1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Piketon Massacre, a production of iHeartRadio and 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Katie Studios. Somebody pretty important in Ohio once asked me 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: why I was so vested and interested in this case 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: and in sex trafficking. I had to be honest with 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: myself and I had to say when I first heard it, 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: I didn't believe it. I didn't think it was widespread. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: And ever since then it's been like, these women aren't 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: lying and they deserve all of our attention. This is 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: the Pikedon Massacre. Returned to Pike County season two, Episode nine, 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: twenty five miles South, Part two. I'm Courtney Armstrong, a 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: television producer at Katie Studios with Stephanie Lydecker and Jeff Shane. 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Throughout the series, we've examined abuses of power by authorities 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: in Ohio, from law enforcement officials to city councilmen. Investigative 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: reporter James Pilcher drew a through line in the cases 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: of Pike County, Share of Charlie, reader Michael Moran, and 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: the corruption that has infiltrated the Southern Ohio criminal justice system. 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Why do I think this is happening in these kinds 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: of counties? So much. Either Hey, you had ineffectual or 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: corrupt or both law enforcement, right, you had a community 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: or a culture of lawlessness that has descended on upon 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: many places in rural America. And I think that's one 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: of the reasons nobody's watching. Nobody cares to watch, not 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: to enhance or blow up importance of journalists, but if 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: you don't have some kind of watchdog or somebody holding 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: officials accountable, it doesn't always work well. In twenty seventeen, 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: reporter Nicki Blankenship uncovered in affidavit filed by the Drug 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Enforcement Agency. The document detailed an FBI investigation into a Portsmouth, 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: Ohio lawyer and former city councilman named Michael Moran. It's 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: content supported stories Nikki had long heard from area women 30 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: who claimed that Moran was involved in sex trafficking and prostitution. 31 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: It should be noted that Michael Moran has strongly denied 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: the allegations. So when I got this affidavit, I immediately 33 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: took it to my publisher, my editor, and they want 34 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: to prove that it was real, it was authentic, and 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: all of this was real, And so I contacted our 36 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: private investigators that I knew had them look into the document. Further, 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: I called people in court systems that I knew and 38 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: had them looking into it. I verified it over and 39 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: over and over, and ultimately they said that no, we're 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: not going to publish. I gave my letter of resignation 41 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: that day and I said ethical differences and I left. 42 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: During the course of her reporting on sex trafficking in 43 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: southern Ohio, the issue had become personal for Nicki. She 44 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: often spoke with the families of Portsmouth women that had 45 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: fallen into prostitution and others whose family members had gone 46 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: missing or been murdered. After her resignation, NICKI had a 47 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: crucial decision to make. I had made a promise to 48 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: the families. I'm tearing up a little bit, but I 49 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: promised these families, and I shouldn't have, as a journalists, 50 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: promised them, but I did. I promised them that I 51 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: was going to scream until someone listened. And so when 52 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: I felt like I was just repeatedly being shut down, 53 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: I felt very helpless. I had to do something. I 54 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: had to put it out there some way, and social 55 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: media's last way. I knew, even if only local families 56 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: were able to see that, I thought it might help 57 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: them in some way and give them something. And as 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: a local journalists, a lot of people locally were on 59 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: my Facebook page. So I went ahead and I published it, 60 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: and I went to sleep. When I woke up the 61 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: next morning, I had hundreds, probably thousands of lights on 62 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: that post already and undreds, if not thousands of shares 63 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: and messages from everyone. But it carna went crazier than 64 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I expected it too. When you saw the Dai David, 65 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: what ran through your head? I was not a bit stunned, 66 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: And people they want me to be stunned, but I wasn't. 67 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: That's Katie Lancaster speaking with producer Chris Graves. Katie's best 68 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: friend and sister in law, Megan Lancaster, went missing in 69 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Katie alleges that Megan worked for Michael Moran 70 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: as a prostitute. Moran denies these allegations. What went through 71 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: my head is, oh, my gosh, like I'm not the 72 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: only one that sees this, you know, like the FBI 73 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: sees it. Like it was just so just a sense 74 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: of relief. News of the Affidavid spread. It soon caught 75 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: the attention of Cincinnati Enquirer investigative editor Bob Strictly, who 76 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: had once worked for the newspaper the Portsmith Daily Times. 