Speaker 1: All right, buckle up. We got a lot to get
Speaker 1: to today. Glad you are on board. Glad you're with us.
Speaker 1: Right down our toll free telephone number. It's eight hundred
Speaker 1: and nine four one sean if you want to be
Speaker 1: a part of the program. So I took down all
Speaker 1: my social media. I have no access to Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,
Speaker 1: and all I do is when I want to do it,
Speaker 1: I send it. Ze Linda or somebody on my TV
Speaker 1: show tweet this out. So let's just be super clear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you still have a Twitter account, you still have a
Speaker 1: Facebook account, you still have an Instagram account. You just
Speaker 1: do longer post to it. Do that for you. Do
Speaker 1: I have any passwords to any of those accounts? No,
Speaker 1: we took those away from you. He took them away
Speaker 1: from me. All right, everyone took away And by the way,
Speaker 1: buy my request is taken too much of my time.
Speaker 1: I stay up late at night getting in fights with
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel and wasted my time with him. So anyway,
Speaker 1: saying all of that, I have friends. They've been texting
Speaker 1: and sending messages all day about what's going on in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: Did you see the size of the crowd outside this
Speaker 1: arena the only seats I think nineteen thousand, three hundred.
Speaker 1: Linda found out yesterday and the mayor is apparently, you know,
Speaker 1: they tried to shut this down. They tried to almost
Speaker 1: shake down the Trump campaign is like, oh, you gotta
Speaker 1: pay five hundred thousand dollars now, Rows, We're not going
Speaker 1: to let you have your rally. Okay. They never did
Speaker 1: that with Obama or any other Democrat. Why would they
Speaker 1: do that to Donald Trump? Because that's I guess who
Speaker 1: they are. And then they are trying to keep the
Speaker 1: press away from the people in the lines because the
Speaker 1: press might interview people that would say good things about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. The fact that people have been waiting there
Speaker 1: some overnight apparently or tried to and moist stop. But
Speaker 1: the line began in earnest at you know, six seven
Speaker 1: am this morning and people, I mean, the line is massive.
Speaker 1: And what's what's hilarious is that there was one report
Speaker 1: I have no idea of, not confirmed this, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the hashtag magas soda. I thought it was
Speaker 1: pretty funny on Twitter. People on Twitter are clever, smart,
Speaker 1: They're gound be mean and vicious and horrible too, But
Speaker 1: it is funny. Some of the stuff that even the
Speaker 1: stuff that they write about me that's horrible. It is
Speaker 1: funny if you have a sense of humor. Anyway, long
Speaker 1: story short here is the lines are massive. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at pictures now and that's like as far
Speaker 1: as the eye can see. I mean, and it's like
Speaker 1: a rock concert. We're gonna check in Lawrence Jones, we
Speaker 1: sent there. We have other people that are friends of
Speaker 1: the show that are gonna be calling in throughout the program.
Speaker 1: We'll check in with them too. And all I can
Speaker 1: tell you is, oh, and there was one report. I
Speaker 1: have no idea if it's true that the mayor wanted
Speaker 1: to take away the porta potties to make people uncomfortable, Well,
Speaker 1: what happened? You take away the porta potties, They're gonna
Speaker 1: be what urinating in the streets like in Nancy Pelosi's district.
Speaker 1: Defecating in the streets. Unbelievable. We've got that. I really
Speaker 1: want to dig down deep into everything that is now
Speaker 1: going on with the Democrats. Will get to that too.
Speaker 1: Two other stories though, that we're going to hit in
Speaker 1: the course of the program later on with Jonathan and
Speaker 1: Danielle is One is you know, the NBA literally just
Speaker 1: bowing before the altar of China. And you know here's
Speaker 1: you know, NBA players have no problem tweeting out comments
Speaker 1: that are negative to Donald Trump, and the NBA commissioner
Speaker 1: has no problem doing that either. And now you've got
Speaker 1: money involved, real money apparently, like one point eight billion
Speaker 1: dollars for the NBA. And Jason Whitlock was amazing from
Speaker 1: Fox Sports one on Hannity last night and he laid out, Wow,
Speaker 1: look at this. It's bigger than the NBA. It also
Speaker 1: has to do with Nike. I mean, he gave this
Speaker 1: whole theory of his which I found fascinating, none of
Speaker 1: which I would have been able to come up with myself.
Speaker 1: But now there, you know, he's encouraging the NBA commissioner coaches.
Speaker 1: You know it's fine to rail against Trump. You know,
Speaker 1: it's fine to promote radical groups, which has happened by
Speaker 1: some players. And he instituted a gender quota for referees
Speaker 1: and declared progressive code words diversity and inclusion in core principles,
Speaker 1: and you know, it goes on and on. And there
Speaker 1: was a great piece by Miranda Divine at the New
Speaker 1: York Post today and Silver is proud in using the
Speaker 1: position to push you know, social justice, anti Trump politics.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna stand up to, you know, or
Speaker 1: stand for something like the Houston Rockets basketball boss by
Speaker 1: the name of Daryl Morey exercising his free speech rights
Speaker 1: and he tweeted support or the people of Hong Kong
Speaker 1: and their pro democracy protests, fight for freedom, stand with
Speaker 1: Hong Kong. Okay, you wouldn't think that's a big deal,
Speaker 1: but apparently in the face of China belligerently their reaction
Speaker 1: to this, and the m BA just capitulating to all
Speaker 1: of this. You know, I'm to the point where Maury's
Speaker 1: regretable sentiments that had deeply offended many of our friends
Speaker 1: and fans in China. What Okay, if the Houston Rockets,
Speaker 1: you know, boss wants to tweet support for freedom, liberty
Speaker 1: and the independence movement in Hong Kong, good for him.
Speaker 1: But apparently you can in the NBA. So we'll get
Speaker 1: to that in the course of the program. Today, I'm
Speaker 1: reading this story about Matt Lower. I am I am shocked.
Speaker 1: Now it's amazing the front page New York Post. Now
Speaker 1: there's two tabloids in New York. One of the New
Speaker 1: York Posts. The other is the New York Daily News.
Speaker 1: The Post more conservative, by the way, the same company
Speaker 1: that owns Fox News. And then the New York Daily
Speaker 1: News is very liberal. Not fans of Sean Hannity. But
Speaker 1: that's fine. It's just like the Washington Post tates me.
Speaker 1: If he didn't think the New York Times hates me,
Speaker 1: just look at the picture they put on the cover
Speaker 1: of the New York Times Sunday magazine of me. I've
Speaker 1: never seen anyone look that bad in my entire life,
Speaker 1: you know, reading newspapers. That was pretty funny though. But anyway,
Speaker 1: the headline today shock claim and new book, big letters,
Speaker 1: Matt Lower raped me, and it goes on NBC anchor
Speaker 1: he responded to this all lies, We had a consensual affair.
Speaker 1: And then when you get to the body of the article,
Speaker 1: which is inside the paper, you know you got two
Speaker 1: you know, you know, basically a full page on this
Speaker 1: whole thing about this Roman Pharaoh book. He's the one
Speaker 1: that brought down Weinstein. Anyway, you know, she is claiming
Speaker 1: that he violently raped her in Sochi and at the
Speaker 1: Olympics in Russia in twenty fourteen, and Matt Lowers, defending himself, saying, well,
Speaker 1: the story Brook tells is filled with false details intended
Speaker 1: to create the impression this was an abusive encounter. There's
Speaker 1: no evidence that law enforcement was ever contacted regarding this
Speaker 1: case that I have read anywhere. Yet, you know, she's
Speaker 1: saying it wasn't consensual, that it was non consensual, and
Speaker 1: I mean, she's describing a very violent incident here. And
Speaker 1: he's saying that they went on beyond that to have
Speaker 1: an extramarital affair. But it started in his hotel room
Speaker 1: one late night in Sochi, and she's saying that she
Speaker 1: and Lara went on to have more sexual encounters. So
Speaker 1: they both admit that they had this relationship thereafter. And
Speaker 1: I it's like everything else, I don't know how, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to believe. I cannot tell you anything
Speaker 1: but the things that they both agree on, which is
Speaker 1: they've had an affair after the incident. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened in that room that night in Sochi,
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't know how you ascertain the
Speaker 1: truth of it. Now. Apparently she had told people at
Speaker 1: the time, so that would benefit and support her side
Speaker 1: of this. He's denying it, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: you ever get to the truth. I do know this
Speaker 1: that I think we've all learned a lot, and I've
Speaker 1: told this lesson many times on the program that I
Speaker 1: learned in Atlanta with the Richard Jewel case. This is
Speaker 1: in remember the Summer Olympics nineteen ninety six. I'm local
Speaker 1: on air in Atlanta, Georgia and at the home of
Speaker 1: the official Olympics news radio station. All right, That's that's
Speaker 1: where I was. Anyway, the story breaks and by every account,
Speaker 1: you got this security guard, Richard Jewel, is the hero,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the AJC, the Atlanta Journal
Speaker 1: Constitution comes out with now he fits the profile of
Speaker 1: the lone bomber. After all, he lives with his mother.
Speaker 1: And I'm on the air reading this and I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: what he lives with his mother doesn't make him a terrorist,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he bombed anybody. Now, long story short, The
Speaker 1: rest to the media just turns on this guy, and
Speaker 1: they rushed to judgment, as they usually do. That's where
Speaker 1: I first got to meet Lynn Wood, who I think
Speaker 1: is one of the finest, probably him and Charles Hart
Speaker 1: of Finest Libel Slander attorneys in the country and Lynn
Speaker 1: Wood ends up getting a fortune for Richard Jewel. He
Speaker 1: said on this program he thinks Richard Jewel, who died
Speaker 1: at forty four, died because of all the stress associated
Speaker 1: with this. But the bottom line, as it turned out,
Speaker 1: the guy was a hero. The guy didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: The guy saved lives that day, but they rushed to judgment.
Speaker 1: We saw this most recently with Nicholas Sandman. You know,
Speaker 1: here's the black Hebrew Israelites are verbally assaulting this group
Speaker 1: of kids. He's got a maga hat on. Then you
Speaker 1: have a Native American by the name of Nathan Phillips
Speaker 1: who's banging on a drum. There's some protests they were
Speaker 1: involved in, and then the media runs with, oh, look
Speaker 1: at him, he was intimidating the Native America, and oh
Speaker 1: they said racist things. When we when you had the
Speaker 1: whole tape, which we had much more that the media
Speaker 1: could have gone on, they ran with, this kid's a racist,
Speaker 1: This kid, you know, was in tip trying to intimidate
Speaker 1: Nathan Phillips. They ran with, you know, all sorts of
Speaker 1: things when just the opposite was true. And when I
Speaker 1: first interviewed Richard Jewell. He told me that, you know,
Speaker 1: I was listening to you when you were the only
Speaker 1: one ever ever that questioned this narrative because I didn't
Speaker 1: know the answer. Just like with thelur story, I have
Speaker 1: no idea what to make of that. I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer. I'm you know, everyone wants to tell you
Speaker 1: they got the answer. I don't have it. But that
Speaker 1: lesson when he told me that, it kind of shook me,
Speaker 1: and it taught me a valuable lesson. Now there's a
Speaker 1: reason that we've been right on Duke Lacrosse. Remember the
Speaker 1: ninety professors, you know, taken out a full page ad
Speaker 1: in the paper convicting those kids. I actually didn't rush
Speaker 1: to judgment there either. I took the time to go
Speaker 1: out and meet the kids and the parents, some of
Speaker 1: the kids and families, and I got this side of
Speaker 1: the story. Remember when Ferguson Missouri happened. I had people,
Speaker 1: my sources that were telling me that knew in law enforcement,
Speaker 1: that knew the truths. And there are eyewitnesses that confirm
Speaker 1: everything Barren Wilson has said, and that will come out
Speaker 1: the rest of the media. They created the expectation what
Speaker 1: the result was going to be same thing in Ferguson,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the same thing in Baltimore, the Freddie Great case.
