634
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: and it's so like I can barely get to through

635
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: the whole new music Friday country, much.

636
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 5: Less night music Friday.

637
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, maybe get Friday Country, you know what I mean. Like,

638
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: I get maybe through the first ten of them, and

639
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: then I'm like, man, I don't even I don't even

640
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: know what's good, you know what I mean, until the

641
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: world kind of tells me what is good. I'm not

642
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: even sure that I know what good is anymore. And

643
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: so I've had to take a big step back from

644
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: even the music I've been writing, like I haven't listened

645
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: to and this is rare for me, but like when

646
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: I'm about to start making records, Man, I'm listening to

647
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: my demos daily, like in the car, in the gym

648
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: on the lake with my kids, and I haven't listened

649
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 1: to a song of mine in two months because I

650
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: have to just get so far away from it that

651
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: when I come back to it for the first real time,

652
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: I want to be blown away by it rather than like, gosh,

653
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: I think this is the next record, but I'm sort

654
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: of like already sick of it and it's coming out

655
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: in three months, you know what I'm saying.

656
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: I would assume that that's already the case with most people,

657
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: but yet, like how you're talking about in the way

658
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 3: that you've done it, I could see where that would

659
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 3: be amplified if you're not putting it out like you'd

660
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 3: probably like to do. Like you said, every week, it's

661
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: something else. It's something else that you could quickly be

662
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: tired of that season that you're in right then and

663
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: beyondo something else. But you've already started this project and

664
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 3: you're still, well, you created all this in that season.

665
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 5: You can't just let it go.

666
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it would have been easy just to put

667
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: it out then, for sure, So I can see where

668
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: that does a creative dilemma.

669
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: But I think I'm still I'm still a little bit

670
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: of the old school mindset of like, if you have

671
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: a good body of work, at least give it a

672
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: real chance and give it a real plan, you know

673
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I feel like I'm not one

674
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: of those artists that can just like chunk songs out

675
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: and hope that they become famous on TikTok. Like I

676
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: just don't know that I'm one of those artists that

677
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: can happen to. Maybe I could have like a viral song,

678
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: but like that's not how I want to release music,

679
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: is it?

680
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: Because you don't know if you're because I don't agree

681
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: with what you're saying.

682
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 5: About you. I think you don't think you should do it.

683
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 3: But I think you're as good as anybody else putting music

684
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: on TikTok. But are you Because the nature of that

685
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: is you're gonna put a bunch of it that doesn't

686
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: work for sure. And so is that part of it too,

687
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: where you don't want to put a bunch of stuff

688
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: that you know, just a numbers game. If you put

689
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: out five things, three and a half or four of

690
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: them is not gonna work for sure.

691
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: It's weird.

692
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 8: Man.

693
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't have an answer.

694
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 12: Hank Ty, the Bobby Cast will be right back and

695
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 12: we're back on the Bobby Cast.

696
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 3: TikTok's cool to me again for music, because it's really

697
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: what I use it for now. I've used TikTok for

698
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: a lot of different things through again. I'll use the

699
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: word seasons where it's like funny stuff and then it's

700
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: like a lot of golf videos. And but now I

701
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: watch and find a lot of great music that I

702
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: listen to personally. For example, so there's one girl woman,

703
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: her name is Jackie Vincent. She's from Austin, and then

704
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: she's a blues player and she's so good and it's rare.

705
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm so jaded. You're jaded too, in the way I

706
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: would just get to be around great people. It's a

707
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: beautiful jadedness. We see so much greatness all the time.

708
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: You really got to be different to stand down.

709
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: Stand out.

710
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: And I like saw it and I was like, oh

711
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: my god, like, rarely do I hear or see anything

712
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: where you're just like it just feels different for sure,

713
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: And so I started following her. And the cool thing

714
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: about Algorithm, Well, the bad thing is they know everything

715
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: you're doing, and they monitor you and big brothers watching

716
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: in China's gods all that stuff that doesn't matter. But the

717
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: good thing is they like, know what kind of music

718
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: you like? Yeah, last night, I'm on And there used

719
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: to be a group called Carmen and it was two people,

720
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: Mike Dear and mccarrmen.

721
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: It was the guy and the girl.

722
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 3: Okay, so he was They were a singer and rapper

723
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: and it was like the two thousands. And I saw

724
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: this girl and her name was like Queen something and

725
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: she's speed wrapping like bust rhymes, and I'm like, I

726
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: think that's the woman from Karmen. So I went into

727
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: it and it was her, but without TikTok and me

728
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: just flipping through and find For sure, I just don't

729
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: know if I wouldn't be completely bored with music again

730
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: at this point.

731
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because being.

732
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 5: So jaded by it.

733
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

734
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: If you were to get on your TikTok, what what

735
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: do you see on yours? Because of what you're looking at?

736
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: Can I be very honest with you?

737
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather not lie unless it's a really good lie.

738
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: I haven't been on social media since January.

739
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: Oh that's great.

740
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: That's even weirder and better than what you would have said. Yeah,

741
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: why because I'd rather go down that road.

742
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was getting to a point where, I mean,

743
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: it sounds super cliche to say it, but it was

744
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: just taking up so much of my time, you know

745
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: what I mean? And I was finding so much of

746
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: my worth in a post. And like, especially since all

747
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: the algorithm stuff changed, you started to get you started

748
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: to be like man, Like I used to post videos

749
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: and they'd get like a million views, no doubt, And

750
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: then you start to see this thing of like, Okay,

751
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: my views are starting to go down. Does that mean

752
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: that I am starting to suck more? You know what

753
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying like, that's what that's what my brain would

754
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: tell me, that's what I think. That's I think it's

755
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: probably everybody creative.

