1 00:00:04,404 --> 00:00:07,244 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:07,284 --> 00:00:08,204 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:08,844 --> 00:00:11,524 Speaker 2: Baker, I've done this a few times. I've never been 4 00:00:11,524 --> 00:00:12,924 Speaker 2: more excited to talk to a player than I am 5 00:00:12,964 --> 00:00:13,204 Speaker 2: right now. 6 00:00:13,244 --> 00:00:14,604 Speaker 3: Dude, I'm ready. How's life? 7 00:00:14,644 --> 00:00:15,084 Speaker 4: How are you doing? 8 00:00:15,164 --> 00:00:19,924 Speaker 5: Good man? Not a whole lot to complain about. Family's good. Obviously, 9 00:00:19,964 --> 00:00:21,884 Speaker 5: dealing with some adversity in the building with the injuries 10 00:00:21,924 --> 00:00:23,764 Speaker 5: and whatnot. But you know, it's just a good opportunity 11 00:00:23,804 --> 00:00:25,604 Speaker 5: to see what people are made of and continue to 12 00:00:25,644 --> 00:00:26,284 Speaker 5: lead in a good way. 13 00:00:26,444 --> 00:00:27,284 Speaker 3: You mentioned family. 14 00:00:27,564 --> 00:00:29,324 Speaker 2: I was watching an interview this week that you and 15 00:00:29,364 --> 00:00:32,404 Speaker 2: your wife Emily did with Michelle Bisner Buck and in 16 00:00:32,444 --> 00:00:36,044 Speaker 2: the middle of it, Emily says, Baker's not for everybody. 17 00:00:36,564 --> 00:00:39,444 Speaker 3: What a quote, what a wife take? How do you 18 00:00:39,604 --> 00:00:41,524 Speaker 3: explain what she means by that? 19 00:00:43,084 --> 00:00:45,804 Speaker 4: Yeah? That brutally honest on her parts, But I love 20 00:00:45,844 --> 00:00:47,084 Speaker 4: it. It's for me. 21 00:00:47,204 --> 00:00:50,564 Speaker 5: It's to explain that just being honest with everybody, you know, 22 00:00:50,644 --> 00:00:52,924 Speaker 5: saying what I'm thinking, and that comes with good and bad, 23 00:00:53,084 --> 00:00:56,404 Speaker 5: you know, obviously going through things, admitting when I'm wrong 24 00:00:56,724 --> 00:01:00,604 Speaker 5: and not, but also being I guess, just upfront and open. 25 00:01:01,124 --> 00:01:05,204 Speaker 5: Not everybody likes that, but that's okay, And it's just 26 00:01:05,524 --> 00:01:08,084 Speaker 5: trying to keep the relationships positive that you know, people 27 00:01:08,124 --> 00:01:10,684 Speaker 5: I directly work around, the family, friends, loved ones, and 28 00:01:10,724 --> 00:01:13,764 Speaker 5: obviously people in the building. And I think transparency is 29 00:01:13,844 --> 00:01:15,004 Speaker 5: one of the most important things. 30 00:01:15,084 --> 00:01:15,404 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 31 00:01:15,764 --> 00:01:18,484 Speaker 2: When you have someone who doesn't like how candid you are, 32 00:01:18,524 --> 00:01:20,644 Speaker 2: can you tell right away that maybe. 33 00:01:20,404 --> 00:01:21,604 Speaker 3: This is the person I'm not for them? 34 00:01:21,684 --> 00:01:24,284 Speaker 4: Pretty quick? Yeah, you can tell pretty quick. That's okay. 35 00:01:25,164 --> 00:01:28,964 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's fun because you have taken so 36 00:01:29,164 --> 00:01:33,044 Speaker 2: much from talking heads and fans right now, dude, you 37 00:01:33,044 --> 00:01:35,964 Speaker 2: are a darling. People love you right now. What is 38 00:01:36,004 --> 00:01:38,324 Speaker 2: it like being in your beloved era? 39 00:01:39,164 --> 00:01:40,844 Speaker 4: Honestly, just threw all the ups and downs. 