Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay Up Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Recording from the Home Bunker, So, folks.
Speaker 1: Three hundred documents classified, Special Program classified. A sternly worded
Speaker 1: letter from the National Archives Acting Archives to Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: attorney about the fifteen boxes that were retrieved from Mara
Speaker 1: Lago after the FBI went in to search the premises
Speaker 1: for property that belongs to the United States. Come to
Speaker 1: find out, dear friends, that Donald Trump, the man who
Speaker 1: doesn't fucking read and couldn't sit down for his own
Speaker 1: intelligence briefings when he was the godforsaken president of these
Speaker 1: United States, seems to have been going through these three
Speaker 1: hundred documents all by his little lonesome. And the question
Speaker 1: that I have is, what the fuck do you think
Speaker 1: everyone everyone is waiting for in order to indict Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Let's piece together a couple of things, shall we. When
Speaker 1: Jared Kushner left the White House after the disgrace twice
Speaker 1: impeached President was voted out of office in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: he received a very large, very large cash infusion to
Speaker 1: his business by Mohammed bin Salam, you know, the murderer
Speaker 1: responsible for killing Washington Post journalist Jamal Kashogi. This would
Speaker 1: also be the man Joe Biden fist bumped when he
Speaker 1: went to Saudi Arabia in order to you know, open
Speaker 1: up oil reserves so that American gas prices could go down,
Speaker 1: because you know, who cares about murderers anyway, when we're
Speaker 1: talking about capitalism and gas. Kushner received two billion dollars,
Speaker 1: not two million, not even two hundred million, two billion
Speaker 1: dollars from Mohammed bin Salam, a known murderer. We know
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump loves to keep the company of dictators, fascists, authoritarians,
Speaker 1: and that while he was president of the United States,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was given access to things that that criminal
Speaker 1: motherfucker should have never had access to. We also know
Speaker 1: that they're one of the reasons, many reasons why Donald
Speaker 1: Trump didn't release his tax returns and still fighting in
Speaker 1: the courts to never release his tax returns. Is one,
Speaker 1: donald Trump is not as rich as he claims to be. Two,
Speaker 1: he doesn't pay taxes. Three He's in a lot of
Speaker 1: fucking debt and not like we need to cancel student
Speaker 1: loan type of debt, but talking about like into the
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars worth of debt. We know
Speaker 1: that the company that Donald Trump keeps is not the greatest.
Speaker 1: So what Donald Trump saw in those documents that he
Speaker 1: couldn't bother have been being briefed on when he was
Speaker 1: president of the United States is only one thing dollar
Speaker 1: signs Donald Trump is a treasonous traitor to the United States.
Speaker 1: Contrary to what Republicans are trying to sell the American
Speaker 1: people about, Oh, this was no big deal, is the
Speaker 1: fact that it is probably one of the biggest deals
Speaker 1: that we've ever seen. So much so that the normal
Speaker 1: quiet National Archives, which, by the way, if you've never
Speaker 1: gone to Washington, DC and visited the National Archives, I
Speaker 1: highly recommend it. If you were a nerd like myself,
Speaker 1: which I believe that most of you are, the National
Speaker 1: Archives as well as the Library of Congress, well pieces
Speaker 1: that are resistance you should go and visit. But this
Speaker 1: place that you oftentimes never hear about unless you're in
Speaker 1: history class or on a tour in Washington, DC had
Speaker 1: to send a sternly worded letter to Donald Trump's one
Speaker 1: of his goon lawyers saying that no, we're not going
Speaker 1: to hold off on sending these boxes which we had
Speaker 1: requested over a year ago to the FBI. We're not
Speaker 1: going to be in the way and cause our selves
Speaker 1: to be an obstacle to an open and ongoing investigation. Now,
Speaker 1: my question is, like I said at the top, is
Speaker 1: when the fuck are we going to start to see
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's list of indictments come down? Because here's what
Speaker 1: we know to be true. The FBI has now had
Speaker 1: those documents in their possession for the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: We know that there are thousands and thousands of pages
Speaker 1: fifteen boxes, you know, three hundred pages of highly classified documents,
Speaker 1: right that were just like being held in Marlago and
Speaker 1: a storage shed so that whenever Donald Trump had time
Speaker 1: in between buffets and tea time that he could then what,
Speaker 1: go down there and maybe scan a couple of documents,
Speaker 1: maybe send off some Right, this man is a criminal,
Speaker 1: and we know that Donald Trump doesn't hold on to
Speaker 1: anything that he doesn't find monetary value in. That includes people.
