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Speaker 4: You guys, listen to a whole bunch of other golf

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Speaker 4: have two episodes per week from here on out. Sean

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Speaker 4: so stay on the lookout for that. Will obviously update

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Speaker 4: We'll obviously keep you in a loop on that. Shout

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Speaker 4: out to our guy Matthew Freedman, who has moved on

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Speaker 4: and will not be a part of the pod this season,

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Speaker 4: But that just means more of Sean and I arguing

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Speaker 4: about third string tight ends for you guys listening pleasure

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Speaker 4: each and every week. I'm Chris Raybon, Sean Corner, the

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Speaker 4: odds maker, my dude, my new neighbor, kind of what's

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, so welcome to La Glad to have you here.

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Speaker 5: How do you like it so far?

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Speaker 4: It's every day. It's the save exact weather. I'm not

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Speaker 4: used to that. And my life will end three hours

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Speaker 4: earlier every Sunday because you know we have we get

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Speaker 4: For NBA, you know, games over by nine, ten o'clock,

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Speaker 5: I mean I moved to New York for a year,

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Speaker 5: I'm not used to games starting at one pm, Like

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Speaker 5: comes to sport, So welcome, Thank you man.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, for all you guys out there, we're going

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Speaker 4: to get to AFC projections in this podcast. We're going

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Speaker 4: team by team and you know, we have some time

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Speaker 1: And give our prop.

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Speaker 4: We'll do a prop for each team, Sean will throwing out,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a lot of good stuff.

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Speaker 4: But before we get into it, Sean, just like, how

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Speaker 4: been betting on, how's it going good.

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Speaker 5: I've been hanging out. You know, I've been betting on

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Speaker 5: some weird stuff like college league and I always love WNBA.

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Speaker 5: I've been just crushing it. That's one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty Thursday Shows Sean.

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Speaker 5: So so first of all, what's the deal with the

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Speaker 4: So that's you know, I got the throwback the Oilers

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Speaker 4: Obviously will have it posted on the Action Network HQ

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna do a throwback every Thursday. We'll see how

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Speaker 4: I know you've been getting your hat collection up. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So yes, yes, I will have a hat for every

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Speaker 5: I'm with him this year. I love him. A little

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Speaker 1: The Bills make me throw your hands up and throw

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Speaker 5: I'm not projecting much regression for Josh Allen this year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the rushing touchdowns have been there. He's a

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Speaker 3: But I just don't see it.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because Moss is going in Fantasy Pro's half

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Speaker 4: exact same role as TJ. Yelden, which is like active

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to say. So I think it'll

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Speaker 4: The guy you want tow especially because he's he's going

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Speaker 4: All right, So we're gonna do, you know, and we

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Speaker 5: No, I think he does have that talent to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be a weak one.

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Speaker 5: I think it'll help that. You know, he doesn't have

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Speaker 5: Flores is pretty cold blooded. He comes from that Bill

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Speaker 5: Belichick coaching tree, where you know he has no qualms

439
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 5: to just bench a guy out of the blue. So

440
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 5: I think it could be a hot hand approach. I mean,

441
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 5: they have Salvin Achmed and Malcolm Brown now, so you know,

442
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 5: it's no guarantee that Gaskin's going to be the starting

443
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Speaker 5: back all season long. So I think I'm a little

444
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Speaker 5: bit cautious taking him at his adp in the you know,

445
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,080
Speaker 5: twenty five to thirty range. I think you know you

446
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,119
Speaker 5: were taking him high enough where he does. You know,

447
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,479
Speaker 5: he has to start ten plus games to hit at ADP.

448
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 5: So I'm shining away and you know, just I'm more

449
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 5: interested in maybe taking the backups at a cheaper price

450
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 5: because this I think this running game could be pretty

451
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 5: volatile week to week.

452
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,439
Speaker 4: I'm a little more into gask and I think he's

453
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Speaker 4: just because he's going at that back end. He's the

454
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Speaker 4: RB twenty four in terms of ADP. He's kind of

455
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Speaker 4: going at the back end of that RB two tier

456
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Speaker 4: or a high end, you know, flex high end RB three.

