1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: your host Mark Kenyan. Today in the show, we're here 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: for rut Fresh Radio, in which we're getting updates from 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: hunters all across the country on the latest deer activity, 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: current conditions, and the tactics that can work for you. 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Right now, all right, welcome to another episode of the 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Wired Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X and UH. 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: It's a rout Fresh radio day. We are still on 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: it getting updates from all across the country on what's 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: happening in the white Tail woods. And at this time 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: of the year, it's not really you know, rut related, 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: it's going to be more are so weather related, It's 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: going to be more so what's the food source, deer 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: feeding on different things like that, because we're we're into 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: their late season. This is this is that time of 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: year where if you've got certain things in your favor, 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: you could be in for some great hunts. If you 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: don't have those things in your favor, it might be 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: really rough. Um, something that's nice to have in your 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: favor is to have some friends that have got a 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: primo property that they invite you to go hunt and 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: and and chase and explore big bucks on and Spencer. 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: I here, that's what you have been up to recently? 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: Have you been putting together a beautiful case study for 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: us and how to kill a big, old, mega giant 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: buck in December? Ah? Man? After this last week, Um, 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: it seems pretty simple. So I just got home from Kansas. UM. 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I was haunting with our friends Nate and Thomas Crick 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: from Identical Jaw. You've heard them on rut Fresh radio before, 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: maybe even on the regular podcast. I don't know if 33 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: they have been on an episode or not, Mark Um, 34 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: but they they bought um eighty acres in Kansas and 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: decided they were going to turn into a deer mecca. 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of anybody doing anything like that? Mark? 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, I've heard someone trying to do it in 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: a slightly less interesting state than Kansas. Um. They did, 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: all right, but maybe not as big of bucks as 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: the Kansas eighty. Sure yep, So those guys might be 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: something that rhymes with back forth it that's right, that's right. 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: So those guys invited me down to come and hunt 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: their Kansas ad property this fall. And so I went 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: down there for gone season, and now I came home 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: with my biggest buck of the year. You know, from 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: a tactics standpoint, we knew that there was going to 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: be good movement here. These guys have had this property 48 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: for a few years, and they were telling me that 49 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: last December and last January, their trail cameras had big 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: bucks um like damn near every day in December and January. 51 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: And it's for one big reason. They had the best food. 52 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: While everyone else um had picked corn and picked soybeans, 53 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: these guys had standing soybeans, they had clover, and they 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: had brassicas, and the deer really wanted to be there. 55 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Um And and their trail cameras almost function as many 56 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: people's do doing the row when new new bucks are 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: showing up, and you're like learning about these bucks that 58 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: are in the neighborhood and they're just like passing through 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: the property. Well, for them, that happens right now because 60 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: they have the best food. Um And and that's how 61 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: we ended up killing this deer. We killed him on 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: the fifth night, and we'd hunted every day in morning 63 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: and evening, and after the second morning, we had kind 64 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: of decided like, we probably shouldn't even be in here 65 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: in the morning. This property just doesn't set up well 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: to kill a buck in the morning. December morning hunts 67 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: are already hard enough the way it is, even when 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: you have like a manicured property for white tails, it's 69 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: still really hard to do. So after that second morning, 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: we're like, we're just going to do more harm and 71 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: good if we're in here, So we're gonna leave it 72 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: alone in the mornings. And then I went hunted some 73 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: public ground nearby um. But each evening the deer did 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: what we wanted them to. They showed up to this 75 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: beans and brassicas plot. They were looking for what was 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: the best food in the area, and we were waiting 77 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: their form. We knew logically that if we were there 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: every single night, at some point the mature buck was 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: going to slip up and show up in daylight. And 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: that's what happened. How what kind of like quantity of 81 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: food are we talking like? So something that people often 82 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: ask is is how much good food d you need 83 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: to actually draw deer in the way that these guys 84 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: were able to? Are we talking him half acre food 85 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: plot or is this twenty acres of food? So this, 86 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: if you look at aerial, it looks pretty insignificant because 87 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: you're surrounded by thousands and thousands of acres of egg land. 88 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: But when all that egg land is suddenly picked over, um, 89 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: and there's not much around. All the deer came to 90 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: this property and they had three different plots. Two of 91 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: them were pretty small, like less than a half acre, 92 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: and the one that we ended up hunting was three 93 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: and a half acres. That was all it took to 94 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: like draw in all these deer from all over this neighborhood. 95 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: And when you say all these deer, I mean, are 96 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: you seeing five deer and night? Are you seeing fifteen 97 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: deer and night? What kind of quantity? Yeah, five to fifteen. 