1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Ronan, Well, the reason for the oil leak is because 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: such and such a part which they didn't really name, 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: was installed upside down, but we turned it right side 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: up and now the parts installed correctly. Yeah, the car Doctor, 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: we don't get poled again. Tell them to name the part. 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to know what part in stalled upside down 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: is going to make a valve cover gas at leak 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: and then magically corrected when it's not installed upside down? Like? 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Welcome to the radio home of ron 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Andanian the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage. Orders are open, 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls. At eight 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: five and now he running. Hey, welcome, stop by. Thanks 16 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: stopping by the garage. Today. We're gonna talk about it all. 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the six to six Shelby that 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: we fixed. We're gonna talk about the two thousand seven 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: Honda that we put a timing belt on, and everything 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: in between. We're also going to talk about four escape 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: that somebody in Indiana just couldn't get a battery incorrectly. 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about how we save that car, but 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: you know what, Let's kick the garage doors open and 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: get going, because I see the line is long already. 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Larry and Orlando two thousand Chevy 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: suburban and I'll see what's going on here. Larry, Ron 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: and Ay And at your service, sir, how can help 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: terrific to speak with you Ron, and thank you so 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: much for your wonderful show. We have a two thousand 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Chevrolet Suburban with two hundred and seventy five thousand miles 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: in excellent shape. The wife was stopped in very heavy 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: traffic down here about a week ago, and the radiator 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: core itself spraying a small weak which makes the car 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: on dry over, but it's in very good shape. Otherwise. 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: We want to replace the radiator, the water pump, the 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: uh thermostat, and the fan clutch and anything else you 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: might suggest. But I specifically had just two issues. I 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: was wondering if I could get your tremendous focus on one. 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: In looking to locate the very specific car specific replacement parts, 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: we run into just a little bit of a conundrum 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: in that the main Chevrolet customer service number is absolutely 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: no help in just trying to get the actual A C. 43 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: DELCO O E M parts, and Uh, they're only suggested 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: was to have the car told to a dealership and 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: have them diagnosed it and try to get their help 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: to identify the parts. The second question was, Uh, there 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: seems to be some kind of a code sheet or 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: build sheet for the car, but we haven't been able 49 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: to locate it. We also wanted just to ask your 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: thoughts whether OSC radios were okay and get your general 51 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: suggestions if you might have time on the replacement of 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: the radiator and the water pump, particularly removing the small 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: clips that are on the lines where the transmission lines 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: look in to the radiator with the O ring is 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: everything we're talking about here, Larry, original original water pump, 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: original thermostat, radiator, it's never been touched. Okay, so listen, 57 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna call it what it is. We're gonna overhaul 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: the cooling system two thou miles. It's almost broken in 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: its time, so yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be radiator, 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: water pump, thermostat, upper and lower hoses, even if the 61 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: upper and lower hoses were done five years ago, do 62 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: them get it over with. I mean the trucks, the 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: trucks twenty years old. Alright, you want to do a 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: coolant exchange if you can get it, If you can 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: find somebody with an exchanger and have the cooling exchange 66 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: this way, all the old stuffs out, all the fresh 67 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: stuff is in. All right, I'll answer your yeah, if 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: you can, and if you can still get them in 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: two thousand, I'm not I'm trying to remember what they 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: looked like. If they might be something very specific or 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: particular in a way that they split off. Does the 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: vehicle have rear a C and he does so. The 73 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: heater hoses might have a branch te off at the back. 74 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: And I've seen the aftermarket version. It's okay. If you 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: can still get an original GM piece out of Delco 76 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: where it's gonna have the mold, it ends, and everything's 77 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: gonna fit and work nice. Do it, you know, do 78 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: it now before the part disappears. I overhauld the cooling 79 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: system on my old four suburban. I guess it's four 80 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: years ago now, and I did everything. I was able 81 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: to get everything, and I'm thinking the two thousand is 82 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: similar in that you know it was two thousand to 83 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: two thousand six, right, yeah, um, so just just just yeah, 84 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: now is the time. It's twenty years old, right. OSC 85 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: is a good radiator company. As a matter of fact, 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: I know what it stands for. It do you know 87 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: what SC stands for? I don't want to stop cooling. 