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Speaker 1: fm to get started. Episode number fifteen of the Mets

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Speaker 1: Up podcast, and it is. It's a rollercoaster of emotions.

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Speaker 1: We're kind of doing this weird thing on the podcast

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Speaker 1: got dips, we got ebbs, we got flows, and right

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Speaker 1: now it's definitely a little bit down. We just finished

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Speaker 1: up a three game series against the Tampa Bay Rays

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Speaker 1: and like the other host of this podcast, James said

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Speaker 1: last week, there's a chance that the raiser gonna pants us,

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Speaker 1: there's a chance they're gonna embarrass us, very good chance

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get swept and what do you know, the

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Speaker 1: race swept us and outside of Game one it wasn't

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Speaker 1: really close. So there's definitely some things to talk about

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Speaker 1: in this series, as there always is, good things, bad things,

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Speaker 1: some injuries that are very concerning right now with this

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Speaker 1: New York Mets team. But I don't think that we're

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Speaker 1: necessarily down. I don't think that we're necessarily feeling negative.

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Speaker 1: It's just that there are a few causes for concern,

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Speaker 1: and more so as the team structure and the team

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Speaker 1: roster as a whole is where it really comes down to.

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Speaker 1: you can find out. James, how are you feeling. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you kind of called it. You're hit the nail right

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Speaker 1: on the head. The Rays embarrassed us this weekend. Not good.

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Speaker 2: I did kind of call it. This is the worst

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Speaker 2: Mets to play poorly. I don't want the Mets of

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Speaker 2: lose games. I really don't like seeing the Mets get swept,

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Speaker 2: and they it was worse than being swept. We got pantsed.

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Speaker 2: Mats are more or less embarrassed for their last I

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Speaker 2: don't know, fourteen fifteen innings of baseball wasn't even close.

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Speaker 2: It was all together awful series, and the entire tide shifted.

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Speaker 2: I felt like Game one later in the game, during

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so game one, that's where we'll get a started.

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Speaker 1: As always, Peterson versus class now and on paper, you're

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Speaker 2: this was the best version of David Peterson we've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: On Friday night, when Zannino came to the plate, I

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Speaker 1: Because of course the Mets end up losing this game.

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Speaker 2: It's just it was.

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Speaker 1: It was so frustrating. It felt so good to get

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Speaker 1: To get runs off Glass now, who is just, straight up,

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, maybe this Mets team really is

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Speaker 2: The key a getting runs off glass now, which has

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Speaker 2: We've been playing very well. Is the bottom of the

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Speaker 2: Johnathan VR and Kevin Polar. They've been probably our two

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Speaker 1: Bench mob, bench Mob stepping up. And what's funny is

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Speaker 1: Was it was? It a damis no was your boy,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm singing more praise for you, Duke and man well, Margo,

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Speaker 2: almost like he continues to rake on the Mets just

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Speaker 2: to spite us.

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Speaker 1: Oh he spites us hard. We just get screwed. Every

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Speaker 1: single time we play him, he turns into a better

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Speaker 1: trade talks, which craziness. That's an insane trade. It was

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Speaker 1: Margo and Hedges for Cinderguard, which thank god the incompetent

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Speaker 1: Mets offices of past did not make that trade, although

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Speaker 2: he crushed us this series, and he has forever. But

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Speaker 2: great fielding center fielders are few and far between a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Phillips, the guy who walked us off.

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Speaker 1: He should be every single Pirates fan should be able

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Speaker 1: He's just like, there's no way that you can look

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Speaker 2: Bad, not even close.

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Speaker 1: No, So Game one frustrating, really really frustrating because that

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. He might have gotten us into

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Speaker 1: a little trouble or got out of it whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: We were little bit disgruntled in the middle of this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were a little disgruntled because of just where

437
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Speaker 1: it was and where it ended up being after luke Zy.

438
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Speaker 1: So and that's the main focus. But Tommy Hunter again, fine,

439
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Speaker 1: good whatever. The bullpen guys did their job all except

440
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Speaker 1: Lukezy up until that point. And then our boy Jacob

441
00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,680
Speaker 1: Barnes looked a little bit more like Jacob Barnes again.

442
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Speaker 1: That was not good.

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Speaker 2: No One quick comment about Reid Foley that he his

444
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Speaker 2: stuff wasn't didn't really probably look as sharp as this

445
00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,840
Speaker 2: game because his velocity was down across the board. He

446
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Speaker 2: has been getting a lot of work in down in Syracuse,

447
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Speaker 2: so this might have just been like a not enough

448
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Speaker 2: rest situation. I think the last time he pitched was

449
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Speaker 2: following I want to say, yea mother start, but I'm

450
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Speaker 2: not positive about that, but his fastball was down almost

451
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Speaker 2: two miles an hour. Slider was down a whole two

452
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Speaker 2: miles an hour on his yearly averages, and that made

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Speaker 2: him look very, very mor though. He only had two

454
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Speaker 2: whiffs in the game, which is far below his season average.

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Speaker 2: So I'd like to make sure that Sean Reid Foley

456
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Speaker 2: has the velocity back next time out, because this could

457
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Speaker 2: be an injury fear something going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like that happened with a lot of

459
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Speaker 1: Mets pitchers. V Low was down. Is this a crazy comment,

460
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Speaker 1: but like maybe the guns are a little different in Tampa.

461
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Speaker 1: Then when we've got going on in New York are

462
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Speaker 1: the Are we closer to sea levels or something going

463
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Speaker 1: on there? In Tampa we're a little lower elevation. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: the dome even who knows Jacob Bartines though didn't record

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Speaker 1: an out. Yeah, that was not good, not good, familiar,

466
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Speaker 1: then came in, tried to clean it up. Looked human.

467
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Speaker 1: He again, I don't feel like anybody really still hits

468
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Speaker 1: the ball hard off of him, but they're just finding it.

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Speaker 1: Hits hits, hits is kind of what I put in

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Speaker 1: the notes because I think he gave up like three

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Speaker 1: in an inning, which feels like kind of the theme

472
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Speaker 1: for him this year, his hits. But it was it

473
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Speaker 1: was a lost cause that game at that point, it

474
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Speaker 1: was just a very deflating game. After Lucas blows.

475
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Speaker 2: The hard work that the Mets did, it just it

476
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Speaker 2: was very deflating, especially after the Mets had an early lead.

477
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Speaker 2: The Mets. I was surprised that the Mets gets h McLanahan,

478
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Speaker 2: even though they hit a couple of bombs off him.

