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<v Speaker 1>All right, buckle up. We got a lot to get

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<v Speaker 1>to today. Glad you are on board. Glad you're with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Right down our toll free telephone number. It's eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and nine four one sean if you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the program. So I took down all

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<v Speaker 1>my social media. I have no access to Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>and all I do is when I want to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>I send it. Ze Linda or somebody on my TV

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<v Speaker 1>show tweet this out. So let's just be super clear. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you still have a Twitter account, you still have a

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook account, you still have an Instagram account. You just

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<v Speaker 1>do longer post to it. Do that for you. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I have any passwords to any of those accounts? No,

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<v Speaker 1>we took those away from you. He took them away

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<v Speaker 1>from me. All right, everyone took away And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>buy my request is taken too much of my time.

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<v Speaker 1>I stay up late at night getting in fights with

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Kimmel and wasted my time with him. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>saying all of that, I have friends. They've been texting

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<v Speaker 1>and sending messages all day about what's going on in Minneapolis.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the size of the crowd outside this

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<v Speaker 1>arena the only seats I think nineteen thousand, three hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Linda found out yesterday and the mayor is apparently, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to shut this down. They tried to almost

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<v Speaker 1>shake down the Trump campaign is like, oh, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>pay five hundred thousand dollars now, Rows, We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to let you have your rally. Okay. They never did

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<v Speaker 1>that with Obama or any other Democrat. Why would they

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<v Speaker 1>do that to Donald Trump? Because that's I guess who

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<v Speaker 1>they are. And then they are trying to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>press away from the people in the lines because the

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<v Speaker 1>press might interview people that would say good things about

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. The fact that people have been waiting there

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<v Speaker 1>some overnight apparently or tried to and moist stop. But

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<v Speaker 1>the line began in earnest at you know, six seven

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<v Speaker 1>am this morning and people, I mean, the line is massive.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's what's hilarious is that there was one report

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea of, not confirmed this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the hashtag magas soda. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty funny on Twitter. People on Twitter are clever, smart,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gound be mean and vicious and horrible too, But

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<v Speaker 1>it is funny. Some of the stuff that even the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that they write about me that's horrible. It is

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<v Speaker 1>funny if you have a sense of humor. Anyway, long

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<v Speaker 1>story short here is the lines are massive. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at pictures now and that's like as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the eye can see. I mean, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a rock concert. We're gonna check in Lawrence Jones, we

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<v Speaker 1>sent there. We have other people that are friends of

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<v Speaker 1>the show that are gonna be calling in throughout the program.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll check in with them too. And all I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you is, oh, and there was one report. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea if it's true that the mayor wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to take away the porta potties to make people uncomfortable, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? You take away the porta potties, They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be what urinating in the streets like in Nancy Pelosi's district.

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<v Speaker 1>Defecating in the streets. Unbelievable. We've got that. I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to dig down deep into everything that is now

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<v Speaker 1>going on with the Democrats. Will get to that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Two other stories though, that we're going to hit in

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the program later on with Jonathan and

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle is One is you know, the NBA literally just

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<v Speaker 1>bowing before the altar of China. And you know here's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, NBA players have no problem tweeting out comments

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<v Speaker 1>that are negative to Donald Trump, and the NBA commissioner

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<v Speaker 1>has no problem doing that either. And now you've got

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<v Speaker 1>money involved, real money apparently, like one point eight billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for the NBA. And Jason Whitlock was amazing from

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports one on Hannity last night and he laid out, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this. It's bigger than the NBA. It also

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with Nike. I mean, he gave this

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<v Speaker 1>whole theory of his which I found fascinating, none of

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<v Speaker 1>which I would have been able to come up with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But now there, you know, he's encouraging the NBA commissioner coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's fine to rail against Trump. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine to promote radical groups, which has happened by

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<v Speaker 1>some players. And he instituted a gender quota for referees

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<v Speaker 1>and declared progressive code words diversity and inclusion in core principles,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it goes on and on. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was a great piece by Miranda Divine at the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Post today and Silver is proud in using the

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<v Speaker 1>position to push you know, social justice, anti Trump politics.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're gonna stand up to, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>stand for something like the Houston Rockets basketball boss by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Daryl Morey exercising his free speech rights

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<v Speaker 1>and he tweeted support or the people of Hong Kong

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<v Speaker 1>and their pro democracy protests, fight for freedom, stand with

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<v Speaker 1>Hong Kong. Okay, you wouldn't think that's a big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently in the face of China belligerently their reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to this, and the m BA just capitulating to all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. You know, I'm to the point where Maury's

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<v Speaker 1>regretable sentiments that had deeply offended many of our friends

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<v Speaker 1>and fans in China. What Okay, if the Houston Rockets,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, boss wants to tweet support for freedom, liberty

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<v Speaker 1>and the independence movement in Hong Kong, good for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently you can in the NBA. So we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that in the course of the program. Today, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading this story about Matt Lower. I am I am shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's amazing the front page New York Post. Now

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<v Speaker 1>there's two tabloids in New York. One of the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Posts. The other is the New York Daily News.

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<v Speaker 1>The Post more conservative, by the way, the same company

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<v Speaker 1>that owns Fox News. And then the New York Daily

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<v Speaker 1>News is very liberal. Not fans of Sean Hannity. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. It's just like the Washington Post tates me.

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<v Speaker 1>If he didn't think the New York Times hates me,

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<v Speaker 1>just look at the picture they put on the cover

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<v Speaker 1>of the New York Times Sunday magazine of me. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen anyone look that bad in my entire life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, reading newspapers. That was pretty funny though. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the headline today shock claim and new book, big letters,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Lower raped me, and it goes on NBC anchor

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<v Speaker 1>he responded to this all lies, We had a consensual affair.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you get to the body of the article,

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<v Speaker 1>which is inside the paper, you know you got two

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, basically a full page on this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing about this Roman Pharaoh book. He's the one

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<v Speaker 1>that brought down Weinstein. Anyway, you know, she is claiming

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<v Speaker 1>that he violently raped her in Sochi and at the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics in Russia in twenty fourteen, and Matt Lowers, defending himself, saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the story Brook tells is filled with false details intended

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<v Speaker 1>to create the impression this was an abusive encounter. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no evidence that law enforcement was ever contacted regarding this

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<v Speaker 1>case that I have read anywhere. Yet, you know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>saying it wasn't consensual, that it was non consensual, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's describing a very violent incident here. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying that they went on beyond that to have

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<v Speaker 1>an extramarital affair. But it started in his hotel room

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<v Speaker 1>one late night in Sochi, and she's saying that she

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<v Speaker 1>and Lara went on to have more sexual encounters. So

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<v Speaker 1>they both admit that they had this relationship thereafter. And

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<v Speaker 1>I it's like everything else, I don't know how, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to believe. I cannot tell you anything

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<v Speaker 1>but the things that they both agree on, which is

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<v Speaker 1>they've had an affair after the incident. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened in that room that night in Sochi,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't I don't know how you ascertain the

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<v Speaker 1>truth of it. Now. Apparently she had told people at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so that would benefit and support her side

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<v Speaker 1>of this. He's denying it, and I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you ever get to the truth. I do know this

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<v Speaker 1>that I think we've all learned a lot, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>told this lesson many times on the program that I

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<v Speaker 1>learned in Atlanta with the Richard Jewel case. This is

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<v Speaker 1>in remember the Summer Olympics nineteen ninety six. I'm local

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<v Speaker 1>on air in Atlanta, Georgia and at the home of

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<v Speaker 1>the official Olympics news radio station. All right, That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I was. Anyway, the story breaks and by every account,

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<v Speaker 1>you got this security guard, Richard Jewel, is the hero,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, the AJC, the Atlanta Journal

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution comes out with now he fits the profile of

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<v Speaker 1>the lone bomber. After all, he lives with his mother.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm on the air reading this and I'm like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>what he lives with his mother doesn't make him a terrorist,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean he bombed anybody. Now, long story short, The

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<v Speaker 1>rest to the media just turns on this guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>they rushed to judgment, as they usually do. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>I first got to meet Lynn Wood, who I think

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the finest, probably him and Charles Hart

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<v Speaker 1>of Finest Libel Slander attorneys in the country and Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>Wood ends up getting a fortune for Richard Jewel. He

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<v Speaker 1>said on this program he thinks Richard Jewel, who died

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<v Speaker 1>at forty four, died because of all the stress associated

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<v Speaker 1>with this. But the bottom line, as it turned out,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy was a hero. The guy didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy saved lives that day, but they rushed to judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw this most recently with Nicholas Sandman. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the black Hebrew Israelites are verbally assaulting this group

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<v Speaker 1>of kids. He's got a maga hat on. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>have a Native American by the name of Nathan Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>who's banging on a drum. There's some protests they were

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<v Speaker 1>involved in, and then the media runs with, oh, look

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<v Speaker 1>at him, he was intimidating the Native America, and oh

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<v Speaker 1>they said racist things. When we when you had the

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<v Speaker 1>whole tape, which we had much more that the media

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<v Speaker 1>could have gone on, they ran with, this kid's a racist,

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<v Speaker 1>This kid, you know, was in tip trying to intimidate

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Phillips. They ran with, you know, all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>things when just the opposite was true. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>first interviewed Richard Jewell. He told me that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to you when you were the only

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<v Speaker 1>one ever ever that questioned this narrative because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know the answer. Just like with thelur story, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what to make of that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. I'm you know, everyone wants to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>they got the answer. I don't have it. But that

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<v Speaker 1>lesson when he told me that, it kind of shook me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it taught me a valuable lesson. Now there's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason that we've been right on Duke Lacrosse. Remember the

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<v Speaker 1>ninety professors, you know, taken out a full page ad

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<v Speaker 1>in the paper convicting those kids. I actually didn't rush

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<v Speaker 1>to judgment there either. I took the time to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and meet the kids and the parents, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the kids and families, and I got this side of

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Remember when Ferguson Missouri happened. I had people,

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<v Speaker 1>my sources that were telling me that knew in law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>that knew the truths. And there are eyewitnesses that confirm

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<v Speaker 1>everything Barren Wilson has said, and that will come out

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the media. They created the expectation what

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<v Speaker 1>the result was going to be same thing in Ferguson,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, the same thing in Baltimore, the Freddie Great case.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an expectation those six cops were going to

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<v Speaker 1>jail early on. I knew the real story because I

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<v Speaker 1>did my own work. I didn't rush to judgment when

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<v Speaker 1>they rushed the judgment with Nicholas Salmon. I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>it's so glaring because the kid handled everything perfectly. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you can add Cambridge police to the issue. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>could add Treyvon and Zimmerman to the issue. They thought

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<v Speaker 1>they had that right. Then you can add they never

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<v Speaker 1>vetted Obama. Then you can add that they never thought