88 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: They're out of California. Yeah, that's and it was the 89 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: fellow owned a radiator story years and years and years go, 90 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: and he branched off and started making his own radiators 91 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: when he couldn't find a good product for what he 92 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: was trying to do, and eventually grow into and it 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: became OSC. We use we use o SC in the 94 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: shop all the time. Good stuff, all right, very few comebacks. 95 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: I won't say it's perfect, but I have no I 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: have no product line today that I can say is 97 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I have very few failures. And if I I believe 98 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: if I've had a failure with OSC, it's usually out 99 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: of the box, hook it up, it leaks right away. 100 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: It's not a failure down the road. So it's it's 101 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: it's it's it's that type of of an issue that 102 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: we've had experience with and it hasn't been that many. 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: Run would you go with the A C Delco O 104 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: E M because for some of your listeners they make 105 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: an A C Delco Pro part that's very inferior quality. Right, 106 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: the A C Delco Pro line. A C Delco is 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: such a watered down line today. It's so hard to 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: figure out what they were thinking. And you know, personally, 109 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: I you know, I'll tell you the story about twenty 110 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: years ago. That's how far back it goes. The A 111 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: C Delco rip came in and they were trying to 112 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: sell their A C Delco Master Tech Program. And I 113 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: looked at them and it was, you know, you had 114 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: a stock so much of parts, you had to keep 115 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: this much inventory, you had to do this much in sales. 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: I said, So, you're you're taking a technical program because 117 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: prior to that it gave good technical resources and information, 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: and you're making making it a parts program. What you 119 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: want us to do is push parts? Oh no, no, no, no, no, 120 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: that's not what's gonna happen. Yeah, I guess what. That's 121 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: what happened. All right. There's now so many lines of 122 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: A C Delco or you know a C Delco stamped 123 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: on it. They've diminished the value of what was once 124 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: a very great American brand. There's a C Delco advantage, 125 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: there's a C Delco Professional, there's a C Delco G 126 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: M o E, and there's probably a few mixed in 127 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: in between. We purchased some wheel bearings the other day 128 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: for an OH seven Envoy. They actually had the GM 129 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: part number and the A C Delco part number on it. 130 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: That would be the same part that you would get 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: at the dealer. That is a dealer quality, dealer level part. 132 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: That's how I understand it. That's what I've come to know, 133 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: that that particular line of a C Delco I consider 134 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: to be a good quality piece. I would use that 135 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: on my vehicle. I would use an OSC on my vehicle, 136 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: all right. I wouldn't have a problem if I couldn't 137 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: get one or the other. And I've been in the 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: situation where I've used one or the other to meet 139 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: they're equally good, all right? Um, is the GM or 140 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: A del O E M usually the best of their parts? 141 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: Or not? Yes? Usually? Usually? All right? You're looking for 142 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: the r p O code, the regular production option code. 143 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: It's not in the glove box. I don't believe. So 144 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: if you pop if you pop open the glove box store, 145 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: there's there's usually a decal or a label affixed to 146 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: the door itself, and it'll have the r p O 147 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: codes on it. If it's not there looking the owner's manual, 148 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: they should list and tell you where If if they 149 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: can't tell you that, then best guess is it's going 150 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: to be somewhere around the jack storage area in the 151 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: rear of the vehicle, on the inside of a door, 152 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: on the inside of a flap where the jack is stored. 153 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: That's where they would put it. And it's called an 154 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: RPO that stands for r p O. It's the regular 155 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: production option codes. When you go to the dealer and 156 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: you order a vehicle, if you if you or if 157 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: you know what you want to get the experience, go 158 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: online to order a Chevrolet or GM product and you'll 159 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: see they list like you've seen Z seventy one on 160 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: the side of pickup trucks. Z seventy one is the 161 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: r p O code for the suspension that that particular 162 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: pickup truck has it. Do you know how Z twenty 163 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: eight came to be named right Z Z knows Z 164 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: twenty eight was the r p O code for the 165 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Camaro back in sixty seven. That's you checked off ZWY 166 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: and you got a sixty seven Camaro with performance options. 