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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, there's

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Speaker 1: Chuck and Jerry's here too, sitting in for date and

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Speaker 1: we're all dames and lads and nights and all that

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Speaker 1: stuff here at stuff you shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like this one is long overdue because

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Speaker 2: we have gotten a lot of email over the years

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Speaker 2: about us screwing up the difference between Britain and England

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Speaker 2: and the United Kingdom. Never again, well hopefully never again,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully we get all this right. I do want

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Speaker 2: to say in our defense though, release my defense. A

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Speaker 2: lot of times I have said England for somebody who

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Speaker 2: you can't just say England if it's you know, Britain

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Speaker 2: or the UK or something, and I'm like, but they're

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Speaker 1: What you didn't know is the person who called you

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Speaker 1: out's from California. Yeah, probably so, so, yeah, we're going

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Speaker 1: to try to get this right, and we will try

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Speaker 1: to continue in the future. But hey, we're only human

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Speaker 1: but flesh and blood some men, so we might get

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Speaker 1: it wrong eventually at some point.

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Speaker 2: That's right, So I guess we should start out by

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Speaker 2: saying that the UK, the United Kingdom, isn't the same

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Speaker 2: thing as saying Great Britain. The UK has a longer name.

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Speaker 2: It's the United king Officially, it's the United Kingdom of

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Speaker 2: Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It is, so they just

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Speaker 2: say UK, but it is a nation state of four countries,

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Speaker 2: which is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: So what's Great Britain?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was the UK. I think we should go

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Speaker 1: over it three more times.

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Speaker 2: That's the stuff you should know why.

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Speaker 1: Great Britain is an actual geographical area, the physical land

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Speaker 2: Island it is.

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Speaker 1: It's the island of well, Great Britain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like Greece.

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Speaker 1: It's the UK, except Northern Ireland is not part of

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Speaker 1: Great Britain because it's on a different island. Right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: It's still part of the UK, it's just not part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Northern othern Ireland, as you would guess, is on

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Speaker 2: the northern tip of Ireland, just a tip also an

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Speaker 2: ireland next door to Great Britain. I'm so afraid we're

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Speaker 1: Still, We're not. We're not. We can read everything verbatim.

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Speaker 1: How about that.

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Speaker 2: I've been not been as nervous in a long time

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got Great Britain. It's an island. It's

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Speaker 1: an island off the coast of.

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Speaker 2: Mainland Europe, a big one.

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Speaker 1: England, Scotland and Wales all share it. So to the

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Speaker 1: west of Great Britain, as we said, is Ireland a

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Speaker 1: different island. And there's Northern Ireland and.

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Speaker 2: We are doing this sure.

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Speaker 1: And the reason that there's Northern Ireland and in Ireland

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty two. Northern Ireland said no, We're going to stay,

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Speaker 2: That's right. We have another term that we need to mention,

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Speaker 2: be a little dodgy as far as I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure like how controversial it is controversial. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's pretty brave. I would not do that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't look that up, but I think so. But

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Speaker 2: like I said, several thousand of these islands, and some

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Speaker 1: We you think that's right. Let's take a break, all right,

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Speaker 1: Let's take a breath.

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Speaker 2: Thanks when shoe shot.

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Speaker 3: Stop and things a job and job stop?

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Speaker 2: All right. So there's I hope it's been clear so far.

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Speaker 2: We've said everything three times. The issue of governance is

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Speaker 1: No, but it's yes. Thank you for mentioning it, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: you did a great job just now.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, the United Kingdom is a nation state.

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Speaker 1: It's a sovereign state, and it's made up of four

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Speaker 1: member countries, which again is England, Wales, Scotland in Northern Ireland. Right.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't realize this at all, but it does

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Speaker 1: make sense because you know that there's Scottish officials in parliament,

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Speaker 1: there's Welsh officials in parliament, Northern Irish officials in parliament.

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Speaker 1: They're all coming together because Parliament I always thought it

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Speaker 2: That's right. Wales, I think, or I believe, Northern Ireland

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Speaker 2: they established the Northern Ireland Assembly in nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: I believe that Scotland did that in nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: and also Wales. They all have their own national Assemblies

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, people come and give short programs encouraging them

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Speaker 1: to not do drugs. It's those kind of assemblies, right.

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Speaker 1: And then England doesn't have a sovereign legislature of its own.

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Speaker 1: Scotland does, Wales does, and Northern Ireland does, but not England.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Until twenty five years ago, none of them

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Speaker 2: Wales is just like, what about us? And they're like, well,

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Speaker 2: thanks right, well you got Christian bail.

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Speaker 1: Though, Well then we're independent. I thought he was Irish.

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Speaker 1: He's Welsh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Welsh.

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Speaker 1: I know. Super furry animals are Welsh.

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Speaker 2: Oh buddy, I they blew my mind. Opening up for

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Speaker 2: Granddaddy in La in the early two thousands one of

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Speaker 1: Let's just go one more step here at Chuck oh boy.

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Speaker 1: So you said that you were called out for calling

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Speaker 1: people you would call English are people from England. You

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Speaker 2: That's right. Uh, it gets a little dodgy, I think,

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Speaker 2: because I think Americans are known for just hearing an

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Speaker 2: don't know. Welsh is an interesting accent and I've gotten

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's pretty easy to tell. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think the Scottish accent is probably my favorite accent

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Speaker 2: Scottish and Irish are both. And then it depends on

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Speaker 2: me to understand. Yeah, but I do a lot of

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, for sure, you have to definitely yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Or it depends on where they're from. Man, what

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Speaker 2: was the one? Oh, I can't remember. It was a

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Speaker 2: great little short series about a series of murders in

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Speaker 1: The Yorkshire Ripper one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that was in the shadow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that Yorkshire accent was really something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I watched that whole thing on subtitles too.

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Speaker 1: Guy pop instead of coke putting right? But they're talking

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Speaker 2: Its mind, I can't remember there was There was one

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Speaker 2: I liked it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you haven't seen it, it's definitely worth watching it.

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Speaker 1: Very very very well done.

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Speaker 1: One other thing though, if you are ever talking to

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And as far as like saying whether or not

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Speaker 2: don't know how people personally feel about that. My guess

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Speaker 2: don't know. They probably don't even put it like that.

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Speaker 2: That's probably just some dumb American thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, this was Dave Rus's joint on how stuff works,

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Speaker 1: and he talked to his I think brother in law, Tim,

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Speaker 1: So the opposite of the Welsh and the Scottish and

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Speaker 1: So one other thing, Chuck, Not only is there the

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Speaker 1: Commonwealth nations that include Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Jamaica, Bermuda,

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Speaker 1: which we're going to be at on our Virgin cruise.

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Speaker 1: That's right, mind blowingly, the Virgin Islands, which also ties

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the British Virgin Islands aren't aren't there American Virgin Islands?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the av I and the Trebia, and then the Caymans,

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Speaker 1: which apparently is not a great shelter for your money

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Speaker 1: like it used to be in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Did you try to move some got stymied.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that's it, right, Yeah, I got nothing else.

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Speaker 2: I I just am so ready for this one to

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Speaker 2: be over before I say something wrong, even though that

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Speaker 2: probably happened like five times already.

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Speaker 1: I think you did a great job, man, I really

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Speaker 1: you too. Congratulations, buddy, We're done and we'll never get

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Speaker 1: it wrong again. That's right, all right. Short stuff is out.

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