98 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: They had said that their deer density is kind of low. 99 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Right there. They had some of the q d m 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: A s q d m A guys come out and 101 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: walk their property and looked at their trail cameras and 102 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: sort of assess the deal. And they had told him 103 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: that they were shocked by um, the lack of deer 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: that were kind of in the area. Now, this property 105 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: used to be a cattle property. Deer kind of have 106 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: right like a shared memory of an area, And so 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: there could be five and a half six and a 108 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: half yield bucks walking around that have never known this 109 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: property as anything other than a cattle property. So while 110 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: this December, you know, we were only seeing five fifteen 111 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: deer a night out there, I could see in five 112 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: years for these guys that it's double that number, just 113 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: because more and more dear are going to know about 114 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: this and they're going to be there for him. Yeah. 115 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: Another question I had for you, and it's related to 116 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: that whole December morning thing. You know, we've talked about 117 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: this in past episodes in past years, UM, but a 118 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: lot of people wonder like should I be hunting the 119 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: mornings at this time of the year. Um. In this case, 120 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: you said that it was just you're you're maybe doing 121 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: more harm than good. Can you elaborate on why this 122 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: spot was not setting up well for a late season 123 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: morning hunt. I'm I'm not even sure like what a 124 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: good property sets up at sets up as as a 125 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: late season morning hunt. I think ideally, if you wanted 126 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: to have a good late season morning set, you would 127 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: need some sort of distance between where they're betting and 128 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: where their food is. Um. So if I were to 129 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: think about um, like creating a property, you would be 130 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: some food like they had, which is being Subraska's, and 131 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: then maybe like some crp between that food and timber 132 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: um where they have to kind of pass through every 133 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: single morning. Now, this property didn't have that. It was 134 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: straight timber right to the food, and so deer would 135 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: pop out and they would be on top of you, 136 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: and so it was just like such a tiny window 137 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: where the deer would be visible before they'd be going 138 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: off to bed. Even when you have like a great 139 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: property like this, there's just very few situations, I think, 140 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: where you're gonna find like a really good set up 141 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: in December for white tails. Yeah, it's tough. There's there's 142 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of room for air at this 143 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: point in the season, especially in those mornings. Um. So 144 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad that persistence paid off for you. You You got 145 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: you gotta walk me through the details at least of 146 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: the last night. So you sat the same being plot 147 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: five nights in a row. Uh, tell me the exact setup, Like, 148 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: how were you set up in relation to where you 149 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: on the opposite side from the betting, where you on 150 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: the same side of the field as the betting. You know, 151 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: did these were the deer flooding out there the whole 152 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: right or was it the last two minutes of the 153 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: day kind of thing? What the hell did this buck 154 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: look like? Spencer? Paint me a picture? Okay, So before 155 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: I got down there, these guys were sending me some 156 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: trail camp pictures, like here's some of the bucks that 157 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: are around. But keep in mind that again, new deer 158 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: tend to show up for us. In December, one of 159 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: the last trail camp photo was they sent there, like, 160 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: this is one of our o G bucks. This is 161 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: one that's been around since we bought the property two 162 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: years ago. We would love if you were able to 163 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: kill this buck, but we've only seen him in person 164 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: one time ever, and that was in July of this year. 165 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: Other than that, they're very familiar with this deer. It's 166 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: maybe one of the deer they're most familiar with. Um 167 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: they had never really laid eyes on him in season, 168 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: so that was like the buck we hope to kill. 169 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: But um man, I wasn't gonna let like any four 170 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: and a half year old four by four walk by. 171 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: If they gave me an opportunity I was gonna kill 172 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: it on the last hunt, those four by fours. I've 173 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: got to know it's dangerous to walk past year because 174 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: that's like your kryptonite. Man. Yeah, I I don't. I'm 175 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: gonna need to kill a hell of a lot more 176 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: of him before I see you on and I'm like, no, 177 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna shoot it. Uh. And that wasn't the 178 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: case in Kansas. If one slipped up in front of me, 179 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: I was gonna kill him. So so you did you 180 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: end up seeing some bucks like that? Though? I feel 181 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: like on Instagram I saw that you were seeing some shooters, 182 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: but like too far out of range or not quite 183 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: a shot or what was the deal of that. So 184 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: Nate and Tom have only ever bow hunted deer. They 185 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: have never gun hunted. Um, so me rolling in with 186 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: a rifle was pretty foreign to them, and I had 187 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: explained to them. I was like, um, to kill a 188 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: deer with a gun, you basically just need to lay 189 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: eyes on them, like a rifle hunt ends where a 190 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: bow hunt begins. And so when we're overlooking this three 191 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: and a half acre plot, and if we set up 192 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of it, and even if there's a 193 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: marginal wind. We just need a buck to like get 194 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: his front hoof in the food plot and I can 195 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: kill him. It can just end right there. Um. So like, okay, 196 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: that's great. Um. So we we ended up setting up 197 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: with some marginal winds because I'm like, we we just 198 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: need him to like show up. And so the first night, 199 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: a buck just shows up and then he slips away 200 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: into the team, right, don't get a shot. The second night, 201 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: two more