167 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: And by sixty eight it's seemed to be so popular 168 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: they made a badge it said z That's how it 169 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: came to be. It's it's nothing that you know involved. 170 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: When you hear the term F forty one suspension, the 171 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: the the impalt has got F forty one suspension in it. 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: That's the r p O code. That's the production option 173 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: code for that vehicle. That's what they checked off the 174 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: box when they were selling the vehicle that the dealer to, Yeah, 175 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: I want one of these L A D eight. L 176 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: A D eight Corvette was a was a production option 177 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: for the engine. So you're looking for the production sheet 178 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: so that they can help identify the radiator to see 179 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: what capacity cooling system that vehicle has. Yes, right, right now, 180 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: you can get the radiator out and measure it, and 181 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: measuring is measuring it is just as good. If you 182 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: can't find the r p O shot it all right, 183 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: that'll work also, but they usually measure it between the 184 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: tanks on either it's it's correct. It's the metal core 185 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: size correct, it's it's it's the core, you know, length 186 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: between the tanks, the width of the core. And then 187 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: if you can get the cap off, look inside. How 188 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: many rows in the radiator? Now, it wouldn't hurt if 189 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: I could. If I've got a two row radiator and 190 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: they made a three row, I'd on a on a 191 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: on a production vehicle like this, I'd probably put some 192 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: extra cooling capacity in there. I don't necessarily do I 193 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: don't necessarily go to the four row, and I don't 194 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: do it on hot rods either, because then we get 195 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: into an issue where the cooling flows through the radiator 196 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: so fast sometimes that the fourth row adds so much 197 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: capacity that can't properly cool in it. I've had, I've 198 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: actually had four row radiator systems run hotter than three 199 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: and two row. Think about that one for a while. 200 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: So sometimes enough is good and a smidge more is better, alright, 201 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: but too much is just too much? Sometimes? Got it 202 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: all right? And that's it? What question didn't I answer? 203 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: What find just on any special tips on the tooling? 204 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: There seemed to be some very difficult clips. Yeah, you're 205 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna need it. You're you're gonna need a special there's 206 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: a little convoluted tabbed and tool that you're gonna have 207 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: to push in there to spread them and flip them 208 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: and pop the clips out. Do you have an O'reillyota 209 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: Parts by you? We do have very good luck and 210 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: we use them at your recommendation. Yeah, don't don't trans 211 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: line quick disconnect, got it? And you know what, don't 212 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: beat your brains and O'Reilly's O'rileyota Parts has all the brands. 213 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: You can go online at orillyoto dot com. Go over there, 214 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: call somebody. Hey, I want to overhaul the cooling system. 215 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: I want the best of the best. What do you got? 216 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: What do you recommend? They'll be glad to take the 217 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: time and do it for you, and they'll even do 218 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: curbside pickup so you don't have to go in the store. 219 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: We've been very pleased with O'Reilly here. You've given me 220 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: a lot of time, a tremendous help. Ron. I'll pass 221 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: you on to the next caller and thank you again. 222 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Larry, you stay safe. I'm runing any 223 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor we're back right after this. Oh god, 224 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: that's right. If you call and we're not live, you 225 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: can leave a message and we'll call you back to 226 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: get you on the air with Ron eight five five 227 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Speaking to Ron there he is, Hey, 228 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: let's get awads. Talk to Mica in Maine. Michael, welcome back, sir. 229 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: How are you today? Hey? Ron? I got a two 230 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: part story for you with my super dealership that is 231 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: absolutely doing the right thing. I brought my car in 232 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: on Thursday because it's five years old and it's time 233 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: for five year service. We talked about what needed to 234 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: be done, and the other part of what needed to 235 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: be done was there's a recall on the car. The 236 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: front catalytic convertered needs to be replaced. So I'm gonna 237 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: wait for it. And I'm sitting there and I've been 238 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: there two hours, and all of a sudden, the service 239 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: writer comes out with the mass mechanic and says, we 240 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: need to talk to you. Let's go back to the 241 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: shop so I can show you what's going on, which 242 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: is rare to happen at a dealership. But when it does, 243 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm scared, but second of all, well 244 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: they're bringing me to the shop. That's very unusual. Pulls 245 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: that shows me the U the front catalytic converter says, look, 246 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: be this oxygen sensor. I can force it out, but 247 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: if I do, it's gonna strip the threads and I 248 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: can get it back in, but it's gonna end up leaked. 