Speaker 1: So the reality here is I'm assuming that outside of
Speaker 1: whiteness and privilege and maleness and wealth and all of
Speaker 1: these things, that all the reasons why the bar for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is so fucking high in order to be
Speaker 1: able to prove what we all know to be true,
Speaker 1: and for people who have lived in New York City
Speaker 1: who have always known to be true, is that the
Speaker 1: man is a goddamn criminal. But the question I think
Speaker 1: that is really taking time is trying to figure out
Speaker 1: whether or not America is actually safe, because you see,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump had nuclear codes, Donald Trump knows where certain
Speaker 1: intelligence agents are. All of this kind of information you
Speaker 1: receive in regular briefings, and I'm certain or in those
Speaker 1: boxes that were in Mara Lago. The National Archives knew
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump had those when he left the White
Speaker 1: House back in January twenty twenty one. They only received
Speaker 1: some of them back in January twenty twenty two, an
Speaker 1: entire fucking year later. So basically, what I believe to
Speaker 1: be true is that the Department of Justice is trying
Speaker 1: to suff out exactly how damaged our national security is
Speaker 1: because of Donald Trump, so that they're going to be
Speaker 1: able to hold this motherfucker accountable. Now, the question keeps
Speaker 1: being asked, well, what about political violence, what about the
Speaker 1: MAGA world? And how they will flip out and tear
Speaker 1: this comfetry apart? Folks, They're already doing that. Republicans are
Speaker 1: already doing that. So this whole like, oh, it's in
Speaker 1: the best interests of the country to do what Let
Speaker 1: a criminal keep criming, right, not set the precedent that
Speaker 1: no one, including the President of the United States, is
Speaker 1: above the law, so that when a Ron de Santist
Speaker 1: takes into office potentially in twenty twenty five, that this
Speaker 1: motherfucker doesn't just use Donald Trump as the blueprint to
Speaker 1: create his own evil plan. If we do not hold
Speaker 1: this man to account, then my god, what I've been
Speaker 1: saying for the last six goddamn years, what comes next
Speaker 1: is going to be worse than our worse nightmare. So
Speaker 1: TikTok Merrick Garland tick, motherfucking talk time is of the essence.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, dear friends, we chat with our in
Speaker 1: house doctor, our friend, doctor Jonathan Metzel, and we're going
Speaker 1: to be talking about doctor Fauci's announcement that he will
Speaker 1: be leaving his post after several decades and several presidents
Speaker 1: that he has been working under. What kind of legacy
Speaker 1: he leaves behind, and also what kind of messaging should
Speaker 1: we have with regard to the double whammy of public
Speaker 1: health concerns and the climate crisis that we are facing
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Speaker 1: whenever I have the opportunity to speak with our good,
Speaker 1: good friend, our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Methsol, I'm
Speaker 1: always thrilled, and so today, Jonathan, let's start off with
Speaker 1: the fact that, well before we jump into our mid
Speaker 1: terms conversation, doctor Fauci is going to be leaving the
Speaker 1: Biden administration, leaving his public position that he has had
Speaker 1: under I believe seven presidents. Folks were showing him throughout
Speaker 1: the years on cable news, and my god, what a
Speaker 1: career doctor Fauci has had. I just wanted to give
Speaker 1: you an opportunity to provide thoughts on him. He says
Speaker 1: he's not retiring, but he is leaving his position. To
Speaker 1: give thoughts on the last couple of years under Fauci.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a career, right, you know, imagine being
Speaker 1: a doctor who basically joins the US version of the
Speaker 1: National Health Service in your late twenties, which is what
Speaker 1: he did, and then is at the front of, like
Speaker 1: I mean, like some of the most contentious, heated, charged
Speaker 1: and also important and life saving initiatives that a public
Speaker 1: health service can face. I think that doctor Fauci, as
Speaker 1: many people know, was basically in charge of the government's
Speaker 1: response to the HIV epidemic, and initially with somebody who
Speaker 1: towed the party line. And I think, you know, I
Speaker 1: think the Fauci basically changing his mind about the ways
Speaker 1: that drugs should be made available to people was one
Speaker 1: of the more remarkable about faces in American medical history.
