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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Once episode ninety of the Hammer Territory podcast,

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Speaker 1: I and your host Brad Roland coming to you is

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Speaker 1: Sunday evening here at the end of September, and I

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Speaker 1: am joined as I often am, by Scott Coleman. Scott,

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Speaker 1: this could have been a celebratory episode. Instead it is

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Speaker 1: a let's just say, we're contemplating a lot on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: How are you hey?

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Speaker 2: Brad? Doesn't it feel just right that this season, where

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Speaker 2: so much has gone wrong, like injuries, bad luck, bad performance,

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Speaker 2: the offense, all of the above, that now this team

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Speaker 2: maybe doesn't have to play a game one sixty three,

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Speaker 2: but it kind of feels like a game one sixty

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Speaker 2: three because there's no more regular season baseball other than

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Braves and the New York Mets now having

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Speaker 2: to play two games. We're going to dig into that,

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Speaker 2: but it is a real bummer that they were not

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Speaker 2: able to kind of wrap things up today against Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: because I think the vibe would be much better, quite obviously,

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Speaker 2: And now we all just kind of get to have

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Speaker 2: queasy stomachs for the next twenty four hours and pray

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Speaker 2: that somehow the Braves can win one of these two

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Speaker 2: games on Monday, and they will find themselves in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot to get to on this episode,

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Speaker 1: including as Scott just tease, a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: preview of what is now in money doubleheader that's going

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Speaker 1: to be happening no matter what. We'll talk about the

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday, which the Braves fell short in a

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Speaker 1: clinching opportunity. But we shill also tell you at the

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Speaker 1: top of the podcast we are part of the foul

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Speaker 1: Territory network of podcasts. Here at Hammer Territory. Please subscribe

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Speaker 1: shining faces sometimes also ratings and reviews appreciated, and tell

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Speaker 1: your friends. Of course, we have to shows all weekend

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Speaker 1: as well. If you missed it. Friday night, our colleagues

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Speaker 1: Steve and Sean did a podcast. I actually went solo

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Speaker 1: on Saturday in a rare solo episode because it was

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Speaker 1: just a Saturday night. We don't usually do a podcast there,

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Speaker 1: but it was kind of appropriate to do so, so

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Speaker 1: download those listening to those podcasts.

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Speaker 2: But look, the.

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Speaker 1: Braves had like a ninety five percent chance and all

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Speaker 1: the models to make the playoffs as of last night,

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Speaker 1: and look, this might come up later on. Every single

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Speaker 1: thing went right for the Braves on Friday and Saturday,

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Speaker 1: which spoiled us on some level, like you don't bank on,

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Speaker 1: Like basically it was a sixteen part like you know,

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Speaker 1: six or seventeen par away that hit on Friday and Saturday,

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Speaker 1: if you want to view it that way, and that

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Speaker 1: did not happen today. It's obviously down to like the

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Speaker 1: back to later on. So it's still the Braves are

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Speaker 1: in a good position, but queasied for sure, especially for

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Speaker 1: you know, long time Atlanta sports fans, Like nothing is

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Speaker 1: be that way. And it turns out Monday Baseball would

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Speaker 1: have happened either way today. The Braves could have clinched

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Speaker 1: playoffs was never going to happen. But then the Braves lose,

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Speaker 1: so now they have to win at least once. That's

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Speaker 1: for the Mets. The Braves and Mets play, of course,

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Speaker 1: It's essentially, win one and you're the five seed. Win

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Speaker 1: of crazy after all the machinations. It could have been

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Speaker 2: Win a game on Monday, Yeah, win one baseball game

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Speaker 2: and sincerely are hoping for the best. You know, in

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Speaker 2: no questions asked, And the Braves, assuming they win one,

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Speaker 2: the other hand, the Mets just went from Atlanta to Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: go back to Milwaukee. You know, the travel, Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: And we just have to hope that Braves can win

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Speaker 2: Yeah. On the logical side, or maybe the analyst side

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Speaker 2: New York has literally nothing to really play for. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: Other than the rivalry aspect of things with the Braves

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Speaker 1: By the way, Monday is the only baseball action happening

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Speaker 1: I think one of the overriding ethos of this podcast,

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Speaker 1: And you're right, there's this delicate dance the Rads have

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Speaker 1: He's four years old. He's a perfectly fine guy to

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Speaker 2: Again. It's kind of fitting that if the Braves would

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Speaker 2: It's been very, very bad. Believe. He's four for thirty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about Ozzie, but they left eight on

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Speaker 1: was some errors, there were some like little things that

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Speaker 1: happened to go the bravest way, which is nice, and yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: some solo home runs, but you cannot also be bad.

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Speaker 2: On the base pass.

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Speaker 1: If you're not gonna hit, you got to you gotta

436
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Speaker 1: run well, you gotta do little things well. And they

437
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Speaker 1: didn't do that at all today. They had a couple

438
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Speaker 1: of threats down the stretch. You know, they got guys

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Speaker 1: on in the eighth and the night ninth, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: But you talked about Ozzy. Let's do this segment now quickly.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, I've always kind of defended Ozzie. I've always

442
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Speaker 1: been kind of high on AUSSI all these things, and

443
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Speaker 1: Ozzy has always been this is true, an elite, elite

444
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Speaker 1: hitter against left handed pitching always that's always been the case.

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Speaker 1: He had the injury, right but even even I like,

446
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Speaker 1: he's never been that good of a hitter against right

447
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Speaker 1: handed pitching. Even he was able to swing fully and

448
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Speaker 1: biggest switch hitter and had the and had the Patuton advantage.

449
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Speaker 1: Now he's lost with the Patuton advantage. He also is

450
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Speaker 1: clearly rusty, he had no rehab all these things and suddenly,

451
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Speaker 1: and I know Steve's talked about it a lot on

452
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Speaker 1: their on their side of our podcast, but why in

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Speaker 1: the world, Scott is Ozzy hitting second against Righty's Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand even the thought process of doing that.