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<v Speaker 1>Trump could win. Then you could add the Russia witch hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>They were so sure that they were going to get

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<v Speaker 1>Trump on that. Now it's downs the Ukraine coup attempt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing now. Or Justice Kavanaugh. Another example,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when Michael Avanati was accused, I guess by

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend. There were three separate investigations going on, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember saying on this programming on TV, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what happened here, but I'm gonna give Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Avanati that which he never gave Justice Kavanaugh, the presumption

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<v Speaker 1>of innocence and the right to do process. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not backing off that because it's worked out well for

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<v Speaker 1>us and we end up always being right. Had the

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<v Speaker 1>media get Russia Russia Russia wrong? Wrong, wrong? Because the

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<v Speaker 1>media it's so toxic. I mean, they just they don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about truth facts, which is lead me into the

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<v Speaker 1>commentary I want to get into on the latest about Ukraine, Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine unbelievable. So we got all that coming up today.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, eight hundred nine for one. Sean told free

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<v Speaker 1>telephone number. Right, Jeff is in Minnesota, says, so you

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<v Speaker 1>live near where this rally is? Is that true? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I live in Invergrol Heights, which is a sub

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<v Speaker 1>I was down there and there is a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>people than what I think you have reported for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you go out to a two block radius

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<v Speaker 1>and there's got to be six to eight thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>milling around. Okay, so you go out there. What time

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<v Speaker 1>did the crowd start getting big? Because I'm seeing these

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<v Speaker 1>social media pictures they are huge, and I'm also let's

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<v Speaker 1>say it probably started early in the morning. Yeah, before

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, so the mayor tried they first tried

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<v Speaker 1>to shake down the Trump campaign for money, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want police officers wearing uniforms. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they heard they took away porta potties. What

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<v Speaker 1>can you say to that? Well, as I know is

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<v Speaker 1>they put like there was only two porta potties for

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of people, and they put it in an area

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<v Speaker 1>that they knew that was going to be shut down

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain time because of the security reason. So

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<v Speaker 1>I feel, in my opinion and others that are around here,

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<v Speaker 1>they did that on purpose. Yeah. Listen, nothing that mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of yours would do would surprise me. What's so amazing

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<v Speaker 1>is just how stunningly, you know, overtly they do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they literally tried everything they could do to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure this rally does not happen tonight. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they do. Well, if it was a Democrat, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be way different. Yeah. Yeah, and Obama's And that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do is look, the last time when

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<v Speaker 1>Obama was here, they charged him a fraction of what

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<v Speaker 1>they were doing for here. I think it was reported

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<v Speaker 1>that it was only twenty thousand dollars. And they've bent

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<v Speaker 1>over backwards and now they're saying that you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want uniform cops or and it was near there

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<v Speaker 1>as far as if they're inside the rally, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was uniform police department all over inside for that. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you a question. When you're looking at the people,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they doing? Are they nice? They like talking

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<v Speaker 1>to each other, They're they're fighting. That's your name is

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<v Speaker 1>not Jeff, real quick, Jef? Well, Linda, you're right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, they're just basically just knowing around. There's different

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<v Speaker 1>signage all over the place. They're tailgating, They're having fun.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they're doing. We're up on a break, is

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<v Speaker 1>why I had to interrupt. We'll continue all right, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five to the top of the hour, eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>nine for one. Sean told fore telephone number you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of the program. Now, we sent

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<v Speaker 1>our own Lawrence Jones, who is the Hannity Fox News

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<v Speaker 1>Hannity Special on the Road twenty twenty election correspondent, an

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<v Speaker 1>investigative reporter, and Linda his friend with Tricia Hope. She's

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<v Speaker 1>the author of Just the Tweets. She might remember she

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<v Speaker 1>came up with just printing Donald Trump's tweets and like

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes an instant bestseller, which was a great idea.

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<v Speaker 1>She is also in Minnesota at the rally. Welcome both

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<v Speaker 1>of you, Tricia, welcome back Lawrence. We love Avenue. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have be on TV tonight. It was I am

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<v Speaker 1>proud to announce that Lawrence has gotten a great new

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<v Speaker 1>long term deal with the Fox News Channel. Congratulations, well

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<v Speaker 1>deserve sir, Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. At a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of energy down here in Minnesota. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people that when you hear about all the

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<v Speaker 1>impeachment stuff, and then you go out here and you

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<v Speaker 1>actually talk with real people that on a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media. That's what I do for you. Sho

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<v Speaker 1>go on the road every day and I talk to

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<v Speaker 1>real people that have real problems. They're not concerned about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what they want to know about something they

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<v Speaker 1>won't know about Ukraine? What is going on with a

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Biden? Why hasn't the mainstream media done any type

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<v Speaker 1>of investigation into that shady business? Well, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know what he did for it. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone says, well, it's Joe Biden's kid, he's forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>years old, But the kid's not in college the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so where's his background and experience? Let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this, how big was that line? Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing pictures on social media that show it's massive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big lion, Sean. And you know the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Minnesota is that they have indoor walkways as well

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<v Speaker 1>as outside. Is they've taken up all the indoor walkways

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<v Speaker 1>and get outside. It's wrapped around as well. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there love Fox knew the

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<v Speaker 1>love Sean Hannity and loved their president. Uh. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's raining on and offside here and these people

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<v Speaker 1>are just standing there getting drenched. Its Minnesota is out too,

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<v Speaker 1>so that I got to deal with both things. You

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<v Speaker 1>know the way from the wheelchairs too. Wow, one year

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<v Speaker 1>from now, Lawrence is going to come on this program

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<v Speaker 1>and hate my guts because you know, I'm like Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta go here, Lawrence, go here, Lawrence, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>we need you on the road. You're you're, you're, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hate my guts by the end of this process,

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence go in the middle of that liberal protest. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I put one hundred and eighty five thousand miles since

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<v Speaker 1>the December on the plane. So you know, you've given

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<v Speaker 1>me a lot of experience to talk with the American

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<v Speaker 1>people and talk about what they are thinking. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of the people in the media,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do that. They try to project how they feel.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't feel the same way as the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the studios in New York. It's amazing. Did you get

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<v Speaker 1>I was told by I saw on social media not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to confirm maybe you know the answer to it.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a caller from Minnesota that lives nearby and

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<v Speaker 1>was down by the rally that apparently the mayor now

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor, you know, the city wanted at the last

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<v Speaker 1>minute for the Trump campaign the pony up five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>grand and which they never did for any other presidential candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they said about a week ago that police officers

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<v Speaker 1>can't wear their uniforms to the rally. Then I just heard.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's true. And that's why I'm asking,

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<v Speaker 1>did they really remove the porter potties? Now so close

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<v Speaker 1>up to the building, the poorer potties are there? The

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<v Speaker 1>really the place of the porter potties, They're no longer

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<v Speaker 1>there where they were before, but closer by the building.

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<v Speaker 1>They are there. It is true about the law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>not being there. And by the way, the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the rally, every time you see the cops go by,

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<v Speaker 1>they are just cheering so loud. But the all duty

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<v Speaker 1>cops that typically go to these events were able normally

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<v Speaker 1>able to wear the uniforms. The police chief and mayor

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<v Speaker 1>have barred them from wearing their uniform only there on

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<v Speaker 1>duty cops. So all duty cops end up making their

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<v Speaker 1>own T shirt. And you see them, the cops for

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and their teachers. A great guys. I think some

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<v Speaker 1>of them are even on my security detail today helping

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<v Speaker 1>us out here. Let's go to Tricia's Lawrence. Stay right there, Tricia,

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<v Speaker 1>where are you at this moment? Right now? I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>inside the venue, but all day long, I've been up

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<v Speaker 1>and down the walkways and outside, and I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you they did remove the porta potties of many of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they placed them on the opposite end of where

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<v Speaker 1>the line began. So you literally have to walk about

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<v Speaker 1>two miles to get to the first porta potty that

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<v Speaker 1>you see, and there are a very few porta potties

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with to support this crowd. And then the mayor.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm told by the people in line that turned up

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<v Speaker 1>the heat in the skywalk. It's miserably hot in there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to make it as uncomfortable as a miserable

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<v Speaker 1>as he possibly can. Now, how many are you with,

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<v Speaker 1>like a large group of people indoors and the indoor

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<v Speaker 1>hallways leading into the arena. Yes, I've been in and

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the arena, walking up and down the line

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<v Speaker 1>all day long. It's actually since. Yeah, why don't you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what I want you to do. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you walk near a big crowd and we'll put

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<v Speaker 1>you on hold and tell them that. Sean Hannity's on

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<v Speaker 1>the line on his radio show, wants to say hi

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody? And how long will it take you to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the like where a crowd is Give me

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<v Speaker 1>about two minutes. I just got it. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do that. I got it. I got it,

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Jones. So where are you specifically located right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me guess you're in the hotel room comfortably, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ordering up a cheeseburger for lunch. I'm not comfortable. I

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<v Speaker 1>just got back to the hotels. I can take just

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<v Speaker 1>call them because you know, these Trump supporters many they

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<v Speaker 1>let you know how they're feeling about the issue. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's right. I don't know what they did to the

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<v Speaker 1>air condition or whatever daya they did, but it's extremely

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<v Speaker 1>hot in the facility of where all these people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been to a lot of these Trump

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<v Speaker 1>rallies for you shot. Typically all the people are waiting

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<v Speaker 1>outside and you see them lap around the building. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because of how Minnesota is, they have the skywalks where

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<v Speaker 1>people can line up in there, so all of that

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<v Speaker 1>is stilled up, and then you have the people looped

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<v Speaker 1>up outside that are in line waiting to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the skywalks to get into the facilitage. And it's hot inside.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was drifted in sweat inside, and then

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<v Speaker 1>outside is cold and the rain is going on and off,

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<v Speaker 1>on and off. So disimagine that. Let me go back

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<v Speaker 1>to Tricia. Stay there, Lawrence Jones. Tricia apparently is back

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<v Speaker 1>in the line. Tricia, you back in the line. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually inside the arena on the floor with a group

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<v Speaker 1>of people who are I mean, the floor is filling

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<v Speaker 1>up quickly and I'm looking big worth the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are has been standing all day, some of them since yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be standing all night. All right. Let me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you feel like doing this. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you make an announcement that Sean Hannity wants to say

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<v Speaker 1>hi to everybody, and then we put your phone on speaker.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we do that? Yes? That possible? All right? That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds great? Um anyway, Trisha is right there. Hello, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let me know when I'm on speaker. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>me when I'm on speaker. On speaker, Sean, you're on speaker,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? So can everybody hear me? That's there? You

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<v Speaker 1>can you all hear me? They can't really hear you, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>Just tell them all I said, they're great Americans and

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<v Speaker 1>I want them to have a great time tonight, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's turn Minnesota Red. Tell them all that, well, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>le me, I gotta tell him. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction to what I said, and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell him good, he said, to tell he loves doing