um what we identified as mature bucks that 202 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: I would have killed, did the same thing, just like 203 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: showed up, almost got that front hoof in the paw, 204 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: and then disappeared after like, you know, ten seconds. Because 205 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: we were kind of hunting these marginal winds, and we 206 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: threw up a ground blind in his spot that there 207 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: hadn't been. Um. So the first two evenings we just 208 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: had the deer two suspicious. The fifth night, though the 209 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: deer had finally been fine with the blind. They were 210 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: showing up earlier. Um, they would walk, you know, within 211 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: twenty yards of the blind. They just didn't care about it. 212 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: And so when I say we had first club or 213 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: when we had close calls, um, we did because we 214 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: laid eyes on them. But I was I was exaggerating 215 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: a bit. We need to lay eyes on them, plus 216 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: get like ten seconds um where I can where I 217 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: can get the scope on him. So it was close. 218 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: It was close. On the fifth night, we had only 219 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: seen but we'd seen nothing up until sunset, absolutely nothing. 220 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Ten minutes after sunset, one roll one small buck rolls 221 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: in um. And then we had sunset at five or 222 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: excuse me, shooting light ended at five. And and here's 223 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: what happened between five twenty and five twenty six. We 224 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: had eight more dear roll into the field and when 225 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: do do do do do do? Young buck? Um? And 226 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: then the buck that I ended up killing, which we 227 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: think is this five and a half year old buck. 228 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: He's a four by four but he's got all kinds 229 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: of jock. He has fifteen scoreable points. Um. He is 230 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: incredibly narrow. He only has um eleven and a half 231 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: inches for a with Yeah, this is just like a 232 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: straight up rack. And I think if you maybe like 233 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: caught a clinch to this buck in the timber at 234 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: some point he was just looking, you'd be like, oh, 235 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, a young buck or whatever. But because we 236 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: had so many trail camp pictures of him, um, and 237 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: we had a chance to see in broadside and stuff. Um, 238 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: we we knew what he was. And so he rolled 239 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: out into the beans with about two minutes of shooting 240 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: light left. And this was finally the buck that allowed 241 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: us to lay our eyes on him plus give us 242 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: that ten seconds. So he rolled out too the beans 243 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: about fifty yards from where we had the blind sent up, 244 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: and he was walking quartering away. He had someplace he 245 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: wanted to be and there was some specific spot in 246 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: nebrassicas of the beans that he wanted to get to 247 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: to feed. Um, and I shot him about seventy yards 248 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: and he ran to the edge of the food plot 249 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: and died. And that was my Kansas hunt. Yeah. Wow, 250 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: you kind of couldn't write it up much better. I 251 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: mean you had a little drama and then he had 252 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: to wait all the way to the fifth day, so 253 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: it felt like you worked for it. But then, uh, 254 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: the success finally arrived and he died in sight. I 255 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: mean that's a if. Ever, there wasn't editors story coming together. 256 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: That's that's it right there, Spencer, exactly. And and we 257 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: had kind of went into that last night. Um, and 258 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: this is something you're gonna here talked about in this 259 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: week's episode of Red Fresh Radio, the weather hasn't been great. 260 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: The weather forecast coming up doesn't look great. And what 261 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean by that is just like very monotonous um 262 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: above average temperatures. Where we were at in Kansas coming 263 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,239 Speaker 1: up here, it was gonna get into the low seventies 264 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: this week. On that Sunday though the high was like 265 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: forty three and the low was like twenty. We had 266 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: uh sort of a stronger north wind than what we've had. 267 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: We're like, this is is probably our best shot. Um, 268 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna be hunting for like the next 269 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: seven days if it doesn't happen tonight, but this is 270 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: probably the night and it all worked out. That's awesome, man, 271 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right now. I know market in the 272 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: past you've talked a lot about like what is the 273 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: ideal weather in December and how that can change things, 274 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: So like what should hunters be crossing their fingers for 275 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: when they open up their weather app right now? Well, 276 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's not terribly different than what you like 277 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: to see at the beginning of October or at the 278 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: end of October. Like I'd love to see a cold 279 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: front hitting just at this time of the year, you know, 280 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: instead of being you know, from seventy degrees to a 281 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: fifty degree day. You know, I'm looking for a thirty 282 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: five degree day dropping down to a ten degree day 283 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: or something. Obviously adjust that for wherever in the country 284 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: you live, but where we want the cold of the 285 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: temperatures the better. Uh. Usually higher bara metric pressures as 286 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: is the case you know all year, are indicative of 287 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: what you're getting after a big front like that pushes through. 