457
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Speaker 4: But I just look at you know, when he went

458
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 4: down last year, and you know, he missed four games,

459
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 4: and he came back. In that first game back, he

460
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 4: played seventy one percent of snaps and had twenty three touches.

461
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Speaker 1: He essentially retained his role.

462
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 4: And then you know, he misses a couple more games

463
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 4: on the COVID list and comes back and plays seventy

464
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Speaker 4: six percent of the snaps. So he was right on

465
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Speaker 4: his you know, normal season averages, and he played well

466
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Speaker 4: for the most part.

467
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Speaker 1: I think he's a real plus as a receiver for them.

468
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Speaker 4: Flores did say he's kind of their their spread back,

469
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Speaker 4: and I think they're gonna run a lift out of that,

470
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Speaker 4: especially you know, upgrading at receiver. So just looking at

471
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 4: their depth chart is hard to see who would who

472
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 4: would jump him? You know, Malcolm Brown was at it.

473
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 4: I think we kind of know what Brown is at

474
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 4: this point. He's a good veteran to have on a roster.

475
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 4: He's probably upgraded and a guy like Patrick Laird. But overall, yeah,

476
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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really think that achmed just given

477
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 4: the fact that Gaskin took that rollback so easily, it

478
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 4: is much of a threat either.

479
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 1: So I actually liked that they got Brown.

480
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 4: I think that makes it a little more comfortable than

481
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Speaker 4: if they had gotten someone better.

482
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Speaker 1: I guess you could say, so, I don't mind gasking.

483
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 5: I mean Ray Bond. That's the thing with the Frozen Pond.

484
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 5: He looks great on the service.

485
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Speaker 1: Right, so you could just think, yeah, yeah, No, I

486
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: just don't think he's a bad back, is what I'm saying.

487
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Speaker 4: I don't think he's he's like they're just actively looking

488
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 4: to upgrade, I guess, is what I'm saying. Like, you know,

489
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 4: it could happen.

490
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Speaker 1: He's at hes only what I think.

491
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Speaker 5: It was a good endorsement for him, that they didn't

492
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Speaker 5: attack running back until the seventh round, so I think,

493
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Speaker 5: you know, he survived the NFL Draft, but bran Flores,

494
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Speaker 5: he's going to be hard to try. Similar to Belichick

495
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 5: when it comes running backs.

496
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Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah, Belichick school. And then what what are you

497
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 4: what are you looking at for Wattle in terms of his.

498
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: Outlook for per year one?

499
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Speaker 5: I want to like him, but like I said, just

500
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Speaker 5: with Tua, you're you're kind of banking onto a having

501
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 5: a year two breakout. So I think he certainly makes

502
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 5: stacks if you're playing best ball stack Wattle. With Tua,

503
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 5: you're kind of banking on having that breakout. But I

504
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 5: think Wattle helps Tua more than the other way around.

505
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 5: I just don't know how the the snaps are gonna

506
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 5: be distributed with Fuller once he's back Wattle, you have

507
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 5: Devonte Parker, I mean, Preston Williams still might factor in,

508
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 5: and then Mike Joseki. I just don't know if there's

509
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 5: enough yards to go around to be really content with Waddle.

510
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 5: You know, he has that big playability, but he's gonna

511
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 5: need volume to be a consistent player. So I think

512
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 5: he's a guy where you know, if will fur Fuller

513
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 5: eventually misses his time, that's when he'll probably hit his

514
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 5: you know, wide receiver tier wide receive receiver three potential.

515
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 5: But it's hard to really like him at his current ADP.

516
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: As much as you know, I think he has the

517
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 5: talent to be a wide receiver too, it's just really

518
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 5: hard to project this team right now.

519
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you mentioned Gasiki, So I'll just ask one

520
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 4: more question before we get into our Dolphins prop. Out

521
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 4: of you have Fuller at wide receiver thirty five, Parker

522
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 4: wide receiver forty two, wad to wide receiver forty five

523
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 4: in ADP, and then you have Mike Gasiki at tight

524
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Speaker 4: end number ten in ADP.