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<v Speaker 1>a great job and retire Minnesota Red. Y oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what did you want to add? Tricia? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that the live is full of women, and they

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<v Speaker 1>promised me they're gonna turn this staintment, and they also said, Linda,

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<v Speaker 1>they love you. Thank you Minnesota. You know it's so funny, Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>You you know this game, you know, every everybody ends

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<v Speaker 1>up loving Linda and thinking that I'm the devil. It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, that's not true. They just like me

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<v Speaker 1>more than you. That's all. Okay, Well, Lawrence, you know

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 1>what it's funny. Now, Lawrence, I want you to describe.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, private detail. Lawrence and I had a private

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<v Speaker 1>dinner recently. And so I started at Fox when the

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<v Speaker 1>first one on the air October sixth, nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>After when I came up from Atlanta and Lawrence was

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<v Speaker 1>four years old. I've now become my twenty fourth UNI

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth anniversary. Why can't I tell people that? What

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<v Speaker 1>do I always say to you? What do I There

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<v Speaker 1>are two things I always say to you. Correct, that's correct. One,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, You're gonna be a huge star. You've got,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, more natural talent than anybody I've ever met

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<v Speaker 1>in TV. You're You're just and everybody loves you. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing that I always say to you? They

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<v Speaker 1>always like, be humble, Be humble, dad of trouble, and

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I say, listen to your mom and dad. Your mom's

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<v Speaker 1>a preacher, the preacher, my dad the start driver. Yes, yes, yes, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta tell you have been so amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you this because I've you've gone on

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<v Speaker 1>the road for us in liberal environments and conservative environments.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to ascertain what's the difference for you

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>when you go into two different environments. You know, the love,

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the love, I mean, these are people that don't care

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>about the skin color. They just really love America and

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 1>they want to be You know, it's funny because I

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>was around doing the Tea Party. That's when I first

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 1>got into the conservative libertarian movement. And the Trump people

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>are just like the tea Party media is that I

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>used to join, And that's doing a period of time

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<v Speaker 1>where I thought all the Republican when I used to

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 1>be a living for racist and these people want to

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>hug you, They want to hey, can we go get

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>a drink? Just loving people. Uh. And I just wish

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media with cover the love instead of trying

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>to pick the one person, the one idiot out of

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>a crowd and say this is a hateful person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you've been another environment for horrible things have

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<v Speaker 1>been said to you. There's the reason why I have

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<v Speaker 1>to travel with a security detail, now, Sean, is that

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 1>because these people are vicious people. Uh, you know, I

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:34.919
<v Speaker 1>grew up in a tough environment, so I know I

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>can take them. But if guys, I know I can

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<v Speaker 1>take them, Okay, go ahead, keep going from there. Yeah,

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I can take them. I could take them, but they're

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.479
<v Speaker 1>there trying to destroy people. Because you see themselves if

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>they try to antagonize you and they want you to

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>hit them so they can have something, and that'll be

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the story. So I got to travel with a security

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>detail because my dad, my second dad that's on, you know,

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>to have his own radio show that I'm on, making

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>me travel with a detail. Now, well, listen, I we

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>love you. You've been doing an amazing job. I'm honored.

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>We've developed a great friendship. I want you to be safe,

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>always have fun. Tonight we'll put you on the President's

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>speaking I guess sometime after eight, probably bleeding into my hour.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Then we'll go to you tonight. Look forward to having

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you on and tell our friends there when you see

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody that John Hannity sends their love and a message.

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>The messages turn Minnesota red. Okay, sir, We'll see you

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to night, exclusively unhanded at night on the Box News

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>show All Right, Lawrence Jones, Fox News Special twenty twenty

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>On the Road Election correspondent, investigative reporter and Tricia. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank you too. You're amazing and tell everybody

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>there I said, my love, well, thank you so much.

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you. How did you get so close

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to Tricia? You're so funny you get I met you

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<v Speaker 1>at a Missouri actually I remember you gave me. That

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>was at Cape Girardo. You gave me the book Maye.

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>She came up to me from behind, and there was

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people there. They heard me talking and

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the camera guys who was local there, Union guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, oh my god, dear Linda, and I

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>said yeah, and he goes, I recognize your accent. He goes,

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm a been listening to the show. I say, oh,

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. He goes, you gotta meet this

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>lady over here. She's got a book. I said, oh,

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't. He goes, No, really, she's got a book

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's filled with all of Trump's tweets. I'm like,

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of incredible. So I went over. Trisha was

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 1>there at a husband. They're super sweet, super nice, you know,

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and we just got to talking and we stay in

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>touch because you know, she's you stay in touch with everybody.

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Linda talks to everybody, you know. I'm just looking at

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>this and it does warm my heart. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>see what is going on in this country. This is

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>just the latest attempted coup attempt. You know. I'm reading

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>an article that just came out and I'm like, how

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>does this happen to our country? The headline on foxnews

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<v Speaker 1>dot com newly declassified court documents reveal FBI FISA violations

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>targeting Americans, and then Devin Newness and John Solomon on

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>TV last night apparently they were surveiling John Solomon were

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>reporting on Ukraine. Now, what you're saying is very alarming

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to me. I have three people now that have told

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>me that they believe there is evidence that shows government

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>resources we use to monitor communications. In one case, a

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>journalist that is a regular on this program with the

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>name John Solomon. Have you heard that, Congressman. Well, what

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I've heard, and I want to be clear, there's I

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>think there's a there's a difference. What I've heard is

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that there were strange requests, irregular requests to monitor not

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>just one journalist, but multiple journalists. Now, perhaps that was okay,

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps there was some reason for that that it can

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>be explained away. But that's what we that's what we know,

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's what we're going to be looking into. Great,

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>this is the country we live in. Let's let's let's

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>impeach the president elected by the people, and let's weaponize

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the powerful tools of intelligence to do it. And let's

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>use a Russian dacier as a means of spying on

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the president. Then we'll use foreign intelligence allies of ours

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to do the spying that would be illegal to do here,

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and we'll outsource it to circumvent laws. And when Russia Russia,

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Russia doesn't work, we'll just go to Ukraine when there's

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<v Speaker 1>no issue. I'll be honest, I you know there are

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<v Speaker 1>days that I in my heart, I don't know if

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>we can even save this country from this madness. It's

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>gotten so corrupt, the media is so corrupt, the deep

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>state is so corrupt. You know, in all the years

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this, and there's a lot thirty one.

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I never believed it could be this bad in this country.

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I always thought checks and balance it. I don't know anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is. According to what we're getting on the screen,

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of what you might call now

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>a breaking tweet from the President who says that tomorrow

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>they will release a transcript of the Zelensky call. So

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<v Speaker 1>my question to you is, if you see that transcript

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<v Speaker 1>and it is more benign than we've been led to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>will you do you think that your caucus might stand

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<v Speaker 1>down a little bit or do you think that the

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>caucus is at a boil right now? I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to find out now. It's not about that. This

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>is about the Constitution of the United States. And we

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<v Speaker 1>have many other shall we say, candidates for impeachable offense

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the constitution moves in, but this one

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>is the most understandable by the public, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>important to know this. It is there is no requirement

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<v Speaker 1>there be a quid pro quote in the conversation. If

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<v Speaker 1>the president brings up who wants them to investigate something

0:31:53.880 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that's of his political opponent, that is self evident that

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>it is not right. We don't ask foreign governments to

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<v Speaker 1>help us in LESSI that's what we'll try to stop this.

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<v Speaker 1>Russia's wrong. Yeah, but the problem is, oh yeah Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>did it, and oh yeah Obama did it, and well

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>there was no quit pro quo and it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what the interpretation of any Oh, let's see whistleblower that's

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>not a whistleblower has to say on it. And then

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>she goes on to say at one point, remember Nancy

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Pelosi announcing this before we ever saw it, or did

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<v Speaker 1>she because Adam Schiff apparently was working with the non

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>whistleblower whistleblower Anyway, our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>and nine for one, Sean told free telephone number speaker

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Pelosi that the Democrats this is just what they wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I played the montage that from yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. It starts two days after he's elected two

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>and it never ends joining us. Now, former Speaker of

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the House New Gingrich is with us. And by the way,

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>he has given me an early copy about Nancy Pelosi

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<v Speaker 1>saying she's playing checkers and Trump's playing chess. How are

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>you well? I said, but that's not even true. Nancy

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Pelosi's playing solitaire. And the reason I say that, I

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>want to him to say, I don't think you count

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>play tick tack total. And the reason is pretty simple

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that you have all this effort right now to keep

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>the leaker which is the right term for the whistle blower,

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>to keep the leaks INNT wants to blow anything. He

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>had no evidence firsthand of anything. So he's just a

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Lincoln's plowing all of the way in which the deep

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>state tries to destroy Trump. So the Democrats are going

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to all this effort to keep this guy secret. Well,

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>if they were to pass the impeachment of the sign

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>in the House, it goes to the Senate, and Lindsey

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Graham as the challenge duiary communities already say it. He's

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>going to bring this guy in in public under oath,

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>reminding that the perjury means you can go to jail.

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like they're not thinking about Act two.

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think the Democrats in that sense of just

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>in such a frenzy that they have lost their minds

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>about how this is going to work, and they've forgotten,

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, that it's not a one step game, and

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that the following steps are all bad for them. You know,

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching all of it, and even Ben Sasas is

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>always critical of the president, said it's a you know,

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a partisan clown show. What's interesting to me watching this

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>as an outsider, is well, you've been through this. You

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>were speaker when there was Independent Council. That statute then

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>changed to the Special Council. But there were eleven specific

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>indictments that were put forward by Ken Starr in his

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.439
<v Speaker 1>final report. It's not like that this got hold out

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. And when you set up the conditions in

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>your particular case for the Democrats, the minority at the time,

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>to deal with issues, well, you were fair. There was

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 1>a full vote of the House. Correct me if I'm wrong.

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>You also allowed all sorts of let's see every single

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>He gave every single opportunity for them to present their

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>case as well, did you not, Well, okay, we followed

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>the same principles that had been established by Peter Rodino,

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a Democrat, in nineteen seventy three during Watergate, and we

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>did it very deliberately. Henry Hyde was Chamber of Judiciary.

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>He worked so well with John Conyers at that time

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that in their opening hearing, Conyers said this is the

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>most bipartisan process he had ever been through in his career.

