WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Great Britain

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck and Jerry's here too, sitting in for date and

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<v Speaker 1>we're all dames and lads and nights and all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff here at stuff you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I feel like this one is long overdue because

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<v Speaker 2>we have gotten a lot of email over the years

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<v Speaker 2>about us screwing up the difference between Britain and England

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<v Speaker 2>and the United Kingdom. Never again, well hopefully never again,

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully we get all this right. I do want

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<v Speaker 2>to say in our defense though, release my defense. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times I have said England for somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>was from England, and people have called me out and said,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't just say England if it's you know, Britain

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<v Speaker 2>or the UK or something, and I'm like, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>born in London, I can't say they're English.

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<v Speaker 1>What you didn't know is the person who called you

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<v Speaker 1>out's from California. Yeah, probably so, so, yeah, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get this right, and we will try

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<v Speaker 1>to continue in the future. But hey, we're only human

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<v Speaker 1>but flesh and blood some men, so we might get

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<v Speaker 1>it wrong eventually at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, So I guess we should start out by

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<v Speaker 2>saying that the UK, the United Kingdom, isn't the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing as saying Great Britain. The UK has a longer name.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the United king Officially, it's the United Kingdom of

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<v Speaker 2>Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It is, so they just

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<v Speaker 2>say UK, but it is a nation state of four countries,

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<v Speaker 2>which is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's Great Britain?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was the UK. I think we should go

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<v Speaker 1>over it three more times.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the stuff you should know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Great Britain is an actual geographical area, the physical land

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<v Speaker 1>mass that England, Scotland and Wales share the.

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<v Speaker 2>Island it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the island of well, Great Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Greece.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the UK, except Northern Ireland is not part of

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<v Speaker 1>Great Britain because it's on a different island. Right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still part of the UK, it's just not part

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<v Speaker 1>of Great Britain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Northern othern Ireland, as you would guess, is on

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<v Speaker 2>the northern tip of Ireland, just a tip also an

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<v Speaker 2>ireland next door to Great Britain. I'm so afraid we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna screw this up.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, We're not. We're not. We can read everything verbatim.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been not been as nervous in a long time

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<v Speaker 2>recording an episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we've got Great Britain. It's an island. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an island off the coast of.

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<v Speaker 2>Mainland Europe, a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>England, Scotland and Wales all share it. So to the

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<v Speaker 1>west of Great Britain, as we said, is Ireland a

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<v Speaker 1>different island. And there's Northern Ireland and.

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<v Speaker 2>We are doing this sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that there's Northern Ireland and in Ireland

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<v Speaker 1>is that Ireland broke away from the British Crown in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty two. Northern Ireland said no, We're going to stay,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why Northern Ireland is part of the United

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<v Speaker 1>Kingdom as well. That's Great Britain, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. We have another term that we need to mention,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the British Isles. Also, a geographical term can

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<v Speaker 2>be a little dodgy as far as I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure like how controversial it is controversial. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so these islands are they're like there are thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>these islands off the coast of northwest Europe, a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of them, like you know, the Channel Islands, the Isle

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<v Speaker 2>of Man. I guess I'm just boy, I'm very bravely

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<v Speaker 2>going out on a limb and saying the Isle of Wight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty brave. I would not do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't look that up, but I think so. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, several thousand of these islands, and some

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<v Speaker 2>of these islands, like the Isle of Man for one,

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<v Speaker 2>are not part of the United Kingdom. They are like

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<v Speaker 2>politically tied to a degree, but technically they are a

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<v Speaker 2>distinct thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We you think that's right. Let's take a break, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a breath.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks when shoe shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop and things a job and job stop?

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So there's I hope it's been clear so far.

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<v Speaker 2>We've said everything three times. The issue of governance is

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<v Speaker 2>also at hand because at various times over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not going to dig too deeply into this

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<v Speaker 2>because we're trying to have fun here, but like there

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<v Speaker 2>have been the idea that like Scotland may want to

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<v Speaker 2>break away, or whales may want to break away. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the last time Scotland tried it was twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>this notion has been there before, but we're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to weigh too deeply into that. We just thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was worth mentioning.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but it's yes. Thank you for mentioning it, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>you did a great job just now.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you said, the United Kingdom is a nation state.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a sovereign state, and it's made up of four

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<v Speaker 1>member countries, which again is England, Wales, Scotland in Northern Ireland. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't realize this at all, but it does

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<v Speaker 1>make sense because you know that there's Scottish officials in parliament,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Welsh officials in parliament, Northern Irish officials in parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all coming together because Parliament I always thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was just English Parliament is actually UK. It's the governing

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<v Speaker 1>legislating body of the entire United Kingdom, not England.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Wales, I think, or I believe, Northern Ireland

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<v Speaker 2>they established the Northern Ireland Assembly in nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that Scotland did that in nineteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 2>and also Wales. They all have their own national Assemblies

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to having their own parliamentary reps.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, people come and give short programs encouraging them

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<v Speaker 1>to not do drugs. It's those kind of assemblies, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then England doesn't have a sovereign legislature of its own.

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<v Speaker 1>Scotland does, Wales does, and Northern Ireland does, but not England.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Until twenty five years ago, none of them

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<v Speaker 2>had independent lawmaking bodies. None of those countries did outside

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<v Speaker 2>of Parliament. But like I said, the other three did.