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Speaker 1: And today you mentioned it already about how it keeps

456
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Speaker 1: coming up. We've been joking about Orlando Rcia kind of

457
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Speaker 1: finding these plate appearances where we don't want.

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Speaker 2: Them to be.

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Speaker 1: It was Ozzy today, it was like, Oh, Ozzi's up again,

460
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Speaker 1: and fittingly, Ozzy makes the last out of the game

461
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Speaker 1: today batting second, and it's like, why is he in

462
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Speaker 1: that slot? And I love Ozzy, but like, it doesn't

463
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Speaker 1: make any sense at all.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't get And let's be clear, right off

465
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Speaker 2: the top, there are like three good hitters in this lineup,

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe four and a half depending on if Jorge

467
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Speaker 2: Sohilaire is doing anything. So if they had like nine

468
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Speaker 2: good hitters and they had Ozzie batting second, I think

469
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Speaker 2: it'd be even more egregious. And I get it, man, like,

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Speaker 2: you're not batting Geo or Sell a second, you're not

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Speaker 2: batting the catcher's second, you're not betting Orlando or Se

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Speaker 2: a second. But literally, anybody else I would say should

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Speaker 2: be in the two hole other than Ozsy, especially again

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Speaker 2: especially Agast writings, Yeah, it is. You know, it is

475
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Speaker 2: a lineup that is heavily dominated by right handed pitching

476
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Speaker 2: or right handed hitters right now, be especially with Ozzie

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Speaker 2: not being a switch hitter. All you have is Mett

478
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Speaker 2: Olsen and Michael Harris. And that's something that I think

479
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Speaker 2: the Braves need to try to figure out in the offseason.

480
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Speaker 2: It's get a little more balance in the lineup, but

481
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Speaker 2: all of that down the road, man that they have

482
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Speaker 2: to find a way to get the most out of

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Speaker 2: the couple of hitters who were actually hitting the baseball

484
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Speaker 2: right now, and putting Ozzy in the middle of Michael Harris,

485
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Speaker 2: who's been awesome the last maybe week and a half,

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Speaker 2: and then Ozuna and Olson and Loriano and so Layer.

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Speaker 2: Putting him in the middle of all that is just

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Speaker 2: not conducive. I would I would put so Lair there,

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Speaker 2: I would put Loreano there. I would move Ozuona up

490
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Speaker 2: and move Olsen up. I mean again, man, it's it's

491
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Speaker 2: a little bit of like beggars can't be choosers because

492
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Speaker 2: of the current situation with the lineup and all the injuries.

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Speaker 2: But again, four for thirty one, one extra base hit,

494
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Speaker 2: one walk. Even at his best, Ozzy all these is

495
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Speaker 2: a power hitting low on base I mean, that's all

496
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Speaker 2: he really is. And even when like last year when

497
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Speaker 2: he was awesome, he was still like a three thirty

498
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Speaker 2: five OBP guy. Dating back to twenty twenty, he has

499
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Speaker 2: a three thirteen on base percentage, So five seasons now

500
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Speaker 2: a three thirteen OBP. And then you add in the

501
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Speaker 2: fact that he's basically playing on one with one healthy wrist,

502
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Speaker 2: it's just compounding the issue even more. And it felt

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Speaker 2: like on Sunday, if there was maybe an LVP of

504
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Speaker 2: the game, it was probably Ozzy Alby's because he had

505
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Speaker 2: a lot of chances and just could not do anything. Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: I guess the lefty you could talk me into it,

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Speaker 1: because the even recently the post injury record form, Ozzie

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Speaker 1: is not good enough to justify the two hole, even

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Speaker 1: against the lefty. But you could say, look, he's been

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Speaker 1: we still always make the Mike Trout comparison, basically called

511
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Speaker 1: Ozzie Mike Trout when he bats right handed, because it

512
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Speaker 1: really was true he was that good for like several seasons.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to lean on that, I would

514
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Speaker 1: understand it and put him there, and that's that's not crazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I would do that, but

516
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Speaker 1: like you could sell me, I guess right as you

517
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Speaker 1: can't sell me especially And look, there's this other contestion

518
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Speaker 1: we could have if you want, like Ozzie's kind of

519
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Speaker 1: killing them on He's not a good defender anymore.

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Speaker 2: We kind of know that.

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Speaker 1: And should he even be starting, I mean, should wit

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Speaker 1: mary Will be playing, because I don't know how seriously

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Speaker 1: they would consider that, just because of the pedigree of

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Speaker 1: Ozzie and the history and all those things, and I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm usually pretty cold analytical, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I would expect them to pull Ozzie Alby's and must

527
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Speaker 1: win games when he is telling you he's healthy enough

528
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Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, but there's also objectively you could say,

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Speaker 1: given the defense and the fact that what mary fild

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Speaker 1: will take a walk, he might just be better. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna do it, but would you

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Speaker 1: consider it if you you were suddenly all powerful Scott

533
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Speaker 1: in the front office, would you consider playing wet on Monday?

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Speaker 2: Let's say yeah, I mean, would I do it? Yes,

535
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Speaker 2: But I'm also not a manager who has to be

536
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Speaker 2: a face to face with twenty six players every single day.

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Speaker 2: And Ozzie Alby's holds a lot of weight in that

538
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: clubhouse for a good reason. This has been one of

539
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Speaker 2: the better second basemen in the game for really since

540
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Speaker 2: the day he debuted in twenty seventeen. Ozzie always carries

541
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Speaker 2: a lot of weight and respect and as a veteran

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Speaker 2: in that clubhouse. So do I think what Maryfield is

543
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Speaker 2: going to be at second base on Monday? No? But

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Speaker 2: if Ozzie's not going to hit and he's not going

545
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Speaker 2: to get on base and he plays worse defense than

546
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Speaker 2: we Maryfield and he's slower than with Maryfield, like, what

547
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Speaker 2: do you have at that point? It's is it's been

548
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Speaker 2: a bad first ten days since he's come back, and

549
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Speaker 2: who knows. I mean, I think there is probably some

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Speaker 2: argument for you keep getting him at bats and hope

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Speaker 2: that he settles in because he missed almost two full

552
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Speaker 2: months with the injury. That's a lot to come back from.