77 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: I initially was a sports editor in Portsmouth and was 78 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: elevated to managing editor, and during my time there there 79 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: were always these rumors about Michael Moran and the women 80 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: that he was around and the circles he ran in, 81 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: and it just at the time, early in my career, 82 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: it just seems so far fetched. Portsmouth, if nothing else, 83 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: is a rumor mill. So a lot of things get 84 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: tossed around without substantive evidence to back it up. But 85 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: it was quite surprising to receive word that there was 86 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: something that could actually back this up. We got a 87 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: copy of it ourselves and verified it through various attorneys 88 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: and our own legal counsel, and I went back and 89 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: looked through the notes that I had taken, and because 90 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: I never throw away a notebook from my time working 91 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: in Portsman, I was like, man, a lot of the 92 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: tracks and here's a government official saying so, and it's 93 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: in a sworn aff a David, So it's time for 94 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: the chips down on the table and get involved. As 95 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: too big of a story to ignore, even if it 96 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: is a place that is not traditionally in an area 97 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: where it might paper covers it. I don't know if 98 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: it initiated a sense of responsibility as much as it 99 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: triggered a pretty huge amount of guilt that motivated me 100 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: to go pitch the story to our bosses, despite the 101 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: paper being two and a half hours away from the 102 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: subject that we were covering. And luckily bosses were hospitable 103 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: enough to allow us to explore and then go dig 104 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: real deep in a story and turn over some rocks 105 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: that needed to be turned over decades ago. Reporter James 106 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Pilcher was writing for The Inquirer at the time. My 107 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: boss came to me, because I was an investigative reporter, 108 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: and said, what do you think about this? Do you 109 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: want to take a look? Is this guy trafficking women 110 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: all over the country from this little town, this burned 111 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: out shell of a town. It's known as the epicenter 112 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: of the opioid epidemic? Is he doing this? Is it true? 113 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: Can we prove it? I really thought there was no way, 114 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: There was no way this could be going on for 115 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: so long and nobody did anything about it. The other 116 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: interesting thing was that the paper who got this wouldn't 117 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: publish it. I mean it's a federal affidavit, and they 118 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: still wouldn't publish it right there in the hometown. And 119 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: Mike Moran, it takes a big city newspaper from two 120 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: hours away in Cincinnati to come in and do this investigation. Now, granted, 121 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: we had the resources of USA today behind us, but 122 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: why not if that had been published, or if the 123 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: local newspaper had been truly an independent arm or an 124 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: independent eye with some of this stuff have gone on, 125 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so. The first time I went to Portsmouth, 126 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect, and they partnered me 127 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: full time. With the photographer who was also bylined on 128 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: the story. Is she and I were just shooting some 129 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: footage out at the US Shoe factory and there was 130 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: graffiti there talking about prostitution and drugs and things like that, 131 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: and this guy rides up on a bicycle saying, what 132 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: you guys doing. We just kind of telling them, so, 133 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: by the way, do you know Michael Murrainey says, oh, yeah, 134 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: that guy runs women. At that point, We're like, oh 135 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: my god, everybody in town knows this. The guy on 136 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: the street knows this guy. We didn't even ask. In 137 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Pilcher began the difficult task of locating area 138 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: women and asking them to open up to him about 139 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: their alleged experiences with Michael Murray. And June of that 140 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: year I got the first woman to come forward and say, 141 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: here's exactly how he did it. And then by July 142 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: we had one or two on the record. And if 143 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: these allegations proven true, this guy was in the seed 144 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: of power. He had these vulnerable women coming to him 145 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: for help from a legal perspective, and he offered then 146 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: the other way out, do this and maybe I can 147 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: get these charges lesson for you. We heard that story 148 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: over and over again. Do this and you won't go 149 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: to jail. And how much of a worse abusive power 150 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: could there being? You started this story not believing this 151 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: as possible. How does that make you feel? Six seven 152 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: to forty, I look like a cop, got a big 153 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: black coute where a black fedora. I'm not warm and cuddley, 154 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,599 Speaker 1: and people don't immediately warm up. Now, I'm a good conversationalist, 155 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: but I was