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Dick Gephart, the Democratic Leader, joined me in a press

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>con for to say that we had mutually agreed to

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 1>publish Star's entire report so the American people could see

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>what Star was saying. I mean, there was a real effort,

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:14.479
<v Speaker 1>based on how they had handled Watergate, to make sure

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 1>that the country could see that this was more than

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>partisan politics. And in some of the early votes we

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.879
<v Speaker 1>got two out of every three Democrats voting with us.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's very different from the way Pelosi

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>is trying to handle it, and I think most of

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>what she's doing, frankly, will end up backfiring on her

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>because the average American is going to see clearly that

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>it's not fair, it's not being done in an appropriate way,

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and as a result, I think that the country the

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>longer this goes on, the more the country will realize

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 1>that it's phony, which is exactly what happened last year

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>with Kavanaugh, where initially people said, well, well that's true,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Well going to turn out it was. And Trill and

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I think all these polling members have the same kind

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>of effect if it was all true, if the New

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>York Times in the Worship Post for an accurate you'd

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>be in one world. But as this goes on, you'll

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>discover I think that that's not where we are, and

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>as a result, the case to the Democrats will just

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>keep decaying. I look at Siboloni's letter. I thought it

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>was a brutal takedown that he's sent to Pelosi, shiff

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:30.919
<v Speaker 1>and some others and calling what they are doing unconstitutional, invalid, baseless.

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And I see a lot of reasons for this. I

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>think it's very obvious. Number one, they never accepted the

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>results of the twenty sixteen election. You and I have

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:44.240
<v Speaker 1>discussed that many times. After four separate Russia Trump investigations

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>culminating with Robert Muller, no collusion, no obstruction, they are

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>even more unhinged because they had put everything banked on

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that completely as the way to take out the president.

0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>That didn't work out particularly well. And you know, Thirdly,

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I think al Green kind of telegraphed the real feelings

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>that they have, which is they don't think they can

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>beat Trump. But what they're doing here is they don't

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>want to have a vote in the House and put

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<v Speaker 1>everybody on record. I think that's a big problem, and

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>instead that what they're doing in this particular case, A

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Sippoloni said, down, and this is designed and implemented. They're

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>doing this in a manner that violates all fundamental fairness,

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>constitutionally mandated due process. In this process, they're denying the

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 1>president the right to cross examine witnesses, to call witnesses,

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to even receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence,

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>to have counsel present, other basic fundamental guaranteed rights for

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>all Americans. That would violate every aspect of constitutionality, rule

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>of law, and past precedents. And you were involved in

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>a past precedent, that's right, didn't Let's lets just start

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>with the right to know who this leaker is. Because

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>there was a procedure used for about one hundred and

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>fifty years called a star chamber, and the British government

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.479
<v Speaker 1>used it, and you could be pulled into that room.

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>He had no idea who was accusing you of what

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 1>they were accusing you of, what the evidence was, and

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the government's judges could put lock you up for thirty

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>years and you had never had a chance to find

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>out what the case was well in sixteen forty one,

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that's abolished. And when the founding fathers were right in

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the Constitution, they were very aware of the danger of

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>not being allowed to face your accuser, and so they

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>clearly wanted assistant that was fair and that gave people

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the right to protect themselves. And what the Democrats are

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>doing right now it can only be described as crazy.

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they believe that somebody can make a charge

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that will be used to overturn the American people's choice

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of president, and that person can do it in secret

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>without being challenged. There's no precedent in American system anywhere

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 1>for that kind of one side in process, and it's

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 1>going to fall down on its own. Wait, and of

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>course they put all this under Adam Schiff, and even

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:23.479
<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post gave Adam Schiff four pinocchios for playing

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 1>out lying. Now, you know, if you're a liberal Democrat

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and you get four pinocchios from the Washington Post, you

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>know you're doing something really wrong. And I think Shift

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 1>in that sense is the worst possible person for them

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 1>to put in this kind of situation, because in the end,

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>nobody's going to believe him. Look, you've called this that

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I'm using the same term a coup.

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Everything that they've done I literally played. I don't know

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>if you saw the montage, if you go to my

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Twitter account, we posted it. But they have said impeach

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>and peach and peach all throughout two days, starting two

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>days after Rump was elected, all through twenty seventeen, all

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>through twenty eighteen, now all through twenty nineteen. This has

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>been their ward and Nancy Pelosi when she announced the

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>day before we even knew about what was in this,

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>this conversation with the president and the President of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>We find out there's nothing. There's no there there, there's

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>no quid pro quote, there's nothing that well, we have

0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>many options to impeach him. I mean, I've never I've

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>never witnessed anything like this, considering the level of lawlessness here.

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, Rachel Peterson is my chief researcher, and for

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the last week she's been going back and the stuff

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 1>she spounds unbelievable. The first wave of get rid of

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Trump rallies is on the ninth of November, the day

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>after the election. By mid December, Vanity Fairs running a

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>call an article about the impeachment movement, and on the

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>day that Trump is sworn in at his inaugural, the

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Washington Post has an article on the Democrats planning to

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>impeaching them. So the thing, that's why I called us

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>a coup. This is an effort by left wing Democrats

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to overturn the American people's choice in who the president

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>should be. It has no basis in any kind of reality.

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think Pelosi was still revealing when

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the reporter said to her, well, what if this doesn't work,

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and she basically said, we'll find some other reasons. But

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 1>as I said a while, the challenge she's dot is

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 1>after they're done playing their partisan clowns. He has been

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>SAS's line in the House, it's going to go to

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the Senate. And the more that they behave as really

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 1>partisan clowns, the less likely it is that the Senate

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to take whatever they seriously. So in a

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>very real sense, they're underminding their very own case. All right,

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>As we continue, former Speaker of the House New King

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Richie has rightly identified with the Democrats are doing as

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:06.479
<v Speaker 1>a latest coup attempt. All right, so let's walk through

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 1>this in your mind Okay, if if they're not going

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to offer the president due process, they're not going to

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>have an up or down vote because they want to

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:19.240
<v Speaker 1>protect the forty Democrats that are in Trump won districts

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, and they're just going to push it

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>through anyway. Let's assume that they are successful. Okay, goes

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Senate, it dies, Boy Sean, think of at all.

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>You just said, Oh, I'm aware of what I just said.

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>It's insane. No, I'm just you know what I'm saying.

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>The fact that they're avoiding a vote on the process

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.400
<v Speaker 1>doesn't save those members because in the end, they're going

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to have to get to a vote and do take

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody like like Peterson, who represents northern Minnesota in a

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>district where Trump won by thirty points. And if Peterson

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>comes in and votes to impeach, he might as well

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>not run for reelection. And so I mean when I

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>said the other day that you can drive through impeachment

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're prepared to commit suicide. But that's what that's

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>what she's doing. She is setting up her majority to

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>become a minority because she is putting member after member

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>in a position. Now it could be that when the

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>backlash builds enough, and I must say, the Trump campaign

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>team and the Trump White House, uh and Rona McDonald

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 1>over there and see are all doing a good job

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of building a backlash. Um, it could well be that

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>at that point it just peters out and they don't

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>get to a vote. But at that point that they're

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>going to look pretty stupid though all the wapp they're

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>all made all these strong announcements and then they're going

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 1>to slink away and never ever vote. I think in

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>some ways that could be amazingly constructive for them. What

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>do you think it's gonna be. Do they back down

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>or they go through with it? I would argue they're

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>going to go through with it. I think I think

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 1>they have to go through with it. I'm just so

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 1>sooner or later. Nancy polos He was going to say

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to all of her marginal members, Genie, I really hate

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>to do this to you, but you got to get

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.959
<v Speaker 1>up there and vote. And all of her marginal members

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>are going to be told if you don't vote, yes,

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 1>we're going to find somebody in the primary and we're

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 1>going to beat you in the primary. And so I

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>think she can coerce a majority out of the House.

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 1>But in the process, m I think that they will

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>be just they'll be wrecked as a party you combine

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the left wing proposals of their candidates. I mean, the

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 1>other day, Biden, in a moment of typical irrationality, came

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>out at the gay and lesbian well. He just said,

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>he said, you know, I think people should be able

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to identify themselves and if guys want to go to

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the women's prisoners should be allowed to. Now, I think

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that's probably a losing issue, and I'd like to see

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the twenty fifth year of the contract a new contract

0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>promises to America, and this needs to be a nationally

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 1>run election by Republicans. We'll talk about that next time.

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>New King Rich former Speaker of the House Hannity dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Speaker has always thank you for being with us

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back. Governor Scott Walker, the important swing

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>state for twenty twenty Wisconsin. Where does Donald Trump stand

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 1>say against Elizabeth Warren? That's next, all right, twenty five

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:22.319
<v Speaker 1>till the top of the hour, eight hundred and nine

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 1>four one, Sean. If you want to be a part

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 1>of the program so much, you know, coming out of

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>as we've been talking to people on the ground in

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota and the big rally of the President tonight. I mean,

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty funny stuff. I don't know, I just

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 1>look at Twitter. This is this is not stuff we're reporting,

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>but stuff that people are saying out to you know.

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>The crowd is massive, has been massive. Apparently they're trying

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to bar people reporters from interviewing the people in line,

0:46:55.080 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, the smelly Walmart shoppers like me, the irredeemable, deplorable,

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 1>and so obviously there's there's that component of it. They

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>tried to shut it down ahead of time. And I

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:13.479
<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you, it's apparently massive turnout that's going on there.

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we all ought to call it Maga sodas somebody

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 1>said on Twitter, which was pretty funny. And anyway, people

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 1>camped out like all these Trump rallies overnight, got there

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 1>at seven am, you know, thousand people in line. Then

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the only holds nineteen thousand, three hundred people and maybe

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:36.919
<v Speaker 1>there's one report that they might have even taken away

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the porta potties. That's pretty desperate. That's pretty mean too. Anyway,

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it all comes down to we are almost a year

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>out of what I think will be a tipping point

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>election by far in the country. Assuming now that this

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>is the Democratic side, it's Elizabeth Warrens to lose. Okay, well,

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 1>look at her positions on everything. Well, you don't have

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>to pay back your student debt rate to care for all,

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 1>no private insurance, great, new green deal, get rid of

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>oil gas, the combustion engine. Great, you're gonna get free

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 1>pre K daycare, healthcare, free college, everything's free, guaranteed job,

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>healthy food, and retirement whether you're willing or unwilling to work.

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>And eventually planes in cows. They go to versus what

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the president has been doing and offering and the promises

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:32.439
<v Speaker 1>he's kept. One state that will define November election night

0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty is the great state of Wisconsin. And joining

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>us now is the former governor. That's state. Scott Walker

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>is with us. And by the way, he's been fighting

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 1>on issues involving balanced budgets and fiscal sanity and letting

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the states have more control, which I've always believed in. Governor.

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>How are you. It's great to talk to you, oh, Sean,

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me on. It's a pleasure. I'm doing

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 1>well and I know you're doing well. In America's doing

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 1>always got to keep it going. Well. Well, I think

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that's true, all right. You know Wisconsin as well as anybody.