Speaker 1: The idea that basically he said, hey, look, I'm representing
Speaker 1: an establishment. We have a process that touts testing the
Speaker 1: safety of medications by testing them for years, but people
Speaker 1: are dying right now. And the fact that he, after
Speaker 1: I think a very initially horrible period, made some kind
Speaker 1: of alliance with Act UP protesters and change the way
Speaker 1: that drugs are distributed just really honestly saved a lot
Speaker 1: of lives, and it took a kind of flexibility of
Speaker 1: purpose that I think is incredibly rare in public service
Speaker 1: right now. The fact that he basically didn't about and
Speaker 1: changed the ways drugs are tested and distributed in this
Speaker 1: country in response to that. Not that it was easy,
Speaker 1: not that he was always right, but the fact that
Speaker 1: he admitted he was wrong, I think really is a
Speaker 1: pretty remarkable chapter in the history of health and illness
Speaker 1: and America. I don't know how many people would want
Speaker 1: to be charge in charge of the COVID response under Trump.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that that was a very fun job
Speaker 1: for somebody who's in their eighties and nearing retirement. But
Speaker 1: there as well, I think, you know, I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: there's there's going to be a lot of opinions. We're
Speaker 1: still in the middle of the pandemic, but imagine the
Speaker 1: hand you're dealt, Like, here's a new pathogen, that humanity
Speaker 1: has no immunity against, and we don't know quite yet
Speaker 1: what the treatments are, and we don't know quite how
Speaker 1: lethal this thing is. And we have a president who's
Speaker 1: not interested in science at all, and so kind of
Speaker 1: overseeing that I think as a kind of bookend to
Speaker 1: a career is pretty remarkable. Now, if Republicans take over Congress,
Speaker 1: I shudder to think about what they're going to do
Speaker 1: to that legacy. But I would say that we should
Speaker 1: be lucky enough to have public servants among us who
Speaker 1: are that dedicated for and that competent for such a
Speaker 1: long time. You know, I just want to ask you,
Speaker 1: doctor Fauci, to me, you know, regardless of the ups
Speaker 1: and downs that we've had over almost three years living
Speaker 1: with multiple variations of COVID, I think exemplify to your
Speaker 1: point what it means to be a public servant, what
Speaker 1: it means to actually want to serve the public, particularly
Speaker 1: during a time of crisis. And I think that you know,
Speaker 1: a majority of Americans, a majority, a strong majority of
Speaker 1: Americans are very grateful to doctor Fauci and the work
Speaker 1: that he did, exemplified by the magazine covers that he
Speaker 1: was on the conversations that he had in so many days.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had the good the pleasure of interviewing
Speaker 1: him on woke F And I just want to ask you, like,
Speaker 1: what do you think, you know, if America survives another
Speaker 1: five ten years, what do you think that his legacy
Speaker 1: will be well? I think I think hopefully. It's the
Speaker 1: things we're talking about now again. I mean, the issue
Speaker 1: right is that there's always a danger of somebody hanging
Speaker 1: on too long. As great as RBG was, she did
Speaker 1: not do us any favors by hanging on too long
Speaker 1: after a pancreatic cancer diagnosis that had a five year
Speaker 1: survival with total admiration and respect for her accomplishments and
Speaker 1: her memory. You know, we're facing a conversation right now
Speaker 1: about Biden and so leaving on top I think is
Speaker 1: really important for people who are in positions of power
Speaker 1: and authority. And it feels to me like vout she
Speaker 1: is kind of going out on top. I mean, the
Speaker 1: pandemic is probably right now. I don't hold this against me,
Speaker 1: but it feels right now like it's more manageable than
Speaker 1: it's been in three years. And and I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot to be said and I can see, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like this is somebody who's held on
Speaker 1: too long. Now again, I think the main issue is
Speaker 1: and I thought everybody, including President Obama, had a lovely
Speaker 1: tweet about the honor of serving with doctor Fausci. But again,
Speaker 1: if there are Republican hearings and he's dragged in front
Speaker 1: of a sub committee and talk about you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: if if I were him, I just wouldn't show up,
Speaker 1: right like at this point, like I I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I just I just wouldn't come. We know what Republicans
Speaker 1: would be doing. This would not be a thumb in
Speaker 1: the face to government. It's just like I'm not going
Speaker 1: to participate in your circus. So you know, I like,
Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, if I were him, I'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I pieced out. So you all can manage this
Speaker 1: unless you enforce a subpoena. I mean, I think what
Speaker 1: we're going to see is the power of the China
Speaker 1: virus narrative is if the Republicans take over the House,
Speaker 1: it's going to become one of the dominant stories is mandates.