the government kind of accountability reporter. And 156 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: getting women to open up and tell me these awful 157 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: things happened to them. That was eye opening and it 158 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: was a new skill that I had to learn. I 159 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: also had to be the reporter. I also had to 160 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: be the objective reporter. And the hard part was I 161 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: also had to fact check all these women. I couldn't 162 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: just take their word for it. My publication's reputation was 163 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: on the line. My reputation was on the line. I 164 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: had to believe would be skeptical. So when they would 165 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: tell me, oh, I remember that I got arrested in 166 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: this particular place, and I have to say, okay, where when, 167 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: what can you tell me? I'd have to go look 168 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: up the court records all of those things and try 169 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: to make sure that the timelines matched. Ever since then, 170 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: it's been like, you know, these women aren't lying, and 171 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: they deserve all of our attention. The more Pilcher investigated, 172 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: the deeper the ties into the Portsmouth legal system grew. 173 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: We reported several times the women were saying that Marian 174 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: would brag about his relationship with former Kyoto County Common 175 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: Police Court Judge William Marshall. Now William Marshall was one 176 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: of the Marshall Boys. He and his brother were the 177 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: son of the former judge Marshall in that county. So 178 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: Bill Marshall took his dad's place as one of two 179 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Common Police Courts judges which had oversees all the serious 180 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: cases and all the felonies and all the high end 181 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: civil cases. At a county level, it's an elected position. 182 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: There were allegations that Moran was guiding them to have relations, 183 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: to go to parties with Judge William Marshall. It should 184 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: be noted that Judge William Marshall has staunchly denied these 185 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: allegations or any illicit ties to Michael Moran. Though a 186 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: judge is mentioned in the Affidavid Marshall has repeatedly insisted 187 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: he is not the judge referred to as working in 188 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: collusion with Moran and has not been charged in connection 189 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: with that probe. But the allegations made by area women 190 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: didn't stop at a local judge. One of the women 191 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: who did go on the record for that first story 192 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: told us that she partied with the former police chief, 193 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: she partied with former members of the police department, all 194 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: because Moran sat it up. These women came forward and said, 195 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: these guys used their position to either traffick me. When 196 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: lady got sent up to Chicago, not knowing what she 197 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: was getting into and then turned into a prostitute up there, 198 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: and then other women were talking about how the probation department, 199 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: his brother, the guy ran the probation department, was using 200 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: his position to lessen her probation. That's how deep this went. 201 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: One of the best lawyers in, a politician, and a 202 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: sitting judge all possibly involved in this network. And that's 203 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: when we knew we needed to get more women who 204 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: had been through this experience to talk about what they'd 205 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: been through. The following is audio from an interview the 206 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Enquirer did with a woman named Heather Boots. She 207 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: claimed to have been a sex trafficking victim in Portsmouth. 208 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: She went on the record about her alleged association with 209 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: Michael Moran. He's your room. So many people's lives if 210 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: this isn't happening for decades, because the judges and the 211 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: corruption here, they're all of it. It's you just saw 212 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: at any house, they will tell you everything like it's 213 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: no secret. James Pilcher began further exploring the Megan Lancaster case. 214 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: Katie Lancaster thinks very strongly that Michael Moran lured Megan 215 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: into this life and it's his fault she's dead or missing. Now, 216 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: whether he actually was directly involved, all we know is 217 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: she left behind a heck of a lot of notes 218 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: about all of her different liaisons and all the people 219 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: she would go to for money. She kept all of it. 220 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Katie found it. She has copies of everything. We called 221 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: every single number in that book. Some people acknowledge yeah, 222 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: about sex from her and she became like a slew 223 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: of women went missing or got killed that were addicted prostitutes, 224 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: sex workers up in Ross County and Chilla Coffee, which 225 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: is two counties to the north. I mean we're talking 226 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: dozen more women so Megan. A lot of people theorized 227 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: that Megan might have been wrapped up in something that 228 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: got those women killed. But there's a lot of thought 229 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of theory or rumor that now 230 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: that that was separate from what happened to her, and 231 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: what happened to her points back to possibly Michael Morian. 