756
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 5: I think that is absolutely fair.

757
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: And so you know, then you would like put songs

758
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: out and then some people would think they were really cool,

759
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: and then some people would just hate on them. And

760
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: then you start to see all the people in our

761
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: genre that the bloggers just be like, this is terror,

762
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: this is trash, Thomas Repp music, this is not what

763
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: he's best at, all, these kind of things, and so

764
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: then you start making music out of fear. You start

765
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: my produce. One of my producers named Julian said, you

766
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: can't work out of hit desperation, you have to work

767
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: out of hit inspiration. And I think for a while there, dude,

768
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: I was working out of hit desperation because I was

769
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: so terrified of what this genre would think about what

770
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I thought was cool that it got to a point

771
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: where I just wanted to write what I think they

772
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: think would be cool.

773
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 5: It's a lot of predicting going on.

774
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: A lot of predicting of being like, well, maybe if

775
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: I write songs that sort of feel like a loop

776
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: comes thing, then these people will kind of think I'm like,

777
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: okay again, you know what I'm saying, And maybe if

778
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: I can do some of this stuff that like Morgan

779
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: is doing, then maybe this group will think that I

780
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: maybe I can fit into that group. But I didn't

781
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: like get here by ever fitting into a group.

782
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: You actually did the opposite.

783
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: I did the complete opposite, and so I started to

784
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: really not be myself anymore, just kind of lamed right

785
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: with honestly just vanilla straight down the middle stuff.

786
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: Okay, what was the bottom for you that made you go,

787
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: I got to get off. I have to because something

788
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: had to happen for you to go. I got to

789
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: make a change in my life.

790
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it was.

791
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 8: It was.

792
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: It was around Christmas time last year. And like, I

793
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: kind of go into weird places when I'm off the

794
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: road because it feels like a therapy. Are all your

795
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: podcasts like therapy sessions?

796
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 5: Like hey buddy, I am who am?

797
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I go to a lot of therapy myself, maybe saying,

798
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: but when I'm off the road is is a really

799
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: challenging time for me because when you're on the road,

800
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: you're getting three straight nights of like dopamine celebrations. Yes,

801
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: love how are you yes, yes, And then you come

802
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: home and I love my children and I love my wife.

803
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: It is the complete opposite. It's like retractable dopamine, if

804
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: that makes any sense.

805
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I will leave a stage being told I'm

806
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: the funniest person in the whole world by a couple

807
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: thousand people, are ah, and then my wife's like, you

808
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: did not take out the trash, and she loved me

809
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: more than they ever will for sure. But you're right,

810
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: the dope it is not and you you just feel

811
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: it's a different kind of loneliness.

812
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 8: No doubt.

813
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, I was off the road. I've

814
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: been off the road for like two or three months

815
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: and just constantly in my freaking phone, you know what

816
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean. Like my kids are like literally asking me

817
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: questions upon question and I'm literally just I can't. I'm

818
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: not even hearing them because I'm just here. And so yeah,

819
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: it was like January first, it was like one of

820
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: my like New Year's you know, resolution type things that

821
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: I thought would last for like two weeks because I've

822
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: never really fully quit social media. And then yeah, January, man,

823
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't even seen an app since January.

824
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: So I hired a team. I mean everything that we

825
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: post is from me. It's just that I am not

826
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: physically on scrolling looking at the comments doing the stuff.

827
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: Well, I got a message from you to day. I

828
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: sent you a much Apple gift cards because you said

829
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 3: I needed to send you that. Oh my gosh, you

830
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: were like any Apple gift cards and bitcoin.

831
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 5: So I sent you good Yeah, yeah, so you should

832
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 5: have that. Yeah that wasn't you. That was the son

833
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 5: of a gun. I got scammed again.

834
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: Good self awareness.

835
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 5: I think we all know. I have a friend. You

836
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 5: know him too.

837
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: He's one of my best friends. I won't say his

838
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: name here, but he locks his apps up.

839
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 5: He has a.

840
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: It's not Dirk's, but Dirk's also does this. But he

841
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: goes to a flip phone at different times during the

842
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: month when he's starting to feel a little anxious, and

843
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: then when he's not and he's on his smartphone, there

844
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 3: is an app.

845
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't care, Hey, get on it. It's Twitter. Twitter.

846
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Twitter notification.

847
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: Don't forget to me.

848
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: He has an app that locks all of his social

849
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: media up at like five pm, and you can't get off.

850
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: You can't get on it. Nless you have the code.

851
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: The only person has this code as manager gotcha, and

852
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: so he is. I would like delete it off my

853
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: phone every day and then just re download it.

854
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: I would do that and then just then get on

855
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: the internet on my computer and then do like the

856
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: browser version.

857
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 5: I'd be like, well, I'm kind of you.

858
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 3: You know, I have a weird relationship with social media,

859
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: but I think that self awareness is like, that's extremely

860
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: valuable that you found that.

861
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 5: Do you think you'll ever go back?

862
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: Probably at some point in time. And I've quit a

863
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: couple of things this year that I mean, I quit

864
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: nicotine this year, which I have. I love nicotine so much.

865
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 5: Never had it. What's good about it? Get me started?

866
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 5: Like sell me on it?

867
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I started dipping when I

868
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: was like, you know, eighteen years old, Grisley Winter Green.

869
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: And then when I turned like twenty eight, I started

870
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: using this stuff called zen is that in the pack?