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I remember before twenty sixteen, I talked to a lot

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of people that know your state that were telling me

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:14.399
<v Speaker 1>Trump had no chance to win, and he did. Where

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>do you think he stands at this moment because I

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's a particularly I don't think he's that

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 1>politician that you can poll with any particular amount of accuracy. Oh,

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you're exactly right, John. I think it is

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be a title action. Remember he carried the state,

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 1>which was the first time or Republican I carried it

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>since Reagan did in nineteen eighty four. He carried it

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.959
<v Speaker 1>with a plurality that didn't get fifty percent, but got

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>more than Hillary Clinton. And I think it's going to

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:41.800
<v Speaker 1>be that close again. If the facts get out, it

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 1>should be a blowout. But as it is across America,

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>we know that there are mini media outlets out there

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that keep the voters from the facts, that the stort

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>the facts are just outright why out there. But I

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be incredibly close. A poll this

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.600
<v Speaker 1>week from Fox News actually said he was down by

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:02.800
<v Speaker 1>nine points. I remind people that day if it's a

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Fox poll that you know, Dick Morris looked into the

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 1>internals of this the questions prior to the impeachment question

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:14.719
<v Speaker 1>were you know, a negative towards Trump and number two

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.239
<v Speaker 1>there were forty eight you know percent of respondents were Democrats,

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>only forty Republican. I mean, well, right, seean And the

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 1>kicker of this is where my point is that the

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 1>days before the twenty sixteen election, a Marquette University Law

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:32.280
<v Speaker 1>school poll in the state was pretty historically fairly reliable

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 1>show Hillary Clinton winning by six points. Obviously she lost

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:38.879
<v Speaker 1>the election. I think it is always true in our

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>state the Republicans poll lower than Democrats. I think it

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:45.919
<v Speaker 1>is multiplied by Donald Trump because part of the reason

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Republicans don't respond is they get tired of getting beat

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>up by the media and posters for supporting Republicans. I

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's even more true of this president, and so

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it is close. But on the other hand,

0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I would mourn those who, like myself, support the president.

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>We cannot take it for granted because Wisconsin the key

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>say you gotta win Wisconsin to win the president. Well,

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, And you know, I look at

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the jobs that have been creative. Now I'll speak generally.

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<v Speaker 1>I see the people of Wisconsin as as the heart

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and soul of America. The people that work hard, played

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:23.319
<v Speaker 1>by the rules, pay their taxes, contribute to society, raise

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 1>their kids, and they are what makes America great. They

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 1>are They're not attracted to the swamp the sewer that

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 1>would be New York City or DC or San Francisco

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>or Los Angeles. Now here the president we you know,

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the last eight years before President Trump got in an office,

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:48.879
<v Speaker 1>we had thirteen million more Americans on food stamps, eight

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 1>million more in poverty, We had the worst recovery since

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>the forties, the lowest labor participation rate since the seventies.

0:51:56.560 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Now we got seven million fewer people on food stamps,

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 1>millions out of poverty, seven million new jobs, energy independence,

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and a president that's fighting for better trade deals that

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 1>will greatly impact particularly farmers and dairy farmers in the

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.799
<v Speaker 1>great state of Wisconsin. So I think all of that

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 1>would be good for Wisconsin. To the people of Wisconsin

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>see that, or are they going to fall prey to

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 1>the media perceptions on the president. Well, I think it's

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 1>as split as it's ever been. People who get the facts.

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I always tell people, take your thumb and put it

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.799
<v Speaker 1>over the name of the person I'm talking about, which

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 1>is exactly the list you rat it off. If I

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 1>pointed out, not only is unemployment the lowest in America,

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.959
<v Speaker 1>it's been in roughly fifty years. In Wisconsin, it's never

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.040
<v Speaker 1>been lower than it's been the last year and a half.

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 1>It's been consistently added below three percent, which was the

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 1>previous all time low. You see record low unemployment levels

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>for African American, Latino American, people with disabilities, veterans in

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>this country. We see in Wisconsin, just as we see

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>nationally more job openings than we actually have people to

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 1>fill them. Ages are up. The economy is heading in

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the right direction. And a prime example, Sean, you mentioned

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 1>that trade deal. You know, one of the biggest controversies

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that doesn't get covered is why Speaker Pelosi

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 1>is sitting on this trade deal that the President negotiated

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:16.799
<v Speaker 1>with Mexico and Canada that would help me only dairy

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>farmers in Wisconsin across the country and manufacturing workers. But

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:22.960
<v Speaker 1>we can't get Pelosi to get up and vote on

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it because she knows it'll pass if it gets voted on.

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.320
<v Speaker 1>But they don't want to give this president a victory.

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>That is how shallow they have been becoming. Washington and

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the American people got to fight back. Well, I agree.

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Look stylistically, I'll take Paul Ryan for examples, and I

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>know he's a good friend of yours. Paul Ryan does

0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>not like Donald Trump's style. Now, I've had this conversation

0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:46.799
<v Speaker 1>with Mitt Romney. I said, you know, Mit, I said,

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I understand, you're a great guy. You're not a New

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:54.200
<v Speaker 1>York real estate mogul who wakes up in the morning

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and fights every day. You know, but they still when

0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>you ran for president, they tried to paint you as

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a racist and a misogynist and a sexist and a

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:06.279
<v Speaker 1>homophobe and everything in between. They did the same thing

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that John McCain. The only difference is Trump fought back.

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 1>But everything Mitt Romney ran on, Well, the President's putting

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 1>originalists on the court. He gave us the biggest tax

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:18.120
<v Speaker 1>cut in history. The president also got rid of more

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 1>bureaucracy than every president in the past hundred years. He's

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 1>building the Wall. He delivered on trade deals with Japan,

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Western Europe, Canada, Mexico, and he's trying now with China.

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so, why do I establish Republicans hate um? Well,

0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:39.280
<v Speaker 1>he put the embassy in Jerusalem, as everyone else had promised,

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:40.799
<v Speaker 1>but only he had the guts to do. He's the

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>most pro life president in modern American history, including even

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.680
<v Speaker 1>more so than the guy I idolized, Ronald Reagans. He

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:50.479
<v Speaker 1>had done it all. And one of the things stron

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you'll appreciate this. I love seeing newly here in Wisconsin,

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.760
<v Speaker 1>but across the nation, and that is Washington is filled

0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:00.279
<v Speaker 1>with politicians who say and talk the right way, but

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:03.759
<v Speaker 1>don't do squad On occasion, this president might say or

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:05.800
<v Speaker 1>tweet something somewhat different than I had a lot of

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>people have been Westwood. But you know what, I'll take

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:10.959
<v Speaker 1>that because he actually gets the job done. I'll take

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that over people who talk right but don't get the

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:15.560
<v Speaker 1>job done. We got a president who gets the job done,

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and we need to remind our fellow citizens, our neighbors

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 1>or friends, the people we worship with that's the only

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.279
<v Speaker 1>way he's going to win this election. That's the only

0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:26.319
<v Speaker 1>way to count the onslaught of attacks. And believe me,

0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 1>we know it. We saw it here in Wisconsin. You

0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:31.319
<v Speaker 1>covered it. You know what we faced. We had. How

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>many elections did you have and how many years? Because

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:37.440
<v Speaker 1>they were after you every day they were. They actually

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>registered a website domain name called recall Scott Walker dot

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 1>com on the day I was elected at twenty ten.

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I can absolutely relate to the president. They've been trying

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to impeach him since they wanted it. Didn't matter what

0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 1>it was. I mean, Mike Goodness, as you've covered, Nancy

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Pelosi hadn't even read the transcript before she announced it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we're up against here in Wisconsin, across

0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the nation, people who care not just about themselves, but

0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>care about their kids, their grandkids in future generations. I

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.719
<v Speaker 1>got to stand up because we cannot let whether it's

0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Laurren or Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders or any

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:10.359
<v Speaker 1>of the other socialist or want to be socialist out

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 1>there control of this country, because they will set us

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:15.440
<v Speaker 1>back so far. Let me ask the direct question you're in.

0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's assume I'm right, and it's Elizabeth warrens to lose.

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It's Trump versus Warren. Look and assume for a minute too,

0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that they impeach the president. It goes nowhere in the

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Senate over nothing. I mean, it's the most ridiculous thing

0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. Okay, who wins in Wisconsin's if it's

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Warren. You know her positions as well as this

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 1>audience does. Yeah, I think more than the fact that

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:42.319
<v Speaker 1>she's a socialist, more of the fact that she wants

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to shut down dairy farmers and get rid of planes

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and do all sorts of things that would not fare

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:49.000
<v Speaker 1>well Wisconsin. I think the biggest problem she's going to

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.720
<v Speaker 1>have in Wisconsin. Why Trump will win against Elizabeth Lawn

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 1>is because she's a fraud. I firmly believe voters who

0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>were on the bubble in Wisconsin did not vote for

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Hillary because they thought she would do and say absolutely

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:05.240
<v Speaker 1>anything to get elected. It may not have always agreed

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 1>with what the president said, but they knew he was

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 1>a straight shooter who said what he was going to do.

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 1>With that he has done it, and I think that's

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:13.839
<v Speaker 1>a great contrast. The biggest worry I have isn't her

0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:17.400
<v Speaker 1>or by It's Bernie Sanders. As crazy as his ideas are,

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the one thing I'll give him is he is who

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>he says he is. The others are just want to

0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 1>be who will say anything to get elected. Well, I

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 1>think Elizabeth Warren basically adopts everything Bernie adopts and then

0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 1>puts it on steroids exactly. I mean, she's further to

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the lip it. I mean even this stuff with her

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 1>false claim about not going to get job as a teacher,

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the false claim about her Native American heritage, all those things.

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:41.919
<v Speaker 1>I think for people who are up in the air,

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 1>those are things that really strike them. As you mentioned

0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>in your introduction, the people in the Midwest year are honest, good, decent,

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 1>hardworking people. They'll treat you nice, but they stand up

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 1>for their values, and more than anything else, they value

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 1>people who are authentic, people who tell the truth, who

0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 1>tell it like it is. That's what this president it does.

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>People like Elizabeth Lawn are just posers who shift this way. Governor,

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 1>she's trying to shake it from Bernie. Stay right there.

0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I know you're working on dead issues. I want to

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:14.200
<v Speaker 1>ask you about that, Governor Scott Walker, Wisconsin with US

0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and nine for one Sean Tolfrey telephone number

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.000
<v Speaker 1>at the top of the hour. Wow, if you haven't

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 1>seen the allegation about Matt Lower the front cover of

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Today's New York Post. Matt Lower raped me. I mean

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 1>this back and forth in this new book by Ronan Farrow.

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that with Danielle and Jonathan and also

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the issue of the NBA in China as right as

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:41.760
<v Speaker 1>we continue. Former Governor Great State of Wisconsin, Scott Walker.