249 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I'm gonna order your 250 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: new auction censer. Were out of stock on it, but 251 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: I want to take care of it. There won't be 252 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: any charge. I just need to see at home with 253 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: a loner. Great, he starts telling me. I just get 254 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: to talk to the master mechanic directly about what he's doing. 255 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: He says, break fluid was changed two years ago. It's fine, 256 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: it's clear, there's no problem. But you know what I'm 257 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna and I know you don't need 258 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: a flush it, but I am gonna empty the reservoir 259 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: completely and I'm gonna refill it with the reservoir with 260 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: fresh fluid. And I won't charge you for it. It'll 261 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: just add a little more fresh fluid to it. That's great. 262 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: He looks at the air conditioning. He says, Yep, it 263 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: looks like there's a leak here. It's running but in 264 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: a meat spec but it looks like there's a leak. 265 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up sealing that and replace it and 266 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: evacuate and put it back together. That's gonna be. We're 267 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: gonna cover that under warranty. Even though it's five years old, 268 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: it shouldn't leaked. Wow, that's great, really taking care of me. 269 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: They're impressed with the way of them. They they're actually 270 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: impressed with the way that I take care and service 271 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: the car. Because I do. I service it the way 272 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: that Ron and Adian taught me to. So they give 273 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: me a super legacy to take home. And I'm in 274 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: the car, and this is what I really want to 275 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: tell your listeners. If because you get a lot of 276 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: people our age that a pretty technology technical savvy like 277 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: I am, even like you are. I get in there, 278 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I can't figure out how to turn on the radio. 279 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing? And you're coming out 280 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: of a five year old car? Imagine coming out of 281 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old car. It was unbelievable. I couldn't 282 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: do it. Then I'm driving along. I stopped at a 283 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: stoplight and the car shutters. What the heck is going on? 284 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: There's a start stop technology and it I had no 285 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: idea yeah, and it's and I did not like it. 286 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: I could turn it off, but I kind of want 287 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: to feel what it's like since it's only alone. And 288 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, you you come to like a rolling stop 289 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: at a traffic light and it starts and stops and 290 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: starts and stops. It's it's really uncomftable. When it stops, 291 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: you lose your power steering. It's unsettling. It's it's very unsettling. Yeah, 292 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: it really is. I we I had case where I 293 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: had to go to Baltimore two weeks ago when I 294 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: was in aten Escape that had starts stop and you know, 295 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: nothing against Baltimore, but there's some tough neighborhoods and it 296 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're sitting at a traffic light and 297 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: it shuts off and you're sitting there saying, do I 298 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: hope it starts? Um? You know, I hope it does 299 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: what it's supposed to do. And uh, I've learned. What 300 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: I learned that trip was I said, I wonder if 301 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: there's a way to trick it. And what I did 302 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: was put my left my foot on the brake and 303 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: I popped it into neutral. And if you pop the 304 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: car into neutral on a Ford I can tell you 305 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: the car starts right up, and it won't. It won't 306 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: shot off, so um yeah, and there's a there's a switch. 307 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: I when I started digging through the controls to figure 308 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: out how to turn on the radio, I found, you know, 309 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: a button where I can turn off the stop start technology. Uh, 310 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: so you don't have to worry about it, which is 311 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of nice. But it was just a very strange experience. 312 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: But not being able that that big computer that I'm 313 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: sitting in that happens to have wheels in a steering wheel. 