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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wrapper it up podcast Elliott Wilson, my name is

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Speaker 1: beat Out, beat Out, what's up baby.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling good, feeling that Janelle Mon a conversation you

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Speaker 2: like you like to miss your know on a man

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Speaker 2: lady on the podcast. Man, they say her massagynists. Man,

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Speaker 2: that's you, brother, that's you. I was good.

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Speaker 3: That was a good talk with Janelle, and I think

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Speaker 3: I might have to take her advice on going on

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Speaker 3: trips and stuff. She did mention that about Mexico and

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I did go to Mexico after

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Speaker 3: our conversation, So I'm gonna take her advice.

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Speaker 2: And she shouts us at the end.

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Speaker 1: Man, get to get our lives together, man, We got

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Speaker 1: to get our stuff again. All we do is care

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Speaker 1: about work and killing. And they're doing great podcasts. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: But you know what today is hip hop Day? Man

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Speaker 1: August eleven Foot taping this right now. This is the

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Speaker 1: actual birthday of hip hop. Man oh man, hip shout

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Speaker 1: out to hip hop. Hip hop saved our lives. Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I ask you, man, let's get up brown sugar on man,

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Speaker 1: because I actually don't even know the answer. What are

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Speaker 1: your what are your early memories of hip hop beat out, Like,

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Speaker 1: what was the what was your entry point to fall

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Speaker 2: How did you fall over with hip hop?

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Speaker 1: Beat on?

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Speaker 2: I'm the double I'm edit of a double Excel.

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Speaker 1: Shout to Sonna.

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Speaker 2: I think my earliest memory was probably like honestly MC

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Speaker 2: Hammer Crisscross, like Wow or the early nineties stuff. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: I had a Hammer doll and it came with a

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Speaker 2: tape of like to Quit. I remember seeing Hammer on

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Speaker 2: like I had just got BET, like in the late eighties,

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Speaker 2: like it took a while for us to get cable

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Speaker 1: Queens was like queism and get early days of BT,

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Speaker 1: and I remember the Let's Get It started, the original

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Speaker 1: what he did turn this But one of the early

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Speaker 1: videos he had the Troop he had the Trooper track

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Speaker 1: suit on. Yeah, and like when he came out with

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Speaker 1: the video is like a low budget video and the

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Speaker 1: way he was dancing and rapping, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like sixteen seventeen. I'm like, this is.

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Speaker 1: Like I've never seen no hip hop like this, Like

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Speaker 1: it just looked insane to me, Like he is energy

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Speaker 1: like and plus he looked like a grown ass man

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Speaker 1: he didn't looked like a kid, right, and the shit

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Speaker 1: just bugged me out. Like his guy had this energy

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Speaker 1: like hammra was like yeah, and then and then he

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Speaker 1: goes super pop with it in the nineties and like

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Speaker 1: can't touch this and that shit is like I remember

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Speaker 1: seeing people's grandma like buy that ship to Tower Records,

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, like that shit was crazy. People forget ham

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Speaker 1: I see all this ship by fit. Nobody mentions hammer.

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Speaker 1: That's a come on, man, forget your hammer. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: gotta get hammer, get hammer. We got your hammer. We

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Speaker 1: gotta get Hamm On the podcast, man fuck that. You

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Speaker 1: know he's bad. But he's from Oakland, like the white

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Speaker 1: my white dad yell. He's married to the town. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Oakley Man, you have a baby.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to make that call earlier. But also,

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Speaker 1: you know the other ones I always keep biging up

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Speaker 1: there with really changed my life is running MC. You know,

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Speaker 1: growing up in Queens. I don't think they get the

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Speaker 1: hop to the world. To me, you know what I mean, nationwide, worldwide, global,

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Speaker 1: and I think with Queens, like like I wanted to

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Speaker 1: are you when like the Lost Boys bow up or

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Speaker 1: fifty cent blows up? Like, how does that connect to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for Lost Boys.

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Speaker 3: If people don't know, Legal drug money is my personal

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Speaker 3: favorite wrap out of all time because it sounds like

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Speaker 2: It sounds like the community.

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Speaker 3: So when they were popping, it was a big deal,

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Speaker 2: They were terrorized neighborhoods. And then you at the time,

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Speaker 3: I was a teenager, like you know, thirteen fourteen, and

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Speaker 3: then when fifty seven blew up, it was like, yes,

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Speaker 2: It was so prideful because you know, Queens was dormant

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's funny you mentioned run DMC because

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Speaker 2: That was my ship. I was doing that at eleven.

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Speaker 1: I was sticking my chest out. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: love chicken and collar greens. My grandma, my grandma Lucille

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Speaker 2: Make that for me.

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Speaker 1: Nanny. She used to make me fried chicken, that's all.

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Speaker 1: She made me collar greens. What I said there with

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Speaker 1: why do you think we have such Queen's pride too?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I think we still have that chip on

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Speaker 2: The bridge is over. Queensus is a prideful place. I

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Speaker 3: A blue collar kind of burrow, you know, and we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we like, you know, the Hollow guys think they fly,

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Speaker 1: the Brooklyn guys think they're cool, and you know, we

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Speaker 2: Man, we had everything off right. DMC to fifty said

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Speaker 2: to you know, Q tip everybody, Man, I'll put our

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Speaker 2: groups of all time and pound for pound, probably the

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Speaker 2: best rapids. Okay, we'll go into that. That's a conversation

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Speaker 2: on the podcast one day, right, Hello, that'll be be there,

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Speaker 2: Yo be Meatball, He's the Elliots and Meatball.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: But you know why Jeorye this guess we had today, man,

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Speaker 2: saus Walker, gast Walker. That guy's is a great interview beat.

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Speaker 2: It's a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: He's you know, he's quietly doing his thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: But you know what's so ill about him just having

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely was. I definitely was sleeping on him too. Man,

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Speaker 1: and going back, like you said that that Ghettle Gospel.

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Speaker 1: I guess he drops him every December. Yeah, they kind

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Speaker 1: Like it's like, yo, we've been I've heard his name

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Speaker 3: And then definitely I thought it was dope how you

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Speaker 3: and yeah, he gave him the paddle of the back

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Speaker 1: Can't we keep working. But yeah, I did I didn't this.

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Speaker 1: I was a good guy. I didn't do that guy,

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Speaker 2: But nah, this is definitely a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: Man. This guy's full of personality. Man, you could have

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Speaker 2: Good hour, good solid out, good solid hour.

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Speaker 1: So man, you know how we do man, wrap it

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Speaker 1: up podcasts at the standard of these interviews, Mad the

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Speaker 2: That's right, give to so man be and the joy Man.

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Speaker 3: Or the rap raid on podcasts, Rap raid on podcasts, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Podcasts, Elie Wilson. It was to beat out. You know

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Speaker 1: what's up? Mad? He got the Sauceman. Long time coming away, Man,

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Speaker 1: I think it was something Debbie daff had me out there.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, so we met

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a science behind the madness. It's a

434
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 1: structure in a red print behind everything that I do

435
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 1: and the experiences that I've been through in life and

436
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: the things that I've seen have downloaded in my brain

437
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 1: in such a way that I can always regurgitate or

438
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 1: reenact or rewrite these experiences or things that I've seen

439
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 1: somebody else go through, or just pain that I feel

440
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 1: or lost that I felt, or it's loss that I've

441
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: seen other people go through, because you know, it's a

442
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 1: difference between struggling and then actually like losing people that

443
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 1: you love or losing a child or something like that.

444
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: That's a different level than just struggle. You know what

445
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can struggle your whole life, but struggle

446
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,479
Speaker 1: with the people that you love, and you still got

447
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 1: to make good memories and build a stronger bun. But

448
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: you still got through your whole life with your mother,

449
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 1: your father, your sisters and brothers. You got people that

450
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: have to witness their mothers and fathers die in their arms,

451
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: and things like that that I've experienced. So like me

452
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: being on face time with my little brother go Hun

453
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 1: while my mam and Daddy his ouns, while she's on

454
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: a way to drive to Houston to come to move

455
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: Tohty with me, while my little brother go Hun gotta

456
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 1: FaceTime me my mama, dad and his owne crime bullets

457
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 1: coming out. You know, like we've seen this. I've seen

458
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: so much in life to where I feel like a

459
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: duty or a job, or like I feel a responsibility

460
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: to use my knowledge and my experience and my platform

461
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: to give some type of guidance or some type of

462
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 1: soothing or healing, or just even if I could provide

463
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: someone's skill set and information to just make them a

464
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: better person, to make them better prepared for some of

465
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: the things that happened to me unexpectedly that I just

466
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: have to deal with. I'll be hoping that my music

467
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: can help them through that at times, because I know

468
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: that's what it's done for me. But at the same time,

469
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't like to get too make sad music so much,

470
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: to make heartfelt music so much that I get taking

471
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: out the space of being an entertainer and taking out

472
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: the space of being a you know, a hit making

473
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: artists or exciting or artists or artists that people may

474
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: listen to in the club or just you know, to

475
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: feel good and have fun. So sometimes I have to

476
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: do be my other self and you know, be obnoxious

477
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: and be crazy or just exciting, and because that's still

478
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: me too, And the things that I wrap about on

479
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: the other side of my artistry is like also things

480
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: that I've been through that made me who I am,

481
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, made me have more money,

482
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: made me more successful, made me up a something perspective

483
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: towards relationships with women or just life in general. I

484
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't change my style or my build up and my

485
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: makeup for nothing. I feel like it made me the

486
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: warrior and the super saying that I am in a

487
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: rap gang. That's why I've been able to be in

488
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: a rap gang for ten years independently, and I'm still relevant.