Speaker 1: There was an expectation those six cops were going to
Speaker 1: jail early on. I knew the real story because I
Speaker 1: did my own work. I didn't rush to judgment when
Speaker 1: they rushed the judgment with Nicholas Salmon. I mean, just
Speaker 1: it's so glaring because the kid handled everything perfectly. Then
Speaker 1: you can add Cambridge police to the issue. Then you
Speaker 1: could add Treyvon and Zimmerman to the issue. They thought
Speaker 1: they had that right. Then you can add they never
Speaker 1: vetted Obama. Then you can add that they never thought
Speaker 1: Trump could win. Then you could add the Russia witch hunt.
Speaker 1: They were so sure that they were going to get
Speaker 1: Trump on that. Now it's downs the Ukraine coup attempt.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing now. Or Justice Kavanaugh. Another example,
Speaker 1: I remember when Michael Avanati was accused, I guess by
Speaker 1: his girlfriend. There were three separate investigations going on, and
Speaker 1: I remember saying on this programming on TV, I have
Speaker 1: no idea what happened here, but I'm gonna give Michael
Speaker 1: Avanati that which he never gave Justice Kavanaugh, the presumption
Speaker 1: of innocence and the right to do process. And I'm
Speaker 1: not backing off that because it's worked out well for
Speaker 1: us and we end up always being right. Had the
Speaker 1: media get Russia Russia Russia wrong? Wrong, wrong? Because the
Speaker 1: media it's so toxic. I mean, they just they don't
Speaker 1: care about truth facts, which is lead me into the
Speaker 1: commentary I want to get into on the latest about Ukraine, Ukraine,
Speaker 1: Ukraine unbelievable. So we got all that coming up today.
Speaker 1: All right, eight hundred nine for one. Sean told free
Speaker 1: telephone number. Right, Jeff is in Minnesota, says, so you
Speaker 1: live near where this rally is? Is that true? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Actually I live in Invergrol Heights, which is a sub
Speaker 1: I was down there and there is a lot more
Speaker 1: people than what I think you have reported for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean you go out to a two block radius
Speaker 1: and there's got to be six to eight thousand people
Speaker 1: milling around. Okay, so you go out there. What time
Speaker 1: did the crowd start getting big? Because I'm seeing these
Speaker 1: social media pictures they are huge, and I'm also let's
Speaker 1: say it probably started early in the morning. Yeah, before
Speaker 1: by the way, so the mayor tried they first tried
Speaker 1: to shake down the Trump campaign for money, and then
Speaker 1: they didn't want police officers wearing uniforms. And you know,
Speaker 1: and now they heard they took away porta potties. What
Speaker 1: can you say to that? Well, as I know is
Speaker 1: they put like there was only two porta potties for
Speaker 1: thousands of people, and they put it in an area
Speaker 1: that they knew that was going to be shut down
Speaker 1: at a certain time because of the security reason. So
Speaker 1: I feel, in my opinion and others that are around here,
Speaker 1: they did that on purpose. Yeah. Listen, nothing that mayor
Speaker 1: of yours would do would surprise me. What's so amazing
Speaker 1: is just how stunningly, you know, overtly they do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, they literally tried everything they could do to
Speaker 1: make sure this rally does not happen tonight. That's what
Speaker 1: they do. Well, if it was a Democrat, it would
Speaker 1: be way different. Yeah. Yeah, and Obama's And that's all
Speaker 1: you have to do is look, the last time when
Speaker 1: Obama was here, they charged him a fraction of what
Speaker 1: they were doing for here. I think it was reported
Speaker 1: that it was only twenty thousand dollars. And they've bent
Speaker 1: over backwards and now they're saying that you know, they
Speaker 1: don't want uniform cops or and it was near there
Speaker 1: as far as if they're inside the rally, but there
Speaker 1: was uniform police department all over inside for that. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. When you're looking at the people,
Speaker 1: what are they doing? Are they nice? They like talking
Speaker 1: to each other, They're they're fighting. That's your name is
Speaker 1: not Jeff, real quick, Jef? Well, Linda, you're right. I mean,
Speaker 1: right now, they're just basically just knowing around. There's different
Speaker 1: signage all over the place. They're tailgating, They're having fun.
Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. We're up on a break, is
Speaker 1: why I had to interrupt. We'll continue all right, twenty
Speaker 1: five to the top of the hour, eight hundred and
Speaker 1: nine for one. Sean told fore telephone number you want
Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. Now, we sent
Speaker 1: our own Lawrence Jones, who is the Hannity Fox News
Speaker 1: Hannity Special on the Road twenty twenty election correspondent, an
Speaker 1: investigative reporter, and Linda his friend with Tricia Hope. She's
Speaker 1: the author of Just the Tweets. She might remember she
Speaker 1: came up with just printing Donald Trump's tweets and like
Speaker 1: it becomes an instant bestseller, which was a great idea.
Speaker 1: She is also in Minnesota at the rally. Welcome both
Speaker 1: of you, Tricia, welcome back Lawrence. We love Avenue. As always,
Speaker 1: we'll have be on TV tonight. It was I am
Speaker 1: proud to announce that Lawrence has gotten a great new
Speaker 1: long term deal with the Fox News Channel. Congratulations, well
Speaker 1: deserve sir, Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. At a
Speaker 1: lot of energy down here in Minnesota. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I tell people that when you hear about all the
Speaker 1: impeachment stuff, and then you go out here and you
Speaker 1: actually talk with real people that on a part of
Speaker 1: the mainstream media. That's what I do for you. Sho
Speaker 1: go on the road every day and I talk to
Speaker 1: real people that have real problems. They're not concerned about that.
Speaker 1: You know what they want to know about something they
Speaker 1: won't know about Ukraine? What is going on with a
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden? Why hasn't the mainstream media done any type
Speaker 1: of investigation into that shady business? Well, I mean I
Speaker 1: want to know what he did for it. By the way,
Speaker 1: everyone says, well, it's Joe Biden's kid, he's forty nine
Speaker 1: years old, But the kid's not in college the kids.
Speaker 1: All right, so where's his background and experience? Let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, how big was that line? Because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm seeing pictures on social media that show it's massive.
Speaker 1: It's a big lion, Sean. And you know the thing
Speaker 1: about Minnesota is that they have indoor walkways as well
Speaker 1: as outside. Is they've taken up all the indoor walkways
Speaker 1: and get outside. It's wrapped around as well. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there love Fox knew the
Speaker 1: love Sean Hannity and loved their president. Uh. And you
Speaker 1: know it's raining on and offside here and these people
Speaker 1: are just standing there getting drenched. Its Minnesota is out too,
Speaker 1: so that I got to deal with both things. You
Speaker 1: know the way from the wheelchairs too. Wow, one year
Speaker 1: from now, Lawrence is going to come on this program
Speaker 1: and hate my guts because you know, I'm like Lawrence,
Speaker 1: you gotta go here, Lawrence, go here, Lawrence, come on,
Speaker 1: we need you on the road. You're you're, you're, You're
Speaker 1: gonna hate my guts by the end of this process,
Speaker 1: Lawrence go in the middle of that liberal protest. Well,
Speaker 1: I put one hundred and eighty five thousand miles since
Speaker 1: the December on the plane. So you know, you've given
Speaker 1: me a lot of experience to talk with the American
Speaker 1: people and talk about what they are thinking. I say,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of the people in the media,
Speaker 1: they don't do that. They try to project how they feel.
Speaker 1: They don't feel the same way as the people in
Speaker 1: the studios in New York. It's amazing. Did you get
Speaker 1: I was told by I saw on social media not
Speaker 1: being able to confirm maybe you know the answer to it.
Speaker 1: We had a caller from Minnesota that lives nearby and
Speaker 1: was down by the rally that apparently the mayor now
Speaker 1: the mayor, you know, the city wanted at the last
Speaker 1: minute for the Trump campaign the pony up five hundred
Speaker 1: grand and which they never did for any other presidential candidate.
Speaker 1: Then they said about a week ago that police officers
Speaker 1: can't wear their uniforms to the rally. Then I just heard.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true. And that's why I'm asking,
Speaker 1: did they really remove the porter potties? Now so close
Speaker 1: up to the building, the poorer potties are there? The
Speaker 1: really the place of the porter potties, They're no longer
Speaker 1: there where they were before, but closer by the building.
Speaker 1: They are there. It is true about the law enforcement
Speaker 1: not being there. And by the way, the people in
Speaker 1: the rally, every time you see the cops go by,
Speaker 1: they are just cheering so loud. But the all duty
Speaker 1: cops that typically go to these events were able normally
Speaker 1: able to wear the uniforms. The police chief and mayor
Speaker 1: have barred them from wearing their uniform only there on
Speaker 1: duty cops. So all duty cops end up making their
Speaker 1: own T shirt. And you see them, the cops for
Speaker 1: Trump and their teachers. A great guys. I think some
Speaker 1: of them are even on my security detail today helping
Speaker 1: us out here. Let's go to Tricia's Lawrence. Stay right there, Tricia,
Speaker 1: where are you at this moment? Right now? I'm actually
Speaker 1: inside the venue, but all day long, I've been up
Speaker 1: and down the walkways and outside, and I can tell
Speaker 1: you they did remove the porta potties of many of them,
Speaker 1: and they placed them on the opposite end of where
Speaker 1: the line began. So you literally have to walk about
Speaker 1: two miles to get to the first porta potty that
Speaker 1: you see, and there are a very few porta potties
Speaker 1: to begin with to support this crowd. And then the mayor.
Speaker 1: I'm told by the people in line that turned up
Speaker 1: the heat in the skywalk. It's miserably hot in there.
Speaker 1: He's trying to make it as uncomfortable as a miserable
Speaker 1: as he possibly can. Now, how many are you with,
Speaker 1: like a large group of people indoors and the indoor
Speaker 1: hallways leading into the arena. Yes, I've been in and
Speaker 1: outside of the arena, walking up and down the line
Speaker 1: all day long. It's actually since. Yeah, why don't you go,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I want you to do. Why
Speaker 1: don't you walk near a big crowd and we'll put
Speaker 1: you on hold and tell them that. Sean Hannity's on
Speaker 1: the line on his radio show, wants to say hi
Speaker 1: to everybody? And how long will it take you to
Speaker 1: get to the like where a crowd is Give me
Speaker 1: about two minutes. I just got it. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: you gonna do that. I got it. I got it,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Jones. So where are you specifically located right now?
Speaker 1: Let me guess you're in the hotel room comfortably, you know,
Speaker 1: ordering up a cheeseburger for lunch. I'm not comfortable. I
Speaker 1: just got back to the hotels. I can take just
Speaker 1: call them because you know, these Trump supporters many they
Speaker 1: let you know how they're feeling about the issue. But
Speaker 1: she's right. I don't know what they did to the
Speaker 1: air condition or whatever daya they did, but it's extremely
Speaker 1: hot in the facility of where all these people. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been to a lot of these Trump
Speaker 1: rallies for you shot. Typically all the people are waiting
Speaker 1: outside and you see them lap around the building. Well,
Speaker 1: because of how Minnesota is, they have the skywalks where
Speaker 1: people can line up in there, so all of that
Speaker 1: is stilled up, and then you have the people looped
Speaker 1: up outside that are in line waiting to get to
Speaker 1: the skywalks to get into the facilitage. And it's hot inside.
Speaker 1: I mean I was drifted in sweat inside, and then
Speaker 1: outside is cold and the rain is going on and off,
Speaker 1: on and off. So disimagine that. Let me go back
Speaker 1: to Tricia. Stay there, Lawrence Jones. Tricia apparently is back
Speaker 1: in the line. Tricia, you back in the line. I'm
Speaker 1: actually inside the arena on the floor with a group
Speaker 1: of people who are I mean, the floor is filling
Speaker 1: up quickly and I'm looking big worth the people who
Speaker 1: are has been standing all day, some of them since yesterday,
Speaker 1: and we'll be standing all night. All right. Let me,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel like doing this. Can
Speaker 1: you make an announcement that Sean Hannity wants to say
Speaker 1: hi to everybody, and then we put your phone on speaker.