553
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Speaker 2: But but but it is, it is not great, and

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Speaker 2: I would not bat him second because it feels like

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's arguably the most important position in

556
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Speaker 2: the lineup analytics speaking, and when you have maybe your

557
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: sixth best hitter in the order badding second, you're going

558
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: to feel it. And even if he is kind of

559
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: your more traditional number two hitter, it's not nineteen ninety

560
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Speaker 2: five anymore where your middle infielder has to bat second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll move on from this, but we are

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Speaker 1: definitely in agreement with nothing else that according to what

563
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Speaker 1: we know. We'll get into this in a second, like

564
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Speaker 1: the Mets are probably going to start two righties if

565
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Speaker 1: these if both games matter, the guys that are lined

566
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Speaker 1: up for them are both right handed pitchers. We think

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Speaker 1: we definitely agree you cannot hit Ozzie second on Monday,

568
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Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean it's not going to do it.

569
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Speaker 1: But if it's up to us. That's the one thing

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Speaker 1: that I think it's kind of the bare minimum. It's

571
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Speaker 1: just move him down. That's that's an easy thing. It's

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Speaker 1: it's less drastic than the taking him out of the

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Speaker 1: lineup altogether. If you want to kind of thread a needle,

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Speaker 1: just do not hit him second against righties, and maybe

575
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Speaker 1: we'll do this whole conversation. In typical fashion. Hill Bomb

576
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Speaker 1: in his first play appearance on the product, that'd could

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Speaker 1: be cool with us. I'm just saying walk off.

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Speaker 2: Asie Albis hit guaranteed in the seven guess I guess

579
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Speaker 2: the writing too, just to top it all off, and

580
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Speaker 2: then he pulls from his back pocket and clips us

581
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Speaker 2: off on national TV. Yeah, totally, And that's fine man.

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Speaker 2: If that's that's how it takes me to win, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: But no, I mean, I think in all seriousness, we

584
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Speaker 2: will see. I'm curious to see if there's any kind

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Speaker 2: of change. I'm leaning towards no. But in the biggest

586
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Speaker 2: I mean, we have seen in recent years the Braves

587
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Speaker 2: have altered the lineup in the playoffs to I think

588
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: the dismay of a lot of folks on the show

589
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Speaker 2: of you you know you've had this regular lineup for

590
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Speaker 2: in prior years basically every day for six months, and

591
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Speaker 2: and then the playoffs come around and all of a

592
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: sudden they're moving pieces and it's like, WHOA, what are

593
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: you doing? Don't you know? If it's not broke, don't

594
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: fix it. It is broke in this case, or it's

595
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: at least worth trying to fix, and we will see.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Scott, it's that faiful time when we talk about

597
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Speaker 1: Monday in some depth.

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00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, let's begin with the starting pitching and logistics. As

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Speaker 1: we said it before, but it's two games to win

601
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: one for the Braves, they gotta play both of them

602
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: no matter what. But if you win the first one,

603
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: the second one just a big celebration. And all you're

604
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: trying to do if you win the first one is

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00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: just get through the second one, save your best pitchers,

606
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: all those things. But we cannot do a podcast between games.

607
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: There's not enough time, so we'll just say that out.

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00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: I'll allowed now. Game one is going to be special Swamenbach.

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Speaker 1: They've announced that all indications are if the Braves were

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Speaker 1: to lose Game one, it will be Chris Sale in

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Speaker 1: game two. Because the Braves have said multiple times this

612
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Speaker 1: week that they were saving Sale for a win or

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Speaker 1: go home basically situation, and that the only time that

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Speaker 1: will happen this week maybe is the second game on Monday.

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Speaker 1: The Mets have not announce their starters at this point,

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Speaker 1: either one of them. It seems like Sevenino's gonna pitch

617
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Speaker 1: one of them for New York. The Mets beat writers

618
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Speaker 1: that we can find are projecting him to pitch Game one,

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Speaker 1: but not in any official capacity as a recording his

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Speaker 1: podcast eight pm Eastern time. They could do what the

621
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Speaker 1: bridge you're doing with Sale and hold him. The other

622
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Speaker 1: option is Tyler McGill, who people so basically the Mets

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Speaker 1: what people that are smaller than us around the Mets

624
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Speaker 1: The Mets Up podcast, we do it across over with this week.

625
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Speaker 1: They're beat writers. They're all guessing it's some combination of

626
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Speaker 1: Saver Reino McGill both Righty's not like the I mean,

627
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Speaker 1: Severna is pretty famous but not dominant. Guys everyone they've

628
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: had a good year, but they're both pretty good pitchers.

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Speaker 1: Not a massive advantage for swallow Back. If it's Sale

630
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Speaker 1: then that's an advantage. But anything strike you about either

631
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Speaker 1: one of them that's like worth noting because obviously it's

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Speaker 1: going to be high profile, and you know you presumably

633
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Speaker 1: ever will be on a short leash in this game

634
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Speaker 1: on both sides because they're kind of especially game one,

635
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Speaker 1: it's I must win for both teams. But what are

636
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Speaker 1: you what are you envisioning?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's fascinating. I was just thinking about

638
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: how you manage game one because both teams very clearly

639
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: want to win Game one. Oh yes, especially if it's

640
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Speaker 2: Tyler McGill against Spencer Schwellenbach, which is I think maybe

641
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Speaker 2: the I guess, I don't know. We'll see what New

642
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: York does. But the clear advantage for both teams if

643
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: you don't have to pitch Sale and you don't have

644
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: to pitch Severino, you have them for game one on

645
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: Tuesday in the wild Card round, but you got to

646
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: get there first. And I would love to know what's

647
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: being said on the team plane for the Mets right now,

648
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: because they have a real decision to make, and they

649
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: know because based on what the Braves have done, they

650
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: know for a fact that Schwalenbach is Game one and

651
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: Sale the cy Young winner is going to be Game two.

