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Speaker 1: Fish Stripes Unfiltered episode of twenty eight. It is just

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Speaker 1: Isaac and I today, Isaac Hawari, we have a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about today. We have Top thirty prospects talk.

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Speaker 1: We both made our list and they're both out. And

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna talk about Don Maddenley a little bit,

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Speaker 1: his firing, what we think about it, and maybe throw

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Speaker 1: out a candidate out there.

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Speaker 2: To Isaac Hawarden, I'm doing great, man.

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, it was a mutual parting of ways

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Speaker 3: between Donny and the Marlins announced on Sunday. We're recording

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Speaker 3: this on Thursday, September twenty ninth, And yeah, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: we'll get into a little bit more depth later on

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Speaker 3: in this episode, but yeah, we'll have to covered today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, as always, just subscribe on YouTube and everywhere

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Speaker 1: where you listen to the pod, and let's just get

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Speaker 1: right into it. Don Naddiley, this was definitely expected, I

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Speaker 1: would say at some point during the season, maybe not this.

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Speaker 1: I guess we maybe expected towards the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: in case after the season, but you know, both of

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Speaker 1: these both Bruce Sherman and Don Matteley came out with

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Speaker 1: the statement of their.

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Speaker 4: Own I thought we were turning the corner in twenty

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Speaker 4: you know, we kind of maybe overachieved just a touch

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Speaker 4: that confidence and that unity as the organization was moving forward,

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Speaker 4: that we were going to be able to turn the corner.

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Speaker 4: Last year was disappointing, and then this year has really been,

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Speaker 4: you know, kind of more of the same. And that's

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Speaker 4: really kind of the conclusion I come to is, is

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Speaker 4: it's time for a new voice, right, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: it's time. I think it's best for the organization, quite honestly,

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Speaker 4: that we that we have a new voice and and

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Speaker 1: Both sides mutually agreed that a new voice was needed,

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Speaker 1: and you kind of saw things going down after that

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Speaker 1: team meeting, Isaac. So I just want to get your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on don madding least ten year overalls as a general,

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Speaker 1: as the manager, and your thoughts on his firing or

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Speaker 3: It's ironic that it's you know, a couple of days

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Speaker 3: after this was announced. It's when we have seen Donnie

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Speaker 3: as livid as I've seen him in his entire Marlins tenure.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he's been here since twenty sixteen, He's had

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Speaker 3: to navigate. He went in with a team that was

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Speaker 2: He had a you know, carry, not carry, but you

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Speaker 3: Really managed his team through one of the biggest tragedies

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Speaker 3: and then he really embraced the bill that Derek Jeter

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Speaker 3: He has been nothing but pure class since he's been here.

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Speaker 3: I've gotten to know in the past couple of years,

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Speaker 3: He's the same guy who will never throw a player

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Speaker 3: under the bus. And I unfortunately, I did think the

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Speaker 3: time was right for there to be a new voice,

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna I would not want to be in

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Speaker 3: Kim Ang's shoes because she has some really a really

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Speaker 3: to replace. Don Mattingley for sure. And there you go

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Speaker 3: with these statements. I'll read the statement from Princevill owner

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Speaker 3: Bruce Sherman. We are fortunate to have had Don Manningley

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Speaker 3: leading our team on the field over the last seven years.

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Speaker 3: He has represented the Marlins, our players, our fans, and

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Speaker 3: the South Florida community with unmatched dignity and pride. Over

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Speaker 3: the course of our recent conversations with Don, we both

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Speaker 3: agreed not to pursue a new contract for the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three season and that the time is right for

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Speaker 3: a new voice to lead our clubhouse. He will depart

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Speaker 3: with the most wins and most games managed in franchise history.

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Speaker 3: And we are proud of Don's many accomplishments, including Winnie

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this wasn't a parting of anitial on one

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Speaker 1: guess we could talk about who this new voice could be.

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Speaker 1: Do you have anyone in your in your mind? I mean,

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Speaker 2: Speculate on who it might be.

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Speaker 1: We're here to talk about top thirty prospects. Isaac recently

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Speaker 1: And the only other name I guess we could touch

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Speaker 2: I'll keep it.

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Speaker 1: Short, yes, yes, sor right there we go. So let's

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Speaker 2: I think you gotta start with Jacob Miller.

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Speaker 3: I know you love Joe mackab Ironically, we have him

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Speaker 3: remember where you had Ian Lowis, but I think the

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Speaker 2: He had it was weird with him.

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Speaker 3: He had one good start, one bad start, and he

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Speaker 2: His high school SATs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the DSL is in exactly my area

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Speaker 3: There's guys like these Jose Girardo. You named a couple

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Speaker 1: So the only other name. I think, I think I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's someone that might follow the twelve thirteen by

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Speaker 4: It's a grand Slam for Durar.