0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 1>By the way, how are you packers this year? They

0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:46.439
<v Speaker 1>look pretty good. Aaron Rodgers is amazing. Yeah, big big

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 1>gwinn in the Cowboy territory of Texas. Oh, I mean

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.040
<v Speaker 1>was a blowout. That was a great game. Let me

0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 1>ask you this, so I agree with you, and I

0:58:56.280 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 1>think Trump is facing the same scenario that Reagan faced.

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Reagan comes into office, he called the military divide a

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:06.919
<v Speaker 1>gap of vulnerability because ships couldn't go out to see

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have spare parts. He had to spend a

0:59:08.680 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of money in his first term in particular, and

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 1>it didn't put the debt up. And President Trump to

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 1>get the money to rebuild the military, you know, similarly

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 1>is and he's saying it. He spent more money than

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 1>he ever wanted to, but that's how he got the

0:59:24.840 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 1>deal done. And he plans on dealing with the debt

0:59:26.760 --> 0:59:30.640
<v Speaker 1>in the second term, assuming he gets it. This thing

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:33.200
<v Speaker 1>is hanging over our head. We got to get rid

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of it, and you're trying to deal with it. Well,

0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly right, and a lot better off right now

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 1>if he didn't have to get things through Nancy Pelosi's

0:59:40.760 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 1>house this last year. Long term, obviously we're better off

0:59:44.400 --> 0:59:46.479
<v Speaker 1>if Kevin McCarthy's there and there's a whole new slave

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 1>of leaders. But even beyond this president and get God

0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:53.960
<v Speaker 1>willing he gets reelected long term, we've seen this is

0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>one of those issues that goes through administrations and to

0:59:56.680 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 1>your commerses at both parties. The way Washington is set up,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think the Congress is incapable of reigning in

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<v Speaker 1>the deficit. And it turned the long term debt. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it nearly doubled when Bush was president, it nearly doubled

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<v Speaker 1>when Obama's president. It's approaching by twenty twenty five thirty

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars. And those numbers sound so big, but I

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<v Speaker 1>tell people that's like having a kid making forty six

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<v Speaker 1>grand a year carrying three hundred thousand dollars worth of debt.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just one of the things that we'd all

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<v Speaker 1>have an intervention with that person to get them back

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<v Speaker 1>on track. They're spending more than they take in the

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<v Speaker 1>federalgrament's got to do. What The good news is, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a solution. We can pass a balanced budget min and

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<v Speaker 1>just like Reagan push for, and the way to do

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<v Speaker 1>it is not to rely on Congress, is to get

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds of the states to do it. Twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>of the thirty four needed have already passed it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a plan over the next two years to

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<v Speaker 1>get those last remaining six states. All right, Scott Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, it's been a while, You've always been

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<v Speaker 1>a good friend of the program. I know you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to help the president and as real luck, would you

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<v Speaker 1>ever consider going into the administration? Well, I told the

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<v Speaker 1>President earlier this year the best way I can help

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<v Speaker 1>him is make sure he wins the states. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>proud to be as chairman in Wisconsin and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what God's got planned for the future. But we got

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<v Speaker 1>to get him elected first and foremost. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>get him some help in the House, and we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to take on long term mus issues like the balance budget.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got more details at Scott Walker dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'd love to have people join our fight here

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<v Speaker 1>in Wisconsin, across the nation. All right, Governor, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being with us. Eight hundred and nine four one. Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be a part of the program. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>the issue the NBA and China, the front cover tabloid

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<v Speaker 1>New York New York Post, Matt Lower raped me. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that, Danielle Jonathan. Next, stay right here

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<v Speaker 1>for our final news round up and information overload. After

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<v Speaker 1>so many people have been chasing this for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you think they are now coming forward. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>each of these sources really tore their guts out giving

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<v Speaker 1>these horrifying details. This was a traumatic experience to relieve

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<v Speaker 1>these events, and there's very little upside for them. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a brave and iportant thing they did, and

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<v Speaker 1>they did it because they thought it could prevent potentially

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<v Speaker 1>future crimes. Again and again, sources talked about doing that

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<v Speaker 1>because they felt there was a change in the culture,

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<v Speaker 1>that there was more of a culture accountability now. As

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<v Speaker 1>something you may know, I issued a statement shortly before

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<v Speaker 1>this press conference because I thought there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of misunderstanding out there about our position. I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>had been somewhat straightforward, but I can understand, given translations

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<v Speaker 1>and given interpretations in different parts of the world, why

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<v Speaker 1>there might have been some confusion. And essentially what I've

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<v Speaker 1>said in that statement is the long held values of

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA are to support freedom of expression and certainly

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<v Speaker 1>freedom of expression by members of the NBA community, and

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, Daryl Morey, as the general manager of

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<v Speaker 1>the Houston Rockets, enjoys that right as one of our employees.

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<v Speaker 1>What I also tried to suggest is I understand that

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<v Speaker 1>there are consequences from that exercise, in essence his freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of speech, and you know, we will have to live

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<v Speaker 1>with those consequences. It's my hope that for our Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>fans and our partners in China, they will see those

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<v Speaker 1>remarks in the context of now a three decade, if

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<v Speaker 1>not longer, relationship and that we've done in partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese Basketball Association, the Department of Education, and many

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<v Speaker 1>different businesses in China. I feel enormous amount to build

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<v Speaker 1>the sport, to work in communities, to focus on healthy lifestyles,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where we find ourselves. But that as a

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<v Speaker 1>league we are not willing to compromise those values. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I'm sympathetic to our interests here and to our

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<v Speaker 1>partners who are upset, and I don't think it's inconsistent

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<v Speaker 1>on one hand to be sympathetic to them and at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time stand by our principles. We are not

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<v Speaker 1>apologizing for Darryl exercising his freedom of expression. I regret

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<v Speaker 1>again having communicated directly with many friends in China, that

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<v Speaker 1>so many people are upset, including millions and millions of

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<v Speaker 1>our fans. I mean, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we come with basketball as an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>sell dreams, sell hopes that to you know, reacently focus

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<v Speaker 1>on physical fitness. Hi, Christina mcfallen's CNN. The NBA has

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<v Speaker 1>always been a league that prides itself on its player

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<v Speaker 1>and its coaches being able to speak out openly about

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<v Speaker 1>political and societal affairs. I just wonder, after the events

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<v Speaker 1>of this week and the fall out we've seen, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you would both feel differently about speaking out in that

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<v Speaker 1>way in future. It's a legitimate question. This is an

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<v Speaker 1>event that's happened this week during during the NBA, and

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<v Speaker 1>the answer this particular question has not been listed Jane An,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a question, gentlemen in friends all right? That

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<v Speaker 1>was that last cut. That was a question of a

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<v Speaker 1>reporter and not allowing NBA players to even be asked

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<v Speaker 1>a single question about about this entire issue. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Whitlock, who was with Fox Sports one, was almos

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<v Speaker 1>Us on Hannity last night. I mean, it's it's devastating,

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<v Speaker 1>um because you have the NBA commissioner, you know, Adam

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<v Speaker 1>silver Is, you know, where is he on this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They have no problem with NBA players trashing Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis, but China. Now, Whitlock made an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting point. He thinks it's all connected to Nike. That

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA is an eight billion dollars a year business,

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<v Speaker 1>which I had no idea about, But Nike's like forty

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars a year, and a lot of it comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to money in all of this, and the NBA just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basically, you know, bowing down to communist Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not going to allow anybody to speak out

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<v Speaker 1>or stand for freedom as it relates to Hong Kong

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<v Speaker 1>and the Chinese crack down there. And before that, you

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<v Speaker 1>heard Matt Lower hailing Ronan Farrow for exposing the Harvey

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<v Speaker 1>Weinstein scandal. Well, I don't think he feels the same

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<v Speaker 1>way today. The front page headline in the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Post as Matt Lower raped me, NBC anchor all lies.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a consensual affair, And it's a back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth between the two of them. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't even know how to interpret it.

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<v Speaker 1>She claimed that that he raped her, and he's claiming

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<v Speaker 1>that is false, and I don't know how to How

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<v Speaker 1>does one ascertain the truth in a lot of these cases? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>He also goes on to say nothing could be further

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<v Speaker 1>from the truth. There was nothing aggressive about the encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't cry, she didn't do this, and at no

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<v Speaker 1>time did she behave in any way that made it

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<v Speaker 1>appear that she was incapable of consent. And then apparently

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<v Speaker 1>he's claiming that this extramarital affair went on for some

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<v Speaker 1>time thereafter, wasn't just a one night thing in so

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<v Speaker 1>she or apparently this started anyway. Joining us to help

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<v Speaker 1>break all this men this down and maybe get to

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<v Speaker 1>some truth. Here is Jonathan Gillum and Danielle McLaughlin. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you both for being with us, Danielle, let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>the lour issue. Two very distinctly different accounts here by

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<v Speaker 1>two individuals. How do we get to truth in a

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<v Speaker 1>moment like that? Okay, Sean, Hey, Jonathan, it's it's madness

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<v Speaker 1>this right, it's it's so hard to know in these

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<v Speaker 1>situations with all the information we have, which is frankly

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<v Speaker 1>not that much. An excerpt from Ronan Farrow's book What

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<v Speaker 1>Really Happened Here? And you know, see, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we have the legal system for. If she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>press charges, if she wants to follow this through, she

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<v Speaker 1>will have every opportunity to do that, and a jury

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<v Speaker 1>of their peers will get to the truth. Clearly, this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be discussed in media. There are always

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<v Speaker 1>concerns where you have to the people in positions of

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<v Speaker 1>power and under these circumstances, and there are always problems

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<v Speaker 1>when you have issues of alcohol. She claims she was

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<v Speaker 1>incapable of consent because she had had, I think in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of vodka that night when they were all out.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she had six shots of acca. But what

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<v Speaker 1>Lauer is saying that it was an extramarital affair, but

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<v Speaker 1>consensual sexual encounters and saying that he had this affair

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<v Speaker 1>with her beginning in twenty fourteen when she came to

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<v Speaker 1>his room late one night in Sochi, Russia. Again that's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, and she said that she and Lower did

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<v Speaker 1>go on to have more sexual encounters, some of which

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<v Speaker 1>she initiated. It was completely transactional. Transactional, she says, not

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship. Does that impact the story at all that

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<v Speaker 1>after this incident, as she didn't report it and be

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<v Speaker 1>she continued to have then she moved on to an

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<v Speaker 1>affair with him if you believe her account in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. I know, as a matter of law, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things may come before a jury, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are instances where people are married and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a sexual assault within that marriage. So consent is what

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<v Speaker 1>matters here and the facts will come out if this

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<v Speaker 1>in fact comes into into a legal situation. This is

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<v Speaker 1>awful and horrible, and I have great sympathy, particularly for

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<v Speaker 1>her because she is the person who is not in

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<v Speaker 1>a position of power. But it's not for me to

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<v Speaker 1>assist who was right and who was wrong, and who

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<v Speaker 1>was telling the truth and who was lying. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>courts are for all, right. Jonathan Gillham, what's your take

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<v Speaker 1>on first Allower situation. Then we'll get to the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>in China. Well, so I try to stay very, very

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<v Speaker 1>neutral and unemotional in these situations because we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the truth is. I think Danielle said something there

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<v Speaker 1>that is typical of society now. And I'm not just

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<v Speaker 1>saying liberals a typical society where they say I'm sympathetic

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<v Speaker 1>for the female because of this, but we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. Well, I don't apply sympathy or emotions in

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<v Speaker 1>a case like this, where allegations are made like this

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<v Speaker 1>in the court of public opinion, because we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we don't even know the reality of any

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff because it's one person saying something and

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<v Speaker 1>the other person saying another one, and a reporter, not

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<v Speaker 1>a law enforcement officer who's collected evidence at the moment

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<v Speaker 1>of the crime. We're not talking about something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about a reporter who is going to make

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<v Speaker 1>money off of a book, and the more salacious he

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<v Speaker 1>can make it, the better. And so that's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>put a lot of stock in these types of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this bad part about this is that

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<v Speaker 1>for people who are actually raped and who go through

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<v Speaker 1>these situations. The way that the public looks at it

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<v Speaker 1>now is there are a lot of people are afraid

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<v Speaker 1>to bring these allegations out because they're afraid of repercussions,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they don't go and report it right away.

