WEBVTT - National Guard on Subways and Other Crime Panics

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<v Speaker 1>Also media, welcome jac and appen here.

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<v Speaker 2>The podcast We're Getting Medication takes like four fucking hours

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<v Speaker 2>because of a bunch of unbelievable bureaucratic bullshit. I your

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<v Speaker 2>host Neo Wong, who was asked by by pharmacists today

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<v Speaker 2>and I quote, have you been pregnant or have there

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<v Speaker 2>been pregnancies?

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<v Speaker 1>So I like, have that being pregnancies? Yeah? That was

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<v Speaker 1>when I was like, what shooting of human life?

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<v Speaker 2>She like, she walks up to the thing, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>she she she puts the like she puts the meds

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<v Speaker 2>like like she's about to ring them up right, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she stops and then turns and walks with other person,

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<v Speaker 2>starts talking to her boss, and then comes back and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Asks me if their pregnancies. I'm like what it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not passing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just wearing I'm just wearing like jeans, like a mask.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a random coat. It is. So it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a it's been a time, yeah, achievement in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of healthcare where they can simultaneously like ask you for

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<v Speaker 1>being pregnant and then make you fucking labor unpaid for

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is that you need. Like, my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about health insurance and now we hate it. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoying it? When they're they're like, hey, we need

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor to confirm you still need to instantly? What

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck do you think has happened? You would have

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<v Speaker 1>heard about it. I didn't at home. Pancreas transplant didn't

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<v Speaker 1>bill you guys for it. You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. With with me is James who is from a

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<v Speaker 2>country that is more normal about healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the right word, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's less ship is the correct word, unless you're trans

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<v Speaker 2>in which case it's about as.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, country which

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<v Speaker 1>has a different approach at least at least like has

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<v Speaker 1>accepted the fact that if we're going to have the

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<v Speaker 1>state pay for like sending bombs to kill little children

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<v Speaker 1>in Palestine, it should also pay for my incident, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a good a good place to start.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, there's an ideal combination there. No we

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<v Speaker 1>no one has yet reached.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is this is the task of international socialism,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I will accept the necessity of the state

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<v Speaker 1>only when it funds incident, not bonds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we we are here to talk about another

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly violent state bureaucracy and the people who run it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be talking about a series of very bizarre

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<v Speaker 2>and incredibly authoritarian crackdown so that democratic well governors, city councils,

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<v Speaker 2>many many such cases, yeah, have have been have been

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<v Speaker 2>invoking two nominally cracked down on crime, a thing that

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<v Speaker 2>is down everywhere and has been down everywhere for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I in many such cases. It's great that the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat like local politicians are now doing everything that we

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<v Speaker 1>were warned that Republican president would do four years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really fun and I mean this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of these things. So the place we're going to start

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<v Speaker 2>is New York governor cultural I think houtral Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. New York keeps going through politicians faster, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can learn how to pronounce their names. So with

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<v Speaker 2>what they're gonna have, like Andrew Clobo, the fourth in power,

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<v Speaker 2>by the time this episode goes out, there'll be like

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<v Speaker 2>two There have been two new Kings of England.

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<v Speaker 1>The secret sibling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not making a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about the royal family. Nonsense, we don't care, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is the best that you're getting out

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<v Speaker 2>of that. But yeah, so Houtral has deployed seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty National guardsmen to stand outside of some subway stations.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a tone wister. Try saying that one five times

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<v Speaker 2>the beast in the mirror to like do bag checks

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<v Speaker 2>and generally just sort of stand around and be intimidating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's great. I'm sure it's what those people signed

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<v Speaker 1>up to do. I'm sure they feel fulfilled, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure everyone in New York feels safer and happier as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of random people in camouflage being standing around

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<v Speaker 1>a subway. Yeah, and we're going to get into this sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of emotional effective aspect of this, because that is ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>what this is about. But I think, okay, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sort of interesting aspects of this. So okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot of talk about what the sort

