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Speaker 1: Here we are everybody. It's Friday. That means it's time

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Speaker 1: with the Players Lounge. I'm Knew, we scrugs, a long

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Speaker 1: time Cowboys reporter, joined by my boys, David Craig, Very Church,

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Speaker 1: two former Dallas Cowboys. Taft these guys, How are we

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Speaker 1: doing on a Friday? Doing great? Doing great on this

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I just you know, I hope you were

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Speaker 1: sending Shot con a Christmas card every year? Okay you,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying Shot con Man he takes a

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Speaker 1: from Barry Church in the Church family. A good exactly,

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys news. The Cowboys announced three hirings um this week,

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Speaker 1: and let's start with Joe Junior, a guy we've already

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Speaker 1: spoken about. Secondary coach, passing game coordinator. He was in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta with Dan quinn um. He's also coach with Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: He was a part of the Packers Super Bowl winning

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Speaker 1: and his first three years with the Packers, uh, they

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Speaker 1: let the NFL interceptions twice. He's a fourteen year veteran.

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Speaker 1: So now that that's official, you've got a guy on

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Speaker 1: he's from England by the way, he's in England in English.

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Speaker 1: Was he's a brit and he was on the team

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Speaker 1: quality control guy. He was. He was around our team

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Speaker 1: I think d Mac, you hit it right on the head. Man.

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Speaker 1: buying it. I'm not buying it. The guys got the resume,

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, albeit a very good year, but

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Speaker 1: he spent one years a coordinator National Football League. I

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Speaker 1: believe he's got four total years of experience in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And these are guys who haven't even played in the league. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Sirianni and played the league. Brandon Stanley in the Rams,

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Speaker 1: he didn't play in the league. These dudes are under

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Speaker 1: forty years old. Here's Eric Binny, a guy who played

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, has coached in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League for years, has been right there with ad Reid.

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Speaker 1: And now we say, yeah, man, you ain't called and

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Speaker 1: you ain't good enough. And when you ask yourself what's

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Speaker 1: the difference, the difference is not in the resume. He's

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Speaker 1: got a better resume. The difference we see out and

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Speaker 1: out screams you, is the color of his skin. You

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Speaker 1: want to tell me, I'm wrong. Go ahead, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: but please tell me what the differences are when we

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Speaker 1: watch people with listen, small resumes get jobs over people

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Speaker 1: with real qualifications. I'm I'm definitely not gonna tell you wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right, and I'm gonna throw this

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Speaker 1: shot out there. If you want to talk about nine

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Speaker 1: interviewing Will, I would love to see the interview for

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Speaker 1: the guy who just got hired for the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 1: because it came out talking about bite kneecaps and doing

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Speaker 1: all type of crazy stuff. Did he says? Is this

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Speaker 1: the type of stuff that he said? Because this will happen, right,

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Speaker 1: so you got you got Sele We went to the

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Speaker 1: Jets and he says, all gas, no brakes. That is perfect,

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Speaker 1: especially for what we're doing now right that that sounds

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Speaker 1: like it's something that can work as a monster for

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Speaker 1: your team. When you talk about, man and we get

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Speaker 1: kicked down on the way up, we're gonna start bitingknee

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Speaker 1: caps or ankles. That that just doesn't make sense. But

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Speaker 1: I know that's not the first time he said it,

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Speaker 1: and I know that's like the way that he talks

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Speaker 1: when he's doing these interviews and he's trying to show

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Speaker 1: how hype he can get. And you're telling me that

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Speaker 1: that's an interview that can get you hired. And I've

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Speaker 1: seen the enemy duer interview when he was talking about

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Speaker 1: not being hired and him focusing on what he can

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Speaker 1: do now for the Kansas City Chiefs and winning the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He looked a hundred times better than the

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Speaker 1: dude from Detroit as far as the interview. And so

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Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, don't make sense

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Speaker 1: to me either. The guy from Detroit, I mean he

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Speaker 1: sounded like a professional wrestler. I mean, like you said

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Speaker 1: the Mac, he was out there talking about when we

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Speaker 1: get up, we're taking knee caps with us, we're giving

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Speaker 1: ankle holes. I'm like, come on, man, you're you gotta

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Speaker 1: be a professional here. You're getting inducted as as a

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Detroit Lions. Are you talking about

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Speaker 1: bitingnes and getting knocked out? Man? Like mccrai said, this

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Speaker 1: is all perplexing to me. I'm not I don't understand

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Speaker 1: why the enemy who, like the people say, and he

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Speaker 1: does an interview, well, but I mean he wins, he wins,

