WEBVTT - NFL Fantasy Football Podcast: Week 14 Waiver Wire - Are you really picking up Joe Flacco?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, December fifth, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your Man, MG,

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<v Speaker 1>Marcus Grant joined by Michael f. Florio. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>fun show for you today. Matt Ocatta is going to

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<v Speaker 1>drop by with his top waiver wire targets for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>but first answering fan questions as we get closer to

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the fantasy playoffs. Let's get to some

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<v Speaker 1>of your questions real quick. You send them to us

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter x at Fantasy NFL Fantasy Rather. Kouba wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know what do we do with Adam Thielen.

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<v Speaker 2>You bench him and maybe even drop him. Like the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers when Frank Reich isn't calling the plays are vastly

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<v Speaker 2>different than what they are when he calls them.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus, you didn't draft him to do all this much

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<v Speaker 1>for you, so you could probably move on from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra wants to know Cup or Puoka. But at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Pooka six straight games with less than

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<v Speaker 1>fifty receiving yards for Cooper Cup. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he's fully healthy or what the deal is, but Pouka

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<v Speaker 1>Nakua really has taken over as the wide receiver one

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles. This one for you from Dale is DK.

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<v Speaker 1>I must start each week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say yes to appease you guys, but no, like

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<v Speaker 2>I know he went off this past week. Coming into

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<v Speaker 2>this game, he was a wide receiver three, averaging less

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy points per game than Gabe Davis. Like, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna start DK, metcalf, I get it. But all the

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<v Speaker 2>people being like you never sit a wide receiver one

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<v Speaker 2>clearly weren't paying attention to the output that DK had

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<v Speaker 2>been giving you the first twelve weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>The Seahawks passing game hadn't been that great before Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night last one. Bryce wants to know who do I

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<v Speaker 1>start rest's schedule full PPR McBride or Ken Kaid. These

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<v Speaker 1>are first world problems here, Bryce. I'm gonna say Trey McBride,

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<v Speaker 1>but this feels like there's no real wrong answer here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trey McBride has been lights out in the last

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<v Speaker 1>month or so, so that's the guy that I would

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<v Speaker 1>go with. Let's get some of the top Waiver one

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<v Speaker 1>targets for the week are pal Matt o'cott has put

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<v Speaker 1>together his list for Week fourteen. Quarterbacks got Josh Dobbs, Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>Mayfield Gardner, Minshew Joe Flacco. Welcome back Joe Flacco at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight years old, the Desmond Ritter and Matthew Stafford.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on to some running backs, Chuba Hubbard, Ti j Spears,

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<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott going on Thursday night against the Stevens, Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>Gibson Commanders on a bye, but worth stashing there, Keaton

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell as the Ravens come back off there by Roshawn Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>Elijah Mitchell because you should be handcuffing your elite players

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<v Speaker 1>at this point the season, and Michael Carter again the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals also on a bye this week. Some pass catchers

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<v Speaker 1>at wide receiver Curtis Samuel, Elijah Moore, Greg Dertsch, Noah Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>and John Metchi with Tank Dell out for the season,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Mingo, who's put together a couple of decent games

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks, Isaiah Likely Jarled Everett, and

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Atten. As we talk about the tight ends. Time

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<v Speaker 1>now to bring in the one and only Matt o'catta,

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<v Speaker 1>who writes the Waiver Wire column. You can find it

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<v Speaker 1>at NFL dot com slash waiver wire. Two teams on

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<v Speaker 1>a bye, which is not optimal considering it's the last

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<v Speaker 1>week of the fantasy regular season. But I guess if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a silver lining, it's Arizona and Washington. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys of not missing, but not an

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming number. Matt So, but let's start at quarterback because

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Flacco thirty eight years old. I will say he

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<v Speaker 1>comes directly off the couch and throws the ball well,

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<v Speaker 1>but look, he hasn't been playing for a while and

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<v Speaker 1>actually looked decent this past week for the Browns.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know where he's been throwing. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't the couch, maybe was his backyard, it wasn't on

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<v Speaker 3>an NFL field, but you wouldn't know it the way

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<v Speaker 3>he came out and slung it this past week. And

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing happened last year with the Jets, and

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<v Speaker 3>this year we said, well, no, he can't do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>He's another year older and he's been out of the

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<v Speaker 3>league for even longer, and this team's not good. He

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<v Speaker 3>threw for two hundred and fifty four yards a pair

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<v Speaker 3>of touchdown passes, sixteen fantasy points with a pick and

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<v Speaker 3>he just looked to good, like maybe the best we've

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<v Speaker 3>seen from a Browns quarterback all year or in recent years.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know this sounds crazy, but I'm not opposed

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<v Speaker 3>to looking at Joe Flacco if you were relying on

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<v Speaker 3>Kyler or Sam Howell, who are two of those somewhat

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<v Speaker 3>usable guys that are out this week. Next week he

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<v Speaker 3>gets to Jaguars. They've actually been pretty soft to fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks over the last five weeks, and they have allowed

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<v Speaker 3>several big performances and a few surprising streams throughout this season.

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<v Speaker 3>It would help a lot if Amari Cooper is active.

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<v Speaker 3>He should be in the concussion protocol after last Sunday,

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<v Speaker 3>so keep an eye on that because that will be

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<v Speaker 3>his number one weapon, obviously. But there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>holes at QB these days, and a lot of streamers

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<v Speaker 3>who could project in this range. I think Flacco is

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<v Speaker 3>one of them, and probably the most easily acquired.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh Kotta, you do this every week, and for

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<v Speaker 2>weeks now you have been telling people to pick up

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<v Speaker 2>Chuba Hubbard. It feels like more than half the year

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<v Speaker 2>you've been saying this. This feels like people's last chance

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it is almost certainly the last chance because

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<v Speaker 3>he's pretty heavily rostered finally, and he just had another

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<v Speaker 3>big game, So I think this is your last shot

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<v Speaker 3>to pick him up. And forty percent of NFL dot

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<v Speaker 3>com players started him last week, So congratulations to all

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<v Speaker 3>of you who got his twenty two point four fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>points against the Bucks. To the rest of you, go

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<v Speaker 3>and pick him up. That marks two straight games for

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<v Speaker 3>Hubbard with twenty plus fantasy points, and this past Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>was his best on the ground by far, twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>carries for one hundred and four yards in what was

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<v Speaker 3>this first game of the post Frank Reich era, So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm optimistic we could see more of that moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Miles Sanders once again looked incredibly inefficient and should honestly

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<v Speaker 3>not be seeing anything more than a couple change of

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<v Speaker 3>pace touches moving forward in my opinion, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>important to note. The Panthers were able to stay in

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<v Speaker 3>that game. I think that's why we saw so much

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<v Speaker 3>from Hubbard. I think they can do that again next

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<v Speaker 3>week against the Sinks, and the week after that to

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<v Speaker 3>get that against the Falcons. Both the visional games against

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<v Speaker 3>opponents there kind of middle of the road, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Saints Rundy is not what it was for many years

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<v Speaker 3>that vaunted d that you could not start anyone against.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm willing.

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<v Speaker 3>To roll Hubbard out there this week and I think

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<v Speaker 3>rest of season.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of running backs that play in a Southern division,

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<v Speaker 1>ty J. Spears as a guy who's had a decent

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<v Speaker 1>role all year long. Now, look, we thought maybe Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Henry is going to be a concussion protocol, then Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Rabel said he's not. But it does feel like people

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<v Speaker 1>should still be adding Spears just because he seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be carving out a decent role in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, it's a little bit of calum in a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of column B there. One. We don't know

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what's going on with Henry. Well, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>have to keep our ear to the beat reporters in

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<v Speaker 3>Tennessee to see what happens with him, whether he's limited anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you said, Spears has looked decent in various

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<v Speaker 3>opportunities that he's gotten. And if anything, if this particular

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<v Speaker 3>injury pans out poorly for Henry, or if anything else

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<v Speaker 3>happens over the next couple of weeks, which we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>and happened recently with other big running backs. Spears would

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<v Speaker 3>be an absolute locked and loaded starter. He was unsurprisingly

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<v Speaker 3>excellent in relief on Sunday, took twenty two opportunities for

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<v Speaker 3>eighty eight yards. That's the kind of thing we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>from him when he's gotten chances. They're also the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the season's schedule for them, Miami, Houston, Seattle, and Houston.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those were already looking intriguing for Spears because

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<v Speaker 3>they're likely to be high scoring affairs where the Titans

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<v Speaker 3>are heavy underdogs and they have to look to the

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<v Speaker 3>pass game more often, where Spears has been more used.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, if Henry misses any time or is limited

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<v Speaker 3>any way, Spears becomes a locked and loaded starter. If not,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a potential pinch hit flex and you want him

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<v Speaker 3>on your bench anyways, just in case.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm getting the pinch hit references in there

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<v Speaker 2>with the Angels memorabilia behind him. Yeah, speaking of backs,

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<v Speaker 2>who are gonna, you know, kind of be in fill

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<v Speaker 2>in duty right now, Zeke Elliott, it looks like Rimandre

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<v Speaker 2>Stevenson times against him this week with them playing on

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday night. What do you think of Zeke if he

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<v Speaker 2>gets to start.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Unlike with Henry, this looks to me like we're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to see Ramandre certainly this week, maybe again

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<v Speaker 3>this season. It depends, of course, on the nature of

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<v Speaker 3>the spring he's got. It's also worth noting the Patriots

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<v Speaker 3>that don't have anything at all to compete for except

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<v Speaker 3>the number one pick right now, though it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 3>make sense to rush Stevenson back in any way. So

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<v Speaker 3>Zeke is the maybe the hottest commodity at the position.

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<v Speaker 3>This week. He's looked surprisingly good given his age, in

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<v Speaker 3>recent inefficiencies with the Cowboys, and how bad this offense is.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think he's going to be the undisputed lead

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<v Speaker 3>and likely bell cow back for this team down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>And he put up ninety two scrimmage yards once again

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<v Speaker 3>in that kind of relief position for when Stevenson went

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<v Speaker 3>out last week. That included forty yards through the air

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<v Speaker 3>on four catches, which is big and it is a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of how Ramandre Stevenson has been fantasy relevant in

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<v Speaker 3>this terrible offense. You have to be able to to

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<v Speaker 3>do that because they're not going to put up a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of points. They're not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>run on teams much, but if you can catch the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>you can put up fantasy points. So I think we

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<v Speaker 3>see that from Zeke. I think he has low mid

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<v Speaker 3>low to mid RB three floor because of the volume

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<v Speaker 3>with an RB two ceiling win Stevenson's out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when we talk about great fantasy QB duos

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<v Speaker 1>this year, I mean we got to talk about Dak

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<v Speaker 1>and CD, Jalen and AJ Brown two and Tyreek. We

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk about Joe Flacco and Elijah Moore because

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<v Speaker 1>apparently that's a thing now that they're together in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, and it's been a thing before, so maybe

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<v Speaker 3>we shouldn't be surprised about this. But yeah, Amari Cooper

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<v Speaker 3>left Sunday's game in the concussion protocol, and now Elijah

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<v Speaker 3>Moore's old flame, Joe Flacco is back in a quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>for the Browns as a result of that combination of circumstances.

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<v Speaker 3>Most likely, Moore had twelve targets for eighty three yards,

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<v Speaker 3>both season highs. It was his third game with twelve

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<v Speaker 3>plus fantasy points in the last four weeks, so he's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of been creeping in on waiver interest regardless. But now. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>he's flashed talent all year. He's flashed talent throughout his

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<v Speaker 3>whole career, but for some reason, he just doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>to get used the way that we all think he should.

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<v Speaker 3>The one guy who seems willing to do that is

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Flacco. He's in a quarterback whether or not Cooper

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<v Speaker 3>suits up this next week against the Jaguars. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're rolling More out there as a fringe starter in PPR,

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<v Speaker 3>and if Cooper does miss time, I think More becomes

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<v Speaker 3>a fringe must start with legitimate eight ten catch upside,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's worth noting that he had those twelve fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>points and those eighty three yards on just four catches

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday because of a really low catch rate. I

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<v Speaker 3>think if Flacco gets another week to work in and

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<v Speaker 3>the two of them get another week to work together,

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<v Speaker 3>we could see that come up, which means his fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>points come.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, moving to tight ends. We've only seen one game

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<v Speaker 2>of Isaiah Likely without Mark Andrews. It was more of

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<v Speaker 2>a floor game, but there's probably a lot more up,

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<v Speaker 2>so I Lely's think there is. How do you feel

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<v Speaker 2>about Isaiah Likely o'cata.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like him a lot, and I think to

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<v Speaker 3>your point, we saw six targets and eight fantasy points

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<v Speaker 3>in that game, the first game with Al Andrews, and

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<v Speaker 3>those did feel like floors, and those are great floors

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<v Speaker 3>for a tight end. We say this often in the

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<v Speaker 3>waiver segment. I say it off in the waiver column.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're gonna get six catches five catches and put

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<v Speaker 3>up eight to ten fantasy points as a floor, that

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be solid enough as a streamer tight end.

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<v Speaker 3>And we absolutely have seen Likely Likely put up higher

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<v Speaker 3>ceilings himself, and Andrews of course put up higher ceilings,

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<v Speaker 3>which means the opportunities there for Likely to do the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore was on bye week last week, so he may

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<v Speaker 3>be heavily available. Go take a look. They get the

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<v Speaker 3>Rams defense next week, who's been soft against tight ends

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<v Speaker 3>all year. I think Likely is as good a bed

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<v Speaker 3>as nearly anyone for five catches and fifty yards in

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<v Speaker 3>the position. And if you throws in a touchdown, you

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<v Speaker 3>have a great start.

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<v Speaker 1>One last one. We all talk a lot about defenses,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about the waiver wire here, but the Colts,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the next four games for them, and

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<v Speaker 1>it lines up pretty well. If you're talking about streaming

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<v Speaker 1>defenses are playing matchups. The Colts have about as good

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<v Speaker 1>as schedule as you could imagine right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I begged our producer to let me throw this

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<v Speaker 3>defense in here, which we don't do that often because

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<v Speaker 3>of how crazy this is. This is what I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>in the column this week. If you have the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 3>the Ravens, or maybe the Steelers, you can move on

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<v Speaker 3>and ignore what I'm saying. If you do not have

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<v Speaker 3>one of those three defenses, drop whoever you have and

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<v Speaker 3>pick up the Colts. They have scored double digit fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>points in four straight games, totaled sixty nine fantasy points

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<v Speaker 3>over that span, four plus sacks in each, nine takeaways,

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<v Speaker 3>three touchdowns in total in those games. And here is

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<v Speaker 3>that rest of the season's schedule you mentioned Marcus, the Jake

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<v Speaker 3>Browning Bengals, the Kenny Pickett slash Mitcheubisky Steelers don't even know,

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<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't matter. The desmon Ridder Falcons and the

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<v Speaker 3>Aiden O'Connell Raiders. I would not be surprised if they're

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<v Speaker 3>the number one DST rest of season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, we were always trying to find great

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<v Speaker 1>matchups and this one, just four excellent matchups handed to

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<v Speaker 1>you on a silver platter. If you want more out

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<v Speaker 1>of silver platter, go to nfl dot com slash Waiver

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<v Speaker 1>Wire get Matt's Waiver Wire picks for the week. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>go check him out on Twitter at Matt o'cotta. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>as always appreciated man. We'll talk to you soon. There

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<v Speaker 1>it goes Matt o'cott I'll be sure to check him out,

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<v Speaker 1>and be sure to hang around check us out too,

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<v Speaker 1>because we'll be back with you later on in the week,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping our fingers crossed about any injury news. Hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>get some of these guys back, because final week of

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<v Speaker 1>the fantasy regular season is now upon us. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>that is it. We are done. We appreciate you hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Tomorrow, we're previewing

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<v Speaker 1>the first chunk of the week fourteen slate of games.

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<v Speaker 1>stick to a thing until you get there. Be safe,

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<v Speaker 1>real soon.