288 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: So those days after the front hits where you've got 289 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: some bluebird skies, you've got that really cold weather. Finally, 290 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: maybe some snow fell. You know, the more snow the 291 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: better too. If you're in part of the country where 292 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: it gets snow, that's gonna be a really good thing 293 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: to get deer feeling like they have to feed. And 294 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: that's what you're counting on this time of year. As 295 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: you described, we need these deer to really feel the 296 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: russure to put the feedback on. Those are the nights 297 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: when more dear than usual move. It's those nights when 298 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: the big old buck that maybe doesn't want to move 299 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: in daylight a lot of the time, when he's gonna say, hey, 300 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: I gotta get going. Um, those are the days we're 301 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: gonna get that little extra push. So you know, I 302 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: don't I don't see anything like that coming down the 303 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: line for me in Michigan. But it's certainly what you 304 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: hope for. Yeah, And so with that said, you're gonna 305 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: hear a little bit of pessimism from our guests this week. 306 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: And who we talked to is Alex comp Stock from 307 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: White Til DNA in Minnesota, Hunter Forbes in Kentucky from 308 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: Southern White Tail Outfitters, and then in Oklahoma it's Clay 309 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: Forest from Stuart Ranch Outfitters, and then Bomartinic from East 310 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: meets West Hunt in Pennsylvania. So he just killed the 311 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: dandy out there, didn't he He did? That was um 312 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: like a megabuck for any part of the country. But 313 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: then when you consider there's probably not a corner bean 314 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: field um within hunterd miles of where he killed that 315 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: buck in the mountains of Pennsylvania, that's a giant. Yeah, 316 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome. Well, uh, I'm excited to hear more 317 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: about it him from him and all the rest of 318 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: the guys. So should we just get ready, you know, 319 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: hold on before we get to a Spencer, I have 320 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: to make a couple of plugs. Are you willing to 321 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: hear me out on that? Do your thing alright? Number 322 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: one back forty episodes are still coming out every Sunday. 323 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: Last weekend, my episode in which I kill my white 324 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: tail out on the back fort he came out, so 325 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: check that out. I got the drop time buck on 326 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: the ground. Finally, really cool hunt. Um. And then here 327 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: in a couple of days, our last episode of the 328 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: season will be coming out in which we brought the 329 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: Hunt giveaway winner and then a new hunter out to 330 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: the property, so you can find all that over at 331 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: the Meat Eater YouTube channel. Really proud of how those 332 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: things are turning out, so check them out. Hit a 333 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: like button on there if you could give us a 334 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: comment if you want, make sure you subscribe. Um. And 335 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: then finally, there's also, as is the case, a lot 336 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: of places all over the web these days, some cool 337 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: sales going on. Over at Mediator, We've got a twelve 338 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: Days of Christmas sale going on, So if you just 339 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: go to the mediator dot com or check off the 340 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: store over at the Mediator, you're gonna see a different 341 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: product coming up for sale every day. I saw something 342 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: like or more maybe off for some of these things. 343 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be T shirts, there's gonna be DVDs, 344 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: there's gonna be I don't know, all sorts of good 345 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: stuff from the mediatare folks. You can find it there. 346 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: So is there anything else? You know? If Spencer going 347 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: on that we should be telling people about. Well, if 348 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: you want to see this buck that we just talked 349 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: about that I killed in Kansas, you can held over 350 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: my Instagram at Spencer new Hearth or check out the 351 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: twins that I was hunting with. That's Nate and Thomas 352 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: Crick and their Instagram handle is at identical draw wonderful. Alright, Spencer, 353 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: I'd say take it away, talk to you next week. 354 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: Mark sounds good, alright. And joining us online first is 355 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Alex Comstock from Whitetail DNA in Minnesota. Now Alex in Minnesota. 356 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: What would you say the buck activity is ben lately 357 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, Yeah, I'd say 358 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: lately has probably been about us three. It's been really 359 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: slow here um and right now conditions aren't really help. 360 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: It's been abnormally warm and we have really no snow, 361 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: which up here in northern Minnesota. The time of year, 362 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: it's usually cold and cold and snow helps with a 363 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: hunting in. Right now, we don't have either, so it's 364 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: been pretty slow. I know, you just helped a buddy 365 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: recover a book a few days ago. Tell us about 366 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: that set up, why you guys were there and why 367 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: that buck was there. Yeah, So that was my good 368 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: buddy Garrett, who I do pretty much all of my 369 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: all my hunting with here in Minnesota. And that was 370 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: the pretty much the one evening here in the past 371 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: week or so that that we've even seen a buck. 372 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: And it just happened to work out. He actually had 373 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: gone gone into a spot UM and did a hanging 374 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: hunt that we had identified the week before, and we 375 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: had hung a trail camera. We had a number of 376 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: bucks using the area UM pretty much all at night. 377 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: And what this spot is just a little there's kind 378 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: of like a little crp field that these deer kind 379 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: of filter through in the evenings and the mornings headed 380 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: to to food. And we pretty much set up um 381 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: just about fourty or fifty yards off that in the 382 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: timber and Garrett was able to catch catch out this 383 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: buck coming through headed out that way right at last sight. 