40 00:01:40,924 --> 00:01:44,044 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, being at the peak of it when 41 00:01:44,044 --> 00:01:46,244 Speaker 5: it came to college and then obviously the draft getting 42 00:01:46,284 --> 00:01:49,244 Speaker 5: picked number one overall, and then you feel the highs 43 00:01:49,244 --> 00:01:51,324 Speaker 5: and then obviously I had the crash and burn there 44 00:01:51,484 --> 00:01:54,444 Speaker 5: a couple of low years. And so for me, it's 45 00:01:54,604 --> 00:01:57,204 Speaker 5: it's not getting too high, not getting too low, really 46 00:01:57,244 --> 00:01:59,164 Speaker 5: being in the moment, being where my feet are at, 47 00:01:59,444 --> 00:02:01,324 Speaker 5: trying to do everything I possibly can to lead this 48 00:02:01,444 --> 00:02:03,884 Speaker 5: organization the best way and go from there. 49 00:02:03,924 --> 00:02:06,084 Speaker 4: And it's after, you know, being year eight. 50 00:02:06,164 --> 00:02:09,564 Speaker 5: Now you realize the outside opinions truly don't matter. It's 51 00:02:09,604 --> 00:02:11,884 Speaker 5: how you handle the relationships in the building, how you 52 00:02:11,924 --> 00:02:14,604 Speaker 5: come to every day to work, how you lead, how 53 00:02:14,644 --> 00:02:17,364 Speaker 5: you play, how you communicate with people. And if I 54 00:02:17,444 --> 00:02:19,244 Speaker 5: can walk away from the building each day with my 55 00:02:19,244 --> 00:02:21,204 Speaker 5: head held high about the relationships and how I handled 56 00:02:21,204 --> 00:02:23,804 Speaker 5: each thing. It doesn't have to be perfect, but I 57 00:02:23,804 --> 00:02:24,524 Speaker 5: can be proud of that. 58 00:02:24,924 --> 00:02:27,804 Speaker 2: You've had always this thing where I was a walk on. 59 00:02:28,364 --> 00:02:31,124 Speaker 2: Nobody wanted me, this team gave up on me, nobody's 60 00:02:31,164 --> 00:02:32,924 Speaker 2: given up on you. Now you have a home, you 61 00:02:33,204 --> 00:02:36,044 Speaker 2: have respect, you're winning, and you're paid. It's everything. How 62 00:02:36,084 --> 00:02:38,884 Speaker 2: do you keep that, Baker Mayfield? Nobody believes in me? 63 00:02:39,124 --> 00:02:39,364 Speaker 5: Edge? 64 00:02:40,004 --> 00:02:41,364 Speaker 3: When everybody believes in you? 65 00:02:41,764 --> 00:02:45,924 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you can always revert back to the memories 66 00:02:45,964 --> 00:02:47,884 Speaker 5: and the feelings of when you are at your lowest point, 67 00:02:48,164 --> 00:02:50,844 Speaker 5: when you have a home and a place that you 68 00:02:50,884 --> 00:02:53,804 Speaker 5: can feel comfortable, Not that I'll ever feel comfortable. 69 00:02:54,444 --> 00:02:55,324 Speaker 4: You never want to let it go. 70 00:02:55,404 --> 00:02:56,804 Speaker 5: Once you get a taste a winning, once you get 71 00:02:56,804 --> 00:02:59,604 Speaker 5: to takee success in what this operation a day day 72 00:02:59,644 --> 00:03:01,604 Speaker 5: life in the NFL is supposed to look like. You 73 00:03:01,604 --> 00:03:03,524 Speaker 5: don't want to let that go, and so's your hanging 74 00:03:03,524 --> 00:03:05,764 Speaker 5: onto that for dear life and trying to improve in 75 00:03:06,004 --> 00:03:07,684 Speaker 5: every way possible and go from there. 