652
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: I wonder if that factors into their decision making where

653
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: maybe New York really tries like pushes every button imaginable

654
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: for game one, which is kind of the opposite of

655
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: what the Braves are going to do, at least in

656
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: terms of their starter. I mean, it's we could probably

657
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: have an hour long discussion on the pros and cons,

658
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: but you know, we've seen several Reno a few times

659
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: this year. Got hit pretty hard a week ago in

660
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: game one of the game on Tuesday Night, and Tyler

661
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: McGill was injured for a while. But he's been very

662
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: good in the month of September. I believe his era

663
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: is below two across five starts, and you know, he's

664
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: he's a somebody. I mean, this is not New York

665
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: throwing a triple A guy out to the Wolves. So

666
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: it is going to be fascinating to see how it

667
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: all plays out. And you know, there's again there's that

668
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: real fine line of playing for both the wild card

669
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: but also trying to win one of these two games,

670
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: and both teams know that depending on who wins Game one,

671
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: that team is not going to care literally at all

672
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: about Game two other than maybe you know, clubhouse bragging rights.

673
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: So it's going to be very, very interesting to see

674
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: what these two teams decide to do.

675
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, game two become at least for the Braves the

676
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: Mets in theory, if they for some reason would just

677
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: rather be the five seed, they could still try in

678
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: game two. Not they wouldn't try super hard on them.

679
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: Think they're not going to pitch Severino if they hold him,

680
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: but like they might have some incentive if they decide

681
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: they'd rather win the game literally means nothing. If the

682
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Rays win game won, they are locked into the five seed,

683
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: there's nothing that changes whatsoever, and then it's just get

684
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: through the game. But yeah, I mean the Braves already

685
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: made their decision in some respects and how they're gonna

686
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: approach the game one, like since Friday, I mean, Snip basically

687
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: said to the media Thursday when they announced Free we're

688
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: gonna pitch Friday that they were gonna hold Sale, And

689
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: there's this shroud of mystery, like is Sale one hundred

690
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: percent healthy? All these things because of the way the

691
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: last start went with Sale. And we're not trying to

692
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: be negative, it's just because the last time we saw

693
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: Chris Sale, he was not one hundred percent and that

694
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: just causes some not saying a ton some level of

695
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: like what's going on here? The Rays have been saying

696
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: all the right things. They're just trying to hold their

697
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: guy for the end. And that's fine. Uh even fighting

698
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: in loved in the first place, it's worked. But Schwamuck's

699
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: been pitching great. So it's not like I'm uncomfortable Schwambak

700
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: on the mound. He is a rookie, yes, but he's

701
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: pitched in a bunch of big spots. This is the

702
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: biggest spot, to be sure. But he's done the job.

703
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: He's not like shrunk at all. He's been comfortable. He's

704
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: been really good. So he just pitched great against the Mets,

705
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: the same team on Tuesday. We did that crossover badcast

706
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: after the game, and the Mets guys were like, hey,

707
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: so well I'm not really good. I'm like, yeah, I know,

708
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: he's really good. So I felt good about that. The

709
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: only other thing that I would want to bring up,

710
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: other than like line up stuff with Ozzie, which where

711
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: I talked about is not trying to be a downer,

712
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: but you got to pitch. You gotta navigate two games,

713
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: and that is always at tax in your bullpen, right

714
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: and you're pitching depth in general, especially when we're back

715
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: to that toeing the line thing about you got to

716
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: play the next day. If the Braves advanced, they got

717
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: to play the next day and the next day and

718
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: the next day, and they can't worry about that. But

719
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: it is a factor. They've been able to hold their

720
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: best guys out the last couple of days.

721
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: That's really good.

722
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: There's not been I mean, at least not hold them

723
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: out entirely, but like, for instance, today a Glacis was

724
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: off him and As was off Like those guys will

725
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: be fresh right, but it's hard to pitch guys twice

726
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: in the same day. It's not unpressented, but it's hard

727
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: to do. I this is maybe just me that's bothered

728
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: by this. I don't know why they threw Grant Holmes today,

729
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: and I get it he pitched really well. Not about Grant,

730
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: but he got five outs. He's the long reliever on

731
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: the team. He's been starting for them. You have a

732
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: double header tomorrow and by the way, you might have

733
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: a full on bullpen game on Tuesday, and you use

734
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: your long reliever today get five outs. I don't really

735
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: understand that, especially because I'm not trying to be negative.

736
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: Scott but I'll ask you this, what happens if Speciers

737
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: Schwallenbach has a blow up in the first inning of

738
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: Game one, they don't have a bulk guy yeah, to

739
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: pitch like Grant Holmes is gonna be. I'm sure he'll

740
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: be able to pitch tomorrow. But he's not throwing four

741
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: innings after he pitched today. That's not happening. I don't

742
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: think Jesse Chavez like you just wear it like you

743
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: how do you now? I'm not trying again, I'm not

744
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: trying to be negative, but when you got to get

745
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: through two games, this is something I think about because oh,

746
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: one more thing we should say out wowd and then

747
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: I'll let you answer. There's no extra pitcher in this scenario.

748
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: I know most of the year you get the free

749
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: twenty seventh man. It's it's always a pitcher. You bring

750
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: a guy up for death purposes at the end of August,

751
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: that stops happening because you already have an expanded roster.

