1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson, Taylor E LEAs Morris, and 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: it's here. She is the founder of media company in 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: her Workout and the author of the book by the 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: same name. She were also recently named one of Fortune 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: ten's Innovators Shaping the Future of Health. I loved that 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: because I love the direction. I feel like mental health, 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: emotional health, all of those things are going. I wanted 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to start with I read your bio and it said 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: you turned being bad at self care and being firmly 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: convinced of every humans potential into a career. So sometimes 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: I think what makes an expert is people with lived experience. 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: So can you tell us what does it mean to 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: be bad at self care? Yeah, it's just not my 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: natural tendency. So, I mean, we could talk about all 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: of the personality things, like if you're an angiogram person, 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm an indiogram three with a fore wing um strengths. 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Finders of my strengths are like futuristic responsibility. So I 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: have all of these things of my personality that are 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: really high achieving, and for the longest time that's just 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: how I lived my life and still now that's like 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: my default switch is to focus on being more productive 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: and getting more work done and achieving that next thing. 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: And what happened was I kept burning myself out and 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: I realized, Okay, I can't just like take a day 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: off and have that fix everything. Actually the way I 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: built my life is unsustainable, and so I need to 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: make a change. So yeah, I I still and I'm 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: actually coming off of around of burnout a few months ago, 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: where that was probably the hardest time to admit to 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: myself that I had burnout because I was like, I 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: just wrote this book, surely I'm over it now, and no, 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: it's back. I'm still bad at self care. But hopefully 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: that means I'm relatable. Yes, I mean, I think the 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: word burnout has been something we're hearing a lot more 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: since maybe even COVID, because as a culture we've just 37 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: kind of undergone this um this trauma together, you know, 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: like everyone has been through some experience, and I think 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: it's made a lot of people question the way that 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: they lived their life. I know I experienced burnout really 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: bad and I had to take a break period because 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: it just it was too much. All at once, and 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: then the crash came, and that's something that I've been 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: really committed to never getting back too. And so after COVID, 45 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: I've been sort of reevaluating how to work again. So 46 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: did you face that moment in your life where, like, 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: what got you to that point? I guess what did 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: life look like? Yeah? I talked about this in the book, 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: and for me, it's this particular Sunday evening and it 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: was the season in my life where I had just 51 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: gotten married, I was working full time. I was the 52 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: first full time employee at a startup, which if you've 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: ever worked at a start up, especially as a first 54 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: full time employ you're doing a lot of everything. And 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I also was doing a side hustle, so I had 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: some clients of my own doing brand strategy work, and 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: I was volunteering at two nonprofits. And I was still, 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: like in my twenties, trying to have friends and like 59 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: have a life outside of work. And it was the 60 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: Sunday night where I was trying to be like good 61 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: and plan my week out, and I couldn't even plan 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: my week out because I just kept getting so stressed 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: about everything that I had to do, to the point 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: that I was like, Okay, this isn't working. We're just 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: going to close the laptop. We're going to take a 66 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: bath and not look at my phone or my laptop 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: until the following morning. And that was the first time 68 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: that I started incorporating a ritual. Like for the longest time, 69 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: every Sunday night, I would take a bath, I would 70 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: wind down, and that I would give myself space from 71 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: like all of the noise and devices as I was 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: entering week. And then the more that I did thought, 73 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the more I was like, I want to feel like 74 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: that in other points of my day. So it was 75 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: less of their being this really low rock bottom and 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: more that I kept being like, I keep getting back 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: to this place, and everything I've tried so far isn't 78 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: actually getting me through to something different. Okay, so mobil, 79 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: next question. I guess this actually works. But I feel 80 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: like a lot of people are like, you know, oh, 81 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: let's do self care, let's go shopping, or like, let's 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, some system of some sort of way 83 