76 00:03:07,764 --> 00:03:10,524 Speaker 3: You want to protect it, which I've earned. Absolutely. You 77 00:03:10,564 --> 00:03:13,404 Speaker 3: have a great thing here, and you mentioned the highs 78 00:03:13,444 --> 00:03:13,924 Speaker 3: the lows. 79 00:03:14,244 --> 00:03:16,564 Speaker 2: I brought some pictures for you today, a boy, Oh yeah, 80 00:03:16,644 --> 00:03:20,284 Speaker 2: I got pictures. Your career is really a career of images, 81 00:03:20,804 --> 00:03:25,324 Speaker 2: just like these. We'll say about that. I got some 82 00:03:25,444 --> 00:03:27,244 Speaker 2: of the folder. I'm going to take you through a few, 83 00:03:27,284 --> 00:03:28,604 Speaker 2: and I just want you to how does a picture 84 00:03:28,604 --> 00:03:30,924 Speaker 2: make you feel? And what do you want to say 85 00:03:30,924 --> 00:03:32,044 Speaker 2: about it? Here's this one. 86 00:03:32,484 --> 00:03:34,604 Speaker 5: This is one of the ones that I was thinking, 87 00:03:34,644 --> 00:03:35,884 Speaker 5: that's one of the bad ones. What do you mean, 88 00:03:36,964 --> 00:03:38,884 Speaker 5: look like I've been rode hard and put up wet 89 00:03:38,884 --> 00:03:42,284 Speaker 5: in this. The mustache not a good look. Probably should 90 00:03:42,324 --> 00:03:45,524 Speaker 5: have touched up the hair ready for the press conference. 91 00:03:45,884 --> 00:03:47,684 Speaker 5: Yeah's that's in the midst of a struggle. You can 92 00:03:47,724 --> 00:03:49,764 Speaker 5: tell that game probably didn't go very well. 93 00:03:50,124 --> 00:03:50,844 Speaker 3: I don't think it did. 94 00:03:51,244 --> 00:03:52,924 Speaker 2: Is we're sitting here in Florida now, it's easy to 95 00:03:52,924 --> 00:03:56,684 Speaker 2: look at that and things are better about Cleveland. Them 96 00:03:56,724 --> 00:03:59,204 Speaker 2: partying ways with you is something that is aged terribly, 97 00:03:59,604 --> 00:04:01,604 Speaker 2: especially given the person they brought in to replace you. 98 00:04:02,004 --> 00:04:04,884 Speaker 2: What has it been like from a distance watching them 99 00:04:04,924 --> 00:04:06,604 Speaker 2: struggle to develop a quarterback. 100 00:04:09,004 --> 00:04:12,604 Speaker 5: It's tough to not pay attention to it, just because 101 00:04:12,644 --> 00:04:16,044 Speaker 5: there's still people there that are genuine friends and we're 102 00:04:16,084 --> 00:04:18,524 Speaker 5: there for instrumental years of my life in this next 103 00:04:18,564 --> 00:04:21,524 Speaker 5: chapter of the journey in the NFL. So watching from afar, 104 00:04:21,644 --> 00:04:24,684 Speaker 5: but also then trying to balance that with what is 105 00:04:24,724 --> 00:04:26,724 Speaker 5: really important, and that's how I handle my stuff here 106 00:04:26,964 --> 00:04:29,244 Speaker 5: and checking in every once in a while with people, 107 00:04:29,364 --> 00:04:32,284 Speaker 5: but after that it's I got priorities here in Tampa. 108 00:04:32,364 --> 00:04:34,524 Speaker 3: Are you on the text threads? Like still checking in? 109 00:04:34,644 --> 00:04:35,364 Speaker 3: How do you check in? 110 00:04:35,844 --> 00:04:36,404 Speaker 4: Uh? 111 00:04:36,804 --> 00:04:39,124 Speaker 5: Not really not really check in, kind of know what's 112 00:04:39,164 --> 00:04:41,524 Speaker 5: going on, but just asking people how they're doing, how 113 00:04:41,524 --> 00:04:43,084 Speaker 5: the families are doing, and go from there. 114 00:04:43,164 --> 00:04:46,884 Speaker 2: All right, picture too, I'll take that one. I see 115 00:04:46,884 --> 00:04:49,804 Speaker 2: this picture everywhere. It's an infamous picture. I'm sure you 116 00:04:49,964 --> 00:04:51,124 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen it before. 117 00:04:52,844 --> 00:04:53,924 Speaker 3: Yep, you laugh? 118 00:04:54,204 --> 00:04:57,524 Speaker 4: Yeah, how does it make you feel proud? 