489
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm still a talk of the industry at all times.

490
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm still frequently listening to Spotify members stay in the

491
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: millions like yeah, you know, but if you're sitting here

492
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: with La it will say, yeah, this is all of

493
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: the breaks and something about the dangerous Dreger and like

494
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: the energy around you right now, it just feels like

495
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: you're about to take it to another level. Do you

496
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: feel that? Yeah, because I'm finally acting like a rapping

497
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: not just the unest to god truth. I yeah, don't.

498
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: I usually don't really act like a rapper, like I wrap,

499
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: but I'm like everybody, anybody that knows me and follows me,

500
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's over everything. I'm a hustler, I'm an entrepreneur.

501
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: I've been rapping for so long. It's such a high

502
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: level and especially in a competitive level, but also again

503
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: retaining the purpose in the the the game playing to

504
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: never signed into a major record like where it's just

505
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: been my personal desire just want to just break them

506
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: out and do something different. But I also understand the

507
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: disposition that it always put me into. So you know

508
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying for some artists, For certain people, it

509
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: makes sense for them to sign the major RECORDA was

510
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: a major dis to get to where they're going faster album,

511
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: chasing something different. But with understanding the handicap that I

512
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: that I've taken. You gotta understand that I've been rapping

513
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: for so long with the understanding of knowing I'm going

514
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 1: to be successful regardless if I take the I wouldn't

515
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: say it's the easier route being signed, but rather I

516
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: take the professional route or I take the independent route.

517
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to be successful, So now I

518
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: have to pick what styles and reps and what genres

519
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 1: I want to I would like myself to follow up

520
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: under between this five year spind and then the next

521
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: five year spind. Then that's my first decade. Now I'm

522
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: moving to my next decade, and then each each different

523
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: artists a different chapter of my artistry that I allow

524
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: people to fall in love with. That's a different generation

525
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: of people that's gonna support and they might grow up

526
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: and mature too, and now they want to hear the

527
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: get up gospel. Now they didn't been through some things

528
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: in life to what they wouldn't understand because a lot

529
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: of people that first got on Saucewapper from the OUI

530
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: and the drip and the you know, the pimp rap

531
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: and the sauce and all of it, they only know

532
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: me from when they was in high school in middle school,

533
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: and then they went to collage and went through whatever,

534
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: and then they stopped listening to the Saftwappers. Other things

535
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: came in their life, but then they come back to

536
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: Suthwalla ghettos. So I would say more that it's like

537
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: I strategically knew when it was time to pull that out,

538
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: to put to pull their style of rap out and

539
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: get the bigger audience or get the audience that the

540
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: true hip hop heads that really respect the art form

541
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 1: and the difficulty and the skill set of having lyricism,

542
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: being a storyteller, and being able to spread a missage

543
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: that's actually like, has substance to it and meaning to

544
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: it that people can live on with. I always say

545
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: I try to make timeless music instead of hit music.

546
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: But I still can't make hit records. I was known

547
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: for making hit records and regional hit records and like

548
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: just blowing up off in the viral moments of music

549
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: before I started doing all the crazy into and just

550
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: exploring the Internet when I realized, oh, it's really easy

551
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: to make money off Instagram, Like this is like a

552
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: Instagram pays, It's like a black card. Once I just

553
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: kind of realized that, I kind of diversified my hustle

554
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: to like, Okay, I'm doing the drip wrap. I'm rapping

555
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: and the world instead in my style, and I'm having this.

556
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: It's an incredible influence, but I don't want to I

557
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: don't want to break my original game plan and go

558
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: sign and a record deal to feel like I got

559
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: to compete. So now I gotta find other ways to

560
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: make even more money, even though I was already making

561
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: a lot of money from rapping and shows and features

562
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But at the end of the day,

563
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: it's just like a college basketball player. You play college,

564
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: you get past a certain level, you go to the

565
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen or whatever that shit is final for you

566
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: try to win. If you don't win. Now, the next

567
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: thing to do is to go get your major contract

568
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: and onter you get your first rookie contract and you

569
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: passed it, then you go re up for the big

570
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: con trick. It's a little different in the music industry.

571
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: If you don't have a catalog in place, and now

572
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: that you can't, you have nothing to fall back on

573
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: without their catalog in place. It's like now you have kids,

574
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: have the opportunity now, but it's called ir L or

575
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: whatever that you can make you a couple million dollars

576
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: to be sitting on before you can go to the

577
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: actual league and make more millions. And it's kind of

578
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: the same thing if you're able to. Most people are

579
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: able to generate your ketll out to make money. I

580
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: always made your catalog to make money, so it's like

581
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: I just knew it was just it was the time

582
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: to switch over to a different style or rep there's

583
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: still me because originally I always I rap to get

584
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: a gospel style. And the struggle and the pain and

585
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: the countryness that was way before the soft ship, like

586
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: the south ship came after. When I started living like that,

587
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: when that happened to my life in real life, I

588
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: got out of jail, women start spoiling me. I just

589
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: start getting out of the women spoiling me. There, I

590
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: start spoiling me and ship I following my leadership, my

591
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: life changed. So it's like, I don't want to rap

592
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: it by sayd sh and struggling and pay them up.

593
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: But there will be a time to use that again.

594
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just put that to keep that in

595
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: my rappertoire I keep that in the Yeah, why does

596
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: it be come of staples like December to drop that

597
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: ghetto gospel series? And like, what does that symbolize to you?

598
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: That's serious? I mean it symbolizes so many different things.

599
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: One of the main things that it symbolizes that I

600
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: wanted the best rappers to ever live. Like lyrically, I'm

601
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: arguably one of the best people to put stories together.

602
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: And this is not my opinion. This has been the

603
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: opinion of greats and people that passed. I didn't how

604
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: many people you get to get jay Z the likes

605
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: of the jay Z's and DJ premieres and the Darings

606
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: and Swiss Beats with beats on stage. Man, I'm busting

607
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: around his kids to a bust around some on the

608
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: favorite rappers. That's like for other things that really made

609
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: me me bus arounds relationship so strong is because his

610
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: kids put him on me and like had him listening

611
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: to me for like months and months and years like

612
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: this this this dude, I was walking like that, you

613
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: gotta get on him, get on him, like he's the truth.

614
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: He he's special artist. He just he that whatever for bussers.

615
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: Like man, this little dude, this little nigga around me

616
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: and me like they see the wild the way I

617
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: asked and you know what I'm saying, just the clothes,

618
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: the colors, the videos. He was just mine about it

619
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: by like damn, this little dude from Houston. But he

620
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: really got balls and he really got lygs. But he crazy.

621
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: He not afraid to be hisself. But like, damn, I

622
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: need to meet them type shit. So when I was

623
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: in New York and then it was right too. I

624
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: actually had met bus Arounds some years before that, and

625
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: uh and like I forget who video should it was,

626
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: But he had taught me then that he had been

627
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: seeing me and he was like he was giving me

628
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: my credit in the salute the ship this white Back

629
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: then we had took a picture that one of the

630
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: first ur pictures they went all on my Instagram. Bus

631
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: Runs had a big ass dragon pinky ring with a

632
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: dragon part with a green emlind and I had a

633
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: big diamond pink splash earring, I mean a pinky ring.

634
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: We took a picture with our fingers locked and it

635
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: was like some he was like he was saying he

636
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: was passing the torch to me back then before I

637
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: even achieved something and the ship that I So he

638
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: really didn't like following my career for years, but his sons,

639
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: who really like salid Us, flied the relationship like this

640
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: is our favorite rapper, Like you need to you need

641
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: to get around him like this who we think the

642
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: best rap out of everybody, Like he can rap like this,

643
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: but then when he can graub like this and get

644
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: on these balls and he can hit you with this

645
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: and it's steel balls and the list. So when I

646
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: met him, like it was like a uh. It was

647
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: a heartfelt moment for him because it was like my

648
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: relationship with his sons through music brought him and his

649
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: sons closer together because that was something that they could

650
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: always come to the type and talk to, talk about

651
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: and relate to. And like he just tell me that

652
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: it was something big in they family sutwalking like they

653
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: related on a big note on it. So it was

654
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: like I met his sons like on the phones and stuff.