Speaker 1: Can we do that? Yes? That possible? All right? That
Speaker 1: sounds great? Um anyway, Trisha is right there. Hello, all right,
Speaker 1: let me know when I'm on speaker. Let me tell
Speaker 1: me when I'm on speaker. On speaker, Sean, you're on speaker,
Speaker 1: all right? So can everybody hear me? That's there? You
Speaker 1: can you all hear me? They can't really hear you, Sean,
Speaker 1: Just tell them all I said, they're great Americans and
Speaker 1: I want them to have a great time tonight, and
Speaker 1: let's turn Minnesota Red. Tell them all that, well, Sean,
Speaker 1: le me, I gotta tell him. I want to hear
Speaker 1: the reaction to what I said, and then you can
Speaker 1: tell him good, he said, to tell he loves doing
Speaker 1: a great job and retire Minnesota Red. Y oh man,
Speaker 1: all right, what did you want to add? Tricia? Tell
Speaker 1: you that the live is full of women, and they
Speaker 1: promised me they're gonna turn this staintment, and they also said, Linda,
Speaker 1: they love you. Thank you Minnesota. You know it's so funny, Lawrence.
Speaker 1: You you know this game, you know, every everybody ends
Speaker 1: up loving Linda and thinking that I'm the devil. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: First of all, that's not true. They just like me
Speaker 1: more than you. That's all. Okay, Well, Lawrence, you know
Speaker 1: what it's funny. Now, Lawrence, I want you to describe.
Speaker 1: So anyway, private detail. Lawrence and I had a private
Speaker 1: dinner recently. And so I started at Fox when the
Speaker 1: first one on the air October sixth, nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1: After when I came up from Atlanta and Lawrence was
Speaker 1: four years old. I've now become my twenty fourth UNI
Speaker 1: twenty fourth anniversary. Why can't I tell people that? What
Speaker 1: do I always say to you? What do I There
Speaker 1: are two things I always say to you. Correct, that's correct. One,
Speaker 1: I say, You're gonna be a huge star. You've got,
Speaker 1: I mean, more natural talent than anybody I've ever met
Speaker 1: in TV. You're You're just and everybody loves you. What's
Speaker 1: the other thing that I always say to you? They
Speaker 1: always like, be humble, Be humble, dad of trouble, and
Speaker 1: I say, listen to your mom and dad. Your mom's
Speaker 1: a preacher, the preacher, my dad the start driver. Yes, yes, yes, right.
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you have been so amazing. I
Speaker 1: want to ask you this because I've you've gone on
Speaker 1: the road for us in liberal environments and conservative environments.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to ascertain what's the difference for you
Speaker 1: when you go into two different environments. You know, the love,
Speaker 1: the love, I mean, these are people that don't care
Speaker 1: about the skin color. They just really love America and
Speaker 1: they want to be You know, it's funny because I
Speaker 1: was around doing the Tea Party. That's when I first
Speaker 1: got into the conservative libertarian movement. And the Trump people
Speaker 1: are just like the tea Party media is that I
Speaker 1: used to join, And that's doing a period of time
Speaker 1: where I thought all the Republican when I used to
Speaker 1: be a living for racist and these people want to
Speaker 1: hug you, They want to hey, can we go get
Speaker 1: a drink? Just loving people. Uh. And I just wish
Speaker 1: the mainstream media with cover the love instead of trying
Speaker 1: to pick the one person, the one idiot out of
Speaker 1: a crowd and say this is a hateful person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you've been another environment for horrible things have
Speaker 1: been said to you. There's the reason why I have
Speaker 1: to travel with a security detail, now, Sean, is that
Speaker 1: because these people are vicious people. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: grew up in a tough environment, so I know I
Speaker 1: can take them. But if guys, I know I can
Speaker 1: take them, Okay, go ahead, keep going from there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can take them. I could take them, but they're
Speaker 1: there trying to destroy people. Because you see themselves if
Speaker 1: they try to antagonize you and they want you to
Speaker 1: hit them so they can have something, and that'll be
Speaker 1: the story. So I got to travel with a security
Speaker 1: detail because my dad, my second dad that's on, you know,
Speaker 1: to have his own radio show that I'm on, making
Speaker 1: me travel with a detail. Now, well, listen, I we
Speaker 1: love you. You've been doing an amazing job. I'm honored.
Speaker 1: We've developed a great friendship. I want you to be safe,
Speaker 1: always have fun. Tonight we'll put you on the President's
Speaker 1: speaking I guess sometime after eight, probably bleeding into my hour.
Speaker 1: Then we'll go to you tonight. Look forward to having
Speaker 1: you on and tell our friends there when you see
Speaker 1: everybody that John Hannity sends their love and a message.
Speaker 1: The messages turn Minnesota red. Okay, sir, We'll see you
Speaker 1: to night, exclusively unhanded at night on the Box News
Speaker 1: show All Right, Lawrence Jones, Fox News Special twenty twenty
Speaker 1: On the Road Election correspondent, investigative reporter and Tricia. I
Speaker 1: want to thank you too. You're amazing and tell everybody
Speaker 1: there I said, my love, well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you. How did you get so close
Speaker 1: to Tricia? You're so funny you get I met you
Speaker 1: at a Missouri actually I remember you gave me. That
Speaker 1: was at Cape Girardo. You gave me the book Maye.
Speaker 1: She came up to me from behind, and there was
Speaker 1: a bunch of people there. They heard me talking and
Speaker 1: one of the camera guys who was local there, Union guys,
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh my god, dear Linda, and I
Speaker 1: said yeah, and he goes, I recognize your accent. He goes,
Speaker 1: I'm a been listening to the show. I say, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. He goes, you gotta meet this
Speaker 1: lady over here. She's got a book. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: who doesn't. He goes, No, really, she's got a book
Speaker 1: and it's filled with all of Trump's tweets. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of incredible. So I went over. Trisha was
Speaker 1: there at a husband. They're super sweet, super nice, you know,
Speaker 1: and we just got to talking and we stay in
Speaker 1: touch because you know, she's you stay in touch with everybody.
Speaker 1: Linda talks to everybody, you know. I'm just looking at
Speaker 1: this and it does warm my heart. I mean, you
Speaker 1: see what is going on in this country. This is
Speaker 1: just the latest attempted coup attempt. You know. I'm reading
Speaker 1: an article that just came out and I'm like, how
Speaker 1: does this happen to our country? The headline on foxnews
Speaker 1: dot com newly declassified court documents reveal FBI FISA violations
Speaker 1: targeting Americans, and then Devin Newness and John Solomon on
Speaker 1: TV last night apparently they were surveiling John Solomon were
Speaker 1: reporting on Ukraine. Now, what you're saying is very alarming
Speaker 1: to me. I have three people now that have told
Speaker 1: me that they believe there is evidence that shows government
Speaker 1: resources we use to monitor communications. In one case, a
Speaker 1: journalist that is a regular on this program with the
Speaker 1: name John Solomon. Have you heard that, Congressman. Well, what
Speaker 1: I've heard, and I want to be clear, there's I
Speaker 1: think there's a there's a difference. What I've heard is
Speaker 1: that there were strange requests, irregular requests to monitor not
Speaker 1: just one journalist, but multiple journalists. Now, perhaps that was okay,
Speaker 1: Perhaps there was some reason for that that it can
Speaker 1: be explained away. But that's what we that's what we know,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're going to be looking into. Great,
Speaker 1: this is the country we live in. Let's let's let's
Speaker 1: impeach the president elected by the people, and let's weaponize
Speaker 1: the powerful tools of intelligence to do it. And let's
Speaker 1: use a Russian dacier as a means of spying on
Speaker 1: the president. Then we'll use foreign intelligence allies of ours
Speaker 1: to do the spying that would be illegal to do here,
Speaker 1: and we'll outsource it to circumvent laws. And when Russia Russia,
Speaker 1: Russia doesn't work, we'll just go to Ukraine when there's
Speaker 1: no issue. I'll be honest, I you know there are
Speaker 1: days that I in my heart, I don't know if
Speaker 1: we can even save this country from this madness. It's
Speaker 1: gotten so corrupt, the media is so corrupt, the deep
Speaker 1: state is so corrupt. You know, in all the years
Speaker 1: I've been doing this, and there's a lot thirty one.
Speaker 1: I never believed it could be this bad in this country.
Speaker 1: I always thought checks and balance it. I don't know anymore,
Speaker 1: but there is. According to what we're getting on the screen,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of what you might call now
Speaker 1: a breaking tweet from the President who says that tomorrow
Speaker 1: they will release a transcript of the Zelensky call. So
Speaker 1: my question to you is, if you see that transcript
Speaker 1: and it is more benign than we've been led to believe,
Speaker 1: will you do you think that your caucus might stand
Speaker 1: down a little bit or do you think that the
Speaker 1: caucus is at a boil right now? I mean, you're
Speaker 1: going to find out now. It's not about that. This
Speaker 1: is about the Constitution of the United States. And we
Speaker 1: have many other shall we say, candidates for impeachable offense
Speaker 1: in terms of the constitution moves in, but this one
Speaker 1: is the most understandable by the public, and it's really
Speaker 1: important to know this. It is there is no requirement
Speaker 1: there be a quid pro quote in the conversation. If
Speaker 1: the president brings up who wants them to investigate something
Speaker 1: that's of his political opponent, that is self evident that
Speaker 1: it is not right. We don't ask foreign governments to
Speaker 1: help us in LESSI that's what we'll try to stop this.
Speaker 1: Russia's wrong. Yeah, but the problem is, oh yeah Clinton
Speaker 1: did it, and oh yeah Obama did it, and well
Speaker 1: there was no quit pro quo and it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what the interpretation of any Oh, let's see whistleblower that's
Speaker 1: not a whistleblower has to say on it. And then
Speaker 1: she goes on to say at one point, remember Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi announcing this before we ever saw it, or did
Speaker 1: she because Adam Schiff apparently was working with the non
Speaker 1: whistleblower whistleblower Anyway, our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred
Speaker 1: and nine for one, Sean told free telephone number speaker
Speaker 1: Pelosi that the Democrats this is just what they wanted,
Speaker 1: which is why I played the montage that from yesterday
Speaker 1: on TV. It starts two days after he's elected two
Speaker 1: and it never ends joining us. Now, former Speaker of
Speaker 1: the House New Gingrich is with us. And by the way,
Speaker 1: he has given me an early copy about Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: saying she's playing checkers and Trump's playing chess. How are
Speaker 1: you well? I said, but that's not even true. Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi's playing solitaire. And the reason I say that, I
Speaker 1: want to him to say, I don't think you count
Speaker 1: play tick tack total. And the reason is pretty simple
Speaker 1: that you have all this effort right now to keep
Speaker 1: the leaker which is the right term for the whistle blower,
Speaker 1: to keep the leaks INNT wants to blow anything. He
Speaker 1: had no evidence firsthand of anything. So he's just a
Speaker 1: Lincoln's plowing all of the way in which the deep
Speaker 1: state tries to destroy Trump. So the Democrats are going
Speaker 1: to all this effort to keep this guy secret. Well,
Speaker 1: if they were to pass the impeachment of the sign
Speaker 1: in the House, it goes to the Senate, and Lindsey
Speaker 1: Graham as the challenge duiary communities already say it. He's
Speaker 1: going to bring this guy in in public under oath,
Speaker 1: reminding that the perjury means you can go to jail.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like they're not thinking about Act two.
Speaker 1: And I think the Democrats in that sense of just
Speaker 1: in such a frenzy that they have lost their minds
Speaker 1: about how this is going to work, and they've forgotten,
Speaker 1: you know, that it's not a one step game, and
Speaker 1: that the following steps are all bad for them. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm watching all of it, and even Ben Sasas is
Speaker 1: always critical of the president, said it's a you know,
Speaker 1: a partisan clown show. What's interesting to me watching this
Speaker 1: as an outsider, is well, you've been through this. You
Speaker 1: were speaker when there was Independent Council. That statute then
Speaker 1: changed to the Special Council. But there were eleven specific
Speaker 1: indictments that were put forward by Ken Starr in his
Speaker 1: final report. It's not like that this got hold out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. And when you set up the conditions in
Speaker 1: your particular case for the Democrats, the minority at the time,
Speaker 1: to deal with issues, well, you were fair. There was
Speaker 1: a full vote of the House. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: You also allowed all sorts of let's see every single
Speaker 1: He gave every single opportunity for them to present their
Speaker 1: case as well, did you not, Well, okay, we followed
Speaker 1: the same principles that had been established by Peter Rodino,
Speaker 1: a Democrat, in nineteen seventy three during Watergate, and we
Speaker 1: did it very deliberately. Henry Hyde was Chamber of Judiciary.
