1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Rod an Adian. You start to go through the diagnostic routine. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: You take it apart, piece by piece. You're working on 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: that system, bad perch, shoot through wiring, animal or debris 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: or bugs or whatever you want to call it inside 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: the canister. And then you come back and ask yourself 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: the question, how long was it like this? 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: Doe me what you h that? 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: Be says to the car Doctor. So it's only when 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: temperature gets above a certain point, have you disconnected with 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: the actuators and placed the bulb across them? 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: Have not? 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of my corrosion. That maybe what I'm looking at. 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron an Anian, the 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion and 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: non automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signals, 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: are opening, but I am here to take your calls 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six hundred and now pee 20 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: running well. I see that the phones are lit up 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: and backed up. Eight five five five six zero nine 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. What kind of a mood is run 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: in this hour? I don't know let's see Harry in Vegas. 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Let's start here. Harry. Welcome to the car, doctor, sir. 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: How can I help hi? 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Doctor? 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, got two vehicles bought you and one day 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: two thousand tahoe four will drive. Got about one hundred 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: and twenty thousand miles on the second engine, which I 30 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: bought brand new over the counter at Chevrolet. And the 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: weird thing it's doing is this. It's got a thirty 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 2: gallons gas tanks. It's three it's a five seven engine, 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: which I think is three fifth right, yep, yeah, okay, 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: And that thing burned in town, burns about a quart 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: of oil. Ever, every seven eight nine tanks of gas? 36 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: How many miles? How many miles is that? Harry? 37 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty Wow? 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, how many? And how many? 39 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: No? 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: No, how many miles? You know that that's seven tanks 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: of fuel? What is that? Five hundred miles? Nine hundred miles. 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: A thousand I'm getting about I think close to three 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: hundred miles of tank and that's thirty galls. 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: So you're you're driving two thousand miles burning a quart 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: of oil. 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: In town, right, But on the highway it doesn't On 47 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: the Highway. It burns a quart of oil every two 48 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: tanks of gas. Well, listen, that's cruising. That's cruising at 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: seventy miles an hour. 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: At least it's consistent. So I wonder what would happen. 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: I always think about crank case pressure whenever I hear this. 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: And this is a real quick, simple thing to try. 53 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to fix it, but we'll 54 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: both feel better because we know we tried something. Is 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: what if you pull the dipstick out of the tube 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: so it sits out about a half inch, relieve some relief, 57 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: some crank case pressure. Does that make a change? 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: You know? 59 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: And then you know, looking at or considering crank case 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: ventilation system, do we have something restricted stuck? Has it 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: been this way since new? I mean how long ago 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: is the engine swapped? 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Now? You swapped about I don't know, six seven years ago? Okay, 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: so you just started doing it in about the last 65 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: maybe a year and a half two, right, And. 66 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you were good about oil changes. 67 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, excellent? Right, I actually break the place in 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: the PCB valve too. 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: Right, So and you're using a good quality part, right, 70 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: I always have to throw that in just to make 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: sure right, yep, you know, But do we have a 72 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: crank case? Do we have a crank case issue? Do 73 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: we have stickier stuck oil rings? If we want to 74 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: go for magic in a bottle, you know, take a 75 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: look at the hot Shot Secret website, take a look 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: at some of their additives. Stiction eliminator comes to mind. 77 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: Do we have and keep in mind, you're gonna tell 78 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: me Ron, the inside of the engine looks spotlessly clean, 79 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: because I'm sure you've already looked. You've either pulled a 80 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: valve cover, you've looked inside the breather tube or some 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: such thing. But stiction which is at first I thought 82 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: it was a magical word, like who made this up? 83 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: But it's actually true for diesels. For example, Ford actually 84 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: and Ford actually supports Hotshot Secret with stition eliminator. They 85 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: make it part of the repair process for the seven 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: point three liter diesels because of issues with oil getting 87 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: gummy and sticky and binding the and creating injector flow 88 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: problems and things like that. I can tell you that 89 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: Stiiction eliminator may help this. If we've got sticky stuck 90 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: rings and we're looking to clean up the crank case. 91 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: So to speak, it sure can't hurt. It's it's it's 92 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: an it's an inexpensive attempt because the only other option 93 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: after we get through crank case breathing and we're not 94 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: able to free up rings, is where's it going? Is 95 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: it in the heads? Is it in the bottom end? 96 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: And we could spend the money and determine that, but 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: it's probably going to come down to we've got to 98 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: either pull the engine apart or swap it again. And 99 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: how much fun is that going to be? 100 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: So so, but like I said in town, it seems 101 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: to get it doesn't burn that much oil. It seems like. 102 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: Right, well, because well that's and that's that's why I 103 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: think this is a ring issue because obviously we're all 104 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: along the interstate. It's seventy seventy five miles an hour, 105 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: and let's be realistic, how many times do we really 106 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: drive at seventy five miles an hour in the interstate 107 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: where seventy five we're going in New Jersey. If you're 108 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: doing seventy five, you're going so slow the eighteen wheelers 109 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: are going to run you over. So we're being hot, 110 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: we're building higher crank case pressure, and you know, we're pressurizing, 111 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: pushing whale up past the rings usually. So that's why 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: I think I think about binding or stuck or you know, 113 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: a seized oil control ring or two or three. That's 114 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: why I come back to the stition a later concept. 115 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: But there's there's no known commonality to that, Harry. There's 116 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: nothing I can do to ease your pain there other 117 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: than those two things. And you know another engine. But 118 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: and I'm sure GM says it's out a warranty right 119 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: sixty seven years later. 