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<v Speaker 2>England still doesn't. The Union, Jack, if you're wondering, is

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<v Speaker 2>literally a union. That's I guess why it's called that

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<v Speaker 2>of the three flags of England, Scotland and Ireland and

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<v Speaker 2>Wales is just like, what about us? And they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not technically a kingdom, so you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be part of the union. Jack, and Wales is like

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<v Speaker 2>thanks right, well you got Christian bail.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, Well then we're independent. I thought he was Irish.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Welsh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's Welsh.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Super furry animals are Welsh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh buddy, I they blew my mind. Opening up for

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<v Speaker 2>Granddaddy in La in the early two thousands one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best shows I've ever seen. He told me that

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<v Speaker 2>it's fantastic, what a band.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just go one more step here at Chuck oh boy.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said that you were called out for calling

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<v Speaker 1>people from England English, which is dumb, not what you

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<v Speaker 1>did being called out for, because that's true, like the

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<v Speaker 1>people you would call English are people from England. You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't call anyone else in the United Kingdom or Great

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<v Speaker 1>Britain English because they're not English. They're either Scottish, Welsh

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<v Speaker 1>or Northern Irish.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Uh, it gets a little dodgy, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think Americans are known for just hearing an

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<v Speaker 2>accent and just saying English. I'm not one of those

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<v Speaker 2>people like I can. I can generally different she ate

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<v Speaker 2>between certainly Scottish, Irish and English, but Welsh not. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Welsh is an interesting accent and I've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>decent it, like some of the accents within England itself.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think it's pretty easy to tell. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it depends on where you're from in Scotland and Ireland.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've had friends from both Scotland and Ireland over

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<v Speaker 2>the years and it's a very distinct accent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Scottish accent is probably my favorite accent

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<v Speaker 1>in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Scottish and Irish are both. And then it depends on

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<v Speaker 2>where you're from. Like if I had a friend from

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<v Speaker 2>Glasgow and college Cotton, and I could barely enter, like

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<v Speaker 2>when her friends came over, I could barely understand a

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<v Speaker 2>word they said when they got to drinking too much,

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<v Speaker 2>and even Cotton at times. So I won't call her Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>but I eventually, after being friends with her for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years in college, could sort of sort of

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<v Speaker 2>work it out. It's much easier outside of Glasgow for

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<v Speaker 2>me to understand. Yeah, but I do a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>subtitles with Irish and Scottish cop shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, for sure, you have to definitely yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>even like English. Sometimes, like an English show, if they

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<v Speaker 1>start talking fast, I can't quite keep up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Or it depends on where they're from. Man, what

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<v Speaker 2>was the one? Oh, I can't remember. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>great little short series about a series of murders in

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<v Speaker 2>the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>The Yorkshire Ripper one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe that was in the shadow.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that Yorkshire accent was really something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I watched that whole thing on subtitles too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What was the word that they used?

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<v Speaker 3>A lot?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remind me, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Mate, no no, no, no, no, no, keep what else you

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<v Speaker 2>got smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy pop instead of coke putting right? But they're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about dessert?

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<v Speaker 2>Its mind, I can't remember there was There was one

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<v Speaker 2>word that they used a lot, just in the everyday

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<v Speaker 2>vernacular that had you know, the subtitles helped me out

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<v Speaker 2>with it, but I thought it was a cool accent.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you haven't seen it, it's definitely worth watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Very very very well done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very good. Agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>One other thing though, if you are ever talking to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody from the UK who's not English and you comment

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<v Speaker 1>on their English accent how much you like it, and

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<v Speaker 1>they call you out, the way out of it is

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<v Speaker 1>to say, no, I was commenting on how you were

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<v Speaker 1>speaking the English language. I love the accent you use

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<v Speaker 1>for that, And there will start getting stars and birds

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<v Speaker 1>swirling over their head and you just creep away while

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<v Speaker 1>they're confused.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And as far as like saying whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>somebody is British, obviously, if they're not from England, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not English. But if they're part of Great Britain, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how people personally feel about that. My guess

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<v Speaker 2>is that people from Scotland are like, I'm Scottish and

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't refer to themselves as British. And somebody from

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Ireland, Ireland or from Wales would say I'm Irish

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm Welsh and not British. But I mean maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they say I'm Scottish and then British or something. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. They probably don't even put it like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably just some dumb American thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this was Dave Rus's joint on how stuff works,

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<v Speaker 1>and he talked to his I think brother in law, Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>who's from England, and Tim says that the English are

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to say that they're British first, in English second,

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<v Speaker 1>So the opposite of the Welsh and the Scottish and

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<v Speaker 1>the Irish.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So one other thing, Chuck, Not only is there the

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<v Speaker 1>United Kingdom, but the United Kingdom also technically includes the

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<v Speaker 1>Commonwealth nations that include Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Jamaica, Bermuda,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're going to be at on our Virgin cruise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, mind blowingly, the Virgin Islands, which also ties

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<v Speaker 1>into our Virgin voyage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the British Virgin Islands aren't aren't there American Virgin Islands?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the av I and the Trebia, and then the Caymans,

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<v Speaker 1>which apparently is not a great shelter for your money

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<v Speaker 1>like it used to be in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you try to move some got stymied.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's it, right, Yeah, I got nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>I I just am so ready for this one to

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<v Speaker 2>be over before I say something wrong, even though that

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<v Speaker 2>probably happened like five times already.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you did a great job, man, I really

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<v Speaker 1>you too. Congratulations, buddy, We're done and we'll never get

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<v Speaker 1>it wrong again. That's right, all right. Short stuff is out.

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