Speaker 1: He worked so well with John Conyers at that time
Speaker 1: that in their opening hearing, Conyers said this is the
Speaker 1: most bipartisan process he had ever been through in his career.
Speaker 1: Dick Gephart, the Democratic Leader, joined me in a press
Speaker 1: con for to say that we had mutually agreed to
Speaker 1: publish Star's entire report so the American people could see
Speaker 1: what Star was saying. I mean, there was a real effort,
Speaker 1: based on how they had handled Watergate, to make sure
Speaker 1: that the country could see that this was more than
Speaker 1: partisan politics. And in some of the early votes we
Speaker 1: got two out of every three Democrats voting with us.
Speaker 1: So I think it's very different from the way Pelosi
Speaker 1: is trying to handle it, and I think most of
Speaker 1: what she's doing, frankly, will end up backfiring on her
Speaker 1: because the average American is going to see clearly that
Speaker 1: it's not fair, it's not being done in an appropriate way,
Speaker 1: and as a result, I think that the country the
Speaker 1: longer this goes on, the more the country will realize
Speaker 1: that it's phony, which is exactly what happened last year
Speaker 1: with Kavanaugh, where initially people said, well, well that's true,
Speaker 1: Well going to turn out it was. And Trill and
Speaker 1: I think all these polling members have the same kind
Speaker 1: of effect if it was all true, if the New
Speaker 1: York Times in the Worship Post for an accurate you'd
Speaker 1: be in one world. But as this goes on, you'll
Speaker 1: discover I think that that's not where we are, and
Speaker 1: as a result, the case to the Democrats will just
Speaker 1: keep decaying. I look at Siboloni's letter. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a brutal takedown that he's sent to Pelosi, shiff
Speaker 1: and some others and calling what they are doing unconstitutional, invalid, baseless.
Speaker 1: And I see a lot of reasons for this. I
Speaker 1: think it's very obvious. Number one, they never accepted the
Speaker 1: results of the twenty sixteen election. You and I have
Speaker 1: discussed that many times. After four separate Russia Trump investigations
Speaker 1: culminating with Robert Muller, no collusion, no obstruction, they are
Speaker 1: even more unhinged because they had put everything banked on
Speaker 1: that completely as the way to take out the president.
Speaker 1: That didn't work out particularly well. And you know, Thirdly,
Speaker 1: I think al Green kind of telegraphed the real feelings
Speaker 1: that they have, which is they don't think they can
Speaker 1: beat Trump. But what they're doing here is they don't
Speaker 1: want to have a vote in the House and put
Speaker 1: everybody on record. I think that's a big problem, and
Speaker 1: instead that what they're doing in this particular case, A
Speaker 1: Sippoloni said, down, and this is designed and implemented. They're
Speaker 1: doing this in a manner that violates all fundamental fairness,
Speaker 1: constitutionally mandated due process. In this process, they're denying the
Speaker 1: president the right to cross examine witnesses, to call witnesses,
Speaker 1: to even receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence,
Speaker 1: to have counsel present, other basic fundamental guaranteed rights for
Speaker 1: all Americans. That would violate every aspect of constitutionality, rule
Speaker 1: of law, and past precedents. And you were involved in
Speaker 1: a past precedent, that's right, didn't Let's lets just start
Speaker 1: with the right to know who this leaker is. Because
Speaker 1: there was a procedure used for about one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty years called a star chamber, and the British government
Speaker 1: used it, and you could be pulled into that room.
Speaker 1: He had no idea who was accusing you of what
Speaker 1: they were accusing you of, what the evidence was, and
Speaker 1: the government's judges could put lock you up for thirty
Speaker 1: years and you had never had a chance to find
Speaker 1: out what the case was well in sixteen forty one,
Speaker 1: that's abolished. And when the founding fathers were right in
Speaker 1: the Constitution, they were very aware of the danger of
Speaker 1: not being allowed to face your accuser, and so they
Speaker 1: clearly wanted assistant that was fair and that gave people
Speaker 1: the right to protect themselves. And what the Democrats are
Speaker 1: doing right now it can only be described as crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, they believe that somebody can make a charge
Speaker 1: that will be used to overturn the American people's choice
Speaker 1: of president, and that person can do it in secret
Speaker 1: without being challenged. There's no precedent in American system anywhere
Speaker 1: for that kind of one side in process, and it's
Speaker 1: going to fall down on its own. Wait, and of
Speaker 1: course they put all this under Adam Schiff, and even
Speaker 1: the Washington Post gave Adam Schiff four pinocchios for playing
Speaker 1: out lying. Now, you know, if you're a liberal Democrat
Speaker 1: and you get four pinocchios from the Washington Post, you
Speaker 1: know you're doing something really wrong. And I think Shift
Speaker 1: in that sense is the worst possible person for them
Speaker 1: to put in this kind of situation, because in the end,
Speaker 1: nobody's going to believe him. Look, you've called this that
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm using the same term a coup.
Speaker 1: Everything that they've done I literally played. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw the montage, if you go to my
Speaker 1: Twitter account, we posted it. But they have said impeach
Speaker 1: and peach and peach all throughout two days, starting two
Speaker 1: days after Rump was elected, all through twenty seventeen, all
Speaker 1: through twenty eighteen, now all through twenty nineteen. This has
Speaker 1: been their ward and Nancy Pelosi when she announced the
Speaker 1: day before we even knew about what was in this,
Speaker 1: this conversation with the president and the President of Ukraine.
Speaker 1: We find out there's nothing. There's no there there, there's
Speaker 1: no quid pro quote, there's nothing that well, we have
Speaker 1: many options to impeach him. I mean, I've never I've
Speaker 1: never witnessed anything like this, considering the level of lawlessness here.
Speaker 1: You know, Rachel Peterson is my chief researcher, and for
Speaker 1: the last week she's been going back and the stuff
Speaker 1: she spounds unbelievable. The first wave of get rid of
Speaker 1: Trump rallies is on the ninth of November, the day
Speaker 1: after the election. By mid December, Vanity Fairs running a
Speaker 1: call an article about the impeachment movement, and on the
Speaker 1: day that Trump is sworn in at his inaugural, the
Speaker 1: Washington Post has an article on the Democrats planning to
Speaker 1: impeaching them. So the thing, that's why I called us
Speaker 1: a coup. This is an effort by left wing Democrats
Speaker 1: to overturn the American people's choice in who the president
Speaker 1: should be. It has no basis in any kind of reality.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think Pelosi was still revealing when
Speaker 1: the reporter said to her, well, what if this doesn't work,
Speaker 1: and she basically said, we'll find some other reasons. But
Speaker 1: as I said a while, the challenge she's dot is
Speaker 1: after they're done playing their partisan clowns. He has been
Speaker 1: SAS's line in the House, it's going to go to
Speaker 1: the Senate. And the more that they behave as really
Speaker 1: partisan clowns, the less likely it is that the Senate
Speaker 1: is going to take whatever they seriously. So in a
Speaker 1: very real sense, they're underminding their very own case. All right,
Speaker 1: As we continue, former Speaker of the House New King
Speaker 1: Richie has rightly identified with the Democrats are doing as
Speaker 1: a latest coup attempt. All right, so let's walk through
Speaker 1: this in your mind Okay, if if they're not going
Speaker 1: to offer the president due process, they're not going to
Speaker 1: have an up or down vote because they want to
Speaker 1: protect the forty Democrats that are in Trump won districts
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and they're just going to push it
Speaker 1: through anyway. Let's assume that they are successful. Okay, goes
Speaker 1: to the Senate, it dies, Boy Sean, think of at all.
Speaker 1: You just said, Oh, I'm aware of what I just said.
Speaker 1: It's insane. No, I'm just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The fact that they're avoiding a vote on the process
Speaker 1: doesn't save those members because in the end, they're going
Speaker 1: to have to get to a vote and do take
Speaker 1: somebody like like Peterson, who represents northern Minnesota in a
Speaker 1: district where Trump won by thirty points. And if Peterson
Speaker 1: comes in and votes to impeach, he might as well
Speaker 1: not run for reelection. And so I mean when I
Speaker 1: said the other day that you can drive through impeachment
Speaker 1: if you're prepared to commit suicide. But that's what that's
Speaker 1: what she's doing. She is setting up her majority to
Speaker 1: become a minority because she is putting member after member
Speaker 1: in a position. Now it could be that when the
Speaker 1: backlash builds enough, and I must say, the Trump campaign
Speaker 1: team and the Trump White House, uh and Rona McDonald
Speaker 1: over there and see are all doing a good job
Speaker 1: of building a backlash. Um, it could well be that
Speaker 1: at that point it just peters out and they don't
Speaker 1: get to a vote. But at that point that they're
Speaker 1: going to look pretty stupid though all the wapp they're
Speaker 1: all made all these strong announcements and then they're going
Speaker 1: to slink away and never ever vote. I think in
Speaker 1: some ways that could be amazingly constructive for them. What
Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna be. Do they back down
Speaker 1: or they go through with it? I would argue they're
Speaker 1: going to go through with it. I think I think
Speaker 1: they have to go through with it. I'm just so
Speaker 1: sooner or later. Nancy polos He was going to say
Speaker 1: to all of her marginal members, Genie, I really hate
Speaker 1: to do this to you, but you got to get
Speaker 1: up there and vote. And all of her marginal members
Speaker 1: are going to be told if you don't vote, yes,
Speaker 1: we're going to find somebody in the primary and we're
Speaker 1: going to beat you in the primary. And so I
Speaker 1: think she can coerce a majority out of the House.
Speaker 1: But in the process, m I think that they will
Speaker 1: be just they'll be wrecked as a party you combine
Speaker 1: the left wing proposals of their candidates. I mean, the
Speaker 1: other day, Biden, in a moment of typical irrationality, came
Speaker 1: out at the gay and lesbian well. He just said,
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I think people should be able
Speaker 1: to identify themselves and if guys want to go to
Speaker 1: the women's prisoners should be allowed to. Now, I think
Speaker 1: that's probably a losing issue, and I'd like to see
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth year of the contract a new contract
Speaker 1: promises to America, and this needs to be a nationally
Speaker 1: run election by Republicans. We'll talk about that next time.
Speaker 1: New King Rich former Speaker of the House Hannity dot Com.
Speaker 1: Mister Speaker has always thank you for being with us
Speaker 1: when we come back. Governor Scott Walker, the important swing
Speaker 1: state for twenty twenty Wisconsin. Where does Donald Trump stand
Speaker 1: say against Elizabeth Warren? That's next, all right, twenty five
Speaker 1: till the top of the hour, eight hundred and nine
Speaker 1: four one, Sean. If you want to be a part
Speaker 1: of the program so much, you know, coming out of
Speaker 1: as we've been talking to people on the ground in
Speaker 1: Minnesota and the big rally of the President tonight. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty funny stuff. I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: look at Twitter. This is this is not stuff we're reporting,
Speaker 1: but stuff that people are saying out to you know.
Speaker 1: The crowd is massive, has been massive. Apparently they're trying
Speaker 1: to bar people reporters from interviewing the people in line,
Speaker 1: you know, the smelly Walmart shoppers like me, the irredeemable, deplorable,
Speaker 1: and so obviously there's there's that component of it. They
Speaker 1: tried to shut it down ahead of time. And I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, it's apparently massive turnout that's going on there.