752
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: So like there's no cavalry coming automatically where you could

753
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: just call up Bryce Elder or a Spithshav or whoever

754
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: to be that guy for you. Now there's some rosters

755
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: off you could do, which I'll let you weigh in

756
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: on if you want to. But at the moment, they

757
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: don't really have a natural like break glass in this

758
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: case of emergency long man to pitch in game one

759
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: or game two if they had to get.

760
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, I mean, I think they could figure it out.

761
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, well, to answer your first question, if Schwellenback

762
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: gets destroyed in game one, what I mean, I want

763
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: to be all open the tequila bottle at two in

764
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: the afternoon because well.

765
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: Well, just though, do you just pumpt do you just

766
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: punt like okay, let's say it's six nothing at the

767
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: end of the first inning. Do you just say, all right, Jesse,

768
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: take us home or Samon gonna sale for the night game?

769
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: Or do you you know? Or do you try to

770
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: hold it there and try to make come back. Obviously

771
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: you're always trying to come back. But you know what

772
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's there's there's punting and not punting

773
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: in that aspect. Maybe if it's four, I'm not there's

774
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: degrees here. It's hard to anticipate in the situation, but

775
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: it's it's so complicated because it's two games and it's

776
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: the next day and I think that's the smallest calculation

777
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: is being ready to go on Tuesday, because you just

778
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: got to get there first. But in my mind, there's

779
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: gotta be a little bit of like, all right, man,

780
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna kill ourselves before this, before this playoff series.

781
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's so weird.

782
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I would assume that that Holmes should

783
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: be available tomorrow if they absolutely needed him. Jesse Chavez

784
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: can go multiple innings. Luke Jackson can go multiple innings.

785
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Bummer has I think has gone more than an inning.

786
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: Dylan Lee can do it. So there are ways to

787
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: kind of figure it out. The one twice games well,

788
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if both Schwellendack and Sale both get literated,

789
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna go m I A for three weeks.

790
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: But there is something we should talk about on the show,

791
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: because there is a world where the Braves make another

792
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: roster move on Monday, and it involves Charlie Morton and Brad.

793
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: I'll kind of tee up from there, but it would

794
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: it would involve removing Charlie Morton from the active roster,

795
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: which would also remove Charlie from the active roster for

796
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: both the wildcard round and the division round, I believe,

797
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: So let's at least speak about this in case the

798
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: roster move happens on Monday morning. Ole extra credit Steven,

799
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: who's been talking about this offline to us, it would

800
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: probably be a phantom I L. I don't think that

801
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna just dfa Charlie Morton, Like, that's not gonna happen.

802
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: But you could phantom I L Charlie and create a spot.

803
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: That way, you wouldn't have Charlie anymore. But the reason

804
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: why this is coming up, and we're not like suggesting

805
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: this is going to happen or that it's likely, is

806
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: that if you look ahead, there isn't a lot of

807
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: use for Charlie for a while, Like he can't realistically

808
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: pitch in the wild card round other than maybe in

809
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: a relief effort, which he hasn't really done much of

810
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: for a very long time. He's four years old, all

811
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: those things. Because he pitched today, so he couldn't pitch

812
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: again until Friday, and that's the next series if you

813
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: get there. Uh, and by that point you're hopefully resetting.

814
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: And as much as I love him, he's their fifth

815
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: starter right now, and generally you don't use five starters

816
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you use four if that sometimes sometimes

817
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: it's three. So maybe you piggyback him and use him

818
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: with with Rinaldo or something down the stretch. That might happen.

819
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: Let's saying he has no use at all, but if

820
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: you're trying to be cold and calculated, he doesn't help

821
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: you in the log card round. So if there was

822
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: a way, we're not getting the era of the league

823
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: to subtly I l him or whatever, that's an idea

824
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: to do, to create to create a rock spot, to

825
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: bring somebody else up that has a fresh arm for

826
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: the next couple of days. Smith shauber Elder, whoever you

827
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: want to say it is, Man, I hope it's not older.

828
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: Uh sorry, Bryce, I mean you said it earlier. You

829
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: said it earlier, didn't you.

830
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's sorry, Bryce. This is it's definitely

831
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: far fetched, but it is.

832
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: Well, there's a way that's it's not it's far fetched

833
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: that we should talk about. Like they could just option

834
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: Day's Bell like he has an option, like Grant Holmes

835
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: doesn't have an option. He's good anyway, but like he

836
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: pitched today, they could dfa Jesse, which they're not gonna do.

837
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't think just for the vibes like you could argue,

838
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: I would argue much more seriously for dfaing Jesse or

839
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: Luke Jackson personally, but they're not going to do that.

840
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't think for the same reason, like just the

841
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: vibes based. I can't imagine a team with Brian ry

842
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: Snicker would probably lay down in front of Alex's door

843
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning before he let them DFA Jesse on the

844
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: eve of this.

845
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that happening.

846
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll maybe I'll be wrong, or they just go

847
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: to Jesse and like Jesse, we need to do this

848
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: as solid. We're gonnadfa you. But I think if they

849
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: make a roster move, it'll be Day's Bell being optioned.

850
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: That's my best guess. Do you disagree?

851
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: No, I mean I think that's probably right. I'm gonna

852
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: guess they don't ultimately do anything with the roster tomorrow

853
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: because I mean, again, is it impossible that Schwellenbach and

854
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: Sale both get lit up. No, it's not impossible, I guess,

855
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: But overall, I think they just run it back. You

856
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: hope that Schwellenbach gives them another good start. The bullpen

857
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: has really not had to pitch a ton over the

858
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: last week because of the rain ounce and all that.

859
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: So I think the Braves will just kind of keep

860
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 2: it as is and just take it truly inning by

861
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: inning and see how it goes, and with a little

862
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: bit of luck, after nine innings they will be victorious.