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Speaker 3: So it's been so maybe you guys like Ian Lewis

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Speaker 1: In a name that I'm pretty sure I don't know

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Speaker 3: He was pitching one in Beloit and when he got

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Speaker 3: He started this year in Double A Pensacolas again and

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Speaker 2: Not pitched well at double A at all. So we'll see.

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Speaker 3: They might throw him a triple A just because the

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Speaker 2: But we'll see. That's a we'll see where they put him.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a different player, but when Jingo Blade

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, switch hitter, he's got a cannon

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the last player I want to mention is

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Speaker 1: So you're just seeing how much DSL guys were getting

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you did twenty five, and you do have Andrew

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Speaker 1: you have Gryffin Conan on here?

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Speaker 1: He was okay. So how come griff and Conan didn't

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Speaker 3: I think you know the answer to that. You know,

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Speaker 3: You know, to think of him as anything more than.

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Speaker 3: No, I forget how old he is exactly, mm.

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Speaker 2: There he is.

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Speaker 1: And you have Charles LeBlanc on your list, so I

438
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Speaker 1: get them. Yeah, I get having him on there. He's

439
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Speaker 1: been great at the big leagues. Heel was great in

440
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Speaker 1: Triple A, good enough to get Triple A Player of

441
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Speaker 1: the Year, so shout out to him. I guess on

442
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Speaker 1: your end you have Jose Devers. Yes, so you still

443
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Speaker 1: consider him a top thirty guy.

444
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Speaker 2: I do. I do. He was called up like for

445
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Speaker 2: no reason.

446
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,679
Speaker 3: You know, it was really horrible, the fact that they

447
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,000
Speaker 3: called him up when he just wasn't ready. He's been

448
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,040
Speaker 3: hurt so many times. I still believe in the back

449
00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,960
Speaker 3: to ball skills. I still believe in the speed. I

450
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,040
Speaker 3: still believe in the glove he's he's gonna have to fill.

451
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:51,399
Speaker 2: Out a little bit.

452
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Speaker 3: I haven't been able to put my eyes on him

453
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Speaker 3: for a while. You know, he's because he's just been

454
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Speaker 3: you know, nowhere to be seen. He's been mia. But

455
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Speaker 3: I still believe in him. I think he'll be in

456
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Speaker 3: spring training fully ready to go. And yeah, I like

457
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Speaker 3: Hosey Deverson. He's the last remaining piece from the John

458
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Speaker 3: Carlos Stanton trade, so the Marlins better hope they get

459
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Speaker 3: something out of him. But I still see him as

460
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Speaker 3: utility and field the guy maybe get a lot of starts,

461
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Speaker 3: maybe left them hitting John Birdie who just hopefully puts

462
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Speaker 3: the ball in play as much.

463
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Speaker 2: As Bertie does. But yeah, I think he's a he's

464
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Speaker 2: a good looking ballplayer.

465
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Speaker 1: Paul McIntosh did not make your list. Many assume that

466
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Speaker 1: he's definitely a top thirty guy. He is in my eyes,

467
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Speaker 1: as you could see. I have him at twenty four,

468
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Speaker 1: just one one into not putting a guy like Macintosh

469
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Speaker 1: in there after what he's done this season for the

470
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Speaker 1: WA who's I mean even pretty damn good. And I

471
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Speaker 1: know his defense isn't the greatest out there, and not

472
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Speaker 1: many seem translating as a catcher to the big leagues,

473
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Speaker 1: maybe as a first baseman or a corner outfielder. So

474
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Speaker 1: just your thoughts in the macintosh because the bat is there,

475
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Speaker 1: it's just a defense, I think.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's about to turn twenty five. He's a bad,

477
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Speaker 2: bad catcher.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the batt will have to carry him all the

479
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,120
Speaker 3: way there.

480
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Speaker 2: And he's a good ballplayer.

481
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Speaker 3: He's a good, you know, depth piece for the organization

482
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Speaker 3: if they need, you know, if Stalin's it's heard or

483
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 3: Fortes gets hurt. I think he could be someone that's

484
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Speaker 3: knocking on the door. But to rank him above guys

485
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Speaker 3: you know, like Soriano and Simpson and McCants who are

486
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Speaker 3: just young and really talented, it'd be tough.

487
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Speaker 2: He will be in my honorable mention though. It's been

488
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Speaker 2: a hell of a season from Paul McIntosh.

489
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Speaker 1: So we both have this guy on the list.

490
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Speaker 5: M V.

491
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Speaker 1: Johnson playing his second full season with beloity. For me,

492
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Speaker 1: he barely, he barely. He had a good season for Beloit.

493
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Speaker 1: The issue has been that he's in Beloit. He should

494
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Speaker 1: be in Pensacola. And many of our eyes, he played

495
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Speaker 1: a full season twice, so two seasons in Beloit. Your

496
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Speaker 1: thoughts on end and why did he just crack your list?

