WEBVTT - Fw:Thinking in 3D 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:07.280 Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:14.560 Forward Thinking. Hey, they you're welcome to or Thinking, the 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.360 podcast that looks at the future and says something witty. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:21.480 I'm Jonathan Strickland, Lauren fock o'bama, I'm Joe McCormick, and 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.759 today we wanted to talk about some of the gimmicks 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:32.080 and techniques used in Really in cinema is mostly in film, 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.800 and there's some television bleedover as well other entertainment forms. Yeah, 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.279 but we really wanted to talk about what it's like 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:42.279 to create an experience for a film beyond just these 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:46.280 are moving images or apparently moving images and sound that's 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.839 coming at you. And uh, to really start with that, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.600 I guess, I guess would be fun to talk about 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:55.320 some of the wacky, crazy ones that theater, uh, theater 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:00.200 owners and and film producers experimented with, mainly like back 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:04.640 in the fifties and sixties. Yeah, older listeners might remember 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.880 traces of some of these. But if you've seen some 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.640 movies like Mattenee, which has a character who is very 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.960 much like William Castle, we'll be talking about about Castle. Uh, 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.120 if you've seen that, then you may be familiar with 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:19.720 some of these as well. I think this was mostly 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.960 driven back when television started to come out in movie 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.160 theaters were panicking a little bit and going like, no 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.120 one will come see movies anymore. Everyone has this television 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.600 in their house, even though it's only a twelve inch screen. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.880 We we need to do something impressive. This is uh, 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.119 this may sound really familiar to people today because it's 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.640 the same sort of stuff we see movie the movie 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.760 industry thinking about now in the in the realm of 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.440 the digital world. But you know, we'll get into that 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.640 kind of stuff. So some of these crazy gimmicks. Huh. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:51.840 How about smellow vision? How about did you guys? Did 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:56.760 you guys see what? What was the earliest example Not 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.200 not of smellow vision itself, because that was that was 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:03.960 technically patented, but the idea of the idea of coupling 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.320 smells with viewing of something in the cinema. What was 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:12.200 the earliest example you found? Do you know? I know what? 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.920 I can tell you what here? Nineteen o six was 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:23.880 the earliest example. It was it was according to the source, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.560 it was a Pennsylvania theater owner who used a fan 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.639 to diffuse the smell of rose oil while showing off 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:36.640 footage of a Rose Bowl football game American football. So 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.840 it was just this idea of trying to create a 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.680 more immersive experience theoretically or released by rumor, Disney was 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:50.760 looking into incorporating smells in the cinematic experience, but ultimately 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:57.040 dismissed it for being too expensive and not reliable enough. Disney, huh, yeah, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:01.880 didn't stop other people from trying. I mean, I'm sorry, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:08.359 it's just so stupid. What smell a Vision really? I mean, 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:13.280 it's that's obvious, but it No, what's not obvious is 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.560 the extent of the stupidity. What on earth? I mean, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:22.280 it's it's like a joke. Well, I can't believe this 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.520 was real. I don't know, Joe. I'm not so harsh 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.680 on it as you are, but that's because I've I've 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:31.880 had this, I've seen seen I've smelled this sort of 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.640 approach in other forms, not not movies. I've never gone 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.400 to a Smell a Vision film, although I think I 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.040 did go to something at the University of Georgia Midnight 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.960 Movie where they handed out scratch and sniff uh little 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.600 uh pamphlets for a film, and if I'm not mistaken, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:54.480 it was pink flamingos anyway, so well, no smell. A 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.320 vision itself was invented and patented by a guy UH 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:04.560 named Hans Slaub and was used in a film. The first, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.400 the earliest version I could see that was used in 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.280 the actual commercially released film, was in nineteen fifty nine 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:15.680 and the movie was called Scent of Mystery. Of course 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.440 it was right, and apparently the smells involved things like 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.400 pipe tobacco, the smell of pipe tobacco, and then use 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.839 special pipes to pipe in smells into the theater. Now, Joe, 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.760 I agree, like if I were watching a movie, I 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.240 would just find this distracting. I wouldn't necessarily find it immersive. However, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:37.239 I have been to things like um certain like amusement parks. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.280 Disney has a few amusement parks where they have three 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.440 D movies where they will pipe in smells when something 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.720 is happening. Or on Spaceship Earth at Epcot, which was 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.960 opened in nineteen eight two, I believe they have a 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.800 couple of different portions of the ride where you know 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.480 you're going through an orange groves, they pump in orange 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.120 scent or yeah yeah, and then there's a Sore in 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.040 which in Florida is called Sore and over californ In 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.600 California it's just called Son. But it's a ride where 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.240 you are it's like you're gliding over the landscape of California, 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.479 and as you go over certain landscapes, they pipe in 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.200 certain smells, like if you're gliding over a pine forest, 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.000 you get the pine smell. Over an orange grove it's oranges, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:22.000 you know over Yeah, and despair, Yeah, those are the 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.120 smells you get over l a U point. We were 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:28.279 winning fans all over the place today. So anyway, you know, 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.280 it's something that has been used. I don't think it 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.479 will ever go anywhere beyond novelty. I mean, it was 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.000 obviously something that was meant to try and grab people. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.479 There's funny because there was a competing technology at the 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.400 same time as smell, a vision called a roma rama 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:50.400 I'm not kidding, and they had they had. I think 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.640 we all lost, Joe, I think we all lost. Not 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.760 only did not only are those no longer really active, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.880 but I'm sure there were some spectacular failures. I mean, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.280 there's lots of psychological research about how closely we associate 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:09.239 memories with smells and how deeply people do associate smells 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.440 with feelings, and that therefore, you know, I think that 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.240 the reasoning here somewhere was a we need a gimmick 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.479 and be I think the problem is that most people 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:18.560 be like you remember that stinky movie we saw a 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.600 few years ago. Um, so when you're listening to this 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.920 forward thinking podcast, remember to drive past a paper mill. 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.760 You can drive wonderful memories. Drive past my hometown which 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:34.320 was not was sandwich between paper mills and chicken uh farms. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.760 So I would say that that really what we smell 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:43.600 like is is mints, warm, electronics and occasion occasionally t 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.479 but not today. All right, So let's talk about some 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.560 of the other gimmicky stuff. So I mentioned William Castle. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:56.000 William Castle, Yes, he was known, famous, famous for coming 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.360 up with these really gimmicky things to try and pull 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.800 people into the theater. So if you don't know William Castle, 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.000 you've probably the one. You would know his house on 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:07.080 Haunted Hill, right. He did some He did some stuff 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.280 that has you know, not not even cult following, like 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.360 legitimate film like it like this is this is a 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.360 movie that you wouldn't necessarily call it a great film, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.000 but it's such a great example of a certain era 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.120 and a certain type of movie making that it's it's 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.520 got a warm place in many critics. Hearts House on 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:29.720 Haunted Hill is I mean cheesy as hell, plastic skeletons 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.120 and all that, but it's it's fun. Yeah, you should 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.600 see it, you know, so filmically it I'd say it's 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.040 interesting at least, but you know, it's pretty high art 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:42.480 for that kind of got Vincent Price just doing his thing, 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.360 ye yep, being being super Vincent Price in that movie, 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.280 like Vincent Price at his priceiest. I don't know that 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.240 he actually charged a lot for that film. But uh, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:58.680 you mentioned The Tingler, which used percepto, and Percepto was 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:01.559 a gimmick that Castle came up with that was very clever. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.280 So the Taklers actually even worse of a gimmicks and 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.880 smell a vision. I love this this gimmick, It's so ridiculous. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.160 So The Tingler was a movie about this this weird 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.000 parasite that could attach itself to people's spines and you 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.800 would kill them by screaming. The idea that if you 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.200 screamed that they couldn't handle that and they would fall 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.960 over dead. But they you would get this weird, tingling, 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.520 shocking sensation if they were to attach themselves to you. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.440 And in the movie and the course of the film, 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.800 the narrator says that there's one of these alien creatures 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.240 has escaped and made its way into the very theater 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.320 that you are sitting in. That's incredible. So what William 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:44.040 Castle did was they did not believe that. So Castle 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:49.920 went to several theaters and convinced okay, alright, settle down, children, 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.880 Castle into several theaters and convince them to install these 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.839 these little vibrating motors that would cause the seats to 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.560 vibrate at a very high frequency, almost like it was 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:06.440 an electric shock. If you think it was time, well, 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.400 I mean it wasn't. I guess it could scare you, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.520 but it couldn't actually hurt you. It's like, have you 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.800 ever been to, uh, you know, an arcade or one 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.160 of those amusement part places where they have the thing about, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.760 you know, do you dare to hold onto these electrodes. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.720 It's it's usually set up so it looks like it's 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.480 an electric chair, and the it's all based on like 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.040 the your sense of fear and daring, like are you 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.120 going to hold on as the as it continues to 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.959 increase the voltage. Well, there's no actual electric current running 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:36.720 through you. No one wants to get sued. It's just 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.640 little motors that are vibrating, just like the ones that 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.160 you have in your typical cell phone. But the idea 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.760 was they put these underneath the seats, and the projectionist 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.080 was supposed to activate these buzzers at this point in 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.439 the movie so that people sitting there in the theater 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.520 would suddenly think, oh, I'm being attacked by a tingler 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.760 and they have to scream. And you don't even have 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.720 to install them on all the seats. You just have 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.760 to do a good scattering of the seats so that 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.720 you hatch a few people they start screaming against everyone. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.600 Screaming makes it an interactive experience, and the Castle was 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.560 hoping that would mean that there'll be more butts in 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.760 those seats as opposed to butts jumping out of the 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:15.000 seats because there's somethly buzzing. Um. It was called Percepto. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.079 That was the name of that particular gimmick. There was 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.280 another one called illusion. Oh. I think he might be 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:26.080 detecting a trend with William Castle's approach. So illusion, oh, 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.760 was similar to what I'll be talking about when we 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.000 get to three D. Spoiler alert, We will be talking 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.000 about three D in this episode. But you know, the 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:40.000 the traditional, the old style three D glasses, the anaglyph glasses, 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.880 the ones that would have a red lens in a 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.760 cyan lens. He gave filters that were similar to this, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.120 So it wasn't it wasn't a pair of three D glasses. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.440 It was like a little piece of cardboard and you 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.280 would view the movie through one of the two lenses, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.120 either the blue one or the red one. And the 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.200 reason for this was that it was for a film 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.800 called thirteen Ghosts, and if you were to use the 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.760 blue one, I think it was the blue one, it 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.880 would filter out the ghosts because the ghosts were all 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.080 in blue, so you couldn't that that would show up 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.800 as white if you're looking through a blue filter, so 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.599 you wouldn't see the ghosts through the blue filter. But 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.280 if you were to look through the red filter, you 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.960 could see all the ghosts because they would show up 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.199 as as black instead of white. And so, uh, you know, 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.400 if you wanted to be terrified, you would look through 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.480 the red lens but if you were too scared, you 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.160 can look through the blue lens and just watch his 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.040 characters are reacting to absolutely nothing on screen as far 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:34.439 as you can tell. Again, total gimmick, but an interesting 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.440 little approach to trying to make movies more than just 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:42.680 and something you could replicate at home. Uh. That that 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.280 gets us into the idea of the four D experiences 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:46.960 that we've I've kind of alluded to with some of 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.800 the Disney rides. Disney is big about this with their 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.079 three D stuff. They have a three D film called 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:53.880 It's Tough to Be a Bug, which is based on 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:58.720 the characters from a bug's life. Um, and that involves 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.920 things like smell like a stink bug at one point 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.600 goes off, so you get sprayed with a stinky kind 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:10.280 of smell. Uh. There's also part where rain drops are falling, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:11.840 so you get hit by a little bit of water. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.520 There's a bit where hornets are flying around, you get 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.760 poked in the back. There's there's a there's not really 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.360 a sharp stick by the way, spoiler alert for anyone 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.559 who was playing on saying this and hasn't yet. They're 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.559 also the best part, I think is at the very 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.320 end where the lights go off, and then it tells 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.760 I think flick tells the cockroaches that's time to clear out. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:36.760 And they're a little actuators on the seat underneath where 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.640 your butt is, and then those go off and so 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.240 you feel like this movement under your butt of the 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:48.600 cockroaches running away. My wife refuses to watch this because 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.440 she is really really scared of bugs, even cartoon ones. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.760 She's gonna kill me that I said this. Unfortunately, I 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.719 don't think she listens to my podcast, so I think 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:02.120 I'm okay, but um and that you know that those 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.719 sort of gimmicks are still kind of uh around, but 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.760 for the most part they're limited to things like amusement 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.959 parks or or specific experience something where you can build 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:17.040 out a theater to include those like a again at Disney, 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.000 the the Alien Encounters ride that I think is now 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.760 Lelo and Stitch themed, but the same uses the same 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.760 sort of stuff though in both cases. Yeah, where where 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.920 something's a permanent installations that you're not wasting money having, 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.560 you know, a theater tech put buzzers underneath all your 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.680 seats right for one for one movie and then you 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.119 never use it again. Yeah. There there's some other examples 