Speaker 1: Um people are already I mean, when you see people
Speaker 1: turning against Trump, toward De Santists right now, it's because
Speaker 1: of public health. I don't think people fully realize that.
Speaker 1: Um But I think that when when you see people saying, well,
Speaker 1: Trump was the person who did the did the mask
Speaker 1: mandate or even force people to stay home for a
Speaker 1: couple of months or schools or things like that, people
Speaker 1: like even like Joe Rogan on down people who are
Speaker 1: turning on Trump toward de Santists or because Desantists paid
Speaker 1: no attention to public health whatsoever, to the detriment of
Speaker 1: the lives of the people in his state. Data is
Speaker 1: pretty clear about that. UM. So, I think public health
Speaker 1: is politicized, and I think, you know, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: you know, he's He's part part of that in a way,
Speaker 1: and that's just kind of the what we're in right now.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I know it. I mean, like
Speaker 1: I've been so critical of people who don't show up
Speaker 1: to talk to the January sixth Commission, But but I
Speaker 1: do think that again, this is why, thinking now about
Speaker 1: the midterms, it's so important that people vote right now
Speaker 1: because I guess the question is, do you want two
Speaker 1: years plus of hearings about Hunter Biden and about the
Speaker 1: China virus and about all this other stuff, or do
Speaker 1: you want you know, hearings about climate change and student
Speaker 1: debt and inflation and gas prices and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I just think we have a pretty real choice
Speaker 1: coming up that has to do the links to this
Speaker 1: topic in some pretty important ways. You know. One of
Speaker 1: the things that I have been asked about, and I'm
Speaker 1: certain that you've been asked about recently on television and
Speaker 1: in the interviews that you do, is, you know, is
Speaker 1: around what do you think are driving people to the polls?
Speaker 1: And I personally believe that it is like we're not
Speaker 1: living in single issued times, right, And you know, as
Speaker 1: Audrey Lord that said, we don't live single issue lives, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that one of the machinations of politics
Speaker 1: that I hate is that there is no complexity, there
Speaker 1: is no layering. It's like we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: climate change only when things are on fire or underwater.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about abortion only when it's taken away, right,
Speaker 1: Like we're not linking these issues together. And so when
Speaker 1: you talk about public health, right as as as a
Speaker 1: public health advocate, as somebody who is a doctor and
Speaker 1: is in this work, what do you think if you
Speaker 1: were to create, you know, and contextualize messaging that would
Speaker 1: have people understand really what public health is and how
Speaker 1: it is important to their day to day lives. As
Speaker 1: we are making, you know, this march to midterms, what
Speaker 1: would that be? Jonathan Well, I can think of three
Speaker 1: things that are important to know about public health before
Speaker 1: I get into political messaging. But one, of course, is
Speaker 1: that public health does not value free. Public health has
Speaker 1: in the past had policies and outcomes that were incredibly
Speaker 1: disparate by race and socioeconomic class. Public health has instilled
Speaker 1: treatments from sterilization to you know, locking up quote unquote
Speaker 1: imbeciles and things like that in asylums. So public health
Speaker 1: has always been in any ways embedded in American culture.