655
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: And in New York again at the BT Awards, I

656
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: got to meet the whole family and everything. It was

657
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: a big surreal Mama, because we had all been talking

658
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: for like a bout two years now, have a lung

659
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: has been since our first post, the stuff we was

660
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: out in the studio recording the records and stuff, and

661
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: Bussa just gave me a lot of game and a

662
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: lot of knowledge and a lot of honor. And he

663
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: really be on me like a father figure too though,

664
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Like he really be like telling me citing shit about

665
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: how I need to be professional, answer the phone or

666
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, carry myself a certain type

667
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: of way around people. It's just like he always got

668
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: nothing but positive, king empowering energy to get me. But again,

669
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: that's another one of the greats and one of the

670
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: icons who look at me as like one of the

671
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: best lyricists out right now and they understand, and the

672
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: ones who tell me like, boy, you know, if you

673
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: would have been signed the did you would have did

674
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: this a boy. You know if you would have no boy,

675
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, it feels

676
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: the same as getting a Grammy nominational award for a

677
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: Swiss Beast or jay Z or you know these are

678
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: the again, these are even a Wu Tang Clanrialza, those

679
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: face ray Kun, all of them people love me, Yeah,

680
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: like them niggas love me. I got pictures with all

681
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: of them on Instagram. They'd be sending me my favorite

682
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: sending me like verses I said, and like these dudes

683
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: like love me for real, like see me in the mob,

684
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: be super excited, like sending the jewelis to go to

685
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: like you know, Ray going being Dada's like he got

686
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: family out there.

687
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: It's crazy, like ghetto gospel three man, I can't from

688
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: I think the industry slept on that because it's incredible.

689
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: Thanks a really good, strong project.

690
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: And like the storytelling is amazing, Like where did that

691
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: come from?

692
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Like was that always part of you?

693
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 3: Awesome that you were you influenced by certain rappers were

694
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: like great storytellers.

695
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: To be honest, I was influenced by DJ Screw more

696
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: than anything. But like the first music video I've ever seen,

697
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: like for number one. I'm coming like a rap prodigy,

698
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a rap fema. As far as like

699
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: the skill set in the process, in the build up

700
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: of being a rapper, I've done it my entire life,

701
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: like I've always practiced and perfected the skill set of

702
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: delivering lyrics. I recorded my first song in the studio

703
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: when I was six years old, nineteen ninety six. The

704
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: first time I the first time I stood in the

705
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: studio with a real microphone and put the real headphones

706
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: on my head over my head, and they closed the

707
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: book about six years old WO making types. But then

708
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: they used to call them freestyle types, like screw tapes,

709
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: like a DJ screwtape. Yeah, you know, so like that

710
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: was like that's how cultures like with you know, screw go.

711
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: He'll make us a cassette type for like fifteen of

712
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: the hottest beats in the hottest songs that's out slowing down,

713
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: chop them up. But sometimes it would just be a

714
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: tape of beats and then you a freestyle over those.

715
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: We said, you can go to a a screw a

716
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: studio and like influenced by screw and they'll make one

717
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: for you to the like replicated. So I used to

718
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: go to the studio call Diamond Cut Studios in King's

719
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Fleetmarking in Houston is like a legend. They fleetmarking on

720
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: the south side of Houston. It's a DJ and that

721
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: DJ uh wiz Kid. DJ wiz Kid. He used to

722
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: like make me like a five six beats. I used

723
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: maybe like Missie the hot boy. So you know what

724
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Then I go in there young and rap men,

725
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: camera men with Vian's diamonds on my head, mant the

726
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: girl dens I'm in California, but they feel like friends.

727
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: He install being and I'm the mother fucking man some

728
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: shing like that. Yeah, Like you see how I just

729
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: point he got on being like taking the moment and

730
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: then making it a song. Like that's really hard to do.

731
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: That's complex to do. I've been doing it my whole

732
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: life since I was a little boy, so from recording

733
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: freestyle tapes and from six seven, eight nineteen. Even though

734
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: no matter whatever I went through in life, I was

735
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: always like found my way to a studio because I

736
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: had the exceptional level of tenant where people wanted me

737
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: to be in that studio like a kid they can

738
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: rap and they're exciting and shit like that, and I

739
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: would buy like carry up for machines and practice. And

740
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: then I started writing reps around probably when I was

741
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: like nine ten, and then I stopped writing at fifteen.

742
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: I haven't wrote a rep since I was fifteen years old.

743
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: I hate righting now. It's like it's kind of like

744
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: a kid that's been playing football or boxing since they

745
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: was three years old. Pop Warner Pa or whatever, Paba

746
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: boxing and Silver Good go to Good Recent Regional all

747
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: the way to the Olympics. Like I'm doing battle rap

748
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: like whatever style and form of rapping, I went through

749
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: it because it's something that I always wanted to do,

750
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: is rapping, no matter whatever else I did in life

751
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: with the game banging, boxing, video games, being a nerd

752
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 1: like I've always been in like anime, superheroes and all

753
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: that other shit like, but I always rapped. I never

754
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: wanted to be a basketball player, football player. I'm not

755
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: wanting them rappers. They be like, oh man, you know,

756
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I never wanted to be a rapper. I was just

757
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: in the trap one day and my boys, bro, you

758
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: need to go ahead rap, bro, think you kill that? No,

759
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: that was never me. I was always the pretty boy,

760
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: beating niggas up, fighting and battle, rapping, rapping and clothes

761
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: the center of attention in every high school, middle school,

762
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: whatever I went to as I was skinny, I always

763
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: been in boyd in my whole life matter whatever struggers

764
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I went through, I always been him and I always rapped.

765
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: So I always loved hip hop and like the power

766
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: that it has and the way that music teaches people.

767
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: You know, ninety percent of the things that you learned

768
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: in life, or ninety percent of the information that you

769
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: downloaded your brain is given to you through music. You

770
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: not your abcs through what music A B, C, D

771
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: E G. Un like that through music, united timetables. Through music,

772
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: you buy our advertisement and things to commercials. Jingles have

773
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,479
Speaker 1: songs with them. Every Apple, everything has a sales piece

774
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: to a B. I loving it like every to. Music

775
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: is like the It's the communication to the soul and

776
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: like the tank recorder to the brain. It's the easiest

777
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: way for the brain to retain information is to put

778
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: it in the song, put it in the melody. And

779
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: I kind of understand that young is the key. How

780
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: did you get to be that point? How did you

781
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: get good at painting? Pictures and really storytelling aspect of it.

782
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: When do you think you got shot with that in

783
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: the process. I think I've always been able to do that.

784
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, because I always being good at rapping.

785
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: So when it like again, I probably started writing raps

786
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: when I was like nine, I've always wrote complex raps though.

787
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: My mom is. My mom's a drug addic and a

788
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: strengthen of heroin and crack cocaine, dance strip clus. My

789
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: father is a struggling athlete and working nine to five

790
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: jobs whole life while chasing his athletic dream, trying to

791
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 1: be a football store or a wrestler, whatever creative idea

792
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: came to his mind. My whole other family, all my

793
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: other external family is dead drug addicts. I never met

794
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: him before. I'm an only child, Like I went through shit. Yeah,

795
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: there's somebody. How is it? Like? How can I not

796
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: tell you about it? How can I not put this

797
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: in a in a diary form? It's okay, It's like that.

798
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: It's like a person that's keeping a die. It's like

799
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: a girl that wroughte a diary a whole life of

800
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: all her bullshit and sad emotionals. If I'm not no bitch.

801
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm a nigga, I'm a gangst I'm a mean I'm

802
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: a young boy going through my life. But I'm writing

803
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: raps and poems and poetries. Is about to the point

804
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: to where my fingers hurt. I don't want to write

805
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: about this shit no more. It's polluting my brain. It's

806
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: to the point of where I'm writing so much of

807
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: my experiences and things that I see going on, the

808
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: police brutality, my father paying child support for me while

809
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: I lived with my dad my whole life. I was

810
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: raised with him, but he was paying child support on me.

811
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: This should ain't made sense. I paid off my own

812
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: child support when I was twenty. When I was about

813
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: twenty five years old, I finished off my own child

814
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: support for my dad to him to get out of debt. Wow,

815
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: I had to pay nineteen thousand dollars in a four

816
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: thousand dollars little lawyer fee to pay the debt that

817
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: my dad owe to the government for my child support

818
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: for me. So like I've been through again. Shit that

819
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: even if I was a movie writer, if I wrote scripts,

820
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: if I wrote dialogue for film, I just have the

821
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 1: brain and the capacity to just create stories and situations

822
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: and explaining in depth because I went through so much

823
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: and seen from seeing it personally, and my brain was

824
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: already the type of brain that has a huge photographic

825
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: memory and a type of brain to download the situation,

826
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: to remember every single detail of it and then close

827
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: my eyes and then it just comestantly planning to open

828
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: over my head to or when I write a song,

829
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: even if I'm not gonna even if I'm freestyle and writing,

830
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: if I'm not gonna say exactly how that happened, I'm

831
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: gonna create a scenario in a movie, a situation to

832
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: where you can vividly see, just like the author writing

833
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: the book, he's gonna he's not gonna just say, uh,

834
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: it was raining outside and my shade was with you know,

835
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: the author's gonna say the cold, the cold chill of

836
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: the wind blowing across my whiskers as the rain drops

837
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: fell upon the side of my neck, to my Yeah,

838
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: it's with the type of trauma and bullshit a nigga seen,

839
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: and then I'm trying to wrap about it and make

840
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: you feel what I feel. I can't give you a

841
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: water down version. I can't give you an undetailed version.

842
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: For you to see what I'm trying to make you see.

843
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: So and that's just a skill set and the tenant

844
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: that I've always had, and I know when it's time

845
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: to use it and when it's time to exploit it.