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<v Speaker 2>of precursors to this are, and I'm gonna ask you

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<v Speaker 2>about because there's a lot of national there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of very weird, absolutely dog shit National Guard deployments that

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<v Speaker 2>have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yes there are I have Yeah, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>can get onto that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think I think the most immediate predecessor

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<v Speaker 2>to this that that leaps to mind. This is on

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<v Speaker 2>thing I talk about on the show all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>because everyone else seems to have completely forgotten it. I

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<v Speaker 2>refused to let this be memory hold. Which is the

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<v Speaker 2>time that my previous shitty mayor ordered a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty, ordered a bunch This is in February

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty. This is this is pre uprising. Put just

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<v Speaker 2>started putting swat teams on subways. Oh great, They immediately

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<v Speaker 2>did the thing that swat team does, which is they

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<v Speaker 2>started putting swat teams on the fucking red line. The

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<v Speaker 2>immediately shot a guy for no reason, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>I if I'm remembering correctly, the thing that originally they

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<v Speaker 2>said it was fairrivation, And it wasn't fairrivation. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the guy walked from one train car to another train car,

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<v Speaker 2>a thing that like millions of people do every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and capital punishment for ferrivation is also wrong. I'm bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, look this guy somehow survived. They shot him back,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, they also tasted him a bunch of times

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<v Speaker 2>and then shot him, so right, good, yeah bad. However,

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<v Speaker 2>thankfully this guy survived. But yeah, but this is something

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<v Speaker 2>that that happens. This is only that you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>the current crop of right wing mayors have been doing

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the twenty twenty one end, it was

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<v Speaker 2>such a fiasco that even even like Chicago's machine well

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really quite rechea, but like even Chicago's right

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<v Speaker 2>wing Democrats were like, Okay, we probably shouldn't do this

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<v Speaker 2>lest the swat teams have their like start the killing moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, so that that's like one sort of

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<v Speaker 2>predecessor to this, And the second one is I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to actually ask you specifically about the Federal National Guard

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<v Speaker 2>deployments on the border because I think, yes, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>part of this has just been like disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. Again, those have been like completely overlooked and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of memory hold by most apparently like since since

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<v Speaker 1>Biden came to power. Like there's there's a Texas state

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<v Speaker 1>deployment right which we're very familiar with. They get cheated

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<v Speaker 1>out of their their benefits. They tend to die from

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<v Speaker 1>suicide from bringing their own firearms on deployment or getting

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<v Speaker 1>drunk and driving around. They've had like higher casualties, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've had deployments to a rock in their the Texas deployment, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the federal one is different. I see these dudes often.

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<v Speaker 1>It'sneely always dudes. Of course women could be deployed in

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<v Speaker 1>the capacity, but I haven't seen them, and they are for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, like scared kids with firearms guarding prison

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<v Speaker 1>camps full of children. Like I had one of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys go to drawers pistol on me the other day

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<v Speaker 1>because I was trying to alert him. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like I guess, like it's it better in that situation that,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not my first time having someone draw a

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<v Speaker 1>pistol on me, and I can tell them to sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and stop being a dick. But this in this

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<v Speaker 1>case where someone had was experiencing cardiac distress and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>gone to the nearest person who I can do, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can't call an ambults and having to come

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<v Speaker 1>in there. I have to go to either get BP

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<v Speaker 1>to radio or in this case National Guide. But what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing is in addition to like guarding these open

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<v Speaker 1>air attention sites on and off. Is they are conducting

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<v Speaker 1>kind of surveillance along the border. So often see them

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<v Speaker 1>with like surveillance arraysed cameras, I assume also like listening

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<v Speaker 1>to radios and stuff like that. They're not actually like

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<v Speaker 1>interdicting or resting vigrants. They're not supposed to be anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But what they's supposed to be doing is that that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of having that surveillance capacity and I guess protection

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the to the o ADS. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they are everywhere, Like I see these people all the

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<v Speaker 1>time down here in you know, certainly on their eastern

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego County border, and and they're all in rented

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles as well, which is weird that they haven't got

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<v Speaker 1>their humvees or whatever. It must be a significant expense.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously border crossings are not decreasing thanks to them

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<v Speaker 1>being there, right they you know, they mostly like cruiser.