871
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like it's like just nicotine and mint,

872
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: and like it kind of just became I'm trying to

873
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: quit things that are crutches for me, you know what

874
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like social media was a crutch. It was

875
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: the place where I went where I needed validation, but

876
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: then it was the place that I hated when it

877
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: didn't validate me, you know what I'm saying, polar and

878
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: so nicotine was kind of like that crutch for me.

879
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: It was just like when I felt nervous nicotine, when

880
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: I felt weird nicotine, when I felt happy nicotine. It

881
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: was like always just a thing. And so, I mean,

882
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: I haven't been off of it that long, but it's

883
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: been been three weeks, which is the longest ever gone.

884
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: So I think I'm gonna start after that in the

885
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: year of quitting nervous.

886
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: That's a long time.

887
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: Hang tight.

888
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 12: The Bobby Cast will be right back. Welcome back to

889
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 12: the Bobby Cast.

890
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: At number two, it's one of country music's most powerful

891
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: female voices, Martina McBride.

892
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: I had to spend a lot of time with Martinez,

893
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: so it's super cool she came by.

894
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: She stopped by to talk about her career, which is

895
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: over thirty years long, being inducted into the Grand Ole

896
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: Opry back in the nineties, and you know the genius

897
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: way she landed a record deal. Big fan, Who's not.

898
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: From episode three eighty eight. Here's Martina McBride at number two.

899
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety three, you get inducted into the Grand O Opry.

900
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: You mentioned Loretta al in earlier. She's the one who

901
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: does it. What do you remember about that night?

902
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 10: It was part of a television special. It's like an

903
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 10: anniversary of the Opry, and Loretta's so funny.

904
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 13: She came, she came to do.

905
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 10: The rehearsal and they gave you. They gave me a

906
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 10: plaque and she said, well, during rehearsal, she said, is this.

907
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 13: What I'm supposed to give you? This is what you

908
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 13: get for joining the Opry?

909
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 10: And I said, yeah, I guess so, and so she

910
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 10: said she kind of laughed, and during the ceremony she said,

911
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 10: welcome to the Opry, honey, this is what you get.

912
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: That's super cool that it was her and she's the one,

913
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: like just first of all, anything with her, Yeah, but

914
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: she's the one inducting you into the greatest country music

915
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: space right.

916
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: In the history of the world, the Grand Ole Opry.

917
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: Like what a special memory.

918
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: Did you know that she was going to be inducting

919
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: you before like rehearsals with it, because sometimes you know,

920
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 3: they the invite is a surprise.

921
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: Was that a surprise to you?

922
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

923
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 13: But they didn't do it like they did.

924
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: They didn't just show up in surprise you at the performance.

925
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 10: I went to lunch with the head of the opry

926
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 10: and he asked me at lunch and then and then

927
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 10: I got to I got to invite, I got to

928
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 10: ask who I wanted to induct.

929
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: Me, so I show so you chose the right now, okay,

930
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: man being told at lunch by someone who an executives

931
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: like being proposed on the phone.

932
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, you're still getting married and that's awesome,

933
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: but you didn't even get on a knee.

934
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 8: Yeah.

935
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 13: I don't think they did it like that back then.

936
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 10: Now I love how they do it now where they

937
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 10: I got to be that person for Charlie Daniels.

938
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 13: I got to ask him to join.

939
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 4: The opry and he didn't know you were there. You

940
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 4: guess kept it completely secret.

941
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 13: Mm hmm.

942
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: That's that's the greatest. Those videos where people are surprised.

943
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: Just through that, I would say the history, because you're right,

944
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 3: they didn't do it like that twenty five years ago.

945
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: I think like twenty years Yeah, they started doing it.

946
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 7: A little bit.

947
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: But those videos where people get surprised and oh my god,

948
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: they're awesome. Only second to whenever somebody from the military

949
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: comes home in sur prizes are kids.

950
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 4: I love those video and those are good too.

951
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: What I don't like when they show the videos of

952
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: the dogs with one eye and said on McLoughlin sings

953
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: those videos, that don't like it.

954
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 4: I like what they're doing. I just don't like those videos. Yeah,

955
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: Like you know what comes to me.

956
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: You sign a record deal ninety one, how fast until

957
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: you actually take off and have a hit from the

958
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: moment you signed, until you're on the radio and you

959
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: got a number one song.

960
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was a second record. I didn't have a

961
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 10: number one song to the third record. Wild Angels was

962
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 10: my first number one. Actually just happened the other day.

963
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 10: I think it was in nineteen ninety six. So it

964
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 10: took six five or six years to really get to

965
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 10: that place. But I but before Wild Angels, I had

966
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 10: Independence Day and I had my.

967
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: First three Independence Day. Wasn't a number one song, No,

968
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: it was number ten. Maybe again, I'm just the consumer here.

969
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: The song that I would know you for the most Yeah,

970
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: it wasn't even a number one song, right, that's.

971
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 13: A whole story.

972
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 10: Like you know, we had a lot of resistance at

973
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 10: radio with that song because the subject matter, and I

974
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 10: think it was really because she burned the house down,

975
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 10: you know, it was like she was taking she took

976
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 10: action that just didn't set very.

977
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 13: Well with a lot of radio people.

978
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 7: Bizarre.

979
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 10: And so it's funny because I was so passionate about

980
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 10: that song, like it literally changed my life, not career

981
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 10: only career wise, but just my awareness and my you know,

982
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 10: wanting to try to help some way, and all the

983
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 10: letters that I got and the people that I talked.

984
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 13: To and heard their stories and it was so big

985
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 13: for me.

986
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 10: And so my probone guy once again, Mike Wilson, came

987
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 10: to me and he said, I think we're losing the song.