384 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean you shot it with I think two minutes 385 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: to spare or something. And uh, I was able to 386 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: put a new buck down that just showed up in 387 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: the area on camera about a week ago. Where do 388 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: you run most of your trail cameras in December? So 389 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: right now, if you know, if I can get them 390 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: over any type of food sources. And so for me 391 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: being up here in Minnesota, don't have um any agger 392 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: on hunt or anything like that. If you have that, 393 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: I would you recommend that. But I've got you know, 394 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: stuff in the timber such as buck thorn that a 395 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: lot of deer keenan on this time of year. Um. 396 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: But like I had said before, with the lack of 397 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: snow right now, deer really spread out in my area. 398 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: So it can be kind of challenging this time of 399 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: year when you're doing some in season scouting late season, 400 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: what sorts of things are you looking for? So pretty 401 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: much where I'm just trying to identify as where the 402 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: deer spending the most of their time feeding and then 403 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: where they're betting. So I am doing a lot of 404 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: in season scouting this time of year, um, especially if 405 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: conditions are ever changed. So for example, last year, in 406 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: the same area that I'm hunting now. We had two 407 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: ft of snow and so what the dealer were doing 408 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: last year is completely different than what they're doing now. 409 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: And so getting out there scouting, you know, we had 410 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: a little bit of snow where I can check to 411 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: see where, you know, trails that are being used frequently 412 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: are being used recently and doing a lot of moving around. 413 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: So I'm constantly out scouting right now, hanging new sets 414 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: and kind of do it not almost daily. If you 415 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: had some sort of weather event in Minnesota, would you 416 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: expect to see a shift in bedding and all I 417 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: would expect to see the shift in bedding if we 418 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: were to get a substantial amount of snow. So pretty 419 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: much Rye hunt is all on a essentially it's a 420 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: humongous hill and as there's no snow, deer can in 421 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: bed pretty much anywhere, and as we get more and 422 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: more snow and pushes them down this huge hill towards 423 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: the bottom, and that would definitely change things. Are you 424 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: doing any morning hunts in December? Um? I am not 425 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: doing a lot of morning hunts if it's if we're 426 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: going to get you know, right now, with it being 427 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: particularly warm, if we have any days where the low 428 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: is going to be pretty cold and it'll be a 429 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: lot warmer in the afternoon and it's gonna be in 430 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: the morning, I'll definitely try and get out for a 431 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: morning hunt. Is water focus for you at all in 432 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: northern Minnesota during late season? Um? Not really for me. 433 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: If there is usually at this time here, if there 434 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: is any type of water, it's all frozen over. Um. 435 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: And even where I'm at there's pretty much nothing for 436 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: water sources for me right now. Going forward then a 437 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think that bucket 438 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one 439 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: to ten in Minnesota? I hope it can go up 440 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: a few takes, hopefully about a five or six. The 441 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: weather is supposed to be warm here for the next 442 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: few days, and it's supposed to start dropping and getting 443 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: down into the to the twenties with lows in the 444 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: around TENLA in twelve degrees. So I'm hoping that there's 445 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: no snow in the forecast, and I'm hoping the colder 446 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: temperatures will will help that that buck activity here the 447 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: next week or so. All right, Alex, I hope you 448 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: get that weather you're looking for good luck with what's 449 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: left your seas and then thanks for joining me, all right, 450 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it, Thank you Spencer alright and joining us on 451 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: the line. Next is Hunter Forbes in Kentucky from Southern 452 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: White Tail Outfitters now Hunter in Kentucky. What would you say? 453 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: The bucket activity is ben lately on a scale of 454 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: one to ten, but so I'm not giving about a 455 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: four as of lately. Um, because of that, we really 456 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: hadn't had consistently cold weather. We finally got a little 457 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: bit of it. Um, deer just recovering from rifle season 458 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: and yeah, we're sitting at about a full right now. Um, 459 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: hoping to improve this next week. What is the idea 460 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: whether that you're looking for in Kentucky in December? Um, 461 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: the colder the better. In Kentucky you're allowed to bat them. 462 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: And between that and the food sources, you know, the colder, 463 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: the more activity you're gonna see. Um, we're going into 464 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: late musloader season this weekend, so we're just trying to 465 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: hunt food sources and colder it gets, the more they 466 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: got to eat. So that's kind of how we're playing it. 467 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: I know you run a lot of trail cameras there 468 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: on your properties. Where do you want those in the 469 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: late season. Yeah, it's sticking to food. It's pretty much 470 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: how we're playing it. We transition from mornings in November 471 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: um to just afternoons UM. Going from this point forward. Uh, 472 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: A lot of the key for us is access. You know, 473 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: a lot of leaves are off trees, um, a lot 474 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: of times are gonna bedding closer to food sources, and 475 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: so a lot of what we're doing is just playing 476 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: the access smart um getting in around lunch and sticking 477 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: it out the rest of the evening. So is there 478 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: a scenario in December on your properties where you'll be 479 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: hunting in the mornings. Uh. Once again, it goes back 480 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: to access. If you can, you know, sneaking the back 481 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: doors somewhere from them going from a food source back 482 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: to bank. Um, it's relevant. And also if you're noticing 483 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: on your camps you're seeing some bread activity a lot 484 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: of times that second run is it's starting to happen 485 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: right around this time. UM, And yeah it's possible. UM. 486 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: As a whole though, we try to just stick the afternoons. 