497
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Speaker 1: Because he was pretty good. I mean, in my eyes,

498
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Speaker 1: he was good enough to make the list, and you

499
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Speaker 1: see I put him pretty comfortably there at number twenty seven.

500
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Speaker 1: And I want to talk about one other guy after.

501
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's another twenty five year old guy that you

502
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Speaker 3: said it he should be in Beloit. I really, I'm

503
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Speaker 3: sorry he should be in Pensacola. I didn't see the

504
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Speaker 3: reason to not at least give him a few starts

505
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Speaker 3: the way they did to Fulton. You know, Fulton is

506
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Speaker 3: what nineteen and they're not going to give M. V.

507
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: Johnson a few starts out there. But he performed really well.

508
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: You know, he had the strikeouts, he didn't allow a

509
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: ton of hits, didn't allow a ton of home runs,

510
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 3: but he did give up a few. So he's someone

511
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Speaker 3: that you know, he's gonna be twenty six at the

512
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Speaker 3: end of next season, and hopefully he'll still be in

513
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Speaker 3: the system, but he's gonna be a double a tripa

514
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 3: and maybe someone that gets a call up next year.

515
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Speaker 3: I don't know how they didn't call out to the

516
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 3: higher levels this season, like you said, but yeah, he's

517
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Speaker 3: someone that I that has looked good towards the end

518
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Speaker 3: of the season.

519
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then one guy who we expected to get

520
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: the call up did not get it. He is on

521
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Speaker 1: the very bottom portion of our list. Twenty nine for me,

522
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Speaker 1: twenty for you. Josh Simpson very weird. He didn't get

523
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Speaker 1: the call up because this bullpen has not been performing.

524
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: We see what Andrew Nardi has done. It's just not

525
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 1: been good. Struggled a lot, obviously this is his first season.

526
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Speaker 1: Just got the call up. But your thoughts on Josh

527
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Speaker 1: Simpson and why he may have not gotten the call

528
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: up there.

529
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Speaker 3: I think I think he fell victim to Alex Carver's propaganda.

530
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: He was good, he's a good player, He's really good.

531
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Speaker 3: I think you should have gone a call up. But

532
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the end of the world that

533
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: he didn't. It's a shame that they gave, you know,

534
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 3: Wesker bras Oban and the other one, I forget his name,

535
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 3: so many opportunities probably him, Yes, and here Zabala. They

536
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Speaker 3: could have given Simpson the opportunity, but he had struggles,

537
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 3: you know, so did Nardi. But you know, Jeffrey Yan

538
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 3: and Josh Simpson had their struggles out of the bullpen,

539
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 3: you know, at times, and they were really bad. I

540
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: think the last thing that this team wants is for

541
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 3: these young guys to come.

542
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: Up and pitched away.

543
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: Andrew Nordi is pitching, you know, and so I think

544
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Speaker 3: maybe that scared him a little bit.

545
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: Who knows, maybe not, But yeah, we were on the

546
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Speaker 2: assumption that Justinson would get the call.

547
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I don't think

548
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 3: it's uh, it's the end of the world that he didn't.

549
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then wh what else?

550
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: Meet your thoughts on George Soriano your favorite guy.

551
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Speaker 1: He's good, He's really good. I don't know why I didn't

552
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: put him hi on the top thirty. I think he's

553
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: definitely gonna make it in their next time, just dominant.

554
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: You know, everything is good for him. I saw him

555
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: more in a reliever role, and he showed that in Jacksonville.

556
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: He's been really freaking good as a reliever. So he's

557
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: definitely someone who they have to try to protect because

558
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: we believe he could go in too. Minor league free

559
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: agency could elect that. So we'll see what happens there

560
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: with George Soriano. But you did Carson millbrand Is the

561
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: next time I think we get into because you had

562
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Speaker 1: him ranked a lot higher than myself. The reasoning for

563
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: mill Brandt so low for me is because I really

564
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: haven't seen much of him and really don't know much,

565
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: but I know he's really good. And they overpaid for

566
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: this guy a lot, and I'm pretty sure slot value

567
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: was it was a normal slot value and they gotten

568
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Speaker 1: for way way over that value. So Isaac, why is

569
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Speaker 1: no Brandt rated so high for you?

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I like to put I like to

571
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Speaker 3: give the fresh draft picks an opportunity to debut on

572
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Speaker 3: the list, you know, just in case they don't perform

573
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Speaker 3: well they fall off.

574
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Speaker 2: But now I like the fastball coming out of the draft.

575
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Speaker 3: He didn't really perform, like only through two innings I

576
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 3: think in professional baseball this year, and I gave I

577
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 3: think he gave up tour and runs, so.

578
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: He wasn't up to the best of stars.

579
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: But I liked the tools, like I said, the curveball,

580
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: the fastball, it all looked good.