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<v Speaker 1>That or, like I was saying, you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying this for years, since I've been on radio and TV.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something like this happens tone and you're afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>come out, write down what happened, have a witness, sign

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<v Speaker 1>it still the envelope, and send it to yourself. At

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<v Speaker 1>least you're going to say this is from that day

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<v Speaker 1>and age. And we just have people who are not

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, who are not thinking in that why

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<v Speaker 1>they're just saying, well, we're not going to do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they bring it in the court of public opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it actually did happen to them, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of degrades their story. And that's a sad part about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I've really done a pretty good job I

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<v Speaker 1>think learning a lesson of Richard Jewell, and instinctively I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>just because he lives with his mother doesn't mean he

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<v Speaker 1>fit the profile. Of the lone bomber. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this a lot, Danielle on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>We we withhold judgment. We believe in due process. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the rest of look a look at the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the media mob. We were right about Uva.

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<v Speaker 1>We were right about the Ducal Cross situation. We ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being right about Ferguson Missouri and George Zimmerman and Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland and Cambridge police. We were right about vetting Obama.

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<v Speaker 1>We were right in the end. I think Kavanaugh, that

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<v Speaker 1>whole story fell apart, right about this kid, Nicholas Sandman

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody else rushes to judgment. I just I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>tell my audience that I know what happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>matt lower case. I don't know. No, and you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jonathan doesn't and I don't and I certainly don't

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<v Speaker 1>profess to know. And thing they both say is that

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<v Speaker 1>they had an extra marital affair. She's saying that it

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<v Speaker 1>was initiated with being raped in Sochi in Russia in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, right, And I will say, there's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>we have courts of law to determine what really to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the facts. So there isn't a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>this trial in the public, okay, based on what we

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<v Speaker 1>have in the record and that he said she said,

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<v Speaker 1>how does that play out in a courtroom? In your view?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know. One thing I will say

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<v Speaker 1>is if she accuses him of a crime and that

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<v Speaker 1>is found to be false, as she's lying that five

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<v Speaker 1>years after the fact, apparently she but hey, we know

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't file a police report. It's five years now

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<v Speaker 1>after them. It's not unusual. Okay, I've granted it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean I'm agreeing with you. That's why I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's five years later. She didn't file on an

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<v Speaker 1>initial report. She had the extramarital affair, by her own

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<v Speaker 1>admission later. So bring it to a court of law.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that play out you're the lawyer. Come down

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<v Speaker 1>to it's going to come down to the credibility of

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them. It's going to come down to

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<v Speaker 1>Hoojura's belief. That's that's all that really matters in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>She could have married him, and she could still, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bring a claim if she believes that she has the

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<v Speaker 1>facts to do it. My point is that there could

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<v Speaker 1>be along an ongoing sexual you know, engagement. Walk us

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<v Speaker 1>through the court process. I'm asking you very specifically, it's

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<v Speaker 1>in a court of law, Yes, walk us through. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Lowers lawyers go after her right, okay, So that it

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<v Speaker 1>was consentual. They're going to say it was consentual, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was evidence by the fact that she was in

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<v Speaker 1>a long term relationship with him. Okay. Now, now, shar

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers are going to say, yeah, she did have the

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<v Speaker 1>consensual relationship later, but this did happen, correct, So now

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she told somebody at the time. Okay, Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>assume that happened, okay, and reportedly she did. Reportedly they

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<v Speaker 1>were she had Jonathan, you made this point earlier, the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of contemporaneous reporting, So you write something down, or

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<v Speaker 1>you tell a friend. The laws of the rules of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence in a courtroom give a lot of stock to

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<v Speaker 1>to to win. A person who has is making accusation

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<v Speaker 1>or is innocent of something tells somebody else at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>there is weight given to those statements on the basis

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<v Speaker 1>that they are generally reliable. So if she told a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, if she confided in someone, that boosts

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<v Speaker 1>that bolst is her credibility. Well, you know, again, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the truth is. But when you are

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<v Speaker 1>looking at credibility, if they were to bring up the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that mattl Oerson, you know, it goes both ways

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<v Speaker 1>because the court is gonna air on the facts, and

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<v Speaker 1>if the facts are hearsay, it's just simply it's what

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<v Speaker 1>you see in the media every day with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just trying to destroy credibility. And that's exactly what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen if this would ever come to a case.

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<v Speaker 1>But I honestly don't see how this could come to

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<v Speaker 1>a case myself. If it does, it's a frivolous case.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that you know, the attorneys are that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be going back and forth on this

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<v Speaker 1>are really going to be trying to push the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>At least Matt Lower's attorneys would be pushing the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that she didn't work for him under his authority, they

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<v Speaker 1>had continuous affair. What if she's telling the truth though,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know they're gonna say that again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>playing devil's advocate. Yeah. Now, that's that's the hard part

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and that's why I always that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>always saying, you know when I if I ask people

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<v Speaker 1>on things is if something happened to your first thing

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<v Speaker 1>I do is tell somebody. The second thing you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do is you need to get a rape kit. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to get things done because this is you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get yourself into this situation. All right, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you both hard issues, and I'll tell you. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get time to get to the China issue

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<v Speaker 1>with the NBA. We'll hit that at the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of this break. Eight hundred and nine for one Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Tolfrey telephone number HI twenty five to the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the hour. All right, let me play the Today's Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Savannah Guthrie and Hoda reacting to the front cover of

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Post today, Matt Lower raped For the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, we're hearing from the woman who's complaint led

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<v Speaker 1>to Matt Lower's fiery The former NBC News employee, whose

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<v Speaker 1>identity has been kept anonymous by NBC News at her request,

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<v Speaker 1>is now speaking out publicly. The woman Brooke Neville's sat

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<v Speaker 1>down with Ronan Farrow for his new book, Catch and Kill.

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<v Speaker 1>NBC News has not obtained a copy of the book,

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<v Speaker 1>but Variety did and release details of her interview overnight

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<v Speaker 1>in the book, Neville's alleged lower raped her in his

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room at the twenty fourteen Socie Olympics, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>owe it to our viewers to pause for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is shocking and appalling, and I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what to say about it. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that we I know it wasn't easy for

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<v Speaker 1>our colleague book to come forward, then it's not easy now,

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<v Speaker 1>and we support her and any women who have come

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<v Speaker 1>forward with claims, and it's just very painful for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us at NBC and who are at the Today Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's very, very, very difficult. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at you and I'm having a weird moment that we

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<v Speaker 1>were sitting here just like this two years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>truth be told, Savannah, I did a little prayer upstairs

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<v Speaker 1>just before, just to sort of sort out what we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to do. And I think it's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you've known someone for twelve years. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys have ever felt like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know someone, you know them, you feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>know them inside and out, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>like a door opens up and it's a part of

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<v Speaker 1>them you didn't know, and we don't know all the

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<v Speaker 1>facts and all of this, but there are not allegations

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<v Speaker 1>of an affair. There are allegations of a crime, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's shocking to all of us here who've

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<v Speaker 1>sat with Matt for many, many years. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna just sort of continue to process this part

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<v Speaker 1>of this horrific story. And as you said, you know

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<v Speaker 1>our thoughts or with Brook that's not easy. What she

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<v Speaker 1>did to come forward not easy at all, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think I speak for all of us. We're disturbed in

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<v Speaker 1>our core. Yeah, and we have a commitment to keep

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<v Speaker 1>even for house and we will continue to do that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then this what we played earlier, I'll play it again,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Lower hailing the author of this book, Ronan Farroh,

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<v Speaker 1>on a previous occasion for exposing Harvey Weinstein and that scandal.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronan Farrow was a contributor for The New Yorker and

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<v Speaker 1>an NBC News contributing correspondent as well. Ronan, good morning

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<v Speaker 1>to you. You've been working this story for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>both for NBC News and The New Yorker. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it has been a long and difficult process to get

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<v Speaker 1>these actresses to be identified and go on the record

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<v Speaker 1>with their allegations. After so many people have been chasing

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<v Speaker 1>this for so long, why do you think they are

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<v Speaker 1>now coming forward. Look, each of these sources really tore

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<v Speaker 1>their guts out giving these horrifying details. This was a

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic experience to relieve these events, and there's very little

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<v Speaker 1>upside for them. You know, this was a brave and

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<v Speaker 1>important thing they did, and they did it because they

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<v Speaker 1>thought it could prevent potentially crimes. Again and again. Source

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<v Speaker 1>has talked about doing that because they felt there was

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<v Speaker 1>a change in the culture, that there is more of

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<v Speaker 1>a culture accountability. Now, all right, eight hundred ninety four one, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm we're gonna get to your calls here. I look,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you guys have really engaged in this. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I said it best with Danielle and Jonathan. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the answer. I think we've done a very

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<v Speaker 1>good job on this program of believing in due process, Linda.