314 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: This is a super legacy of all things, you know. 315 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: It's not like it's a fancy, f fancy car. Well, 316 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: and one of the things that is somewhere around twenty 317 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: on a lot of models, on a lot of cars. 318 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: Across the board, the dashboard is going away. It's now 319 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: a tablet located either in front of the driver or 320 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: just to the right of the driver. There's just a 321 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: giant monitor screen, a flat panel monitor, and it does 322 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: everything and you can and that's I'm sure that's what 323 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: this Subaru has. Correct. It's just got a big tablet 324 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: in front of you for actually what it is. And 325 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: you couldn't even replace the radio because the whole computer 326 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: for the car is built into that thing, right and 327 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: it it just you know, what they're doing. What they're 328 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: really doing is we're seeing the evolution of the automobile 329 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: go to self driving. We're we're watching it before our eyes. 330 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Because you know that car that you saw and I'm 331 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: dating myself at the World's Fair, or that car that 332 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: you saw on TV, the car of the future that 333 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: was going to be self driving, and it was just 334 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a computer screen. The George Jetson mobile. They 335 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: may not fly at first, but they're going to have 336 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: a giant computer screen up in front of them, and 337 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: you're just gonna be touching software. And you think about it, 338 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: what's that going to do to the repair process. It's 339 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: to me, I think it's gonna get better. It works 340 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: or it doesn't. It's got X number of wires, it's 341 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: got power, ground and signal, it doesn't work, plug another 342 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: one in module repair. They're they're going to make auto 343 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: repair so much different, and they're gonna cut down on 344 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: the number of wires behind the dashboard, the connectors. Everything's 345 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: gonna be a data line. It's gonna be like a 346 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: computer network and that's what it is already, and it's 347 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: just gonna become more so and ever ever that much 348 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: more so. Um, well, good for you, MIKEA listen, I'm 349 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: up against the clock, Babe. Is always a pleasure to 350 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: talk to. I'm glad things are working out for you 351 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: up their main way. You are my main man. Uh, 352 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: you are my main man. So be safe, Micah, take 353 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: good care and we'll talk again real soon. I'm running 354 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: aiding the card ocker eight five five five zero zero 355 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: the phone number. We'll be back right after this. Don't 356 00:18:32,119 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: go right, welcome back ning the car doctor right five 357 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: five five six zero zero car doctor phone number. Give 358 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: us a call, leave a message if we're not on 359 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: the air, and Tom Ray executive producer, chief cook and 360 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: bottle washer. We'll get you back up and we'll talk 361 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: to the lex broadcast Saturday afternoons to the four pm 362 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: East Coast time, Brooken, Michigan. You're up two thousand eight Lexus. 363 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yes? Um, Hi two thousand eight Lexus? Yes, 364 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean eight thousand sound right right, tire just under 365 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: the Indian I see the pink liquid which is coolant? Correct? Right? 366 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: And how did I find out? One day my desert 367 00:19:54,600 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: were was empty and suddenly I was eating ready shops 368 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: and when I looked, there was no Okay. It's it 369 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: sounds like from the description and the location of the 370 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: leak that as long as there is no hoses leaking, 371 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: the coolant bottle itself isn't cracked. But it sounds from 372 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: your description that you've got a bad water pump okay, 373 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: and you and I'm concluding that because I just saw 374 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: that the location of the plumbing on the floor is 375 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: exactly okay, and the water pump itself is probably if 376 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: you're getting a knocking or a metallic sound and some clunking, 377 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: you've probably got it to the point where the bearing 378 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: of the water pump is bad and it's banging around, 379 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: so the vehicle is if that's the case. If the 380 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: water pump pulley has play and slopping it, you could 381 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: lose the belt and create some bigger issues. So you 382 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: really need to get this looked at and repair before 383 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: you drive it much more, if at all? Okay, So 384 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: microcy he is because of the sound, I need to 385 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: repair this water pump, yes, or I can use the 386 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: to feel that liquid leak. No, you can't use k 387 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: seal on a water pump leak. It doesn't work like that. 388 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: It won't it won't solve a seal against the leak 389 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: like that. That's a rotating leak against the seal. It 390 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: doesn't work like that. And the fact that the pump that, 391 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: the fact that the pump has noise tells me that 392 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: the bearing in the pump itself is bad. And usually 393 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: that's how they fail. They start off, there's a very 394 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: short distance or a very short amount of time on 395 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: the toyotas and alexis when they developed this coolant leak 396 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: until they get to the point where they wipe out 397 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: the bearing. I generally don't see this. You'll see it, 398 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: and then two miles later you've got bearing noise, or 399 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: five miles later you've got bearing noise because the bearing 400 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: is cooked. And I see that as a common failure. 