581
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 2: For me, so I had him pretty high up. I

582
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Speaker 2: think I had him.

583
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 3: I had him at seventeen, so I think that's afair

584
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: and maybe you could you e or take a couple

585
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: of spots, but I think that was a fair assessment

586
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 3: for Carson.

587
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: Now, now that we pretty much looked at the wholest,

588
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: is there anything that you could see on my list

589
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: that needs to change? And then I'll say the same

590
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: thing for you.

591
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: I think you have Griffin pretty high in twenty fifth.

592
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 3: I like that we both believe in Jordan McCants. I

593
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: think the glove is spectacular. I think the personality is

594
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: a one. Hopefully he hits a little bit, but you know,

595
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Speaker 3: since his brother is hitting, I think that means he's

596
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 3: gonna be a star.

597
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it looks good. I like Charles LeBlanc. You know,

598
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: he's a guy. He hits.

599
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 3: He's I don't know what including he's one of the

600
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Speaker 3: few guys that when he got called up, he hit

601
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: And it's September twenty ninth and he's still hitting a

602
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: little bit.

603
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: That's not but he's still hitting, So maybe he's someone.

604
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Speaker 3: How would you feel about Brian Anderson, Joey Wendell, Jordan

605
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: Grosschan's Charles LeBlanc in field next year.

606
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: Oh lord, I ought to be too proud of having

607
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: Ba in there. I think I see more as an outfielder,

608
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Speaker 1: not after what we've seen lately. This guy has a

609
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: hand of an arm and we saw it last night

610
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: against the Mets. I think it was an extra innings

611
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: where Ba just through an absolute cannon did not allow

612
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: Lindor to tag there. So LeBlanc has been good. He's

613
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: kind of under that dan Augla situation where they're both

614
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: the same age, they're both Rule five and they both

615
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: had a lot of success. Not saying LeBlanc will be

616
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Speaker 1: dan Ugler, but the situation was very similar. And me,

617
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 1: who did not watch dan Augla that much play somehow

618
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: saying that one. But from your list, I think I

619
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Speaker 1: would just move up Ian Lewis, to be honest with you,

620
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Speaker 1: and I would add Paul Macintosh in there. I think

621
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Speaker 1: he could. I think he could remove Nardi.

622
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: Remove Nardi, yeah.

623
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Speaker 1: Honestly, and you put Pemack around the lower areas there,

624
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Speaker 1: because we've seen what Nardi has done at the big

625
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: league level. It's not been it's not been pretty. And

626
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Speaker 1: Dever's yeah, I don't mind keeping them in there.

627
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: It definitely has been concerning. And Lewis he struggled this year.

628
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: He's still so young, and I think once he stops

629
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 3: switch hitting is when he'll really take off. But you know,

630
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 3: I think he struggled a little bit at in Jupiter.

631
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

632
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: I like where I have.

633
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: Him right now?

634
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and where do you see you see him hitting

635
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: lefty or righting?

636
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 2: Man, I forgot.

637
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: I think he hits lefty fantastic. Eli can come in

638
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: and tell us, I think, yeah, he hit one. I

639
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: think left he hit like two ninety five or three

640
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: oh five, and righty he was hitting below one twenty

641
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 3: or something. So he's definitely should stop switch hitting, sort

642
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: of the reverse Ozzie Albi's splits.

643
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna look up Lewis's stats because I know

644
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: he was injured at the start of the season and

645
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: he came in and he was just on a tear.

646
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: But I can right now, I can keep hitting two

647
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: sixty five, three forty seven, three sixty eight seven fifteen

648
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: oh ps, two homers, twenty one RBIs. So it's solid.

649
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: His ops is good, meaning he's bring a good contribution.

650
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: But Eli, there's any way, who could put up the

651
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: page before this just so we could take another look

652
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Speaker 1: and see what other changes we can make to these

653
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Speaker 1: lists for the next time around. If you're there, not

654
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: there you go. What are your thoughts on Victor Masa.

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Speaker 3: As a right handed as a right handed battery Ian

656
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Speaker 3: Lewis hit one thirty as a left handed battery hit

657
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Speaker 3: three h nine, so just become a left hitter. Victor

658
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: Masa Junior another down year, not a lot of impacting

659
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Speaker 3: the baseball. Unfortunately, he'll go to the AFL this year

660
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 3: and go up against some tough competition. Still extremely young,

661
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: still very talented.

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Speaker 1: I don't have high hopes, you know, I mean, up

663
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Speaker 1: there we go perfect. This is amazing thinking. So I

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Speaker 1: mean we could talk a little bit about the guys

665
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: that are going to go to the AFL. As you mentioned,

666
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Speaker 1: Jose Salace is one. I think it'll be highlighted by

667
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: Jose Salace and Joe Mack and then you have you

668
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: just mentioned Victor Mesa and then some other guys in there,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know if we have the list of

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00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: those guys somehow, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think we can stick with these and Jose's.