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 1: of like doting on yourself, and I think it could 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: be that, but there's a bigger conversation that seems to 85 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: be happening now about actual ways to do self care that, 86 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: like what you said, the ritualistic experiences that kind of 87 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: fill you up in a different kind of way. So 88 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: maybe let's start with what is self care? Yeah, I'm 89 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: so glad that you asked us, because even I came 90 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: up in more of like that. I don't know if 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: you ever watched Parks in Wreck, but they have to 92 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: treat yourself exactly what you're talking about. And so that 93 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: was what I thought of as self care. And again 94 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: that's why I kept coming up against this wall because 95 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: I love massages. I was just telling you before we 96 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: started recording. I was in Paris. I got a massage 97 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: in Paris. I love massages, but like getting a massage 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: every even if you can get a massage once a month, 99 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: that's not going to like seed you. And so the 100 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: definition that I use of self care is listening within 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: and responding in the most loving way possible. And I 102 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: think that's so important because it shifts self care from 103 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: being like I bought myself a massage, I took a bath, 104 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: I did this elaborate tense step skincare routine to self 105 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: care being a conversation, and a conversation is something that 106 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: you can have regardless of what your budget is, regardless 107 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: of what your ability level is, you can always be 108 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: in conversation with yourself. Now, yes, if you have more 109 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: money at your disposal or you are able to move 110 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: your body in different ways, yeah, that might change. I 111 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: talked to so much. I moved something that might change 112 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: what your abilities are in terms of your loving response. 113 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: But so many of the most impactful ways that I 114 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: personally listen within and respond with love like cost zero dollars. Well, 115 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: can you tell us more about some of those ways? Absolutely? So, 116 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: Like this morning, I move for me. Movement is really big, 117 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: like to and I think my mom really noticed it 118 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: before I did. But earlier in that time, when I 119 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: was starting to figure out my relationship to self care 120 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: and start to get a little better at self care, 121 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: my mom would hear me. We talk. I'm really close 122 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: with my mom. We talked like every day, and I 123 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: talked about how stressed I was, and she could hear 124 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: it in my voice and she'd say, Hey, have you 125 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: moved your body today? And it'd be like, oh, no, 126 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: I haven't. So that's a huge thing is starting my 127 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: day with some type of movement. Um. Today I did 128 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: cardio kickboxing. Sometimes I live really close to the lake 129 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: in Chicago. Sometimes it's taking a walk by the lake. 130 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's doing yoga. But that movement is huge for me. 131 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: My body always needs some type of movement. Another thing 132 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: that I'm hit and miss on is journaling, and it 133 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that journaling doesn't need to be 134 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: like there isn't a right or wrong way to journal. 135 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't personally do it every day and like a 136 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: stream of consciousness way. But I woke up this morning 137 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: and I just had thoughts on my mind that like 138 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: needed to go somewhere, and so I just spent some 139 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: time as one of the first things I did of writing. Um, 140 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: I've been I know, I just talked about movement in 141 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: the morning, but I've also been trying to have more 142 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: movement breaks throughout my day. So I just got like 143 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: a treadmill desk. But even before I have the treadmill desk, 144 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: I just put like a little yoga mat in my 145 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: office so I could do something or I'll have dance 146 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: parties in between tasks. That things were like humans weren't 147 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: meant to sit at their desks all day, and so 148 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get myself up and moving and doing 149 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: things besides just staring at a screen. Yeah, it's that. 150 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: There's a couple of points I want to touch on 151 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: that I think you hit that are so important. I think, 152 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: especially for women, I've heard a lot about the movement 153 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: being such a part of our energetic flow, you know, 154 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Like I think women's energy is a lot more flowing 155 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: in general. And so when we're stagnant or sitting at 156 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: a desk, like you just said, and we're not expressing 157 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: ourselves through our bodies and our movement, it does seem 158 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: to create some sort of block. And like this brings 159 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: me to the next point that you mentioned about the 160 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: conversation with yourself, And so I'm wondering how all tied 161 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: all of those things are. Like, when you're doing movement 162 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: practices or even going on a walk, do you feel 163 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: like you're having a better connection to self or you're 164 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: more able to tap into what's happening in your brain? 