525
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Who's the best value out of those four?

526
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 5: If you get Devonte Parker a bit later. He tends

527
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: to be the wide receiver that people draft the latest

528
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 5: and drafts. I think just taking the cheapest guy, honestly

529
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 5: out of that trio is the way to go because

530
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 5: it's going to be so even. And you know, he

531
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 5: already has some chemistry with Parker, so I think that

532
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 5: bodes well for Parker heading into twenty twenty one. But

533
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 5: like I said, I think this is a tricky wide

534
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 5: receiver trio to project right now, So I'd be more

535
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 5: interested in just you know, stacking them in Best Ball.

536
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 5: You don't know which weeks these guys are gonna go off,

537
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 5: so Bestball kind of helps, you know, a lazy person

538
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 5: decide when to start guys. So I think Parker right now,

539
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 5: I'd lean to go Layer in the drafts.

540
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 4: We got to get some side action because I think

541
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Speaker 4: I think I'd have Parker the worst value out of

542
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 4: those guys because I'm looking at what happened last year

543
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 4: and to it was disappointing obviously, and what did Miami

544
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 4: do in an offseason?

545
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: They go out and essentially.

546
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 4: Upgrade their top two spots from like you know, Parker

547
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: and Gasicki to you know, Fuller and you know Wattle.

548
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 4: Potentially even this year could be could you surp those guys?

549
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: So I actually think Fuller's still the best because I

550
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: think he's the best player of that of that bunch,

551
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 4: and you know, before he got that suspension, I mean

552
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 4: he was one of the best receivers in the NFL.

553
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: I think he still has that potential. So I think

554
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: it's Fullard for me.

555
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 4: With Waddle second, just because I don't think they were

556
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: happy with their with their receiving core last year, So

557
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 4: that's gonna be a interesting one.

558
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 5: I'm projecting. I'm projecting Fuller and wall higher. I'm just

559
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 5: saying there's some drafts where Parker falls another wide receiver

560
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 5: fifty five range.

561
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Yeahalue, I agree with you.

562
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 5: Fuller and Wade will definitely just raw projection way higher

563
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 5: than Parker. All right, so what's our Dolphins prop? So

564
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 5: my Dolphins prop is two touchdown passes, and considering I'm

565
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 5: higher on him than you, you might go under here.

566
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 5: But I have the lion set at twenty three and

567
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 5: a half.

568
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: That's actually pretty close to what I have it. I

569
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: believe I have it, Yeah, actually have it a little above.

570
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: I have it at twenty four point something I do

571
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 4: haven't projected for to start sixteen games. So that's you know,

572
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 4: there's some uncertainty there. I think, you know, there's a

573
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 4: floor there. But if he plays his median to his median,

574
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 4: I think he throws about one and a half touchdowns

575
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 4: per game. Considering who's on the team. Now, you know,

576
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 4: Fuller's a guy that you know he can catch touchdowns.

577
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 4: We've seen that in the past. Waddle and you know,

578
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: Parker's obviously and gets Sticky are still good players and

579
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 4: Gaskin's a good receiver out of the backfield. So yeah,

580
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 4: I think he has a upside. And yeah, I'm right,

581
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 4: I'm right with you there, I'm right around that twenty

582
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 4: four mark. All right, let's go to the the New

583
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: England Patriots Mac Jones drafted. How does he change out

584
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: look for the offense? Does he change it this year?

585
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

586
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 5: So that's I mean, that's the question for you, right

587
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 5: is how are we handling this KB situation? So right now,

588
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 5: I'm projecting the Pats to average two hundred nineteen passing

589
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 5: yards per game when Cam's QB and about two forty

590
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 5: two in Mac Jones's quarterback. So I'm projecting Cam aron

591
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 5: nine games started and Mac around seven games. So I'm

592
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 5: projecting this offense caverage roughly two hundred and thirty yards

593
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 5: passing a game. So that's going to change as I

594
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 5: you know, move Cam and Max projected game started up

595
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: or down. That's sort of like my baseline for this

596
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 5: passing offense. So in summary, Mac Jones I think is

597
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 5: going to help out you know, the receivers and tight

598
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: ends significantly, and I think even running backs because Cam Newton,

599
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 5: you know, he hogs up so much of that rushing

600
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 5: touchdown up side around the goal line. So technically mac

601
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: Jones is better for fantasy for all players. So this

602
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 5: is you know, this is going to be a camp battle.