863
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: And then everybody can get one of those little like

864
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: mini glasses of champagne that they serve at dinner functions,

865
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: and everybody can drink that in the dugout while the

866
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: second game happens. I have one more question logistically on

867
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: Monday that I'll ask you that we didn't prep for

868
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: so apologies.

869
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: We are for people that are new listeners. We are

870
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: very much a proponent generally speak. I don't want to

871
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: speak for you, but I think we agree on this

872
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: of like being quite aggressive with your pitching plan in

873
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: playoff scenarios, like not leaving starters in too long, all

874
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: that stuff, like it's it's a different world in the playoffs,

875
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: and functionally Monday begins the playoffs for the Braves. It's

876
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: not a playoff game, but it is. Yeah, I say

877
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: all that, how short of the leash would you have

878
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: Spencer on in game one, just because you do have

879
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: the backsup of a Sale in game two, but you

880
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: have the bullpen concern the the bullpen almost say concerns,

881
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: but like limitations, like you don't want to if you

882
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: could help it, you don't want to light your bullpen

883
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: on fire in game one. So obviously we can't be

884
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: specific right now without knowing, But would you treat Spencer

885
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: like it's a playoff game, which means like, by the

886
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: end of the third inning, you're like kind of on

887
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: fins and needles, because that's generally how I feel out

888
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: the playoff, especially for like non super aces, is that

889
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: once you get to the second time through the order,

890
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: it starts to be a little bit dicey. Would you

891
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: do that or would you kind of treat this like

892
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: a pretty normal start for Spencer.

893
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: I would treat it somewhere in the middle where I mean,

894
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: I obviously playoff games get managed differently. I wouldn't go

895
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: that extreme just because you do have the backup of

896
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: game one sixty two in game two, say that things

897
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: are not going well. You know that you have Chris

898
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: Sale and you have a Mets team with nothing to

899
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: really play for, and Lindor would sit out, and Alonso

900
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: would sit out and Nemo would sit out. So I know,

901
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: I mean at the first glance of trouble in the

902
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: third inning for Schwellenbach, am I moving heaven and earth

903
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: to get the bullpen in. No, But it's also a

904
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: situation where obviously Brian Snitker needs to be aware of

905
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: the importance of the game and the importance of not

906
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: having to play game two with anything on the line,

907
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: because stuff happens, as we saw today and against a

908
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 2: Royals team that really didn't have much to play for either.

909
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: So to answer your question, no, I would not overmanage

910
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 2: the game. I would just kind of keep I mean,

911
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: maybe every cranet sit next to the bullpen phone so

912
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: you are ready to go at a moment's notice. But no,

913
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: I would not be as extreme as you know you

914
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: say hard, he's gonna face the lineup once, or he's

915
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 2: gonna face the lineup twice and then you pull him,

916
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: because there is the balancing act of you don't necessarily

917
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: want to have to burn every single arm in your

918
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: bullpen in game one, especially if it hangs in the balance,

919
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: which is is another kind of interesting wrinkle, like just

920
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: how hard do you push you know. The easy answer

921
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: is the Brave score nine runs, and it doesn't really I.

922
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: Was gonna say a lot of it's game standing. We

923
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: just can't answer that right now. But like if it's

924
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: if you're up, if you're up five to nothing, you

925
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: treat it differently. Then if it's one nothing or you're

926
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: down one nothing or whatever, it's gonna be like that's

927
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: I we agree. I think it's somewhere in the middle

928
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: in a vacuum, which is all we have right now,

929
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: is that I would be more aggressive than snit typically

930
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: is with his pictures given these stakes. But also I

931
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: don't think it's full on playoff mode because of what

932
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: you said. I do think that once you get through

933
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: the second time with the order, I think unless he is,

934
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean at that point first base runner for me

935
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: is probably that's probably it. And the third time for

936
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: the order, I mean because the penalty they's been one.

937
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: I know people don't believe in this, but the numbers

938
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: tell you over and over and over again. Third time

939
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: for the order, every pitcher's worse. Everyone, even the elite

940
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: guys are worse, but especially the not elite especially it

941
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: has been really good, but he's not elite at this point,

942
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say so once. I'm not saying you have

943
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: to take him out right away, like, but any sign

944
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: of trouble passed the second time of your order, I

945
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: would be h in the bullpen.

946
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: Let's just say.

947
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: And also, this is stuff that we can't possibly know,

948
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: and we always acknowledge that when there are things that

949
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: we can't possibly know. The Braves know which relievers on

950
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: their team that might be able to go twice in

951
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: the same day, and we don't really know that, Like

952
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: do they think that Ryce Sell can pitch in both games?

953
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: I have no idea, same with it, And and they're

954
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: not gonna tell us because you know, usually you in

955
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: a normal situation, you would never want to pitch a

956
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: reliever twice in the same day because I know it

957
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: sounds like it's the same day, but there's three hours

958
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: between appearances. Four hours. I mean, it's not normal at

959
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 1: all for a guy to warm up, pitch, warm down,

960
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: warm back up, and pitch in the same day. It

961
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: doesn't really happen that way. So can they do that?

962
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: Who can do that? We don't know. You know, homes

963
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: like limits on homes and day's beell guys, to pitch today.

964
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: Can they go tomorrow? Probably? But they pitched more than

965
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: an inning day's bill and Holmes did so, like does

966
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: that usually that would be like kind of a stay

967
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: away the next day. If if the guy throws two innings,

968
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: it's like not anymore, Like they probably got to pitch tomorrow.

969
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: So there's always stuff we just can't possibly know. And

970
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: obviously the brand's not gonna be rushing to tell us

971
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: because they want to maintain that advantage.

972
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking at the box score. I don't

973
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: believe anybody pitched both Saturday and Sunday, so presumably everyone's available.

974
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: And I mean I would know you in a I mean,

975
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: unless someone had pitched three days in a row, I

976
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: would argue that everybody is available.

977
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: And they went on this route hole today with somebody

978
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: in my mention. And I wasn't trying to be like

979
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: difficult bring out the Holmes thing, like I was more confused,

980
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: not that he's gonna be unavailable tomorrow, but I do

981
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: think that Grant Hole's pitching today means he can't for

982
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: four innings tomorrow. That's kind of all I was saying

983
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: about it, Like that's it's a very very minor thing,

984
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: and I understand that, but I'm just thinking about doubleheader.

985
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: And you know, let's say you get down for whatever reason,

986
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: big like you usually would throw your your long guy

987
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: and say, all right, take us home. And they can't

988
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: really do that as easily when he pitched twenty something

989
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: pitches today.

990
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, I mean yes, and I think

991
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: maybe they can't. I don't know.

992
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the playoffs, and you just and again I'm

993
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: saying playoffs. It is the playoffs functionally for the Braves.

994
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just all right, Grant leave it out there

995
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: for us, please, so you know, we could do scenarios

996
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: all day long. Game one is the big one. Hopefully

997
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: it's all settled by the time Game one is over.

998
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: You could.

999
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: The Braves have been pretty clear about this. If they

1000
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: win game one, Game two is going to be They're

1001
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: not going to say this, but sales on pitching game two.

1002
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: If they win game one, we all kind of understand

1003
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: that sale will be held till Tuesday. And I would

1004
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: love to do a lot. We're not gonna do this

1005
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: because I have to work and so you and everybody else,

1006
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: but it'd be fun to do a live game two

1007
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: podcast only if they won game one, wouldn't that be fun?

1008
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: Just like the schodenfreud of what game two might be

1009
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: if they win game one? Again, if they win game one,

1010
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: because they're not huge favorites.

1011
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: Winning game one takes the edge off of everything. Of course,

1012
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: here they're in the playoffs, and let's hope. I know

1013
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 2: we've probably spent the last fifteen minutes talking about more

1014
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: negative scenarios than positive ones. Let's hope the Braves, after

1015
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: a pretty disappointing weekend offensively at least now winning two

1016
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: out of three and all the help they got from

1017
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: New York in Arizona on Friday and Saturday was awesome,

1018
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: like ninety ninth percentile in terms of I mean, you

1019
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: said it perfectly. It was a perfect scenario for the

1020
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: team on Friday and Saturday. Obviously that was not perfect

1021
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: on Sunday. But you told me a week ago that

1022
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: the Braves would have a chance to win one out

1023
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: of two games, and they were in the playoffs. Even

1024
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: if the travels kind of funky, even if maybe the

1025
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: pitching isn't lined up perfectly, just get into the playoffs

1026
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: and see what happens. You never know, and you know

1027
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: The other side of this would be an Arizona fan

1028
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: where you're hoping that one of these two teams wins

1029
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: both sweeps. Yeah, when one of them guaranteed will have

1030
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: nothing to play for after game one. If you're looking

1031
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: for the silver lining or the bright side or being optimistic,

1032
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 2: the Braves control their own fate. They have two games

1033
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: at home with probably their two best starting pitchers in

1034
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: the second half in terms of performance, with Schwellenbach and Sale.

1035
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: Obviously Max Freed is awesome, but just from a statistical standpoint,

1036
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: Schwellenbach and Sale have both been like top ten starters

1037
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: since June. It's not like they're having to start Grant

1038
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: Holmes in game one and Charlie Morton in game two.

1039
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: Things are lined up about as well as they can be,

1040
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: and you just have to hope they go out there.

1041
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 2: They take care of business in game one. But even

1042
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: if they don't win game one and they end up

1043
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: winning Game two behind Chris Sale, you're in the playoffs.

1044
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: You see what happens. San Diego is a good team,

1045
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: but they are I mean, you know, weird things happen

1046
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: come October in the playoffs, and you just got to

1047
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: get there first.

1048
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully twenty four hours from now, some combination of

1049
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: the four of us is doing a podcast to wrap

1050
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: up Monday and preview the plotteries.

1051
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: We're all hoping for that.

1052
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: There are positive scenarios, like obviously, if they get a

1053
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: comfortable win in Game one, you know, it's just a

1054
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: say everybody in Game two, Luke and Luke and Jesse,

1055
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: it's it's just a it's it's just a parade. It's

1056
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: a lot of fun and Game two. And also, you know,

1057
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: I want to be careful not to overrate the nothing

1058
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: to play for thing, because we've seen in baseball, like

1059
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: guys are gonna try, and like the Diamondbacks lost a

1060
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: couple games this weekend, two team with nothing to play for.

1061
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: The Braves lost a game today, two team with nothing

1062
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 1: to play for. So like, it's not like the team,

1063
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: it's not like to go the sport that I cover. Also,

1064
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: in basketball, you can sit your best players and pretty

1065
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: much automatically lose. If you want to just sit your

1066
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: best players, the drop off in basketball, or like in

1067
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: the NFL, if you want to rest your quarterback, that's

1068
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: a ten point line of whatever it's gonna be. In baseball,

1069
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: it's not quite bad. So whoever's playing is going to

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00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: be trying. So in that disaster scenario with brads Low's

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00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: Game one, it's like it's gonna be a layup, but

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00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: the ace and the whole, the actual race in the

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00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: whole Chris Sale kind of helps to live with Plainfield.

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Speaker 1: So I feel okay, Well, I feel okay at one

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00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: point thirty tomorrow. Who's to say, Scott. But at this moment,

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Speaker 1: after talking this through with you for fifty minutes or so,

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Speaker 1: my analytical side is taking over two chances to win

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00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: one game. I believe that brands are gonna be favored

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00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: in each game individually, and if you combine those two outcomes,

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00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: probability wise, you are a big favorite to win one

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00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: of them. That is what I'll be telling myself as

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00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: I try to go to bed tonight and I'm unable

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00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: to sleep. Yeah, Braves, our favorite game.