165 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: And like, I think some people get overwhelmed with the 166 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: idea of how do I talk to myself? But like 167 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: we're constantly talking to ourselves, because so can you speak 168 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: to that a little bit? Yeah, I'm so glad that 169 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: you brought that up, so we where to start with that. 170 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: I I think we all have different entry points into 171 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: listening to ourselves. Um I, this is another thing that 172 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: comes up in the book. I grew up doing ballet, 173 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: and so for me it was ballet. But it doesn't 174 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: have to be dance. I feel like most people who 175 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,359 Speaker 1: grew up playing some type of sport or doing something athletic. 176 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: You started to be in conversation with yourself, you start 177 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: to notice, oh, I'm tight, or like I also did track, 178 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: Like I can do sprints, and I could do long 179 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: jump and triple jump, but like asked me to do 180 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: a four eight hundred, way too too much for me. 181 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: We all have like different ways that we hear from ourselves. 182 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: And speaking with broad broadbrush strokes here. The older we get, 183 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: the more disconnected we tend to be from ourselves. So honestly, 184 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: a starting point where people could be like, how was 185 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: I connected to myself as a kid. I find that 186 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: dance and writing is something I come back to a 187 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: lot because those were things that I did as a 188 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: kid when I felt really connected to myself. I also 189 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: talk about in Relationship to Burnout that we were talking 190 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: about earlier in the book, I find that the times 191 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: where I am the closest to burnout are the times 192 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: that I'm at least connected to myself. So understanding where 193 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: that connection point is for you all that to say, 194 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: it can be really simple. It doesn't need to be 195 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: this complex ritual if you don't want it to be. Um, 196 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: it can be just sitting in silence, which so many 197 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: people you you think that you're with your thoughts, but 198 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: you're actually having the TV on in the background, or 199 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: you're constantly having music, you're constantly having a podcast, or 200 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: even when you are thinking to yourself, you're kind of 201 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: replaying things that you've heard or what you think other 202 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: people think, or you think other people might view you. So, 203 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: as I was saying, we all have different entry points, 204 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: and it's a matter of figuring out what your entry 205 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: point is. For most people, trying to be alone with 206 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: your thoughts for a minute is going to tell you 207 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: a lot about yourself and how comfortable or uncomfortable you 208 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: are with being with yourself. So that's typically the starting 209 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: point that I'll say, is just like, create a pocket 210 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: of silence with no other noise except maybe the sounds 211 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: of nature around you. That's it. It seems simple, but 212 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: even from me sometimes it's challenging. Yeah, And I actually 213 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: think that's an interesting point because you mentioned that as 214 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: we age we get more disconnected from ourselves, which I 215 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: think it's a fascinating thing to think about. But it 216 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: makes so much sense because we have so many more distractions, 217 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: or you maybe have a family, there's more people that 218 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: you're pouring into, like even job wise or whatever those are. 219 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: That's my thought. Was that kind of in line with 220 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: what happens with why we would get disconnected as adults. Absolutely, 221 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: there's more people, there's more you're more aware that their 222 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: aspectations of you, and as your kid. When you're a kid, 223 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: you're just kind of you and you think it's a 224 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: way for you to be you and to care for 225 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: yourself well. And then that leads to not being able 226 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: to be with yourself though, which is like what you're 227 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: saying when you actually get quiet. I've known a lot 228 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: of friends and I mean I've gone through periods of 229 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: time like this where it's like very uncomfortable, uncomfortable for 230 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: me to be in the silence and just sit with myself. 231 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: It's like immediately you feel that anxiety, you know, like 232 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: without any distractions. You put your phone away, you turn 233 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: the TV off, and you just sit. So if people 234 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: feel that, like, what would you say, I mean, what 235 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: are maybe some of the reasons that would happen? Or 236 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: how do we overcome that? Like is should you start 237 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: with a minute? Or how is there a way that 238 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: like an easy tip to give people about doing that 239 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: kind of thing? What I would say to people who 240 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: are struggling to sit with themselves and even have that resistance. 