603
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 5: I'm maybe watching closely, and it's can to impact all

604
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 5: my Patriot projections as I tweak these projected games played.

605
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so tough.

606
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 4: Right now, I have them about equal, but I'm sure

607
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: we'll talk about that a little more in a second.

608
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: I just want to talk about all of the skill

609
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 4: position players that you have kind of incoming. You have

610
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: Nelson Aguila, or you have Kendrick Bourne, you have Hunter Henry,

611
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 4: you have john new Smith. What did you think of

612
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 4: the kind of reshuffling the Patriots data. Who do you

613
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: think will emerge if anyone is like a consistent week

614
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 4: to week guy at receiver for New England.

615
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, I hated their offseason moves. I'm glad

616
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 5: that they upgraded at nearly every position they had to

617
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 5: after last season. So I think whoever starts quarterback is

618
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 5: going to benefit from these moves. But you know, having

619
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 5: Hunter Henry and Johnny Smith on the same team, it

620
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 5: just kills both of their projections. For me, I'm off

621
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 5: both and then especially a wide receiver you know, like

622
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 5: Jacoby Myers. I want to love him heading into the season,

623
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 5: but you know, if Nelson Aguilar there, Kendrick Bourn, it's

624
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 5: hard to you know, sort this out, especially if Cam

625
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 5: Newton ends up starting ten plus games. You know, I'm

626
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 5: not gonna want many of these guys. So I've been

627
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 5: focusing more on the running game as of now until

628
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 5: we get a bit more clarity. But it's just hard

629
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 5: to like anybody because when you do projections, you kind

630
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 5: of see how targets are distributed and where upside might be,

631
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 5: and I'm just not seeing it in this offense. I

632
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 5: think the additions help. Whoever ends up playing quarterback this

633
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 5: year is basically where I'm at. Henry and Smith tight

634
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 5: end twelve and thirteen. I think that's probably, you know,

635
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: the best bet.

636
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 4: Just if you're looking for any type of you know, consistency,

637
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: tight end is harder to find that and those two guys,

638
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 4: it would seem to me by the fact that they

639
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 4: have Nelson agil Or, Kendrick Bourne and Jacoby Myers projected

640
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: to start at wide receiver, it would seem to me

641
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: that Henry and Smith are going to be the focal

642
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: points to the offense. Those are the two guys that

643
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: if you look at their targets per rout run, which

644
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: is pretty predictive even you change teams, because it's just

645
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: how well you get open. Obviously other factors come into

646
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: play too, but those guys are the two guys that

647
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: we the way in terms of their career numbers. So

648
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 4: I think Henry will be the number one option because

649
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: he has been targeted on a higher basis per route

650
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: than Smith. But I think that's your best bet. You

651
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: have Agal at wide receiver fifty eight, and you have

652
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: Myers and and Born out of the top one hundred,

653
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: best ball maybe one of you know, I think Myers

654
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: probably is the best value out of those guys, just

655
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: because we've seen him do the five catch per game thing, right, Like,

656
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: we've seen him be that number one receiver, And even

657
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 4: with Agalar and Born in a mix, I think I

658
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: think Myers might still be the number one, or at least,

659
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: you know, the most productive Patriot wide receiver because I

660
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: think those other two guys are more complimentary and we've

661
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 4: seen Myers in a little bit more of a lead role.

662
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's tough though.

663
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: I think I go with Myers as a best ball

664
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: dart and then are running back. We had Harris finally

665
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: come on last year, but it's you mentioned it. The Patriots,

666
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: we never really know what they're going to do. Any

667
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: thoughts in your backfield.

668
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a mess on the surface when you

669
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: do projections, it's really hard to do the Patriots. But

670
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 5: I actually like Damien Harris right now at his ADP.

671
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: You know, he's around the thirty four to thirty five range.

672
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 5: That's when you can take gambles and you know, there's

673
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 5: certain paths to upside here where we can get ahead

674
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 5: of his ADP going up. You know, once we get

675
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 5: closer to training camp. One of the paths is they

676
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 5: trade away Sony Michelle. You know it's certainly possible. But

677
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 5: also there's another path here where they announced mac Jones

678
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 5: as the week one starter. I think both scenarios, his

679
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 5: ADP shoots up into the high twenties. Either way, Like,

680
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 5: even if neither one of those happened, I think he's

681
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 5: a fair price at running back thirty four.

682
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: So he's a guy.

683
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 5: I'm just you know, we're talking about like mid July

684
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 5: Best Ball drafts. He's a guy I'm just trying to

685
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 5: get ahead of potential news where his ADP jumps up.

686
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: So I like him, and like you said, he finally

687
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 5: broke out last year. I think they trust him in

688
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 5: sort of that old Sony Michelle role. So you know,

689
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 5: hopefully they realize they don't need both Harris and Sony

690
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 5: Michelle and do something with Michelle that no longer involves

691
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 5: on this roster, because like you said, it is very

692
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: tricky to project this. This running back I want to

693
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 5: say like Trio, but it's more like a quad situation

694
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 5: with Ron Moore Stevenson, who they took in the fourth round.

695
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 5: He's a guy that could make some noise too, so

696
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 5: he's a potential guy to take later in Best Balls

697
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 5: in my opinion, Yeah, I.

698
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: Mean Ramindrie Stevenson. He might have like a Harris rookie

699
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: year where I just don't know if he gets on

700
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: the active list all that often, especially if they don't

701
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: trade Michelle, because you're gonna have Harris and Michelle, You're

702
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: gonna need White for those passing downs, and you know

703
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: you may have a special team or We'll see if

704
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: if Stevenson.

705
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: Fills that role.

706
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: But they've they've had four back's active in the past.

707
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: We know they'll use the full back as well. But

708
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna have that second tight end, you know, playing

709
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: a bigger role, so you may have to keep an

710
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 4: extra tight end active, So you know it's tough with him.

711
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, I like Harris at RB thirty four as well.

712
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: I think he was.

713
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 4: He was a number three graded PFF back last year,

714
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: one of the higher rated backs in yards after contact,

715
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 4: which is a lot more predictive than yards before contact

716
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: for running back, and Harris was up over three in that,

717
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: So I think he's got some upside there and may

718
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: continue to just be that feature back. Obviously, you sert

719
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: Michelle last year, what's the Patriots prop?

720
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 5: How many games will Mac Jones start? I have it

721
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 5: at seven and a half right now.

722
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm going over.

723
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: I do have it at eight and a half, So

724
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 4: I just have him and Cam equal. I just really

725
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: at this point, I don't think we know. But given

726
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: Cam Newton's age, given how poorly he performed against tougher

727
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: competition last year, just and given what the Patriots spent

728
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: draft capital wise on mac Jones, even though they obviously

729
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 4: got a good value for him considering where he was

730
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 4: projected to go initially to the forty nine ers. I

731
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: still think Cam is on are really thin ice and

732
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: I think it was an obvious needs for an upgrade,

733
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: you know, with him, And I think all the moves

734
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: that they made were not to kind of help Cam Newton,

735
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 4: it was to kind of transition this offense back to

736
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: what they were doing with Tom Brady, a more Mac

737
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: Jones like quarterback in terms of style, you know, in

738
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: the early two thousand and ten. So I'm going to

739
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: eight five, but that'll probably rise. I think Cam could

740
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: start the year, I just I just don't think he

741
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: finishes it either because.

742
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: Of health, their performance.

743
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: And speaking of quarterbacks, the Jets drafted a new one,

744
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson Broadway Zach. Maybe maybe he's just another Sam Donald.

745
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: What do you think about this Jets? Really it's a

746
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 4: whole new team. I mean you have new coach, Robert Sowen,

747
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: new offensive coordinator, and Mike Lfloor new quarterback and Zach Wilson,

748
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: you know, just a lot of new pieces on this team.