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Speaker 1: Not the main highlighted guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, Salas really sort of saved the season

674
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: a little bit, playing pretty well at Beloit. Still didn't

675
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Speaker 3: impact the ball as much as I would have liked,

676
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: but he got on base the decent amounts, so that

677
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: I think that's important. He's another switch hitter as well.

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Speaker 3: He'll be a third baseman. I'm very intriguing to see

679
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Speaker 3: what he does in the AFL. I hope he plays

680
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: well him at Victor Mason Junior. I guess Joe Mack

681
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: really highlighted the group. But yeah, I think I think

682
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Speaker 3: Jose Salas can be can be special. I think his

683
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: ceiling has been sort of compromised a little bit. I

684
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Speaker 3: don't see him being that super star that I may

685
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: have thought he could be going into this season. But

686
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Speaker 3: I think I still think he can be a very

687
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Speaker 3: good big league regular.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and with Joe Mac, just keep in mind he's

689
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: been injured most of this season. But he is a

690
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Speaker 1: I think Djisvelik mentioned this first. He is a hitting

691
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Speaker 1: for He's an offensive first catcher, so his defenses may

692
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Speaker 1: not be the greatest. And it's kind of like a

693
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Speaker 1: lot of these catchers in the big leagues, And I

694
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Speaker 1: mean I'm sorry in the minor league system, but keep

695
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: in mind AFL pitching is not the greatest. And also

696
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Speaker 1: keep in mind that the ballparks, I'm pretty sure that

697
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: ball flies there. So look what Jajibla did that he

698
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: got an AFL m VP. He was the AFL All

699
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Star and look what he's doing now. So I don't know,

700
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Speaker 1: do you want to talk about jj Blude. I know

701
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: you've had your your your strong feelings about Blade and

702
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Speaker 1: he's someone that made up both of our lists at

703
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: the time and with the graduation of him very recently

704
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: no longer prospect or considered one. He was off our lists.

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Speaker 1: So where did you originally have him? Then? What have

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Speaker 1: been your thoughts on him?

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Speaker 3: So we could end it after this, I had Bladay

708
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Speaker 3: at seven, I had a Yuri Meyer Silas Eater, Barry Watson,

709
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Speaker 3: and then Bladet. I originally had him at fifth and

710
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: after you know, over the last couple of weeks he

711
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: has struggled mightily. I don't like the player at all.

712
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: I haven't been quiet about that. I don't think he

713
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: has any future as being a bigly regular playing every

714
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Speaker 3: single day. I think the arm is good in the outfield,

715
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: he's not a centerfielder.

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Speaker 1: Poor guy.

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00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: He's asked to task.

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Speaker 3: He's been tasked with playing at a very big lone

719
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Speaker 3: Deeople Park center field, which hasn't been easy on him.

720
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, he is just so you know,

721
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: content with drawing a walk rather than and you know,

722
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Speaker 3: making damage. And it's been tough. It's been tough to watch.

723
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Speaker 3: But you know, hopefully maybe an off season with some

724
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: hitting coaches will.

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Speaker 2: Help him out next year.

726
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Speaker 3: But I know I wouldn't put too much stock in

727
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: JJ Blide is starting off field it for the Marlins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of on Isaac's and here where you

729
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: can't blame the guy for playing for being put in

730
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Speaker 1: a position where he is in center field. And I'm

731
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Speaker 1: surprised you really haven't moved him permanently from there because

732
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Speaker 1: you've seen the mistakes he's made. I guess it's just

733
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Speaker 1: another situation of letting the player work through his mistakes,

734
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Speaker 1: I guess, but it's not working this time. And yes,

735
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Speaker 1: he started off pretty well at center field, I'll give

736
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Speaker 1: him that, just it's kind of like a he do Sanches.

737
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Speaker 1: Where he started off, it was, it was impressive and

738
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Speaker 1: the you know, his hit where he takes at bats

739
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: is very good as well. I mean that's something that's

740
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: impressed me. But the guy can't hit. I mean he's

741
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I said this once and I'll say it again. In

742
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: my opinion, he's like a whole Hayes Hilaire. This guy.

743
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Speaker 1: All he does is hit homer is and he can't

744
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: hit for contact, and he walks and he strikes out

745
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: at a very high rate. It's it's pretty similar in

746
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Speaker 1: my eyes.

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Speaker 3: But you see when I put in this group chat,

748
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 3: I think it was a year and a half ago,

749
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Speaker 3: and I said that Brian Miller has a higher floor

750
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: than JJ Blede. Mister Eli made fun of me, Mister

751
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: Aleix Carver made fun of me. Everyone made fun of me,

752
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: and I would vary Miller is a career three thirty

753
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: three hitter in the major league. He should be a

754
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: big leaguer else They played center field, and it's really

755
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: that's the one thing I wanted to mention on this show.