988
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 13: I don't think that it's gonna make it. And I

989
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 13: was like, what, how is this possible?

990
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 10: And he goes, well, there's there's a you know, maybe

991
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 10: twenty stations that won't won't refuse to play it. And

992
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 10: I said, can I talk to them? Can you give

993
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 10: me their numbers? And I want to have a conversation and.

994
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 13: He was like, uh, sure, I guess, like that's not

995
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 13: usually done, but I guess so.

996
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 10: And so I got on the phone with these guys

997
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 10: and I was just like, talk to me, like, tell

998
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 10: me what is it and some of them would say,

999
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 10: we just don't think it's appropriate that it's on our station,

1000
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 10: and I said, and oddly enough, this is right. Independence

1001
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 10: date came out maybe seven weeks before Nicole brown Sinson

1002
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 10: was murdered, so all of a sudden it was on.

1003
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 10: That story was everywhere, and so I said, you know,

1004
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 10: it's interesting because you're talking about domestic violence every day,

1005
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 10: several times a day on your newscast, right yet you

1006
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 10: don't feel like this song can can be listened to

1007
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 10: or whatever. And I turned a couple few of them around.

1008
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 10: There were ten stations that never did play it, but

1009
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 10: I was able to they would give it a chance.

1010
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 8: You know.

1011
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 10: One guy said to me that video like, if I'm

1012
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 10: sitting with my daughter and that video comes on, then

1013
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 10: I have to talk to her and explain things. And

1014
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 10: I'm like, yeah, dude, that's maybe not a bad idea.

1015
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 13: So it was interesting. It's just a different time, you know.

1016
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: Is it odd when people just think that song is

1017
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: about fourth of July. Yeah, like on fourth of July

1018
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: you hear the song and it's not the same thing.

1019
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: I got talking about literal Independence Day of America. Yeah,

1020
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: because sometimes it'll be like it's your July for the playlist,

1021
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: oh all the every year, Yeah yeah, and Independence say

1022
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: comes on.

1023
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 10: I think I think that's what you were talking about earlier,

1024
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 10: how sometimes you can just sing a song for years

1025
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 10: and not really ever. You kind of just sing the

1026
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 10: chorus and you're distracted during the verses or whatever, because

1027
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 10: I think a lot of people don't know what that

1028
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 10: song is about still, but then so many people do,

1029
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 10: and that's you know, that's the song that I've heard

1030
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 10: and thought to myself, somebody needs to hear this song.

1031
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 13: This is going to be the song for somebody.

1032
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1033
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 10: And you know then I get letters people saying that's

1034
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 10: what I got in the car and I heard that

1035
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 10: song on the radio, and that's I decided I'm out

1036
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 10: of here.

1037
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 13: I've had enough, right, So it's like, that's the power.

1038
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 13: That's not me. That's the power of music and the

1039
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 13: power of a song.

1040
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 12: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, Wow,

1041
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 12: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1042
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 3: Three questions for you when you finally win for Female

1043
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: Vocalist Because you grew up a couple of times in

1044
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 3: like the late nineties, but in like maybe two thousand

1045
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 3: and three or so, I think you won the first

1046
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: time three in a row. By the way, it was

1047
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: like bam bam bam.

1048
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 13: Yeah it was nineteen ninety nine.

1049
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: Is that you won a ninety nine?

1050
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: Okay, so the first time you win and you'd always

1051
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: been able to envision yourself winning, did you have that

1052
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: moment while it was happening where you're like, I've always

1053
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 3: like it while it was happening, Like I always could

1054
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: see this and now it's actually happening.

1055
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, kind of yeah, it was like not an out

1056
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 10: of body experience, but like it's so okay, I want

1057
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 10: to say this and not have it come off as

1058
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 10: in a conceited way because I'm not, but and it's

1059
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 10: not where it's coming from.

1060
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 13: But like, like it goes back to what I was

1061
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 13: saying before. You kind of have to believe it.

1062
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 10: You kind of have to believe it otherwise all of

1063
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 10: the rejection and the and the being away from home,

1064
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 10: the traveling and the recording and all the stuff that

1065
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 10: you do is you know, you have to believe it.

1066
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 13: It's going to pay off in.

1067
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 10: That moment as as in that moment, so you know,

1068
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 10: there was a I don't know, maybe it might have

1069
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 10: been even four or five years we were nominated and

1070
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 10: didn't win, and and you just go, what's going to happen.

1071
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 13: It's going to happen.

1072
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: So you still believed it was going to happen. Oh yeah, yeah,

1073
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: when you got that close.

1074
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 10: And didn't, Yeah, because it was too maybe premature, Like

1075
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 10: I feel like we One thing I'm really that was

1076
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 10: a good feeling for me was when we finally won.

1077
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 10: I felt like we'd been around long enough to kind

1078
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 10: of deserve it in a way. And my team, you know,

1079
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 10: everybody that worked so hard, they it was rewarding. It

1080
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 10: was just kind of like, I'm so glad it didn't

1081
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 10: happen too fast. I'm so glad I feel like I'm

1082
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 10: kind of in this industry and that people really wanted

1083
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 10: me to win.

1084
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 13: Maybe so, but yeah, there's that moment where you go, well,

1085
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 13: this is it.

1086
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: You know, the first times that you didn't win, are

1087
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: you like listening for and it is a deflat or

1088
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: is it? Do you really feel anytime I ever lose,

1089
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm not honored to be there? Right, I'm like this sucked?

1090
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1091
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: Or are you honored just to be there and You're like,

1092
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 4: I'll get him next time, Like what Like, yeah.

1093
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 13: I was kind of like that.