846
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: And I know it's one of the things that make

847
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: me better than other artists. It's my attention to detail

848
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: or the type of metaphors and punchlines that I'm able

849
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: to put together while still having a deep storyline or

850
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 1: a plot twist. It got you with a cliff hanger,

851
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: like the greatest movie that you're watching, but I still

852
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: gave you a punchline to make you say oh while

853
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: you hang it on the cliff for the next moment.

854
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: I just I always looked at everything as a science.

855
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't know this. Maybe that's why my dad named

856
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: me is. Maybe that's why my name is Albut I've

857
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: always looked at things things like from an Einstein perspectively,

858
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: no matter how crazy and wild and the Nazis I am,

859
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm a genius at the same time. So porm poetry

860
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: a depth meaning substance in my even when I wrapping

861
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: about the other shit, the dripping and assumption and the

862
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: oh I'm doing all that. If you actually listen to

863
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: the words that I'm saying, it's just it's a story

864
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: there too. You can close your eyes and see everything

865
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm seeing in that too. But this, the get up

866
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: gospel shit is more relatable to people around the world.

867
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: More people have been through struggles or witness other struggles,

868
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: or some people are just fascinated by the struggle because

869
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: they never went through it themselves. Even if it's not relatable,

870
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: sometimes humbling for people to hear, or sometimes it is

871
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: a warning for people through music. A lot of people

872
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: make a lot of their life decisions out of the

873
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: music that they listen to.

874
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: Like these treaties serve like as a cautionary tail slash

875
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: state of affairs kind of record that men know his shiit.

876
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: We listen to the music. I'm popular. I'm making grown

877
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: man music. Please don't get it Instagram and YouTube. Our

878
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: music is growing. It's real.

879
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: Like you had one line that took out we said,

880
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: low dumb ass niggas on these pills leaning ain't never

881
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 3: learned no trades, but they specialized in red beaming.

882
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: We're killing our own We're killing our own race, nigga.

883
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: These queens need seeing man listen talk about creations. Could

884
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: have just said you just say, these girls need to

885
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: get fucked. Could have been there right.

886
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: Now.

887
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: We're killing our own kings, were killing our own kings,

888
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: and our kings are men, and and the kings that

889
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: we have that are men that are losing their lives

890
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: because of the brutality and the murders and the things

891
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: that we're doing to ourselves. It's taking our own flesh

892
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: out of the earth. So we're not it's seamen, but

893
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: it's also men that these women need, these queens need

894
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: seamen underneath the kings to come from the sea's been

895
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: giving that seamen, plant that seed. You know what I'm saying,

896
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: because we came from foreign seas. You know what I'm saying.

897
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: It's my punch, not gaving like four five levels level

898
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: if you level to it, it's that it's the first

899
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: base level of police black coming, black people dying. The

900
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: queens need seeming. And then you break it down to

901
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: our queens and us being kings come from overseas, and

902
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: these queens that are losing the kings and dying, we

903
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: provide the seamen to them because with men of the

904
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: seeds from Africa that came up, you know what I'm saying,

905
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: But we're going to in differently.

906
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: We gotta go there, what I'm saying.

907
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: But for the you know it's there if you wouldn't

908
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: have looked past that. They say, never judge a book

909
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: by its cover, if you wouldn't have looked past covered,

910
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: My brother, it's there for you. But if you want

911
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: to keep it, ignt we can keep it. You know

912
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's that simple. It's a variety, it's

913
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: a choice. When did you come up with the UI

914
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: and when you know it was gonna be a signature

915
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: kind of piping made me say that the ism gave

916
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: me the uila dripping. That's that like again out the

917
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: whole saft shit that me and my shout out to

918
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: my twins, such a saucge, like the whole sauce thing

919
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: came from me making that transition once I got out

920
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: of gym from like okay, because again, like I said,

921
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: I was a phenom and rapping in my city. I've

922
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: always been like popular. I've always been known for better rapping, rapping,

923
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: freestyle competitions, whatever, just making dropping song, selling CDs. I

924
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: did every process of being a rapper. I did it.

925
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, so boom. When I

926
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: was like fifteen sixteen, I was doing Man Small Mob Stars.

927
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: It was like a big old it's a big heisting you.

928
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: A click coach is big and Houston front number one

929
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: before game banging, I really took over the city. It

930
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: was click culture and click culture and game banging merged

931
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: in Houston basically, and what click coach is, which is

932
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: in a lot of other cities or like, it's the

933
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: same difference to somebody making the thing own rep like

934
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: with your own group, and then you have a fee.

935
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: He's sixty individuals that give that loyalty to that group

936
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: and they go push that push their brand in the city,

937
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: in the streets or whatever, young and be fighting the

938
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: territory whatever come with it. So I had one of

939
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: the biggest cliques in Houston history is massed. My mass

940
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: Stars is some shit that me and all my brothers

941
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: created together and we was a part of and the like,

942
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: it's unarguably like one of the biggest cliques in Houston

943
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: cultural period ever, Like it's known, nobody would deny it,

944
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. So what that Ben said,

945
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: I was like one of the faith one of the

946
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: faces in forefront of that. And it's a bunch of

947
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: other lesson there clicks as well from back then, and

948
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: we would all be like some of us was in

949
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: the lines with each other. Some of us will bump hisads.

950
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: But during that time, I was one of the only

951
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: kids out of all of these cliques that had so

952
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: much notoriety in the city that was rapping a lot

953
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: and known for rapping. So when I went to jail

954
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: from you know, exciting situations that happened doing that, I

955
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: caught in case of shootouts with the jail. Was out

956
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: on the news to trade as shit is just bush

957
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: it shit that went on in my life backed in

958
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: over over being a part of that. I got out

959
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: of jail and I made my mind it was like

960
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: me really my twin was one of the main ones

961
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: that was on that ship. Like Bro, we passed that

962
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: ship like Nigga, we starts like the whole city. No

963
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: is like you would have been on the news, you'd

964
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: been on CNN, it would have been all over the world.

965
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna use that to go back in the streets

966
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: and do more of than thomb man. She's like Bro,

967
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: you need to wrap. It's like you hear them like

968
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: we was a dripping dude we were doing because right

969
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: before that, it's when like boom were like women start

970
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: changing my life a little bit, like making me see

971
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: life different and like not being so caught up in

972
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: the violence and the glory of violence. You know what

973
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I started getting caught up in the glory

974
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: of drinksing good and going to the strip club and

975
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: women admiring me, And that's when the salt started to

976
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: be created. That's when the hui's and that shit, because

977
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: the flavor hit me. Now, we used to go to

978
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: the strip club to look to and defend the niggas

979
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: in the club with the same hoodie on with the

980
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: words on the mession and yeah, we're the tough guys

981
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: a Playoffs song, We're gonna beat up the d J.

982
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: But then it became being a fly dudes in the

983
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: club and the strip of that getting the money from

984
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: the people in the tough throwing the money to them.

985
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: They trying to give the money to me to go

986
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: home with me.

987
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: You say, you've been count bitch money since he was

988
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 3: seventeund seventeen.

989
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: I'm just told you this headed what I like? You said,

990
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: I can't make this ship up just to get them

991
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: for my boys. We're to a regular club sation. You

992
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: could have caught me down, man, I can said, yeah,

993
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: when I was twelve. I'm telling when I was about

994
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen, going to jail twenty okay, now this type

995
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: of shit going on, I guess it came and go

996
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: to jail. I'll go to jail for like three years,

997
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: joje o for you forty one years though? Absolutely he did.

998
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had an insighting rider

999
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: insight and the ride organized crime, incriminativity and saw with

1000
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: the daily weapon saying another charge. It was some other charges,

1001
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: but it was a shooting that happened there. Track at

1002
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: TSU and try the truth and then that he'd be

1003
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: doing that a trader. Oh you got to trade that, yeah,

1004
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: to try that. I was invited to the trader again.

1005
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, I was famed. I was becoming famous

1006
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: back then, and it was like through two thousand and

1007
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: nine or something, I think it's two thousand and nine,

1008
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, thousand nine. I was invited to

1009
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: perform and you know, long story short, you know, people

1010
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: tried to put the bean, the people that I was

1011
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: with and dangers, so I had to look at myself

1012
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: and it just it went the way it went. I

1013
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: ended up going. A lot of people got shot that day.

1014
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: I went to jail for that shit, and we all went,

1015
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: a lot of us went to jail. Was all on

1016
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: the news. It was like the third or fourth time

1017
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: I've been on the news. So it's like I've been

1018
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: playing with my life too much. And I made it

1019
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: through that situation by the grace of God aggress of

1020
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: the universe. Like I made it through that. I still

1021
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: have to go to jail, but I still got my

1022
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: freedom back. Like that was something to what I could

1023
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: have been. Went to jail for forty years, fifty years,

1024
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: thirty years, twenty years easily because the platform it was,

1025
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: it was a high profile case, it was on the

1026
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: school campus. It was a random people that that had

1027
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it that got hurt, you know

1028
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it wasn't it wasn't my doing,

1029
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because you know, motherfuckers just

1030
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing. So it was just wild.