479
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Speaker 2: You could just see how electric his stuff is so good,

480
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Speaker 2: like this guy sooner rather than later going to be

481
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Speaker 2: one of the better pitchers in baseball. That ninety eight

482
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Speaker 2: from the West sides like shocking. This is this is

483
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Speaker 2: what everyone thought Steven mass was supposed to be.

484
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Speaker 1: Yes was Shane McClanahan. And it's not even close explaining

485
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Speaker 1: the Phillies and he's on the Blue Jays. But we

486
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Speaker 1: don't have to talk about that. Lindor got a homer,

487
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Speaker 1: and I think there's something to note there that he

488
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Speaker 1: hit another homer right handed, and he's just been so

489
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Speaker 1: much better as right handed batter this year as opposed

490
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Speaker 1: to the left. At the left side, he looks lost

491
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Speaker 1: he has like a five P fifty ops. Super small

492
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Speaker 1: sample size, so you can't dig too much into it,

493
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Speaker 1: but I think it is noteworthy that he has looked

494
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Speaker 1: so much better right handed that he has lefty A

495
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Speaker 1: couple homers ops is around nine hundred. I don't know

496
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Speaker 1: is this and he's not like a guy for his

497
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Speaker 1: career either who's been significantly better one way or the other.

498
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Speaker 1: Just seems like something's off left handed, He's looked he

499
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Speaker 1: looked lost this weekend. Again.

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Speaker 2: Something important to note about Lindor and that is something

501
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Speaker 2: that people like Keith people on Twitter professionals have mentioned

502
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Speaker 2: about why he struggling is mechanics. So when you have

503
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Speaker 2: bad mechanics as a switch hither, you need to work

504
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Speaker 2: on two different sets of mechanics. So he may have

505
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Speaker 2: found his groove so far from the right side, but

506
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Speaker 2: they're still struggling to get that with the left, which

507
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Speaker 2: I think just from the eye test is something that

508
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Speaker 2: is true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not looking up from the left hand side

510
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Speaker 1: like at all he's got I think just as many

511
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Speaker 1: extra base hits are close to it from the right

512
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Speaker 1: hand side and about seventy less played appearances, so that's

513
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Speaker 1: not great. Overall, bad game, not a whole lot to

514
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Speaker 1: talk about their positive.

515
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Speaker 2: There's nothing really fun to talk about in this game

516
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Speaker 2: at all. We didn't even have a starting pitcher, so

517
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Speaker 2: I can't break anything down. No, we didn't really get

518
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Speaker 2: many hits after what like the fifth inning.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah it was it was Lindor's home run, was about it.

520
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: It was gross, and the Races jumped on us.

521
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Speaker 1: They literally we got bum rushed, jumped down our throats,

522
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Speaker 1: they got to our bad pitching, which it was. Again

523
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Speaker 1: it was our c team lineup out there. When you're

524
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Speaker 1: going Lukezy, Reid Foley, Jacob Barnes, you're usually thinking you're

525
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Speaker 1: losing that game or you're up by twenty five runs,

526
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Speaker 1: so whatever.

527
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Speaker 2: And the Mets are short three aces right now. We

528
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Speaker 2: can't really understate that fact. This rotation looks a lot

529
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Speaker 2: different with Jacob de Gram, Noi Sindergarten, carls carrasco in it. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 2: so I think a reason not to be terrified or

531
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Speaker 2: panicky about this team's play this weekend specifically and moving forward,

532
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Speaker 2: because you don't have those three guys. It's like the

533
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Speaker 2: Mets are gonna have two, well not only two, because

534
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Speaker 2: the ground's pitching all year. Hopefully, Yeah, he pitches next week,

535
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Speaker 2: given the ball Penny's gonna throw on Tuesday. A team

536
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Speaker 2: announced today, but you have two hammers coming in, but

537
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Speaker 2: it'll be like two massive trade deadline acquisitions that enter

538
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Speaker 2: this team in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully yeah, hopefully. Yeah. Game two is bad Game two.

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Speaker 1: Game two was another one of those where you circle

541
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Speaker 1: then you go it's probably a loss. But then we

542
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Speaker 1: had Game three today and Game three was one that

543
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Speaker 1: was very winnable. This was one that you felt good

544
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Speaker 1: going into it. Stroman's look sharp ball season. He'd been great.

545
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Speaker 1: He's been a really really solid number two. We've been

546
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Speaker 1: hyping him up all podcast episodes like we love Stroman

547
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Speaker 1: over here. Just it wasn't good and it got off

548
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Speaker 1: to a decent start. McNeil back in the lineup, got

549
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Speaker 1: a hit, but also then left the game.

550
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like his entire team was deflated once

551
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 2: this third ning rolled around and McNeil had both left

552
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: with hamstring injuries.

553
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Speaker 1: Which is not good, especially because Confordo went into the

554
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Speaker 1: dugout and spiked his helmet, which yep, how many times

555
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Speaker 1: have you seen Michael Confordo show any sort of emotion.

556
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Speaker 1: Literally never the man is a wall of nothingness. But

557
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: he got he was pissed, and usually when a player

558
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Speaker 1: does that, they know their body well. That usually means

559
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Speaker 1: not just a quick ten day. I els didn't probably

560
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Speaker 1: gonna be something somewhat serious we had, I guess. I

561
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Speaker 1: don't think we have any info on that yet, right.

562
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Speaker 2: That was the same reaction from Ketel Marte when he

563
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Speaker 2: has Think tour. He was pounding on the ground. You

564
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Speaker 2: hate seeing a player pound on the ground. The only

565
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Speaker 2: player who I don't hate seeing that from is Ronald

566
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Speaker 2: Acuna Junior because he does that every single time he

567
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Speaker 2: stuffs his toe.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was.

570
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Speaker 1: It was a super super down game, and it didn't

571
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Speaker 1: help that Stroman was off for sure. He did not

572
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Speaker 1: give us a chance to win to that.

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Speaker 2: Something was either something was wrong with Marcus Stroman or

574
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Speaker 2: he was just having one of those days. Either ways,

575
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Speaker 2: the product wasn't very good. So he know the Rays

576
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Speaker 2: know him well from pitching the American Lease most of

577
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Speaker 2: his career. His numbers against him are pretty bad. Overall,

578
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Speaker 2: they have eighty eight hits and eighty and two thirds

579
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Speaker 2: career innings off him. He has a sixty seven to

580
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Speaker 2: twenty eight strikeout to walk ratio, which is well below

581
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Speaker 2: his career average, and altogether that he has a four

582
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Speaker 2: point three to five ERA and one point four to

583
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Speaker 2: three whip against Tampa. Those are pretty bad numbers. You

584
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Speaker 2: can't expect to win many games pitching like that.