119 00:04:57,764 --> 00:04:57,884 Speaker 3: You know? 120 00:04:58,004 --> 00:05:00,964 Speaker 5: This is a twenty twenty two with Carolina was a 121 00:05:01,044 --> 00:05:04,164 Speaker 5: year that you know, after what I call being in 122 00:05:04,404 --> 00:05:07,044 Speaker 5: MBO technically being on the Cleveland roster in the off season, 123 00:05:07,484 --> 00:05:09,564 Speaker 5: but knowing I wasn't going to play for the Browns again, 124 00:05:10,044 --> 00:05:11,924 Speaker 5: not knowing where I was going to be, and then 125 00:05:12,004 --> 00:05:15,844 Speaker 5: getting traded early July, but not meeting my teammates till 126 00:05:15,884 --> 00:05:19,164 Speaker 5: training camp. So I looked at twenty twenty two, is okay, 127 00:05:19,964 --> 00:05:23,444 Speaker 5: how can I be the best version of myself no 128 00:05:23,484 --> 00:05:26,124 Speaker 5: matter what role I had? And that's from going in 129 00:05:26,164 --> 00:05:29,084 Speaker 5: and competing with Sam and also having PJ Walker in 130 00:05:29,124 --> 00:05:32,164 Speaker 5: the room. How can I support these guys whether I'm 131 00:05:32,204 --> 00:05:35,404 Speaker 5: starting backup or inactive. And this was this was during 132 00:05:35,404 --> 00:05:37,884 Speaker 5: a Blitz pick up period, and we're talking about protections, 133 00:05:37,924 --> 00:05:40,644 Speaker 5: different twists and stunts and so just trying to give 134 00:05:40,644 --> 00:05:42,404 Speaker 5: the guys that not that I'm going to give them 135 00:05:42,404 --> 00:05:44,724 Speaker 5: a good pass rush look by any means, but just 136 00:05:45,324 --> 00:05:47,084 Speaker 5: so they communicate and pass stuff off. 137 00:05:47,804 --> 00:05:48,804 Speaker 4: And that's for me. 138 00:05:48,884 --> 00:05:51,604 Speaker 5: That was when I was leaving Cleveland, some things got 139 00:05:51,604 --> 00:05:53,164 Speaker 5: out that I was a bad teammate. That's something that 140 00:05:53,164 --> 00:05:56,004 Speaker 5: I just I won't stand for. That'll never be true 141 00:05:56,044 --> 00:05:59,444 Speaker 5: about me. So it's I'm proud to say that in 142 00:05:59,484 --> 00:06:02,444 Speaker 5: whatever role I had in Carolina, I did it with 143 00:06:02,484 --> 00:06:05,324 Speaker 5: one hundred percent effort and control everything I possibly could 144 00:06:05,364 --> 00:06:08,564 Speaker 5: and Yeah, tape up the ankle when it's sprained and 145 00:06:08,604 --> 00:06:10,404 Speaker 5: give the team a good scout team defensive end. 146 00:06:10,484 --> 00:06:12,444 Speaker 3: Look, it looks kind of badass. It's got three point. 147 00:06:12,684 --> 00:06:14,404 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a high motor, probably not going to 148 00:06:14,524 --> 00:06:15,764 Speaker 4: quit to the whistle. 149 00:06:16,204 --> 00:06:16,924 Speaker 3: A lot of tape. 150 00:06:17,404 --> 00:06:19,524 Speaker 4: Coach's son, Jim Rat you know that. Yeah. 151 00:06:19,804 --> 00:06:22,524 Speaker 2: Kurt Warner told me once in his very unique Hall 152 00:06:22,524 --> 00:06:24,524 Speaker 2: of Fame career that there was a time he was 153 00:06:24,604 --> 00:06:26,604 Speaker 2: running scout team for the Cardinals and he's like, what 154 00:06:26,644 --> 00:06:29,804 Speaker 2: am I doing? And this might be the end? Was 155 00:06:29,844 --> 00:06:32,684 Speaker 2: there ever a moment for you through the journey where 156 00:06:32,684 --> 00:06:33,764 Speaker 2: you're like, I don't know if this is going to 157 00:06:33,804 --> 00:06:34,164 Speaker 2: work out. 158 00:06:35,204 --> 00:06:36,764 Speaker 5: I don't know if it for me. I don't know 159 00:06:36,804 --> 00:06:38,484 Speaker 5: if it got to that point. I think it was. 160 00:06:38,684 --> 00:06:39,484 Speaker 5: It was close to that. 161 00:06:39,644 --> 00:06:39,924 Speaker 3: Yeah. 162 00:06:39,964 --> 00:06:42,724 Speaker 5: And the refreshing part was the end of twenty two 163 00:06:42,804 --> 00:06:45,164 Speaker 5: when I got to La. You know, I got released 164 00:06:45,164 --> 00:06:47,564 Speaker 5: by the Panthers. Go to La, found the joy and 165 00:06:47,604 --> 00:06:49,684 Speaker 5: fun in football again with McVeigh and learning from those 166 00:06:49,724 --> 00:06:51,284 Speaker 5: guys because we had nothing to lose. 167 00:06:51,444 --> 00:06:51,724 Speaker 3: I was. 168 00:06:51,804 --> 00:06:53,604 Speaker 5: I had five games with them before I went into 169 00:06:53,644 --> 00:06:56,084 Speaker 5: free agency, five games to learn from them. They weren't 170 00:06:56,084 --> 00:06:59,084 Speaker 5: going to the playoffs. I wasn't doing anything. I didn't 171 00:06:59,084 --> 00:07:00,564 Speaker 5: know where I was going, where that next chapter was 172 00:07:00,604 --> 00:07:02,164 Speaker 5: going to be. So how can I just hit the 173 00:07:02,204 --> 00:07:05,444 Speaker 5: reset button, find that fun and football game and go 174 00:07:05,484 --> 00:07:07,844 Speaker 5: from there. And so I don't know if I necessarily 175 00:07:07,844 --> 00:07:09,444 Speaker 5: got to the point where I was questioning am I 176 00:07:09,444 --> 00:07:12,404 Speaker 5: ever going to start again? Because of that refresher there 177 00:07:12,404 --> 00:07:12,924 Speaker 5: in La. 178 00:07:13,204 --> 00:07:17,084 Speaker 3: Rahms Baker as a legend an alzheimer I got. 179 00:07:17,124 --> 00:07:19,684 Speaker 5: I got pretty fat out there about two months of 180 00:07:19,724 --> 00:07:22,164 Speaker 5: hotel food and not good. 181 00:07:22,764 --> 00:07:23,964 Speaker 3: Well, here's the last picture. 182 00:07:24,084 --> 00:07:26,724 Speaker 2: This one's special because this hasn't been taken yet, but 183 00:07:26,924 --> 00:07:27,884 Speaker 2: I think it will be taken. 184 00:07:27,924 --> 00:07:29,164 Speaker 3: I wonder how this makes you feel. 185 00:07:31,084 --> 00:07:34,524 Speaker 4: It's a good photoshop. I mean, that's the goal. 186 00:07:34,844 --> 00:07:37,804 Speaker 5: And that's you know when people ask, like you talk 187 00:07:37,844 --> 00:07:39,804 Speaker 5: about how do you continue to have that edge? I 188 00:07:39,804 --> 00:07:42,404 Speaker 5: don't have one of these yet. And that's as a quarterback, 189 00:07:42,684 --> 00:07:46,324 Speaker 5: as a high competitor. This is this is the ultimate goal. 190 00:07:46,404 --> 00:07:48,244 Speaker 5: And so like I was saying, once you get a 191 00:07:48,284 --> 00:07:50,844 Speaker 5: taste of success, it's we have the team to do it. 192 00:07:50,964 --> 00:07:54,604 Speaker 5: And when that is a reality, that makes you strive 193 00:07:54,724 --> 00:07:56,884 Speaker 5: and work even harder for it. And that's I mean, 194 00:07:56,924 --> 00:08:00,524 Speaker 5: that's that's a big one. So hopefully that it'll be 195 00:08:00,564 --> 00:08:02,804 Speaker 5: real and I won't have a mustache in the real. 196 00:08:02,644 --> 00:08:05,724 Speaker 4: One, don't have a super mustache. Should be get there, right, 197 00:08:07,564 --> 00:08:09,244 Speaker 4: There's no telling what I'll do at that point. 198 00:08:10,124 --> 00:08:12,564 Speaker 2: All right, So here's going to play to something that 199 00:08:12,684 --> 00:08:14,164 Speaker 2: is is one of your strengths. 200 00:08:14,204 --> 00:08:16,204 Speaker 3: But I want to get through this. You are a 201 00:08:16,284 --> 00:08:17,564 Speaker 3: master deflector. 