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.920 of stuff that was used in a more trying trying 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.920 to roll it out in a more wide format, like 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.840 a sense around. You guys have heard, I'm sure the 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.040 term sense around. Sense around is not the same thing 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.600 as surround sound. Okay. Sence around was essentially using sub 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:56.080 woffers to generate super low frequency sounds like very low 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.080 on the base register, lower than what most people would 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.800 be able to hear. Knowing that there are always outliers 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.880 in the human experience, so some people can hear frequencies 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.760 beyond what most of us can hear. But you could 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:12.160 feel it because you know, sound is a physical, physical effect, 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.400 and so it's that low, low, low rumbling where it 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.480 makes your seat rumble, and in fact was rolled out 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.880 along with the film Earthquake. But Earthquake came out around 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.920 the same time as another film that was received pretty 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:31.160 well called Godfather Too, and so apparently there were a 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.920 lot of complaints from Godfather to viewers who were saying, like, 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.560 I wanted to enjoy the movie, but the earth kept 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.600 quaking because of your sense around system that you had 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.120 installed in the next theater next door showing Earthquake. Yeah, 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.160 a lot of bleed over there. Because it was just 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.480 this low rumbling and uh, you know low rumbling and earthquake. Fine, 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:55.960 Godfather too, not so great. Um So, but there's there 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.080 are other theaters right now that are installing things. I 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.680 know there's one in at least one in Austin. Uh 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.320 and I'm sure there are theaters and and very there 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.040 has to be one in l A. I don't know 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.800 if any in Georgia that are installing seats that give 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.560 haptic feedback as you watch a movie, where they'll vibrate 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.760 along with the soundtrack. Like there's one company called trimmer 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.120 f X that does these where they'll install these seats where, 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.000 uh like, if a gun shot goes off, you'll actually 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.040 feel a little impact on your back. Or if someone 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.120 is like in a horror movie and you can hear 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.880 their heartbeat, the seat will throb at the same frequency 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.280 as the heartbeat, that kind of stuff. Uh. I was 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.360 thinking while you were saying that that this is how 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.720 it sounds stupid, sounds like a fad, but actually haptic 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.720 feedback is caught on in other realms, like the Rumble 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:51.440 controllers totally standard. And I would say that um as 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:55.800 a as a survival horror gamer fan, or game fan 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.280 the gamers are nice to um uh, you know know, 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.040 having a having that that feedback when when your heart 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.440 is beating is is a really useful for not having 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.520 to look off the screen or to a corner of 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.400 the screen to a to to see what your health 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:13.040 meters like can be. Um, it's so scary, it's so immediately. Well, yeah, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.240 they've actually turned that into a true gameplay element where 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.720 it's not just enhancing, it's become part of the gameplay 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.440 like there are Another good example is a game where 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.880 you are trying to complete a particular task and the 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.560 controller will rumble as you get closer to failing that task. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.480 So it's an actual alert system telling you, hey, you're 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:37.160 you're you're doing this wrong. You need to rethink it. Um. 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.760 I do this all the time as I play things 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.280 like Skyrim and I'm trying to pick to pick a lock, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:47.320 you know. Um, it's useful stuff. So we've talked about 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.680 all these gimmicks. Yeah, here's the real question. Okay, I 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:58.240 think three D all right, uh, mega high definition, high 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:02.600 frame rates. Are these true advances that are going to 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:06.240 stick around and stand the test of time, or are 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.960 they gimmicks like the others. Uh, let's take them case 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.480 by case, right, So let's start with three D. I 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.840 have to start off going on the record, don't like it. 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.000 Joe does not like three D. Not a fan, I 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:24.000 I don't. I don't mind it. I prefer if I 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:25.879 have the chance to see a movie not in three D, 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.399 I take it. Um. But but but but I did. 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.800 But I did very much enjoy core Line and three 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.399 D because I have read the book multiple times. I 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.439 wasn't needing to pay attention to the story, and it 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.000 was pretty well. I like if a movie was made 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.920 with three D in mind, I enjoy the three D experience. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:44.920 If it's a movie that's been converted for three D, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.000 I almost never enjoy that. I also did enjoy my 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.720 Bloody Valentine in three D because, like Ladies, head went 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.280 right at the screen. Okay, here's my one exception. Yeah, 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.480 if if the three D is treated as a joke 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.120 in a stupid movie, be like Jaws three D. Yeah, okay, 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.840 or I was thinking Friday the Thirteen Part three example. Yeah, 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.159 on the third, movies have to be in three D, 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.879 oh they just do. They somehow often fall in a 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:17.400 three D craze. Um. So if the movie is horrible anyway. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.119 If the movie itself is sort of a novelty or 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.160 a gimmick, I can sort of get behind it. Then 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:26.080 anything where I at all want to feel immersed in 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.680 the storytelling and has any real dramatic element I am. 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.040 I think three D is just stupid. I don't like 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.120 it at all. It takes me out of it very much. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.400 It all makes me more aware that I'm watching a movie. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.680 It all depends on the the the execution. For me. 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.640 In some cases, I've really much enjoyed that where I 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:51.040 wasn't you know, after that initial oh, this is three D, 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.119 I just totally forgot about and enjoyed the film for 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.360 what it was. And then there are other cases, like 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.960 I've seen some nature films that were shot in three 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.720 D that were gorgeous because you could get this crazy 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.119 depth of field, and it was really more about the depth, 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.679 not stuff coming out at you. That's the way a 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.480 lot of those early three D implementations were right. It's 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:14.679 the it's it's it's the character saying here, take my 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.320 hand and reaching out at the screen the way nobody does. 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.200 More often, it's like, have some coffee reached towards the screen. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.439 My favorite ones Jaws three D, where it was a 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.199 hypodermic needle where they're testing the needle by you know, 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.720 squirting out just a little bit from it. And so 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.800 they they hold the needle right out to the camera 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.359 and then squirt it. And it's hilarious to see those 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.520 movies not in three D because they're just all these 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.639 random shots that are lingering for way too long and 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.000 are just completely unnatural. Yeah, um okay, But so we 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.600 we've sort of blended all three D together. Three D 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:51.840 actually has had some fairly distinct technological uh phases. Let's 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.240 talk about what's happening first. So, so it was was 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:59.000 stereoscopic first. Anaglyph really was first. The anaglyph glasses, which 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.919 are the red blue that you're red. Science. But but 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.040 to understand how these all work, let's just because they 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:09.720 all followed the same basic premise. It's just that they 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.480 do it in different ways. And that premise is to 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:17.000 present each eye with its own set of images, and 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:18.840 then your brain does all the rest of the work. 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.960 Your brain takes in these two sets of images and 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:25.000 combines it into a full picture, just the way our 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:29.000 actual eyes work all the time. So for three D 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.480 to work. First of all, you need two eyes. So 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.320 you need two eyes, and you need to have relatively 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:38.240 normal vision. It's it's the idea that our eyes are 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.960 positioned on our heads in such a way that they 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:45.919 are taking in information from slightly different positions binocular vision right, 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.480 So your left eying right eye, because they're not located 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.560 immediately on each other, means that the information they're receiving 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.000 is slightly different. So if I'm looking at an object, 0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:00.480 my eyes converge on that object, and then the information 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.640 I get back lets me make judgments like how far 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.320 away that object is. There are other cues that also 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.879 tell us how far away something is, things like perspective 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.000 and all that kind of stuff. But parallax, which is 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:12.480 what I'm talking about right here, is a big one. 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:17.000 The further away an object is, the closer to parallel 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:21.120 your eyes are, and so parallax becomes less and less important. 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.639 It's really more important for things that are within like 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.080 a couple hundred feet of you, and the closer it is, 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.240 the more your eyes are converging on that point. So 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.400 that's the basis for the three D films. They want 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.520 to present you with these two sets of images that 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.639 are engineered in such a way as to give you 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:43.240 the illusion that an object is closer or further away 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.760 from you, the viewer. And it's important to do this 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:52.040 so that it estimates about how far apart the average 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.760 person's eyes are, which is why two people could go 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.000 into a three D movie. One person thinks it's a 0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:00.400 great effect and the other person doesn't because one person's 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.119 eyes are closer to the average as far as the 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.560 spacing goes than the other person. That can totally happen 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.240 now and a glyph glasses. The red blue ones are 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:12.600 those old ones that you think about when you see, 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.360 you know, any any sort of like the nineteen fifties 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.120 people all gasping in their seats as something is coming 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.800 out of the screen. Um And essentially it uses the 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:24.520 same sort of technique that that filter approach did, the 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:28.919 one I talked about illusion oh with William Castle. So 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.720