487 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's definitely some scenarios where you can make 488 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: it happen. You mentioned that the bedding seems to move 489 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: closer food. How close to your food sources are we 490 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: talking that these beds shift to It's kind of relevant 491 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: to cover and a lot of different factors. Um depends 492 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: how close, especially if you are baiting and you know 493 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: how close you're putting it too bedding um. But a 494 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: lot of times will be within a hundred yards UM. 495 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Ideally you'd want to stretch them a little bit further 496 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: if you can play elevation, since you really don't have 497 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: the foliage on the trees and stuff to be able 498 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: to get in tight to that. Besides bait, what other 499 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: food sources are relevant? Right now? In Kentucky, all the 500 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: good farmers already have their crops out. It seems like, 501 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: so you're you got cut fields um. As far as 502 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: the corn of beans go, a lot of a lot 503 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: of the uh, the cut corn fields turn into wheat um. 504 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: And so those are gonna be a little bit better 505 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: on your warmer days. Um. It seems like they're more 506 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: sole than grain when it's cold. So there is cut 507 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: bean fields the corn fields um. And then like I said, 508 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: that wheat grown up. And then of course whatever food 509 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: plots you've done. Um. It seems like our Braskas are 510 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: just starting to be hit UM definitely well after we 511 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: had a couple a couple of good freezes last week. 512 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: So how do your set ups change if we have 513 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: a cold front versus a warm front in the late 514 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: season or do they both look the same. For the 515 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: most part, it's looking the same for us because we're 516 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: mixing up our food to have it all in one 517 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: um for instance, you know, putting grain out around those 518 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: weed fields around our food plots. Um, having the mix 519 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: of you know, your greens, um and your grain around 520 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: each other, so it's kind of all in one package. UM. 521 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: Kind of how we're playing it historically. Do you see 522 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: much of a secondary rout on your properties in Kentucky? 523 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: We actually do. We have a pretty high deer population, 524 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: a lot of dose UM. Wish it was a little 525 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: bit close to ratio, but it's just not pretty hard 526 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: to control for us, and so a lot of those 527 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: does don't get bread they are coming back in. So yeah, 528 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely a real thing for us. And when 529 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: is that window that you're typically seeing that kind of 530 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: action right right around now? It's always traditionally around that 531 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: opening of the lazzlater season, which falls on Saturday for us, 532 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I'm gonna say from right now, 533 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: being about the nights you know running onto around the well, 534 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: the fourteen is typically the uh, the peak of what 535 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: we see as far as the second rut gase, it 536 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: does very property property Like I said, wherever those hired 537 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: deal populations for us or wherever we see it. More 538 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: so going forward then in the sext week or so, 539 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to 540 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Kentucky? 541 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: We gotta cold front coming through. Looks like we got 542 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: some running Saturday, and that Sunday Monday looks pretty good. 543 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it, you know, sumthing up there and 544 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: around the seven um that should go on, the food 545 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: that should be on their feet, chasing a little bit 546 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: with that secondary rut. So yeah, feel feel good about 547 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: a seven Alright, hunter, Good luck to you when your 548 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: hunters in camp. Thanks for joining me, okay, specter, alright 549 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is Clay Forest 550 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: from Stewart Ranch Outfitters in Oklahoma. Now, Clay in Oklahoma, 551 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been lately? 552 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten, I'm gonna give 553 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: it about a five right now. Uh. And the reason 554 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that is, you know, our rut for 555 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: the most part in the southern part of the state 556 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: is it's pretty much all the way down, um, and 557 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: a lot of bucks are kind of grouping back up 558 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 1: and and hidden food sources. So you know, for the 559 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: most part, bucks are kind of licking their wounds and uh, 560 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of getting back to two food sources. So it's 561 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: it's not really really good, but it's not really really 562 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: bad though. I almost stick with that kind of number 563 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: a five, kind of mid mid range with activity in 564 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: Oklahoma right now, with that high density that you have 565 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: around your place, do you normally notice any kind of 566 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: a secondary rutting action? We do, Uh, we will see 567 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a of a secondary rut this 568 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: time of year and really push all the way into Christmas, 569 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: but it's really few and far between, and it's something 570 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: that I would never count on, uh if we were 571 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: if we were trying to focus on a on a 572 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: trophy animal. Um, it's just it's not anything that you 573 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: can kind of put your hat on. So this timing year, 574 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: we're really folk sent on food sources and getting to 575 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: where those bucks are trying to kind of regroup from 576 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: from the rut, you know, winding down that sort of thing. 577 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: So if it were me and if I you know, 578 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: with with with clients and hunting personally, we're really focusing 579 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: on and focus seeing on food sources. What are those 580 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: food sources that you're focused on? For us, we plan 581 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: about a hundred acres of small food plots and we 582 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: have uh turn ups planting in those, and then winter 583 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: wheat is a big food sources just in this area, 584 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: so a lot of farmers and rangers plant winter wheat 585 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: for for stalker cattle. So you're really focusing on those 586 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: winter wheat fields or are late season food plots or 587 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: we've got we can feed corn in this area too, 588 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, that's where a baits stay. So corn feeders 589 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: are a source of food as well. But for the 590 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: most part, a lot of these deer don't get too 591 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: much about of corn and they're really focusing on that 592 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: that green source food that winter week turn ups, oats, 593 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, anything that's sort of an act type field. 594 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: Are you doing any kind of morning setups in December? 