232 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: Michael Moran has denied any involvement or responsibility in Megan 233 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Lancaster's disappearance. Moran has stated numerous times and interviews that 234 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: the only involvement he had with Megan Lancaster was in 235 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: a case involving a former client where Lancaster acted as 236 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: an informant. He has said that he had no other 237 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: relationship with her and that she did not work for him. Additionally, 238 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: authorities have not brought any charges against him in the case. 239 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: At this time, it's unclear whether they have questioned him 240 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: in the matter. Throughout twenty nineteen, the Cincinnati Enquirer published 241 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: a series of articles by James Pilcher and his colleagues 242 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: about Michael Moran and his allegedized to human trafficking. Everything 243 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: that was in that affidavit, we reported it out as 244 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: a rageous of the sounds allegations that he was running 245 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: women all over the country, He was promising women drugs 246 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: for sex, he had relationships with judges and with members 247 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: of law enforcement, all of it. So those allegations, all 248 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: of this is in the federal document, and yet they 249 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: never moved on Moran. Now, the DA says we handed 250 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: all the stuff about human trafficking over the FBI. The 251 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: FBI says we're not going to comment on any potential 252 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: or ongoing investigation. So you can see how frustrated we 253 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: were with like, Okay, why doesn't anybody move on him. 254 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: What's going on here? Bob strictly shared Pilcher's frustration. A 255 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: very important thing that the press does, when it's done 256 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: well is to shine lights and you know, and to 257 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: offer a vehicle for those people stepping forward, right. Do 258 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: you find a sense of kind of responsibility of making 259 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: sure those voices are heard? What that this one apart 260 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: was just the amount of women that stepped forward and 261 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: said something about this to us and talk to us 262 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: about it. And then also the apparatus that has to 263 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: exist around a person Michael Moran for an operation as 264 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: we reported on, to exist in the first place, a 265 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: lot of people have to turn their heads. Kind of 266 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: the damnability of people who just turned the other way 267 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: and don't care about what's going on right in front 268 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: of them in their community is more prevalent than maybe 269 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: we've all realized. Initially. We're going to take a quick 270 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: break here, we'll be back in a moment. As part 271 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: of his reporting, Pilcher tracked down Michael Moran to get 272 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: his side of the story. Moran vehemently denied all the 273 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: allegations about being involved in any prostitution or sex trafficking rings. 274 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: Talk to Michael Moran three times at length. When we 275 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: first talked to him, said, are you a sex trafficker? 276 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: People have said you're a sex trafficker. It says here 277 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: in this appa, David, you're a sex trafficker. What do 278 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: you say to that? He tried to play the dumb 279 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: country lawyer. The following is an audio recording from that 280 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: interview with Michael Moran. I don't even know what to say. 281 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: Give me the definition of a sex trafficker. So then 282 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: we get all these women lined up. Would come back 283 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: to him and say, okay, we've got these women now 284 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: saying that you're the guy, and he says okay, and 285 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: then he was more angry. He would not go on 286 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: camera with us a second time. During one conversation, Pilcher 287 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: asked Moran specifically about Megan Lancaster. Moran denied being her 288 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,479 Speaker 1: pimp or being involved in any of that kind of activity, 289 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: but when James Pilcher brought up the possible whereabouts of 290 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: Megan Lancaster, he got a shocking response. Pilcher relayed the 291 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: story to producer Jeff Shane. He joked with, Hey, maybe 292 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: she's in my basement, maybe she's in my backyard. He 293 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: thinks it's a joke because he knows what the rumors are. 294 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: Wait what you So you asked him directly about it? Oh? Absolutely, 295 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: I said, you have anything to do with Megan Lancaster 296 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: And he said no, but you can check my basement. 