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Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, Wow. The Cardiac Pacers did it again, trail

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Speaker 2: the entire game, trailed by as many as fifteen points,

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Speaker 2: but when it mattered the most, Tyrese Halliburton did it again.

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Speaker 2: Go Halle Go Halle, and Hallie did he go. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen for joining us for another episode of Nightcap.

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Speaker 2: As you watch the Indiana Pacers and go on the road,

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Speaker 2: and what they normally do is take game one, and

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Speaker 2: they did it again. One eleven, one ten. I said it.

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Speaker 2: They were down by as many as fifteen, but they

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Speaker 2: really well except the fourth quarter. Twells gave up twelve

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Speaker 2: steals in the first half, nineteen turned over in the

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Speaker 2: first half, but they filed a way to hang around

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Speaker 2: and they won the ball game. I am your favorite,

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Speaker 2: Game one of the NBA Finals, and that is Cedric

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Speaker 2: corn Bread Maxwell. Guys, let's get look here. You know what,

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Speaker 2: right into this game. I thought, I thought, I really did.

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Speaker 2: I thought, okay, see had this thing in the bag

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Speaker 2: because they, I mean, Indiana cut it and then extended

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Speaker 2: they cut it down to six, and now you're back

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Speaker 2: up to eleven. They cut it down again, and next

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Speaker 2: I said, that's too much to overcome. Nothing is too

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Speaker 2: much for these places to overcome. They believe. I don't

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Speaker 2: there and they still game one, still home court advantage

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Speaker 2: in game one. Joe, you watched this game, and like

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Speaker 2: I said, I didn't feel like they played really well

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Speaker 2: Joe Howell was Indiana and this hostile of an environment

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Speaker 3: You know that's what happened when he got the big

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Speaker 1: Joe came on earlier. I thought you had played in

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Speaker 1: I understand the parlades and all that, but that you

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Speaker 2: Over and over again. Okay.

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Speaker 3: See to me, this is what I said before this series.

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Speaker 3: And I still feel that Indiana's gonna win this series

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Speaker 3: the game, they got tight, and Ojo, you've seen it before.

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Speaker 2: What to do. If somebody would have told me, o

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Speaker 2: told me that Indiana's gonna turn the ball over twenty

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Speaker 4: Damn okay See, I'm gonna be honest with young watching

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Speaker 4: Then they going another stress, They going another run, they

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Speaker 4: So I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: The game is over. So I'm sitting back o relaxing.

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Speaker 4: Both both ends of both ends of the court, both

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Speaker 3: Was Chad? What was Chad? What Chad is is supposed

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Speaker 3: He's just the second fibical guy. He he was invisible

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Speaker 2: They disappeared, and you can't do that in big games.

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Speaker 2: What's surprising to me, Guys and Joe, let me know

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Speaker 2: what you think about this. Why would you change your

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Speaker 2: you got everybody out there at six seven and under,

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Speaker 2: we playing back yard basketball. Ain't nobody really got no advantage.

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Speaker 2: That's that actually plays in Indiana hands. When you're playing

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Speaker 2: Obi Topping played great. He kept him in the game

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Speaker 2: As long as he catches, shoot, crash the glass, man,

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Speaker 2: he is perfect for this game right here. This is

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Speaker 3: Hey, give Rick Carlisle huge points. Give Rick Carlile huge points.

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Speaker 3: This is need not let those guys your back. And

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Speaker 3: that is what that's what championship mellow. He's he's the

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Speaker 4: And the funny thing about it is, if we talk

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Speaker 4: about giving a coach credit, right, the coach can do

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Speaker 4: all the coaching you want, but it comes to the

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Speaker 4: players to be able to execute and not even give.

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Speaker 2: Up all the way to the last.

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Speaker 4: Asked a few seconds of the goddamn game, corn Bread,

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Speaker 4: the boy were losing, They was down and refused to

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Speaker 3: I tell you what I love it about, Joe. This

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Speaker 3: is what I loved about it. At the end of

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Speaker 3: damn mouse piss on cotton then death, and that's that

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Speaker 3: is the thriller.

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Speaker 2: Bell love it. Yeah, on, hold on, hey, hold on,

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Speaker 2: I got one question for you.

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Speaker 4: I got one question for you and Joe, corn Bread,

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Speaker 4: I already know where you're going with it now. I

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Speaker 4: So you have to understand each each game, each game

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Speaker 2: We got to talk about that. For the game you

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I'm saying it's a five game sit Listen,

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Speaker 4: Each game is one hundred dollars depending on who team win. Boy,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Joe. That ain't my problem how you decided

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Speaker 2: You know, you're letting him get second chance opportunities. Now

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Speaker 2: And that's what Golden State was really good at. Golden

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Speaker 2: But y'all don't play like that. They do. OK. See,

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Speaker 3: Hold times you overthink it that's what happens. You overthink

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Speaker 2: We're in the wrong place right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't bread, Hey bread, Joe, and I got a question. Listen, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Y'all, y'all are basket basketball basketball savians, you know, in general,

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Speaker 4: When you play against a team like in Indiana paces

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Speaker 2: In general. Your question, lacord I, put it to your

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Speaker 2: football terms. Y'all played the Cincinnati Bengals played three wides, y'all,

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Speaker 2: you gonna chase that? You know what? They got really good?

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Speaker 2: if you're gonna play that small lass line up, I'm

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Speaker 2: the glass like they because see they're used to play

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Speaker 2: That was the only stretch that we would be now

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Speaker 2: And so I'm surprised that Okay, see did this and

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that sometimes again, you overthink the process

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Speaker 3: Instead of getting smaller, we got bigger. We had separate

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Speaker 2: You don't eat this, and you ain't you don't eat that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what I further, you're you're thinking, is that what you are?

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Speaker 3: We have a damn pope Chops, and we hear exactly.

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Speaker 2: So you talking about all that other stuff you're talking about, Hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: I mean you look at bro they had Pascal Siakam

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Speaker 3: What did Chad do when Chad give you to Night

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Speaker 2: He gave you six points six rebounds. I say, Lordenstein

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Speaker 2: So you you played into their hands. And look, if

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get beat, I got I've got to get now.

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Speaker 3: I hope like get surprised the hell out of them

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Speaker 3: Artist what we know he is. He is a dress

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Speaker 3: You took one of the towers away, and Indiana feasted

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Speaker 2: And another thing got Joe, no one. I'm gonna let

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Speaker 2: you go, Joe. Another thing that defense we talked about.

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Speaker 2: And we talked about their defense. We talked about lou Door,

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Speaker 2: What good is that? If I and down the clutch.

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Speaker 2: But I'm surprised that the Pacers were able to stay

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Speaker 2: know when they got down what they were down, like

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Speaker 2: I'd have told the house up over here behind it.

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Speaker 3: But man, I have never sitting in Joe Johnson, who

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Speaker 6: Come on, before this game, it looked like it looked

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Joe looked like he was frustrated, Like Joe

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Speaker 2: I was like, Joe, you're right, little played with ok Man, listen,

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Speaker 2: look when when you watch the game, like, it's hard

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Speaker 2: nim hard down the stretch. He was a two guy.

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Speaker 2: He was a ghost.

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Speaker 3: He didn't one that was make it plenty. Hey, you

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Speaker 2: Okay had it because Nie Smith throw the ball and

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Speaker 2: taken the lead. Now, all of a sudden they cut

429
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Speaker 2: back down the court and Shade gets a layup, and

430
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm like God, I said, man, you that just that,

431
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 2: I said that they have lost the game.

432
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Speaker 3: Now tell o Jo, I can tell you what happened.

433
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why Joe stows the game. Some

434
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: damn dead president. He's losing right there. Hey, what it

435
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 3: is Lincoln see grants and whatever he's spending right now,

436
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 3: them things walking away.

437
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: That's why he's frustrated. Right as long long and long

438
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 2: as I get my hand, he owe me chill, chill, chill, chill.

439
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: Hey listen, check homemberdge got he got to give us

440
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: some guys. Listen. I think they gotta go back. They

441
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: got to go back with the big lineup because you

442
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 2: done try this small ball and it ain't it don't

443
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: it don't fit you. It fits Indiana. It's in Indiana's favor.

444
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: So because down the stretch when you look, they can't

445
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: get no second chance opportunity. Miss. You know, if you

446
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: have hard Steyn the homebridge in the one shake do miss, amittee,

447
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: maybe they'll tip it out. You get another opportunity. But

448
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: you get on one shot and now you got to

449
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 2: get back on defense. So, uh, I didn't like it, man,

450
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: I ain't like the startup. I ain't like the change

451
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: in the lineup. Man, you the number one team in

452
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 2: the NBA cornbread, Oh Joe, why you switching things up?

453
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 2: Make them people adjust to you exactly.

454
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm gonna ask you again, though, Joe. Listen, let's

455
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: say they do go big. I mean, as as a coach,

456
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: you got to make adjustments and understanding that list the game.

457
00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 4: Hey wait, because you already know they are ability on defense.

458
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 4: If you don't get that guy, damn rebound. They down

459
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 4: the court running the four by one.

460
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I think? You know what now

461
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: playing it back in my head, I think, okay, see

462
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: looked at the series before Cleveland. What did Cleveland do

463
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: play two bigs? Cleveland got ran off the court, so

464
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: he looked. I believe he looked. I believe that it

465
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: looked at it like that. And also the Knicks, the

466
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 2: Knicks had success. They had success with what when they

467
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: brought Mitchell Robinson and Cat in because Mitchell Robinson can protect. Also,

468
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: now you got cat can do what he wanted because

469
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: Kat is not a defender, and he really doesn't want

470
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: to play the five. He wants to play the four.

471
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 2: You let Mitchell Robinson so I think that played a

472
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 2: rolling I think okay, see looked at those two and

473
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: they say, man, they ran and remember Cleveland is a

474
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: good defensive team. Yeah, they got ran off the court.

475
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,479
Speaker 2: They got beat four to one. You saw what they

476
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: did to the Knicks. They didn't have home court. They

477
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 2: ran them off the court. So, okay, see said, you

478
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: know what, let me switch it up. I ain't switching

479
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 2: up nothing. You're gonna have to. You're gonna beat me,

480
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: but you're gonna beat me at my best. Now, you know,

481
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: I get it.

482
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 3: Game two, Okay, I might have to make some adjustment,

483
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 3: but I'm not making I'm not making no.

484
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm not making no. I'm not making no adjustments before

485
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 2: I have to make adjustments. That's what I'm saying. Come

486
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: on now, hey, brid Fred, I'm like, you know what, Hey,

487
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: my car crank is just fine and everything's going to go.

488
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: Hey man, change my transmission on your change the battery

489
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: for no reason, Come on, canno before in this next

490
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: game right here, See, there's gonna be some assholes.

491
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 3: Gonna be tight and that when the game like that

492
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: and you and you got in your home. This says

493
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 3: a I'm sorry, but this is a must win game

494
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: for them. Absolutely, that's the must win game. And Joe, Joe,

495
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 3: Dody'll come back. Joe, you had the right part.

496
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hey, young brand and Joe right, listen, If

497
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: the coach made the decision to go small right against

498
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: the Pacers in the first game, is he gonna change

499
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: it back in the second game? Is he gonna really

500
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 4: sit there and take that sword and fall on that

501
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 4: sword and say, you know what, I made the wrong decision.

502
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: If you're a smart coach, you make do you see

503
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 3: that adjustment that you have to make. That's why I

504
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: said in the beginning of this series, it favored the

505
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 3: Pacers because they had a coach who had championship experience.

506
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 3: It's also been there with Larry Bird in Indiana when

507
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 3: they played and were playing for a championship. He's one

508
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: one before, he's one one in Boston. So his experience

509
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: I think showed in that game. And he was definitely

510
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: what you said the old time. I think, Shannon, he

511
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: was great as saying, go on to the next play,

512
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: go on to the next one. And that's what happens

513
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: you if you believed in your coach and now when

514
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: you have players over there. Second guessing what the coach

515
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 3: is saying. That's gonna be one thing, because you can

516
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: see the look on everybody's face. I don't know why

517
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: we're not there right now. Man, we could be selling

518
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: shots like a bug.

519
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: Up and there.

520
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 4: We bet we can making so much damn money.

521
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 2: You know that's how I go. Next year. Next year,

522
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: we're gonna take the show on the road. We're gonna. Hey,

523
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna, we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk to Adam

524
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: Silver said, Adam, A Hey, we gonna we want to

525
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: we on to go, and we want to go on

526
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: the road. We want to be a We ain't gotta

527
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Speaker 2: we be in the hallway. We'll be in the al

528
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna get We got the license. Make sure

529
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: you get your liking license. Listen, hey, y'all take this

530
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: show on the road. Now, y'all gonna have to cut

531
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: me in and cut it out. All right, y'all have

532
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: to cut cut it out. I'm telling you right now,

533
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: cut me in and cut out. I'm disappointed. Man, don't

534
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: worry about it. But that's ojo ojo. I give you

535
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: prime example the Super Bowl. Talk to me, what did

536
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: the Eagles defense do all year they played cover two.

537
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: The entire season they played, they played two. I think

538
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: they played one or two snaps a single high safety.

539
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: In the Super Bowl they were a Cover two team.

540
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if all of a sudden instead of

541
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: being a Cover two team, all of a sudden, they

542
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 2: come out and they gonna say, you know what, We're

543
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: gonna play single high and we're gonna play quarters. Well,

544
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: that's not what you've done all year to get you

545
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: to this point.

546
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 6: Now.

547
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: If I'm going out there, if you starting to gash

548
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: me in what I'm doing now, I've got to make

549
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: an adjustment. Why would I make an adjustment before I

550
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: have to? Right when you've been the best team all

551
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: year you've been you won sixty eight games, you wanted

552
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: the few teams that's won at least eighty games before

553
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: you reach the finals, and then all of a sudden

554
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: you let this team. They credit India is playing well.

555
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: I don't think I think all four of us can

556
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: agree India is playing well. I think they've been the

557
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: biggest surprise in the NBA playoffs this year. They beat

558
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 2: the sixty four win team they beat, and they've been

559
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: the underdog. They beat the Bucks, they beat Cleveland, they

560
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: beat the Knicks. They've been and they've been the underdog.

561
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: You know what, if they were to pull this off

562
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: in the last thirty years, this might be the biggest upset.

563
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 2: This might this might be those might be. This might

564
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: be Detroit La beating La in O three. This might

565
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: be the Mavericks beating the Heat in twenty eleven. Because

566
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: think about what they've the gauntlet that they've gone through.

567
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: They've been the underdog in the first round, in the

568
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: second round, the third round, and the finals, and they're

569
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: going up against the finals, the MVP of the league

570
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: and the best offense, the best defense.

571
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: But say shann to be truthful about this state, the

572
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: Pacers have played better than anybody in the place they play.

573
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: They played, they outplayed everybody, and that includes okay, see okay,

574
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: see played. They've been okay and in some games, ain't struggle.

575
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: But the Pacers have been the best playing team during

576
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: this NBA Finals, during the during this whole NBA playoffs,

577
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: they've been the best team. So it shouldn't surprise us.

578
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: And at the end of the game for them to

579
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: make that shot, Oh my god, I can just I

580
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: can feel I can feel the things you were talking about.

581
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: I can feel Joe. I can feel Joe's pain when

582
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: he came on. I can feel old Joe's pride when

583
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: you're sitting there. And then you know, and my part

584
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 2: lay baby and you you you gotta think about I mean,

585
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: look at Joe if God, if we think about look

586
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: who they beat. They beat first team unanimous All NBA selection, Yiannis,

587
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: they be Defensive Player of the Year. Evan Mobley they

588
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 2: beat Uh, he was the first team All NBA. Donovan Mitchell.

589
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: They beat thirdeam Jaylen Brunton was an All NBA selection.

590
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: I mean, so look at it. Look now you've got

591
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: Shae Shae unanimous m v P, Jaylen Williams thirteam Dor.

592
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: I think Dort was on the All Defensives. Tell me,

593
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: Shandon you're saying that. Tell me the player in Indiana

594
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: that we're saying is the All Star player. Nobody. Uh

595
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: he didn't have to go to ha me went to

596
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: the All Star Game this year, right Nah?

597
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 7: But he but here is yeah, he just started Stockham.

598
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 7: They they are the superstar their stars. Yeah they yeah,

599
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 7: they But the thing is they're by committee. The only

600
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 7: thing that you know is that late in the ball game.

601
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 7: If you need a shot to win the tie, Halla

602
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 7: Burn's gonna take it.

603
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: You can't let him bread. He just just like everybody do.

604
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: If that game was playing the ball game, y'all know,

605
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: thirty three, thirty three is gonna take Okay, y'all keep

606
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: pulling around the show. What what? What was I'm trying

607
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: to figure out what Halle Burn's dad mother did in

608
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: that game. Was he doing cartwheels out there? He on

609
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: a probation already, so he kept yeah, yeah, you know,

610
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: I mean, if that's my son out there, I'm doing

611
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: the carwheel out there in the middle of the floor. No, No,

612
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: that got you, That got you go in jail. I'm

613
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: telling you what the way that game played out is.

614
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: I'm just like all you guys right now looking at it.

615
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: In the beginning this game, everybody had Indiana uh and

616
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: not playing. And then the Turlo was like you said, Joe,

617
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: I kept doing like this, damn another turnover.

618
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: Throw the ball back now, I thought, And then all

619
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the reiling back here. Joe.

620
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: You've been there before, O, Joe, you've been there before, chanting,

621
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: I know you've been there before. Out there, what they

622
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: called get your fishing bow a lot this and you're

623
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: real that suck and you're realing me, you're punking, and

624
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: then you're pulling back in.

625
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: He might go a little bit further, but you got

626
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: him on that line. You got that thing in his

627
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: mouth like that. You know you don't know about fishing, though,

628
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: bread Red, You gotta stop talking. Oh, you don't know

629
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: no about fat, no hook. He don't know about shore fishing.

630
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: He don't know about no flat no flat head. He

631
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: don't know about no butter cat, no china cat, no

632
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: speckle cat. He don't know nothing about that. No white birch.

633
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 5: No.

634
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on, listen. He's talking about fishing, right,

635
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: you talk about actual fishing now. And there's there's there's

636
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: other perspectives in the different contexts that I can talk

637
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: about and use the same thing y'all talking about.

638
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: We'll probation, probation. We we can't get too soon, too soon,

639
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: so soon? Oh I know how to fish? Yeah, yeah,

640
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: you know you get to Joe. You're good hunter. Oh

641
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: I'm hunter now, I know my baby watching.

642
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: Hey hey hey hey yeah two leg hunting. But that's okay.

643
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about that. We're talking about that. The

644
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: months were talking about this, but you got sick. But

645
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 2: think about it when the Pacers, when the Pacers win

646
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: ball games, look at the stat line, Look how many

647
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 2: guys they have in double figures. They're gonna have at

648
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: least at bare minimum five, sometimes they get six. Even

649
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: last game they had seven guys in double figures. And

650
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: those guys and and that's hard to plan for it

651
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: because you're like, Okay, we got a key on. We're

652
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: gonna key on Jayalen Williams, and we're gonna key on shape.

653
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: If somebody else goes hey winan gives us twenty five thirty,

654
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: we can live with that. All the praiser is gonna

655
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: do to have a bunch of nineteen seventeen, fourteen, thirteen, fifteen, sixteen,

656
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: you will have two nine of eight.

657
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: Joe, Joe, did you happen to see that play kind

658
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: of at the end of the game, woman, I thought

659
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: that was shake got pushed, shake got fout, and he

660
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: pushed it. He pushed the opposition away. That does look

661
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 3: crack to me because that you don't see that from

662
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 3: shak he ool, But all of a sudden he did.

663
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: He did like Shannon Sharp did at that Laker game

664
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: that time when Joe I kept bringing it up. I'm sorry, Joe,

665
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: tell I think about it. I can see Shannon floor.

666
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: Bring your ass over here. Then bring your ass, Okay,

667
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: bring your ass, bring your ass. And you know what

668
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: he told me, Joe, he told me I didn't. I

669
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: didn't step over the floor. I'm like, hell, you did

670
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: step over ain'tle Are you like this your ass over here?

671
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I looked down the feet that like, oh,

672
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: let me, let me get picked back. I always y'all,

673
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: ain't on the floor.

674
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: Did you have but huh? Did you have something system

675
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: that night?

676
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 3: Off?

677
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, I don't. I don't. I don't.

678
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't all the time. I's got to be a

679
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: private event. I don't. I don't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't

680
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: drink out in public like that.

681
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: Hell sometimes, you know, they sometimes, Joe, you be in

682
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 4: a certain situation now, regardless of your.

683
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: Environment, you got to stand up for yourself. You just

684
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: can't let them wait when the cameras round. Yeah, but

685
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: I was, I was. I was surprised, and I agree

686
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: with you, bred I thought, you know, I thought they

687
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: let him play to a certain they were letting them

688
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: playoff like well that that play tonight, that was that

689
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: was eighties basketball. Yes, yes, yes, where it was physical.

690
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: It was a lot of bumping. It was a lone

691
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: of pushing bottle.

692
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: And what it does it famous Indiana because they're the

693
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: more physical team. Indiana Pacers are the more physical team. Okay,

694
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: c is more of the finesse team. And because of that,

695
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: the finesse at the end got.

696
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: Pushed around by the team that was more aggressive. That

697
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: was in the app Man, they gotta have some signs

698
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: in the game, fellas. This is what Okay, see lost man,

699
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: y'all know that. Man, Come on, they had their lead

700
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: kind of left. Let they put off the gas a

701
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: little bit, and Indiana is gonna do what they've been

702
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: doing the whole postseason. Man, they're gonna keep playing to

703
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: the buzzer sound. Now at the last five to seven minutes,

704
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: when you're playing small ball, that's gonna work in Indiana. Favor. Man,

705
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: you don't have no size and that to come back nothing. Defensively,

706
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: you can't get no offensive rebound. This they limited you

707
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: to one shot and they pushing it down your throat.

708
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 2: I just thought Okay. See yeah, Like like you said, Brett,

709
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 2: they overthought it. Man, why would you change up your

710
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: lineup like that? Okay, if it don't work in the

711
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: first five minutes, okay, we'll make some subs and we'll

712
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: get some guys in. But outside of it, I'm not

713
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: letting y'all change what we've done all year.

714
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: We got the bet, we're the best team, and we've

715
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: been playing this way all year, and now I get

716
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: to the game and all of a sudden, I'm gonna

717
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: change what I do. He's like, because when I heard

718
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: them say they have to change the lineup, I'm like,

719
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: why would they do that?

720
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 6: Yeah?

721
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: Cause I was because that's what I did. I was

722
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: looking at it. Because I'm looking at it, I'm like,

723
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: hold on, this guy said. I'm like, man, hold on,

724
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: Wallace doesn't normally start, and it been done them. I'm like, well,

725
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: who normally starts? I was like, well, somebody must have

726
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: got hurt. And then I see hard Time say Hardens

727
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: Time is supposed to be up on that first line,

728
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 2: not in the second line. Because what happens, like you said, guys,

729
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: if you notice Indiana, Okay, they starting to make a comeback.

730
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: Now they miss a shot. Guess what they can do,

731
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: get another opportunity because somebody ate somebody, get a rebound,

732
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: because you don't really have no size in it. Basically,

733
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: you got guard. All guards, you got shave of guard.

734
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: Lou Dart's a guard. Wallace is a guard. Weave of

735
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: a guard, and you hunger and laid like a gard,

736
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: like a guard. He wants to be a guard. You

737
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: don't like ll look, you know.

738
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: You know it's funny, is you know it's funny everybody,

739
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: everybody Already it seemed like they crown the Thunder before

740
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 4: the series even started. Now we're talking about now the

741
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: Thunder lose. They had the whole game one obviously until

742
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 4: the last three, two minutes, whatever it may have been. Now,

743
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 4: Joe and Corin, Brad even you said what they need

744
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: to do and do what they've always done the past

745
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 4: few series, starting their two bigs right now, you know

746
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 4: what's going. I'm gonna tell you howm gonna tell you

747
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: how the basketball guys work. They're gonna start their two

748
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 4: bigs and then get their ass ran off the goddamn

749
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 4: court and stopping. I'm telling you, listen, I guarantee you

750
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 4: that's what happens. It's just it's just the way in general.

751
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: It's just general.

752
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: Would you let me ask you a question, would you

753
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: rather lose your way or lose somebody else's way? I'd

754
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: rather lose my I got I got it, like Bred said,

755
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: I got it. I gotta dance for what got me there.

756
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: I'm not going to change. Let me see what they

757
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: got going on. And then I got a change of

758
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: clothes in the car. So if I over drop over dress,

759
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: I take my ass in the car and then I'll

760
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: talk back. But I toop fit to change.

761
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: You.

762
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: Hey, man, you're gonna be over dress. And then I

763
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: walk up in there with blue JS on. There's some

764
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: black tile fair. Nah, I'm gonna bring good change his

765
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: clothes and then I dress accordingly. See what's going on?

766
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 5: Now?

767
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: You boy? Where are you gonna change your clothes? At

768
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: you out in the car or yeah? Yeah, you know

769
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: we changed. We changed in the car. It ain't never

770
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: be there ain't never been no problem for us. I say, man,

771
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: but I was. But look, you gotta go back. I

772
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: mean the last time I think it was Lebron. I

773
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: think it's what twenty with that twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen

774
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: when he was hitting all those games winning. You remember

775
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: he hit that one against Indy and he hit that

776
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: one against Toronto and he played up HALLI burn. I don't.

777
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 2: I can't remember a guy hitting this many game winning

778
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: or game tying shots in one playoff run.

779
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: You're right, and you can see these plays though, and

780
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: Joe was good at this. I wasn't that dude, because

781
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: we had Larry Bird guys like that.

782
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: You want MVP in the final playing with Larry Bird,

783
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: what did you talk about? Well, I want pretty much

784
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 2: you bitch, I can tell you that.

785
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 3: But but but I know at the end of the game,

786
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: when that ball was going to be shot, I was

787
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 3: gonna be to get a rebound because you have birds

788
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: shooting the basketball. We look at Holly Burton right now,

789
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 3: this might be that this this is the craziest thing

790
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: we think about a guy that all the other players

791
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: in the NBA said it was the most over over

792
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: rated and now the steps up and kicking ass and

793
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: taking names every single game. That is ridiculous. And you

794
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: know it's coming you and I can see it. At

795
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: the end when they got the ball, I was like,

796
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 3: oh no, it's not Yeah, it can't happen to get

797
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: it can't happen again, No, it can't. Yeah, I mean

798
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 3: think about it. He's hit game winning shots.

799
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: He's hit game remember, hit the game winning layup against Milwaukee,

800
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 2: he hit the game hit two games when the shots

801
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: against Cleveland, hit the game win against the Knicks. Here

802
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: and here we are again. He's got five game winning

803
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: shots and if I'm not mistaking Hill, all of them

804
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 2: might be in this in this playoff run. He's been.

805
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 2: He's been phenomenal. Man I Padly has been great early

806
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: in the game for me, though, Guys, he he's not

807
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: aggressive enough.

808
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: It's like he just kind of he's so passive and

809
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 3: he let everybody else kind of make plays.

810
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 2: But let him hang around and he give him a

811
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: chance in that fourth quarter, he gonna come alive and

812
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: he obi top was Keto over copy was key tonight.

813
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: Let me how many times me ask you this, how

814
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: many times have you seen that from the great Michael

815
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 3: Jordan's games where he just coast along, get up with

816
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: other people involved, and then let the end of the game,

817
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: you know, with the sas that's gonna be. And because

818
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: he got other people involved in the game, now you

819
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: can't run away from the them parts.

820
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: You can't really wake from all these guys. My turn

821
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: had a huge three.

822
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: Everybody started hitting shots because now he had them involved.

823
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: They were confident and you could see the win just

824
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: being taken out of the cells of what was going on.

825
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: And okay, see it if for me this is Joe,

826
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: I'm like you about this, and I'm sure you guys

827
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: are like this in football.

828
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: My my best thing I used to love o cheb was.

829
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: I used to love when I went to somebody else's

830
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: arena and I saw damn kids start crying when they.

831
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: Would leave the game. I love it. It's like they

832
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: lost something like that was my that was my that

833
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: was my feet. I loved it. And you look at

834
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: a lay that ball game, nim hard, nim mart was

835
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: going one on one to give me the ball, to

836
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: kill me the ball. Hey, you know we're going that

837
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: folks he played with so he comfortable playing against Shay. Yeah.

838
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: They played on the same national team, so it ain't like,

839
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: you know, this ain't foreign to him. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

840
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: I got this because confidence was oozing out of him

841
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: late in the game. Oh Joe, the boy was getting

842
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: to it you hear me. Yeah, And they was breaking

843
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: down the defense so much that they were getting wide

844
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: open jumps. I'm like, man, what is okase doing? Joe?

845
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: How much that probably was tonight? Not that you're gonna

846
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: get it, but I'm just saying I.

847
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: Want I would have got twelve bands, man, I would

848
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 3: have somebody, get somebody, get just down to Alca Selson

849
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: because this stuff, this stuff running down after that shot

850
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: that holler feak.

851
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: It had to be some brown stuff running down his

852
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: leg because hold on, Joe, Joe, you was gonna lose

853
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 2: because they was favorite you. You didn't cover the spread. Man,

854
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't talking about no spread. I had a couple

855
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: of players who was gonna do what they were doing,

856
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: and I hot to win twelve thousand.

857
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, man for a little nothing too o, Joe. I

858
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: ain't bet but a little get one and you got

859
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: a little of nuhing.

860
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 2: So it's even Hey, hey, that would have been would

861
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: have been That would have been nice. But you talking

862
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: about for me? We could split that. No, no, no, no,

863
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: hey check this out, guys. Game one of the Pacers.

864
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: It was their fifth comeback victory from a defensit of

865
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 2: fifteen or more points in the twenty twenty five NBA Playoffs.

866
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: That's the most bad team in a single postseason since

867
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight. Check this out. The Pacers, the Bucks

868
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: had them. The Bucks were up seven points and the

869
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: final thirty five seconds, with a ninety eight percent chance

870
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: to win. They lost. They were The Cavaliers had them

871
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: down seven points in the final minute. What a ninety

872
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: six percent chance of winning, and they lost. The Knicks

873
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: had a ninety nine point seven percent win rate, up

874
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: fourteen in the final three minutes, they lost. The Thunder

875
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: had a ninety six percent chance to winning the game,

876
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: up nine in the final three minutes, The Pacers one.

877
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: All four. We in nineteen ninety eight, only four teams

878
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: have won a playoff game despite leading for the thirty

879
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: seconds or less. In nineteen ninety nine, the Spurs Game

880
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: two Western Conference Finals, they only led ten seconds. The

881
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: Maths two thousand and one, Game five in the first

882
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: round thirty seconds. Lakers Game four, West Finals two thousand

883
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: and two, thirteen seconds. Take the numbers.

884
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: Take the numbers, you just got, take it to the

885
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: nearest bathroom and go flip down the damn dorgan That's

886
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: what you do with them.

887
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: Today.

888
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: That's what I hate about all these guys right now

889
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: with all the stats joke, if we look at o

890
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: choke from deeper sort getting to a game, A game

891
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: is about heard at the end of the game, ball, baseball, whatever,

892
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: it is. All the analytics that we want to go

893
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: down all.

894
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 5: Three numbers you give Shannon, when you said ninety eight

895
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 5: percent this, that and the ninety eight you got to

896
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 5: have of balls at the ear and that's what wins games.

897
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: I don't care who you are. I seen that, so Joe.

898
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: I saw Joe put down uh Paul Pierce with a

899
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: hesitating dribble.

900
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: You remember that, lady. He was trying to steal the

901
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: ball from you, Joe, and you read I was like,

902
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: I was like damn, And I was like.

903
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: Teach im, like like yeah, damn, Paul, I said that,

904
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: I said, and and and then here's the worst thing

905
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: about it, Shannon. That game was in Boston, and when

906
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: Paul went down and didn't get the ball, I guess.

907
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: Bread bread, you know, you know Boston draftic me man,

908
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: I love coming back that crowd. It was nothing better

909
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 2: than that. It was nothing better than that. The placers

910
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: laid for a grand total of zero point three seconds.

911
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: Check this out call where you will love this stad

912
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 2: NBA teams were all in one twenty one went down

913
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: by seven more points and the five of three there's

914
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: a regulation in the NBA finals over the last twenty

915
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: eight post seasons. Wow, zero for one twenty one. Wow?

916
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: What does that do right now? Oh?

917
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 5: Oh, I know?

918
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 2: And they got this one for one twenty other.

919
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: Indian other's up one one game and now all the

920
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: pressure is on the young basketball team.

921
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: Now can they come back?

922
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: It's that possibility because I mean, I don't think I've

923
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: seen anybody Joe, you or I still on one.

924
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: This damn Shay is different. Hey, damn he he is.

925
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: He he's a let's use the word, we like you.

926
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: He's a bitch. That's how we were saying. Pople I

927
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: was playing against that. We build a besch that is

928
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: a best man. He's a bitch. Hey.

929
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: These boys out there playing though they are talking talking

930
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: about both teams guard wise, they they playing great, defensive, physical. Uh.

931
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: I love to see it. Man. The competition level is

932
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: at an all time high.

933
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: But man, okay, can't play that small ball against in there.

934
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, guys, they got all they got to

935
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: get back to the strong board.

936
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 4: Honestly, if you think about it and you look at

937
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: the way things have played out, not only doing the

938
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 4: regular season, you look look at the way things have

939
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: played out during the playoffs. The analytics, the stats, the numbers,

940
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: everything you drow, you've written down.

941
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: The way the game played to night. Do you not

942
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: see how the basketball guys have this thing lined up

943
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: for the Pacers to win? Can you not see it?

944
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: You can.

945
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: You can see it like it's playing itself out in

946
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 4: real time, and a lot of people are paying attention

947
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 4: to it because if they're not looking at the past,

948
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: they just listen.

949
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: It's right there for you.

950
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 4: So if you're a gambling man, if you're a gambling woman,

951
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 4: if you play in that world of Paul Ais and

952
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: all that stuff.

953
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: Bet your money with the Pacers. I don't do it.

954
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm telling jo Joe, that's why you lost the night

955
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: Kill Chill. They gonna bounce, They gonna they gotta bounce back.

956
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: They don't have a choice. No Passcal Yakam in game

957
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: one nineteen points, ten rebounds, joins Dale Davis as the

958
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: only Pacers with a fifteen to ten game in the finals.

959
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: Obie top in Game one seventeen points, five rebounds, five

960
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 2: may three pointers. Only Jie Miller has more three point

961
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 2: made in a game in franchise Finals history. Despite the loss,

962
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: Shaye dropped off almost a forty piece. He had thirty

963
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: eight points, five rebounds, three steals. That is the most

964
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 2: points in a Finals debut since Ai had forty eight

965
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 2: in Game one in the two thousand and one Finals

966
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: against the Lakers. He didn't really get no help though

967
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: on this No Shay after game on Game one loss,

968
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: he said, it's a forty eight mini game. The Pacers

969
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: teach you that lesson more than anyone else in the league,

970
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: the hard way. He's absolutely right. Yeah, yeah, he's right. Uh,

971
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: they gonna make you pay for the mistakes. And once

972
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: you get comfortable and you think it's over, they gonna

973
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: be steady fighting and swinging and they gonna catch you

974
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: and night night. It's hard to brand, you know, Like

975
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: it's hard to reverse that momentum. You let a team

976
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: get momentum. They see a couple go in and then

977
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: you missed a couple. God you start, man, I don't

978
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: want to shoot, just let somebody else say you take it.

979
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: I want it up and all of a sudden and

980
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: you're like, damn, he hit another one, winning their hard

981
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: turning to Kobe Bryant rest Kobe so man, Obie women

982
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: Obie topping, turning to Steph Curry. Yeah, well then you

983
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: know what happens. That is confidence from the coach.

984
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle is giving those guys the greenlight to play fast.

985
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 3: Rick Carlyle as as you would know Joe, And one

986
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: time it's more of a control guy, the way he

987
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: controlled his players. But now I talked to Quinn Buckner,

988
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: who does radio and television for those guys. He said,

989
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Rick carl said, Yo, guy, squad,

990
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: din play play the way you want to play, and

991
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 3: we're gonna win the basketball game because we're gonna be creative,

992
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna have tenacity, and we're gonna do

993
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 3: something that nobody thinks. Nobody in the NBA right now

994
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: thought this is going.

995
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: I looked at all there.

996
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: It's experts, especially a guy perk over there. Dog, Oh yeah,

997
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: somebody give mature shoes escalated. You know this is what

998
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this because this is what's gonna happen. Dude,

999
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: you got to play the game. You can't talk about it.

1000
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: You got to play the game.

1001
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, think about what you just said too early,

1002
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 4: not too long ago. Right about Holly Burden not being

1003
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 4: aggressive at the beginning of the game, being very passive.

1004
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: But look at the method to his madness, right, he's

1005
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: being passive, allowing everybody else to give themselves in the rhythm,

1006
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 4: allowing everybody else to gain that confidence that the game

1007
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 4: goes on. Then look at the shots they're hitting later

1008
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 4: on in the game. Shots count at the most opportune

1009
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 4: times where it matters most. And then what does Holly do.

1010
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he has that mama mentality. I'm just

1011
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 4: saying he's acting mamba like and even he's been doing

1012
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 4: it all playoffs, all playoff long.

1013
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: He asked, Hey, the chat is laughing. They want to know,

1014
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: corn bread Joe, who the real thirty one, real thirty

1015
00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: one right here, Joe, the real thirty one is retired

1016
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: up to the Boston Card. Dude. I know who you are, Joe.

1017
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: I believe in you.

1018
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 3: But between you and and now right now, there's only

1019
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 3: been thirty three guys in the history of the NBA been.

1020
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: The founds m DPA You're right right, it was. But

1021
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: the one thing, the one thing you could have done

1022
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: was at least put my initials into Jersey or something

1023
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: while hanging up there. You could have done something for you.

1024
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm on now, Yo, Yoe, you and I want together, baby.

1025
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: We went out together. Don't you worry about it. We

1026
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: went not to get. When I pulled it up, I

1027
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: was like, Joe Johnson, that's medium going up together. A

1028
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: because when I because when I see it in the

1029
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: rafts I show my kids, I'm like, yeah, that's that's

1030
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: that was my number right there, Daddy bad bread. I

1031
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie man. In eighty one when y'all came

1032
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: back on the sixers from that three one deficits, Yeah,

1033
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: that was sick. What the sake about that?

1034
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: Man?

1035
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: That was? That was as I still forgive a Daryld

1036
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: Donkey to call will Joe for that bull Jo.

1037
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: Help he hears that. It was one of the toughest

1038
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 3: series that I ever played. And and Shannon, I know

1039
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 3: you always talk about Joe and O Joe. You guys

1040
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: always talk about what you do the way you did.

1041
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: But if you've ever been I so on one on

1042
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: one with doctor j on the right right hand side

1043
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: of the lake, and you had eight thousand people starting

1044
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: to stand up. All you say the way something bad,

1045
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: something bad about half. So so I've been in them

1046
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 3: pressure situations.

1047
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: I know what it's like.

1048
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: But you're playing the Sixers and playing during those times

1049
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 3: during the eighties, and and watching.

1050
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 2: Joe play, and then the NBA now today it's changed

1051
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 2: from it. But where I thought it was. But tonight's

1052
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: game was more about the eighties. This was physical. That's

1053
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: the game. I'm knocking you around.

1054
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 3: This is what I loved about the game, and it

1055
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: seems like it always reverts back to that at the

1056
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: end of the day. The game reversed back to the

1057
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: physical play of the teams. And also he also it's

1058
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 3: a testament to the refs too. Somebody has to allow

1059
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: them boys to play. I'm not sure if they got

1060
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: the refs telling the rest listen, letting the boys play.

1061
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: Obviously in this series, don't interfere in the game, don't

1062
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: infit in the game unless it's an.

1063
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: Absolute foul and it just has to be called. Let

1064
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: it be physical. You don't see no blood.

1065
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: You don't see no blood, ain't nothing that was then

1066
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 3: I saw I saw that with Magic. I saw that worthy.

1067
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: You know, during the eighties, that's when they had they

1068
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: put in the lake rip foul because of the Laker

1069
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 3: Celtic series. What you did that boy job with with

1070
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: with Kevin mcka snatched Kurt Rabbits sayings out in the sky.

1071
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: You just bending for the rest of the season with

1072
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: them type of foul. Nowadays they were y'alls way lamp beer. Hey,

1073
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: you remember when lamb Beer came down to the bird? Yeah? Yeah, ye.

1074
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: You remember when you remember when Parris functioned about three

1075
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: or four times in the face that that's that was

1076
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant, God rest is soul. He was the one

1077
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: last dude that got the two peaks christ it hit

1078
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: and and dudes now they.

1079
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna fight. They don't want to know.

1080
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: I could tell you like this, it was just like

1081
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: yesterday when I think about the Lakers, and I said

1082
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: this last time I was on your show, I wouldn't

1083
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 3: give a Magic was walking across the street right now

1084
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 3: and six dogs were chasing him. I wouldn't call anybody.

1085
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: I'd get my damn phone out and damn take pictures

1086
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 3: of That's that's how you and all them guys I

1087
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: hate those guys, Joe, you and not playing in the air. Well,

1088
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: we didn't change yours and and shen you played in

1089
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: the era. Now you see guys after a game, they

1090
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 3: all holding up the other guy's jersey.

1091
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: God just kicked your ASDs. You hold up in jersey? Yeah, hey, look,

1092
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: you couldn't hear no jersey. You don't got three picks

1093
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: on me. You think I would? Hey, man, let me

1094
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: get that jersey. Hell no, I don't want it.

1095
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on corn Bread,

1096
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 4: back back back then, Bread, when y'all was playing in

1097
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 4: the eighties, did y'all y'all run friends outside of the

1098
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 4: game of basketball? He'll know, man, we first of all, Ojoe,

1099
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 4: we ain't hand no damn cell phones, so we know

1100
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 4: we couldn't get a guy's phone number.

1101
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: And I didn't know a guy like that. I didn't

1102
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: want to know. And I'll tell you what I didn't do, Joe.

1103
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: This is what I didn't do. Oh, Joe, this is

1104
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: what I didn't do. I wasn't going to pray with

1105
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: another guy before chop or or doing that.

1106
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing that. He better pray. I don't hit

1107
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: him in the back of something.

1108
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: That's what I had to have a head, bro, I

1109
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: didn't believe all that, Like, well, my brother were gonna

1110
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: do the noue. And that's why I respect. What Dreaymond

1111
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: Green does from time to time crosses the line. And

1112
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 3: he had with me during the series where they played

1113
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 3: this othern when he kicked Jaylen Brown in the head,

1114
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 3: and I just have him to tell it. I said

1115
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: it on the air, said if he didn't been during

1116
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: during the eighties, and that would have happened. Oh somebody wanted,

1117
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 3: somebody would to find his ass up. But but what

1118
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: he does now, Dudes, don't do that. Joe. You know

1119
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: there was a thing if you follow the guy, if

1120
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 3: you file the guy hard, you knew what was gonna happen.

1121
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: You knew what you knew who was coming off the bench,

1122
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: and you go down for the layup. You already knew

1123
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: what was gonna happen. It's too much money to lose now, bread, Damn,

1124
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: I ain't throwing no punches. He does make so much

1125
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: money nowadays.

1126
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: They get suspended for ten fifteen games, that's four five

1127
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: million dollars.

1128
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get you about to go gay, bro, Hey,

1129
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: don't do that. No more man.

1130
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: But I don't want to do that. I don't want

1131
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: to I don't want to lose this. But I don't

1132
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: want to lose this, buddy, He shouting, Why shouting up?

1133
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 3: Why are you saying that?

1134
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: You know you?

1135
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 3: I that that thing that showed me who you were.

1136
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: I've seen you play football before show moved.

1137
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: You were playing football. But that thing you did when

1138
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: you were in l A at that game, that adn't

1139
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 2: tell me nothing. What things about losing money?

1140
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: Oh?

1141
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: No, whether the thing was though, like when we played

1142
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: back when I came up, Oh, you cheap shot what

1143
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: I got? Oh, We're gonna get your ass back. Don't

1144
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: worry about don't you worry about it?

1145
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: Hey car bred, Hey uncle about to come up by

1146
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 4: that at that sweater man A thousand dollars cardigan he

1147
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 4: had on that's where it was hold on.

1148
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: Bread. How much it was four thousand? He told us.

1149
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: He said there was four thousand dollars. So you know,

1150
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: you know he was in He was in Beverly Yields.

1151
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: That's why it was. He wasn't shopping like me. I

1152
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: go to the door rat, That's why I go.

1153
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: He was he was like he was in the real Lord,

1154
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: he was in Beverly Hill some place, or Dale drive

1155
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: by something like that.

1156
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: I don't even know where you find him like that

1157
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: the first time Dollar Cardigan. I ain't ever heard of that.

1158
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: Who that was about? Uncle made that? Ain't nobody made it?

1159
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: Man the volume mm hm