241 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: First of all, the resistance is telling you something, So 242 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: that's good that you are listening to that, And that's 243 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: actually the first step to you listening to yourself is 244 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: like the noticing, oh there's some resistance here, You're not alone. 245 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people go through this because we I mean, 246 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: it's it's a reality that some of the smartest people 247 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: in the world are paid hundreds of thousands of dollars 248 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: a year to create things, whether it's apps or algorithms 249 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: or content, to distract us from ourselves. And it's I mean, 250 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm still on social media. I'm sure most so the 251 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: people who are listening are still on social media. So 252 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: it's not a judgment on that. It's just a reality 253 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: that we have a lot more to overcome, and some 254 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: of it's even kind of messing with our our brains, 255 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: like the dopamine, the quick head scroll and I can 256 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: click this and I can see a cute icon pop 257 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: up or whatever it is. And we don't often have 258 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: that instant gratification when it comes to ourselves, to being 259 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: with ourselves, and so I like to remind people that 260 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: you're not alone. And also in some ways this is 261 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: by design. So the best thing that you can do 262 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: is to give yourself compassion, because again when we talk 263 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: about the definition of self care, that I use listening 264 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: within and responding and the most loving way possible. If 265 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: you are doing something but you're beating yourself up and 266 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: you're telling yourself, I'm so awful, I should be better, 267 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, I bet that doesn't feel particularly 268 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: caring for you. So you need to be have that 269 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: grace for yourself. If it's thirty seconds, if it's twenty seconds, 270 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: and that's all that you can stand. Be like, Okay, 271 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: I did that. I tried to sit with myself. I 272 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: noticed there was resistance. I came at myself with as 273 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: much care as I could muster in twenty seconds was 274 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: all it could be. And and sometimes even in twenty seconds, 275 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: you can realize, you know what, I'm hungry, Maybe I 276 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: need to go fix myself something nourishing, or I'm p 277 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: a messing. Maybe I just need to be kinder to 278 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: myself that I'm feeling a lot of emotions because my 279 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: hormones are going all over the place. You might find 280 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: out a lot about yourself even in that little gap 281 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: of time. And it's so interesting. You made such a 282 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: good point. It's like, can be the tiniest thing, Like 283 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: I have a mentor who always says halt, which is 284 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: essentially what you're saying. Hungry, angry, lonely, tired, Like am 285 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: I any of those things? And it's so interesting because 286 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: most of the time, if I'm feeling that panic or 287 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to get quiet it with myself, it 288 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: is one of those things happening. And I have the 289 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: tools to go get one of those things, but I 290 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: don't necessarily naturally do it, Like what you were talking 291 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: about at the beginning of the podcast, just being kind 292 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: of bad at like being in touch with yourself. And 293 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: so it's really interesting and I love that you pointed 294 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: out the distractions are meant to do that to us, 295 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: Like we don't like we punish ourselves for the way 296 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: we live in this culture, but we're not necessarily like 297 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: giving the weight to social media being made to be addictive, 298 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: like all of those things and the quick instant gratification, 299 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: whereas when you're sitting with yourself you might have to 300 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: take a little bit of a second, like there's a pause. 301 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: There's not this like instant hit that we've become so 302 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: accustomed to getting. That's like so fascinating to me to 303 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: think about. Yeah, I think it's really important to remember that. 304 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: And the only other thing that I would add is 305 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: something that can be nice and say if it feels 306 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: supportive to you, because some people are going to hear 307 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: this and be like, yes, this is so motivating other 308 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: people and be like that is my worst nightmare. But 309 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: it's helpful to have some type of tracker or even 310 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: just like something in your notes app that says like 311 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I sat with myself today twenty seconds, or I made 312 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: some space for silence and this came up, so that 313 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: you can just see like, oh, this was really hard, 314 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: or even just track how you felt afterwards and notice 315 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: how at the beginning, you're saying, this was really difficult, 316 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: this was frustrating. I don't know if I'm good