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Speaker 1: All right. Here we go our two and a Monday lot,

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Speaker 1: going on to Monday night football games tonight. Colin right

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Speaker 1: wrong in a second, Matt Hasselback, Cooper Degene, I know

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Speaker 1: I felt at Jean. You know, listen, I have a

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Speaker 1: little I got a little French. Now. This show gives

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Speaker 1: you a lot of international sophistication. We have espresso during

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Speaker 1: some domestic only show. I'm you know, I watched Ryder

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Speaker 1: Can I just say another thing? Well, I'm not even

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Speaker 3: That's one of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: Can I say one thing?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: You sure, Canon, it's your show, go for it. What

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Speaker 3: do you want to say?

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Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: Come on, let's hear no, no, no, I'm gonna do it

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Speaker 4: in about fifteen minutes. Oh maybe thirty minutes. Right here

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Speaker 1: Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of both in a Monday

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Speaker 1: where Colin was right. I said last week with Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear its injuries. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what they do well defensively. They weren't good on Monday

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Speaker 1: night and they're not good now. That's the best game

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has played in a long time. Look at

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Speaker 1: what Kansas City did seven yards of play. Kansas City's rebuilding,

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Speaker 1: their own line, has no run game, Travis Kelcey. You

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Speaker 1: get about one big play a game, and they don't

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Speaker 1: have a number one receiver. I mean, Mahomes hasn't played

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Speaker 1: City doesn't have injuries. Rashie Rice isn't playing. This is

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Speaker 1: Worthy's first game back. They lost their best offensive linemen.

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Speaker 1: They have no real consistent game Baltimore. I said it

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Speaker 1: last week. I think it's time to panic. You may

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Speaker 1: need more than just getting guys healthy on the defensive.

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Speaker 2: Side, where Colin was rogged.

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Speaker 1: Outside of the Bears game, Brian Schottenheimer has looked buttoned up.

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Speaker 1: I know the Cowboys are won two and one, but

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Speaker 1: this is the best I've seen Dak play in eight years.

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Speaker 1: You got to get you gotta get Brian Schottenheimer some

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Speaker 1: credit for it. They didn't have Cede Lamb and they

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Speaker 1: mixed them. They mixed it up very well. Again, their

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Speaker 1: clock management was better than Green Bay. Some of that's

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Speaker 1: just Dak's been around. He's a smart guy. But I

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Speaker 1: will say they're wildly entertaining to watch. They're in every game.

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Speaker 1: They should have beaten if not for a CD Lamb drop,

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Speaker 1: they should have beaten Philadelphia. I thought this team was

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Oh brought pretty or mac Jones, You tell me there's

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Speaker 1: a difference. Wasn't the knock on brock pretty out of college?

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Speaker 1: He was a bit small and reckless. Well, so far

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Speaker 1: this year, four tds four picks. He's got more turnovers

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Speaker 1: the catch, So he did not play well. Again, he's

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Speaker 1: banged up. I understand that these are professional athletes. It's

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Everybody's banged up by week three and four.

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Speaker 2: Gap where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: That is the best game offensively I have seen the

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Speaker 1: Steelers play in maybe six years. Honestly, Aaron was tremendous.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to hear about it. All I

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford maybe the best thrower of a football in

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Speaker 1: the world. He put on a clinic yesterday. I mean

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Speaker 1: Plus Stafford and that defense, this is a real team.

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Speaker 1: They got they have a roster, but Stafford game winning

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Speaker 4: A long time.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: Little ahead of myself on USC first real challenge, got

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Speaker 1: job with Jaden Miyob at the quarterback, but defensively the

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is elite. He's the winningest quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: What I like this team is Green Bay young Offensively,

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Speaker 1: For years and years, I said, I watched Sam Darnold play.

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Speaker 1: He won in high school at USC, at Minnesota and Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Who's winning with the Panthers and the Jets. This guy

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Speaker 1: This kid is really good. And all the quarterbacks we

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Speaker 1: Kate Pleubnick. That's the number one pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: This this kid is if he wants to come out,

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Speaker 1: and he's just not.