Speaker 1: Maybe we all ought to call it Maga sodas somebody
Speaker 1: said on Twitter, which was pretty funny. And anyway, people
Speaker 1: camped out like all these Trump rallies overnight, got there
Speaker 1: at seven am, you know, thousand people in line. Then
Speaker 1: the only holds nineteen thousand, three hundred people and maybe
Speaker 1: there's one report that they might have even taken away
Speaker 1: the porta potties. That's pretty desperate. That's pretty mean too. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it all comes down to we are almost a year
Speaker 1: out of what I think will be a tipping point
Speaker 1: election by far in the country. Assuming now that this
Speaker 1: is the Democratic side, it's Elizabeth Warrens to lose. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: look at her positions on everything. Well, you don't have
Speaker 1: to pay back your student debt rate to care for all,
Speaker 1: no private insurance, great, new green deal, get rid of
Speaker 1: oil gas, the combustion engine. Great, you're gonna get free
Speaker 1: pre K daycare, healthcare, free college, everything's free, guaranteed job,
Speaker 1: healthy food, and retirement whether you're willing or unwilling to work.
Speaker 1: And eventually planes in cows. They go to versus what
Speaker 1: the president has been doing and offering and the promises
Speaker 1: he's kept. One state that will define November election night
Speaker 1: twenty twenty is the great state of Wisconsin. And joining
Speaker 1: us now is the former governor. That's state. Scott Walker
Speaker 1: is with us. And by the way, he's been fighting
Speaker 1: on issues involving balanced budgets and fiscal sanity and letting
Speaker 1: the states have more control, which I've always believed in. Governor.
Speaker 1: How are you. It's great to talk to you, oh, Sean,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. It's a pleasure. I'm doing
Speaker 1: well and I know you're doing well. In America's doing
Speaker 1: always got to keep it going. Well. Well, I think
Speaker 1: that's true, all right. You know Wisconsin as well as anybody.
Speaker 1: I remember before twenty sixteen, I talked to a lot
Speaker 1: of people that know your state that were telling me
Speaker 1: Trump had no chance to win, and he did. Where
Speaker 1: do you think he stands at this moment because I
Speaker 1: don't think he's a particularly I don't think he's that
Speaker 1: politician that you can poll with any particular amount of accuracy. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right, John. I think it is
Speaker 1: going to be a title action. Remember he carried the state,
Speaker 1: which was the first time or Republican I carried it
Speaker 1: since Reagan did in nineteen eighty four. He carried it
Speaker 1: with a plurality that didn't get fifty percent, but got
Speaker 1: more than Hillary Clinton. And I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be that close again. If the facts get out, it
Speaker 1: should be a blowout. But as it is across America,
Speaker 1: we know that there are mini media outlets out there
Speaker 1: that keep the voters from the facts, that the stort
Speaker 1: the facts are just outright why out there. But I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be incredibly close. A poll this
Speaker 1: week from Fox News actually said he was down by
Speaker 1: nine points. I remind people that day if it's a
Speaker 1: Fox poll that you know, Dick Morris looked into the
Speaker 1: internals of this the questions prior to the impeachment question
Speaker 1: were you know, a negative towards Trump and number two
Speaker 1: there were forty eight you know percent of respondents were Democrats,
Speaker 1: only forty Republican. I mean, well, right, seean And the
Speaker 1: kicker of this is where my point is that the
Speaker 1: days before the twenty sixteen election, a Marquette University Law
Speaker 1: school poll in the state was pretty historically fairly reliable
Speaker 1: show Hillary Clinton winning by six points. Obviously she lost
Speaker 1: the election. I think it is always true in our
Speaker 1: state the Republicans poll lower than Democrats. I think it
Speaker 1: is multiplied by Donald Trump because part of the reason
Speaker 1: Republicans don't respond is they get tired of getting beat
Speaker 1: up by the media and posters for supporting Republicans. I
Speaker 1: think it's even more true of this president, and so
Speaker 1: I think it is close. But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: I would mourn those who, like myself, support the president.
Speaker 1: We cannot take it for granted because Wisconsin the key
Speaker 1: say you gotta win Wisconsin to win the president. Well,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, And you know, I look at
Speaker 1: the jobs that have been creative. Now I'll speak generally.
Speaker 1: I see the people of Wisconsin as as the heart
Speaker 1: and soul of America. The people that work hard, played
Speaker 1: by the rules, pay their taxes, contribute to society, raise
Speaker 1: their kids, and they are what makes America great. They
Speaker 1: are They're not attracted to the swamp the sewer that
Speaker 1: would be New York City or DC or San Francisco
Speaker 1: or Los Angeles. Now here the president we you know,
Speaker 1: the last eight years before President Trump got in an office,
Speaker 1: we had thirteen million more Americans on food stamps, eight
Speaker 1: million more in poverty, We had the worst recovery since
Speaker 1: the forties, the lowest labor participation rate since the seventies.
Speaker 1: Now we got seven million fewer people on food stamps,
Speaker 1: millions out of poverty, seven million new jobs, energy independence,
Speaker 1: and a president that's fighting for better trade deals that
Speaker 1: will greatly impact particularly farmers and dairy farmers in the
Speaker 1: great state of Wisconsin. So I think all of that
Speaker 1: would be good for Wisconsin. To the people of Wisconsin
Speaker 1: see that, or are they going to fall prey to
Speaker 1: the media perceptions on the president. Well, I think it's
Speaker 1: as split as it's ever been. People who get the facts.
Speaker 1: I always tell people, take your thumb and put it
Speaker 1: over the name of the person I'm talking about, which
Speaker 1: is exactly the list you rat it off. If I
Speaker 1: pointed out, not only is unemployment the lowest in America,
Speaker 1: it's been in roughly fifty years. In Wisconsin, it's never
Speaker 1: been lower than it's been the last year and a half.
Speaker 1: It's been consistently added below three percent, which was the
Speaker 1: previous all time low. You see record low unemployment levels
Speaker 1: for African American, Latino American, people with disabilities, veterans in
Speaker 1: this country. We see in Wisconsin, just as we see
Speaker 1: nationally more job openings than we actually have people to
Speaker 1: fill them. Ages are up. The economy is heading in
Speaker 1: the right direction. And a prime example, Sean, you mentioned
Speaker 1: that trade deal. You know, one of the biggest controversies
Speaker 1: I think that doesn't get covered is why Speaker Pelosi
Speaker 1: is sitting on this trade deal that the President negotiated
Speaker 1: with Mexico and Canada that would help me only dairy
Speaker 1: farmers in Wisconsin across the country and manufacturing workers. But
Speaker 1: we can't get Pelosi to get up and vote on
Speaker 1: it because she knows it'll pass if it gets voted on.
Speaker 1: But they don't want to give this president a victory.
Speaker 1: That is how shallow they have been becoming. Washington and
Speaker 1: the American people got to fight back. Well, I agree.
Speaker 1: Look stylistically, I'll take Paul Ryan for examples, and I
Speaker 1: know he's a good friend of yours. Paul Ryan does
Speaker 1: not like Donald Trump's style. Now, I've had this conversation
Speaker 1: with Mitt Romney. I said, you know, Mit, I said,
Speaker 1: I understand, you're a great guy. You're not a New
Speaker 1: York real estate mogul who wakes up in the morning
Speaker 1: and fights every day. You know, but they still when
Speaker 1: you ran for president, they tried to paint you as
Speaker 1: a racist and a misogynist and a sexist and a
Speaker 1: homophobe and everything in between. They did the same thing
Speaker 1: that John McCain. The only difference is Trump fought back.
Speaker 1: But everything Mitt Romney ran on, Well, the President's putting
Speaker 1: originalists on the court. He gave us the biggest tax
Speaker 1: cut in history. The president also got rid of more
Speaker 1: bureaucracy than every president in the past hundred years. He's
Speaker 1: building the Wall. He delivered on trade deals with Japan,
Speaker 1: Western Europe, Canada, Mexico, and he's trying now with China.
Speaker 1: I mean, so, why do I establish Republicans hate um? Well,
Speaker 1: he put the embassy in Jerusalem, as everyone else had promised,
Speaker 1: but only he had the guts to do. He's the
Speaker 1: most pro life president in modern American history, including even
Speaker 1: more so than the guy I idolized, Ronald Reagans. He
Speaker 1: had done it all. And one of the things stron
Speaker 1: you'll appreciate this. I love seeing newly here in Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: but across the nation, and that is Washington is filled
Speaker 1: with politicians who say and talk the right way, but
Speaker 1: don't do squad On occasion, this president might say or
Speaker 1: tweet something somewhat different than I had a lot of
Speaker 1: people have been Westwood. But you know what, I'll take
Speaker 1: that because he actually gets the job done. I'll take
Speaker 1: that over people who talk right but don't get the
Speaker 1: job done. We got a president who gets the job done,
Speaker 1: and we need to remind our fellow citizens, our neighbors
Speaker 1: or friends, the people we worship with that's the only
Speaker 1: way he's going to win this election. That's the only
Speaker 1: way to count the onslaught of attacks. And believe me,
Speaker 1: we know it. We saw it here in Wisconsin. You
Speaker 1: covered it. You know what we faced. We had. How
Speaker 1: many elections did you have and how many years? Because
Speaker 1: they were after you every day they were. They actually
Speaker 1: registered a website domain name called recall Scott Walker dot
Speaker 1: com on the day I was elected at twenty ten.
Speaker 1: I can absolutely relate to the president. They've been trying
Speaker 1: to impeach him since they wanted it. Didn't matter what
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, Mike Goodness, as you've covered, Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi hadn't even read the transcript before she announced it.
Speaker 1: This is what we're up against here in Wisconsin, across
Speaker 1: the nation, people who care not just about themselves, but
Speaker 1: care about their kids, their grandkids in future generations. I
Speaker 1: got to stand up because we cannot let whether it's
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Laurren or Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders or any
Speaker 1: of the other socialist or want to be socialist out
Speaker 1: there control of this country, because they will set us
Speaker 1: back so far. Let me ask the direct question you're in.
Speaker 1: Let's assume I'm right, and it's Elizabeth warrens to lose.
Speaker 1: It's Trump versus Warren. Look and assume for a minute too,
Speaker 1: that they impeach the president. It goes nowhere in the
Speaker 1: Senate over nothing. I mean, it's the most ridiculous thing
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Okay, who wins in Wisconsin's if it's
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren. You know her positions as well as this
Speaker 1: audience does. Yeah, I think more than the fact that
Speaker 1: she's a socialist, more of the fact that she wants
Speaker 1: to shut down dairy farmers and get rid of planes
Speaker 1: and do all sorts of things that would not fare
Speaker 1: well Wisconsin. I think the biggest problem she's going to
Speaker 1: have in Wisconsin. Why Trump will win against Elizabeth Lawn
Speaker 1: is because she's a fraud. I firmly believe voters who
Speaker 1: were on the bubble in Wisconsin did not vote for
Speaker 1: Hillary because they thought she would do and say absolutely
Speaker 1: anything to get elected. It may not have always agreed
Speaker 1: with what the president said, but they knew he was
Speaker 1: a straight shooter who said what he was going to do.
Speaker 1: With that he has done it, and I think that's
Speaker 1: a great contrast. The biggest worry I have isn't her
Speaker 1: or by It's Bernie Sanders. As crazy as his ideas are,
Speaker 1: the one thing I'll give him is he is who
Speaker 1: he says he is. The others are just want to
Speaker 1: be who will say anything to get elected. Well, I
Speaker 1: think Elizabeth Warren basically adopts everything Bernie adopts and then
Speaker 1: puts it on steroids exactly. I mean, she's further to
Speaker 1: the lip it. I mean even this stuff with her
Speaker 1: false claim about not going to get job as a teacher,
Speaker 1: the false claim about her Native American heritage, all those things.
Speaker 1: I think for people who are up in the air,
Speaker 1: those are things that really strike them. As you mentioned
Speaker 1: in your introduction, the people in the Midwest year are honest, good, decent,
Speaker 1: hardworking people. They'll treat you nice, but they stand up
Speaker 1: for their values, and more than anything else, they value
Speaker 1: people who are authentic, people who tell the truth, who
Speaker 1: tell it like it is. That's what this president it does.