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<v Speaker 1>Take for example, with the Abanati case. Remember Avanati's girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he had three separate jurisdictions investigating him. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I could have treated Abanati the way he treated Justice

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<v Speaker 1>Kavanaugh with Julie sweat Nick. But that's not who we

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<v Speaker 1>are and that's not what we do. And I learned

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<v Speaker 1>that lesson with Richard Jewell. It has served us this

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<v Speaker 1>program and my TV show well over the years. You know,

1:20:53.120 --> 1:20:55.680
<v Speaker 1>how is it everybody in the media gets it wrong

1:20:55.720 --> 1:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>about Nicholas Sandman rush to judgment, Justice Cavanaugh, rush to judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Duke Lacrosse rushed to judgment UVA, same story,

1:21:06.280 --> 1:21:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Ferguson Missouri, same story, Freddie Gray Baltimore, creating an expectation

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<v Speaker 1>of a result that was never going to happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>we work our sources. You know. For example, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>early on when nobody else knew. I had sources off

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<v Speaker 1>the record telling me we have eyewitnesses that contradict everything

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<v Speaker 1>that is that the media is telling us. I knew it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I worked my sources. Same with in the case,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to Richard Jewell, you know. Or for example,

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<v Speaker 1>when the Duke Lacrosse situation happened, Well, okay, they're making

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<v Speaker 1>allegations against kids. Some of these kids came from New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I went out to their house and I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>some of the parents and kids and I got a

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<v Speaker 1>different side of the story. And what eighty ninety Duke

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<v Speaker 1>professors at the time, you know, basically saying they're all

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<v Speaker 1>guilty and you don't know. You read a headline like this,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Lower raped me, and Matt Lower came out with

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<v Speaker 1>a statement absolutely denying it. The one thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>did agree on is after this incident in twenty fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>in Sochi, Russia, that they did have an ongoing affair.

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<v Speaker 1>They both admit to that. But then again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's five years later. How does this play out? Where's

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<v Speaker 1>the truth? What if she did tell apparently she did

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<v Speaker 1>tell people at the time it had happened. You're all

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<v Speaker 1>looking at me like I don't know the answer. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I am saying I don't know, But that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>always do until we do know. We were right about

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<v Speaker 1>Trump Russia collusion. Nobody else was, and we're also right

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<v Speaker 1>about this Ukraine thing with Joe Biden. Nobody else is

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<v Speaker 1>reporting that Joe Biden's on tape admitting it. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts, I mean, listen, you know, we could talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this all day, and I'm sure the audience hang on.

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<v Speaker 1>We can talk about it all about it all day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talk about it. We'll have a couple of coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>will talk about it. You know, I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if he did it, I'm like, oh my gosh, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>like that. No presumption of innocence. Now, listen, the guy's

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<v Speaker 1>got a little bit of a sketchy past, right, got

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<v Speaker 1>a button under his desk that locks in his office. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's weird. We'll hang on. He denied that too in

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<v Speaker 1>my statement. Now, there are multiple women that have come

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<v Speaker 1>out and said I was in his office, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a button. Until I see that desk with the button,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe anything, right, because that's that's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point of being presumed innocent until proven guilty. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>one person's word against another person's word is not guilt.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The only other way to get guilt beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence is at an emission, you know. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it's interesting how it parallels to the Biden thing. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So mainstream networks are not giving Biden anytime. We're not hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not hearing about what he did, what his son did.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how much money these guys made, where it

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<v Speaker 1>came from the funneling, you know, we spent twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>million tacks pay of dollars to find out that the

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<v Speaker 1>president had nothing to do with Russia. Since Russia didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out, we're gonna look at Ukraine. We have evidence

1:24:13.680 --> 1:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>of previous presidents and vice presidents doing the faious things.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it was giving one hundred and fifty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and unmarked bills to Iranian mullahs, whether it was Obama

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<v Speaker 1>giving over two million dollars to Hezbollah and Hamas in

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<v Speaker 1>the last three days of his presidency, whether it's Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden and his son benefiting from Borisma holdings. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter what it is. None of that matters to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now they're trying to hold Matt Loward at

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<v Speaker 1>the same standards because they're like, oh no, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we bash these guys, so now we gotta stick with it. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we just bash everybody. Everybody's guilty until proven innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anything like it. It's outrageous, and I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but instinctively I just can't be that person that rush

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<v Speaker 1>us to judgment night, but beyond even Russian to judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, no, hold on one second. As a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Okay, I hang on one second. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a somebody. You know, if some he raped me,

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<v Speaker 1>I would not continue to see them. I would not

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<v Speaker 1>marry them. Now, I'm not saying that that happens. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it didn't happen. Not to say it didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, it just seems really odd to me that

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're raped, it's traumatic, and then you willfully continue dating.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's talking about an act of violence. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go into the details. That is like, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the thing that blows you away, Like, the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's strange is that she says that she consented to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to date him, not that she was pushed into

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<v Speaker 1>dating him. Like if it was like, hey, I did

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<v Speaker 1>this to you and you're going to deal with it,

1:25:36.120 --> 1:25:37.920
<v Speaker 1>or you're not going anywhere at NBC and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure you never have a career in this business.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody is I don't. I honestly believe that there are

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<v Speaker 1>psychological forces that I am not equipped to understand. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying that up front. You know, it's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>the Stockholm syndrome is a real thing. It really happens

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<v Speaker 1>where you sympathize with your captor. That was a big

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<v Speaker 1>issue with the Patty Hurst case, for example. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and almost you have to my view, separate what might

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<v Speaker 1>have happened after this from what actually she's saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he did, because I don't know. I don't understand in

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<v Speaker 1>any way, shape, manner, or form the psychology of any

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I don't tell you a really sad story

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<v Speaker 1>because I would on the face of it, I would

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<v Speaker 1>agree doesn't That doesn't make sense to me, But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it didn't happen either. So get this. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a friend, right, my son, Wicked Smont going to

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<v Speaker 1>college YadA, YadA, YadA, carries around these little pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>paper prince Himount and says, I consent to go out

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<v Speaker 1>with we'll call him Joe. Joe has space for the

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<v Speaker 1>date this was illegally. I was not I was not drugged,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not forced. I consent to the date, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, willfully went up on this. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>has another one in case they decided to sleep together,

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<v Speaker 1>or in case they decided to do anything else. He

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<v Speaker 1>has everything in writing because so many of his friends

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<v Speaker 1>on campus are being accused of things that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>How sad is this? I mean, you know, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>sad that there are people that do these evil, horrific,

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<v Speaker 1>violent things. And I think it's hard. And I used

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<v Speaker 1>to say this in my speech when I wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>book Deliverers from Evil. That's two thousand and four, that's

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago I wrote that book, and I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I think good people have a very hard time wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>their minds around violence and evil. You know, we just

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<v Speaker 1>report every weekend or after a weekend, how many people

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<v Speaker 1>were shot in Chicago. We don't even think about it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, think of if you're the mother of

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<v Speaker 1>the father and it's your kid that got shot. You

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<v Speaker 1>have little kids getting shot. I remember the day that

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<v Speaker 1>I scrolled the names of all the people shot in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>all the people killed in Chicago on TV. Names you

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<v Speaker 1>never hear of. There's so many things that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>hear about because they just don't fit the date. We

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<v Speaker 1>have murder people have to death in France, right but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't talk about it because they're not looking at

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<v Speaker 1>band knives, they're looking at band guns. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>synagogue attacked in Germany. We're not talking about it because

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't fit a narrative. We got people being shot

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<v Speaker 1>in Kansas, but we have twenty to thirty to forty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty people being shot in Chicago every weekend. So

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<v Speaker 1>four people sign Kansas. I'm like, guys, none of this

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense the way that we're reacting anymore. Think about

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<v Speaker 1>how we we We just accept that this exists. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even go on a subway in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I always say to everybody that works for you,

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<v Speaker 1>don't take the subway. Don't take this. I say, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>pay for the car. You know what I do, take

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<v Speaker 1>the subway. I'll take the subway. You don't listen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all right. They're afraid of me. It's okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're a psycho. I mean I'm not. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in all, I got no fight just the other day

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<v Speaker 1>on this lubway. Of course, shocking, right. You know why

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<v Speaker 1>because I said to the guy who said he had

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<v Speaker 1>his phone out and he's blasts in his music, stable music.

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<v Speaker 1>You might like it. I don't people, let me finish,

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<v Speaker 1>let me finish. I have buddy, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta have phones? And he goes, yeah, I gotta

1:29:06.439 --> 1:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>have phones. I'm like, well are they because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>in your ears? He goes, you want me to put

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<v Speaker 1>him in my ears? I said, the first place I

1:29:14.479 --> 1:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>put him in. Why do you do this? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what he says to me. He goes, I'll put him in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put him in my ears if you ask me nicely.

1:29:22.200 --> 1:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I said, this is me asking you nicely. The next

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<v Speaker 1>time I ask you is when I ask God. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the car just started cheering, so he put him

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<v Speaker 1>in his ears. I don't even know how to react

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<v Speaker 1>to this. You can't react to it because you take

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<v Speaker 1>a car. I tell everybody to take a car. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>on my TV staff in particular, I've I've been. I

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that they get a per diem so they

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<v Speaker 1>can get a car. I mean, it's it's this world

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<v Speaker 1>is just full with darkness. I mean, I'm watching the

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<v Speaker 1>insanity and politically in this country a It's just man,

1:29:56.120 --> 1:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it gets some days, it just gets to you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading this, this headline, I'm looking at the China and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really we're going to bow down in silence

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<v Speaker 1>NBA players on the China issue. I know that lit

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<v Speaker 1>up Ethan earlier in this week, and I'm thinking, really,

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You can trash the president, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>trash China. Look what Ethan found earlier with this woman.

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<v Speaker 1>She's at a press conference. She's at to ask questions

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<v Speaker 1>question about it. They're trying to rip the microphone physically

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<v Speaker 1>out of her hand. She's like, excuse me, I have

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<v Speaker 1>every right to ask this question. Good thing it wasn't you,

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<v Speaker 1>because we would forget about it. I would use that

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese prison. You would have had to try to rescue her.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, So the president, the big rally

1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>he has, we're on the ground tonight in Minneapolis. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe all that has surrounded this rally. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe the mayor. Oh, if you're a copy, can't wear

1:30:49.240 --> 1:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>your uniform. Let's move to porta potties. All right. This

1:30:53.040 --> 1:30:56.479
<v Speaker 1>is a level of derangement that even I have a

1:30:56.560 --> 1:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>hard time wrapping my arms around here. All right, we

1:30:59.120 --> 1:31:01.559
<v Speaker 1>will cover the Ali. Lawrence Jones is on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll probably speak to some of the people that went

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<v Speaker 1>to the rally, depending what time the rally ends. We'll

1:31:05.520 --> 1:31:09.519
<v Speaker 1>cover it when we get on Hannity tonight. Former AG

1:31:09.800 --> 1:31:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Matt Whittaker has been phenomenal. Tom Fitten, Dan Bongino, Governor

1:31:14.680 --> 1:31:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Palin Is on tonight, Joe Conju much much more, Nine

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Hannity, Fox News. So we'll see you tonight and

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow we'll get right back to what is now the well. Russia, Russia, Russia, No, no, no, impeach, impeach, impeach,

1:31:28.280 --> 1:31:32.479
<v Speaker 1>No no no. Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine KU, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>this now has become. So I'll coming up tonight nine

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Hannity. We'll see them, We'll see you back here

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow