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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack's Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimon with John

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Speaker 1: Ocean and Brian Sexton at Jacks Drive Time. It starts

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Speaker 1: right now. I let's don't get him back, Let's don't

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Speaker 1: get him mad. Let's go let's start him long to

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Speaker 1: go back. But I said that right, and rock and

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Speaker 1: long bright rocket heay rocket rocket block gay poor pooler?

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Speaker 1: Who cool? Look go right? Y'all? All right? I can

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Speaker 1: talk about the break or who long thing? We got

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Speaker 1: a long season, but long season, but so many mu

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Speaker 1: plasumator Rashon Jenkins miked Up in Indianapolis. You can check

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Speaker 1: out the full episode of miked Up on Jaguars dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jaguars Drive Time on a Wednesday morning, Ashlyn,

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Speaker 1: Bryan and John here with you on a chili day

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. I always have to say that when it's

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Speaker 1: the first chili day of the year, we get excited

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Speaker 1: around here. Christmas is in the air. Boys, you didn't

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Speaker 1: seem excited when you were in Philly and it was

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Speaker 1: chili that was a different type of chili. And I

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Speaker 1: was the farthest thing from excited during that game. Would

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Speaker 1: you like, really, no, there's no need to go back.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Rashon Jenkins neighbor. My Caldwell system has

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Speaker 1: really put him in a spot to make plays. And

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Speaker 1: when you watch, you see him all over the field, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't I can't give you a grade on how

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Speaker 1: he is in coverage, but watching him near the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, blitzing, making tackles. He tipped a ball the

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Speaker 1: other day, very active. It's interesting to watch him play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Um, it's always dangerous. I haven't

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Speaker 1: talked to anybody like you, Brian who has told me

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Speaker 1: how he's great if there's a their errors, but he's

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Speaker 1: certainly I would say, Um. Makes is the Jaguars defensive

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Speaker 1: player who is making significantly more big plays this year

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Speaker 1: than he was last. And uh, he stands out and

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Speaker 1: that's what a safety's job is. Today he impacts and

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Speaker 1: disrupts and uh, he didn't do much of that last

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Speaker 1: Year's for him. They like their safeties here. They both

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Speaker 1: played well so far this season and they need them

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Speaker 1: to help out in the passing game going forward. Both

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Speaker 1: Andre Cisco as well. Let's get into big things. Big

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Speaker 1: thing one is time to get right. The Jaguars on

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Speaker 1: a three game losing streak and now is the time

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Speaker 1: if you want to have anything close to that feeling

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Speaker 1: winning ways the Jaguars had early on this year. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: Jaguars best football ahead of them Octobers and spooky to

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Speaker 1: say the least. Um, but you want to play your

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Speaker 1: best football in nor Vembland December and um you know

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Speaker 1: you don't want to peak too soon. And I feel

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Speaker 1: as though this team is on pace to do something

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Speaker 1: special down the road. Coming up. We have an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: opportunity this week against the Giants to a good football team.

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Speaker 1: They run the ball well. Great challenge for our defense.

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Speaker 1: We newly they have on defense as we get into

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Speaker 1: them a little bit more. But November December and when

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Speaker 1: we start clicking at that moment and we gained that momentum,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what makes a Nagers team and hopefully

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Speaker 1: big thing too, is time for takeaways. The Jaguars at

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Speaker 1: one point let the league and takeaways in the past

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Speaker 1: two weeks they have had none. Where have they been

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Speaker 1: for Loukhan explains, we gotta take a take advantance of

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Speaker 1: opportunities to come. Remember they had a fumble. They did

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Speaker 1: big thing three is time for accountability. Someone has to

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Speaker 1: be to blame for the Jaguars three game losing streak, right. Well,

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Speaker 1: the more of the story is plenty of players have

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Speaker 1: number one, I still take the fall um for the

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Speaker 1: different of a story now. Yeah. I mean there's still

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Speaker 1: look before the season, John, when people would ask me

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Speaker 1: And John, you know you've heard this like I have

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Speaker 1: for the whole season? Maybe not, But this is a

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Speaker 1: guy that you can depend on. I think you sent

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Speaker 1: him a week. I think you get them just everything

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Speaker 1: to settle down, Just calm everything down, and you get

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Speaker 1: yes with the cap space and that cap pit. You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna send him the entire year, but try something

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Speaker 1: different for a week. You know, with Trey Hernon, I

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Speaker 1: trust that he can go in and do his job.

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Speaker 1: Something's gotta change, yea, And yeah, the question is is

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Speaker 1: it this week or not? Interesting? We'll pay attention to it, John,

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Speaker 1: What do you think him? Um, what's the most significant

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Speaker 1: stat moving forward? The fact that Jays have no takeaways

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Speaker 1: in the last two games, or that they were three

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Speaker 1: for three in the red zone sending against the Colts

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Speaker 1: and it's it all depends on what they do moving forward.

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Speaker 1: I think they are going to drop off a little

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Speaker 1: bit in their takeaway pace from weeks one and four.

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Speaker 1: They already have obviously, but I don't know they're going

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Speaker 1: to maintain that because it seems like teams have figured

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Speaker 1: out a way to combat what they were doing early.

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Speaker 1: To me, the most significant stat that we really haven't

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Speaker 1: talked about because they lost on Sunday, they went three

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Speaker 1: or three in the red zone. Um, if this offense

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Speaker 1: is at six percent in the red zone, they have

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Speaker 1: really moved the ball well for the most part throughout

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. In six games. It's a

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Speaker 1: stature using quick thoughts. This week, they have been remarkably consistent.

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Speaker 1: Every drive they've had at least I mean every game

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Speaker 1: they've had at least three drives over fifty yards. I

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Speaker 1: think they've had twenty four of those for the season.

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Speaker 1: They're going to the top of the league in ten

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Speaker 1: play drives. Yeah, that's a lot of extended drives. So

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Speaker 1: it feels to me like that's a part of this

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Speaker 1: team you can rely on. Now. They are going to

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Speaker 1: move the ball offensively. I see no reason to think

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Speaker 1: they won't. Can they stick it in the red zone?

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Speaker 1: If there are three of three, two of three, three

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Speaker 1: or four type stuff in the red zone the rest

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Speaker 1: of the season, they are going to turn this around.

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Speaker 1: If they keep that stat going. I think that's really

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Speaker 1: important for this team. We talked in training camp, where

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Speaker 1: were the points going to come from? Right? If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna play in the a f C with these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and you're playing the Broncos with Russell Wilson and what

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Speaker 1: we've seen Derek Carr be able to do. And obviously

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Speaker 1: we go after that with Kansas City and then the

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Speaker 1: week after that with Baltimore. You're gonna have these teams

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Speaker 1: or you're gonna score. So I think the red zone

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Speaker 1: is more important than the takeaways because in this game,

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Speaker 1: which is built towards offense by the way, scoring is

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Speaker 1: down in the league, and that was a part of

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Speaker 1: the conversation yesterday at the NFL's owners meetings. Right, Um,

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Speaker 1: so they don't want that, they want to score. So

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, you better be able to score,

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Speaker 1: because that's what this is leaning towards. And to see

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Speaker 1: him find efficiency in the red zone is a very

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Speaker 1: good sign. It was a low scoring team in the

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Speaker 1: NFL last year, their fift this year. It's not where

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Speaker 1: Doug wants to be. But considering through six games, if

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Speaker 1: you think about, um, what this team was last year,

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Speaker 1: I think they scored more than twenty four times. They've

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Speaker 1: been five I'm sorry, they've been over twenty five times

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Speaker 1: already this year. It's uh And I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: the first steps of a building towards what the identity

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Speaker 1: of this team is going to be at some point,

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Speaker 1: especially since two weeks ago against the Houston Texans, this

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Speaker 1: the storyline of the week and especially on this Monday Show,

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Speaker 1: is that they couldn't score on the red zone and

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Speaker 1: that that was something that made them lose that game.

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Speaker 1: And even they've been moving the ball. For a young team,

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Speaker 1: the Colts, because they have a new quarterback, had struggled

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Speaker 1: in the red zone until Sunday that that usually comes

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Speaker 1: together the fact that they are moving the ball between

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Speaker 1: the twenties consistently compared to what they were last year.

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Speaker 1: It's a remarkable turnaround that I think people may have

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Speaker 1: forgotten a little bit, and mindus are that is, who

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Speaker 1: did the Jaguars miss more on Sunday. We're going to

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Speaker 1: pay attention if either of these guys can play this

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Speaker 1: upcoming week. Marvin Jones Jr. Or fully fought to Kassi,

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Speaker 1: who do the Jaguars miss more in their loss? And

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Speaker 1: we're hopefully going to have both of these guys back

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Speaker 1: this week. I'll say Marvin Jones in the second quarter.

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Speaker 1: They didn't seem to miss him much late, especially on

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Speaker 1: that eight team play drive where I think if he's

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Speaker 1: on the field, he's an obvious target. He's a guy

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Speaker 1: that the quarterback feels so comfortable with um. But they

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Speaker 1: struggled to move the ball. There was those two drives

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Speaker 1: at the end of the first half where the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: really struggled and set up those two scoring drives for

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Speaker 1: the Colts. And if you've got Marvin Jones getting open,

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Speaker 1: perhaps that makes a change. They obviously didn't miss Fatukazi,

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Speaker 1: who's not a pass rusher at all. Because the Colts

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Speaker 1: without Jonathan Taylor, we're not going to succeed in the

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Speaker 1: ground game. So I will say more of a Jones.

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Speaker 1: I think moving forward, you there's a chance that they

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Speaker 1: will miss Dacasi more if he's not there. I think

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Speaker 1: both these guys will be back, but you need if

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Speaker 1: they were both out, I think you would miss Dacasi

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Speaker 1: more the long term because Tim Jones um is interesting.

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Speaker 1: He made a really nice play on the ball yesterday

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Speaker 1: at me and night yester day it's Sunday. Uh, He's

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Speaker 1: got some potential that if Marvin wasn't available for the

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Speaker 1: entire season, Tim Jones I think over the course of

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Speaker 1: time could come up and supplement that. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that they have a replacement long term for Fridacasi. And

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Speaker 1: that is the sort that presented by Price dot Com.

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Speaker 1: back on the practice field. It is cold outside. We'll

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Speaker 1: be wearing sweatshirts on the practice field to day is

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Speaker 1: it's coming out as the Jaguars get ready for a

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Speaker 1: Giants team here on Sunday, a home game finally, and

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a busy stretch because the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: will play a home game. They will then go to

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Speaker 1: London next week. We're used having a bye week after London.

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Speaker 1: Then they play another home game here in Jacksonville against

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. This is a lot which makes it an

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Speaker 1: important game. I mean we say every week it's an

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Speaker 1: important game. But if you want to find a way

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Speaker 1: to start building a bit of momentum winning a home game,

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Speaker 1: which seemed to be it um, I'm gonna talk to

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Speaker 1: Brentson Buckner after practice today, the defensive line coach, because

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Speaker 1: we say Kwan Barkley coming in here. Those three guys

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Speaker 1: inside hopefully fought to Kassi, but Roy Roberts and Harris

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Speaker 1: and Devon Hamilton's are gonna have to be able to

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Speaker 1: hold the point and and it's tough because they've got

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Speaker 1: two first round picks to tackle right Nevin Neil this

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Speaker 1: year's Andrew Thomas a couple of years ago from Georgia.

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Speaker 1: This is a big challenge. Well, it's an important game

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Speaker 1: in the sense that I get that people don't want

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Speaker 1: to consider London a home game, but on their schedule,

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Speaker 1: in terms of how you play it, it is a

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Speaker 1: home game. And so they have three home games in

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Speaker 1: a row against the Giants who five and one. I

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Speaker 1: believe teams will win close games. Are good teams, but

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Speaker 1: they've been playing close games, so you would think that

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Speaker 1: Jay Wars will have a chance in this game. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the game, Denver and the Raiders after

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Speaker 1: that have not been so far what people fear, the

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Speaker 1: the awesome a f C West is going to be

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Speaker 1: the best division of all time, It really hasn't been.

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Speaker 1: So these are three game games that on paper you

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Speaker 1: ought to be in. This is not the Chiefs, who

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Speaker 1: which I'm not sure that this is a team to

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Speaker 1: be ready for the Chiefs. These three games should be

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Speaker 1: so if if they are what they think they are,

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Speaker 1: which is which is a team that has been close

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Speaker 1: and a team is about to break through. You can

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Speaker 1: break through in these three games. There are matchups that

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Speaker 1: favor the Jaguars, right, at least they match up well

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Speaker 1: with the Giants, right. The Giants run the ball, the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars stop the run. The Giants don't stop the run.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars run the ball. Um. There's some matchups individually

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Speaker 1: that you can see that really makes sense. There's not

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Speaker 1: a game breaking wide receiver. I mean, I get Kadarius

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Speaker 1: Tony was drafted to be that. He hasn't proven to

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Speaker 1: be that yet. There's some things they can do this

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Speaker 1: week to work matchups in their favor. I think there's

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Speaker 1: matchups in the Broncos game, Raiders game. There's some tough matchups.

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams and Darren Waller are two guys. Did everyone

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Speaker 1: have trouble stopping? So you could use these next two

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Speaker 1: weeks to play well and and get right if you're

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Speaker 1: Shack Griffin right and a couple other guys. Don't mean

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Speaker 1: you just pick on him, but he's just the most

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Speaker 1: obvious example because as you go towards Kansas City, what

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Speaker 1: certainly looming that game, plus the odds makers like the

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Speaker 1: odds makers are right a lot, you know. More So,

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Speaker 1: we didn't used to talk about the odds right. There

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Speaker 1: was a time where we didn't talk about Vegas and

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Speaker 1: betting and gambling in any of that. So I didn't

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Speaker 1: pay as much attention to it until recently, where all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, now it's part and parcel of professional

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Speaker 1: sports in the NFL in particular, they are they get

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Speaker 1: it right. It's surprising. It was surprising Monday morn when

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Speaker 1: I saw I said, huh, what do you mean? They

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Speaker 1: must know something I don't know. I think the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: were obviously the number one team in the draft order

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Speaker 1: because they had the worst record. The Giants came in

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Speaker 1: at number five, and I think at number seven because

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Speaker 1: they had two first round picks. Brian Dabble has done

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Speaker 1: an amazing job at getting this team to play well,

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Speaker 1: and obviously Wink Martindale and the defense have they've got talent.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars aren't so far away from them that they can't

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Speaker 1: line up and play for sure, right I know people

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Speaker 1: are looking at Sae Kwon Barkley. Jaguars run defense has

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Speaker 1: been good this year. Let's see if they will be

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Speaker 1: on Sunday's going to be an interesting game Sunday against

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Speaker 1: the Giants at home. Stay with us on Jaguars dot Com.

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