at this, 317 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: and then over time it's like, oh, this felt good. 318 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: It took less time for me to get into it, 319 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: because because the gratification is not instant, we have to 320 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: build feedback loops for ourselves to encourage ourselves to see 321 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: the progress that we're making. Yeah, well, that's such a 322 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: good point to put it down. It's like when you 323 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: were saying that this is the perfect transition into inner workout, 324 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: because you know, obviously we all have been accustomed to 325 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: thinking about our physical bodies, the way we look, the 326 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: way we present ourselves, and so working out physically has 327 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: been talked about forever. But I do feel like we've 328 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: kind of missed the mark on our insides. And so 329 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: it's really great people like you were writing books about this, 330 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: but you you've started a company called it or Workout, 331 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: and that's the name of your book as well. Um, 332 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: but when you were just describing even sitting with yourself, 333 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: like it was really hard for twenty seconds, But that's 334 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: exactly how it is when you physically start working out, too, 335 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: Like you're like, I can do five reps of that 336 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: and then then you can do six, then you can 337 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: do seven. So can you talk about the importance of 338 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: doing an inner workout or building that kind of stamina 339 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: even for the inner work Yeah, I love that. And 340 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: to extend that even further, it's like, sometimes sometimes it's 341 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: hard for you to do the one rep over time 342 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: you're at six, seven, twenty, depending on what it is. 343 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll ever be able to do ups, 344 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: but but maybe maybe something. But there's also you can 345 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: have a day. I think about this with yoga too, 346 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: Like certain times I can hit a peak pose in 347 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: yoga and then the next day you could ask me 348 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: to do the exact same pose and my body just 349 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: can't do it for whatever reason. And that can also 350 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: be true with our inner work as well. I think 351 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: that while it's great, and I've talked about the importance 352 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: of movement in my own journey, we can get really 353 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: focused on just the physical, but there's so much more 354 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: to us. And that's why I love the way that 355 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: we approach well being at Inner Workout as a company, 356 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: and then also in the book, so we talk about 357 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: five dimensions of well being, which are inspired by this 358 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: yoga contcept called the Koshas. So there's physical we're still 359 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: talking about the physical body, energetic, mental, and emotional wisdom 360 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: in bliss. And what I think is helpful about that 361 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: framework is that we can see where we might tend 362 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: to care for ourselves. Like for me, the longest time, 363 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: it was my physical body, but getting a massage was 364 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: not dealing with the fact that I wasn't happy in 365 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: some of the roles that I was in, or that 366 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: I didn't know myself. So I was showing up in 367 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: a really inauthentic way in conversation and relationship with others. 368 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to make the physical well being spill 369 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: over into every other aspect of my life. And while 370 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: it definitely helps my mental well being, it can't deal 371 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: with some of those things. And so it's the goal 372 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: is to have it be a balanced approach to caring 373 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: for yourself, so you're not putting such a heavy load 374 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: on the things that you're doing already expecting them to 375 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: be like this magical fairy dust that will fix every 376 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: part of your life. And also for me, it gives 377 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: me conversation to talk about, oh, something's happening energetically here, 378 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: or oh, maybe there's something going on in the Bliss 379 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: dimension I need to look into. I have a tattoo 380 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: that says Bliss on my wrist, and when I was 381 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: on your website, UM, I saw what you have as 382 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: the description for that pillar, and it says that this 383 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: dimension explores your connection to yourself and the world around you, 384 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: which completely I have a reason for this, obviously, but 385 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: it completely reshaped this tattoo for me because that is 386 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: exactly where I am in my own experience, is just 387 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: kind of in this navigating period of UM connecting to 388 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: myself but also just realizing how connected we all are 389 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: and how I can serve others in that capacity. UM, 390 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: can you break down some of those pillars a little 391 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: bit more, because I think it's so smart to look 392 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: at all of these areas, and like you said, I 393 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: think it's the way that we can connect to ourselves 394 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: and than others, because we're asking ourselves these questions, which 395 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: part of my well being is this? And which part 396 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: can I focus on or take action steps towards. Because 397 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: it's not just always physical, or it's not the things 398 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: we've been taught, which I think is why as a 399 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: culture we've gotten so sick or there's so much addiction, 400 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: or there's so much burnout and things like that because 401 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: we just don't know how to connect ourselves. So can 402 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about each pillar? Yes, I 403 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: would love to. Um. So let's start with physical. Okay, 404 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: each dimension has most have three, a couple have two subdimensions. 