1094
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 10: I was really because I would look at the category

1095
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 10: and the other females in the category, and I was

1096
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 10: just like wow, Wow, like it's so amazing that I'm

1097
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 10: even in the same.

1098
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 13: Like these people even know.

1099
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 10: I remember when I walked past Alan Jackson one time

1100
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 10: at an award show, probably the first TMA Awards I

1101
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 10: went to, and he's in the front row and I

1102
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 10: walked by him and kind of, you know, I was

1103
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 10: I'm not I'm kind of an introvert, really honestly extroverted, introvert.

1104
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 10: Same so I'm not the kind of I'm always the

1105
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 10: kind of person that doesn't want to go up to

1106
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 10: somebody and introduce myself. I don't want to bother them,

1107
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. But I walked past him

1108
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 10: and I just kind of looked at him and thought

1109
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 10: to myself, Oh my god, that's Alan Jackson. And he

1110
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 10: said I love your stuff, and I was like, oh

1111
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 10: my god, Alan Jackson knows who I am and has

1112
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 10: heard my music.

1113
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 13: What in the world, you know, So it's.

1114
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 4: It was like that I don't think he came off

1115
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: you can see it at all.

1116
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: And I'm a big believer in what I would call

1117
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: a healthy arrogance, because if I don't have it, if

1118
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: I'm believe in me so much, nobody else is going

1119
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: to yeah, like I have to because at times other

1120
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: people are gonna go yeah or nope, or I don't know,

1121
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: prove it. But if I don't believe in me and

1122
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't believe what I'm putting out is worth people

1123
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: buying a ticket if I'm doing a comedy show or

1124
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: spending twenty minutes with me in the morning or reading

1125
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: a book. If I don't believe it and I don't

1126
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 3: believe it's great, nobody else will Yeah.

1127
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 13: That's true.

1128
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 4: So I have to be that, and I have no problem.

1129
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: It's just for me.

1130
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 3: At times, I think I get so insecure that that

1131
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: healthy arrogance tends to come off the other way because

1132
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm so insecure that it's like, well, I got approved

1133
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: to everybody that I don't take any crap, and let's

1134
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: let's go.

1135
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: That's my problem.

1136
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: When things started to really pop for me, I had

1137
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: to There were a couple of times where I had

1138
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 3: to be like, whoa, we got to check yourself.

1139
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: Luckily, I have that awareness.

1140
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 13: I was going to say, you're aware of it.

1141
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: Luckily, yeah did. When did you ever have to have

1142
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: that talk with you?

1143
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: It's a weird question to ask where you're like, it's

1144
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 3: hidden now, like, let's make sure we make these some

1145
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: wise decisions, not because.

1146
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 10: Of an arrogance thing or insecurity really, but you know,

1147
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 10: I just it took me a really long time to

1148
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 10: realize that I had some power.

1149
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 13: Like, you know, nobody tells you that when you start out.

1150
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 13: They're like, there's all.

1151
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 10: Kinds of people that want you to do what they

1152
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 10: think you should do. And I mean everybody from video

1153
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 10: directors to art directors to producers to everybody executives. And

1154
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 10: it took I think it was my husband actually that said,

1155
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 10: you know you, they're kind of working for you in

1156
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 10: a way, and I was like, oh my god.

1157
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 13: Yeah, so then you kind of you can kind of

1158
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 13: assert your power over your creativity and your own persona

1159
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 13: and how you're to see you over yourself, and that

1160
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 13: that can get pretty heady.

1161
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 10: So sometimes I feel like, especially I don't you know,

1162
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 10: as a woman, I kind of had to check that

1163
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 10: a little bit just to not alienate everyone.

1164
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 12: Hank Ty the Bobby cast will be right back. Wow,

1165
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 12: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1166
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 4: And we've made it all the way to number one.

1167
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: As far as the number one Bobby Cast of twenty

1168
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: twenty three, this one isn't number one because one, it

1169
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: did really well, but it also just surprised me because

1170
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: I can tell you I didn't I had no relationship

1171
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: at all with Chase Rice.

1172
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 4: You know, he could beat me up.

1173
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: I thought he might all those factors, and so I

1174
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, let's see where this goes. But it's

1175
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: from episode three eighty seven. Again, Super downloaded a lot

1176
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: of feedback because we really got into some hard topics

1177
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: that I think a lot of people can relate to.

1178
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 3: And I was very surprised with this generosity on talking

1179
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: about some of this stuff. He talked about losing his dad,

1180
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: dealing with grief and depression at the height of his career,

1181
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: and why he's purposely choosing to be lonely right now.

1182
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: This is a side of Chase Rice I'd never seen before.

1183
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: I really liked it. You guys really liked it. So

1184
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: here he is Chase Rice at number one. A credit

1185
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 3: to your dad, and I'm sure you feel this way

1186
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 3: and you love him, but it is You're right, It

1187
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: is so rare for someone to be consistent.

1188
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 4: And when you talk about it, I mean like he

1189
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: was there. Yeah, I mean that alone is pure love.

1190
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh yeah.

1191
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: It just feels like in relationships, no matter what it

1192
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 3: is with parent, brothers, sister, best friend, work like everybody's

1193
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 3: gonna do things and mess up and do great. It's

1194
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: just that the value of two humans working together. And

1195
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: but man, consistency, that's as much love as you could

1196
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: possibly get.

1197
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: Like I'm that's always just sound like the greatest dude.

1198
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was there, That's that's the number one. But

1199
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 8: it wasn't like he was just there and absent. He

1200
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 8: was there and he gave you all the attention and

1201
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 8: then like through high school and stuff, it didn't miss

1202
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 8: anto of the games.