297 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: Everybody else wants to, you can check out him back. 298 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: He said, I've invited the cops in to take a look. Well, 299 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to surmise whether he's trying to get 300 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: away with anything, because I don't know whether or not 301 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: he had anything to do with her disappearance. I really don't. 302 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: Are reporting didn't lead down those paths. But he had 303 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: this attitude that he thought he was smarter than you, 304 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: that he thought he was smarter than anybody. And I 305 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: think what probably from my reporting and my history on 306 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: all this is that I read a lot of stuff 307 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: about him and leading up to him, and I'd see 308 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: stories here and there, but nobody but Nikki Blncolnship kept 309 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: at him. Nobody kept on him. And I can tell 310 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: you that we never went away. The photographer person that 311 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: I worked with, was all in the courtroom bugging him, 312 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, was bugging him that she was there. She 313 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: was always taking pictures or getting video of him in 314 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: action in the courtroom. We just never went away. In 315 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, authorities finally made their move. Police rated the 316 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: home of a well known lawyer suspective running a national 317 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: sex trafficking ring for years. March twenty fifth, state and 318 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: local police raid Michael Moran's house with a search warrant 319 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: in Davos. The Attorney General was personally present for that 320 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: en Portsmouth. When you get the state Attorney General showing 321 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: up to serve a search warrant, you know that there 322 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: are some very important people watching this case. I'm looking 323 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: at the story I did and you can see Moran 324 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: is sitting on his porch in his stocking feet while 325 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: police are searching his office slash house. Now the thing 326 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: you got to remember too, which is interesting. He is 327 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: a brick two story house that sits on the corner 328 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: right across from the courthouse and right across Catty coinner 329 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: from the local prosecutors office. So he literally can walk 330 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: back and forth from his house flash office to the 331 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 1: courthouse and walked right in front of the prosecutor's office. 332 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Just seven months later, it all came crashing down from 333 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: Michael Moran. A long time defense lawyer and former city 334 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: councilman has been arrested in an alleged sex trafficking operation. 335 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: So on Friday, October twenty third to twenty twenty, stayed 336 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: in local police teamed up and arrested Michael Moran. This 337 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: comes nearly seven years after that initial affidavit issued by 338 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: the DA for Nicky Blanketship. It was a day that 339 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: marked the culmination of years of tireless work and a 340 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: victory for dozens of Portsmouth women when Mike Maman was 341 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: arrested on October twenty third, He was arrested on the 342 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: eighteen charges that included sex trafficking, rackety cood, spelling, and 343 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: promoting prostitution. When that came out, that was a really 344 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: exciting day for me. I was screaming. I ran through 345 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: the house screaming because I worried that no one was 346 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: ever going to check. No one wasn't really ever going 347 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: to look into it. I really worried. I know that 348 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati enquire they had to do their own investigation, 349 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: but it was approximately a year before they started releasing things, 350 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: and when they released things, I still didn't know if 351 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: anything was ever going to happen, and so finally I 352 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, at least somebody's finally checking. Did it 353 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: kind of validate the journey you had started on? Yeah? Yeah, 354 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: it definitely did. There were also a lot of people 355 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: who were saying he's a great man, and I worried 356 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: about that. I'm like, did I make a mistake? Am 357 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: I wrong? And there's no way I could have seen that. 358 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: I was at this point, I'm like, I have so 359 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: much evidence, but still I can't. I don't want to 360 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: hurt anyone's life like that. So yeah, I was like, okay, something, 361 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: it was valid, and everything I've worked on for for 362 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: a decade is valid. Yeah. Katie Lancaster also felt a 363 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: great sense of relief and was struck by the uncanny 364 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: timing of Marian's arrest. Mariana was arrested October twenty third, 365 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, the day before Megan's thirty third birthday. I mean, 366 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: I was on my way to Columbus and I got 367 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 1: jumped out of the damn car while it was moving. 368 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't speak, I couldn't talk, I couldn't tell anybody 369 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: what was going on. I was just like, oh my gosh, 370 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like I just couldn't believe it, and 371 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: before it happened, the day that it did, it was 372 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: almost like a sense of Okay, now I know this 373 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: is a god thing, Like this happened the day before 374 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: Megan's birthday, almost eight years into it, like it could 375 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: not have come at a better time. It was like, 376 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we did it. We got this far, Megan, 377 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: look what you have done. Like I so just wanted 378 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: five minutes with her to say, look that you've done. 379 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: Let's stop here for another quick break. We'll be back 380 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: in a moment. Just three days after his arrest, Michael 381 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: Moran appeared in court. He was arragned on October twenty six, 382 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: implied not guilty, and then he posted a three hundred 383 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars bond and was released five days after his arrest. 