749
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: What is your outlook of how things will change for

750
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: the Jets this year compared to the last couple with Darnold,

751
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: that quarterback you already mentioned.

752
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 5: But yeah, no more Adam Gase. Rejoice, we can finally

753
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 5: invest in the Jets again. I think I'm not going

754
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: to shy away from Zach Wilson. I think he's worth

755
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 5: a fire, especially in Best Ball. You know, he's gonna

756
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: have his ups and downs his rookie season, but you know,

757
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 5: he has a dual threat ability. We love him fantasy

758
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 5: and he's He's has a very aggressive playing style and

759
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 5: he has a ton of weapons around him. You know,

760
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 5: I feel bad for Sam Donald. He didn't have the

761
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 5: same supporting cast that Zack Wilson's gonna have. We'll talk

762
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 5: about when we get to receivers. But I think he

763
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: has a ton of weapons. He's in the position to

764
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: succeed this year. So I think, you know, especially if

765
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 5: you get him in the you know, QB twenty eight

766
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 5: range and a Best ball format, sign me up for that.

767
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Zach Wilson to me is a steal.

768
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 4: Like this is it's actually crazy that we're like there's

769
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: been more offseason talk about this Donald move to Carolina,

770
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: which I think is just kind of a low upside

771
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 4: kind of fallback move for them. And Zach Wilson, who, yeah,

772
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: he's not perfect yet. You know, his schedule was weaker

773
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. You know, the competition level a question.

774
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: But I mean, you just watched this guy play. He

775
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: can make every throw. He's falling every which way. It's pinpoint.

776
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: It's not just a strong arm. He's accurate. This could

777
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 4: just be a huge surprise for people that are sleeping

778
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: on Zach Wilson and this entire offense, you know, because

779
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: obviously the quarterback is gonna factor in the most. So

780
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: that's why I like, you know, guy like tu Attagabu

781
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 4: wha like I have Wilson ranked above him. I think

782
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: that Wilson he's going to start from day one, that's

783
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 4: not even and he's going to get all the stars

784
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: because you have no reason to bench him, whereas there

785
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: are some question marks about some of these other guys

786
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 4: and how many starts they're going to make. And then

787
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: the arm talent for me really really pushes over the top.

788
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: So I love Wilson.

789
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: And then you mentioned the wide receivers. You have Corey

790
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: Davis there, you have Elijah Moore. Now the rookie drafted

791
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 4: and then you know you still have Denzel Mims entering

792
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 4: year two.

793
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: How do you think this? This this kind of shakes

794
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: out as far as where the targets go.

795
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: Oh.

796
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: Man, I love Elijah Moore. I think he's He's one

797
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 5: of my favorite rookies. And I was hoping, I was

798
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: just praying that they would cut Jamison Crowder, but they

799
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: stared his contract so they kept him on. So that

800
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 5: that makes us very messy. Rumor has it that Denzel Mims,

801
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 5: while he's one of the more talented receivers on this roster,

802
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 5: he just doesn't fit well in this Laflora slash Shanahan

803
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 5: sell scheme, so he could be phased out. He could

804
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: be the wide receiver for it, which is a shame.

805
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 5: So I'm expecting klan Cole to get more targets than

806
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: him this year.

807
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: Oh wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, now we gotta

808
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: we gotta go back to that. That's an interesting and

809
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: it's it's not crazy. I just want to stop you

810
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 4: because it's fat. It's important because I always think it's

811
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 4: really important to look at not just the players and

812
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 4: how they performed. And you know, everyone always has their

813
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 4: little buzzy reasons for being higher on a player being

814
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: a player's truther.

815
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: But you look at what a team did and try

816
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: to figure out what they're thinking.

817
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: Okay, you know Sally and the Floor come in, they

818
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: keep Crowder, They could have cut him, They go out

819
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 4: and get Corey Davis. They could have stuck with just

820
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: Nim's Crowder. And you know they draft Elijah More. You know,

821
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: if they knew they were going to spend capital on

822
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 4: a receiver, they didn't have to go out and get

823
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: core Davis. Even they could have said, okay, we're going

824
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: to count on that year one, a.