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<v Speaker 1>I was out doing a water drop on Sunday and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see them cruising around the dirt roads and then

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<v Speaker 1>obviously people therefore just avoid the road. It doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't reduce migration like everything else. It just makes

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<v Speaker 1>it more dangerous. But yeah, they've been here for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of these things where you know they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing okay. So like the guys in New York just

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<v Speaker 2>basically seem to be standing around and doing bag checks,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas those guys are doing a lot more. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's one of the things that's been happening here

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<v Speaker 2>and this has been this is you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>not just the focus has been on on the like

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican textas deployments, right, but this is something that

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<v Speaker 2>both the Republicans and the Democrats. This is from what

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeking to ease. Yes, and the federal government have decided that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the thing that we are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>doing is what are what are and I mean active

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<v Speaker 2>militia deployments Like that's insane like that that is a

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<v Speaker 2>level of that is a level of authoritarianism. That is

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<v Speaker 2>you know that that has become effectively normal, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>there was there wasn't I mean, there was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>an outcry against the subway stuff, but like it hasn't stopped,

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<v Speaker 2>like as best I could tell, like they're still out

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, like it not that all of it stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>It that we've been you know what the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>we've been forced to accept is not even not just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because we've already been forced to accept the

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the militarization of the police, right, but now

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<v Speaker 2>it's just straight up the total militarization of society to

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<v Speaker 2>the extent that like, yeah, we just have a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of soldiers wandering around doing like random security checks and

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<v Speaker 2>doing surveillance and like holding people in these open air prisons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, and like deployed way outside their stay often, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think some of the people hear from Missouri

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<v Speaker 1>or Illinois, like some of them the less kind of

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<v Speaker 1>insane are you, You know, the people who mistake me

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<v Speaker 1>if I guess for a member of the cartel, judging

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<v Speaker 1>by that guy's actions or like some ridiculous somehow a

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<v Speaker 1>threat to him. You know that we can talk to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's it's a very bullshit mission. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think most of them would agree. Like further east, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just like standing around by the border wall and the

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<v Speaker 1>baking sun in the desert, just just yea doing security theater,

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<v Speaker 1>but with as you said, real consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's like the thing that is happening is

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<v Speaker 2>these people have realized that the National Guard, if you

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<v Speaker 2>are a senior enough state official, is just your private army.

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<v Speaker 2>You could do whatever the fuck you want with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the thing that they're doing with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you should. You know, it's worth looking

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<v Speaker 2>at what the sort of justification for this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Which are probably also I neglected to mention that there

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<v Speaker 1>are a dozen Republican governments governors who have deployed their

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<v Speaker 1>National Guard to the border, right like not as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the federal deployment, like to your private army thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe that North Dakota it's funded by a

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<v Speaker 1>private individual, Like a private individual is covering the state's

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<v Speaker 1>costs to deploy them to the border. Like this is nuts, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>fully insane, like serving as a fucking PMC.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean we're seeing, you know, very explicitly,

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing this fusion of like personal state and corporate

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<v Speaker 2>power and that's being used to just deploy a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of guys with guns to a bunch of random places.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, like it's worth mentioning that, Like crime

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<v Speaker 2>rates are down, they're down year on year, they're down,

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<v Speaker 2>like the broad trend is down. They're down, like like

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<v Speaker 2>outrageous like I think it's not like almost like fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent or something from the nineties, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And likewise, the ratio of people crossing the border

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<v Speaker 1>to agents to process and is it's much lower than

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the nineties. You know, we have more

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<v Speaker 1>border patrol agents, we have a more militarized board patrol.