Speaker 1: And so I always think that critiques of public health
Speaker 1: are very important because public health is not value free,
Speaker 1: and it's important to take a critical lens of that.
Speaker 1: As again I was saying doctor Fauci did during HIV
Speaker 1: and said, wait, man, we're getting this totally wrong. And
Speaker 1: so it's not like, oh, here's some marble monolith called
Speaker 1: public health that is unassailable and in ways the way
Speaker 1: like medicine has done for example. So one is public
Speaker 1: health is of the culture, and I think critiques of
Speaker 1: public health are always going to be important to its function.
Speaker 1: The second is that public health has often handed problems
Speaker 1: that nobody knows the answer too. Yet. You know, I
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends in the CDC, and the
Speaker 1: who and the problems they get are like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: there's a bacterial born food illness, but we have no
Speaker 1: idea where it's coming from. And then they have to
Speaker 1: go test every kind of food and track down what
Speaker 1: people have eaten and where they shop and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So they're hearing your problems that are not teleological, right,
Speaker 1: They're they're not the end is not known from the beginning,
Speaker 1: and so in a way it's very easy to critique
Speaker 1: public health because then you're like, of course, of course
Speaker 1: you made people wear masks, of course you held people
Speaker 1: out of school, But at the time those answers are
Speaker 1: not very clear, and so the question is kind of,
Speaker 1: how can we save the most people until we until
Speaker 1: we get an answer for this, And I think that's
Speaker 1: another important thing. And then the third, of course, is
Speaker 1: it's not medicine. It's not giving you a treatment. So
Speaker 1: the main tool that public health has is prevention, right,
Speaker 1: and so you have to ask yourself, are the risks
Speaker 1: of getting the vaccine worse than the risks of getting
Speaker 1: the monkeypox or covid or polio or whatever. And so
Speaker 1: prevention is so important because it's it's so much it's
Speaker 1: so speculative, right, It's so much like, Okay, I think
Speaker 1: it's worse to get this thing injected. I just got
Speaker 1: my COVID booster. I feel fine, But I'm going to
Speaker 1: be teaching this semester, and I'm going to be teaching
Speaker 1: in front of a lot of students. And so I
Speaker 1: was thinking about it on the way over that you're
Speaker 1: really you're really kind of thinking in advance in a
Speaker 1: way it takes. And so thinking in advance about it
Speaker 1: and imagined threat is different from like, here's some penicillin
Speaker 1: for your illness right now, right, And so there's a
Speaker 1: level of kind of speculation in the way public health
Speaker 1: functions that requires a leap of faith. And I think, again,
Speaker 1: because it's so political, not everyone has that, and that's
Speaker 1: very contested terrain. So those are my three off the
Speaker 1: top of my head points about public health, but I
Speaker 1: think they're important for people to keep in mind, because
Speaker 1: it's not an exact science, and so what you want
Speaker 1: is you want to trust really in the system. And
Speaker 1: so if you were crafting the messaging then around public health,
Speaker 1: for instance, being on the ballot from midterms, what would
Speaker 1: you be saying, Well, it used to be pretty easy, right,
Speaker 1: It was a progress narrative, right, right, So other countries
Speaker 1: were dying of polio. We had two scientists who invented
Speaker 1: polio vaccines. We had smallpox, we had antibiotics, all these things.
Speaker 1: So America is a national leader. It's a pride, you know.
Speaker 1: So that that that used to be very very easy
Speaker 1: in a way, and I think right now, of course,
Speaker 1: it's much more complicated. Um, I do think there's still
Speaker 1: a lot of I think there's a lot of fear
Speaker 1: about the next pandemic or the next next infection, or
Speaker 1: the next thing like that. So I would I guess
Speaker 1: my what would work on me, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if it work on everybody else. Is like, we don't
Speaker 1: want to be caught unprepared for the next thing that
Speaker 1: comes down the pike, and and so like kind of
Speaker 1: fear of the unknown and being prepared for it would
Speaker 1: be my personal strategy, But I'm not a political messaging person,
Speaker 1: but I would say that I just know so many
Speaker 1: people who are like, it's not just about the next variant,
Speaker 1: it's like the next pandemic or something. Let's not get
Speaker 1: caught behind the eight ball again. I mean, the CDC
Speaker 1: has already admitted that its response was was not right,
Speaker 1: and so I think I think that you know, let's
Speaker 1: let's invest in our future would be my message. But
Speaker 1: I don't know you can ask like m Rachel or
Speaker 1: somebody who who can tweak that into like a thing,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the one. As you're as you're talking,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking about, you know, how we've had COVID,
Speaker 1: how now monkey pops, and the correlation between our climate
Speaker 1: change crisis that we're living in and public health crises.
Speaker 1: And I wonder, like, do we talk enough, Jonathan about
Speaker 1: the correlation of these things. The fact that because you know,
Speaker 1: we are going to have longer, hotter summers that you know,
Speaker 1: stretch all the way through what was fall into winter,
Speaker 1: that we have, you know, an increase in mosquitoes right
Speaker 1: and West Nile and these things that we're not making
Speaker 1: the connection between how the climate crisis and these you know,
Speaker 1: waterborne airborne viruses are going to become prevalent. It's not
Speaker 1: going to be every hundred years, right, It's going to
Speaker 1: be every two and you know that. I mean, my
Speaker 1: other tip for our listeners today is stock up on
Speaker 1: coat COVID tests right now, because the government just stopped
Speaker 1: funding them. And so it's it's not theoretical like we're
Speaker 1: going to be not prepared if there's a wave in
Speaker 1: the fall because we're not making COVID tests in this
Speaker 1: country right now because we didn't get the funding from
Speaker 1: Congress because the GOP blocked it. So if you're at
Speaker 1: extra cash five five boxes of COVID tests right now,
Speaker 1: you're you maybe you won't need them, but if you do,
Speaker 1: you'll be happy to have them in the fall. So
Speaker 1: it's not like theoretical like that kind of thing is
Speaker 1: happening right now. We're not funding we're basically making the
Speaker 1: same mistake we did before COVID. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: part of me wants to say education, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: the education system is being gutted, like scientific concepts vire
Speaker 1: a level of speculative nuanced thinking, and if you're in
Speaker 1: a class that's being taught by the wife of a
Speaker 1: of a military veteran who has not had any teaching
Speaker 1: experience whatsoever except for being able to say the pledge
Speaker 1: of allegiance, which I guess is the criteria. Then you're
Speaker 1: then we're just we're gonna have an uneducated populace, which
Speaker 1: I think is a danger for imagining speculative threats like this,
Speaker 1: and of course distilling information from disinformation, all those factors.
Speaker 1: So I do think there are a lot of factors
Speaker 1: at play right now that I don't know. Don't get
Speaker 1: me started on education. No, but that that's a bit
Speaker 1: because because for me though that and as you were talking,
Speaker 1: I was just like, I felt my blood boiling. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, because the point is to have an ignorant populace, right,
Speaker 1: because ignorant people are easy to control, Like we're you know,
Speaker 1: case and point, every single one of Trump's followers. But
Speaker 1: you know that, I think that what is troubling me
Speaker 1: is that because we have politicized science and then with
Speaker 1: COVID politicized health, that we're not even teaching it to
Speaker 1: a way to your point that allows people to have nuance.
Speaker 1: There is no nuance, right, Like the advent of social media,
Speaker 1: there's no, you know, there's no nuance and what people
Speaker 1: are saying, there's no context that we are that we
Speaker 1: are understanding. I remember learning about what a hypothesis was
Speaker 1: right and education hated guests and why is it an
Speaker 1: educated guests versus just you know, something out of the blue.
Speaker 1: And I feel like the attack on critical thinking, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: I think is going to be our demise, right because
Speaker 1: if you are just having the wife or the husband
Speaker 1: of said military you know, a veteran or you know,
Speaker 1: active military person come into a classroom to teach third graders,
Speaker 1: which to me I remember as a critical time for
Speaker 1: like science in school and and and they're reading along
Speaker 1: with you and have no you know, no understanding, no schooling.
Speaker 1: Like honestly, without us going on a tangent, what do
Speaker 1: you think that that does to our future of being
Speaker 1: quote unquote leaders in public health and science and innovative
Speaker 1: innovation spaces. I mean, I don't need to speculator. It
Speaker 1: was even much better, much better than what we have now.
Speaker 1: But I studied education cuts to Kansas for my book
Speaker 1: Dying of Whitenes, and I found that just two years
Speaker 1: of education cuts and lowered teacher standards. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what this military thing is. They don't want to pay
Speaker 1: people for teaching. They don't want to pay the credentialing.
Speaker 1: It's it's just lowering the standards. And you know, having
Speaker 1: somebody who's trained as a teacher is going to be
Speaker 1: a better teacher than someone who's looking at truth social
Speaker 1: during their break to figure out what, you know, what
Speaker 1: a question is. And so what I found in Kansas,
Speaker 1: Kansas had the number six education system in the country
Speaker 1: for public schools. The public schools were incredible and it
Speaker 1: was It was useful in so many ways, including creating
Speaker 1: an educated workforce for the state, which led to innovation, technology, productivity, finance,
Speaker 1: everything like that. Like having a great public school system
Speaker 1: in Kansas, which took seventy years to build, was great
Speaker 1: for the state in all of these unintended and invisible ways.
Speaker 1: And then Sam Brownbeck took over and they viscerated the
Speaker 1: school system and within three years they were in the
Speaker 1: mid forties for math and science and reading exams for
Speaker 1: fourth and eighth graders, and the entire productivity of the
Speaker 1: state really fell off the map because all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they didn't have people. It wasn't just like people
Speaker 1: out there spouting off critical race theory. They didn't have
Speaker 1: people who understood how to develop new technologies for farm equipment,
Speaker 1: they didn't have people who knew how to do banking,
Speaker 1: all these kind of things. And so in a way,
Speaker 1: what it created was a kind of two tier system
Speaker 1: where poor people became trade workers they went to public school,
Speaker 1: and which people bought themselves out and they were the
Speaker 1: kind of noble elites who could go get the knowledge.
Speaker 1: And so in a way, what it did is it
Speaker 1: just reaffied all of these social divisions. And again it
Speaker 1: was horrible, horrible for the state. Because the state had
Speaker 1: an in house supply of educated workers, it didn't have
Speaker 1: to import them, and it was great for the finance
Speaker 1: of the state. And so when I see this in Florida,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm sat on so many levels. Um,
Speaker 1: but it really is it's really a catastrophe for the
Speaker 1: future innovation and development and finance in that state. Oh, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: we will have are on fire today. All make it all,
Speaker 1: make it all the bad connections between everything wrong? Does
Speaker 1: Rooster's gone to my head? I love it now, But see,
Speaker 1: I I mean, I don't think and you know, I'll
Speaker 1: end here today is that I really do not think
Speaker 1: that people are paying enough attention to what Ron de
Speaker 1: Santis is doing in Florida and how he he is
Speaker 1: corrupting the education system, how he's corrupting the voting system,
Speaker 1: how he is really setting Florida on a path um
Speaker 1: to the bottom, on a you know, on a on
Speaker 1: a race to the bottom. And what that is going
Speaker 1: to do as one of you know, the most populous
Speaker 1: states you know in this country. What it's going to
Speaker 1: do to us as a collective, um, I think is
Speaker 1: going to be um, you know everything that you you
Speaker 1: just said, times ten? All right, Jonathan, Well we will
Speaker 1: have to leave it there with your boosted brilliance today.
Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate you. I'll get another booster every
Speaker 1: week so we can appreciate you. That is it for
Speaker 1: me today, dear friends, on woke A app as always,
Speaker 1: power to the people and to all the people. Power,
Speaker 1: Get woke and stay woke as fuck.