1031
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: But you had compressed people out there. She Lejectionally, it

1032
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: was all type of you know what I'm saying. It

1033
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: was a big ideal so for me that it caused

1034
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: a big, big, big uproard conversation in Houston outside of

1035
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: all this stuff that we was already known for. So

1036
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: like it was a blessing for me to get out

1037
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: of jail and my brother be like leave that shit,

1038
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: let that shit go, bro, Like yeah, like we did that,

1039
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Like we survived it. Now we're finna fuck it. They

1040
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: don't want to agree with us and to do what

1041
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: we're doing. Fucking we're gonna drift this out. We're gonna

1042
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: beat the chibbattle Boys. But just before the Sauce came,

1043
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: the first name we came up outside of Managemall massts

1044
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: with the Chibbottle Boys. We started making money. We start

1045
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: having bread, and we was always like the type of

1046
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: people that like men make up our own lingo to

1047
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: go with the lifestyle that we was living. So we

1048
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: always wanted to talk different from Houston. Houston is mister South.

1049
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: We popped ship. We talked different. So we was Chabbati boy.

1050
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: We got the bread, We got the letters to bread.

1051
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: Just before the sauce hit, we got the letters to brand.

1052
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: We got the lettuce and chins and toast the bottom,

1053
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: me and my brother. You know what I'm saying. You

1054
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Hey man, you need to choose

1055
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: up with Gavati boys. They got a lot of toys

1056
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: and bring you a lot of joy. You know what

1057
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's how we used to be. That's how

1058
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: we used to pop in women and stuff like you

1059
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, try to get their numbers or whatever. Uh.

1060
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: Eventually it led to us saying sauce because like one

1061
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: of the girls that like contested, it's like going back

1062
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: and forth with us, like she was a nigga, like

1063
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: she was a pr there, so like she was poppular

1064
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: to us. And in the midst of that, we start

1065
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: saying sauce. After the sauce came to ooh we because

1066
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: when we got the sauce. Now now we changed our

1067
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: actual names because my original rap name wasn't Sauce. My

1068
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: original rap name was Aywalk. You know what I'm saying,

1069
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: A Skywalker from Mashmo. My Twins Central History name was Bully,

1070
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: Mike Dial a Bully, you know what I'm saying. That

1071
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: was his original rap name. So like when the Sauce

1072
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: hit us after Chabatta boys, like we was calling each

1073
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: other boys. We ain't had no new rap name. So

1074
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: that a sausig s Walker. I ain't taking a walk

1075
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: off my name. That's in my real name, Elba Walker's.

1076
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: I ain't taking a walk off my name. I'm soft Walkers. Okay,

1077
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 1: you what your name is gonna be? I'm Saucy Sauce.

1078
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: I'm saucy Nigga. It's ten years ago. We in the

1079
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: hotel room with folk white girls trying to figure it

1080
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: out for real, like it's some crazy shit we was living.

1081
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: He's like he had a missing good at the time.

1082
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: Used to call him sancho.

1083
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 4: They said. The Spanish meaning of the sancho is like

1084
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 4: the extra man looks see she laughing came said, do

1085
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: you know something Spanish thing? It's a non Spanish thing.

1086
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: And to call the man it's always with multiple women,

1087
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: the sancho or the man that your wife is cheating

1088
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: on you with. He's a son chok. So like that's

1089
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: what they would call my brother Sancho. Were like, and yourinka, Well,

1090
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: what's gonna be our group name? The Sauce Twins. Now

1091
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: we become the Sauce Twins and you know it just

1092
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: it hit from there. So as we're recording, my old

1093
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: friends from nashmau will still be around me in the

1094
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: studio while I was recording, and I would like experiment

1095
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: with new ad libs. Oh way, Trip Splash Trees are

1096
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: just saying, wow, I'm just because I'm feeling it. You

1097
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: just finished it the type of way when beautiful women

1098
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: is adoing you and putting lotion on your skin and

1099
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: we're drying you off and your music is going well,

1100
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: You're going to the strip clubs, they're playing my song.

1101
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm feeling different. I don't want to rap about guns.

1102
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to wrap about beefing with this, you

1103
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's one of the beautiful things

1104
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: about me and my rap cord when I came out

1105
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: in Houston is like I brought something completely different, even

1106
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: though I still was representing the streets and I still

1107
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: brought that into my music. But the majority of my

1108
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: music music was about having fun, making money, party and

1109
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: being around beautiful women, being empowered in your your confidence.

1110
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: And so when I first said ooh we in the studio,

1111
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: all my patterns looked at me like I was blamed,

1112
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: like I was crazy or something. But you're cheaping Maro.

1113
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: What en you sound like Rick James and or something? Man?

1114
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: What that mean bout? I don't know this. It sounded

1115
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: out every artist. I'm thinking, like every rapper I they

1116
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: and live especially you know, Jesus. This is in that era.

1117
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: This is years ago. I've been around game for teen years,

1118
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: so that's when I'm putting it together. This is two

1119
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: thousand and nine eight. This is fourteen, fifteen years ago,

1120
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: Rick Washston, Jesus and them boys. I think I'm bigger

1121
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: me huh livery po fuck you know, Jesus, I needed

1122
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: me one, hey, I need mean us sad town of

1123
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: I I saw it. I was going through my sound

1124
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: files head. You know, something just made me say.

1125
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 2: And I to be real.

1126
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: The first time I said it wasn't even a loud one.

1127
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: The first time I see it was the Oi Oi.

1128
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: I was like playing with it, trying to see yeah,

1129
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: because I was saying drip drippings flash came before we

1130
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: me saying like dripping sauce and I'm dripping the sauce.

1131
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: And then I was younger then too soon around in

1132
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: time like again, I was trying to get off of

1133
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: the lyricism, off of the bars, doing the bar so much,

1134
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: so I was singing the studio back then, like we

1135
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: would use auto tune. I really, I've always hated auto tune,

1136
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: like my whole artistry. But my brother loved autotune. He

1137
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: loved singing. So Sancho make me sing and like we

1138
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: would go good on the auto tune sometimes. So I

1139
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: experiment with it, and then anything I say in the booth,

1140
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm finna go say it in real life. So now

1141
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: when I go out to the club or when I

1142
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: go around women or something, this my new. Hey, when

1143
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: you're going man, get about from heels and jumping these

1144
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: hot winds. So we could play the three years Elf better.

1145
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't get attraction like Michael Jackson. Boy, we're just

1146
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 1: doing our what because that's the name of the game.

1147
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: It's to make the chess player get out of the

1148
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: position for the game. You know what I'm saying. If

1149
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: I make you grind you in, if I can make

1150
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: you turn your head, and that's bad. That's just what

1151
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: my goal was. So the ooh, we just it worked

1152
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: so well. It was such an attention grabber and you

1153
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: know how people say, if you don't got to hate us,

1154
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: then you ain't doing something right now. Oh yeah, we

1155
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: know about that. So for me to hear that from people,

1156
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: that from brothers and people that I love, when I know, like,

1157
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: I wrap way better than y'all. I know for a

1158
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: fact that some of y'all have learned how to rap

1159
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: better from rapping with me because I've been I've always

1160
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: been the one in my group to be like a rapper.

1161
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: We need to go do a photo shooting, or we

1162
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: need to go get the album covering. Man, we need

1163
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: to upload on YouTube. I've been on YouTube since twenty fourteen. Bro.

1164
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: Now you can go on your lawn time right now

1165
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: and look up a wap Sau's walking on YouTube. I

1166
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: been doing this for not two thousand. Whenever this shit

1167
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: first came out, fourteen fifteen whatever what it was. The

1168
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: fourteen was the thirteen twelve when YouTube where first came out,

1169
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: I was on them. YouTube is abound, like maybe two

1170
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: thousand and six, maybe, okay, well two thousand and six

1171
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: with this what it was, I was on them. I

1172
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: was on there two thousand and six thousand, folks. Whenever

1173
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: it was same time, they was cranky this same time

1174
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: they was, I was on YouTube, my Space. I was there.

1175
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Put it up right now, it's gonna say seventeen years

1176
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, whatever it is. I was there. I

1177
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: already knew that doing videos and concerts, and I was

1178
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: I've been again. I've been performing on stages since I

1179
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: was I don't know, living twelve. I've been recording so

1180
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: I was six. So I always understand. I hated that,

1181
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: like listen, We're not gonna record music just for us

1182
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: to listen to it like friends partners. That's lame. I'm

1183
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: not Finna. I'm not finna sit up here and we

1184
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: just record music and we just all right around listening

1185
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: to ourselves all day. So it was like I always

1186
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: had a different expert opinion about music. And I was

1187
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: the first one to get on the radio. I always had.

1188
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: By the time I started saying ooh week, I had

1189
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: already been on the radio in Houston already. I had been.

1190
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: I had been on a Swish house mixtape, Up and

1191
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: Smoke with DJ Michael Watson is a song called h

1192
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: Time a blow Drum Each time blow drow something Me

1193
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: and Biretta Black Uh one of them old school switch

1194
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: outs in tape, Michael Watson's trying to sign me. Michael

1195
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: Watson trying to sign me since I was like fifteen

1196
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: years old. Sixteen years old, salute Michael five thousand whiles.

1197
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: So I love him to death. He's like one of

1198
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: those people that I give honor and credit to the

1199
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: helping my career as me growing up, Like he's always

1200
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: supported my career. But yeah, like I've always been one

1201
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: of those fetums and music. So when my friends is

1202
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: telling me, like, b that shit week, that shit suck,

1203
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, huh, all hatinghim, but I don't give it. Damn.