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<v Speaker 1>They have all these assets that were previously seen only

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<v Speaker 1>like see a black Hawk all the fucking time. So

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<v Speaker 1>like we call it a scrap hawk. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like several several black Hawks. It's like it's not any

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<v Speaker 1>particular submodel of black Hawk. It's like the surviving pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of several black Hawks. But yeah, they have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of kit that you would think would be military kit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, so I was I so when

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<v Speaker 2>I was really good about this, I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so try how many crimes are actually happy on New

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<v Speaker 2>York subway system. But I'm going to read this paragraph

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<v Speaker 2>from Reuters because it is it is outrageous. There were

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight robberies and seventy thefts, including pickpocketing, on the

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<v Speaker 2>subway system in February, compared to forty robberies and ninety

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<v Speaker 2>eight thefts in the same month last year, according to

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<v Speaker 2>police data, there were thirty five assaults, the same number

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<v Speaker 2>as for February twenty twenty three. About ninety million trips

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<v Speaker 2>were taken on the subway over the month. Now that

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<v Speaker 2>is nuts the subway, including pickpocketing, right, you're at about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, reveal a trivial number of incidents.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety million trips, right, This means that like per trip,

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<v Speaker 2>your odds of being pickpocketed are almost literally one in

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<v Speaker 2>a million. This is this is about the same odds

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<v Speaker 2>you have of being struck by lightning. You are seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>times more likely to get killed by a b or

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<v Speaker 2>bopsting than you are like pickpock, like pickpock, not even robbed,

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<v Speaker 2>pickpocketed on the subway. Right, So there's I from what

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<v Speaker 2>I can do, I think there was three killings on

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Subway in February.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a shooting. I think today yesterday wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but this is the thing, So these things

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get a lot of attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, thirty million trips, we're talking like maybe three

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<v Speaker 2>maybe four people getting killed a month, So that's like

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<v Speaker 2>one in thirty million rides. Yeah, someone gets shot. That's

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<v Speaker 2>outrageously safe, Like that is bafflingly startlingly safe. But this,

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of brings us to Wow. Okay, the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that this immediately brings us to is an

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<v Speaker 2>ad break.

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<v Speaker 1>But it will be a second thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, great, I it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're back for the ads. We're bringing you

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<v Speaker 2>actually amazingly advertisements. Part of what part of the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing's happening here, because you know, one of the one

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<v Speaker 2>of the big drivers of what's happening in New York

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<v Speaker 2>and the reason everyone thinks the subway is unsafe is

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<v Speaker 2>New York's media market and very this is a like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so like the media market in the US

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<v Speaker 2>is not good, right, but very specifically, the New York

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<v Speaker 2>media market is absolutely batshit. They are nuts. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of these things where you know, you may

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<v Speaker 2>have like a one in thirty million chance of getting

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<v Speaker 2>killed on a subway, but every single one of those

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<v Speaker 2>thirty million like incidents, like why all those one thirty

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<v Speaker 2>million is every single one of those is like front

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<v Speaker 2>page news, right, because this is you know, this, this

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<v Speaker 2>is both part of the part of the actual sort

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<v Speaker 2>of conservative politics of these media organizations. They are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>New York media market is dominated by a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>right wing tabloids and a bunch of newspapers that are

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<v Speaker 2>normally not right wing but are. Yeah, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this sort of breathless coverage of every single time

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<v Speaker 2>one of these attacks happened. And this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that Hutu very much like literally

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<v Speaker 2>says about this. And you know, like we're at a

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<v Speaker 2>point in this sort of crime cycle where enough journalists

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<v Speaker 2>have been screamed at by people who are like the

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<v Speaker 2>crime rates are all down, that the journalists have to

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<v Speaker 2>include in the article a thing that's like the crime

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<v Speaker 2>rates are down. This took like four years of just