Speaker 1: People like Elizabeth Lawn are just posers who shift this way. Governor,
Speaker 1: she's trying to shake it from Bernie. Stay right there.
Speaker 1: I know you're working on dead issues. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about that, Governor Scott Walker, Wisconsin with US
Speaker 1: eight hundred and nine for one Sean Tolfrey telephone number
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. Wow, if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen the allegation about Matt Lower the front cover of
Speaker 1: Today's New York Post. Matt Lower raped me. I mean
Speaker 1: this back and forth in this new book by Ronan Farrow.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that with Danielle and Jonathan and also
Speaker 1: the issue of the NBA in China as right as
Speaker 1: we continue. Former Governor Great State of Wisconsin, Scott Walker.
Speaker 1: By the way, how are you packers this year? They
Speaker 1: look pretty good. Aaron Rodgers is amazing. Yeah, big big
Speaker 1: gwinn in the Cowboy territory of Texas. Oh, I mean
Speaker 1: was a blowout. That was a great game. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, so I agree with you, and I
Speaker 1: think Trump is facing the same scenario that Reagan faced.
Speaker 1: Reagan comes into office, he called the military divide a
Speaker 1: gap of vulnerability because ships couldn't go out to see
Speaker 1: they didn't have spare parts. He had to spend a
Speaker 1: lot of money in his first term in particular, and
Speaker 1: it didn't put the debt up. And President Trump to
Speaker 1: get the money to rebuild the military, you know, similarly
Speaker 1: is and he's saying it. He spent more money than
Speaker 1: he ever wanted to, but that's how he got the
Speaker 1: deal done. And he plans on dealing with the debt
Speaker 1: in the second term, assuming he gets it. This thing
Speaker 1: is hanging over our head. We got to get rid
Speaker 1: of it, and you're trying to deal with it. Well,
Speaker 1: that's exactly right, and a lot better off right now
Speaker 1: if he didn't have to get things through Nancy Pelosi's
Speaker 1: house this last year. Long term, obviously we're better off
Speaker 1: if Kevin McCarthy's there and there's a whole new slave
Speaker 1: of leaders. But even beyond this president and get God
Speaker 1: willing he gets reelected long term, we've seen this is
Speaker 1: one of those issues that goes through administrations and to
Speaker 1: your commerses at both parties. The way Washington is set up,
Speaker 1: I just think the Congress is incapable of reigning in
Speaker 1: the deficit. And it turned the long term debt. You know,
Speaker 1: it nearly doubled when Bush was president, it nearly doubled
Speaker 1: when Obama's president. It's approaching by twenty twenty five thirty
Speaker 1: trillion dollars. And those numbers sound so big, but I
Speaker 1: tell people that's like having a kid making forty six
Speaker 1: grand a year carrying three hundred thousand dollars worth of debt.
Speaker 1: And that's just one of the things that we'd all
Speaker 1: have an intervention with that person to get them back
Speaker 1: on track. They're spending more than they take in the
Speaker 1: federalgrament's got to do. What The good news is, there's
Speaker 1: a solution. We can pass a balanced budget min and
Speaker 1: just like Reagan push for, and the way to do
Speaker 1: it is not to rely on Congress, is to get
Speaker 1: two thirds of the states to do it. Twenty eight
Speaker 1: of the thirty four needed have already passed it, and
Speaker 1: we've got a plan over the next two years to
Speaker 1: get those last remaining six states. All right, Scott Walker,
Speaker 1: by the way, it's been a while, You've always been
Speaker 1: a good friend of the program. I know you're going
Speaker 1: to help the president and as real luck, would you
Speaker 1: ever consider going into the administration? Well, I told the
Speaker 1: President earlier this year the best way I can help
Speaker 1: him is make sure he wins the states. So I'm
Speaker 1: proud to be as chairman in Wisconsin and we'll see
Speaker 1: what God's got planned for the future. But we got
Speaker 1: to get him elected first and foremost. We got to
Speaker 1: get him some help in the House, and we've got
Speaker 1: to take on long term mus issues like the balance budget.
Speaker 1: So we've got more details at Scott Walker dot com.
Speaker 1: But we'd love to have people join our fight here
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, across the nation. All right, Governor, thank you
Speaker 1: for being with us. Eight hundred and nine four one. Sean,
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. Wow,
Speaker 1: the issue the NBA and China, the front cover tabloid
Speaker 1: New York New York Post, Matt Lower raped me. Wow,
Speaker 1: We'll get to that, Danielle Jonathan. Next, stay right here
Speaker 1: for our final news round up and information overload. After
Speaker 1: so many people have been chasing this for so long,
Speaker 1: why do you think they are now coming forward. Look,
Speaker 1: each of these sources really tore their guts out giving
Speaker 1: these horrifying details. This was a traumatic experience to relieve
Speaker 1: these events, and there's very little upside for them. You know.
Speaker 1: This was a brave and iportant thing they did, and
Speaker 1: they did it because they thought it could prevent potentially
Speaker 1: future crimes. Again and again, sources talked about doing that
Speaker 1: because they felt there was a change in the culture,
Speaker 1: that there was more of a culture accountability now. As
Speaker 1: something you may know, I issued a statement shortly before
Speaker 1: this press conference because I thought there was a lot
Speaker 1: of misunderstanding out there about our position. I thought we
Speaker 1: had been somewhat straightforward, but I can understand, given translations
Speaker 1: and given interpretations in different parts of the world, why
Speaker 1: there might have been some confusion. And essentially what I've
Speaker 1: said in that statement is the long held values of
Speaker 1: the NBA are to support freedom of expression and certainly
Speaker 1: freedom of expression by members of the NBA community, and
Speaker 1: in this case, Daryl Morey, as the general manager of
Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets, enjoys that right as one of our employees.
Speaker 1: What I also tried to suggest is I understand that
Speaker 1: there are consequences from that exercise, in essence his freedom
Speaker 1: of speech, and you know, we will have to live
Speaker 1: with those consequences. It's my hope that for our Chinese
Speaker 1: fans and our partners in China, they will see those
Speaker 1: remarks in the context of now a three decade, if
Speaker 1: not longer, relationship and that we've done in partnership with
Speaker 1: the Chinese Basketball Association, the Department of Education, and many
Speaker 1: different businesses in China. I feel enormous amount to build
Speaker 1: the sport, to work in communities, to focus on healthy lifestyles,
Speaker 1: and that's where we find ourselves. But that as a
Speaker 1: league we are not willing to compromise those values. And
Speaker 1: again I'm sympathetic to our interests here and to our
Speaker 1: partners who are upset, and I don't think it's inconsistent
Speaker 1: on one hand to be sympathetic to them and at
Speaker 1: the same time stand by our principles. We are not
Speaker 1: apologizing for Darryl exercising his freedom of expression. I regret
Speaker 1: again having communicated directly with many friends in China, that
Speaker 1: so many people are upset, including millions and millions of
Speaker 1: our fans. I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know, we come with basketball as an opportunity to
Speaker 1: sell dreams, sell hopes that to you know, reacently focus
Speaker 1: on physical fitness. Hi, Christina mcfallen's CNN. The NBA has
Speaker 1: always been a league that prides itself on its player
Speaker 1: and its coaches being able to speak out openly about
Speaker 1: political and societal affairs. I just wonder, after the events
Speaker 1: of this week and the fall out we've seen, whether
Speaker 1: you would both feel differently about speaking out in that
Speaker 1: way in future. It's a legitimate question. This is an
Speaker 1: event that's happened this week during during the NBA, and
Speaker 1: the answer this particular question has not been listed Jane An,
Speaker 1: you have a question, gentlemen in friends all right? That
Speaker 1: was that last cut. That was a question of a
Speaker 1: reporter and not allowing NBA players to even be asked
Speaker 1: a single question about about this entire issue. You know,
Speaker 1: Jason Whitlock, who was with Fox Sports one, was almos
Speaker 1: Us on Hannity last night. I mean, it's it's devastating,
Speaker 1: um because you have the NBA commissioner, you know, Adam
Speaker 1: silver Is, you know, where is he on this whole thing.
Speaker 1: They have no problem with NBA players trashing Donald Trump
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, but China. Now, Whitlock made an
Speaker 1: interesting point. He thinks it's all connected to Nike. That
Speaker 1: the NBA is an eight billion dollars a year business,
Speaker 1: which I had no idea about, But Nike's like forty
Speaker 1: billion dollars a year, and a lot of it comes
Speaker 1: down to money in all of this, and the NBA just,
Speaker 1: you know, basically, you know, bowing down to communist Chinese
Speaker 1: and they're not going to allow anybody to speak out
Speaker 1: or stand for freedom as it relates to Hong Kong
Speaker 1: and the Chinese crack down there. And before that, you
Speaker 1: heard Matt Lower hailing Ronan Farrow for exposing the Harvey
Speaker 1: Weinstein scandal. Well, I don't think he feels the same
Speaker 1: way today. The front page headline in the New York
Speaker 1: Post as Matt Lower raped me, NBC anchor all lies.
Speaker 1: We had a consensual affair, And it's a back and
Speaker 1: forth between the two of them. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know how to interpret it.
Speaker 1: She claimed that that he raped her, and he's claiming
Speaker 1: that is false, and I don't know how to How
Speaker 1: does one ascertain the truth in a lot of these cases? Now?
Speaker 1: He also goes on to say nothing could be further
Speaker 1: from the truth. There was nothing aggressive about the encounter.
Speaker 1: She didn't cry, she didn't do this, and at no
Speaker 1: time did she behave in any way that made it
Speaker 1: appear that she was incapable of consent. And then apparently
Speaker 1: he's claiming that this extramarital affair went on for some
Speaker 1: time thereafter, wasn't just a one night thing in so
Speaker 1: she or apparently this started anyway. Joining us to help
Speaker 1: break all this men this down and maybe get to
Speaker 1: some truth. Here is Jonathan Gillum and Danielle McLaughlin. Thank
Speaker 1: you both for being with us, Danielle, let's start with
Speaker 1: the lour issue. Two very distinctly different accounts here by
Speaker 1: two individuals. How do we get to truth in a
Speaker 1: moment like that? Okay, Sean, Hey, Jonathan, it's it's madness
Speaker 1: this right, it's it's so hard to know in these
Speaker 1: situations with all the information we have, which is frankly
Speaker 1: not that much. An excerpt from Ronan Farrow's book What
Speaker 1: Really Happened Here? And you know, see, this is what
Speaker 1: we have the legal system for. If she wants to
Speaker 1: press charges, if she wants to follow this through, she
Speaker 1: will have every opportunity to do that, and a jury
Speaker 1: of their peers will get to the truth. Clearly, this
Speaker 1: is going to be discussed in media. There are always
Speaker 1: concerns where you have to the people in positions of
Speaker 1: power and under these circumstances, and there are always problems
Speaker 1: when you have issues of alcohol. She claims she was
Speaker 1: incapable of consent because she had had, I think in
Speaker 1: a lot of vodka that night when they were all out.
Speaker 1: She said she had six shots of acca. But what
Speaker 1: Lauer is saying that it was an extramarital affair, but
Speaker 1: consensual sexual encounters and saying that he had this affair
Speaker 1: with her beginning in twenty fourteen when she came to
Speaker 1: his room late one night in Sochi, Russia. Again that's
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, and she said that she and Lower did
Speaker 1: go on to have more sexual encounters, some of which
Speaker 1: she initiated. It was completely transactional. Transactional, she says, not
Speaker 1: a relationship. Does that impact the story at all that
Speaker 1: after this incident, as she didn't report it and be
Speaker 1: she continued to have then she moved on to an
Speaker 1: affair with him if you believe her account in the
Speaker 1: first place. I know, as a matter of law, you know,
Speaker 1: all of those things may come before a jury, and
Speaker 1: there are instances where people are married and there are
Speaker 1: a sexual assault within that marriage. So consent is what
Speaker 1: matters here and the facts will come out if this
Speaker 1: in fact comes into into a legal situation. This is
Speaker 1: awful and horrible, and I have great sympathy, particularly for
Speaker 1: her because she is the person who is not in
Speaker 1: a position of power. But it's not for me to
Speaker 1: assist who was right and who was wrong, and who
Speaker 1: was telling the truth and who was lying. That's how
Speaker 1: courts are for all, right. Jonathan Gillham, what's your take
Speaker 1: on first Allower situation. Then we'll get to the NBA
Speaker 1: in China. Well, so I try to stay very, very
Speaker 1: neutral and unemotional in these situations because we don't know
Speaker 1: what the truth is. I think Danielle said something there
Speaker 1: that is typical of society now. And I'm not just
Speaker 1: saying liberals a typical society where they say I'm sympathetic
Speaker 1: for the female because of this, but we don't know
Speaker 1: what happened. Well, I don't apply sympathy or emotions in
Speaker 1: a case like this, where allegations are made like this
Speaker 1: in the court of public opinion, because we don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't even know the reality of any
Speaker 1: of this stuff because it's one person saying something and
Speaker 1: the other person saying another one, and a reporter, not
Speaker 1: a law enforcement officer who's collected evidence at the moment
Speaker 1: of the crime. We're not talking about something like that.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a reporter who is going to make
Speaker 1: money off of a book, and the more salacious he
Speaker 1: can make it, the better. And so that's I don't
Speaker 1: put a lot of stock in these types of things.
Speaker 1: And I think this bad part about this is that
Speaker 1: for people who are actually raped and who go through
Speaker 1: these situations. The way that the public looks at it
Speaker 1: now is there are a lot of people are afraid
Speaker 1: to bring these allegations out because they're afraid of repercussions,
Speaker 1: and so they don't go and report it right away.
Speaker 1: That or, like I was saying, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: saying this for years, since I've been on radio and TV.
Speaker 1: It's something like this happens tone and you're afraid to
Speaker 1: come out, write down what happened, have a witness, sign
Speaker 1: it still the envelope, and send it to yourself. At
Speaker 1: least you're going to say this is from that day
Speaker 1: and age. And we just have people who are not
Speaker 1: at this point, who are not thinking in that why
Speaker 1: they're just saying, well, we're not going to do anything,
Speaker 1: and then they bring it in the court of public opinion,
Speaker 1: and if it actually did happen to them, it kind
Speaker 1: of degrades their story. And that's a sad part about this.
Speaker 1: I just I've really done a pretty good job I
Speaker 1: think learning a lesson of Richard Jewell, and instinctively I said, well,
Speaker 1: just because he lives with his mother doesn't mean he
Speaker 1: fit the profile. Of the lone bomber. And you know,
Speaker 1: we've talked about this a lot, Danielle on this show.
Speaker 1: We we withhold judgment. We believe in due process. You know,
Speaker 1: look at the rest of look a look at the
Speaker 1: rest of the media mob. We were right about Uva.
Speaker 1: We were right about the Ducal Cross situation. We ended
Speaker 1: up being right about Ferguson Missouri and George Zimmerman and Baltimore,
Speaker 1: Maryland and Cambridge police. We were right about vetting Obama.
Speaker 1: We were right in the end. I think Kavanaugh, that
Speaker 1: whole story fell apart, right about this kid, Nicholas Sandman
Speaker 1: and everybody else rushes to judgment. I just I cannot
Speaker 1: tell my audience that I know what happened in the
Speaker 1: matt lower case. I don't know. No, and you don't,
Speaker 1: and Jonathan doesn't and I don't and I certainly don't
Speaker 1: profess to know. And thing they both say is that
Speaker 1: they had an extra marital affair. She's saying that it
Speaker 1: was initiated with being raped in Sochi in Russia in
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, right, And I will say, there's a reason
Speaker 1: we have courts of law to determine what really to
Speaker 1: get to the facts. So there isn't a sort of
Speaker 1: this trial in the public, okay, based on what we
Speaker 1: have in the record and that he said she said,
Speaker 1: how does that play out in a courtroom? In your view?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. One thing I will say
Speaker 1: is if she accuses him of a crime and that
Speaker 1: is found to be false, as she's lying that five
Speaker 1: years after the fact, apparently she but hey, we know
Speaker 1: she didn't file a police report. It's five years now
Speaker 1: after them. It's not unusual. Okay, I've granted it's not.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm agreeing with you. That's why I'm asking.
Speaker 1: But it's five years later. She didn't file on an
Speaker 1: initial report. She had the extramarital affair, by her own
Speaker 1: admission later. So bring it to a court of law.
Speaker 1: How does that play out you're the lawyer. Come down
Speaker 1: to it's going to come down to the credibility of
Speaker 1: the two of them. It's going to come down to
Speaker 1: Hoojura's belief. That's that's all that really matters in this case.
Speaker 1: She could have married him, and she could still, you know,
Speaker 1: bring a claim if she believes that she has the
Speaker 1: facts to do it. My point is that there could
Speaker 1: be along an ongoing sexual you know, engagement. Walk us
Speaker 1: through the court process. I'm asking you very specifically, it's
Speaker 1: in a court of law, Yes, walk us through. Okay.
Speaker 1: Lowers lawyers go after her right, okay, So that it
Speaker 1: was consentual. They're going to say it was consentual, and
Speaker 1: that was evidence by the fact that she was in
Speaker 1: a long term relationship with him. Okay. Now, now, shar
Speaker 1: lawyers are going to say, yeah, she did have the
Speaker 1: consensual relationship later, but this did happen, correct, So now
Speaker 1: maybe she told somebody at the time. Okay, Let's let's
Speaker 1: assume that happened, okay, and reportedly she did. Reportedly they
Speaker 1: were she had Jonathan, you made this point earlier, the
Speaker 1: sort of contemporaneous reporting, So you write something down, or
Speaker 1: you tell a friend. The laws of the rules of
Speaker 1: evidence in a courtroom give a lot of stock to
Speaker 1: to to win. A person who has is making accusation
Speaker 1: or is innocent of something tells somebody else at the time,
Speaker 1: there is weight given to those statements on the basis
Speaker 1: that they are generally reliable. So if she told a
Speaker 1: lot of people, if she confided in someone, that boosts
Speaker 1: that bolst is her credibility. Well, you know, again, we
Speaker 1: don't know what the truth is. But when you are
Speaker 1: looking at credibility, if they were to bring up the
Speaker 1: stuff that mattl Oerson, you know, it goes both ways
Speaker 1: because the court is gonna air on the facts, and
Speaker 1: if the facts are hearsay, it's just simply it's what
Speaker 1: you see in the media every day with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: They're just trying to destroy credibility. And that's exactly what's
Speaker 1: going to happen if this would ever come to a case.
Speaker 1: But I honestly don't see how this could come to
Speaker 1: a case myself. If it does, it's a frivolous case.
Speaker 1: And I think that you know, the attorneys are that
Speaker 1: are going to be going back and forth on this
Speaker 1: are really going to be trying to push the fact.
Speaker 1: At least Matt Lower's attorneys would be pushing the fact
Speaker 1: that she didn't work for him under his authority, they
Speaker 1: had continuous affair. What if she's telling the truth though,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they're gonna say that again, I'm
Speaker 1: playing devil's advocate. Yeah. Now, that's that's the hard part
Speaker 1: about this, and that's why I always that's what I
Speaker 1: always saying, you know when I if I ask people
Speaker 1: on things is if something happened to your first thing
Speaker 1: I do is tell somebody. The second thing you gotta
Speaker 1: do is you need to get a rape kit. You
Speaker 1: need to get things done because this is you don't
Speaker 1: want to get yourself into this situation. All right, thank
Speaker 1: you both hard issues, and I'll tell you. And then
Speaker 1: we didn't get time to get to the China issue
Speaker 1: with the NBA. We'll hit that at the other side
Speaker 1: of this break. Eight hundred and nine for one Sean
Speaker 1: Tolfrey telephone number HI twenty five to the top of
Speaker 1: the hour. All right, let me play the Today's Show.
Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie and Hoda reacting to the front cover of
Speaker 1: the New York Post today, Matt Lower raped For the
Speaker 1: first time, we're hearing from the woman who's complaint led
Speaker 1: to Matt Lower's fiery The former NBC News employee, whose
Speaker 1: identity has been kept anonymous by NBC News at her request,
Speaker 1: is now speaking out publicly. The woman Brooke Neville's sat
Speaker 1: down with Ronan Farrow for his new book, Catch and Kill.
Speaker 1: NBC News has not obtained a copy of the book,
Speaker 1: but Variety did and release details of her interview overnight
Speaker 1: in the book, Neville's alleged lower raped her in his
Speaker 1: hotel room at the twenty fourteen Socie Olympics, Like we
Speaker 1: owe it to our viewers to pause for a moment.
Speaker 1: You know, this is shocking and appalling, and I honestly
Speaker 1: don't even know what to say about it. I want
Speaker 1: to say that we I know it wasn't easy for
Speaker 1: our colleague book to come forward, then it's not easy now,
Speaker 1: and we support her and any women who have come
Speaker 1: forward with claims, and it's just very painful for all
Speaker 1: of us at NBC and who are at the Today Show,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's very, very, very difficult. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you and I'm having a weird moment that we
Speaker 1: were sitting here just like this two years ago, and
Speaker 1: truth be told, Savannah, I did a little prayer upstairs
Speaker 1: just before, just to sort of sort out what we
Speaker 1: were going to do. And I think it's it's like
Speaker 1: you feel like you've known someone for twelve years. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have ever felt like that.
Speaker 1: You know someone, you know them, you feel like you
Speaker 1: know them inside and out, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like a door opens up and it's a part of
Speaker 1: them you didn't know, and we don't know all the
Speaker 1: facts and all of this, but there are not allegations
Speaker 1: of an affair. There are allegations of a crime, and
Speaker 1: I think that's shocking to all of us here who've
Speaker 1: sat with Matt for many, many years. So I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna just sort of continue to process this part
Speaker 1: of this horrific story. And as you said, you know
Speaker 1: our thoughts or with Brook that's not easy. What she
Speaker 1: did to come forward not easy at all, And I
Speaker 1: think I speak for all of us. We're disturbed in
Speaker 1: our core. Yeah, and we have a commitment to keep
Speaker 1: even for house and we will continue to do that. Well,
Speaker 1: then this what we played earlier, I'll play it again,
Speaker 1: Matt Lower hailing the author of this book, Ronan Farroh,
Speaker 1: on a previous occasion for exposing Harvey Weinstein and that scandal.
Speaker 1: Ronan Farrow was a contributor for The New Yorker and
Speaker 1: an NBC News contributing correspondent as well. Ronan, good morning
Speaker 1: to you. You've been working this story for a long time,
Speaker 1: both for NBC News and The New Yorker. I know
Speaker 1: it has been a long and difficult process to get
Speaker 1: these actresses to be identified and go on the record
Speaker 1: with their allegations. After so many people have been chasing
Speaker 1: this for so long, why do you think they are
Speaker 1: now coming forward. Look, each of these sources really tore
Speaker 1: their guts out giving these horrifying details. This was a
Speaker 1: traumatic experience to relieve these events, and there's very little
Speaker 1: upside for them. You know, this was a brave and
Speaker 1: important thing they did, and they did it because they
Speaker 1: thought it could prevent potentially crimes. Again and again. Source
Speaker 1: has talked about doing that because they felt there was
Speaker 1: a change in the culture, that there is more of
Speaker 1: a culture accountability. Now, all right, eight hundred ninety four one, Sean,
Speaker 1: I'm we're gonna get to your calls here. I look,
Speaker 1: I see you guys have really engaged in this. I
Speaker 1: think I said it best with Danielle and Jonathan. I
Speaker 1: don't know the answer. I think we've done a very
Speaker 1: good job on this program of believing in due process, Linda.
Speaker 1: Take for example, with the Abanati case. Remember Avanati's girlfriend.