756
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: It's really a shame that he wasn't able to get

757
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: at least one opportunity with the Marls.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether he'll be with the organization.

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Speaker 3: Next year, but he really deserved and he earned a

760
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: shot to have another big lead opportunity this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks. It sucks because he did get an opportunity,

762
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Speaker 1: but not fair at all. It was that one serious

763
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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, three at bats, not fair at all.

764
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Speaker 1: This guy is definitely one of those players who deserves

765
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Speaker 1: a shot to be up here over a couple other guys.

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Speaker 1: I think he should be here up here over at

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Speaker 1: Peyton Burdick, which at the time of this recording, we

768
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Speaker 1: do expect roster moves to be made with Avi Garcilla

769
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Speaker 1: coming back to the Julia Wendell coming back, and maybe

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Speaker 1: Tommy Nance I seems to we'll maybe see some guys

771
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Speaker 1: going down that shock us. But yeah, no, Brian Miller

772
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: definitely should be a big leaguer right now, and it

773
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: really does suck to see that. And I think the

774
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: final thing we could mention before he ended up is

775
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Speaker 1: that Hazu Sanchez was the Minor League player of the month,

776
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: so I guess they still consider him a minor Well,

777
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: he's a minor league right now. But any hopes for

778
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: you with Jesus Sanchez or no.

779
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, very talented player, very talented player with e lead speed.

780
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry with the lead bat speed and with the

781
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: lead power. So I always hold that hope with him.

782
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Speaker 3: I think if you just played right field every single day,

783
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: it'd be great in the outfield. But you know, he

784
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: just he has to be smart, he has to adjust

785
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: to the major league pitching.

786
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Speaker 2: And he'll be okay.

787
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Speaker 3: But I don't hold it great insanely high host but

788
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: definitely higher hopes in some of the other guys.

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Speaker 2: Fish Stripes Unfiltered, Episode number twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: My name is Azi Getzuit, and today Eli Stusman and

791
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Speaker 3: I are joined by one of the very best prospects

792
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Speaker 3: in the Marlins organization, one of the youngest players in

793
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Speaker 3: the Arizona Fall League, Jose Salas.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the time. Jose, how are

795
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Speaker 2: you doing?

796
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Speaker 5: Oh good man, Thank you guys for having me.

797
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Speaker 2: Sir, and I just guess this first question can be

798
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Speaker 2: how do you feel your season? Wet you know, Jupiter

799
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Speaker 2: and Beloit.

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Speaker 5: Felt like I had a great season. One can always

801
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 5: do more.

802
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 6: Just happy what with the Marlins and everybody has done

803
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 6: with me. I just you know how it is, just

804
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 6: grinding through the season, seasons a long season. So Jupiter

805
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 6: was pretty good, Uh felt good in Jupiter had a

806
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 6: good did. I had a good time I was while

807
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 6: I was there, and then getting the call up was

808
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 6: pretty pretty exciting for me too, getting to go playing

809
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 6: Beloit again that higher competition.

810
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I know so far, good year, Jose.

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Speaker 7: Is there any particular game or moment that like sticks

812
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 7: with you. I remember the five hit game that you had, Lloyd.

813
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 7: I saw a good amount highlights from you both hitting

814
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 7: in on defense. Is there anything that sticks with you

815
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 7: that like that you're really proud of and keep replaying

816
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 7: in your mind as like an example of this is

817
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 7: who Jose Salas looks like when he's at one hundred.

818
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 6: Per Yeah, probably the five eight game that you said

819
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 6: was pretty pretty excited.

820
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Speaker 5: I ain't never done nothing like that before.

821
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 6: But but probably for me probably the last the last

822
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Speaker 6: series I had with Jupiter and Daytona. I felt like

823
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 6: I really just went to another level that last series

824
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 6: before they called me up.

825
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 5: I wasn't expecting the call up, but.

826
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Speaker 6: Just like that last series and Daytona was just for me,

827
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 6: just was that was on another level, Like.

828
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 5: Hitting wise, defensive wise, I felt pretty good. I felt

829
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 5: like I was ready. But yeah, probably for.

830
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Speaker 6: Me the five hit and my last series and with

831
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Speaker 6: Jupiter in Daytona.

832
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: I would say the last time you and I spoke

833
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 3: it was actually at the development camp at Lone Depot Park,

834
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: I think November of last season of last year.

835
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Speaker 2: I just want to how do you feel that you've.

836
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 3: Improved as a ballplayer since the last time we spoke

837
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: last year?

838
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I've grown, you know, the time

839
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 6: being here with the team it wears on you and

840
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 6: for for the good. But you know, like how people

841
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 6: just say experience is everything, and it's true. Man Like,

842
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 6: just being here with the guys, it just it really,

843
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 6: it really just gets the best of you. I feel

844
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 6: like I've matured a little bit more, I've gotten older

845
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 6: since we've last talked. But yeah, I just feel like

846
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 6: like I know what I'm a little bit doing now

847
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 6: per se a couple of years before, which was just playing.

848
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 6: I feel like I know how to move around, and

849
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 6: I know what I can do and what our people

850
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 6: of not doing.

851
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's pretty much it.

852
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 7: Well, one thing that sticks out that you're as good

853
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 7: at anybody is stealing bases and doing it efficiently. You

854
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 7: got caught one time like five months ago, and then

855
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 7: you were perfect the rest of the way.

856
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: How do you do it?

857
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 7: What's the secret? Because there are other guys that steal

858
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 7: a lot of bases in the miners you play with them,

859
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 7: But I mean to be as perfect as can be

860
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 7: for most of the season with that, What puts it

861
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 7: in your mind about when is the right time to

862
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 7: steal a base? Because you seem to be making the

863
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 7: right decisions, like every single time stealing thirty three, you

864
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 7: got a thirty four this year.

865
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, just being aggressive.

866
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 6: Like for me, its just being aggressive knowing when to

867
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 6: steal when not to steal. For me, it's pretty much

868
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 6: like Counts. What's the picture doing watching him while I'm

869
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 6: on deck, watching him when I'm in the dugout, just

870
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 6: keeping an eye on him and see what he does

871
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 6: that I can get a little ahead of him. Or

872
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 6: just the aggressiveness, like I said, just aggressiveness on the

873
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 6: basis over.

874
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 5: Here with the modelings that taught us that. And I

875
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 5: love running.

876
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 6: I just love the game position work and work and

877
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 6: score and help the team out and put runs on

878
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 6: the board. So if that means steal every bag I see,

879
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 6: then so be it.

880
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: Over the twenty twenty two season, Jose I was just

881
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: curious that.

882
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: By both Jupiter and Belloyd.

883
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: Who's the toughest picture that you've had to face, you know,

884
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 3: in both levels, just curious to see who you really

885
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: thought and where you face them.

886
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: We're like, Wow, he's going to be a start in

887
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: the big leagues, don't.

888
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 6: I don't really keep track on the pitches, but I'll

889
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 6: probably say when I got called up that series that

890
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 6: we versed in South Bend at home, their pitching is

891
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 6: pretty dominant.

892
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: I don't really know them.

893
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 6: They're pitches like that, but their whole bullpen is it's

894
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 6: pretty pretty nice. They got starters throwing one hundred it's

895
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 6: guys throwing ninety two sliders.

896
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 5: It's pretty it's it's pretty up there.

897
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 6: But I would have to say when they called me

898
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 6: up my first series in Beloit against the Cubs, Yeah, I.

899
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: Guess that sort of answers.

900
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: My next question was that when you do get called

901
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: up from low way to high age, do you feel

902
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: the total upgrade and talent that you're going up against

903
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: for sure?

904
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: For sure?

905
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, pitching wise, there is a difference. Uh, pitchers know

906
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 6: what they're doing, they know how how to pitch.

907
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 5: To you, what they're gonna do to you.

908
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 6: I feel like they have a plan, just like we

909
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 6: have a plan when we go up to the plate.

910
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 6: That's the only thing that I saw differently than than

911
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 6: in that I saw on Jupiter.

912
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 5: Jupiter, the lower levels, they're just going through the motions.

913
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 6: I feel like the pitches were more fastball pitchers, just

914
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 6: get it in there. Once I got caught up, it

915
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 6: was more like I'm coming after you. So that's the

916
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 6: that's the just that I had to That's the thing

917
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 6: that I had to adjust to when I did get

918
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 6: called up, like I need a I need to get

919
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 6: get it. So that was pretty much it. Yes, southvend

920
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 6: Like I said, they have really good pitching and and

921
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 6: when I did get called up for me, it was

922
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 6: the pitching that that stood out right well.

923
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 7: After you got called up, Jose, you were teammates with

924
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 7: Victor Mason Junior. He's out there in Arizona with you

925
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 7: and you got to play with him almost every single day.

926
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: What's what's your.

927
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 5: Scouting report on him?

928
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 7: What did you get to learn about him on and

929
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 7: off the field when you were with him the second

930
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 7: half of the season.

931
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 6: Great persion, It's like another brother of mine, mess I

932
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: on field, off the field, great patient, uh spectacular center field.

933
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 5: His defenses is for me, one of the best at

934
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 5: the plate.

935
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 6: Same thing just like his brother. His brother's defense is

936
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 6: is elite. Same thing with him. His bat is is

937
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 6: elite up there too. Just all around, just a great

938
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 6: player and great person to be around.

939
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 5: Too at the same time.

940
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 6: Just just blessed to play with people like that, just

941
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 6: that are all around, just good people.