1204
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: I love you to death. You hating Like I know

1205
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: this is gonna work. I know this is good. You

1206
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: cannot tell me that it's not gonna work. And that's

1207
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: just like one of the moments where I went through

1208
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: life well, like I started to ha started to have

1209
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: a separation because of great and it's like you can't

1210
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: take everybody with you, or you're gonna go to a

1211
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: different level of platform. Everybody can't go with you, and

1212
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: it's crazy. That's something as simple and smallest my ant

1213
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: lis and my rap style and the way I changed

1214
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 1: from just being a being a gangster, the street gang

1215
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: banger rapper or just having that for son and that

1216
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: image and that that mentality twenty four hours a day

1217
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: to to the to the dripping and the sauce. And

1218
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: some of my real friends didn't want to be around

1219
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: that shit, like me and my tween me and such

1220
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: over there y'all on the diffici it bro y'all tribute

1221
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: ain't doing it like woo. But I became a millionaire.

1222
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: I became a Houston right. It was right about a

1223
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: rap style of Houston. It didn't exist about a genre

1224
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: to genre of music to the South, the South, the drip,

1225
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: the pipping, the flavor of this, you know that the

1226
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: sauce and these the drip raps, drip hop sa you

1227
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: talk about to the game you spoke about like sometimes

1228
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: people take the influence from Houston but don't embraced the

1229
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: Houston artists or nothing. And also the challenges of being

1230
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: the Houston artists to kind of break national right, to

1231
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: get out of just being successful in the local music.

1232
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: Can you speak to that and the challenges you face.

1233
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: You know, we just don't have the same platforms and

1234
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: we don't have the same offices available. We don't have

1235
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: big corporate Rencord Labels just right down street in downtown Houston.

1236
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: That's going to provide you with finances, or it's going

1237
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: to provide you with record label services, or certain events,

1238
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: certain festivals, the Roland loves the a lot of losers,

1239
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: the you know whatever. Just you know. That's why it

1240
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: was such a rare opportunity and expanis for me to

1241
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: meet you so prematurely in my career, because you gotta

1242
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: think you like a me throwing that to people. Elliant

1243
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: Wilson never see you, They'll never see you in the

1244
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: in real life. It's an extra human being. When I

1245
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: met you years ago and more than ten years ago

1246
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: at the beginning and beginning of my career. So it's

1247
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: like it was certain things like that. They always let

1248
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: me know I was special because I could get through

1249
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: I was I've always had the ability to get through

1250
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: certain doors. When you had that little fragment of opportunity,

1251
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: it's sposed to do it. But that's the problem for

1252
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: people in Houston that we ought, especially before my coming.

1253
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: Now that you have something to go, yeah, of course,

1254
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: I justly look how many people got deals now, Look

1255
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 1: at people got opportunities? Now, how you know what I'm saying.

1256
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: You know, I think I was the first person in

1257
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: jay Z offered opportunity to in Houston to be a

1258
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: part of our nation again. Jay Z changed my life,

1259
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: helped my career, did something for me. There's a direction

1260
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: changing and an innovation of my career, undeniably him putting

1261
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: me on that that the title, right, So that just

1262
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: that achievement amongst all the other things that I did

1263
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: for the music industry, for the Houston and the Texas industry,

1264
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: and then also knowing that too, I put the entire

1265
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: Texas on my back. So it's like all the Dallas

1266
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: artists under Dallas DJs, Houston dj As soon as I

1267
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: got light, I took that light to everybody. I started

1268
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: making songs with everybody. I start, you know, I'm doing

1269
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: blogs with everybody to say cheese, TV's and all these

1270
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: different platforms. Like I took my power and I splitted

1271
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: around to everybody. So you have to understand before that,

1272
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: what could we do. We didn't have a say Cheese,

1273
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 1: we didn't have a shun Cotton, we didn't have south

1274
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: By Southwest was brand new. And not only south By

1275
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: South being brand new, it wasn't it wasn't even in

1276
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: this powerful state to where it can help the Texas artists.

1277
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: If anything, it was more or less helping the bigger

1278
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: artists that was cooking like you. I think that what

1279
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: made south By South well Southwest the year that Kanye

1280
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: West and jay Z and all those people came. That

1281
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: shit was way way a long time ago. That ain't

1282
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: It's not what's happening now. Now's the thing for new artists.

1283
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: So again, it was so hard to be from Houston

1284
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: and blow up and have the opportunity if you're not

1285
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: going to get on a plane and travel to somewhere else.

1286
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: And also without the Internet being involved. The Internet has

1287
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: become so powerful now, so prominent, to where the instant

1288
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: gratification has allowed record labels and companies to find investing,

1289
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: interesting people and reach out to them. Instagram and Twitter

1290
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: wasn't is I don't know what's to work to use

1291
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: for it. It just wasn't. It didn't have the same

1292
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: capability of bridging the gap between celebrities or up and

1293
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: coming celebrities and record labels because everybody wasn't so open

1294
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: to the engagement and the conversation there first. Because things

1295
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: you're different, you remember how Instagram used to be. So

1296
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: with that being said, Houston just was one of those

1297
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: places that we've always had the talent, we've always had

1298
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: the market, we've always had the rich culture and creativity

1299
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: being created there, but we never had a DJ called

1300
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: or you know whoever to come to our city and

1301
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: actually work with artists and work with producers and work

1302
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: with people in the city to whether for when the

1303
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: platinum record is made or a huge music video is done,

1304
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: or a company such as Buffalo Wild Wing, Sprite or

1305
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: Target or whatever wants to do a commercial or advertisement

1306
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: roll out behind these three artists in this particular ad

1307
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: that we're doing behind this song. Houston missed those opportunities

1308
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: until the likes of soft Walker and Travis Scott, like

1309
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: until we kind of like push that door down, like

1310
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: from different spectrums though, but still for the satile. Yeah,

1311
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: different styles of perspecially, but just opening up those same

1312
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: type of doors where people feel comfortable or feel like okay.

1313
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: It is a lot of opportunity that I missing out

1314
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: on for not going to Houston and going to tests

1315
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: and seeing the new talent and seeing the new artists

1316
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: and then people put us in certain boxes as well

1317
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: that we can only make a certain type of music.

1318
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: So that was another thing that while I said again

1319
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: it was so big for me to come and introduce

1320
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: certain level of lyricism, certain style of lyricism, different subject matters,

1321
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: different substance, different complexity, but at the same time make

1322
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: exciting music in fun music and music that has replay

1323
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: value that people that's between the ages of fifteen to

1324
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: twenty one want to listen to. Because if you don't

1325
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: have the youth, you don't have nothing anyway, because when

1326
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: you have the youth, the youth will grow up and

1327
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: mature and still listen to music that they felt was

1328
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: timeless and as they get into their adult form and

1329
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: one listen to that style of music. So I feel like,

1330
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, and then we never had a bunch of big,

1331
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: big record litis that's just right there in the middle

1332
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: of the city that's like hometown record But you know,

1333
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: we have our few that do what they done, and

1334
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: salute to those recodlables that have done what they've done

1335
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: for the city. But you know what I mean, it

1336
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: just wasn't an ample a lot. But if you didn't

1337
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: go through you know the few ones that there is.

1338
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: The Raphalize the Switcher house. They go dead after that.

1339
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It wasn't that many directions

1340
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: people have that's right here in your backyard to say,

1341
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: you know what, you got great talent. I'm finna take

1342
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: you to one on six and Park tomorrow. We never

1343
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: had that right. But if you're from Atlanta, you're from

1344
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: New York, you're from the West Coast. No matter how

1345
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: much they may personally complain, they have that along with

1346
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: the hometown spirit support. That's a whole nother playing field.

1347
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: The radio support that these other regions have, Texans doesn't

1348
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: have it. Our radio and our majority of the DJ system,

1349
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: how it's rant, is not hometown push is more or

1350
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: less corporate. You know what I'm saying. They're gonna pay

1351
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: a lot of out of town music, or they're gonna

1352
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: play whatever the record labels or the radio the radio operators,

1353
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: the people that like send music around, they play with

1354
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: syndicated with' sent to them. They don't play what's hot

1355
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: and what they have to discover what's the hottest thing

1356
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: in the club, or even if it's not the hottest

1357
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: thing in the club. You're a DJ that's from this

1358
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: citing from this state, the hometown pride in you to

1359
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: want to see your city, your sound, your culture hit

1360
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: the main stage and have a fighting chance to compete.

1361
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: Just like sports. You it's you have a responsibility and

1362
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: the duty to do that. And Texans, those people this

1363
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: powering intentions prior to how it is maybe now, and

1364
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: we still deal with that a little bit. They wasn't

1365
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: doing it. New York is gonna make sure you know

1366
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: about being mom. We're gonna make sure you know about

1367
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: being moms. Ice Pikes. We're gonna make sure you know

1368
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: about ice Pikes. Same thing with the West Coast. But

1369
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: we're working on it in tations. It's getting better. We

1370
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: know about you and those Brazilda guys from New York.

1371
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 1: Man and my boys, why you work so well with

1372
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: Grizilda talk to them? Yeah, man, I love them dudes.

1373
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: Man for sure to shout out to my boy west Side.

1374
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: Then you know the whole Gazelda family. You know what

1375
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, My boy, come wait, my brother, come wait,

1376
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: my brother from another real dude, real solid general. The Robot,

1377
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: they called him a machine. I called him a robot.

1378
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I like that super bean

1379
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: right there. You know what I'm saying. Being in the butcher,

1380
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys over there, man, you know

1381
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: they kind of like a You're like an honor remember, yeah. Yeah,

1382
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: And it's the same difference with them to me, you

1383
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They kind of like a New

1384
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: York East Coast TSL to a certain extent, and we

1385
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: like a down South Griselda to a certain extent. What's

1386
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: your self stant for the Sauce family, the Sauce Famelia,

1387
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: Texas shit forever, the season and federation, you know what

1388
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He got multiple, multiple reasons, multiple definitions for TSL.

1389
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: But you know it's the saut familia, you know what

1390
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Texas boys. But outside of that, uh, west

1391
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: Side really respect my lyricism and my style with like

1392
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: clothes and art jewelry, and I have the same respect

1393
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: for him, you know what I'm saying. And I got

1394
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: put onto him through one of my good friends from

1395
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: like back then, from my my first clickof telling you

1396
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: about mash Mama, my boy T Steaks Free T Steaks

1397
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: you spell me and he put me out west Side Gun.

1398
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, you need to listen to this.

1399
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: The west Side Gun like, he got balls and he's

1400
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: different like you like, and they got a cool like

1401
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: you need to get on them, So I'm checking them out.

1402
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: I started listening to him, and instantly I fell in

1403
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: love with the music because again, before I ever heard

1404
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: Westside Gunner them Ghetto Gospel, we already on ghetto Gospel too,

1405
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And outside of the Ghetto

1406
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 1: Gospel series, I've also already dropped the New South City series,

1407
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: so I already have a huge established fan base of

1408
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: rapping on simple beats and making classic verses to simples.

1409
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: So at the time that I felt that I was

1410
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: doing it in the South, it definitely wasn't big where

1411
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm at and what people doing in there. So and

1412
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: then also in New York, me just leaving New York

1413
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: and making a New South City album, the first one.

1414
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the emergence of drill rap and how everybody's

1415
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: converting to drill drill, drill, drill, drill. To all the

1416
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: New York artists I was running into at the time,

1417
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: the people that I'm hearing from the East Coast are

1418
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: drill rappers, to the point where I even made a

1419
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 1: drill CD in honor and respect of because like I

1420
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: went there originally to do a New York traditional style album,

1421
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: which is new soauth City, and that's what I did.

1422
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: But after me saying like just the gravitational pool on

1423
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: the drill shit, you feel me and all the young

1424
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: people that I'm meeting in New York, all the drilling

1425
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: and love the drill music, It's like damn they and

1426
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: they pushing it beat something like like you're killing something.

1427
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: I end up doing it. But it made me realize, like, Okay, damn,

1428
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: like lyricism or just straight balls or wrapping off a

1429
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: simple beast, is finna be a lost art for him,

1430
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: even up town because of how much the influences of

1431
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: selling the records and making big moments, like how the

1432
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: South is doing with hit records. So when I finally

1433
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: discovered Gazelda, it was like a breath of fresh ass,

1434
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: Like damn, it's a new Jady Kid, It's a new Fabulous,

1435
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: It's a new like I can really appreciate hip hop again,

1436
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: but be a fan of what's going on right now.

1437
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: They're not talking about some old school shit that I

1438
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: can't relate to. They're talking about things that's happening right

1439
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: now that we're going through right now. But they got

1440
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 1: the lyrics so as I and then another big things.

1441
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, the screw culture, the screw shit

1442
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: is big to us. So any music that I like

1443
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: and fall in love with, I'm gonna get it slowed up,

1444
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: even if I'm gonna look forward to already be on

1445
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: the internet slowed up. I'm gonna go go to DJA

1446
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: that I personally rock out with, and I'm gonna have

1447
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: them slow to music. So I start getting the West

1448
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: Side music and stuff slowed up. And after I got

1449
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: to slow it up, now I'm really a fan of

1450
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: it and I'm really getting to the beasts of it,

1451
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: I end up West Side reached out to me to

1452
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: do a song. So now I did the first song

1453
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: we did, the Houston Versus Rocket song. Right because I

1454
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: start liking bro pictures and now I like y'all alive.

1455
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: I'm just liking the picture. Hit me like, bro, Yo, sauce,

1456
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: you been a gold How fuck with you? Yo? You man?

1457
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: Bro Man. I love your calls. I'm gonna come to

1458
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: Houston head. I'm getting drink from Johnny Dan. You gotta

1459
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: pull up and the love which is organic. So it's

1460
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: like I met up with him at the mill. We

1461
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: were chilling ball and talking about whatever. So Boom, I

1462
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: do the Houston Rocket song for He sent me the

1463
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: Houston Rockets Versus Rockets, Houston versus Lakers song boone that

1464
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: we dropped the song of Got Crazy people love Me

1465
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: and he he opened up another another door for me

1466
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: in the in the lyrical space and then the true

1467
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: hip hop spect because they got a different fan based

1468
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: that's a whole different type of coke band based as well,

1469
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: and it expands to overseas, so I'm getting all these

1470
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: different people that it's just like so amazed by the

1471
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: complexity and the lyricism of my verse and the things

1472
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: that I was seeing. It just it just created a

1473
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: whole new fan basing, a whole new feeling on the internet.

1474
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: You know, everything that happened in music to go to

1475
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: the internet, and that's where they arguing and disputed and

1476
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: enjoy it. So it's all on Twitter. It's all tea

1477
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: sent from Gazilla, south Walking Gazilla. So now that I'm

1478
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: listening to the songs and screwing them up. I had

1479
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: a favorite song of their that was called RP Bobby

1480
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: and that's Westside Gun and Comeway and I just loved

1481
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: this beat. The beat was just so beautiful to me,

1482
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: like the sample that was on it, and I used

1483
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: to listen to it in one of my drop top

1484
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: sixty five kept La beans Is on Swing because I

1485
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: used to every time I drove that car, I would

1486
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,560
Speaker 1: have to let the top down and ride to that

1487
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: song slow throughout the city, to the point to where

1488
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not gonna just keep listening to this beat,

1489
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: I gotta rap on it. So I rapped on their beat.

1490
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: I found dat darring beat is what created this relation

1491
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: lad up to that. I wrapped on the beat and

1492
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: I shot the video to it, and I changed and

1493
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: tied them from RP Bobby to RP Buddy. So I

1494
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: released the song on World Star Hip Hop. It's probably

1495
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: one of my last videos. I dropped on West Hip

1496
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: Hoop on YouTube. It shot got like five million views

1497
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: or something, but when it first came out, it had

1498
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: like two or three views, and Alchemist reached out to me.

1499
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: Not damn. Alchemist reached out to me and he was like, Yo, bro,

1500
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: youre incredible. We love you like we listened to your music.

1501
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: All the time. That beat that you up th on

1502
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: is like my predecessor, Like that's my that's my little

1503
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: brother Danjel, Like I really want to see y'all work

1504
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: together and me, you gonna work together too, like man,

1505
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: whenever you're in LA or New York, pat out to me.

1506
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: So the relationship just kept going from their point to

1507
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: where I can't working with West hand up being on

1508
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 1: another West album. He put me on two different albums.

1509
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: So I got blessed. I'm on another album again and

1510
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: it was a big, big thing. I did another incredible

1511
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: verse to where now they invited me to perform on

1512
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 1: one of their tours in New York. So I flew

1513
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: out the New York. I did it to us stay

1514
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: sick with him, Stove God and Conway and again. Now

1515
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean a whole bunch of other New York letters

1516
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: that I respect them and they artistry. So now I

1517
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: mean the Lord Banks and I'm getting out and I'm like,

1518
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: bro you Lloyd Banks. I was in middle schools Banks

1519
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: yeay yo in there and Jay the kids you know,

1520
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: Jim Jones has been my brother, like Jim may know

1521
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 1: them being my boys. They been rocking out with me

1522
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: and some other ship pushed the music though, like them,

1523
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: like people that always like give me knowledge, game and flowers,

1524
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: or have my back when I'm in New York, make

1525
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: sure I'm around the right company, or you know what

1526
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, make sure I'm good whatever where I'm at,

1527
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: just telling me who to be with or who not

1528
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: to do whatever, Like then my boys, I always like

1529
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: to beyond music and with music. Some of them other

1530
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: people that I was meeting at night, was like you

1531
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was It was just like

1532
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: again humbling for these people to know me and know

1533
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: my songs, like by detail. Oh you did this one

1534
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: verse or that one Brandan had a baby song that

1535
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: was crazy. How you flipped the Tupac woo so uh

1536
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: Afamist walk up to me, Alchemist walk up to me

1537
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: like Yo, this Awce is me. I'm a whole ship.

1538
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: He's like, first thing I'm asking, like, man, when we

1539
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: gonna get some work in this little album? I do

1540
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: album over there, Like man, we're gonna do an album,

1541
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: trust me like I want to do abb me me

1542
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 1: extra bod saying, Earl Sweatshirt, you Earl switshaped favorite rapper.

1543
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: This is what this what Apple is telling me, and

1544
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: I end up meeting Swashing afterwards. What they're like, Yeah,

1545
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: you a sweatshat favorite rapper, Like we listen to you

1546
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: every day at the study that wool, but the way

1547
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: you and Dan just sound together like we just stuck

1548
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: on it, Like, so please give me an album of that,

1549
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: and then after you give me an album, it's yeah,

1550
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: me and You're gonna do a whole album. I sing

1551
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: you a beat song right now, but like you like

1552
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: that song that you did because the song did well

1553
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: the one I did and like that again. I also

1554
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: brought a whole nother crowd to them. I bought a

1555
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: whole nother fan based and concentergs like they did to me.

1556
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: I brought the same thing to them and especially the

1557
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: producers as well, because any video that I shoot getting

1558
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 1: means abused, but this particular one did really well. So

1559
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: they're like, man, and I dropped another song after that

1560
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: talk without you, rapping about my mom, and uh uh.

1561
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: Alchemist was like, man, that's that's our favorite song right

1562
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: now without you, and we was thinking about making a

1563
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: beat similar to that, and we want you to rap

1564
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: on me and him made it together. So then I

1565
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm gonna do the album for you.

1566
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: So he introduced me to Danger. Then just set up

1567
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: a studio session that night and they played me the

1568
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: beat that they had like put together for me to

1569
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: wrap on. I did it, and then from there it was,

1570
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was all she wrote. I

1571
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: got in the studio with him for like a week

1572
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: and a half straight after they recorded the whole album.

1573
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: Start putting different people in that that wrapped out with me.

1574
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: That showed me a little bust A Ronds. I pulled

1575
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: them in, pulled jad in, pulled in uh my boy,

1576
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: hell real from dip say, I'm I'm a huge dip

1577
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: set fan, Like that's like a part of my top five.

1578
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: I have to have a top five, Like I tried

1579
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: to put the whole grouping in it if I could.

1580
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: I'm a huge dip set fan, like I'm a huge

1581
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: scow to click fan, and being from Texas, like groups

1582
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: and clicks is like a big thing to us. So

1583
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: I always under think, but yeah, that's kind of like

1584
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: that should be the next project. What's up with that's

1585
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: my next project? After the project, I'm finna drop right

1586
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: now that that boy, then that boy then that's my

1587
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: next appum right now. Something for the summer. Something for

1588
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, the girls, the fellas, the people that center

1589
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: club people just having fun, people just getting money, the hustlers,

1590
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: you know, the ratchet females, you know, for the youth,

1591
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: some fun. You know, it's a lot of it's a

1592
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: lot of women empowerming and music right now. So I

1593
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: want to give a little bit of power, a little

1594
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: power back to the fellows, but also crowning the women

1595
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: and you know, giving them they they they like for

1596
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: having the hold on men that they have right now.

1597
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: Like I think it's funny. I like it. I like

1598
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: how women is like, you know, putting their foot on

1599
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: dudes next time. Yeah, they should that what they get.

1600
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: I don't get another ghetto gospel for this year. It's

1601
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: the Symber y'all. Probably won't get the get up Gospel

1602
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: photo this year, but you probably get maybe the Swiss

1603
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: Beasts album at the end of the year, hopefully. But

1604
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: the Danger album, the Danger album is for sure right now.

1605
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: It's that boy. Then my next album is the album

1606
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: with Me and Danger, and it's like really critically acclaimed.

1607
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: The fans been begging for that for years. I'm trying

1608
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 1: to get the hold up out of that. A lot

1609
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: of the music that I'm releasing right now outside of

1610
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: the that boy, then it's like two three years old,

1611
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: two years old. I just been making like time this

1612
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 1: music to where they don't care because of the message

1613
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: that's in it. But you wouldn't think that there was

1614
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: two three years old. Yeah. See, you see what I'm saying.

1615
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But a lot of that

1616
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: lyrical stuff that I have, I've been sitting on them

1617
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,839
Speaker 1: for a year and two years. Like even a dangerous

1618
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: danger song, remember the freestyle where I was having a

1619
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: front of maybag? How many years ago did that come out?

1620
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: Right on the block form lot right? That was at

1621
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: least two years ago? Name I recorded at least a

1622
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: four years before that. Wow. So yeah, but you know,

1623
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: with greatness, they will have patience, just like just like

1624
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 1: it's the perfect time you finally under wrapperate our podcast. Yeah,

1625
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: they have a super stim moment. Man, you're not doing

1626
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: right off ten years later a gator, y'all gone like

1627
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 1: a weight. Now later we gotta do a fusion there

1628
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: you go? You know about God, this is gonna be

1629
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: incredible audio experience. Man, You know what I'm saying, a

1630
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: lot of people don't make it right here till the

1631
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: sunrise and see the beautiful California skyes upon their eyes

1632
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: and had these men's rides. You know what I'm saying.

1633
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 1: If they wraps and things like that, you speel me.

1634
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. I'm humbled. I'm I'm glad to

1635
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: be here because a lot of people thought I wasn't

1636
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna make it. I'm glad you made it through. So

1637
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 1: shall Yeah TSLF venting. That's what it is. Got from

1638
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: Louisvaiton doll Man. Yeah, man, you know the title. Yeah,

1639
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, you salute the Kanye, But he's moved on

1640
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: to win, you know. He he's got a different things

1641
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: going on. He got a lot done that. I think

1642
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: you get your Easy one, two, three, four, five, fifteen

1643
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: season Easy. So you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna

1644
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: do it for the LVS. You know, I like the

1645
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 1: Louis Vaton. It's one of those brands that I feel

1646
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: has a staple in the fashion industry that's not gonna

1647
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: be watered down. It's never gonna go nowhere. That pieces

1648
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: are pieces that whole value, retain value for years to come.

1649
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: They don't decrease, they go up, especially if you buy

1650
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: the more exotic ones. And they work with people about

1651
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: culture directly that that people of our culture have direct influence,

1652
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: in direct hands on to the fabrics. Well who they

1653
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: know is their biggest consumer, and in regardless of having

1654
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: all the other consumers, they understand that what hip hop is.

1655
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: And I think it's just always a good thing for

1656
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: brands and companies so big, they have so much power

1657
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: and so much influence to appreciate hip hop and the

1658
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: people that's in hip hop. So whenever I see that,

1659
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: I get a little bit more respect and love for

1660
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 1: the brand. But I always like Louis Laton. Anyway, people

1661
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: noticed I can win anything and make it look good.

1662
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: I could wear merch merch merchandise, and somebody closed the

1663
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 1: line that they started from the ground up and make

1664
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: it look like Louis like I just did the other

1665
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: day on their freestyle with Meek Mills. Shout Miller g Herbo, Right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1666
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: I was wearing twenty eight, twenty eight right there. That

1667
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: was some Texans clothes looking like it was Louis Baton.

1668
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was that was a great moment right

1669
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: there with Meek Mills and them freestyl and putting on

1670
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: for the Great State of Texas at the Gilly Fish

1671
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: shot out to Gilly Gilly, my man. You know what

1672
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Why the family? But my label man tself business,

1673
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: and I got a big record label that I started

1674
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: from the ground up. I got about fifty artists on

1675
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: my record label, all running through my Dishol Distro. Got

1676
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: Paso Paste Hardest s al A Sauce Wood winning, Uh

1677
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,919
Speaker 1: feel for a JP Bucci p Sauce Go hun from Chicago.

1678
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: It's my my blood relative, my my mom's brother's son.

1679
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: He's an emerging super store. I got a lot of

1680
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: got a lot of good attraction going for itself. I

1681
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: got so many artists on my recorde. But my brother

1682
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: Sosa Man, Sancho, Saucy, You're just doing a lot of

1683
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: good stuff. I'm trying to build the next WHO team.

1684
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to build the next empire, you know, and

1685
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: just be successful, make great music, make great memories, and

1686
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: just teach what I can when I can, but at

1687
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: the same time, not be too serious about it. I

1688
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 1: feel like two people too serious about this year. Sometimes,

1689
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's definitely business and something to be

1690
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 1: taken serious, but it's also something meant to be enjoyed.

1691
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: Do you like having fun with it? We enjoyed this definitely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: you got to know I'm on the Elliot Wilson Show

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Speaker 1: We not. You know what I'm saying. We not. You

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Speaker 1: to Devin Haney. You know what I'm saying. Raodcast.

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Speaker 2: Rapp Raator is an Interval Presents original production from hyper House,

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Speaker 2: produced by Laura Wasser, host and producers Elliott Wilson and

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Speaker 2: Brian B. Dot Miller from Interval Presents Executive producers Alan

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Speaker 2: Coy and Jake Kleinberg, Executive producer Paul Rosenberg.

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Speaker 3: Editing is sound designed by Dylan Alexander Freeman, recording engineer

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Ogletree.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Charlotte Dickens, Tammy Kim and Jasmine Sanchez, Operations.

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Speaker 3: Lead Sarah You, Business develop Lead Cheffie Allen Swig, and

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Speaker 3: Marketing Lead Samara Still. Make sure to follow a rapparator

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