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Speaker 1: and he's in a culture where you have he's cultivated

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Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks, one of the starts of

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks we've ever seen in Patrick Mahomes. So

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Speaker 1: for me, I, you know, like I said, it's a

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Speaker 1: head scratcher, but hopefully he gets his opportunity soon before

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Speaker 1: we go away, before before we go answer this question

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Speaker 1: for me, what because I'm having a hard time understanding

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Speaker 1: what it means and you probably know more about it

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Speaker 1: than I do. When when when they say not they

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Speaker 1: don't interview will, do you have any idea of what

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Speaker 1: they mean, like they not talk to the to the

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Speaker 1: owner and GM right, or they're not able to piece

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Speaker 1: together full sentences, like what do they mean when they

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Speaker 1: say they're not interviewing Will? This is a lie, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's all it is. Since this is the lie to

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Speaker 1: get you out of saying, well, we would hire the

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Speaker 1: guy we didn't like it. So the easiest lie I

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Speaker 1: can tell you, which is something you can't dispute, is

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Speaker 1: to say, oh, he didn't interview well, and you're not

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Speaker 1: going to say exactly what it was wrong because you're

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Speaker 1: gonna pret the guy. But that's the easy lie. That's

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Speaker 1: a comfortable lie you can get out of saying that

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Speaker 1: somebody wasn't who you were going to hire, and you

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Speaker 1: just trying to take the heat off yourself, and you're

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Speaker 1: also trying to quote unquote protect the person. So this,

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Speaker 1: once again, this is the lie. They said that about

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Speaker 1: Tony Dungee. This is the lie. And one of the

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Speaker 1: things about Tony Dungee I laughed at too when he

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Speaker 1: was trying to get head coaching jobs. There were people saying, well,

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Speaker 1: there's not enough emotion coming from Tony Dungee that we

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Speaker 1: think a head coach should have. And here's why I

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Speaker 1: always say, I thought that was absolutely hilariously and funny.

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Speaker 1: Who did Tony Dungee play for win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: For Chuck Nole? Chuck Nole was not a raw ra guy.

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Speaker 1: Tom Landry was not a raw Rai guy. So it's

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how are the goal posts move, what

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Speaker 1: are we using against the candidate, and what are we

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Speaker 1: using to prop one guy up? So if we say

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Speaker 1: one guy doesn't interview, well, then we're gonna say that, well,

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Speaker 1: this one particular guy has energy, and this one particular

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Speaker 1: guy has bright, innovative things. So um, these are the

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Speaker 1: code words that people use um to say, we're not

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Speaker 1: going to hire a guy is oh he didn't interview. Well,

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Speaker 1: so there you go. That's that's how it works here.

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell did cut a WrestleMania promo. Okay, you know, man,

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Speaker 1: Randy Savage would have been very proud of what Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 1: But but let me say this, by the way, Rustlemania

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Speaker 1: about that. Uh. I covered Dan when he was here,

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Speaker 1: UH as a tight end for Bill Parcels and also

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Speaker 1: helped Jason Witten as a rookie, UH learn the ropes

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. I don't question Dan's energy

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Speaker 1: or desire to be good. Um that he's going to

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Speaker 1: push people, He's going to demand excellence. Dan is that

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Speaker 1: kind of guy. But obviously you guys played in the

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Speaker 1: league and you know, um that raw ross stuff doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: What works is do you have information? Can you make

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Speaker 1: guys get better? We see that with a guy like

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. You know you're gonna can you teach me

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Speaker 1: and coach me and get me better, get me a

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Speaker 1: decided advantage on Sundays. That's what has to come out there.

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Speaker 1: But you know I'm rooting for Dan said I like Dan,

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Speaker 1: but look at the end of the day, here's the

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Speaker 1: guy who's a tight ends coach in New Orleans who

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Speaker 1: didn't call the plays. We all know Sean calls the plays.

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Speaker 1: So that's where, once again, you say to yourself, how

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Speaker 1: is that a guy who's a tight ends coach and

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell can get a job. How can a guy

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Speaker 1: who's a special team's coach and Joe Judge get a job.

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Speaker 1: But you sit up here and you look at the

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Speaker 1: for coaches. Hey, let's take a break right here. We

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Speaker 1: just how does he handle the transition of coaching guys

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Speaker 1: from tight end coach to head coach or special team's coach.

849
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: You don't see that. Okay. Now, Robert sala Arab American

850
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: who just got the job of the Jets, he was

851
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. Okay, Todd Bowles when he got the

852
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: job with the Jets, he was a coordinator. Anthony Lynn,

853
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: you know the same thing. He was a coordinator before

854
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: he got the Chargers job. So when you don't have

855
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: coordinators and you're of color, it's hard to get a job.

856
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin now has an offensive coordinator's job, and there

857
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: are guys looking at him saying, Mike t what are

858
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: you going to do? And that's within his own community

859
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: black assistant coaches looking at the Steelers head coach and

860
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: wondering is he caring about trying to help other people

861
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: in the same fashion in which he got help to

862
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: get the job with the Pittsburgh's teams. Danny your thoughts, Yeah,

863
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hate on Mike Tomlin. I don't know

864
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: who was who was available for these coordinator jobs. I

865
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: would have to do a little bit more research on it.

866
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: One thing I do know about Mike Tomlin is as

867
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: far as looking out for the black players, he is

868
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: the guy I've seen him connect with with guys and

869
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: do podcasts and mentor a lot of the young black

870
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: players to make sure that they're they're doing the right things,

871
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: giving them second chances, giving them third chances. I e.

872
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, who he's gonna take under his wing, who

873
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: I thought who should never get another job for what

874
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: he did to around a very his staff. So you know,

875
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, as far as that goes, I know he's

876
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: looking out for for the young black athletes. Um as

877
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: far as him hiring offensive and defensive coordinators of color,

878
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: I think that's something that I would have to do

879
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more research on. But you know, I'm

880
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna throw him under the bus because

881
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: I think he has he has earned the right for

882
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: us to give him a benefit of the doubts. So

883
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: I think he'll make something work, and if it hasn't,

884
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have some type of reason for it. Yeah,

885
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him the benefit as well. Like mccrai said,

886
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: he is the players coach. I mean, he's the ultimate

887
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: players coach, even if you're on other teams. I went

888
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: against him twice in the playoffs and he has done

889
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: nothing but the most respect for any player out there.

890
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: So I gotta give him on that one. But overall,

891
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he is in a position of power to

892
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: go ahead and elevate you know, some some coaches of

893
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: color into the right spots, and he has not done

894
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: that yet. So, like mccraiy said, I got to do

895
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: a little bit more research on this one. I gotta

896
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: make sure before I go out there on a tangent

897
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: that you know, he hasn't you know, interviewed guys, or

898
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: he hasn't done this and that in the third So

899
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a little bit more research on it.

900
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: But I'm willing to give him the benefit of the

901
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: doubt because he's always seemed to be a players coach,

902
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the African American community. And

903
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger probably has some say so in those offensive

904
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: coordinated jobs too, so he's probably he didn't want USA. Nah,

905
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: we need this guy, nah, and Nat natm this is

906
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: not the guy we need. I told you I need

907
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: this guy right here. I really put a past Big

908
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: Ben on that one. Well, Big then was obviously a

909
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: guy who was instrumentally running off Todd Haley. And you

910
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: know what, they have not been able to find playoffs

911
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: success in Pittsburgh a wild now. In fact, since they

912
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: lost that championship Super Bowl super Bowl forty five to

913
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and the Packers, it's been it's been playoff

914
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: disappointments for the Steelers year in and year out. As

915
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: far as Ben Roethlisberger's, hey, look, I think they need

916
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: to go ahead and move on. He's due forty one

917
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: million dollars next year. Who dollars? And if anything with

918
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: his arm, yes, and if you saw his arm to me,

919
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: his arm was looking just like Philip Rivers arm was,

920
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: and like Drew Brees's arm. They do. They ain't got

921
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: no fastball in it no more. Okay, people are able

922
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: to hit that thing. He's not that guy. And if

923
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: you're going to have a guy who can't throw it

924
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: down the field like he used to, you better have

925
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: a running game. And they don't have a running game.

926
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steels, in my opinion, would be wise to

927
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: move on from Big because look, once it goes, it's

928
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: hard to get back. I mean, it was sad watching

929
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: Drew Brees against Tampa back because Top Bowls was just like, dude,

930
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: you're not about to beat us deep, so we're just

931
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna press your receivers. We're gonna make it hard for you.

932
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: And there was nothing he could do. Sean Payton, if anything,

933
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: in that football game, should have pulled James Winston actually

934
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: saw James. I mean you should have put in James

935
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: Winson because you saw James hit that big touchdown pass.

936
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: It was clear James could throw the ball down the field.

937
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: And maybe it was his sentiment and trying to say,

938
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: I don't want I want Drew Brees to go out

939
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: on top. I want to hurt his feelings. But Drew

940
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: Brees was not effective in that football game. You guys

941
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: are dbs. You saw that dude had nothing for them.