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Speaker 4: Bothered at all.

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Speaker 1: I get if you're a thirty two year old NFL quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but that's intimidating. That is an intimidating place you on

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Speaker 1: the road in overtime and he's making throws off platform.

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Speaker 1: Wow with that. Matt Hasselback, he loved to throw off.

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Speaker 4: Platform to his coach's chagrin.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes this league is this league is nuts.

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Speaker 4: This this league is nuts.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with Matt Stafford, because Indy kind

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Speaker 1: of gave this game away. When I watch Matt Stafford play,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm taking if you just said, okay, you

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Speaker 4: What do you see with Stafford?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I agree, and he did give the game away.

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Speaker 6: But no, listen, Matthew Stafford was the question coming into

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Speaker 6: this season, like his health was the question. They've got

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Speaker 6: this great roster, but he's thirty seven years old and

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Speaker 6: he's got this back injuries, walking around like he's constipated

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Speaker 6: for four weeks and we're like, oh, shoot, like this

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Speaker 6: he's not gonna be able to play this year. And

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Speaker 6: he comes out he looks amazing. It doesn't surprise me

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Speaker 6: that he looks amazing throwing the ball, but he looks

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Speaker 5: I mean, look out, look out, NFC.

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Speaker 6: This is a team, and this is a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: So I want to go back and talk about the Packers,

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Speaker 1: So I said, Pump the Brakes. Listen older teams like

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Speaker 1: he's a chaperone. It's like a college team. There are

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Speaker 1: out games. They're clock management. There's a reason Dallas's clock

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Speaker 1: think part of this is Matt. There's still They've been

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Speaker 1: the youngest team in the league for three years. They're

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Speaker 1: just trying to figure out how to close these games

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's a young league.

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Speaker 6: And I also think, like no one's really talking about this,

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Speaker 6: but the two minute operation has changed everything because of

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Speaker 6: the new k ball rule, kickers, field goal kickers.

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Speaker 5: Their rains just changed. Like when I was playing, I

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Speaker 6: You had to get to the thirty three yard line.

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Speaker 6: That is no longer the line. And if you have

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Speaker 6: more exciting late game teams out of it, but they're

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Speaker 6: I thought, offensively, both offenses were pretty awesome. I thought

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Speaker 6: the defenses, this will be a tough one to watch

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Speaker 6: for both teams today.

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Speaker 1: So I said, it's weird, there's been I mean, like

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Speaker 1: I always felt like golf and baseball are sports because

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Speaker 1: you know, I've seen great players like Greg Norman just evaporate,

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Speaker 1: he can't hit. But in football, basketball, hockey, the sports

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Speaker 6: I mean three weeks ago they destroyed Miami down in Miami.

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Speaker 6: he got that corrected. They got that corrected. That was

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Speaker 1: So Jackson Dart they generated and drew up several running plays.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Brian Daball is not afraid to run the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: You know. I think you ran the ball ten times,

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Speaker 1: So I want to go back to Thursday and talk

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Speaker 1: I would have left if I was Sam. It's like

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised? I mean, Seattle is young, They're like

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Speaker 6: But no, he wanted to be with Clint Kubiak. Clint

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Speaker 5: And he hit it off with his play caller.

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Speaker 1: He's guy I always said when he came out, he's

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Speaker 6: Well, there's a difference between like going through your progression,

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Speaker 6: I think what Sam's done a great job of this

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Speaker 6: And even when he does run, it's two hands on

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Speaker 5: And even when the play is broken down, some of.

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Speaker 5: And that's quarterbacking.

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Speaker 6: That's elite level NFL quarterback quarterbacking.

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Speaker 5: Not high school freshman.

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Speaker 6: Football college quarterback quarterbacking. There is a difference, and that's

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's the time or the day, but

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Speaker 1: seems to me I'd watched the Jets the night before

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Speaker 1: I got to cocky Jackson Dart. All all I know

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Speaker 1: is when I watched it, I try to think often

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Speaker 1: how a fan would think. If I was a Giants

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Speaker 1: fan and I'm watching all these young guys, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, Panics was terrible last weekend. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's already been an Atlanta's system for a year and

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Speaker 1: a half and he was terrible.

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Speaker 4: He was good yesterday.

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Speaker 1: My take is for a first start at home pressure Chargers, pretty.

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Speaker 3: Impressive, I thought, well, okay, so first of all, first

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Speaker 3: impressions matter greatly, Coen, Right, we know that first of

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Speaker 3: you meet somebody for the first time. Oh, that person's impressive.

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Speaker 3: Close your eyes for a moment, and I'm going to

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Speaker 3: give you this stat line. You tell me what you

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Speaker 3: think for a first time starter. Thirteen of twenty for

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eleven yards passing fifty four yards rushing. Okay,

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Speaker 3: disconnect from the team. The quarterback Aunty of that if

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Speaker 3: I told you that was his first start, you'd be like,

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Speaker 3: I need to see way more.

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Speaker 2: Colin.

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Speaker 3: They had one drive that went over fifty yards the

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Speaker 3: entire game, and it was the scripted drive to open

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Speaker 3: the game with a great touchdown run by.

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Speaker 1: The first start against Jesse Minter, who has made a

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Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks last year. Look incompetent first start New York,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Mentor I'll just take the scripted drive in no turnovers.

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Speaker 4: I'll be totally happy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wonder how much of it was. Hey man,

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Speaker 3: Joe Old goes down early. You're now all was backing

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Speaker 3: up Slater. So now both you have backup tackles, really

468
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Speaker 3: a third trigger on the right side, and justin Herbert

469
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Speaker 3: was just under duress running for his life, didn't really

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Speaker 3: have much of a chance. Latin McConkey one catch. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 3: this was an outlier. If you want to make something

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Speaker 3: of it, you can. I'm just telling you, like I don't.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if Jackson darts the guy.

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Speaker 4: Is that fair to say. I'm not saying he's the guy.

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Speaker 4: I said, the word is promising it. If I'm a.

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Speaker 1: Giants fan, I'm like, Okay, the Mets disappointed me and

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Speaker 1: broke my heart again. Do you know the Mets didn't

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Speaker 1: win a single game this year going into the ninth trailing,

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Speaker 1: they didn't have a single only team in baseball?

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Speaker 3: Come on, is that really?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, it's like whatever the number was, it's insane.

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Speaker 3: They're like the Jets. Basically. The Mets are like the Jets,

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Speaker 3: just career losers basically.

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Speaker 1: All right, uh, folks, we got so much stuff. RG

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Speaker 1: three is going to be in last hour in insane

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Speaker 1: college football weekend.

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Speaker 1: Wild one last night, George he was on a heater. Listen,

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Speaker 1: George Pickens is always good. But I mean you have

503
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Speaker 1: to look around the league right now. If you give

504
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Speaker 1: most quarterbacks time to throw, they're gonna eat you alive.

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Speaker 1: And Dak Prescott and Jordan Love, I mean the six

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Speaker 1: TD's no picks, and there's two or three things that

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Speaker 1: are true. Field goal kickers have much greater range, more

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Speaker 1: people are blocking kicks, and the quality and depth of

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Speaker 1: quarterback talent in this league is it's really good. More

510
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Speaker 1: and more of these first round quarterbacks are working.

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Speaker 4: Drake he's a hit.

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Speaker 1: Pennis had a bad week and then had a really

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Speaker 1: good week. So I mean, I think the quarterback level

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Speaker 1: in this league, in terms of overall talent, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a time where there were this many

516
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Speaker 1: good young quarterbacks. I mean, Sam Darnold's still twenty seven,

517
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Speaker 1: and you guys mocked me for years on it, and

518
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Speaker 1: I kept saying, he's got elite traits, coachable, tough, little reckless.

519
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Speaker 1: I always better than Carson Wentz, not as good as

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, but somewhere in that space if he gets

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Speaker 1: good coaching. And I mean the quarterbacks that we criticized,

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Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray are super talented. It used to be

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Speaker 1: you just criticize the quarterback and he couldn't play. A

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Speaker 1: lot of the quarterbacks people beat up on, like Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff can't move very well. That's one of the ones

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Speaker 1: you're criticizing. Kyler Murray drives me crazy. Kyler Murray's talented.

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Speaker 1: So in these young guys. It used to be if

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Speaker 1: you could get one big time franchise quarterback a draft,

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Speaker 1: we used to talking about, oh, the Marino Alway Draft.

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Speaker 1: We've had two quarterback draft classes in the last like

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Speaker 1: five years, or like five guys hit. I mean Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: the second rounder, he's hit. J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: No, no turn on the news. This is the herd

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Speaker 2: line news.

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Speaker 3: I'm still waiting for your top ten quarterback list, Colin

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Speaker 3: at the quarter mark of the season, because three of

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Speaker 3: those guys were busts at their first stop and now

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Speaker 3: they're flourishing. Let's get art, however, with a superstar quarterback,

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Speaker 3: and that's justin Herbert Man. He was beat up brutal

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Speaker 3: this week down both of his starting tackles. He got

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Speaker 3: hit twelve times yesterday, felt like more than that. A

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Speaker 3: duel carter was in his face on every meaningful down.

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Speaker 3: Here's Harbaugh talking about the need to change that offensive

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Speaker 3: line issue.

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Speaker 4: That's very concerning.

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Speaker 3: We'll go back and look in.

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Speaker 4: We've got to get better.

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Speaker 8: We we got to put him in a better position.

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Speaker 3: Don't think he was in here.

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Speaker 8: He's been in a good position.

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Speaker 2: We work on it, We get better, get back to

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Speaker 2: work and.

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Speaker 4: Regroup.

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Speaker 1: Wethink he's been hit twenty six times in the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: This is starting to remind me a little bit of

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Speaker 1: big Ben and cam where and Josh Allen early is

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Speaker 1: that he can withstand it now. But these are punitive.

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Speaker 1: These are the kind of things that take you it

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Speaker 1: from being old at thirty four thirty three to being young.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, who I love, sat in the pocket behind

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Speaker 1: bad old lines for years and match thirty seven it

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Speaker 1: looks like Brady did at forty four. Justin Herbert's great,

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Speaker 1: but he is getting They have got to get the

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Speaker 1: old line right. Some of it's bad luck. Joe Alt

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Speaker 1: is high ankle sprain. He will be back, but for

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Speaker 1: big guys, high ankle sprains or a problem.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at their next opponent because last week

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Speaker 3: was Broncos. We know they get after the quarterback and

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Speaker 3: this be goes Giants. But is it the offensive lineers

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Speaker 3: at the opponents? So next up Washington Commanders. Dan Quinn

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Speaker 3: loves to blitz. The blitz is not getting home as

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Speaker 3: much as they would like. I personally think Chargers will

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Speaker 3: be okay next week. Chargers Washington's interesting because if Washington

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Speaker 3: loses this, I would expect Jaden Daniels back.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: They fall to two and three from NFC Championship to

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Speaker 3: two and three Now, I know Daniels hasn't played for

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, but the Washington defense, did you

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Speaker 3: see what Michael Pennix did to them. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a get right spot for Herbert Colin. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 3: the offensive line. Is it a major concern or Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's a week to week league. Like the Dolphins in

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Speaker 3: Week six they stink they can't get.

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Speaker 2: To the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just think the Chargers defense will

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Speaker 1: keep them in a lot of games. I think this

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Speaker 1: was a bad matchup. I said last week, stay away

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Speaker 1: from the Packers game and stay away from the Chargers game.

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Speaker 1: Those were two I just said. And I said stay

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Speaker 1: away from the Bills Saints game. Is that New Orleans

593
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: was humiliated. They're pro athletes. They were gonna play well.

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Speaker 1: The Giants D line. With the O line issues and

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Speaker 1: Herbert getting hit, I said on Friday Show, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be low scoring and ugly, and so this is

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Speaker 1: this league is tough, and like Minnesota is a well

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Speaker 1: coached team. Minnesota looked awful offensively against Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: Wide.

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Speaker 1: They were missing three offensive line starters, so they couldn't adjust.

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell smart and he couldn't adjust, they couldn't run.

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Speaker 4: The ball, so you're stuck.

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Speaker 1: So I just thought this was a combination of the bear.

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Speaker 1: The Giants defense is great upfront, and they once Joe

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Speaker 1: all got hurt.

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Speaker 3: Game over trenches matter. All right, let's move on to

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Speaker 3: the Eagles. Colin, you touched on this earlier. A nice

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Speaker 3: little ninety second riff from you on Cooper Dejene and

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Speaker 3: this bogus, laughable fifteen yard taunting penalty. It was basically

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Speaker 3: the Allen Iverson stepover. If everybody remembers the tailo thing.

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Speaker 3: For those listening on.

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Speaker 1: The radio, person was way more obnoxious. I mean, Iverson

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Speaker 1: kind of made a point that one felt like football

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00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: guy gets up and walks and by the way moves

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Speaker 1: his left leg up. He wasn't trying to sit there.

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Speaker 1: This was not like Scottie Pippen against the Knicks. That's

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Speaker 1: not what this was.

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Speaker 3: I just I need to say, Cooper Djen is a

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Speaker 3: bad you know what, Okay, this guy is awesome. He

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Speaker 3: is probably one of the best young defensive backs in

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 2: Colin.

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Speaker 3: Not only is he a hitting machine, but he's a playmaker.

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Speaker 3: He's always around me. He's like a ballhawk. He's like

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Speaker 3: a He's a an ed reed Ish type player. He

626
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: wraps up. He's a great tackler. It's an easy guy

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Speaker 3: to root for. And I know you've seen you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm a hoops guy. You've seen his high school basketball reel. Right,

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Speaker 3: He's a dunking machine back in high school. Like, this

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Speaker 3: is a superior athlete. How about the Eagles drafting Cooper

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Speaker 3: dejen and Quinjon Mitchell. Mitchell was unbelievable yesterday. This is

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Speaker 3: an Eagles team that's pretty nasty twenty and one.

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Speaker 1: Their issue is offensively, they have horrible halfs. Like they're

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Speaker 1: trying to get aj Brown the ball and they can't

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Speaker 1: nine target seven yards.

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Speaker 4: They're trying and they can't do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: By the way, did you see a Jalen hurt not

639
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts AJ Brown Instagram thing that he posted yesterday. Yeah,

640
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Speaker 3: he's not in a good place. Final story count to

641
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Speaker 3: college football. I know you were in Champagne for what

642
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: was supposed to be a celebratory Trojans winning. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley's defense let down.

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Speaker 2: USC did have an.

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Speaker 3: Awesome comeback in the fourth quarter. Yeah, but they ended

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Speaker 3: up losing.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line on this, you can blame Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: because they scored too quickly at the.

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Speaker 4: End of the game. That's not the issue.

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Speaker 1: When you're on the road with college kids and you

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00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: can score, score, you're not dealing with a thirteen year

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Speaker 1: NFL veteran at quarterback. This is not Stafford and McVay.

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Speaker 1: If you can score or score. But defensively, they've gotten

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Speaker 1: worse and they've got size. They nil they went and

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Speaker 1: bought a defensive line, They got no push, they got

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Speaker 1: pushed around.

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Speaker 4: They look tired at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's stylistic or it's because

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Speaker 1: of the way they practice, but Illinois that got completely

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Speaker 1: humiliated by Indiana had over five hundred yards.

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Speaker 4: I was at the game.

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Speaker 1: Illinois does not have the kind of offense that should

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Speaker 1: have five hundred yards against any team in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 4: It's not that kind of offense.

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Speaker 3: You know, these nineteen twenty year old guys, they see

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Speaker 3: Illinois got their doors blown off, and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we're going in six point favorites or whatever it was,

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Speaker 3: and they got all cocky. I'll just say this, I

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Speaker 3: think Jordan Mayava I think you probably called this actually yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's sorry, Jade Maiava. I think he's better than Arts Manning.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even kidding. I'm watching this kid. He's making

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Speaker 3: plays left and right. He looks like a pro.

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Speaker 1: You were missing they had their tight ends in the slot.

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Speaker 1: They were missing their number two receiver for ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of the game.

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Speaker 4: Lemons amazing.

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Speaker 1: But I mean he made in this game, and I

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Speaker 1: was sitting with USC people. He made four or five

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Speaker 1: and this is one of them. Unbelievable throats he is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a huge pro prospect. He's he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a huge arm. He's more of a placement quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a ton of horsepower.

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Speaker 3: Six three two fifteen, man, I know looks better than Smeyer.

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Speaker 3: I would take him over Club Nick in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 3: It'sign close.

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Speaker 4: You're not right.

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Speaker 3: This guy looks good. Man. Well, well let's see what

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Speaker 3: he does against you know, uh, Michigan in a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: But I was impressed by the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Jmcklebnews.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd line News.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I could not get over how bad USC's defensive front was.

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Speaker 1: Thank God for Eric Gentry making a couple of players,

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Speaker 1: or it could have gotten worse.

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Speaker 1: So cam Ward is struggling. He's talented, but it is

708
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Speaker 1: hard to be a rookie quarterback. And Jackson Darts feeling

709
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Speaker 1: pretty good about himself. Last year was a big quarterback class,

710
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Speaker 1: and we said we thought most of these guys outside

711
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Speaker 1: of JJ McCarthy was the one I didn't really buy.

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Speaker 4: But I liked everybody at certain levels.

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Speaker 1: I loved Caleb and Jayden Daniels, and I really like

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Speaker 1: Pennix and bow Nicks, and I thought Drake May also

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Speaker 1: was gonna make it. So Drake May won again yesterday,

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns one hundred and fifty five passer rating. You

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Speaker 1: can look at the highlights, size, temperament, accuracy, mobility. He's

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Speaker 1: top six right now in total yards, in total touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a ton to work with. PFF

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Speaker 1: in their preseason evaluation had New England as the second

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Speaker 1: worst wide receiver group. So to me, head coach Will

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Speaker 1: Campbell looks like he's gonna work. Head coach left tackle

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Speaker 1: quarterback renew year season tickets. It looks like they found

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Speaker 1: the guy. Special teams are excellent. So I would say

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Speaker 1: if you look over last years first round quarterbacks, here

726
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Speaker 1: is the report card. Caleb looks promising. Jaden and Drake

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Speaker 1: May in my opinion, are hits. Michael Pennix inconsistent like Caleb,

728
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Speaker 1: but very promising. JJ McCarthy wasn't.

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Speaker 4: A huge fan.

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Speaker 1: I have real doubts. He looks overwhelmed. Bo Nicks who

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Speaker 1: plays tonight. I think that is another hit. He's been

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Speaker 1: a shaky September quarterback, but good otherwise.

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Speaker 4: And here's Mike Vrabel, his young QB.

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Speaker 8: Just throw to the guy that's open in the progression

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Speaker 8: as soon as he's open, and then if not quickly

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Speaker 8: progressed through those are the things that that quarterbacks have

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Speaker 8: to do, and they have to have a command of it.

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Speaker 5: And we we did that.

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Speaker 8: If we continue just to believe in the quarterback that

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Speaker 8: he's going to throw it to the guy who's open

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Speaker 8: in the progression, that good things will happen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I like getting up and having a football

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Speaker 1: game on. Now that I live in Chicago most of

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Speaker 1: the year, I don't like waiting till noon. When I

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Speaker 1: used to live out East waiting to one, it was

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Speaker 1: like honey news, mow the lawn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get me out of here.

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Speaker 1: Now I gotta wait till noon. So I love international games.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, bonjou, smoke all day, wear socks, dress,

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Speaker 1: socks to bed whatever. I'll turn French if I have

751
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Speaker 1: to get more early games. I am a fan of it,

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Speaker 1: especially a fan if you're a Steeler and you watched

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers yesterday. Like I've been saying this for years,

754
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: Tomlin's fine. The defense will make plays. They spend a

755
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: bunch of money on it. It's not a real chaotic franchise.

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Speaker 1: They can't run the ball. Their pass pro is shaky.

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00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: I thought yesterday blew me away one hundred and thirty

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00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: rushing yards, Aaron had only four balls hit the ground.

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Speaker 1: He and DK Metcalf clearly work. And again, this is

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Speaker 1: against the real team. We're not talking Jets and Bengals here.

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Speaker 1: It's a real defense with a real coordinator. So their

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Speaker 1: offense has been struggling for seven years and it was

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Speaker 1: certainly the best offensive performance. And I'm not just talking stats.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking pass pro run game, facing a real team,

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Speaker 1: time to throw a connectivity with a star receiver. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had a couple of big games last year.

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Speaker 4: They didn't feel like this.

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Speaker 1: So it's the first time I have watched the Steelers offense,

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Speaker 1: I'm honestly in years, and I was like, oh, they

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Speaker 1: could win a playoff game. It's twenty twenty five. That's

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Speaker 1: a real offense. So, I mean, they've got a star receiver,

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Speaker 1: a smart veteran quarterback. They're good on third down, they

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Speaker 1: run the ball, there was holes, they were good in

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Speaker 1: the red zone. I mean it was this is not

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Speaker 1: the Steelers I've watched for the last six years.

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Speaker 4: So and Brian Flores, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, honestly, you know, I felt like it was like

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Speaker 1: that dysfunctional family member came out for a family vacation

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, he's got a job. He's not

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Speaker 1: wearing a band T shirt. He's got a sweater on

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Speaker 1: and a cute girlfriend. He's talking about setting up a

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Speaker 1: roth Ira. You're like the dysfunctional brother in the family's

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Speaker 1: all grown up. I felt like I watched the grown

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Speaker 1: up offense. I you know, listen, and I've been critical

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Speaker 1: of Aaron.

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Speaker 4: Aaron looked great. I was. I was blown away with Aaron.

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Speaker 4: It's my favorite bet of the week. I started on one,

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Speaker 4: but uh yeah, j Mac rolls his eyes. You didn't

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Speaker 4: win that one either.

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Speaker 1: But I told you stay away from the Bills, stay

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Speaker 1: away from the Chargers, stay away from the back to

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Speaker 1: get out of those are traps. But I, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you and I have been critical of Aaron Rodgers, but

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Speaker 1: we have to be fair in this business. He looked

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Speaker 1: really young and really vibrant and really good.

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Speaker 2: Did he not?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I did with on the Vikings and Rogers looked good.

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Speaker 3: So they clearly knew that he was going to be

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Speaker 3: in trouble under pressure, right, everybody knew that They released

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Speaker 3: the ball. I think it was the quickest Rogers had

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Speaker 3: released it this season. Everything was boom boom, get rid

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Speaker 3: of the ball instantly. None of this's like hang around

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Speaker 3: and go through progressions, and Rogers delivered like it was

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Speaker 3: a good game plan. I will admit Minnesota's offensive line

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00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: killed them in that game. When we get our intkey

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Speaker 3: eighty yard touchdown to DK Metcalf to make it well.

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Speaker 4: That's that's fourteen three. That's not fluke.

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Speaker 3: Come on, eighty yards, it's the longest touchdown of the

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Speaker 3: season so far. That's fluky. They're not replicating that. You

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Speaker 3: know that lucky play, and I know that sounds dismissive.

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Speaker 3: It was twenty four to six. Stealers killed him. We

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Speaker 3: were way wrong. I was wrong.

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Speaker 5: Carson wentz.

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Speaker 3: By the way Carson wentz. Is there a quarter controversy

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Speaker 3: of Minnesota anymore?

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Speaker 2: Huh huh?

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Speaker 4: What would JJ McCarthy done against that pass rush? I

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Speaker 4: mean it was I.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to make excuses though, like the Vikings could

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Speaker 1: not adjust, they didn't have the personnel.

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Speaker 3: Well, by the way, a lot of people going after

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell. Here, Vikings, dopey Vikings fans. Hey, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 5: What's happening?

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Speaker 3: Like people are just overreacting. Carson Wentz did not look

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Speaker 3: like he was ready. I think he got sack six times.

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Speaker 3: Colin a lot of poor decisions in the pocket. I

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Speaker 3: also want to talk about this. Let's talk Bears and

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Speaker 3: Raiders first. Okay, please?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: So it was an interesting game the Bears Raiders was interesting.

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Speaker 4: It was really ugly.

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Speaker 1: It was the opposite of last night, which was really

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Speaker 1: beautiful offensive football and great quarterback play. So Gino was hideous.

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith had three turnovers. I still can't figure out.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll literally can't sleep at night if you throw

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Speaker 1: one interception. Pete can't stand turnovers. He likes Gino Gino,

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Speaker 1: how many do you have?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 2: Seven?

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Speaker 1: So Gino was atrocious and the Bears needed a block

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Speaker 1: field goal to win.

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Speaker 4: With four turnovers from their defense.

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Speaker 1: So my takeaway though, when you watch the Bears play

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Speaker 1: is I think you have to be honest about this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Ben and Caleb are ever. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like Brock Purdy and Shanahan. What Brock Purty does is

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Speaker 1: what Shanahan wants him to do, right, And I thought

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold and Kevin O'Connell that's how he wants his

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Speaker 1: quarterback to play where you've got some ceiling and upside.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like I think, I think Caleb.

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Speaker 1: The most impressive thing to me was that Caleb was

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Speaker 1: making hard throws over the middle of the field, which

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Speaker 1: a lot of smaller quarterbacks can't. He's not small. But

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Speaker 1: it's not just that he completed the ball. Is he

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Speaker 1: kept his eyes downfield when he was running. He slid

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Speaker 1: at the right time, but he made them over like

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Speaker 1: that throw right there to Roma Dunze. This is a

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Speaker 1: big time Matt Stafford throw. It's not just throws up

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Speaker 1: the sideline. He said that they could not block Max Crosby,

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Speaker 1: they could not block him, and Caleb knew they couldn't

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Speaker 1: block him, and Caleb knew they couldn't block him. So

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Speaker 1: that's in Caleb's head. They're on the road. They had

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Speaker 1: I mean that they they had penalties so to win

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Speaker 1: in artistically and Caleb making big boy throws down the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field with Crosby bearing down on you.

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Speaker 4: Here's Caleb after the win.

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Speaker 7: I think those moments that you know we're we're born

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Speaker 7: for that I'm born for, and I think being able

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Speaker 7: to portray the belief that you know, guys, this is

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Speaker 7: all we got and this is all we need. We're,

873
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Speaker 7: you know, in a in a position where we're not

874
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 7: in a favorite position.

875
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 4: We're down.

876
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 7: It's it's all eleven of us on the field and

877
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 7: we got to go do a job. And so I

878
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 7: think just a belief, the trust, the hard work that

879
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 7: we put in, those are the moments that you that

880
00:40:59,239 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 7: you wish for.

881
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this out there, though, is that I

882
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: do feel like Roma Dunzee and Caleb have a connection.

883
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: Cole comment who was with him last year, they have

884
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: a connection. I mean Luther Burden, it's hit and miss

885
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: DJ Moore can feel like he disappears throughout the Force

886
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: four games of the year, and guys get dinged up

887
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: and we don't know the health of everybody. Sometimes the

888
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: guy gets dinged up on the second series and the

889
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: coaches don't want you to know. So I don't want

890
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: to try to guess or speculate. I think they could

891
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: move one of their skilled people to get a little

892
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: better defensively, because sometimes I feel like they have too

893
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: many players that Caleb has to get the ball to,

894
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: and clearly he and Roma Dunze fit