585
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Speaker 1: No, it's hard and like especially when the Mets lose

586
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Speaker 1: Conford to at McNeil in the game, so the offense

587
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: is even weaker than it's already been because we still

588
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Speaker 1: have polar vr Parrazza, all these guys in there, it's

589
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: gonna be tough to score runs, especially against the Rays,

590
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Speaker 1: who have one of the best pitching staffs in the league,

591
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Speaker 1: starting bullpen. They're going to play the matchups. They The

592
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Speaker 1: reason the Rays do so well is because of this pitching.

593
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Speaker 1: It all starts there from them, and it's because they

594
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Speaker 1: make you uncomfortable every single at bat of the game.

595
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Speaker 1: They pitch you perfectly. They have the scouting report, and

596
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Speaker 1: with a depleted Mets lineup, it makes it even harder.

597
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Speaker 2: It was crazy that in a full run game, the

598
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: Rays were able to bring Diego Castillo in to face

599
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Speaker 2: a bomb and the order in the sixth inning.

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Speaker 1: Nuts cast sick. He's so good and he faced the

601
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Speaker 1: bottom of the order in the sixth inning, if four

602
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Speaker 1: run game at the time.

603
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then if I could just jump back to Stroman,

604
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Speaker 2: give a little pitch break, let's hear.

605
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Speaker 1: The show and breakdown, because he didn't look good and

606
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Speaker 1: there has to be a reason why.

607
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Speaker 2: No. Well, the biggest thing that happened to Marcus Stroman

608
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Speaker 2: today was his sinker was eviscerated. The two hardest hit

609
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Speaker 2: balls of the whole game, the Many Margo home run

610
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Speaker 2: in a Gmail and choice single. We're both off the sinker,

611
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Speaker 2: and the issue with the pitch was that he just

612
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Speaker 2: wasn't really locating it well at all. It was a

613
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Speaker 2: lot of middle middle. Both of those hard hit balls

614
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Speaker 2: were middle middle. When you're throwing a sinker, not at

615
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Speaker 2: the lead velocity, you have to be able to put

616
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Speaker 2: it where you want to put it, and he didn't.

617
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Speaker 2: I put a visual on Twitter a couple hours ago,

618
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Speaker 2: right after the game. It's a Stroman's hex spin from

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Speaker 2: the game. And if people who don't know, the hex

620
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Speaker 2: spin is a stack cast day the visualization tool where

621
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Speaker 2: it puts hexagons in the strike zone and the hexagon

622
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Speaker 2: has shape and like gener from blue to red and

623
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Speaker 2: size big to small about how often pitches being thrown there,

624
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Speaker 2: and his biggest hexagon the entire game, dark Red, was

625
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: literally down the middle.

626
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Speaker 1: Can can't be a good performance when you're thrown down

627
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Speaker 1: the middle, especially when you're not Jacob Deground.

628
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Speaker 2: No, you can't win like that. But the other thing

629
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Speaker 2: that Troman struggled with today, much to my chagrin, was

630
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Speaker 2: the slytherer just wasn't it didn't have it today. The

631
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Speaker 2: next two hardest hit balls off him besides the g

632
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Speaker 2: Man the Margo where there was another g Man single

633
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Speaker 2: and then another Margo line out, those were both off

634
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Speaker 2: the slider. The one thing we can put in our

635
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Speaker 2: pocket about those is both those were at the good pitches.

636
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: They were on the outher edge of the plate, so

637
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Speaker 2: in low and inside to the left ag Man and

638
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: just high end outside on the black to Margo. And

639
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: they both got around on it, which so you just

640
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: got to tip your cap similar to the Castro pitch

641
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: against the damis the one thing that did scare me

642
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: about Stroman today was that he only got one whiff

643
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Speaker 2: on that slider.

644
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's bad, that's brutal, that's shocking.

645
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: This is the pitch that has been around thirty percent

646
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Speaker 2: with for him the entire season, and digging in a

647
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Speaker 2: little bit deeper. All of Stroman's pitches were down in

648
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Speaker 2: miles an hour today about one two ticks across the board,

649
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Speaker 2: which we've seen that from some of the Mets pitchers

650
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: this weekend. So maybe that was just a usage thing,

651
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: or maybe the guns in Tampa are not perfectly calibrated,

652
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: but that's troubling. And on top of that, Stroman's slyther

653
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: had much less horizontal movement today than hiscerely average, moving

654
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: two inches less to be exact. So this is something

655
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's a cause for concern, but

656
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: something to monitor that if Marcus Stroman comes out next

657
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: week again his slider's not sliding, I will will be concerned.

658
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 2: And it's not not a very good thing.

659
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: No, And I think it's interesting that you talk about

660
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: like the slider to g Man, because I think that

661
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: was one thing we've talked about specifically you is that

662
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: Strowman has not been thrown the slider to the lefties

663
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: very much, and he did throw into g Man, and

664
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: that would make sense that the horizontal movement's down that

665
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: his slider was getting hit hard. Even if they were

666
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: good pitches, if it's not moving that much, all it

667
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: is timing really at that point.

668
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: And basically those two pitches that were hit by g

669
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: Man and Margo also, I just want to I love

670
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: g Manchoy. He's one of my fair players.

671
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: He's hard not to thiss or hard not to like.

672
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: He's great, and he's got the little he's got the

673
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: little shimmy, the little dance.

674
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: He guys like short little arms. He's dope. But those

675
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: two pitches that those guys hit, if he was getting

676
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: the two inches of movement more that he was averaging

677
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: all season, those pitches are a little bit out of

678
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: the reach, and those are probably are whiffs and we're

679
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: talking about a much different game. They just simply were not. No.

680
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: Fuck Manuel Margo. I hate him. I hate him with

681
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: a passion. Cool thing that happened today, Pat Mezka got

682
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: his first major league hit. Yeah, and he got a

683
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: home run yeah off, which is crazy because he got

684
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: a home run. This guy continues to baffle every single

685
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: person in the existence of the world.

686
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: Shock.

687
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: His swing is like that of someone who's right handed

688
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: trying to swing lefty it's pretty ugly. Sorry, Pat, It's

689
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: just that it is what it is. But you got

690
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: a home run off Diego Castillo. He's got some of

691
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: the filthiest stuff in baseball.