401 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: So you've got to get that water pump diagnosed if 402 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: that's the case. If that's what it isn't repaired, replaced, 403 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: et cetera is not an option because no the case 404 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: seal the k seal as a repair is not an 405 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: option because of the type of leak that this is. 406 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: Even if listen, even if even if k C did 407 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: fix it, and maybe it would, I don't know. I 408 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: would never consider I'll say it like this, I would 409 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: never consider as as as highly as I think of 410 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: k seal and I think it's a great product, And 411 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: even if it did fix the water pump, I still 412 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't take it as a permanent repair because that water 413 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: pump shaft is a rotating seal. A head gas gets 414 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: a fixed object. It's clamped between two pieces of steel 415 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: or two two blocks of material steel and illuminate whatever 416 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: it's it's a fix that there's no movement. But in 417 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: the in the case of a water pump, that's a 418 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: shaft rotating against the seal. I don't see how casel 419 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: would hold up. I don't see how case would even 420 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: stop and fix the leak. So using it for that purpose, no, 421 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: it's not recommended, not in my book. And I think 422 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: the fact that you've already got bearing noise that bearing 423 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: is about to fail, and when it does, it's going 424 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: to rip the impeller out the back of the water 425 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: pump and possibly cause block damage. So you don't want 426 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: to do that. So the pusher devices do not drive 427 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: this car, but it can. So my next question you 428 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: got what brand coming well, I would prefer something close 429 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: to O E. I like dens So as a line. 430 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: You can find Denso was the original manufacturer for that 431 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: water pump out of Lexus, and you can find those online. 432 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: You can find that. I believe O'Riley Ota Parts carries 433 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: dense O D E N s O. You could look 434 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: it up online at O'Riley otto dot com and see 435 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: if they listed. It's not an easy water It's not 436 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: an easy water pump to do. It's it's buried in there. 437 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: It's a it's typically three to four hours. Now if 438 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: you look in if you look in the Toyota repair manual, 439 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: it will in all likelihood ask that the engine be 440 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: removed to do that water pump. I've seen and heard 441 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: stories where the dealers are quoting seventeen to eighteen hours 442 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: to put a water pump in that car. And I 443 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: can tell you from experience, oh eight E S three 444 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: fifty there is clearance to sneak the pump out without 445 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: taking the engine out. Now, having said that, I've noticed 446 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: a few times in the last couple of months that 447 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: some of some Toyota repair information isn't as accurate as 448 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: it once was, and certain things like that come up. 449 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: They'll tell you to take an engine out when you 450 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: don't have to. They'll tell you to take a strut 451 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: off when you don't need to. And I'm not sure 452 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: what's going on if things are being edited out of 453 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: sequence or they're they're out of touch. I'll leave it 454 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: there to say that. But you want a dense ol 455 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: pump or an original pump from Toyota, Alexis it is, 456 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: it's it's It's not the easiest pump in the world 457 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: to do, but it's not super difficult. But you don't 458 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: want to have to revisit it twice. This is a 459 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. It went twelve years. Hopefully you 460 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: get another twelve years out of it. And make sure 461 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: that when you do this job, you do an exchange 462 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: and you you know, all the old coolant out, all 463 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: fresh coolant in. Okay, good, Thank you very much for 464 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: taking You're very welcome. You take good care, and like 465 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: I said, get out to a Rileyoto dot com. You'll 466 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: find everything you need. I'm sure I'm runing aiding in 467 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: the car doctor eight five five zero nine zero zero. 468 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back. The car 469 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: doctor eight five five zero zero the phone number. Just 470 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: a real quick aside, Shelby. Jimmy's gonna be on the 471 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: road this week. Jimmy's taking Blue, his sixty six Shelby Gt. 472 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: Three fifty down Tennessee Caroline away for some sort of 473 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: Shelby convention or something. I'm not sure what I think. 474 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 1: Jimmy just wants to go tearing around the Blue Ridge Mountains. 475 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: We had it in the shop this week. He had 476 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: some problems with oil breathing. The crank case breathers weren't 477 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: set up right, and we're doing some valve cover work 478 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: and we noticed that the engine builder had installed these 479 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: baffle plates with holes in the top, so they really 480 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: didn't and weren't effective to provide baffling. The oil was 481 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: going right up and out the breather and splattering along 482 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: the back and the bottom of the engine, and basically 483 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: the car was being rustproof, which is okay, it's cool, right. 