WEBVTT - The Art of Livin’ with Matthew McConaughey 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:07.000 Hi, Catherine, Oh guys, guess what it's our season finale? 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.119 What season are we in? Technically three, but it was 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.960 sort of like a twice as big season as last season. Yeah. Yeah, 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.239 we just decide when the seasons are going to be over. Yeah, 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:17.919 podcasting is a wild West. You can kind of do 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:20.119 whatever you want. What's with climate change? It's everything is 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.239 so unpredictable. So we're applying that line of thinking to 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:27.720 podcasting exactly. Yes, this is our last episode of this 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.720 season and then we will be back shortly for season four. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.720 Or yeah, okay, wow, what if success? You guys, it's 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:40.680 a success. Yes, four seasons, that's yes, Chelsea. What do 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.280 you love about this show? Love? But oh okay, well, 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.640 why don't you start? I'll start. You know, it's really 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:51.599 become this cool show where like people's lives are being changed, 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:55.960 like people are making better choices, we're breaking people up, 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:00.760 Like it's so wonderful to see people bond with like 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:05.080 you helped me to move my life into a better direction, 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.520 or you know, get that job, or you know, say 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.640 no to that mother in law or whatever it is. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.280 People are really being filled with joy and also connecting 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.720 because of the show it's so exciting. Yes, and it's 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.600 very nice. What Catherine does goes the extra mile above 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.119 and beyond for a lot of our callers, you know, 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.559 they when somebody reaches out and is interested in hearing 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.120 more about a certain issue or recommendation, it's like, you 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.360 really do go the extra mile to make sure people 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.800 feel like, Okay, we're all in this together and we're 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.360 helping people, which is so nice. Yeah, I feel the 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.639 same way. I'm just so happy that people are so impact. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.200 I can't tell you how many people come up to 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.960 me talking about my podcast and saying or our podcast, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.400 i should say, saying just how their lives have changed, 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.480 and that they listen every week. And it's also a 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.400 really great reminder about humanity and that everybody just really 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.600 needs a little push at some point in their lives. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.440 Everybody does, and that's essentially what this is is a 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.680 shove in the right. It's like a pep talk. You're 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.560 getting a pep talk when you're on the fence about 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.960 something or getting advice about how to handle, you know, 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:08.680 a difficult situation in your life. And I think the 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.840 more adept we become at handling difficulty, the better we 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.880 are at helping others handle difficulty. Yeah, and so many 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.840 of these are universal truths, Like you know, you can 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.200 hear something that might not be exactly your situation, but 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.240 you're able to take a life lesson from that and 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.640 bring it into your relationship or bring it into your 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.960 life in a way that's really beneficial. I just think 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.600 that's really wonderful. Yeah, And I like helping people. It 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.280 makes me feel like I have a purpose. Even though 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.440 I feel like I do have a purpose, it's nice 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.160 that this is part of my purpose. Yes. My dad 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.920 always says that we're blessed to be a blessing, and 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.200 when you have this sort of like overflowing wealth of 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:48.080 knowledge or wisdom or whatever, it's really nice that you 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.640 can share it. Yeah, I read. Oh. I remember we 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.079 were talking about a quote a couple weeks ago on 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.440 the podcast, something about being a teacher, like when you 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.840 need the lesson, the teacher will show. When the student 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.720 needs the lesson, the teacher will appear. When the student 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.480 has learned the lesson, the teacher will disappear. It was 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.440 something along the line that line. I don't know if 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.520 it was Roomy or if it was someone else, but anyway, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.720 that's a very good way to look at people coming 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.760 in and out of your life. You know, sometimes it 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.960 takes you a couple times to learn a lesson, and 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.280 sometimes you can learn it the first time. And so 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.720 my goal moving on in life is to learn things 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.160 the first time, the new lessons, not to have to 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.320 do things on repeat. Yeah, because then you offer yourself 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.000 up to a new experience the next time and you 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.160 don't have to repeat that. Absolutely. I used to go 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.840 to this raiky lady in oswee Go, Illinois, and she 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.280 had said, you know, when you get those taps on 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.640 the shoulder of a lesson that you're supposed to be learning, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.400 that is you know, your guardian angels trying to help 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.680 you learn the lesson, and if you don't get it, 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.480 they're going to tap you a little harder, and they're 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.960 gonna tap you a little harder, and then eventually it's 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:50.360 going to be the two wife or that you know, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.800 sort of hits the upside the hat exactly, and it's 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.040 just it's sort of how life works. So I love 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.440 that learning the lesson the first time, right, Well, when 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.360 we're young and stupid, it's it's hard to know that 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.080 you're even learning a lesson. You just feel the two 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.360 by four. You're just like, why does this keep happening 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.000 to me? Why does this keep happening to me? And 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.440 it's like, no, it's not happening to you. You're happening 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.560 to it, you know, like you're not changing the way 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.440 you're thinking about something. So yes, these are all good 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.640 things to keep in mind. And I want to thank 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.400 everybody for being such loyal listeners and for your calls 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.760 and all of it. We just love it, and I'm down. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.320 This audience is particularly awesome. Yeah they are, they are, 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.640 but that's you know what. I have to credit myself 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.120 with that, because my audience has been fucking awesome my 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.200 whole career. Just badass, fucking women. Gay men, and the 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.680 straight men that are on board are really on board, 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.800 and they're the cool kind of straight men, so I'm 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.479 down with them too. And of course, black men, I'm 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.520 always done with black man. I don't know how many 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.640 black straight guys are listening, but if you are, hit 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.919 me up. So what's going on, Catherine? I actually just 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.359 spent yesterday at Disneyland, so I am, Oh, Kurtfrede, you 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.760 know what, go fuck off? I am, honestly, I am 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.480 so sick of your shit. First the Eggs and now Disneyland. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.719 I know, And I even wore my new little Mickey 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:08.039 shirt that's acute. Were at home instead? I'm wearing it. Brad? 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.600 Did you go with her? Are you an accomplice? I did? 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.360 I am. Yeah, we took our nieces. That's not an 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.720 excuse you guys. You can try, you can use them escapegoats, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.920 but obviously you both wanted to be there. Oh how 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.800 is your niece? How's it going so good? Are you 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.520 having nice conversations with her? Yeah, we're having a really 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.920 nice time. Their two nieces here, One is fourteen and 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.560 one is sixteen, And all you have to do is 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.240 be like, so, what's going on with your friends? And 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.000 then they go off for an hour on their friend 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:38.440 drama and yeah, great, right right? I kind of like 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.360 hearing about that drama. Yes, and one of my nieces, 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.479 she's a new little girl friend and she's talking all 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.560 about her relationship and she's so happy and in love 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.480 and it's just it's really sweet. It's wonderful. I mean, honestly, 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.440 I'm just glad they're past the phase where they only 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:59.719 eat macaroni and cheese, because on some delicious street tacos. Yeah, 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.440 they're loving street tacos here in La. What's not to 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:07.240 love about tacos? Oh my god, it's the best. I'm 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.080 so excited. So No, we're having a wonderful time with well, 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.480 my lesbian sister and I she's gonna be a lesbian. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.640 When I got done with her just planned our honeymoon 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.840 portion of our vacation. I was like, we're all on 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.719 this email with our Safari guide planning like our African 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.400 trip because we're taking all our nieces and my ski buddy, Kelly, 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.719 a different ski buddy than Lindsay. We're taking my ski 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.880 buddy Kelly and her two twins. I forget their names 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.560 right now, even though they're my daughters. No one is 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.640 called Jesse and the other one is called Katie. Anyway, 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.880 we're all going Charlie, Seneca and Jordan, my three nieces, 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.760 and my sister, Simone and Kelly and her two girls. 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.599 And so we're going for two weeks. We're going to 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.240 Kenya and Tanzania, and then we're Simone and I are 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.440 going on a lover's week. It's just the two. She goes, 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.080 I have a week off after that. Do you want 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:57.719 to do something, and I was like, you bet, I do. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.279 So we're gonna go to Cape Town and we're gonna 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.400 go to Zanzibar a couple of nights. It's very fun 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.840 and exotic, I know. And she keeps like, He's like, okay, 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.640 here's a villa. I'm like, we don't need a villa 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.840 for the two of us. She's like, yes, we do. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:20.360 Stay away from me being my wing incredible. So I'm excited. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.720 I'm gonna have a big summer of travel. So we're 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.520 gonna have to We're gonna have to bank a lot 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.080 of episodes. Yes, we will do that. Okay. So our 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.360 next guest is an Academy Award winning actor and a 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.760 number one New York Times bestselling author of Green Lights. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:43.800 Matthew McConaughey, are we in lining on time? Yeah? We are. Hi, Matthew. Hello, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.080 how are you? Chelsea? I'm great? How are you doing? 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:50.800 This is my co host, Catherine. Hi, how are you? 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:57.120 I'm pretty good? Good? Great, great, Matthew. I am in 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.040 a state of being blown away because I read your 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.080 book in the last twenty four hours. I'll be honest. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.360 I got it months ago and everybody was talking about it, 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.840 and just like you describe in the book when you 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.960 were accusing somebody of not being interested in something, because 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.080 it was a success, it was popular, everyone was talking 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.000 about it, and I was like, oh, fuck it, I'll 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:24.120 read this later. And I read this yesterday in a day. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.920 It is so fucking impressive. I am so blown away 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.720 by the depth of your humanity, about the depth of 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:35.880 your soul searching. It's so a nice for a woman 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.920 to be able to read a man who speaks and 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.760 thinks the way that you do. We need more of that, absolutely, 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.960 and the fact that you are just so in touch 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:48.679 with yourself is really remarkable. Wow. Cool, Thank you. That 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:53.080 feels good to hear that. Thank you. I bet yeah. 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.360 The success of your book must have been a huge 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.480 boon to you to get all of this out on paper. 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.640 I mean, how did it feel to get that kind 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.880 of feedback and that kind of reaction from everybody. Well, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.480 you know, you put something and you don't know if 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:11.120 it's going to stick or not. And I remember when 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.400 I started writing it, I was actually found myself writing 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:18.480 to try and impress you are an audience, right, And 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:19.959 then all of a sudden, after a couple weeks, I 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.000 was like, that's not the way I gotta do it. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.280 Make it this personal for me is possible, and hopefully 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.840 make it as entertaining as well, and then if it sticks, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:34.440 it sticks, And I got lucky. It hit a nerve 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.760 with some people. So the reactions that I've found in 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.559 travels and emails I've gotten from around the world to say, hey, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.600 I saw myself in your stories. Hey, I'm taking more 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.679 risk to do things in my life that I was 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.040 afraid to take before. Hey, I'm gonna laugh this time 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.360 when I step and ship instead of thinking, oh my god, 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:56.000 it's a crisis. I want to come across some cautions 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.599 in life and I'm gonna blow through them when I 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.280 should not give a CHRISTI so much credit, or I'm 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.679 going to slow down and take a little inventory just 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.480 to hear the feedback. It was. You know, when you 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.480 when you put something out, you have in your mind 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.199 what you hope a reaction will be, and if someone 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:12.960 says that, you don't say it out loud, but if 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.880 someone says that back to you, you're like, yes, that's 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:17.400 what I was hoping. And I got a lot of 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.120 that from the book, and that that felt really cool. 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.080 I mean, the writing of it for me was I'm 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.280 not a guy who looks in the past. I like 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.440 to go forward and hey, what's in the background, what's 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.120 behind in the review mirrors, in the review mirror, So 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.400 to go back and look at who I was and 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.920 now I got here. It was fucking embarrassing. I was. 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.520 I had a lot of shame. I was like, oh 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.640 my god, I can't believe you did that, this, that 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.160 and the other. But after a few weeks writing, I 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.959 started to laugh at that ship and started to gigging on. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.760 Was like going, well, no, shit, man, you know he's perfect. Yeah, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.920 you're screwed up. Put that one in there too, put 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.520 that story in there. And that turned out to be 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.640 some of people's favorite stuff is when I'm writing about 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.920 me stepping and ship, me and Crow. You know, yeah, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.560 because I think it's very, very attractive when people are 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.440 able to not take themselves so seriously, especially in our industry, 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.200 because it's it's a byproduct, right, you have to take 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.200 yourself seriously at times if you want to get serious 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.520 about working, or you want to get serious about accomplishing 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:17.000 whatever your goals may be, So to take yourself seriously 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.440 and also at the same time not take yourself seriously 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.640 enough that you can't expose the shortcomings or the embarrassments 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:29.199 or the self recrimination. Yeah yeah, I like to call that. Hey, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.120 I think we should take it all seriously, especially the comedy, 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.160 especially the screw ups. Take them seriously, do and just 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.079 own them and go, yeah, I take that, you know, 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.080 the comedy of my own life seriously. Do. So let's 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.120 put that up. I take the times when I eat 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.760 crow or follow my ass pretty seriously do, and let's 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.480 just put that out there as well. It was it. Look, 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.560 it was you've written, you put something down on a page, 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:59.360 and you're directing, you're writing, you're the main character. It's cleansing, 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.679 I mean, you kind of. It clears up a lot 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.480 of things. I found out that I remembered a lot 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.200 more than I gave myself credit for. Meaning. I saw 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.800 things that I wrote down when I was fifteen, twenty 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.439 twenty five and was going like, oh, you're essentially the 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:18.480 same guy, the same person. You've evolved, I believe, I 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.040 hope so McConaughey, but you're essentially the same person. Oh 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.079 you do remember that. Even though I always like to 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.920 see this, I write things down so I can forget 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.440 them so they'll be there. You never do that at 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.520 the dinner table, and I know when I'll pull out 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.040 my phone and I always have to go, hey, I'm 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.360 not writing somebody else that's not here. I'm actually writing 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.559 a note of something you just said. And then I'll 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:36.880 show it to you and to go, Chelsea, did you 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.400 say that? And you're like, yeah, I did. I'm writing 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.560 that down so I can forget it and be present 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.719 in the situation again, because if I don't write it down, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.200 I'm gonna be thinking the whole dinner. Don't forget that thing, 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.480 she said. Don't forget that thing, she shaid. And so 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.040 there was a lot of freedom for me in writing 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.439 the damn thing and putting it out there. Matthew, are 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.640 you sitting in front of two flags right now? Yes, 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.280 we have an American flag and a Texas flag. I 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.280 love it country, I love it well. You were supposed 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.280 to become the governor of Texas at some point, right 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.439 all this is supposed to become. I considered considered getting 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.360 in that run and then decided no, not for you, No, no, no, 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.199 I don't think that's where I can be most useful. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.439 Right now, I'm having too good. At a time, I 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.679 got three kids fourteen, thirteen, ten and the adventures were 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.640 going on. I'm not going to get them again. And 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:30.400 right now I'm enjoying being a dad, family man. Everyone 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.240 says it, but it's true. I got seven more years 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.839 and then they're out on their own, hopefully. And then 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.000 everyone says, get what you can while that weather in 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.079 the house, because it doesn't come back. You don't get 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:41.800 the time again. Yeah. Well, one of the things that 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.120 you talk about very emphatically in your book is becoming 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:46.559 a father. That was one of the one thing you 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.319 knew about yourself, you say, is that you knew you 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.600 wanted to be a father. And that's also a very 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.599 nice thing to hear a man say, to be that 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.960 passionate about it. And when you talk about your family, 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.439 it feels like, you know, we have our first nature, 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.520 our personality that we're born with, and then we have 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.199 our second nature, our experiences and the people who raise 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:09.480 us and your family sounds a fucking fun and be 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.440 like you'll never get away from them for your life. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:17.280 You are part of that ecosystem. Yeah, and that had 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.240 had such such a huge influence on you. Your father, 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.320 your values, your morals, your mother, everything that you've been through, 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.040 and now as a parent, to try and redistribute that right, 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.120 that wealth of knowledge, but in a better way. I'm assuming, right, 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.720 you think you can do almost a better job trying. 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.320 How is that going for you? I'm happy that I 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.480 think it's going pretty well. Not making straight a's, but 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:45.560 I think it's going pretty well. I've got some considerate children. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.440 Hopefully they can get out of the house confident, having 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:49.840 an idea of who the hell they are and who 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.800 they're not. Hopefully they can be conscientious. We'd i'd like 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.360 to talk about being a renaissance man or renaissance woman 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.360 to my daughter, but hey, you know, surfing them morning, 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.840 conduct the the orchestra at night, be able to go 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.520 from shirtless and no shoes in the mud to a 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.800 to a tuxedo on the same day and feel at 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.840 home in both those places. We're filling their passports, which, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:15.760 as you know, I think is one of one of 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.800 the best resumes someone can have. You see a full passport, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.040 you've got a pretty good idea that that person has 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.480 some wisdom of how the world works and how humanity rolls. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.960 You know, we got, like I said, fourteen thirteen, ten, 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.520 we're just getting into those teen years. That's a whole 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:34.840 new roller coaster. You know, more rhyme, no less reason. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.400 And then when you have kids, I noticed or early on, 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.720 that it's more DNA than I thought, meaning I thought 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.240 it was before I had kids. I thought it was 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.880 more the second thing environment, culture, what you're raised around. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.840 And I noticed early on that, oh, these these these 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.320 young people are who they are. I can shepherd them, 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.320 I can nudge them, I can put in front of 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.680 them what lights their fire and try to keep them 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.920 from hurting themselves too bad. But other than that, they 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.880 are who they are. And so I've had to you know, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.680 I use this line when it comes to discipline in 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.320 the family. I'm gonna treat you all fairly, but I'm 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.280 not gonna treat you all the same. And it's a 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.800 pretty fun one. We have a good time with the 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.720 fourteen and thirteen. I'm getting to that age where I'm 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.240 starting to become their buddy a little bit, which is cool, 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.160 meaning like my daughter a callmeo're and go, hey, why 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:19.400 I want to talk to you about this thing, and 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.000 we can just talk where I'm not teaching, I'm not 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.560 talking as the parent, we're just jiving where my son 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:28.040 can go flipped on like an NPR the other day 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:29.560 and didn't want to listen to music, want to listen 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.080 to I'm at fourteen. I'm like, God, and what do 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.240 you get out of this? This this talk? He's listening 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.600 to podcast and stuff. I'm going, okay, okay. So I'm 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.320 becoming buddies with the older two right now, which is nice. Yeah. 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.120 I think that's the thing that's always has scared me 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.400 about parenting is having to be a teacher for so long. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.520 That always has been like, oh God, so many questions 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.760 that I probably don't have the accurate answers too well. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.240 And the other thing is you get that thing that 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.960 happens as parents is they'll ask you that question. Like, 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:58.440 for instance, I got one of the book where my 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.400 eldest son comes to me and goes, why is before 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:02.000 Camilla and I were married? He comes to being goes, 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.919 why is it? Mama? On McConaughey, Well, those are those 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:06.760 questions where as a parent, you go, I better have 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.920 a fucking good answer for this because what I say 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.760 right now is going to be branded in their mind. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.200 Or they ask you a big world question and you 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.119 go as a parent, and you may be tired, you 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:20.639 may have had a couple of drinks, it's late at night, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.840 and you go like, whoops, I better have a good 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.919 answer for this one, because what I say right now 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.480 they're going to remember forever. Oh and a good answer. Well, 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.119 the good parenting is actually going and finding that answer, 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:35.240 which resulted in you marrying your wife, right, because how'd 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.480 he not posited that question to you? Who knows when 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.879 you guys would have gotten married if maybe ever or 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:44.600 not ever might have sat there and day and neutral 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.639 and not set a date. But that did give me 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.760 a kick in the backside to go, you know what, 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.760 everything's going great right now, but let's couldn't take this 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.159 to another level and started start a new commitment and 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.720 adventure together. Yeah, okay, Well, with this book has led 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.440 to a very unexpected event, probably unexpected for you two 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.399 to a certain degree. You're doing a live event with 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:08.280 Tony Robbins and some other people, Tony Robbins being probably 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.960 the most notable one. And it's called the Art of Living. 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.600 So let's talk about it. What are you gonna be 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.920 on the end? Because life's a verb, that's right, Yeah, 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:22.960 that's how we say it now not living. Yeah, So 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:28.280 that Tony and Dean read the book like the approach 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.040 and came to me and said, look, it's a great 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.520 approach book. Do you want to dig deeper and maybe 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:36.439 make it more show the process so people can more 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.800 personally may have some transformation. And I was like, I'd 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.040 love to And they're great at that. So that's what 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.440 we're gonna do. On April twenty fourth. We're gonna go 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.480 live the two of them, myself, Trent Shelton, Mary for Lele, 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.960 and we're gonna get under the hood of green lights 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.600 to how share how you can if anyone out there 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.679 can make it personal to their lives, how they can 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.119 we can understand if we're at a green light, our 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.240 highway of life, you know, when things are rolling and 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.040 we can't do no wrong, how do we trust that 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.280 green light that it's one that's gonna that that's one 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:11.119 that's gonna last longer and feed us for longer. What 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.119 do we do it a yellow light? Those pauses in 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.840 life where we're like, I gotta I gotta hit him, 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.240 my giddy up a little bit, I gotta reconsider. What 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.560 do we do? We do we pause and have a 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.520 look over our shoulder and go, I'm gonna have a 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.399 look for the first time. Why I keep stepping in 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.600 that same pile of shit? Or do we say no, 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:29.159 I'm gonna blow this. I'm gonna put the pedal to 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.080 the metal and blow this yellow light life because I'm 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.400 not gonna give the crisis credit because what comes after 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.080 the yell ight the red light, and that's the big 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.280