202 00:08:18,124 --> 00:08:21,724 Speaker 2: You're maddeningly self deprecating any comment that's positive or any 203 00:08:21,724 --> 00:08:24,444 Speaker 2: compliment that comes to you. It's the teammates, it's your line, 204 00:08:24,444 --> 00:08:26,404 Speaker 2: it's the coaches, it's the fans, which is great, But 205 00:08:26,444 --> 00:08:29,164 Speaker 2: I want to know something that you personally do on 206 00:08:29,244 --> 00:08:32,324 Speaker 2: the field that you think you are great at and 207 00:08:32,364 --> 00:08:33,164 Speaker 2: deserve praise for. 208 00:08:33,324 --> 00:08:36,604 Speaker 4: What do you do really well on the field? 209 00:08:37,364 --> 00:08:38,924 Speaker 5: I mean, I think I can make every throw that 210 00:08:38,964 --> 00:08:41,684 Speaker 5: a quarterback needs to make. I think I've always had 211 00:08:41,844 --> 00:08:46,044 Speaker 5: a special arm talent. But for me now, I think 212 00:08:46,084 --> 00:08:48,124 Speaker 5: the best thing on the field is just the communication. 213 00:08:48,164 --> 00:08:50,244 Speaker 4: You get guys on the same page, and but. 214 00:08:50,164 --> 00:08:52,524 Speaker 5: That that's well before we get on the field on 215 00:08:52,564 --> 00:08:54,724 Speaker 5: game day. Yeah, that's that's throughout the week and that's 216 00:08:55,004 --> 00:08:56,924 Speaker 5: but that's also a tribute to the guys paying attention 217 00:08:56,964 --> 00:08:59,444 Speaker 5: to being locked in to where we've talked about certain 218 00:08:59,484 --> 00:09:02,244 Speaker 5: things and meetings and you know, every week you have 219 00:09:02,244 --> 00:09:05,004 Speaker 5: a two minute meeting and this year we've had I 220 00:09:05,004 --> 00:09:07,164 Speaker 5: don't know how many two minute drives that we've needed. 221 00:09:07,244 --> 00:09:09,564 Speaker 5: And so guys realize that when we cover this stuff 222 00:09:09,564 --> 00:09:13,244 Speaker 5: in meetings, it's vital on game day, it's really really important. 223 00:09:13,324 --> 00:09:16,644 Speaker 5: So I think the stuff that I communicate throughout the 224 00:09:16,684 --> 00:09:18,804 Speaker 5: week and then when that communication comes to life on 225 00:09:18,884 --> 00:09:21,404 Speaker 5: Sundays or whatever day we play, that's that's the most 226 00:09:21,404 --> 00:09:22,004 Speaker 5: important part. 227 00:09:22,404 --> 00:09:25,244 Speaker 2: And you got a rocket arm, you can make every 228 00:09:25,244 --> 00:09:27,764 Speaker 2: throw and you're scramblings just getting better with age. 229 00:09:27,804 --> 00:09:28,004 Speaker 3: Dude. 230 00:09:28,044 --> 00:09:30,524 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand that part. It'll be confusing for 231 00:09:30,564 --> 00:09:31,404 Speaker 5: me for a long time. 232 00:09:32,284 --> 00:09:33,964 Speaker 2: Well, we love it in the media, and that's why 233 00:09:34,004 --> 00:09:36,084 Speaker 2: I want to end with media. You have a very 234 00:09:36,124 --> 00:09:39,004 Speaker 2: colorful relationship with the media, up down, everywhere. 235 00:09:39,044 --> 00:09:40,244 Speaker 3: It's always interesting to watch. 236 00:09:40,764 --> 00:09:45,644 Speaker 2: What is something in NFL media that you admire and respect. 237 00:09:46,524 --> 00:09:49,044 Speaker 5: I think if if you're open and honest with them, 238 00:09:49,324 --> 00:09:52,524 Speaker 5: they're not going to beat you down. I think if 239 00:09:53,044 --> 00:09:56,364 Speaker 5: you try and say something but do something else, I 240 00:09:56,364 --> 00:09:57,484 Speaker 5: don't know, being authentic. 241 00:09:57,564 --> 00:09:59,804 Speaker 4: I think good reporters. 242 00:09:59,844 --> 00:10:02,324 Speaker 5: Good media respect that and they're not going to tear 243 00:10:02,364 --> 00:10:04,564 Speaker 5: you down when you're telling them this is where I 244 00:10:04,564 --> 00:10:05,844 Speaker 5: messed up, flat out. 245 00:10:05,844 --> 00:10:07,764 Speaker 4: That's on me. I gotta be better, I gotta do this. 246 00:10:08,564 --> 00:10:11,004 Speaker 5: I think that's that's the part that's special is when 247 00:10:11,044 --> 00:10:14,044 Speaker 5: you actually build a relationship. You're not saying that they're 248 00:10:14,084 --> 00:10:16,524 Speaker 5: the enemy, but you can just have a general conversation 249 00:10:16,564 --> 00:10:16,884 Speaker 5: with them. 250 00:10:17,164 --> 00:10:18,404 Speaker 4: That's the important part. 251 00:10:18,644 --> 00:10:21,124 Speaker 2: What is something in the NFL media that's just it 252 00:10:21,164 --> 00:10:22,324 Speaker 2: just drives you crazy. 253 00:10:22,724 --> 00:10:25,124 Speaker 5: You know, some of the storylines get old, but it's 254 00:10:25,884 --> 00:10:26,604 Speaker 5: it is what it is. 255 00:10:26,724 --> 00:10:27,924 Speaker 4: They gotta get paid. 256 00:10:27,924 --> 00:10:30,044 Speaker 5: They got to pay their bills too, So answer the 257 00:10:30,124 --> 00:10:31,804 Speaker 5: questions and move on even if you don't like them. 258 00:10:31,924 --> 00:10:35,284 Speaker 2: You said something hilarious recently, I'm getting a champion now, 259 00:10:35,324 --> 00:10:37,844 Speaker 2: but next week it's because I was arrogant or something 260 00:10:37,844 --> 00:10:40,244 Speaker 2: like That's you were right on with that, Yeah, and 261 00:10:40,284 --> 00:10:41,324 Speaker 2: that resonates with you. 262 00:10:41,804 --> 00:10:43,084 Speaker 4: Yeah. 263 00:10:43,524 --> 00:10:46,764 Speaker 5: At an early age, my dad introduced me to the 264 00:10:46,764 --> 00:10:49,084 Speaker 5: movie The Natural and there's a quote in there, you 265 00:10:49,124 --> 00:10:51,684 Speaker 5: know whatever, they're still going to write the story, so 266 00:10:52,524 --> 00:10:54,804 Speaker 5: control what you can. And I think, you know, for me, 267 00:10:54,884 --> 00:10:57,804 Speaker 5: it's being authentic, being myself, owning up to mistakes, being 268 00:10:57,804 --> 00:11:00,444 Speaker 5: proud of who I am and not afraid to admit 269 00:11:00,444 --> 00:11:01,964 Speaker 5: that I don't have it figured out, you know, but 270 00:11:02,044 --> 00:11:04,364 Speaker 5: if people are learning along with me a lot on 271 00:11:04,444 --> 00:11:06,844 Speaker 5: the way, Not everybody needs to act like they have 272 00:11:06,924 --> 00:11:09,404 Speaker 5: it figured out, because nobody really does. You're still trying 273 00:11:09,404 --> 00:11:12,564 Speaker 5: to progress, improve each day, and that's to me, that's important. 274 00:11:12,884 --> 00:11:15,924 Speaker 3: You got some Roy Hobbs and you, dude, that's really cool. Listen. 275 00:11:16,084 --> 00:11:17,724 Speaker 3: You may not be for everybody, but I think you're 276 00:11:17,764 --> 00:11:18,044 Speaker 3: the man. 277 00:11:18,124 --> 00:11:19,684 Speaker 4: Appreciate thanks. 278 00:11:19,684 --> 00:11:19,964 Speaker 3: Baker. 279 00:11:20,604 --> 00:11:23,444 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 280 00:11:23,484 --> 00:11:28,604 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. For more iHeartRadio pods, go to the iHeartRadio app, 281 00:11:29,044 --> 00:11:32,004 Speaker 1: go to Apple, go anywhere you like, it'll be there.