1203
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: Do you still miss him?

1204
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah all the time when because my mom died

1205
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: ten maybe thirteen or so years ago, my grandmother raised me,

1206
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: adopted me for a while too, And I have moments

1207
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 3: in waves where I'll like see something it doesn't it

1208
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: just reminds me and it's like it's like I get

1209
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: kicked in the like side, yeah, and you're like, oh man,

1210
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: I really miss what is.

1211
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 9: It for you?

1212
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 8: Sometimes? I was reading a book this morning and it

1213
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 8: was talking about dreams. It's this psychiatrist book. He was

1214
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 8: talking about the dreams this one one of her patients had.

1215
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 8: And that's the best way I can explain, Like when

1216
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 8: it does kicky on the side, you're just like, damn,

1217
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 8: it comes out of nowhere too, where all of a

1218
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 8: sudden your back You remember the phone call. I remember

1219
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 8: the phone call from my mom, Chase. She said my

1220
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 8: name was real shaky and shut the fridge like I

1221
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 8: remember details, shut the freezer and she said, oh god.

1222
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 8: My first thought when she said my name and it

1223
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 8: was shaky, was oh god, was she found out that

1224
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 8: I've done? Like that's a guilty continence right there. And

1225
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 8: then she said, Chase, come home. Dad died And I'm

1226
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 8: just like, whoa what? Like the only way I know

1227
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 8: how to explain it is the worst dream you ever

1228
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 8: had in your life, where it's it's that nightmare where

1229
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 8: you wake up and you're like, oh, what was it

1230
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 8: was that real? Okay, No, that wasn't real. Thank god,

1231
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 8: that wasn't real. Like that that would end your life

1232
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 8: if that was real, and life is you know it anyway,

1233
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 8: But it's that and it's real, and then it doesn't stop,

1234
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 8: and for the next few hours you're still processing what

1235
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 8: just happened. And I was driving home, like.

1236
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 4: Where you driving from Nashville.

1237
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 8: I lived in chapel I was in college, so I

1238
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 8: was driving from Chapehoo to Ashville. The first phone call

1239
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 8: I made was my ex girlfriend, who was like my

1240
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 8: high school girlfriend, so she knew him really well. Called

1241
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 8: her and told her. I don't remember how that conversation went.

1242
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 8: My brother, Casey and I talked three times on the

1243
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 8: drive home, and it was more just like what's going

1244
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 8: on because I didn't ask how he died. He had

1245
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 8: a heart attack, but I didn't know that in my

1246
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 8: mind he fell off the roof or something working on

1247
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 8: the house. So that whole drive was just like it

1248
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 8: takes sometimes like this morning, it didn't happen. But sometimes

1249
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 8: it'll hit you, like you'll be back in that place

1250
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 8: where your mom calls you and it hits you like

1251
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 8: a ton of bricks and your life just stops and

1252
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 8: you're back in that moment, even if it's first split second,

1253
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 8: but you're just back there and it's it's a shit feeling.

1254
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 8: But I have done a lot of work talking to people,

1255
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 8: therapy stuff Like I went to rehab twice and the

1256
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 8: first time I went, I was like, I didn't talk

1257
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 8: about anything that I thought I was gonna go back

1258
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 8: into all this stuff, which is awesome. You Now, looking back,

1259
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 8: I'm like, Okay, that's so necessary. But I dealt with

1260
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 8: the loss of him a lot. But it's still never

1261
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 8: It's never gonna go away.

1262
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: And you're right first, You're right, it's not gone away

1263
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: at all for me, especially the waves, Like it's not

1264
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: as constant, but the waves are equally as powerful, right

1265
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: when they do come in.

1266
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1267
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: But also I look at it as a blessing too

1268
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: that I get to be sad, which is a twisted

1269
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 3: ishu way.

1270
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: But my grandmother was so valuable. Yeah, I had no

1271
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 4: consistency at all.

1272
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1273
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: My dad left when I was five or sick. My

1274
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: mom was an addict orr whole life, died in the forties.

1275
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 3: My grandma adopted me and was there. And the fact

1276
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: that I'm so sad I missed her so much, Like

1277
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: I feel very lucky that I get to be.

1278
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: Sad, Yeah, because she was that awesome.

1279
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 3: Yeah that I'm lucky that I'm sad because I could

1280
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 3: not be sad, and I would have had no consistency

1281
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 3: and no love.

1282
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 8: That's crazy, awesome way to look at it.

1283
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: It's I think it's survival for me. Honestly, I do

1284
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: believe it. But it's weird even to say out loud,

1285
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: where it's like I feel blessed to be sad because

1286
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: that was the one person for me that was she

1287
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: was seventy, but she was right there.

1288
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1289
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 3: So you know, when I hear the stories about you, dad,

1290
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: I'm jealous. Yeah, but I'm also super grateful that you

1291
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 3: had that.

1292
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 8: This crossed my mind for sure, like would you rather have?

1293
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 8: And I told people all the time back then. I'll

1294
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 8: still say it like I got more out of twenty

1295
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 8: two years than most people get from their dad in

1296
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 8: a lifetime. And I've wondered, like what's harder what happened

1297
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 8: with me or never knowing him at all? And I'll

1298
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 8: take what happened with me all day.

1299
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 4: Ten times out of ten. Absolutely.

1300
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 12: Yeah, hang tight. The Bobby Cast will be right back.

1301
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 12: Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.

1302
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: The back of your record is your dog?

1303
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1304
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 4: Also very meaningful to you.

1305
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's awesome. So I haven't seen her like a week,

1306
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 8: this morning a morning.

1307
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, So tell me about him.