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<v Speaker 2>screaming at them. Eventually it worked. But you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>Kuhl's like asked about this and she goes, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's about people feeling. It's about that, like the

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that people have because they don't they don't seem

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<v Speaker 2>to this n yeah, yeah, And you know, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of these things where like this is like

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<v Speaker 2>how insane the New York media market is over this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff has had like an actual substance of political impact,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is something that you know, the Democrats embrace

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<v Speaker 2>of this sort of like, especially in New York, this

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<v Speaker 2>like tough on crime thing has gotten to the point

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<v Speaker 2>we're literally Eric Adams has to be the guy who's like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>actually hold on, like it's the New York is safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Please stop panicking. I got my bag, got.

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<v Speaker 2>My police funding already, Please stop like fleeing the city

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<v Speaker 2>in terror.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's amusing though. That's similar to what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, another city Democrat councilor mayor. Right, so we

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<v Speaker 1>have this Gloria terrible mayor, serial bullshitter, and Gloria in

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<v Speaker 1>the State of the City speech was saying we should

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<v Speaker 1>be locking up criminals, not laundry detergent. This was his

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<v Speaker 1>big line. He was very proud of I have successfully

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<v Speaker 1>purchased laundry detergent that was not incarcerated since then. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was talking about target. I guess apparently

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<v Speaker 1>he's legislating for the interest of target. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>then his opponent in the Maora race, who's a former

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<v Speaker 1>marine cop Republican guy, being like, yo, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up on our homelessness policy. We're just like criminalizing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not just the answer. And we've got Gloria

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<v Speaker 1>to being like, no, lock him up, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to push this. Is this continued, like this

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<v Speaker 1>California bill that will force incarcerate people with mental illness

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<v Speaker 1>right against their will. Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's fucking

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not bizarre because, like I think, so

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<v Speaker 1>many Democrats and like certainly publications here have really leaned

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<v Speaker 1>into like suburban grievance politics and you know, like fixed

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<v Speaker 1>the potholes and make it so I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>see poor people is their entire ideology. But it's still

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it's just kind of I don't I'm struggling

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<v Speaker 1>for the words here. It makes me really fucking pissed off.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who showed up to one or two BLM

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<v Speaker 1>marches are now out there like barking for a second

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<v Speaker 1>border wall and machine gunning the unhoused.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, and this has had a especially

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<v Speaker 2>in New York, this has had an actual This has

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<v Speaker 2>been having a substantive, like electoral impact. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>stories that kind of got buried in twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>is that you can actually if you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>electoral map in twenty twenty two, you can actually literally

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<v Speaker 2>see where the New York media market ends, because all

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<v Speaker 2>of the districts in the New York media market became

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<v Speaker 2>significantly more conservative. And this is this is and this

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<v Speaker 2>is not a joke. This is literally this whole tough

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<v Speaker 2>on crime shit is literally the thing like and in

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<v Speaker 2>this New York media market, this this is what caused

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats the House because basically everywhere else in the

0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.760
<v Speaker 2>country there was okay, so like like red districts shifted red.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single district that was contested, like all of the

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like purple blah blahh like the districts they

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<v Speaker 2>all went, they all shifted to the left because of

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<v Speaker 2>abortion stuff. But then specifically a bunch of the like

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<v Speaker 2>what are supposed to be like very safe blue districts

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<v Speaker 2>went red because they were all because all of them

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<v Speaker 2>were doing this insane tough on crime stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And those seats, like the seats they.

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<v Speaker 2>Lost in New York are the reason the Republicans have

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<v Speaker 2>control of the House. So like, you know, this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>working for them electorally, but they're still doing it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's their ideology and we're gonna get into a bit

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<v Speaker 2>more about why about that that part a second, But

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<v Speaker 2>before we do that, I want to talk about I

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<v Speaker 2>think another one of these things that has gotten kind

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<v Speaker 2>of lost in the shuffle, which is do you do

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<v Speaker 2>you do you You heard about the giant like DC crime

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<v Speaker 2>Omnibus bill.