825
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: Year two week for Mems. So it's really interesting.

826
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 4: On one hand, you have, Okay, we usually expect these

827
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 4: big jumps from from got talented, you know higher.

828
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: You know, day one, Day two picks like Mims.

829
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: But at the same time you're saying he might end

830
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: up like fifth on the depth chart because they also

831
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: not only did they go get Davis and Moore and

832
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 4: decide to keep a veteran Crowder, but they also get

833
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 4: another pretty dependable guy that can play all three positions

834
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: in Q and Cole. So so you think Mimes actually

835
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: ends up like fifth.

836
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a mess and like, I love Denzel Mems,

837
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 5: Like I was so excited for him entering this year,

838
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 5: but you just hit the nail and head. All these

839
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 5: moves indicate. And you know, we have to remember they

840
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 5: inherited Denzel Mims. It's not like they drafted him last year.

841
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 5: This is a new regime, new coaching, so they you know,

842
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 5: Mims doesn't fit their plans is what I'm afraid of.

843
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 5: So I'm down on him. And you know, even when

844
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 5: you mentioned Corey Davis, like, I'm down on him as well,

845
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 5: because hey, this is a crowded wide receiver group. But

846
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 5: you know, he won't benefit from teams putting all the

847
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: resources into stopping a J. Brown and Derrick Henry and

848
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 5: Johnny Smith. I mean, he's going to be the focal point.

849
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 5: So he's going to have to go up against Gilmore,

850
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 5: against Tredevious White, against Xavian Howard two times year. Like

851
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 5: he's going to draw the defensive you know, double teams potentially,

852
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 5: but he's going to draw the best cornerback for every team.

853
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 5: So I think he helps open up for a guy

854
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 5: like Elijah Moore. So I think out of this group,

855
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 5: Elijah Moore is the only guy I'm like attacking at

856
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: ADP because I think he has so much upside and

857
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 5: he fits this scheme perfectly.

858
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: So Elijah Moore is the guy targeting.

859
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love more at wide receiver fifty six. I

860
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 4: think that's a that's a perfect way to put it.

861
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: You know, Corey Davis, I mean, I actually think he

862
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 4: does have some some upside because again, I just think

863
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 4: really highly of Zach Wilson. I think Zach Wilson has

864
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: top twelve quarterback up side, you know, straight up like

865
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 4: he's going he'll be twenty seven right now.

866
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: I think he could finish in the top twelve. That's

867
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: how much I like him.

868
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: So I think Davis just being that top target or

869
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: you know, he has the requids up side that comes

870
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: with that with you know, with Wilson and his yard,

871
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: his targets per route run has been increasing. So I

872
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 4: think there's still a lot to like with Davis, whereas, yeah,

873
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: I'm kind of with you. I think Nims is the

874
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 4: odd man out, and I think Crowder will still be

875
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: sneaky in PPR. You know, he's going as the you know,

876
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 4: the number fifty five and David is actually only forty nine.

877
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: I misspoke. So forty nine I liked. I actually liked the.

878
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: Value for Davis and Crowder and and more at forty nine,

879
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 4: fifty five, and fifty six because you're essentially just assuming

880
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: that that Zach Wilson is a bottom five quarterback with

881
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: these rankings like this, and the Jets still aren't going

882
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: to get much from the tight end position.

883
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: So what is our Jets prop that you got for us?

884
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 3: Uh?

885
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: So my prop is Elijah more total receptions. I have

886
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 5: that at fifty two and a half right now.

887
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: I I have it under but I like I like

888
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 4: where you're I like where you're at because I think

889
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: I think the median is a little lower. I have

890
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 4: it around forty, but I do think and that's again

891
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 4: because of the uncertainty because of Key and Cole, the

892
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 4: fifth five receiver factoring in that there's not many teams

893
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 4: that even have a fifth receiver projected at this point

894
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: or fourth you know, could be like you said, So

895
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 4: that's why I'm being a little conservative. But I do

896
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: like the upside. I do like the value of where

897
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: he's going. ADP wise, it's cold, does scare because it's

898
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 4: kind of like the Jags receivers last year, where you could,

899
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: like you could have liked any one of them, and

900
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: they all gave you some good weeks, but because you

901
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: had cold, you know.