1308
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 8: So he's he's a black lab named Jack. I want.

1309
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 8: I always wanted a dog, but I wanted him for

1310
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 8: for like I always wanted to go bird hunting with

1311
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 8: a dog, with my own dog. So that's what I've

1312
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 8: got him for. And he goes to training back and forth.

1313
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 8: He's not a pointer, he's a retriever.

1314
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 4: Thought it like, you take him duck hunting. Yeah, he

1315
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 4: goes to gets to.

1316
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 8: Bring the back scorn and we were on a walk

1317
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 8: and I was throwing the thing. He was hell to

1318
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 8: go till he drops. But I got him because of

1319
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 8: the song bench Seat, which is on my record, which

1320
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 8: is a song about my budd almost shoot himself.

1321
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 4: You wrote that one by yourself from my mind?

1322
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 7: Is that right?

1323
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 8: Yeah? I got it and I wrote it in my

1324
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 8: breakfast room and it was a third song that I

1325
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 8: wrote by myself on the record. But I'm writing this

1326
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 8: song and in my mind, I've got a video going through,

1327
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 8: Like I don't know why the whole video is in

1328
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 8: my head while I'm right. It actually helped me write

1329
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 8: the song. And uh, it's about my buddy who put

1330
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 8: a gun to his head and didn't pull the trigger twice.

1331
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 8: I thought he was a coward for not being able

1332
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 8: to do it. It's like, damn that that's when you're

1333
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 8: in a bad place, when you can't even see it,

1334
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 8: like you did the right thing, man, and he didn't.

1335
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 8: As his dog came up put his.

1336
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 4: Head on his lap, he felt love right then.

1337
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, he knew he'd have to leave the dog,

1338
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 8: like who's gonna take care of Yeah, he might even

1339
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 8: put blood on the dog, like he would have made

1340
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 8: a mess.

1341
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 4: And that's left from him to the dog. Worrying about

1342
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: the dog.

1343
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, wow, And he knew this dog is pretty awesome

1344
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 8: talking about my buddy's dog. But he knew what the

1345
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 8: dog was thinking, like, don't do this. And I think

1346
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 8: the dog knew there was a problem. Obviously, maybe not

1347
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 8: cognitive thought like we have, but he knew there was

1348
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 8: something wrong, and so he came into my house and

1349
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 8: got help. You know, just third second or third night,

1350
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 8: I go up and flipped the light on him, like,

1351
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 8: which is funny because going back to my dad, my

1352
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 8: dad caught me on the phone talking to a girl

1353
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 8: saying a bunch of shit you just don't say to girls.

1354
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 8: And then at the end of the conversation, I said,

1355
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 8: I love you like I didn't. I was clueless, you're

1356
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 8: middle school. You don't know middle school. And he came up.

1357
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 8: This is crazy, I don't have ever pieces together. But

1358
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 8: he came up, flipped the light on, and sat down,

1359
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 8: and I knew I was busted. It's like, oh oh,

1360
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 8: he was on the phone the whole time. Fast forward

1361
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 8: to my buddy. It was like I had this thing

1362
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 8: where like I knew he was in trouble. Different situation.

1363
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 8: I'm not his dad, you know, I don't. It's a

1364
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 8: different situation. But I went up and it flipped the

1365
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 8: light on and leaned against the wall and just said,

1366
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 8: what's up, dude? And he uh, he said, oh, I'm good.

1367
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 8: I'm good. I'm just he's like sitting up out of bed.

1368
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 8: He's trying to go to sleep. Dog was on the

1369
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 8: floor And I said, no, what's up? Why are you here?

1370
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 8: So you never come? You never come to visit me

1371
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 8: like this. You don't even like I just showed Atlanta, you'

1372
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 8: even come to the show. What are you doing here?

1373
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 8: And what's because he was a dark he was dark,

1374
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 8: and uh, he just loses it, face gets red, starts

1375
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 8: bawling his eyes out, puts his hand like this, and

1376
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 8: explains how he almost shot himself. I guess two or

1377
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 8: three nights before and that point, I'm just I'm just listening,

1378
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 8: and uh, he got the work from a lady here

1379
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 8: that I was seeing, who was awesome. She like made

1380
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 8: it a point, Okay, I need to see him every day.

1381
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 8: Started the work. Then then that's been years ago. That

1382
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 8: was probably twenty eighteen nineteen. And then fast forward to

1383
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 8: twenty twenty sometime and he's at my house. He's doing

1384
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 8: much better. I'm like, okay, I got my friend back.

1385
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 8: He's back, and now he's doing even better. I saw

1386
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 8: him over Christmas. He's awesome. Man, he just got gazed.

1387
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 8: So he's joking around the fire and he's like, man, bro,

1388
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 8: you should write a song about a god driving around

1389
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 8: his truck with his dog. And I just laugh. I'm like,

1390
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 8: let's cliche, Like the most cliche song you can almost write.

1391
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 8: Three days later, a text her call him and I

1392
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 8: was like, dude, I wrote it. It's not gonna be

1393
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 8: what you're gonna expect. Fast forward to the me writing

1394
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 8: ben C having the the video movie idea in my head.

1395
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 8: That was the moment I was like, Okay, if I'm

1396
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 8: gonna have a dog in this video, it's gonna be

1397
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 8: my dog. Originally he was gonna be the puppy. Took

1398
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 8: his two years a piece together the video and make

1399
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 8: it right. So Jackson middle dog in the video. But

1400
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 8: that's that's what sent me over the edge of like,

1401
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 8: all right, I'm getting a dog finally.

1402
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 4: And you put him on the back of the record

1403
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 4: to show what.