595 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: We do um you for us in the morning. You 596 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: if you're going to especially to a big winter weeks field, 597 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: you gotta get in early because those deer are gonna 598 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: be there early. So we will get guys in forty 599 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: five minutes to an hour before day live, just because 600 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: we know there's gonna be deer on the field, so 601 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: we don't push them out completely. What is the ideal 602 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: weather that you're looking for in December in Oklahoma? Uh, 603 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: right now it's about seventies five degrees, So that's kind 604 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: of a loaded question. Um, honestly, just kind of right 605 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: around all that thirty five forty five degree mornings, fifty 606 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: degree afternoons, if we can get some weather coming in. 607 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: We've got a front coming in on Friday, so I'm 608 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: sure dear will be moving in front and behind that 609 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: with that pressure change. So really kind of just looking 610 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: for those fronts that come through and hunting in in 611 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: front of and behind those those coal fronts that are 612 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: blowing through. Um, and it seems like a day or 613 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: two after those fronts blows through, and whether kind of 614 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: nor belizes a little bit, we really have some good 615 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: success that next one or two days after the front 616 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: blows through. So really kind of focusing on those cold 617 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: front in the day or two after that following gun 618 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: season in December, do you notice any kind of shift 619 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: in bedding in Oklahoma? Not really, not on our place, 620 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: um and not like I'm just speaking for ourselves right now, 621 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: but our gear for the most parts stick to big, 622 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: tall native grass pastures for betting. U mean, you'll find 623 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: him with some of these siski flats in some little 624 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: thicker areas. But for the most part, betting doesn't really change, 625 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: uh for us as far as what mature dear does. 626 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: For that for that fact, where they bed um normally 627 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: from December all the way you know, back into the summertime. 628 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: So they're they're betting patterns typically don't change a whole lot. 629 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: Where are you running a lot of your trail cameras 630 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: right now? Foods horses, they're they're all back on food 631 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: right now, whether that be a feeder or just right 632 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of the big food plot or or 633 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: wheat field. So I would have all of your on 634 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: all your cameras for information on on food sources. Has 635 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: signmaking pretty much gone cold for you? For the most part, 636 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 1: He's still seeing a little bit of uh, some some 637 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: fresh rubs, you know, maybe some fresh grapes that sort 638 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: of thing, with some little bit of post rud activity. 639 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: But again, it's not really anything that I would count 640 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: on as far as trying to get a mature to 641 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: year down. Um, it's just kind of that that post 642 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: secondary run, just those few deer that hadn't got a 643 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: dough bread or anything down. Is that sign making is 644 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: happening going forward? Then in this next week or so, 645 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to 646 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: be On a scale of one to ten in Oklahoma? 647 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: I'd be a little more optimistic. I probably push it 648 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: to around a seven. We've got a front coming in 649 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: and on Friday, and we're supposed to have a little 650 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: bit of weather on Friday and the Saturday, and then 651 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: some some nicer, more December like weather for Oklahoma in 652 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: the next week. So I think that's really gonna help. 653 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: I think they're really going to be focusing on food 654 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: and with that little pressure change, I think we we 655 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: should have some good activity in this next week or 656 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: ten days in this part of the state. Right Clay, 657 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: congrats to all the success your clients have had this year. 658 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: You guys have done an awesome job based on Instagram. 659 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: Good luck with lot's left of your season. Thanks for 660 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: joining me all right. Thanks been to appreciate it alright 661 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is Bomartinic from 662 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: East meets West hunt in Pennsylvania, now bowin Pennsylvania. What 663 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on 664 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, Well, it depends on 665 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: where you're at, but I would say that the buck 666 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: activity and my area in northern Pennsylvania has been about 667 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: a seven. And I'll say that because I don't think 668 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: that normally they'd be moving on a seven. But with 669 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: the amount of hunters, with deer season coming in last 670 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: week so the rightful season, most hunters per square mile 671 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: anywhere at that time of year in the United States 672 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: here in Pennsylvania, and the deer moving because people are 673 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: moving them. So that's a little bit different than your 674 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: typical reasons for movement, but I think that made it 675 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: a little bit higher. Now, you just killed a mega 676 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: mountain white tail out there this last weekend during rifle season. 677 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: Tell us about that haunt, why you were there, and 678 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: why that buck was there. So it seems like with 679 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: hunting pressure in Pennsylvania and they in the mountains here 680 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: that they're either on the tops or in the bottom, 681 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: so that people don't like walking those steep side hills. 682 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: And from my my trail cameras and then just past knowledge, 683 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: they seemed to like to stick to those side hills, 684 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: especially with the pressure. So what we did was me 685 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: and my buddy Johnny went off on the point of 686 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: this hill on the edge of some thick hemlock cover. 687 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: The prevailing wind was coming across the top of the hill, 688 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: had some rising thirdwals. Everything was a perfect picture perfect 689 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: uh hunt as far as where that buck would be betted. 690 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: And we didn't know that specific deer was going to 691 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: be in there, but was hoping so. And just on 692 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: the edge of of that thick cover. Um My dad 693 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: came around the side of the hill and did a 694 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: little bit of a wind bump to him and a 695 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: deer stepped out at twenty yards from me, and I 696 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: was able to fo them right on the edge of 697 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: the open oak folks, and the thick came walked over. 698 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: Now I know in the past Bout we've interviewed you 699 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: for some articles on the meat eator dot com where 700 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: you've talked about how these bucks like to bed I 701 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: think on the upper third of hills in big woods. 702 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: Do you notice that same thing in late season? And 703 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: why do they want to be on that upper third? So, yeah, 704 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: it does depend So most of the time they like 705 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: to be in that upper third because they can have 706 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: that prevailing wind come across the top and they can 707 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: so they're covered from the back and they can see 708 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: down over the hill, but also get those gay time 709 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: thermals coming up and hitting them in the front, so 710 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: they're basically covered from all angles. And and also if 711 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: if something did come from behind them, they can just 712 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: bomb off the edge of the hill and get away 713 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: pretty pretty easily. As it gets in the late season, 714 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: I have noticed they kind of, um, they kind of 715 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: drop a little bit lower. Um it all spit all 716 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: depends on the food. But in the specific area. And 717 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: he was actually bedded more towards the in the middle ground, 718 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: so the probably towards the bottom of that upper one third, 719 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: and because that's where the acorns seemed to be lower. 720 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: So he could leave his the thick hemlock thermal cover 721 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: to protect him, you know, from the cold winds and 722 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: and everything else, and also just keeping out a sight 723 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 1: of people would also be able to take a few 724 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: steps and and be in the acorns within eight yards, 725 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: so you know, close proximity to food, and it seems 726 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: like they moved a little bit closer to the food 727 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: in the late season. What are the different types of 728 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: food sources that you're looking for this time of year 729 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. The two main ones are if you can 730 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: find any red oaks that still have the acorns um 731 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: on the ground, that's it seems to be a hot 732 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: ticket item right now. And also fresh logging cuts, so 733 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: where they're just the fresh timber cuts um isn't even 734 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: if the loggers are in there during the week the weekend, 735 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: it can be great because they cut down the tops 736 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: and creates a ton of brows and seems the filter 737 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: the deer in with the hunting pressure. Right now, you're 738 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna it's mostly first and last light in those logging cuts. 739 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: If you're doing some in season scouting late season, what 740 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: sorts of things are you looking for food? Trying to 741 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: figure out where they're feeding in relation to that thermal cover, 742 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: and typically on on those side hills those points, UM, 743 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: So I'm looking for hemlock trees, pine trees, anything like 744 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: that in relation to either the oak trees or or 745 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: logging cuts. What is your trail came replacement look like 746 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: in December in the big Woods, I'm still keeping them 747 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: on scrapes and travel routes that seemed to be but 748 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: but close to that that cover. If I have a 749 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: with my cell cameras, I typically run those almost in 750 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: the bedding areas pretty close because I don't need to 751 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: go in there and check them. UM. But otherwise, as 752 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm still running them on scrapes, they still seem to 753 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: be checking those licking branches as they're heading now towards 754 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: those food sources. So for how long do you think 755 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: that scrapes and rubs are going to be relevant there? UM? 756 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: I will typically run that through even in the January. UM, 757 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: they'll they seem that found frushtrates this past weekend m 758 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: being worked and but it's not the same as your 759 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: rout scrapes. I'm talking about the ones that are super 760 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: close to the bedding or the food sources. The ones 761 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: that are more relevant for hunting seemed to be closer 762 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: to the to the bedding cover UM for for this 763 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: time and year, mostly because of pressure and UM, and 764 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: they're not going as far for the for the food 765 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: there going forward. Then in the sixt week or so, 766 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket TV is going to 767 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Pennsylvania. 768 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna drop down to about a four 769 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: or five. So one they are hiding um that they're 770 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: hiding out. They've been having a week and a half 771 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: of gun season pressure as well as we have some 772 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 1: warm temperatures coming in, so I think the daily movement 773 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: is going to be definitely significantly lower than it was 774 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: even the past week. R Bow, congrats again on that 775 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: awesome buck uh. Good luck with the rest of your season, 776 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: and tell people where they can go on Instagram to 777 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: see that white tail you just killed. Yeah, so they 778 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 1: can head over either my personal page which is at 779 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: Bow dot mar Tonic it's apellt the e au dot 780 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: m A R T O n I K or at 781 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: East meets West hunt A right, Bow congrats again, thanks 782 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: for joining me, Thanks Spencer, and that concludes this week's 783 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: episode of rut Fresh Radio. Thanks to Alex Hunter, Clay 784 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: and Bow for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. 785 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: My season is officially over, but we're going to keep 786 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: making rout Fresh episodes for a few more weeks, so 787 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: I hope you're still listening. I hope you're still in 788 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: the woods. And until I talk to you, guys next Wednesday, 789 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: stay wired to Hunt.