484 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Sixty six Shelby went around as long as we can, 485 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: but we found the original baffle plates. Jimmy cleaned out 486 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: his garage, God bless him, much to his wife's happiness, 487 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: and while Blue was gone, while we had it, and 488 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: he found the original baffle plates and we installed them. 489 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: And in installing them, we noticed that the valve cover 490 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: on the driver's side didn't lay right, and sure enough, 491 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: the roller rockers didn't clear the baffle plate. Now now 492 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: I understood why the engine builder drilled three holes in 493 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: the baffle plate to make clearance, because I kept looking 494 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: at it saying why are these holes here? So the 495 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: problem is do we want to let the engine have 496 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: poor oil control and keep blowing oil out the breathers 497 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: by using the wrong baffle plates, or do we want 498 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: to make the old baffle plates fit. Thank God for 499 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: ball peen hammers. I know it sounds crude on the 500 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: hud seventy five dollars Shelby, but GM said it in 501 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: sixty four when they told you to peen a relief 502 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: to make valve covers fit on their corvettes. We peened 503 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: a relief, got the valve covers on. Jim will be 504 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: tearing around the Blue Ridge Mountains by tuesday, so god speed. 505 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: Jimmy calls back in two weeks, let us know how 506 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: the trip was. We're We're sure Blue will be good 507 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: for you. Let's get over to Joe and Nashville attend 508 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: Toyota RAV four and a shutter Joe. Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, 509 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: how can I help? Okay? Yeah, two thousands Toyota RAP 510 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: for four sellin or three seventy thousand miles. Yeah, I 511 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: hear you. Man, just ready to go. That's right. When 512 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm going up a hill, um, say, forty miles per 513 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: hour and for the entire length of that hill when 514 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: it's under load like that, UM, I'm getting like a 515 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: shutter uh slight hesitate, uh slight hesitating. Maybe you'd call 516 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: it um and maybe possibly the only other symptom I 517 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: don't know if it's related, is a longer than normal 518 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: crank time, but not you know, excessive. But those are 519 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: the only two things that um it's doing. And I've 520 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: just kind of like some direction on how to diagnose it. Okay, 521 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: the six or four cylinder? Joe, four cylinder? What sort 522 00:28:54,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: of scantol do you have? Anything? Got a launch? Can 523 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: you read seven? Can you can you read datas? Can 524 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: you read data stream with that launch? Yes? Okay, let's go. 525 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: So we're gonna operate on the principle of tell me 526 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: what's good, all right, and you have to think in 527 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: terms of that, if you came home and you flicked 528 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: on the light switch at the house and the ball 529 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: didn't come on, would you just start changing parts or 530 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: would you try and diagnose it? Most people would put 531 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, yeah, most people would put a ball 532 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: then because that's easy. But when that doesn't work, then 533 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: we begin to diagnose. So let's diagnose this, all right, 534 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: tell me what fuel trim is? All right? Do you do? 535 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: You understand the concept of fuel trim only from listening 536 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: to you to really basic. Uh, It's kind of like numeric, right, 537 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: it's a fire for example, or keeping the fire going. Yeah, well, 538 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: it's it's numeric addition or subtraction of fuel to the 539 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: engine based on how it's running. It's so that it 540 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: maintains a correct air fuel mixture. All right, it's a 541 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: measurement taken. We're gonna be worried about and concerned about 542 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: the number when the vehicle is warmed up, so the 543 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: vehicle's enclosed loop. It's typically over a hundred and seventy 544 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: five degrees. If you look at fuel system status, it 545 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: will say c L are closed, meaning that it's enclosed 546 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: loop operation. That's what we're looking for all right. We 547 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: want to see we want to see short term fuel 548 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: trim somewhere cruising a long normal conditions. Plus or minus 549 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: ten percent's okay, ten percent probably high, and we want 550 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: to see long term fuel trim in that plus or 551 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: minus five percent window. All right, now, I will say 552 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: this ten percent short term, five percent long term is 553 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: a total of fifteen percent fuel trim. Will typically see 554 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: twenty five percent turn on a light softcent would be 555 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: high in my opinion. All right, we're gonna see. We're 556 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna see a tighter window than that. So tell me 557 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: what fuel trim is. Go down and look at it. 558 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: See where fuel trims at. I don't know if your 559 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: launch tool does it, but i'd also want to know 560 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: do we have any data in mode six? Mode six 561 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: is the information that the computer uses to make a 562 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: decision whether or not there's a fault in a component 563 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: or circuit. And some scan tools give you the ability 564 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: to look at mode six and it'll it'll show you 565 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: something like minimum test value, maximum test value, actual test value. 