942
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: They were just sitting back there on these rounds. Hold on,

943
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeast Payton. Sean Payton almost pulled a killing more in

944
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: that game, though. Man, I think we should have saw

945
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: a little bit more of Alvi Kamar. And I'm gonna

946
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: tell you this, Michael Thomas was getting clamped down. We

947
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: could blame a lot of it on Drew mister Sam,

948
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, mister slamp. He was not open. He was

949
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: not I do not care what no. If you watch

950
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: them and how they played him, they played those short routes,

951
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: they jumped them, they got they got their hands on

952
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: them on the line of scrimmage, and they messed up

953
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: to timing. And that is what Drew Brees is best at, man,

954
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: those timming routes to him and Michael Thomas. And once

955
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: they took that away and you didn't get Camar the ball,

956
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: they had no shot at it. So Drew Brees didn't

957
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: look like the Drew Brees that we know. But I'm

958
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: putting some of that on Sean Payton and of course

959
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: number one, one three because he was getting clamped down,

960
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm not even gonna get him. My

961
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: man's nineteen and I love I love him Ark Coop.

962
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get the ball. Ball. Leave Cooper

963
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: up out of the ball, give him the ball, man,

964
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: that's all. I just want him to get the ball

965
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: more like I wanted Camaro to get the ball more

966
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: in this playoff game. But like I said, Tod Bows

967
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: went out there and his defensive game plan was amazing.

968
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: You know that he wasn't gonna let him be theim

969
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: for the third time this season. They didn't let that happen.

970
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 1: And oh knew it, Devin White. Did you see Devin

971
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: White out there? That LSU product, the product of LSU.

972
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, he changed the entire game. And

973
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: you remember he missed the previous playoff game and they

974
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: looked a little different. But when he came back, he

975
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: was an instant game changer for the Twa Bay Bucks

976
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: against the New Orleans Saints. Look, the Bucks, the Bucks

977
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: have The Bucks have something right now. You know they're there.

978
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: You got a quarterback which the guys believe in, and

979
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: you got a defense right now in top top Bulls

980
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: is putting it on folks right now. So um, you know,

981
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: props to them. And for New Orleans. It's interesting because

982
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 1: certain coaches get get a lot of blame for playoff failures,

983
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: and certain coaches, you know, get get passes. And here's

984
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: another playoff game in which the Saints are favored at

985
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: home and they don't get the job done. They didn't

986
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: get it done against Tampa Bay and then the year before,

987
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: remember Kirk Cousins in Minnesota, they came into that building

988
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: and won a game. And then the year before that,

989
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: it was a bad call by the rest, but they

990
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: ended up losing the NFC Championship game at home to

991
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: the Rams. And then the year before that they had

992
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: that Minneapolis miracle and with Steps called it in, it

993
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: ran in the end zone. I mean, you you guys

994
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: have played in this league and you know it's hard

995
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: to get in this position, but they've been able to

996
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: get in this position. And you talk about four straight

997
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: years of some really really bad heartbreaks, but for some reason,

998
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, the head coach has has been able to

999
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: get a pass on these um and this looks like

1000
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be the end of this run

1001
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: for the New Orleans Saints. I don't see Drew Brees

1002
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: coming back. They've got serious cap issues. It looks like

1003
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: twenty one is going to be a rebuilding year for

1004
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: that organization. Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, they got

1005
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: they're losing more to Breeze. They got. You know that

1006
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: that free safety Marcus Williams back there. He's probably gonna

1007
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: be a high, high free agent commodity coming out there.

1008
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna cost them allowed to keep him. They mean

1009
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: Jack Rabbit on the outside. I mean they got some pieces,

1010
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: and you write new I think they're gonna be a

1011
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: rebuilding year because it's gonna be tough. I don't see them,

1012
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, especially with Tom Brady and that division next year.

1013
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't see New Orleans doing much. Man, Hey, let

1014
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: me tell you, so you talk about Jack Rabber. You

1015
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: see how they schemed up Jack Rabbit their games they did.

1016
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: You got to pick six the first time they played,

1017
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: and then they ran the exact same route with the

1018
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: exact same person hitting with a double move and they

1019
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: got my man down there for like a forty yard game. Man,

1020
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: they schemed up a man Jack Rabbit. Yeah. But I

1021
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: think the Saints they are going to be in some

1022
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: kind of a rebuilding mode. But I'm not gonna couch

1023
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: Sean Payton now for being able to compete in the

1024
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: NFC South. I think I think they'll still be a competitor.

1025
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: They just won't look the same as they've looked in

1026
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: previous years, which could be a good thing because they've

1027
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: been good in the regular season and not so good

1028
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. So maybe they're flipping around and barely

1029
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: barely get into the playoffs and have a really good

1030
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: playoff run. All right, um, let's let's dive here into

1031
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: some some playoff games here. Last week, Church, you were

1032
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: owing four. You pick the Rams to win twenty four seventeen.

1033
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: That didn't happen. You picked ball some More to beat

1034
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo twenty eight twenty four, that didn't happen. You picked

1035
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: Cleveland the upset Kansas City twenty four twenty one, and

1036
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: you picked the Saints to beat Tampa Bay thirty one twice.

1037
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: That is over four. Man, it's the Alta two. I'm

1038
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: here in Colorado, the Alta twoe. Man messes with you. Man,

1039
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: you talk about horrible, You talk about I was playoff

1040
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: pe out here. I'm out here looking terrible. Man. This

1041
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: is Meanwhile, Meanwhile, McCray was unbeaten. He picked Green Bay, Buffalo,

1042
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and Tampa Bay to win. He was four

1043
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: and oh no, no, no, no, no no no, I'm

1044
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: not gonna take that. I'm not gonna take that. New Year.

1045
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: I think you switched up me and Churches and uh picks.

1046
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: I think Church pick Tampa to win because I picked

1047
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: the one right, I pick thirty one thirty one twenty eight.

1048
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: So I got that as an X. This ain't the

1049
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: first time. This ain't the first time I've been swindled. No,

1050
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: you're trying to get the fifth out of here, getting

1051
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: me oh and four? I wanted three. Mutter you was, yeah,

1052
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: used one in three, use one in three albums, three

1053
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: out of four. I'm eight. I'm eight. I'm eight out

1054
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: of eleven over the entire playoffs. So your record is horrible.

1055
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: It's bad. It's bad. But I ain't go I ain't

1056
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: go out like the Detroit Lions and sixteen and I

1057
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: got one victory in there, got one. I got out.

1058
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to Marionelli. I was I was two and oh.

1059
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: So all right, we've got two games, two and old.

1060
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: We got two games? How you was two and old?

1061
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: I said, I was two and two. Now you just

1062
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: said two and over, bro, he definitely said I was

1063
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: two and two and try. I'm sorry, it's right, there's

1064
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: two two and two. I had. I had Green Bay.

1065
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: I had Green Bay, who won, Baltimore who lost? Kansas City?

1066
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: Who won? In New Orleans? Who who? Who lost? I

1067
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: was two and two? So I was talking to so moving.

1068
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: So this week we got Tampa Bay at green Bay.

1069
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: Green Bay is a three and a half point favorite church.

1070
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: Who you got, man, Look, I'm gonna go ahead and

1071
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: go with Green Bay on this one. I think the

1072
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: only people that I used to playing in the coal

1073
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: for Tampa Bay or Tom Brady and Gradkowski. So those

1074
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: Florida boys going up there, I don't see him doing

1075
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: much success up there. So I'm gonna go Green Bay

1076
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: thirty one, Tampa Bay twenty one. Yeah, I got Green

1077
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: Bay thirty to twenty four. I think Aaron Rodgers had

1078
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: something to prove for the performance that he put on

1079
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: that first time that they played Bowls had his number

1080
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: and they didn't look very well. Um, So I'm gonna

1081
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: go with Green Bay thirty twenty four. Give me Tampa

1082
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: Bay to go on the road and win it twenty

1083
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: three to twenty. Tom Brady goes there, and you know,

1084
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: let me look, there's just something about this guy. You know,

1085
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: he spent so much, so much of his career playing

1086
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: in these title games. And I remember two years ago

1087
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: when they went to Kansas City. I didn't think there

1088
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: was any way they were gonna win the game, and

1089
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: Kansas City had him and then Frank Clark jumped outside

1090
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: and we all know the rest of the story here.

1091
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay wins this, they become the first team to

1092
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 1: ever play in their home stadium at the Super Bowl.

1093
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Tampa Bay to pull off

1094
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: a close upset twenty three twenty at Lambo Field. Better Javelle,

1095
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: you better keep JaVale Dean off of DeVante Adams. I

1096
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: know that you're gonna be in for a long game. Yeah,

1097
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna look ugly. But I mean, let

1098
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: me ask y'all question, y'all think if Aaron Rodgers loses

1099
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: this game, y'all think that hurts his legacy at all

1100
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: as one of the greatest ever? Do it? Okay? No

1101
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 1: about you? Mac first bat, first ballot, first ballot, Hall

1102
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: of Fame first ballot. Yeah, I think he'll be first ballot. Um.

1103
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: I think it'll do more for boosting up Tom Brady's

1104
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: legacy than than taken away from Aaron Rodgers. I think

1105
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: he's still gonna be be the guy. But for him

1106
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: to lose the first championship hosting home game, I think

1107
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: that that would really suck for him. But Aaron Rodgers

1108
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: still Aaron Rodgers no matter if he loses and wins

1109
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: this game. We can the eye test tells us everything

1110
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: we need to know about this guy. Ok. I just

1111
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: think Todd Bowles is gonna his defense is gonna be tough.

1112
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: With just just one receiver. You know you're gonna need

1113
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: you know, this is where had they taken to Jordan

1114
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: Jefferson in the draft instead of taking the quarterback love,

1115
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: then then I don't that had been something to see.

1116
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: But I just don't think one receiver is going to

1117
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: be able to go out here and take down this

1118
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: Tie Bowls defense. I just, oh, we saw what we saw,

1119
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: what they did to Michael Thomas last week, and so

1120
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm expecting Tampa Bay's defense to come defense travels expecting

1121
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: to be good. I think I listen for as much

1122
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: slack as they got about not drafting help for Aaron

1123
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: Rodgers in the first round last year. I think that

1124
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Receiving Corps is better than the New

1125
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: Orleans Receiving Corps. I think they have more weapons. I

1126
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: think Valdare Scantling and DeVante Adams. I think those guys

1127
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: have been making plays and they've earned the right to

1128
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: say that they are formidable receiving corps. This year. Not

1129
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams is the star guy. But these other guys

1130
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: have been making plays all seasons, so I'm not I

1131
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: don't want to take nothing away from them to say

1132
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: that they only got one receiver. The other guys can

1133
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: play ball as well. And I think they're gonna show

1134
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: up one because they're playing out there in the snow

1135
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: a lambo and you got a team from Florida coming

1136
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: up to the play, you know, up there and to

1137
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: snow and those fluris, and it's gonna be a little

1138
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: different from them. So they're gonna have to get that

1139
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: running game going. But Aaron Rodgers show last last week

1140
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: that they're prepared to play up there in Lambeaux. All right,

1141
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: it's on tape. That's the thing. We got it on

1142
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: Take now, how wrong or right I am? Next week,

1143
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo travels to Kansas City. Kansas City is at three

1144
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: point favorite. Patrick Mahomes has been a concussion protocol here Church.

1145
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: Where are you going? Man? I'm gonna go with my

1146
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: heart on this one simply because I just don't I

1147
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: don't particularly care for Kansas City or Patrick Mahomes Man.

1148
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: Nothing against him personally, I just I don't know, man,

1149
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: just is just how he steps on the field with

1150
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: his head off sideways like I'm just too do it

1151
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: for y'all. Let me let me go ahead and throw

1152
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: this no look pad, you know, Steph Curry. How how

1153
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: he's chewing on his mouth beast. I am hating. I

1154
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: am hating right now. I'm hating, and I admit it.

1155
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm hating it because it's nothing. Personally, I just don't

1156
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: I just you know, don't don't care for the team

1157
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: or him. But overall, I'm you know, it's the church

1158
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: and it's the hair's That's what it is. That's what

1159
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: it is. It's curly, is flowing. He got the little

1160
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: highlights on there. I mean, he had his head throws

1161
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: to the side when he gets on the field. Just

1162
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: a couple of things that, you know, just kind of

1163
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: just kind of poke holes at me. But overall, man,

1164
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: I hope Buffalo pools this one out. I hope they do.

1165
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: I hope Josh Allen steps up steffund did. I hope

1166
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: they go up there in Kansas City and they put

1167
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: a beat down on him. I don't know if it's

1168
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen for sure, but I'm hoping so so I'm

1169
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna go Buffalo twenty eight Kansas City twenty seven. Okay, Church, listen,

1170
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: we are on the same page this week, bro, because

1171
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: I got Buffalo thirty five Kansas City thirty one. I

1172
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: think that this is Buffalo's year. They they've been playing well,

1173
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: and they would have been even better if it wasn't

1174
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: for that Hill Murray pass that they gave up against

1175
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. I think that changed the season for him

1176
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: and helped them out. But they would have been even

1177
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: an even better team with that if they hadn't had

1178
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: that one loss. But I think that Josh Allen is

1179
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: playing outstanding cold easily Diggs is playing outstanding in their defense.

1180
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be able to do something

1181
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes and them. They not, let me tell

1182
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: you something, Kansas City is not going to be able

1183
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: to come out and play slow like they've been doing

1184
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: in previous playoff games and beat this Buffalo Bills team.

1185
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: So I think the Buffalo gets this win and they

1186
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl. Shout out to McDermott. All Right,

1187
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be the lone wolf this week. I'll

1188
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: be the lone wolf this week, and I'm going to

1189
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: assume Patrick Mahomes is playing in this football game, and

1190
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: I'll take them to win twenty seven to twenty four.

1191
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: My reason for the pick is, if you're gonna beat

1192
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City, you gotta have some type of running game.

1193
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: They have no running game. Nineteen carries in the last

1194
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: two playoff games for the Buffalo Bills running backs. And

1195
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: obviously we know they've got Josh Allen, and Josh Allen

1196
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: is a weapon in the running game. But I just

1197
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: think when we look at how do you beat Kansas City,

1198
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: you got to be able to run the football effectively,

1199
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: and that's not something Buffalo does. So that's where I'm

1200
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 1: gonna go with Kansas City to win it. I also

1201
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: think about the experience. This is a challenging experience here

1202
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: in Barrett. You've played in one of these ASC championship games.

1203
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: When you're a young team, you're coming into a game

1204
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: like this and you're going on the road. That's a challenge,

1205
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: and I think it would not be surprised to see

1206
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo come out here and get out to a lead

1207
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: in this football game, especially Patrick is feeling some effects

1208
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: from that concussion. But I just think in the end

1209
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: we'll just see Kansas City get it done, just like

1210
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: we saw last week against Cleveland, where Kansas City didn't

1211
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: have their best game. But you don't always have to

1212
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: play your best. You have to play your best football

1213
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: when you have to. And that's that's what the Kansas

1214
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: City Chiefs have done the last two years. I don't

1215
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: think we give them enough credit for the kind of

1216
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: run there on. This has been a fantastic run. Two

1217
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: year run, actually three year run of football to be

1218
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: back here, you know, a third ASC championship game. But

1219
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: this is a heck of a football team, and I

1220
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: just think they find a way to get it done

1221
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: on a big stage somewhere where they think the experience

1222
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: pays off on us with gentlemen, Hey, Cleveland should be

1223
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: ashamed of themselves. Cleveland should be How are you gonna

1224
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: let Chad Henney, Chad Henney come out here and bust

1225
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: you for a fourteen yard run? Man? And then on

1226
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: fourth and inches, you know, I don't even need my

1227
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: running back. I'm gonna go ahead do the sprint out bullet.

1228
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: How y'all let Chad Henny do that. Chad. He ain't

1229
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: stepped on the field since my days in Jacksonville maybe

1230
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: the preseason of twenty seventeen, and he's out there with

1231
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that one. I couldn't believe it. You see,

1232
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: you see the difference right Church the fourth and inches.

1233
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: So what player they run sprint out, they get their

1234
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: inches and they get out of the game. But what

1235
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: we run on fourth and inches? Oh, five six yard

1236
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: hitch hob that's the difference. You know who gotta and

1237
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: you know who got an interview for a head coaching

1238
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: job and who didn't kill it? Moore gotta for a

1239
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: head coaching job for calling that Eric Bing and me

1240
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: did not get a head coach and interview job. And

1241
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean did not get a head coaching job. Ain't

1242
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: that something? That is? That is that's crazy? Well he could,

1243
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,919
Speaker 1: he could, He could get the Houston job. So he's

1244
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: still in play for the Houston job. It's the only

1245
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: only team that has not filled the job. Atlanta went

1246
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: with Arthur Smith here to fill their job. Um we

1247
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: talked about slid with with the Jets, and the Chargers

1248
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: hired Brandon Staley and Urban Meyer to UH to Jacksonville.

1249
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell too up there to to UH. The Detroit

1250
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: Lions here, look, um, Barry, I'm going to take exception

1251
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: with you on this point about the Cleveland game. They

1252
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: should have never punted that football. I thought that they

1253
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: needed to go for it. That was on Kevin Stevanski,

1254
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: the head coach. You needed to go ahead and tell

1255
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and this offense, guys, we're not giving it

1256
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: back to them because we know what their offense is

1257
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: capable to. Even even if Mahomes isn't there, we got

1258
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: we know what that offense had. They've got weapons. So

1259
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep the football. What's the best part of

1260
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: our team, it's it's our ability to run this football.

1261
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna run it on these guys. We're gonna go

1262
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: for it here, gon keep these change movement. I thought

1263
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: that's what Kansas should say Cleveland should have done in

1264
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City is not pumped the ball and put it

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Speaker 1: on your offense and go ahead and win the game.

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Speaker 1: You got offensive head coach to me, that's what they

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01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: should have done. They didn't do it, and they lost

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Speaker 1: a football game. But I also go back to this, guys,

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Speaker 1: that's a young football team, young football team, first time

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Speaker 1: head coach. You know this is that process. This is

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Speaker 1: learning about it. So I'm telling you, man as a

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Speaker 1: guy who covered the previous Cleveland playoff win, okay, twenty

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Speaker 1: five years ago, when I had hair and a mustache,

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Speaker 1: all right, ninety four, I was there in nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland fans may have been disappointed in losing, but believe me,

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Speaker 1: they're happy with the season that they had. You know,

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Speaker 1: you get Cleveland's a place where coming in seconds. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they gave the Cleveland Indians a parade for losing the

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Speaker 1: World Series in nineteen ninety five. That town is different, Okay,

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Speaker 1: They're They're happy to take what they've got very and

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Speaker 1: and hopefully their GM Andrew Berry can get them some

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Speaker 1: more pieces and get Stefanski some more pieces. But I

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Speaker 1: like what they have built in Cleveland. They've built, um

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Speaker 1: what I think is a good foundation, kind of like

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Speaker 1: what we're watching in Buffalo where you're seeing some really

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Speaker 1: strong building blocks and what these what they're doing as organizations,

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Speaker 1: and I feel that's pretty positive. I'm hoping the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys can start to do that this offseason and free

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Speaker 1: agency and the draft is start to build some pieces,

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Speaker 1: give your coaching staff some of the pieces that they need.

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Speaker 1: Especially on defense. I know you guys don't want to

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01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: hear it, but Doug on it. First round. We need

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01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: to look in defense. It needs to be D line

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Speaker 1: or their defensive backfield. And I'm leaning more and more

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Speaker 1: towards trading out of that ten spot and trying to

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Speaker 1: get some help on that D line. Fellas, that's just me. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you're right about I'm with you on that one. All defense,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. And real quick before

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Speaker 1: we before we cut out, before we cut out, man,

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Speaker 1: huge shout out to Miles Austin. Man, he just he

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Speaker 1: got the wide receiver coaching job over with the Jets

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Speaker 1: under Robert Salo out there, so, I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: he's been he's been grinding to get that, to get

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Speaker 1: a gig as a wide receiver coach for a long time.

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Speaker 1: So Hugh shout out to Miles Austin. Hopefully he can

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Speaker 1: turn that Jets organization around. Absolutely. Well. You talk about

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Speaker 1: a guy with substance, Miles Austin has a lot of substance.

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Speaker 1: You look at his career coming from Mamouth and what

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Speaker 1: he did in the National Football League and a guy

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Speaker 1: who went and grinding. Um, I don't think we talk

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Speaker 1: enough about guys who've played in the league who you know,

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Speaker 1: he had a Pro Bowl career and humbled himself enough

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Speaker 1: to say I will go and grind, and that's what

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Speaker 1: he did, and it's good to see him rewarded. And

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Speaker 1: Miles Austin is definitely a guy I think when when

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Speaker 1: other receivers look at him in that receiver room, like

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Speaker 1: a MEM's kid from from Baylor who's over there, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be able to look and see, hey man,

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Speaker 1: there's a guy who's about substance, and I can believe

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Speaker 1: what he says because he knows how to teach, he

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Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, and he did it in this league.

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Speaker 1: So good for Miles Austin to be able to to

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Speaker 1: move on and laying that job with the Jets, and

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01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: hopefully the Jets can turn it around. I hope they

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Speaker 1: keep Sam Donald. I don't think that Sam Donald is

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Speaker 1: the problem. I think you're sitting there at number two.

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Speaker 1: Trade out of that number two pick, try and get

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01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: some get some help around Sam Donald and an actual leader.

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Speaker 1: I thought Adam Gates was a terrible head coach, that

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Speaker 1: I was a terrible offensive coordinator, so I would not

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Speaker 1: give up on Sam Donald. I don't think he was

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Speaker 1: a problem. I think it was so much bad around him.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully the Jets are smart enough to realize it.

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Speaker 1: They need so much help and trade that number two

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Speaker 1: picks that somebody who wants a quarterback and be pretty

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Speaker 1: valuable here. We got a lot to talk about here

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Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks, So we'll do this

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Speaker 1: every Friday, Players Lounge. I'm sure I'll be owing two

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Speaker 1: and Danny and Church will be right and they'll be

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Speaker 1: able to give me a whole lot of my playoff

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Speaker 1: picks coming into next week. Hey fella, always fun, good

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