120 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: So so this this product is called what. 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: Go to hotshot Secret dot com. Okay, all right, and 122 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: you want to look for stiction eliminator. 123 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: Okay, all right. I've used it. 124 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you right now. I've personally used it. 125 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: It's it's green. It looks like it looks like a 126 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: bottle of slime that the kids play with, right, but 127 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: it's it's this like fluorescent green. It really stands out. 128 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: I used it in my ninety seven Ranger. I had 129 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: a valve tick that I couldn't get rid of, and 130 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: it worked. 131 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: You know. 132 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: So I I always feel like and I'm not a 133 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: miracle drug and a can kind of mechanic. But I've 134 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: come to the point where you know, science and technology 135 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: does seem to help at times, and rather than pull 136 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: an engine, I'll try that first. If that doesn't work 137 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: and the crank case ventilation issue and the dipstick relief 138 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: doesn't do anything, and all the dipstick relief is going 139 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: to do is tell me if it's in the crank case. 140 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: If that doesn't work, well then I've got to pull 141 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: the engine apart. And I would tell you this time, 142 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: if you have one, find a local engine builder and 143 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: let them go through and either rebuild that one or 144 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: build you another motor from scratch. 145 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: So probably should I probably should have done that in 146 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: the first place. 147 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Well, there is there is something to be said. And 148 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: I've always I've always kept this in the back of 149 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: my mind. The assembly line engines are built where on 150 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: an assembly line there's no personal touch, there's there's there's 151 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: less accountability. You know, the assembly line is always happy 152 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: to give you another engine that they built on the 153 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: assembly line if the first one fails under the warranty period. 154 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: Whereas the engine builder, his reputation rides on that. And 155 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: those guys are fanatics and sticklers, the good ones who 156 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: make that work, that's their livelihood. So I would I 157 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: would tell you, you know, small town USA, find that, 158 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: find your local engine builder and support him. At least 159 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: you've got somebody to go back and talk to in 160 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: the event of a problem. 161 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm definitely going to do it that way. 162 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Second question two for a. 163 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: Nickel Okay, I got a two. Also got twenty twelve 164 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: Cadillac cts. Also about it new It's got seventy thousand 165 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: miles on it. It's got the three point seven engine right. 166 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: It developed a small head gasket leak into one of 167 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: the cylinders. It's burning the coolant. It started about I 168 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: think about a half year ago. Now I'm just wondering. 169 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: It's only got seventy thousand miles on this thing. I've 170 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: treated it almost like the baby. And uh, is there 171 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: a problem with this engine? Are you? 172 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: Are you sure it's the head gasket? 173 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. We did a combustion sniff test on it, okay. Uh, 174 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: and that's what we got the reading. And also yeah, 175 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: there's no leak, external leaking, all right, nothing in. 176 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: The get your hands on gen you got a pencil 177 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: and paper, get your hands on GM bulletin twenty two 178 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: dish Na dash. 179 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: To forty Okay, can you repeat that sure? 180 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: Twenty two dish Na dash to forty and that talks 181 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: about problems with that particular engine. And boy, Harry, I 182 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: don't know your luck. You've got to get out of Vegas, brother, 183 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: because your luck's not good. 184 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: All right, They've got I think I need a different manufacturer, Yeah. 185 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Something, because that engine has problems with block porosity, seeping 186 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: cooling through water jackets into the engine oil. So that's 187 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: why I say, are we sure it's a head gasket? 188 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: And in that case, yeah, it's you know that you're 189 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: losing coolant internally, and assuming it's a head. 190 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 2: Gasket, yeah, because it's not an oil pant, right, So. 191 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: You know, although the block porosity issue, generally you will 192 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: start to see coolant in the oil, but truth be told, 193 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: head gasket failure generally you'll start to see cooling in 194 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: the oil as well. So maybe this is you know, 195 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: if this is a head gasket issue, why can't we 196 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: pull the plugs, pressurize the cooling system overnight, let it sit, 197 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: come back in the morning and look in each cylinder, 198 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: bringing around by hand, see if we see any coolant 199 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: on top of the pistons. Let's get a borscope and 200 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: looking side right. 201 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: We did we did a combus. We did a combustion 202 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: test on the on the radiator right, all right, yeah, 203 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: that's fair. It's coming back positive. But what if if 204 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: this is got if this is the problem, which I've 205 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 2: almost sure is, what, what do you what do you 206 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: recommend as to Fitch? 207 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: Find that local engine builder, get them the building another one. 208 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Hey, Harry, can I can I try and 209 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: make your day better? Okay? If you stay on the 210 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: line after we say goodbye, give Tom, give Tom your 211 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: name and address. I'm gonna send you a card doctor 212 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: T shirt. I think you need a boost today, my friend. 213 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: Anybody that anybody that I'm about, I'm about a shot 214 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: of whiskey. 215 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Well I can't do that legally, but I can't cross 216 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: state lines. The reveneurs will come and get me. But 217 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: stay on the line and just give Tom your T 218 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: shirt size. We'll send you out a card doctor T 219 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: shirt and maybe it'll brighten your day. I'm not sure you'll, 220 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: but you'll you'll think of us when you're when you're 221 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: at the bar having an adult beverage and thinking about 222 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: your cars. I'm sorry to condemn two engines in one 223 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: one setting. So all right, sir, yeah, well, thank you, 224 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: you're very welcome. Harry, you'll be well, hey, yeah yeah, 225 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Harry better get out of Vegas. He can't. He definitely shouldn't. 226 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: Go play cards tonight A five, five, five, six zero 227 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero running any of the card doctor. 228 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. I'd ever been with 229 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: one mom