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<v Speaker 1>About this? Yeah? Yeah, Like I will say, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with it other than like herring that it's bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So so in DC, the City Council passed this enormous

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like giant set of like omnibus set of

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<v Speaker 2>like policies are supposed to be there, like keep DC

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<v Speaker 2>safe crime omnibus thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of things to note about this. One

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's actually not as bad as it was

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<v Speaker 2>originally going to be because there was so much like uproar,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, the original one like had provisions that

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<v Speaker 2>was like banning masks at protests and ship and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like it was really bad and it got like nuked.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's still really bad, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of really weird kind of grievance stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's this provision specifically that's supposed to be about

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<v Speaker 2>like like targeting quote quote organized retail theft, which is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the insane.

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<v Speaker 1>This is yeah, this is one of the most like

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<v Speaker 1>storm in a teacups that has been going for a

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<v Speaker 1>while now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But I mean there's also kind of like there's

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<v Speaker 2>just a standard police stuff, which is it They're they're

0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:26.120
<v Speaker 2>trying to expand pre trial attention on which they did.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the the absolutely insane ones that have been

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<v Speaker 2>declared unconstitutional, but apparently they're just back now is allowing

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<v Speaker 2>police chiefs to designate certain areas quote drug free zones.

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<v Speaker 1>Where yeah see, I'm I'm I'm confused.

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<v Speaker 2>But basically what it lets it basically, what it lets

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<v Speaker 2>you do is it lets the cops just harass a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of people even more than they already do, like

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<v Speaker 2>mostly mostly what it does is just when you declare

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<v Speaker 2>one of these areas it's where all the black people are,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the cops just have cops in like an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible like incredibly increased ability to just randomly stop people

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<v Speaker 2>and search them.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and yeah, ship stop and frisk law. Yeah, there's there.

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<v Speaker 2>So there there is a thing that like part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mask provision stayed in force, which is that they're

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<v Speaker 2>making it. Basically, it's like like wearing a mask with

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<v Speaker 2>the intent to commit a crime is a crime, right,

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 2>the cops like determine, right, your intent, So like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those laws.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they do this a lot with gun laws, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they passed gun laws. It don't make anything that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>already illegal illegal. They just make it so that if

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<v Speaker 1>they if you, if you, if you're caught, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to prison for longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, this this is actually there are there are

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<v Speaker 2>provisions like that in this too. There's also a bunch

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 2>of random like gun provisions. There's all the like more

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<v Speaker 2>nuts ones, like there's there's one where cops can arrest you.

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<v Speaker 2>So if if they're trying to cite you for not

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<v Speaker 2>paying a toll, if they they they claim that you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't pay a you didn't like pay a transit fare,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to give them your full name and address

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<v Speaker 2>and if they don't, and if you don't, they can

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<v Speaker 2>arrest you.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is nuts. This is like don't disrespect me on

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<v Speaker 1>the train in front of everyone, nor, isn't it? That's

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>what that is. It gets There's another one. There's another

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<v Speaker 1>one which is like I I don't I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have another way to describe it other than this is

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<v Speaker 2>the this is the how to get Away with Murder bill,

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<v Speaker 2>which is this is so one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing is letting cops review their own helmet footage

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<v Speaker 2>before police inquiries.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, ah, this is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the get the narrative straight bill?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you also get to edit it? I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, so here's here's the thing about that quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote No, however come these things mysteriously vanish time serious?