405 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: So physical is all about your relationship to your body. 406 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: It's not just moving your body and eating healthy, even 407 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: though obviously that can be encompassed in it. It's really 408 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: how well are you able to hear your body speaking 409 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: to you and to take action based on that. Within that, 410 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: so we have body awareness, we have body acceptance, and 411 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: then also embodiment, which means like how present are you 412 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: physically in your body, which a lot of us are, 413 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: like we're here, but even something I'm working on personally 414 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: is my posture, like I'm here doing work and I'm 415 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: somewhat aware that I'm in my body, but I'm also 416 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: really out of my body and sitting in this way 417 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: that's uncomfortable and causing back pain for me. Um. So, 418 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: then there's the energetic dimension, which looks at your breath quality, 419 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: and then also what we call energetic zones, which are 420 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: somewhat an interpretation of the chakras are breath from like 421 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: a very basic scientific standpoint, you can only not breathe 422 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: so long before you're not alive anymore. And the ways 423 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: that we breathe. Unless you did certain sports or played instruments, 424 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: you likely weren't taught how to breathe in the way 425 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: that is best for your body. And then the energetic 426 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: zones look at the ways energy is moving through your life. 427 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: So do you have relationships or emotions that are kind 428 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: of draining you without having something to replenish you and 429 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: fill you back up, Because if you're just leaking for 430 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: long enough, then that's another way to end up towards burnout. 431 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: The mental and emotional dimension is looking at what's coming 432 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: to into and flowing out of your brain, and that 433 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: has sleep, which people are often surprised, but sleep is 434 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: so important if you, I mean, this is real for 435 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: me right now. I just cut back from Paris yesterday 436 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of jet lagged, like my body is 437 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: unsure what to do, and thankfully I can regulate my emotions. 438 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: But sleep, if you, especially if you aren't doing anything 439 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: around your emotional regulation, lack of sleep can turn you 440 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: into a very unkind person. And emotions are another subdimension. 441 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: So can you acknowledge your emotions and process them and 442 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: then input what you put into your brain, which is 443 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: we kind of talked about this already, but the content 444 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: that you're consuming, even how you're consuming content, can change 445 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: your well being. Like I was pretty consistently posting on 446 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: TikTok for a while, and I'm not anymore because I've 447 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: realized that like what it was doing to my brain 448 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: and me being on TikTok so much just wasn't good 449 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: for me, so that I decided that was an input 450 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: that I didn't want to engage with as regularly. Um 451 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: and then in the wisdom dimension, that's where we have 452 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: self trust and aligned action, So accessing your inner wisdom 453 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: and then focus. I strongly believe that we are most 454 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: powerful when we're present. Our power exists like in the now, 455 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: in the present moment. The present moment is all that 456 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: we have, and when we are most have access to 457 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: our most wise self. It's when we're taking those moments 458 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: to be in the here and now, and then that 459 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: brings us to bliss, which is all about connection and 460 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: connection to yourself being. You are in an authentic way. 461 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: Connection to community. Self care isn't just a thing that 462 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: you do alone. It's a really heavy burden to bear 463 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: if you aren't in a community that's also supportive of you. 464 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: And then finally, connection to something bigger, whether that is 465 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: a spiritual practice or being in nature, but something where 466 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I am a part of this bigger 467 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: thing around me. Do we need that as humans? Because 468 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: I find the people I connect with tend to have 469 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: something like something bigger that they believe in whatever it is, 470 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: Like you said, it could be even nature. But how 471 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: important is that too? Humans? To have that mentality of like, 472 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: there's something bigger than me. It's so important. It gives 473 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: us purpose, It allows us to to be like less 474 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: of these internal I just finished reading this book um 475 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: The Extended Mind, and it's talking about how, for so 476 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: long and so long for us but relatively short in 477 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: the lifetime of humans, for the past several centuries, we've 478 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: gotten so focused on just our mind and thinking internally. 479 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: But really like, for the longest time, we were engaging 480 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: with nature, and we were engaging with each other in 481 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: something bigger than us. And when we do that, that's 482 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: how these amazing discoveries happen, and it is also, like 483 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: I was saying, how we can connect to our own purpose. 484 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: I am so much more excited. I just taught this 485 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: workshop for Inner Workout on Camp Clarity, and we talk 486 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: about building your mission, your vision, your values, and your 487 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: own definition of success. And when I am plugged into 488 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: those things for myself, what success is for me, what 489 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: vision I'm working towards in the world, I am so 490 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: fired up. It could be a thing I hate doing 491 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: in my job and in my business, but I see 492 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: how it fits into a bigger picture. And that's just 493 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: on the work level. So imagine if you had so 494 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: many humans across the world who were able to see you. 495 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: I am a small part of the whole. In every 496 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: day that I show up, I'm a part of something bigger. 497 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: It's it's transformational. Let's talk a little bit about Inner 498 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: Workout because I think there's a lot of different facets 499 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: to this business that I love. Um, you just mentioned 500 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: a workshop you lead, so tell us a little bit 501 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: about the company in general, and then let's break down 502 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the different parts of it. Yeah. So, really, Inner Workout, 503 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: our goal is to support people in their journey to 504 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: no care for and become their full selves, and so 505 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: we do that in some ways. We also have a 506 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: podcast called Inner warm Up, which we say it's where 507 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: your inner work begins. And um we have a weekly 508 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: newsletter called Self Care Sundays, and those are just like 509 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: our regular touchpoints where we're providing reflection, questions and opportunities 510 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: for you to listen to yourself. So outside of those 511 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: things which are always free, oh, I guess, we also 512 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: have our take Care Assessment, which, if as I was 513 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: describing all of those things, you're like, that sounds like 514 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: a lot. We break them down in the book. You 515 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: also can always take the free assessment, whether or not 516 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: you want to buy the book that it's seventy questions 517 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: and it will show you a breakdown of where you're 518 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: at on each of the dimensions and subdimensions, and it 519 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: gives you three personalized practices based on your results. So 520 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: that's something I do. UM, I do like every quarter 521 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: just to be like, Okay, what's changed, what's see the same? 522 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: So those are are forever free things. Uh. We have 523 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: workshops almost every month and those tend to focus on 524 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: a topic related to one of the dimensions of well 525 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: being and they're always really in her active I think 526 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: one of the best pieces of value that people get 527 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: out of it. It's just it's a time on their 528 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: calendar where they know, when I do this, I'm showing 529 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: up for myself to do the inner work. The same 530 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: way that it's sometimes really motivating two go put even 531 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: if sometimes it's better if it's a more expensive class 532 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: like a workout class, and you're like, I'm gonna show 533 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: up for this. It's like that, but for your inner work. Um, 534 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: we have our subscription or membership, the Inner Circle that's 535 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: five dollars a month and you get like the secret 536 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: newsletter with a bunch of recommendations. I hope it's pretty 537 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: clear by now that I don't think you need self 538 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: care products, but it is sometimes nice to have products 539 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: support your experience. So we have products, articles, all kinds 540 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: of things from across the internet that we recommend. And 541 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: then you also get a discount on all of our workshops. 542 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: And then outside of that, I work with a lot 543 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: of organizations and I'll come in and speak and what 544 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: am I missing? All The last thing is are coaching programs. 545 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: So begin Within is a four month coaching program that 546 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: I really like it because you start with talking about 547 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: self care and support, and you go through the three 548 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: phases of doing inner work, So we look at what 549 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: you need to unlearn, what new things do you need 550 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: to learn about whatever you want that's next, whether it's 551 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: a new career or starting a business or being in 552 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: a different relationship with yourself, and then support for that growth, 553 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: because entering a new season of your life can feel 554 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: really shaking, really unsteady. So I love supporting people through that. 555 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: And there's kind of some group elements and some individual 556 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: elements of that program. So I think that's everything that 557 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: sounds amazing. I love that it all ties back into 558 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: inner warm Up, Inner work Out, like all of the 559 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: inner stuff. I love that the book comes out in March. 560 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: So can you tell us a little more about what 561 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: people can find in the book. Yeah, I'm really excited 562 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: because I started this work personally, I started talking about 563 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: it more publicly probably, and then the whole first chapter 564 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: of the book is based on a keynote that I 565 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: started giving in twenty nineteen. So it's been so many 566 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: years in the making and learning from myself and then 567 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: also learning as I've gotten to work with people in 568 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: the Inner Workout community and so the book really takes 569 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: the assessment, and it's to choose your own adventure. So 570 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: you can always come back to it and you can 571 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: read it front to back, or you can take the 572 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: assessment and realize, oh, I've got some work to do, 573 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: and the Bliss dimension, let me start there. And every 574 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: section has a little essay on my own experiences with 575 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: that um, with that dimension or sub dimension. And then 576 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: also I'm I'm a very left brained and right brained person, 577 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: so I will probably research some statistics or reference some 578 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: statistics or studies. In addition to having like pop culture references, 579 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: there's song recommendations for each dimension of well being. There's 580 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: practices that you can try. There's lots and lots of 581 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: journaling prompts. So I hope it feels like a conversation 582 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: with me that leads you to have a conversation with 583 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: yourself and really really practical. That's like the number one 584 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: pieces of feedback I get on anything in our workout 585 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: is like this is so practical. And then also like 586 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: it feels like I can do this right now. I 587 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: don't have to become someone else to be like good 588 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: enough to do this type of work. Yeah, I was 589 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,239 Speaker 1: thinking that as you were talking about everything you can 590 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: find on the website is because I think a lot 591 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: of times when people start are realizing, hey, my self 592 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: care isn't great, or I'm spiraling, I'm going into burnout 593 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: all of those things, they don't know where to start. 594 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: And so it feels like you have a lot of 595 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: resources that can kind of give you been a baby 596 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: step when you want to start dabbling in this kind 597 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: of stuff and help you navigate what it is that 598 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 1: could help you specifically like very in tune with each 599 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: person and each dimension and all of these things. So 600 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: I love it. Um, I will link all of the book, 601 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: the podcast, all of those things into the description of 602 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: this this podcast. But Taylor, where else can people find 603 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: you if they want to work with you more or 604 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: just find out more information about Inner Workout? Yeah, so 605 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: Inner Workouts website is Inner Workout dot ceo, not dot com, 606 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: and um we Inner Workout as a company. Kind of 607 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: along the lines of what we were talking about on 608 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: social media. We are on Instagram at Inner Workout. We 609 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: don't post super regularly. I personally have an Instagram at 610 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Elise Morrison eleas is with a Y. I post 611 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: in stories I don't really post consistently on my feed, 612 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: and then I also have a personal website, Taylor at 613 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: lease dot com. Um. Yeah, so those are all the 614 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: places that you can find in a workout, and then 615 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: find me on my personal stuff. I talk a little 616 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: bit more about business and writing, So if you're interested 617 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: in more of those types of things in addition to 618 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: self care, follow me on my channels. If you're looking 619 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 1: for purely self care and personal development in a workout's 620 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: got your back there. Okay, thank you so much for 621 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: sharing all this with us. I'm actually already subscribed, so 622 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: you guys go check it out. And um I, like 623 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: I said, I'll link everything in a description of the 624 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: podcast and be on the lookout for the book in March. Taylor, 625 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. 626 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: This was such a treat.