942
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got a great nickname for himself, the Chosen One.

943
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 7: Do you have something like that for yourself? Or do

944
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 7: you think that's a little too cocky that he goes

945
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 7: that far with it?

946
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: Me, it's just Sally. I go buy Sally over here

947
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: with the Marlins.

948
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 6: But Messa the chosen One. He's he's always been. He's

949
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 6: always had that on him.

950
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 5: But no, I think it. I think it fits some good.

951
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 5: It fits it fits mess out. So that's for me.

952
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 5: It's it's whatever, but.

953
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: Right, And I guess the last question I have for you,

954
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: or maybe on the Sela has another one, is that

955
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: have the Solar Socks told you about how much playing

956
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: time you're gonna get in where they might play you

957
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 3: on the field.

958
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 5: Or the No, yeah, no, we haven't discussed any of

959
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 5: that yet. Today was off day practice, so it's pretty good.

960
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 6: But along as long as as like along with us

961
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 6: playing time and stuff like that, I haven't heard anything.

962
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 7: But yeah, for people that don't know, on the same

963
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 7: team with you, we got players from the Cubs, I think,

964
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 7: the Yankees, the Oakland Aay's, the Rays, so you probably

965
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 7: know some of those guys are ready. Is there anybody

966
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 7: there that you're excited to play for that you've already

967
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 7: gone to know a little bit that you think it's

968
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 7: going to help the team win a title, because you

969
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 7: guys are trying to repeat all the Marlins players that

970
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 7: went out there last year they won a title in

971
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 7: the Fall League. So do you think you have enough

972
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 7: talent over there to get it done again this fall?

973
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, for sure. We come out here. We're coming

974
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 6: out here to get that ring. We we come out

975
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 6: here to win. Give it at all. Play as a team,

976
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 6: get better, learn from each other.

977
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 5: And that's what I love about these guys. These guys.

978
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 6: We've seen some of these guys before. But yeah, just

979
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 6: we just gotta lock it in.

980
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just we were talking about your defenses.

981
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Obviously you can play second, third, short is a position

982
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: where you feel the most comfortable and obviously you're capable

983
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: of all three, but which one is home to you?

984
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 6: For me, it's always going to be shorts off for

985
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 6: me shorts up, so always going to be home.

986
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 5: But like I said before.

987
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 6: I can play anywhere, like, whever you need me, wherever

988
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 6: you think that we're gonna win, whatever you think the

989
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 6: chances are that we can be a winning team, I

990
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 6: will play. I will put me in center field. I

991
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 6: know I played center field over there in Venezuela for winnerball, right,

992
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 6: So it's different for me. But like I said, I'll

993
00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 6: play anyway, second, short, third, I'll give you my But

994
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 6: for me, it will always be shorts out home homes

995
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 6: that short.

996
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and being invited to the AFL is A is

997
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: a pretty prestige honor. Do you have a goal set

998
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 3: in mind for the twenty twenty three season, Yeah.

999
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 6: Come back stronger, come back more mature to come back

1000
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 6: with all the stuff I'm learning now, just keep on

1001
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 6: taking into the off season, because the off season isn't

1002
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 6: really an off season, right, more grinding for me, probably

1003
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 6: the off season. I work harder during the off season

1004
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 6: than I do during the regular season. And I know

1005
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 6: a lot of guys are like that, but not just

1006
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 6: grind this offseason, get bigger, stronger like every other year,

1007
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 6: and yeah, just get ready.

1008
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 5: For twenty three.

1009
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: Awesome, Eli, Unless you have anything else, I think.

1010
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 5: That let's close it out there with Salas.

1011
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: Appreciate your time.

1012
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 7: A minor league season over Marlin's major league season about

1013
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 7: to end, so it's gonna be all eyes on you, man.

1014
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 7: We're gonna be covering you closely fall in the day

1015
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 7: to day, see how you're doing out there, and you

1016
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 7: and the six other Marlins players out in the desert.

1017
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 7: So best of luck to you. Such a bright future ahead, man,

1018
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 7: only nineteen years old, and we think you're gonna do

1019
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 7: great in the Fall League.

1020
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 5: So thanks again, thank you guys for having me. I

1021
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 5: appreciate it.

1022
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: We may have a guest on next time. We'll see,

1023
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: we'll see what happened. We aren't sure. I think this

1024
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: is the last show of the season, so thank you

1025
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: for riding along, and we're excited for the offseason. We'll

1026
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: definitely have some stuff up our minds. We definitely want

1027
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: to do that draft we did last season where I

1028
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: took Joe Mack in the third round, so I'll definitely

1029
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: not be doing that again this summer around, so we'll

1030
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: see guys on the next one. From Isaac, myself, Eli

1031
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: in the production scene. We'll see you guys all in

1032
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: two weeks. Peace out and go fish.

1033
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: We gotta end it off right