Speaker 1: You know he had three separate jurisdictions investigating him. Now,
Speaker 1: I could have treated Abanati the way he treated Justice
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh with Julie sweat Nick. But that's not who we
Speaker 1: are and that's not what we do. And I learned
Speaker 1: that lesson with Richard Jewell. It has served us this
Speaker 1: program and my TV show well over the years. You know,
Speaker 1: how is it everybody in the media gets it wrong
Speaker 1: about Nicholas Sandman rush to judgment, Justice Cavanaugh, rush to judgment,
Speaker 1: you know, Duke Lacrosse rushed to judgment UVA, same story,
Speaker 1: Ferguson Missouri, same story, Freddie Gray Baltimore, creating an expectation
Speaker 1: of a result that was never going to happen. And
Speaker 1: we work our sources. You know. For example, I knew
Speaker 1: early on when nobody else knew. I had sources off
Speaker 1: the record telling me we have eyewitnesses that contradict everything
Speaker 1: that is that the media is telling us. I knew it,
Speaker 1: so I worked my sources. Same with in the case,
Speaker 1: going back to Richard Jewell, you know. Or for example,
Speaker 1: when the Duke Lacrosse situation happened, Well, okay, they're making
Speaker 1: allegations against kids. Some of these kids came from New York.
Speaker 1: I went out to their house and I talked to
Speaker 1: some of the parents and kids and I got a
Speaker 1: different side of the story. And what eighty ninety Duke
Speaker 1: professors at the time, you know, basically saying they're all
Speaker 1: guilty and you don't know. You read a headline like this,
Speaker 1: Matt Lower raped me, and Matt Lower came out with
Speaker 1: a statement absolutely denying it. The one thing that they
Speaker 1: did agree on is after this incident in twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: in Sochi, Russia, that they did have an ongoing affair.
Speaker 1: They both admit to that. But then again, you know,
Speaker 1: it's five years later. How does this play out? Where's
Speaker 1: the truth? What if she did tell apparently she did
Speaker 1: tell people at the time it had happened. You're all
Speaker 1: looking at me like I don't know the answer. I'm
Speaker 1: I am saying I don't know, But that's what we
Speaker 1: always do until we do know. We were right about
Speaker 1: Trump Russia collusion. Nobody else was, and we're also right
Speaker 1: about this Ukraine thing with Joe Biden. Nobody else is
Speaker 1: reporting that Joe Biden's on tape admitting it. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: your thoughts, I mean, listen, you know, we could talk
Speaker 1: about this all day, and I'm sure the audience hang on.
Speaker 1: We can talk about it all about it all day,
Speaker 1: you know, talk about it. We'll have a couple of coffee,
Speaker 1: will talk about it. You know, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: if he did it, I'm like, oh my gosh, somebody
Speaker 1: like that. No presumption of innocence. Now, listen, the guy's
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a sketchy past, right, got
Speaker 1: a button under his desk that locks in his office. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's weird. We'll hang on. He denied that too in
Speaker 1: my statement. Now, there are multiple women that have come
Speaker 1: out and said I was in his office, there is
Speaker 1: a button. Until I see that desk with the button,
Speaker 1: I don't believe anything, right, because that's that's the whole
Speaker 1: point of being presumed innocent until proven guilty. You know,
Speaker 1: one person's word against another person's word is not guilt.
Speaker 1: You know. The only other way to get guilt beyond
Speaker 1: the evidence is at an emission, you know. So it's
Speaker 1: that's why it's interesting how it parallels to the Biden thing. Right,
Speaker 1: So mainstream networks are not giving Biden anytime. We're not hearing,
Speaker 1: we're not hearing about what he did, what his son did.
Speaker 1: You know how much money these guys made, where it
Speaker 1: came from the funneling, you know, we spent twenty five
Speaker 1: million tacks pay of dollars to find out that the
Speaker 1: president had nothing to do with Russia. Since Russia didn't
Speaker 1: work out, we're gonna look at Ukraine. We have evidence
Speaker 1: of previous presidents and vice presidents doing the faious things.
Speaker 1: Whether it was giving one hundred and fifty billion dollars
Speaker 1: and unmarked bills to Iranian mullahs, whether it was Obama
Speaker 1: giving over two million dollars to Hezbollah and Hamas in
Speaker 1: the last three days of his presidency, whether it's Joe
Speaker 1: Biden and his son benefiting from Borisma holdings. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what it is. None of that matters to them.
Speaker 1: And so now they're trying to hold Matt Loward at
Speaker 1: the same standards because they're like, oh no, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we bash these guys, so now we gotta stick with it. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we just bash everybody. Everybody's guilty until proven innocent.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. It's outrageous, and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but instinctively I just can't be that person that rush
Speaker 1: us to judgment night, but beyond even Russian to judgment,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, no, hold on one second. As a woman.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, I hang on one second. You know,
Speaker 1: like a somebody. You know, if some he raped me,
Speaker 1: I would not continue to see them. I would not
Speaker 1: marry them. Now, I'm not saying that that happens. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it didn't happen. Not to say it didn't happen,
Speaker 1: but man, it just seems really odd to me that
Speaker 1: you're you're raped, it's traumatic, and then you willfully continue dating.
Speaker 1: And she's talking about an act of violence. And I'm
Speaker 1: not going to go into the details. That is like, right,
Speaker 1: So the thing that blows you away, Like, the thing
Speaker 1: that's strange is that she says that she consented to
Speaker 1: continue to date him, not that she was pushed into
Speaker 1: dating him. Like if it was like, hey, I did
Speaker 1: this to you and you're going to deal with it,
Speaker 1: or you're not going anywhere at NBC and I'm going
Speaker 1: to make sure you never have a career in this business.
Speaker 1: Somebody is I don't. I honestly believe that there are
Speaker 1: psychological forces that I am not equipped to understand. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that up front. You know, it's sort of like
Speaker 1: the Stockholm syndrome is a real thing. It really happens
Speaker 1: where you sympathize with your captor. That was a big
Speaker 1: issue with the Patty Hurst case, for example. I don't know,
Speaker 1: and almost you have to my view, separate what might
Speaker 1: have happened after this from what actually she's saying that
Speaker 1: he did, because I don't know. I don't understand in
Speaker 1: any way, shape, manner, or form the psychology of any
Speaker 1: of it. I don't tell you a really sad story
Speaker 1: because I would on the face of it, I would
Speaker 1: agree doesn't That doesn't make sense to me, But it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it didn't happen either. So get this. I
Speaker 1: got a friend, right, my son, Wicked Smont going to
Speaker 1: college YadA, YadA, YadA, carries around these little pieces of
Speaker 1: paper prince Himount and says, I consent to go out
Speaker 1: with we'll call him Joe. Joe has space for the
Speaker 1: date this was illegally. I was not I was not drugged,
Speaker 1: I was not forced. I consent to the date, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, willfully went up on this. And then he
Speaker 1: has another one in case they decided to sleep together,
Speaker 1: or in case they decided to do anything else. He
Speaker 1: has everything in writing because so many of his friends
Speaker 1: on campus are being accused of things that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: How sad is this? I mean, you know, it's really
Speaker 1: sad that there are people that do these evil, horrific,
Speaker 1: violent things. And I think it's hard. And I used
Speaker 1: to say this in my speech when I wrote the
Speaker 1: book Deliverers from Evil. That's two thousand and four, that's
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago I wrote that book, and I would say,
Speaker 1: I think good people have a very hard time wrapping
Speaker 1: their minds around violence and evil. You know, we just
Speaker 1: report every weekend or after a weekend, how many people
Speaker 1: were shot in Chicago. We don't even think about it anymore.
Speaker 1: But I mean, think of if you're the mother of
Speaker 1: the father and it's your kid that got shot. You
Speaker 1: have little kids getting shot. I remember the day that
Speaker 1: I scrolled the names of all the people shot in Chicago,
Speaker 1: all the people killed in Chicago on TV. Names you
Speaker 1: never hear of. There's so many things that we don't
Speaker 1: hear about because they just don't fit the date. We
Speaker 1: have murder people have to death in France, right but
Speaker 1: we don't talk about it because they're not looking at
Speaker 1: band knives, they're looking at band guns. We have a
Speaker 1: synagogue attacked in Germany. We're not talking about it because
Speaker 1: that doesn't fit a narrative. We got people being shot
Speaker 1: in Kansas, but we have twenty to thirty to forty
Speaker 1: to fifty people being shot in Chicago every weekend. So
Speaker 1: four people sign Kansas. I'm like, guys, none of this
Speaker 1: makes sense the way that we're reacting anymore. Think about
Speaker 1: how we we We just accept that this exists. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't even go on a subway in New York.
Speaker 1: What do I always say to everybody that works for you,
Speaker 1: don't take the subway. Don't take this. I say, I'll
Speaker 1: pay for the car. You know what I do, take
Speaker 1: the subway. I'll take the subway. You don't listen to me.
Speaker 1: That's all right. They're afraid of me. It's okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but you're a psycho. I mean I'm not. But you know,
Speaker 1: in all, I got no fight just the other day
Speaker 1: on this lubway. Of course, shocking, right. You know why
Speaker 1: because I said to the guy who said he had
Speaker 1: his phone out and he's blasts in his music, stable music.
Speaker 1: You might like it. I don't people, let me finish,
Speaker 1: let me finish. I have buddy, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: You gotta have phones? And he goes, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: have phones. I'm like, well are they because I'm not
Speaker 1: in your ears? He goes, you want me to put
Speaker 1: him in my ears? I said, the first place I
Speaker 1: put him in. Why do you do this? You know
Speaker 1: what he says to me. He goes, I'll put him in.
Speaker 1: I'll put him in my ears if you ask me nicely.
Speaker 1: I said, this is me asking you nicely. The next
Speaker 1: time I ask you is when I ask God. Everyone
Speaker 1: in the car just started cheering, so he put him
Speaker 1: in his ears. I don't even know how to react
Speaker 1: to this. You can't react to it because you take
Speaker 1: a car. I tell everybody to take a car. Everybody
Speaker 1: on my TV staff in particular, I've I've been. I
Speaker 1: make sure that they get a per diem so they
Speaker 1: can get a car. I mean, it's it's this world
Speaker 1: is just full with darkness. I mean, I'm watching the
Speaker 1: insanity and politically in this country a It's just man,
Speaker 1: it gets some days, it just gets to you. I'm
Speaker 1: reading this, this headline, I'm looking at the China and
Speaker 1: you know, really we're going to bow down in silence
Speaker 1: NBA players on the China issue. I know that lit
Speaker 1: up Ethan earlier in this week, and I'm thinking, really,
Speaker 1: you can. You can trash the president, but you can't
Speaker 1: trash China. Look what Ethan found earlier with this woman.
Speaker 1: She's at a press conference. She's at to ask questions
Speaker 1: question about it. They're trying to rip the microphone physically
Speaker 1: out of her hand. She's like, excuse me, I have
Speaker 1: every right to ask this question. Good thing it wasn't you,
Speaker 1: because we would forget about it. I would use that
Speaker 1: Chinese prison. You would have had to try to rescue her.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, So the president, the big rally
Speaker 1: he has, we're on the ground tonight in Minneapolis. I
Speaker 1: can't believe all that has surrounded this rally. I can't
Speaker 1: believe the mayor. Oh, if you're a copy, can't wear
Speaker 1: your uniform. Let's move to porta potties. All right. This
Speaker 1: is a level of derangement that even I have a
Speaker 1: hard time wrapping my arms around here. All right, we
Speaker 1: will cover the Ali. Lawrence Jones is on the ground.
Speaker 1: We'll probably speak to some of the people that went
Speaker 1: to the rally, depending what time the rally ends. We'll
Speaker 1: cover it when we get on Hannity tonight. Former AG
Speaker 1: Matt Whittaker has been phenomenal. Tom Fitten, Dan Bongino, Governor
Speaker 1: Palin Is on tonight, Joe Conju much much more, Nine
Speaker 1: Eastern Hannity, Fox News. So we'll see you tonight and
Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll get right back to what is now the well. Russia, Russia, Russia, No, no, no, impeach, impeach, impeach,
Speaker 1: No no no. Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine KU, because that's what
Speaker 1: this now has become. So I'll coming up tonight nine
Speaker 1: Eastern Hannity. We'll see them, We'll see you back here
Speaker 1: tomorrow