566 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: So if we're talking about ignition misfires and it says 567 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: maximum ignition misfire allowed twenty thousand, minimum ignition misfire would 568 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: be zero actual misfire. If it was fourteen thousand, would 569 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: that turn on a check engine light? No? Right? Right? 570 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: Do you do? You do? You see my point, Joe? 571 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: If maximum If maximum value is twenty and it's running 572 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: at fourteen, it's not going to turn on the fault. 573 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: But fourteens enough to make the car shutter and shake. Right, 574 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: So so you know, just because the car has no 575 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: codes doesn't mean we can't fix it. So we have 576 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: to go tell me what's good. If you've got an 577 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: easy way to hook up fuel pressure at three five 578 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: thousand miles, fuel pressure and volume would be a wonderful thing. 579 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: I'd also be thinking about pump cavitation. Do we see 580 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: any air bubbles in the fuel lines? You need a 581 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: special tester for that. And then last, I'd like you 582 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: to ponder and think about what sort of shape is 583 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: the trans in? You know, we've we've seen cases where 584 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: ignition looks good, fuel trim looks good, and we've still 585 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: gotta shutter and shake? Is the trans fluid beat up? 586 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: Is the trans fluid browns as the trans fluid have 587 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: smelled to it? Does changing trans fluid make a difference? 588 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: Does going uphill in a different gear affect the way 589 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: the trans operates or the vehicle runs. You got your 590 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: homework for you, Joe, do those things? Call me back? 591 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: I'm roning ating in the car doctor will return right 592 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back or any of the car doctor. 593 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: A little taste of what can go wrong in a 594 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: repair shop, even when you have all the tools, even 595 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: when you try to have the right tools for the job, 596 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: even when you try to keep your software updated. What 597 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: could go wrong? I've got a bulletin in front of 598 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: me from the National Automotive Service Task Force. Whereas we 599 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: in the business called NASTIFF, and it starts out dear NASTIFF. 600 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: Member NASTIFF has received several service information requests identifying issues 601 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: with four Diagnostics software applications. We've spoken with the four 602 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: Diagnostics team have been informed they're working as fast as 603 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: possible to create a solution. It's anticipated that it will 604 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: be in testing later today June four and in the 605 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: field by June eight. Motorcraft service supporters or solutions to 606 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: technicians and locksmiths that have been marginally effective. Our recommendation 607 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: is to avoid spending significant time backing up to an 608 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: earlier version that has not worked and the better answer 609 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: is to offer your customers an apology and a wait 610 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: for the fix. What this means in everyday English, you 611 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: take your car into the ford dealer or the repair shop, 612 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: you try to get a software update. Something's not working properly, 613 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: whether it's the air conditioning doesn't display, the engine doesn't 614 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: run right, the transmission doesn't shift correctly, and there's a 615 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: glitch in the actual software. There's a bug and it's 616 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: not allowing the trans it's not allowing the software to 617 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: complete its job, and it's basically going to make the 618 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: car worse. It happens, it's been happening, it's going to 619 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: continue to happen. And I thought the point of this 620 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: was and g wiz, thank gosh for companies like nastaf Right, 621 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: the National No Normal Service Task Force, because how many 622 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: technicians bang their head against the wall trying to figure out, Hey, 623 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: I can't get this car to work. All of a sudden, 624 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: it's worse than when I started. The road to the 625 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: future has some bumps along the way, and we're gonna 626 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: have to really start to get some clear vision on 627 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: where we wanted to go because they're only gonna get 628 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: more complicated, and we're going to create our own headaches 629 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: and our own problems, and for that we're gonna have 630 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: to create some very intelligent technicians. I'm running any in 631 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: the car, doctor, reminding you this time, until the next time. 632 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you