1404
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 8: Well cowboys and dogs for whatever reason with the theme

1405
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 8: of this record, probably because I was addressing, you know,

1406
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 8: my dad, who's on the cover, and then jack was

1407
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 8: on the back. Jack I think I mentioned dog like

1408
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 8: four or five times in this record. I'll get off

1409
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 8: it on the next one. But that's where I'm in life.

1410
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 8: This dog, he came into my life. I don't I

1411
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 8: wouldn't say saved my life or anything, but he's made

1412
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 8: my life a lot better and he's made me more

1413
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 8: capable of loving someone and being loved.

1414
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely did it for me. My dog did the same thing. Yeah,

1415
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: people think I'm crazy when I say that. Yeah, I

1416
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: think when I said amen, I was, I was just

1417
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: a vistial reacts to me going eight. I felt that, Yeah,

1418
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 3: why do you think that about you?

1419
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't like the I don't like the

1420
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 8: idea of someone loving me, and I don't know why

1421
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 8: I think. I think it stems for my dad passing

1422
00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 8: away to where I haven't had that in fifteen years now,

1423
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 8: So I'm like, ah, I'm good. Plus you put on

1424
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 8: this front like you're all tough, Plus you have fame

1425
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 8: start coming into the picture, so you don't really know

1426
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 8: who to trust. And I just don't like the idea.

1427
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 8: It makes me uncomfortable. So it's funny when I'm that

1428
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 8: tough guy or putting on the act and then all

1429
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 8: of a sudden rolling around on the floor with Jack

1430
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 8: and he has a thing about it. There's no judgment,

1431
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 8: there's no there's no falseness to it. It's just you

1432
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 8: and your dollar rolling around on the floor and me

1433
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 8: like talking in a higher pitched voice that I'm used

1434
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 8: to that i'll ever talk to anybody. So I think,

1435
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 8: first it's allowed me to let myself be loved by

1436
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 8: something or someone, and then that can flip hopefully that

1437
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 8: you know, allows me to flip it into loving somebody

1438
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 8: at some point. And I'm not saying I don't love it.

1439
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 8: Like I love my mom, I love my brother.

1440
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah right, but like a romantic trust, non blood love

1441
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: that you don't that you.

1442
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 5: Have to work at.

1443
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 3: You have to worry because your brother's gonna be brother regardless,

1444
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: he's always I'll be your brother.

1445
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 8: Yeah you hold are you thirty seven? Okay?

1446
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 3: So I didn't I am get married will I was

1447
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: thirty nine and never been engaged, was never in a

1448
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 3: serious relationship, and in my valves what I said, I like,

1449
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 3: the hardest.

1450
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 4: Thing I have to do is learn to be loved.

1451
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 8: Be loved. Yeah wow.

1452
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 3: And my dog Dusty, who had for thirteen years, like

1453
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: I would practice because I did.

1454
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 5: I love that dog.

1455
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: I never told anybody I loved him my whole life.

1456
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 4: I didn't say it. I just didn't.

1457
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 8: I didn't know.

1458
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 7: I didn't.

1459
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: I didn't know how to.

1460
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 3: But that dog I would tell him all the time,

1461
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 3: Like I mean, it makes me emotional think about it.

1462
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 3: I was just like I would say, man, I love you,

1463
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: I love And it's the only that I wouldn't even

1464
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't even say love.

1465
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 4: In recreating a situation that I didn't say it we

1466
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 4: were talking about and.

1467
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: They'd be on the show, be like what if you

1468
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 3: you met, how would you say it? I'd be like, oh,

1469
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 3: I can't I live with that dog like almost like

1470
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: trained me to when it finally happened. Yeah, and it

1471
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: wasn't easy. Wow, But when it finally happened with my

1472
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 3: wife now, it was like, this feels different. I can't

1473
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: piss this away. I know I'm capable because I love

1474
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: that animal before he died. So when you said that,

1475
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: I was like, dang, Like I felt that more than anything. Yeah,

1476
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: because that was a big part of my life. It's

1477
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 3: a thirteen year old dog who adopted from a puppy

1478
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: meal and that changed it, and that that changed it all.

1479
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 3: Are you like, I mean, I'm assuming you want a family?

1480
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do for sure.

1481
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 8: I'm in a place right now where I'm extremely lonely

1482
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 8: a lot, but I'm okay with it. It's not like

1483
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 8: I'm in this depressed state. I just I'm living in it, man.

1484
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 8: And I also understand that a dog isn't enough, Like

1485
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 8: I don't want to be the guy that's fifty years

1486
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 8: old just with him and his dog. But I've earned it,

1487
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 8: like I've earned the lonely. But I'm doing it on

1488
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 8: purpose for now, because I just feel like that's what

1489
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 8: I need to do for myself. And also I think

1490
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 8: it's going to take something that extreme to get me

1491
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 8: out of this place of or get me into the

1492
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 8: place of wanting to really be with somebody, one person.

1493
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 8: Because I'll tell you one thing I was thinking about.

1494
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 8: I think about this all the time, but like going

1495
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 8: down the road of a lot of women, no matter

1496
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 8: how tough you can sound in front of your buddies

1497
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 8: and the ones that say don't ever get married and

1498
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 8: all this, it leads you to extreme depression. And I

1499
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 8: don't know all the details of why, but it leads

1500
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 8: you to a very very dark place, and it leads

1501
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 8: you to a lot of sex with a zero intimacy.

1502
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 8: And then the more you do it, the more it

1503
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 8: leads you to just wanting to be alone. And it's

1504
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 8: a dark place to be.

1505
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,160
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