384 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: He was also suspended by the state Bar Association, so 385 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: he's not allowed to practice law at all, both from 386 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: the bar perspective but also from his bond agreement. But 387 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 1: that didn't stop Moran from trying to pull off an 388 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: audacious legal maneuver. So Michael Moran actually initially filed to 389 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: defend himself in court. He had the intimate knowledge things 390 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: that these women would never want to know publicly, and 391 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: he could cross examine them on the witness stand. So 392 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: I actually talked to the Attorney General about this and 393 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: he said there's no way they were going to let 394 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: them do that. They strongly, strongly objected, and Moran is 395 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: since backed off of that. He hired an attorney. It 396 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: didn't take long for Moran to violate his bond agreement. 397 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: As it turns out, Moran represented somebody against the court order. 398 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: He represented somebody in municipal court and filed paperwork for 399 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: somebody in municipal court in Portsmouth. As part of his 400 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: bond agreement, he was supposed to have not represented anybody. 401 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: Now the State Attorney General's Office, under the direction of 402 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Dave Yos, the State Attorney General, is prosecuting this case 403 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: against Moran in association with a prosecutor, Shane Kiman. So 404 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: when they got this, they immediately filed with the court 405 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: to have his bond agreement revoked. It don't think he 406 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: takes anything seriously, and I don't know. I don't think 407 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: the court is really pushing him to have to take 408 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: any of this very seriously either, because even though he 409 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: violated the conditions of his bond. Instead of sending him 410 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: back to jail, they put on the house rests. Currently, 411 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: Michael Moran is a waiting trial, though a date has 412 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: not been set. He continues to maintain his innocence. If 413 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: these allegations proven true, this wasn't a one off, you 414 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: did this many times and it was part of a network. 415 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: This was a part of a repeating pattern of criminal activity. 416 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: He's looking at seventy years or more if convicted in 417 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: their concurrent sentences. I think in small communities like in 418 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: southern Ohio that has just been beaten with poverty and 419 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: drug addiction and so many things, I think that it 420 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: is just so easy to feel helpless and powerless against 421 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: these kind of men. So like men like this can 422 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: get by with us and do whatever they want. And 423 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: I think people in areas prey on the community areas 424 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: like this. I think I've always said that all the 425 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: way down to the drug epidemics, that people come in 426 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: offering to help and really is they're just looking how 427 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: they can profit. And there's a lot of wolves in 428 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: sheep's clothing. It makes it very hard to trust your officials, 429 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: your local government, your local law enforcement, because those people 430 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: are supposed to be there to help you. They promise 431 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: to be there to help you and to fight these 432 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: problems with you, and really they're taking advantage and profiting 433 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: as much as they possibly can offer the issues that 434 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: the rest of us have to battle every day. If 435 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: Megan was sitting in front of you right now, what 436 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: would you say to her? I would say to her, Megan, 437 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: we love you so much and we've missed you so bad. 438 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: And a little boy, he's so wonderful. Boy, he's doing great. 439 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: He's doing great things, just like you are. He plays 440 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: sports just like you did. You need to know the 441 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: great things and the great changes that you've plowed in 442 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: Saturda County and in Ohio and in the world for 443 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: that matter. Your story has reached London, England. You've done 444 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: great things and you will continue to do them because 445 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: I will continue to fight for you. We love you, 446 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: we vish you always. Next week, on the Piked and 447 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Massacre returned to Pike County. On December ninth, two thousand 448 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: and six, someone got into Curtain Jenny's home and shot 449 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: a mother, both in the bed. On a special bonus episode, 450 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: a double homicide leaves another Pike County family searching for answers. 451 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: After fourteen years of being told we've went as far 452 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: as we can go with this case, you feel like 453 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: you're never going to get justice, and then that turns 454 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: into kind of aggravation. Why isn't anything being done? Why 455 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: isn't this case important? Why is it my family important? 456 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: More on that next time. For more information on the 457 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: case and relevant photos, follow us on Instagram at Katie 458 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: Underscore Studios. 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