692
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't it wasn't a cheapo hundred two

693
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: miles an hour off the bad like you got it out.

694
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: He hit it hard. He hit it hard, and it

695
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: was just weird that he was our first option off

696
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: the bench, But it's because we didn't have any other options.

697
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: It was infuriating this series to basically play the entire

698
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: thing with a short bench. The Mets have made such

699
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: a habit this season out of you having an incomplete

700
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: roster of the major league team, and it's annoying as

701
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: all hell. But I also don't know how they fixed

702
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: it like today, losing Konfordo and McNeil.

703
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, today was just bad luck. But the entire series,

704
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil was on the roster, and it was pretty

705
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: apparent starting from Friday night that the guy couldn't really move.

706
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean even before the injury happened. Today. I mentioned you,

707
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: I said, he's probably hitting the il after the game,

708
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: no matter what I think.

709
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: I mentioned that to you.

710
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe that's what it was. But because he clearly

711
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: can't play the field for whatever it seems like, so

712
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna be useless for these next ten games because

713
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: we're not playing American League teams, you gotta put him

714
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: on the IL.

715
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the question becomes, why isn't he on the AL Anyway?

716
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: I get that you want Jeff McNeil's bat in the

717
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: line up, especially on a Friday night against Glass Now

718
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: will get a lefty in there that you trust. Yeah,

719
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 2: but the guy he's an incomplete baseball player right now.

720
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: He's not like Kirk Gibson where he's coming up in

721
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: the ninth inning of the World Series. This isn't like

722
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: a must win game here. We need our guys to

723
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: be healthy for the long run more than anything else.

724
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: And especially against the Rays team, you really do need

725
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: all twenty five you need or twenty six. Now, I

726
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: guess it is technical. You need every single player to

727
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: beat that team because they make you play the best

728
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: possible baseball in order to win. Mets didn't do that

729
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: from Game one to Game three, and there's.

730
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: No greater symptom of an incomplete roster. I can't believe

731
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: it's taken us as long to mention it. Then James

732
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: McCann being the designated Hither in a game.

733
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was can't happen. Not the way he's hitting

734
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: this year. No way.

735
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: We're officially on fly ball watch for James McCann. He

736
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: has a single digit number of fly balls since his

737
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: only home run of the season, that came on April fourteenth.

738
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Worry on nine nine, we are more than a month.

739
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: I don't think hit one today because that number is

740
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: going into today's.

741
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, our focus was mostly on the next game.

742
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: Once we saw this game get broken open, we were like,

743
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: all right, let's go next fourth seed. Hell yeah, a

744
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: little inside info into the personal lives of Mark and

745
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: James here. But he's just he continues to look, how.

746
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: Can there be no one else in the major league

747
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: roster that can be a better Hither against the left

748
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: handed pitcher than James McCann. There's just no, there's no

749
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: that's just poor roster construction.

750
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: Where's Wilmer Flora is at Let's go get wilma Oh

751
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: we get into the list for later in the show. Yeah,

752
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: we could, definitely. I would take Wilmer back. No, I

753
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't Honestly, he doesn't have a spot. But I love

754
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: Wilmer Diaz came in non safe situation, doesn't he doesn't

755
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: pitch well on them. I think that's just simple. It's

756
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: not he just I don't know.

757
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: Cold closing, as we've spoken about this podcast, I've talked

758
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: about at length, it's just such an emotional exercise. It's

759
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: hard to be jacked up to like do your thing

760
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: when you're down by five and then thinning.

761
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: And you know, when I've said he's at his best

762
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: jacked up, when he's jacked up World Baseball Classic Edwin Diaz,

763
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: you knew I was bringing it back to the hate

764
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: it every time you do. I love it. But that's it.

765
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: We've seen that a little bit from this year non

766
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: safe sit situation. I'm not really looking too much into

767
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: what he did today.

768
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: No, it just wasn't it happens now it's gonna make

769
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: a season numbers look much worse.

770
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: Yes, but whatever, again, have your shit game when it

771
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'm really okay with it.

772
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. But basically the only thing to pull from this

773
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: game and now to get into like more of what

774
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: we're going to long form discuss here, is that this

775
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: team needs to shine in the arm badly.

776
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

777
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: Our roster, our roster of hithers, which we did not

778
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: expect to be pressed this hard this early, is in deep,

779
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: deep need of some help.

780
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: Really badly. We were scouring, scouring through the minor leagues

781
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who can come in because it

782
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: looks like McNeil sitting the IL, Canfordo sitting in the

783
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: IL JD Davis is doing rehab. Nothing really on Nimo.

784
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: He's missed his games.

785
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: Nimmo was pulled off his rehab assignment because he continued

786
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: to have pain. So he's down until further. No, there

787
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: nothing on nothing about the guy.

788
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: The last thing I heard was that he could field,

789
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: but he couldn't pick up a bat and swing. That's good.

790
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: That's not good. So we are without four or five

791
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: guys that are legitimate cogs in this team. And yeah,

792
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: so six now for a legitimate period of time. Yeah,

793
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: so we are trying to figure out who can come up.

794
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: The names that we have in Triple A is not great.

795
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: Drew Jackson, David Thompson, will Fredo Tavar, Brandon Drury, but

796
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: none of those really scream anything that should be like

797
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: more than hopefully bench pieces to fill in, but we

798
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: need starters right now.

799
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: This is still a symptom of the broth even wagged

800
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: in Mets, where our triple A in fields and our

801
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: triple A bats in general are a complete shit show.

802
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been years like this that.

803
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: We really besides the prospects that have called up and

804
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: actually succeeded, but really has been a few years since

805
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: we had any of the big names come up. Don

806
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: and Pete really striking me as the two last ones. Yeah,

807
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: we are in a pretty big cavern of hitter development

808
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: right now in the Mets. We have a lot of

809
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: very exciting bats in the lower miners.

810
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: Yes, we have some great young players.

811
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's there's a real lack of depth in

812
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: the upper mines of this team, and right now it's

813
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: beginning to show.

814
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is like funny because truly it has taken

815
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: an insane amount of injuries for this depth to be

816
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: like exposed. Because, like we said, we loved that we

817
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: were starting to build an organization. Perrazza, vr Polar, all

818
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: these guys are great backups. But now we're starting to

819
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: lose even more players and it's getting shown we don't

820
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: have the depth, like the Dodgers. Still we're getting close,

821
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: We're getting there, but the Triple A team has nothing.

822
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be Khalil Lee's probably gonna get called

823
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: up here for Conforido or Malex Smith, which at that

824
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: point I'd rather just see.

825
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: Khalil Lee definitely, and probably Drury as well, because the

826
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: guy who can play second and third and there's no

827
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: one else who could do it.

828
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 1: But we still have what two other guys that need

829
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: to be filled in for even in that case.

830
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: Like even so, we still need bench bas We still

831
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: play in the National League without designated hither. These problems

832
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: were masks these last couple of games because it's designated hither. Yeah,

833
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: we're gonna bean for rule awakening our next series against

834
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: the Braves.

835
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: If that is not the case, it's it's interesting. The

836
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: depth right now is not there, which leads us to

837
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: our next little segment here, because we got to talk

838
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: about who's available. We gotta start looking elsewhere. Especially we

839
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: don't really have the information on what Conflorida or McNeil's

840
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: injuries are. We don't know how long some of these

841
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be out. We're in the scenario of

842
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: we might need to go out and find a bat.

843
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: The free agent market's not very strong, but on the

844
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: trade market, there are some pieces that would probably require

845
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: almost nothing being traded for mid level prospects that we

846
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: could get. James came up with a list of five.

847
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: Chris Brian, of course, would be the number one guy

848
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: we want, but we're trying to be realistic here. I

849
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: don't think we're getting Chris Bryan right now. I don't

850
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: know if we ever will, but there are some guys

851
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: that are realistic options for the Mets right now before we.

852
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: Even get to the trade guys. I knew the free

853
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: agent in fielder market was barren today when I was

854
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: looking up with recently available players, and Daniel Descaso caught

855
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: my eye and I saw the Twins had picked him

856
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: up last week, and I went shit.

857
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: And you looked up Jed Jerko, who is slated to

858
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: be the coach of an MLB draft.

859
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: Team, Uh huh. And I was looking up who is

860
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: the other guy who was some Bogan forsythe who just

861
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: got picked up by the Brewers.

862
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: These are the names, and I Eduardo Nunez I said

863
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: about Edwardo Nuniaz. He's playing in China.

864
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: These are the names.

865
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Not good, not great. No.

866
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: So a couple possible trade candidates that pulled up. I

867
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: look at some bad teams who have a relative infield

868
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: depth and some my at least mildly exciting prospects coming

869
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: up the pipe. I think Freddy Galvis is a pretty

870
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: interesting trade option, a guy who i've four in the offseason.

871
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: He can play short at a high level. He could

872
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: play second, he could play third very well. He's not

873
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: a good hitter by any means.

874
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't walk. No, he's put the ball in play guy.

875
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, which, whatever, He's just another version of Praza. I

876
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: guess the Oriels. I'm sure we'll give him to you

877
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: for next to nothing. And they have a pretty exciting

878
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: bat either in Double A or Triple A Taran Vavra. Yeah,

879
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: decent guy. So I think they would probably like to

880
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: see what they have in him while they're in once

881
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: again a lost season. I think another pretty exciting option

882
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: is Nico Gudrum from the Detroit Tigers, who marked clearly

883
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: based on his facebal.

884
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: And I win, I wins, I just like again, I

885
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: know we're looking for depth. Yeah, and the listening to

886
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: the other guys in this list, them might be the

887
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: most exciting. Goodroom's value, as you told me earlier when

888
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: we were prepping for this, is that he plays multiple positions.

889
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: He can play everywhere.

890
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: He basically plays seven positions. He can't pitch it, he

891
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: can't catch, but he has played everywhere else in the

892
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: last three seasons for the Tigers not super well. He's

893
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: actually in the midst of a pretty nice hot streak

894
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: right now where he's found some power. He still has

895
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: some speed. He's not striking out the astronomical levels he

896
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: once has. But I think the Tigers air team but

897
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 2: also needs to They also suck again. They're nowhere close

898
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: to pulling themselves out of the doll drums they've been

899
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: in since Dave Dombroski blew that team up and didn't

900
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: win a World Series. But they have Willie Castro, who

901
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: has been on the roster, who has been really struggling

902
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: this year, not in everyday role. They need to see

903
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: what they have in him, and I think getting where

904
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: the good Rooms to go away to find out, and

905
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: again we would be able to give next to nothing

906
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: to get him. He's running out of his team control

907
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: I think Charlie Colberson an old friend, is another decent

908
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: option because he get another guy who could play everywhere

909
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 2: in the Diamond. He knows how to take a walk,

910
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: he knows how to pinch hit, which we've seen as

911
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: Mets fans a few times. He's killed us like that.

912
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: He's on the Rangers now, Whi's kind of weird not

913
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: seeing him stand next to his twin Dansby Sponson.

914
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: I know, it's so weird. He literally like you, you're

915
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: far enough away from them, you go, that's the same guy.

916
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Definitely, And he's in like a quasi starting role for

917
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: the Rangers right now, filling in for brock Holt, which

918
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: is hysterical that Charlie Colberston's filling in.

919
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: For Brock And I guess you could probably also throw

920
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: brock Holt down, who has another guy.

921
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: You could probably get either of those guys basically for

922
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: free that Spider Man met with each other where they

923
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: play every single position.

924
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, just not yet, or it's it's the Pam with

925
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Creed and it's the same picture, but he's.

926
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to say, an exciting option for the

927
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: possible option we could get for free, really fun options

928
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: that really came to me watching the series is Joey

929
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Wendell because the Rays I'm sure are dying to trade

930
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 2: Joey Rhant Wendell with Wander Franco as mentioned before, popping

931
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: up the minor leagues and vdel Breuhuant also smacking the

932
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: shit out of the ball.

933
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: And it seems like they like Padlow.

934
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I kind of like Paddo's decent prospect.

935
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: They have another guy in Triple A, Taylor Walls, who

936
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: they love, who's a glove.

937
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: He's he's Joey Wendell.

938
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, big love guy. And they also have Xavier Edwards

939
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 2: in Double A who's sick, also sick with the glove

940
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: and really fast and very good athletic. He's kind of

941
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: like d Brewhan two years ago. But the Rays have

942
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: in field depth out the wazoo and they would take

943
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: probably anything for Joey Wendall. Anything in the Rays is

944
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: probably a seventeen year old throws one hundred who's going

945
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: to be a cy young candidate in five years.

946
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

947
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: Which whoever we traded them for? Uh was? The guy's

948
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: name was the long relievers guy we got for two

949
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: years ago?

950
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: Oh Erasmo Ramirez.

951
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: The guy from the Blue Jays too.

952
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, Wilmer fon Wilma.

953
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: We just everyone on Twitter be on watch for whoever

954
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: the seventeen year old We gave up Wilmar font because

955
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: three years time will be a top hunch of prospect

956
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: and it'll be lol Mets all over again.

957
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: Of course, Yes, but Joey.

958
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: Wendell is a guy who's going to be on the block.

959
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: He's certainly already firmly on the block. He's not even

960
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: on the block since the Rays acquire.

961
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Him, and it's not by any reason because he isn't

962
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: good or they they simply don't need him, and the

963
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: Rays always are trying to maximize their value players. We

964
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: saw him Trick Blakesnew who is a cy young caliber guy.

965
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: Joey Wendall is for sure what's the word expendable? Yeah,

966
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: and he's above replacement.

967
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: Level, so it'll be it'll be a win win situation.

968
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: Another guy who's like also mildly exciting, kind of like

969
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: when the lights Eric Gonzales from the Pirates. He can't

970
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: really hit these things a little bit. This year he

971
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: plays a couple positions in the infield decent enough. He

972
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: plays shortstop not well, but he plays it. But these

973
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: are the kinds of guys that the Mets have to

974
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: be looking at right now because our infield depth is

975
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: sparse and if Jeff McNeil winds up on the shelf

976
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: for a while and Giorme isn't healthy for the foreseeable future,

977
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: we need a warm body bad.

978
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the options are not great. I you know,

979
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: will Fredo Tovar, I think was a Mets prospect, a

980
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: top prospect in the Mets system like ten years ago,

981
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: and he's somehow still on this team. I don't know how,

982
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: but he's not good. I don't know anything about him.

983
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: That is a plus.

984
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: Drew Jackson and David Thompson are actually creative players.

985
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fake. That's like when you're twenty five

986
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: years into a franchise and they just give you names

987
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: so that it can actually be said, like audibly now

988
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: batting David Thompson, like you hear the pause, because it's

989
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: not it's not a real name.

990
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: The show just uses those guys to fill out rosters,

991
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: and I don't have the full rights to fill out

992
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: the minor league roster and.

993
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Who those guys and the Mets happened to have them.

994
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mets have both of them. Two copies are

995
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: the same. Guy, it's bad. I want to bring out

996
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: our bad Mets take of the week today.

997
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: It's bad.

998
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: Mike Kuma gave a shockingly bad take. And that's impressive

999
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 2: for Mike Kuma because he's an artistan of bad takes

1000
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: and he has been for quite a long time. Mike

1001
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: Puma's thought that Sandy Alderson should call up and I

1002
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: quote his old friend Jay Bruce.

1003
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 1: Jay Bruce, who retired from the Yankees this season playing

1004
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: every single day because he said, I am just I'm.

1005
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: Bad You're retired. On a Sunday morning, he played, he

1006
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: woke up and.

1007
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, you can't do it anymore. It's time to

1008
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: hang it up, like I suck.

1009
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: Also, from a depth standpoint, Jay Brews doesn't really help

1010
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: the issues the team had. Yeah, we need another first basement?

1011
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: Why the fuck do the mesni another for the Mets?

1012
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: First is base is the only place where the Mets

1013
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: are still strong at right now, Yes, the only place.

1014
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: Mike Puma saw Michael Kunfordo and Jeff McNeil get hurt

1015
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: a second baseman and a right fielder, and he said,

1016
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: you need to get Jay Bruce. That is brain dead.

1017
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: Mike Puma, like you, says the King of Bad takes

1018
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: the guy as an idiot. I will saying we have

1019
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: some other kings. I said an artistan Okay, yeah, artist

1020
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: said he's he's an idiot, though he's part of the

1021
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: whole Mets beat that loves to be negative and try

1022
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: to find anything wrong with this team at any moment.

1023
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: So I just don't like the guy to begin with.

1024
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: You should stop being able to write about baseball. Take

1025
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: his card away? Does this guy does he have voting

1026
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: rights for any sort of award? That's all despicable. That

1027
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: is disgusting that he gets to share his opinion with

1028
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: people and people care.

1029
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: In Mike Puma's defense, his knowledge on the game in

1030
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: general lags back a couple of years, so he probably

1031
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: still thinks Jay Bruce is a decent hitting, corner outfielder.

1032
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: Do you think he knows that Jay Bruce retired this year? Okay, yes,

1033
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: because the Yankees are in Mike Puma's periphery, that's true. Yeah,

1034
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: But did he I know that he retired because he's

1035
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: playing so poorly? Or did he think that Jay Bruce

1036
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: was like maybe got a little like nicked and bruised

1037
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: and was like, a.

1038
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: Body, didn't you hear this? This this league's about relationships.

1039
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: Jay Bruce and said also have a nice relationship. They're friends.

1040
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: That's that's what makes it so. It makes a winning

1041
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: team is signing old players that are washed and can't

1042
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: be used by a team that needed someone. So Mike

1043
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: Puma just Mets Twitter in general, this weekend has been

1044
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: pretty horrible. It's very much you know, the SpongeBob meme

1045
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: of where the papers are on fire. It's like, guys,

1046
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: the Razor won a good team. Yeah, very very good team.

1047
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: They're three games above five hundred. Defend winner, defending Pennett winner.

1048
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: This is what they do. They live and die with

1049
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: close games, and just like the Mets kind of. They

1050
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: really haven't even been playing particularly good baseball yet this year.

1051
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: They're good.

1052
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: But the irony that kills me about this series is

1053
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: the most winnable game was against their ace. Yeah, this

1054
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: series looks and feel so much better if we were

1055
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: able to steal just one game, yep, But just the

1056
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: fact getting swept.

1057
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: It kills Yeah. I think like it was a little

1058
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: bit of a gut punch too, seeing Stroman pitch so poorly,

1059
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: because I think for the fans that the one game,

1060
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: like you said, on paper, we probably circle and go.

1061
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: We got this one. So to lose the games in

1062
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: the way that we did and then have Struman come

1063
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: out and just kind of be not very good today,

1064
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: that hurt. That hurt a little bit. But Mets fans,

1065
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: we need to stay positive because we this is this

1066
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: team is still good. We have our issues, but the

1067
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: National League East is not particularly good. I think the

1068
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: Phillies got swept by the J's. I think the last

1069
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: game Chase Anderson was pitching, so the Jay's better of

1070
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: one at him. You know, he's on the list of

1071
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: pictures I'd like to be able to face. I want

1072
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: to throw this in there. Joey Lukesey's also on that

1073
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: list as well. Off pictures I think I could get

1074
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: a hit off of. But yeah, definitely would try turf

1075
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, ninety tough. This team's fine, We're okay fine,

1076
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: And do I feel as good as I did last

1077
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: week after you know, being the Diamondbacks and Orioles. No,

1078
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: And of course that's gonna happen. The Races are a

1079
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: better team, you know, that it's super negative when KFC

1080
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: Barstool is standing on you know, on top of the

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00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: mountain saying, guys, it's it's okay. The season's not over.

1082
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: This team is good, Like, let's all take a deep breath.

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00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: And he's one of the most negative Mets fans out there.

1084
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: So there's nothing to take positive necessarily out of the series.

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00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: But I also don't think that we should be you know,

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00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: this guy is falling No.

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00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: This guy's not falling down. We have so many reinforcements

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00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: waiting in the wings. We just need to bridge this

1089
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: gap until we get back to de Gram, Cindergaard, Lugo, Carrasco.

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Speaker 2: We just need to get there now.

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Speaker 1: Confor though and McNeil, the month of May has been

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00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: the kryptonite for the Mets the last few years, especially

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00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: the Callaway era. May was kind of when this team

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00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: started to fall off. We've already got more wins I

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00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: feel like this month than we did in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: in the month of May. So this team's better.

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00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 2: This team's good.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna figure it out. Mckenn needs to hit a

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00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: little bit more. The door's gonna hit a little bit more,

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00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: for sure. That's a guarantee. McCann, I don't know yet.

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00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: It's gonna be okay. We're gonna be good. Get through

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Speaker 1: this month, play five hundred baseball a little above five hundred,

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00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: and things are going to be okay. We gotta take

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00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: that preview with the Braves, SERI, Yeah, let's take it

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Speaker 1: down to the review of the Braves. I kind of

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00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: forgot that we do that. I was getting ready to

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00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: outro it here and we got to talk about the

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00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: Brave series, which.

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Speaker 2: Is sticking down south. It's a very humid week in Metsland,

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00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: at Tampa, at Atlanta at Miami, these next between the

1111
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: last series and the next two. But this is an

1112
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 2: important series with the Atlanta Braves right now walking into

1113
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: this place wounded. Jacob de Gram's not gonna be pitching

1114
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: the series again to save us, s Rome is not

1115
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: gonna be pitching again in the series. We need to

1116
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: find some victories against a struggling Braves team and assert

1117
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: our dominance.

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00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: Dude. Also, fuck MLB, We're playing the Braves for the

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00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: first time in May when we're at our absolute worst.

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Speaker 2: Ye, right, ridiculous, but it's these three times already.

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00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, nuts, But who do we got on the mound,

1122
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: what's what's the matchupsmar is gonna.

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00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: Be Taiwan in a night game, which I don't know

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00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: how that's gonna go. I don't know.

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00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: He's our day man.

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00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: And Tuesday, we think we actually might get a debut

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00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: from mister Thomas Sapuki, who I referenced either last episode

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00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: two episodes ago saying that he was going to pitch

1129
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: before June. So nailed another one good take by James.

1130
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: But if not Supooki, we're gonna get Yamo though, who

1131
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: for whatever reason pitched I believe Friday or Thursday. Yeah,

1132
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: so three days rest for I don't know how we're

1133
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: not incahoots with Syracuse making sure that Yamamoto is lined

1134
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: up on the days that we're gonna need starters in

1135
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: New York. It's very dumb. So we could either be

1136
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 2: getting a Yamo the one three days rast, which would

1137
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: be a heavy dose of gazalmon afterwards, or Zubuki, who

1138
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: probably also be only going four or five innings with

1139
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: a heavy dose of gesalmon.

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Speaker 1: I'd at least like to see Zapooki. He's the he's

1141
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: on the forty man right, So it's not even like

1142
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: we're kicking somebody off to give this guy a shot

1143
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: when the.

1144
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: Guy has a pretty decent scathering report. He's not top

1145
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: hundred prospect by any means, but he's gonna come in

1146
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: as a seems like a ready made pitcher, do you uh?

1147
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: And then what what's game three?

1148
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Game three is mister Peterson?

1149
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, Peterson's back, which we luckily.

1150
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 2: Have an off day Thursday, so we can recuperate hopefully

1151
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: with the four man rotation and get to Jacob de

1152
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: Gram again because we need that very badly, need him badly.

1153
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: For sure, he is the wheel that pushes the seam forward.

1154
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: Even though that we tend to lose games that he starts,

1155
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: it's not because of his doing, it's just the team

1156
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: kind of collapses.

1157
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: Jacob. The ground's like a warm blanket for this rotation,

1158
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: and we know he's there. It's very comfortable we have it.

1159
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: But just quickly to give a little scathering report on

1160
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: Zubuoki before he gets to it.

1161
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not blowing.

1162
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: Anyone away with a great fastball. It's a good fastball,

1163
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: it's not a great fastball sit in the mid nineties.

1164
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: His command is something that he struggled with in the

1165
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: past walks. I have an issue for this guy, even

1166
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: just this year in Triple a's or nine. I thinks

1167
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: he's walked. He's walked four guys. You'd love to see that.

1168
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: But whatever, the thing that he has is better is

1169
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: the curve ball. Thomas A Boogie drops a hammer. So

1170
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: that's what we're gonna need to get through a couples

1171
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: against the Braves. But I'm pretty I'm excited to watch

1172
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: Tomas Bookie.

1173
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: I like seen the abutse from the From the start

1174
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: of the season, I've said, if the Mets want to

1175
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: win the East, you gotta beat the Braves. Gotta beat

1176
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: the Braves, and until they do, I had the Braves

1177
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: as the best team in the division. I know that

1178
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: sounds a little crazy now seeing what we've seen, but

1179
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: Met's gotta beat the Braves in order to win this division.

1180
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: I stand by that this week is going to be

1181
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: a big test, just like this Ray series was a test.

1182
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: We kind of got, you know, flat on our faces here,

1183
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: we got pants a little bit. But the Braves are

1184
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: also not playing good baseball right now, so there is

1185
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: seriously no excuse. I mean there is. We're depleted, but

1186
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: also you gotta beat this Braves team. You want to

1187
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: be one of the best teams in this division, you

1188
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: have to beat them. You gotta get the job done.

1189
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: And we're catching the Braves. Two best pictures of two

1190
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: best healthy pitchers coming out here. Freed tomorrow against Taiwan

1191
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: is gonna really set the tone for the series. We

1192
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: got to hit Max Freed, guys to get to him,

1193
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: Charlie moooron on Tuesday, and then Drew Smiley, who we

1194
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 2: should eviscerate on Wednesday evening that that's all I really

1195
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: got here. We gotta win some games.

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00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: We gotta win some games. You had something that we've

1197
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: said that we've wanted to do for a while. We

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00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: got roasted or you got roasted, I guess. On the

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00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Apple ratings and reviews, which, by the way, if you

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00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: guys are listening on Apple, drop us a five star rating.

1201
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: If you're enjoying it, drop us a review. Really does

1202
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: help out the podcast. But definitely see you could leave,

1203
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: you could leave a funny one.

1204
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'll say it right now. I don't

1205
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: remember the kid's name, and we don't have maybe maybe

1206
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: an older man.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'm not going to assume anyone's ada gender here. Yeah,

1209
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: it was a mistake, but he said, I love this podcast,

1210
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: best mad podcast on the thing Mark. I think it's

1211
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: really funny how Mark speaks really well and James can't

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00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: pronounce his teas, which is which is astronomically true. I'm bad,

1213
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 2: I'm bad enunciating.

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00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: The teas are not your strong suit. But yeah, you know,

1215
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: you give us some reviews. We'll give some people some

1216
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: shout outs on here every once in a while.

1217
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: Because please roast me.

1218
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have been listening and you know, really

1219
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: enjoying it. So we want to show some love back.

1220
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: Another way we're gonna do that is we do I

1221
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: put out on Twitter. I'm messed up. Uh ask us

1222
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: a question for this episode, some really good ones. I

1223
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Speaker 1: think we're gonna limit it to one, and we're gonna

1224
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you our opinion on it because we

1225
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: like to hear what you guys think. So there was

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00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: a couple questions that were about Louis Rojas. He's kind

1227
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: of the hot topic here, so I'm not necessarily gonna

1228
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: read one in particular, But is Louis Rohass getting too

1229
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: much hate? Is he on the hot seat the whole

1230
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: Louis Rojas situation, at least in my eyes. I'm definitely

1231
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: critical of him. I get it. I'm definitely super tough.

1232
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's on the hot seat right now.

1233
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: I think it would be a little crazy with the

1234
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: team in first place, not even playing good baseball to

1235
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: say that he's on the hot seat. But I think

1236
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: you do have to keep an eye out for Louis Rojas.

1237
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: We saw him sleeping in the eighth inning in the

1238
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: David Peterson game. That's something he has done in the past.

1239
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: We need to be a little bit sharper out there.

1240
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: We need to be making those decisions better. But I

1241
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: think also even at the end of the game, you

1242
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: really saw him like coaching. That was like one of

1243
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: the first times I feel like I saw him actively coaching,

1244
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: and I liked it. It seemed like he was on

1245
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: top of the game scenes, like he was thinking things

1246
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: didn't go our way, but the dude was active. I

1247
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: think we see that Louis Rojas more and we're gonna

1248
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: start to see the Mets really taking to it. It

1249
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: could just be something we don't see either because the

1250
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 1: camera's just not on the coach as much nice even takes.

1251
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: I like that.

1252
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: Friday night was the first time all season I had

1253
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: been very upset with Romas. Yeah, the first time where

1254
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: I thought he did something that was markedly incorrect that

1255
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: cost the Mets games. He's made some questionable decisions with

1256
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 2: the bullpen this year, but we never really know where

1257
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: those decisions are coming from or if he's just taking

1258
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: cues from people above him. That leaving David Peers into

1259
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: face Kevin Padlove was the first time I was like, damn,

1260
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: that was really dumb. That really cost us. And then

1261
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: like even the Macanzie hing on Saturday, that's not great.

1262
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: I don't like that, but he didn't really have many

1263
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: other options.

1264
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: No, just and like when you're paying a guy like McCann,

1265
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: like forty million, and it's it's either McCann or Mezica. Really,

1266
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: that's what he kind of came down to. Okay, I

1267
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: get it, not my choice, but there's a path to it.

1268
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna be critical of Rojas. Everyone's gonna be critical

1269
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: of him. I don't think he's on the hot seat.

1270
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: I think that'd be unfair to the guy about what

1271
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: one hundred games into his managerial career, especially when he

1272
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: got thrown into the fire last year when he wasn't

1273
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: supposed to be the guy short spring training, everything going on.

1274
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 1: I do think that the players like him. I don't

1275
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: think he's a bad manager. I just don't necessarily think

1276
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: if he's a good one yet, he's got to prove

1277
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: something to He hasn't proved it yet, But he hasn't

1278
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: made me say someone else has got to be there,

1279
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: because I also don't know who that guy would be.

1280
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: How many people are very good at their jobs after

1281
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: their first one hundred hundred days of work.

1282
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: Not many. You would have fired a lot of managers

1283
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball now, Like even I've been critical

1284
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: of a guy like Don Mattingly because I just I

1285
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: didn't think. I don't think he's a particularly good manager.

1286
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: But look away to do with the Marlins last year.

1287
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: You give guys time, You give them a chance to

1288
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: really make their impact on a team. After this season,

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Speaker 1: let's pretend something goes wrong. Okay, fine, I get it,

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Speaker 1: but right now I think it would be way too

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Speaker 1: early to put him on the hot seat. And then

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Speaker 1: who else is coming in here? Nobody, nobody. I have

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Speaker 1: no clue so no. My answer bottom line, Luis Rojas,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's on in the hot seat. This

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Speaker 1: team's not in trouble. Like we said all podcasts long,

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Speaker 1: we're not in trouble. We're in a good spot, which

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Speaker 1: leads us perfectly to the outro here the end of

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Speaker 1: episode number fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Look at us.

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Speaker 1: We've made it fifteen episodes in here to a podcast

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Thank you, guys so much for the

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Speaker 1: amazing support. You know we're to listen to us Apple, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: Google Podcast. You can watch us on YouTube just search

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Speaker 1: meths the podcast. Twitter and Instagram messed up super easy.

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Speaker 1: You can follow James Jeter had no range, mejor raffneck Mark.

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Speaker 1: That's we're gonna wrap up episode number fifteen. Guys, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for listening watching whatever you do. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you and we'll see you next time for an episode

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Speaker 1: after the Brave series.

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Speaker 2: Bye, thanks for listening.