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Speaker 2: There might be some restless sleep for all of us tonight.

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00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: Massive games on the Horizon. You're right, these are basically

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00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: playoff games. It's a little weird because it's like a

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00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: best of two, and in the case of going one

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00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 2: and one, everybody is happy.

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00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: Everybody wins. Yeah, Diamondbacks man, I your worrier Zone Diamondbacks

1090
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: as we make that joke for the seventeenth consecutive episode.

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00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: But uh, I would hate to be the Diamondbacks right now.

1092
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: And it's their own fault. They they skidd it this week.

1093
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: It's it's entirely on them. We can joke around about

1094
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: like some of the stuff that's been said that, like

1095
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: they had so many chances to ensure their playoff destiny

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00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: and they did not take advantage of them this week,

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00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: So it's their fault. But man, it would be brutally

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00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: be a Diamondbacks fan have to root you have no

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00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: interest in the first game at all, really, and it's like,

1100
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: all right, who was the first game we want you

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Speaker 1: to wig in?

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Speaker 2: Yay, I will say, on the point of nothing to

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00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 2: play for, let's let's say this bread Braves win Game one,

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Speaker 2: Braves win Game two, and eliminate the Mets from the playoffs.

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00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: That would be not not now we're now, now that

1106
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: people are already logged off the podcast, our actual thought

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00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: about this, Sorry to the Mets Up podcast. Our new

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: friends who we met on Tuesday, I mean, Steven had

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00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: had a good time with those guys. They're nice guys.

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Speaker 1: I will say that there will be a twinkling in

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00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: my heart if the Braves can eliminate the Mets in

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00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: game two, that would be very nice.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's it's a secondary concern. As much as I do

1115
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: not like the Mets and never have in my entire life. Playoffs,

1116
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: playoffs get into playoffs is number one by a wide margin.

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00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: But once that's done, if it is, give me the

1118
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: Mets out would be uh, would be nice to be

1119
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: a nice cheer on top of Braisemans. At least make

1120
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: them really sweat, like timing Runner in the bottom of

1121
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: the ninth, whether the Braves, whether it matters or not,

1122
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: because let's hope again, Braves take game one. Chris Sale

1123
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: is getting u mentally locked in for game one of

1124
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: a wild card round with the Padres. Schwellenbach is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Offense wakes up or at least just does enough to

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00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: get a win. Let us kind of speak it into existence.

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00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: It's say two.

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Speaker 2: Games you need to win one at home. Pitching is

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00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: lined up, it is. The Mets have had a pretty

1130
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: crazy travel scheduled the last couple of days. There are

1131
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 2: a lot of things working in Atlanta's favor and god man,

1132
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: let's hope they find a way to win. If not

1133
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: game one, then game two, because this team making the

1134
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: playoffs in and of itself. Even if this team makes

1135
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Speaker 2: the playoffs and then gets crushed by San Diego for

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00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: two games, which would suck, Don't get me wrong. I'm

1137
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,479
Speaker 2: not gonna sit here and say, oh, it's all fine.

1138
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 2: It would suck no matter when the Braves get eliminated

1139
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: from the playoffs. It's always a sad day. But just

1140
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: making the postseason for this team that has had to

1141
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: overcome so much since literally the fifth inning of Opening Day,

1142
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: would be an incredible accomplishment, especially with how good the

1143
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: top half of the National League has been this year.

1144
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: I just like to think that this team finds a

1145
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: way to win tomorrow, gets into the playoffs, and then

1146
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 2: just you know, roll the dice and see what happens,

1147
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: because that is very much playoff baseball.

1148
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: We are on the sad page for sure. It would

1149
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: be awesome if they got in. We will cover it,

1150
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: win or lose. That is something we pret ourselves on

1151
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: on this podcast. If things go terribly terribly wrong on Monday,

1152
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: we'll slove a podcast. We're not gonna bail everybody. We're

1153
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: going to be there. It will be somber for sure,

1154
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: but it will be there and hopefully it will not

1155
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: be that way, and we'll have plan to discuss in

1156
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: the next few days. Scott, working, folks who might be

1157
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: finding us for the first time, happen to find your

1158
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: work beyond this podcast.

1159
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am at Scott Coleman fifty five on Twitter.

1160
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: We appreciate everybody tuning in, whether you're on YouTube, which

1161
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,600
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1162
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: great feedback, so please do subscribe to the YouTube feed,

1163
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,360
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1164
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: Hop up, especially if you are, especially if you are

1165
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: We've been told the best that you can do is

1166
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,000
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1167
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: but please also download the show on audio if you

1168
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,840
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Speaker 2: Us that way. I'd be reglu appreciated. Yeah, it is

1170
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: an entirely free podcast. We don't ask for basically anything

1171
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: other than a follow and or a like or whatever

1172
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: it is. But yeah, we'll be here rain or shine,

1173
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: let's hope it is shining on Monday night. And then

1174
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: there's a whole much more of baseball on the horizon

1175
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 2: for this team. But yeah, a bummer that we could

1176
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: not do the celebratory show tonight. But twenty four hours

1177
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: from now, let's say that we're let's hope that we're

1178
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 2: talking about the Padres and another fun series on the horizon.

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00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you should be following Scott on his Twitter

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00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: feed as well. Follow our show on social media at

1181
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: Hammer Territory. We are on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook.

1182
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: One day we've got TikTok Scott, not today though, one

1183
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: day perhaps on TikTok for the show. Please follow me too,

1184
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,759
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1185
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Speaker 1: play on today's episode. Please subscribe to the show. Please

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00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,760
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1187
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1188
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Speaker 1: Rings and Reviews, and stay tuned. We will have a

1189
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: show on Monday evening. Hopefully it's an upbeat show. Stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. We'll see you all next time.