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<v Speaker 1>He disappears.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's also like a whole thing about like there

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<v Speaker 2>are certain groups of people who the cops can just

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<v Speaker 2>like force DNA collections from.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot less broad than it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's still a provision in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Nightmare's bill that they've been able to pass. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's worth thinking about why this is actually happening,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that all of this stuff, all of these

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<v Speaker 2>are are sort of long range reaction to twenty twenty. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this, This was the sort of strategy after

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty for rebuilding legitimacy of the police, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and and also now rebuilding sort of rebuilding the

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, psychological capacity, I guess to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just deploy a bunch of troops on US soil,

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<v Speaker 2>right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sort of building up that tolerant Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, like this is all of this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is sort of born on you know, on on on

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<v Speaker 2>protest crackdowns on one of the things that's also sort

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<v Speaker 2>of worth noting about. This is all of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the DC crime build but in the works

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time. But the subway stuff is all

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that happened like pretty quickly after they air ambush

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<v Speaker 2>and all self in Malaysian. So a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>this has been the sort of the democratic ruling class

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<v Speaker 2>kind of losing their minds after watching how widespread twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty was, watching the extent to which they were forced

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<v Speaker 2>to like you know, like like there are democratic politicians

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty like talking about like I mean, there

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<v Speaker 2>are like elected people talking about defunding the police. There

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<v Speaker 2>are like they're all remember the weird like like that

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<v Speaker 2>whole like kneeling thing in Congress they all do oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The pitch of the morning Ken take with yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>ooh yeah. Powerful in sense of cringe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there's a lot of like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's just the sort of memory of that has been

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<v Speaker 2>has been sort of drilled deep into into the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what has been.

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<v Speaker 2>Happening like like you know, and that what's been happening,

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<v Speaker 2>and this has been happening in blue states very explicitly

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<v Speaker 2>is this is this strategy of hypermilitarization with the explicit

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<v Speaker 2>like not explicit, sorry, with the implicit but not very

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<v Speaker 2>well concealed goal of putting everyone back in their place

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<v Speaker 2>after twenty twenty. And that is extremely grim. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I don't know, I'm glad the DC stuff

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<v Speaker 2>isn't as bad as it was original because the original

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<v Speaker 2>one we're just like straight up a bunch of fascist shit.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also fascist shit, but like not as unhinged

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<v Speaker 2>as the original bills were. So you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>like the tide of this stuff isn't inevitable, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>also very very powerful factions of the Democratic Party have

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<v Speaker 2>decided that this is the thing that they want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and it absolutely sucks, and you know, and and and

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<v Speaker 2>and this is you know, and this is in a

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<v Speaker 2>similar way to sort of the stuff on the border

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<v Speaker 2>being bipartists. I mean, at some point I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>do an episode about the absolute shit show that's been

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<v Speaker 2>happening in Chicago where yeah, they're like a a kid

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<v Speaker 2>got fucking measles in one of these and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the micro shelters and Pilsen in Chicago, and now the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor's like evicting a bunch of a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 2>from the bigrant shelters. Jesus, you know, so like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bi I mean, this is the thing like in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's just outside of like you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>like outside of just like basically every like Walgreens or

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<v Speaker 2>just on street corners, there's a bunch of refugee families

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<v Speaker 2>like just sitting out there in the cold, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get some money because there's fucking nothing for them here.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a bipartisan you know, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is a bipartisan political project.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Of you know, just sort of terror inflicted on most

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<v Speaker 2>at people in society.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's really depressing to hear that, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, like, you know, I see people here

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<v Speaker 1>and then they get out and my friends see them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we turn into the airport and my friends feed

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>them and look after them there, and they get on

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<v Speaker 1>their planes and we hope for the best for them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then then yeah, they just go to

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<v Speaker 1>some other city where some other dog shit democrats who

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<v Speaker 1>lied four years ago is gonna do everything they can

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<v Speaker 1>to make life as hard for them as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The good thing is you have to vote for them

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<v Speaker 1>while you're voting for fascismo oray. How sad?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that that that That's what I got today. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back tomorrow with something.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we back there? Yeah, it will be a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's with tomorrow Friday. Oh yeah, tomorrow's Gaza day. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not getting anty better for you. Yeah, lucky you,

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<v Speaker 1>lucky you. Tomorrow we'll be hearing from our friends at

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<v Speaker 1>park or Gaza.

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