902
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: Kind of factoring it more than we thought.

903
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 4: And you know, it was just kind of more of

904
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: a four man show, even without the tight end playing

905
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: much of a role. And I fear it could be

906
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 4: like that again. But certainly like him. I'm not as

907
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 4: high as fifty plus catches yet though, But Zach Gilston

908
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 4: is really a guy I'm i'm I'm I'm looking at

909
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 4: And therefore I think in Bestball Draft some jet stacks.

910
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 4: They're all cheap. You can get them all. And we

911
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 4: didn't even mention the running backs. Do you think it's

912
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 4: Coleman leading the way or Carter?

913
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

914
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 5: Maybe not week one. I mean it's a mess. And

915
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 5: now I'm hearing that Josh Adams has a chance to

916
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 5: win the Week one star role, so I think it

917
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 5: gives us a chance harder. But yeah, I'm avoiding it

918
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 5: for now. I mean, we have five backs where any

919
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: one of them can be the Week one starter, so

920
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 5: they're very tricky to project right now.

921
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Carter. I like Carter at running back.

922
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 4: Thirty nine rookie running backs tend to outperformer ADP. Again,

923
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson, if he's just if he's like in fantasy terms,

924
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: he's even like ten spots better in ADP, then he

925
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 4: then he's ranked because he's he would still be like

926
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 4: a borderline top twenty guy. This offense, like everyone else's

927
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 4: ADP probably shoots up or their performance should shoot up

928
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: like ten spots, you know. So I do like Carter.

929
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 4: I think he has a chance to be a top

930
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 4: twenty four guy. I think Coleman's going to kind of

931
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 4: be the same you know, eight to ten touch guy

932
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 4: he's always been with Shanahan. And then I'm looking out

933
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 4: now that you mentioned it about Denzel Milms being the

934
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 4: new Dante Pettis. Pettis went from a promising rookie year

935
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: to twenty four targets and eleven catches in year two

936
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 4: under Shanahan with solid air on defense.

937
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I mean that was a good comparison.

938
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: You know, you know you're right.

939
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 5: That's why I hate it, Like I want Mims to

940
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 5: be four plus catch game like that's how much I

941
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 5: love him.

942
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 3: But I think you're I'm afraid you're right.

943
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: That when you said Cole that just I mean, I

944
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: hadn't really thought of Cole as the jumping mims, but

945
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 4: it's certainly possible. Let's go to AFC Central Baltimore Ravens,

946
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson. We're still doing a you know, top four

947
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: quarterback with him. He's he's the QB four and ADP

948
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: of any thoughts on him, and you know, is that

949
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: is that about right? Do you like him over Kyler

950
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: or Jackson or any or anybody, excuse me, or Allen

951
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 4: in that two spot.

952
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 5: I haven't met QB four. I don't think I would

953
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 5: take him over Kyler, but I certainly think all four

954
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 5: of these are very close. So I'm willing to wait.

955
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 5: And if you can get Lamar's r QB four, you're

956
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 5: potentially getting the QB one overall. So I love getting

957
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: Lamar late, especially if this Ravens offense becomes a bit

958
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 5: more balanced. You know, they added Sammy Watkins, Rashaun Bateman

959
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 5: and to Wallace in the draft. They certainly have the

960
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 5: weapons to be a more balanced attack, and you know,

961
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 5: have him throw more, he can return to QB one

962
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: form that we saw in twenty nineteen. So I love

963
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 5: getting him at ADP right now.

964
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: And Mark Andrews, you know at tight end for the Ravens.

965
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: He's still a top four guy as well. Not too

966
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: much to talk about with him. The wide receivers kind

967
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: of interesting. So you know they go out and they

968
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: get Sammy Watkins, they have they go get Bateman, they.

969
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: Still have.

970
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 4: Mark he's Brown is I mean, Brown's at wide receiver

971
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 4: forty four, Bateman's at sixty and then you have you know,

972
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 4: Wallace at ninety eight, you have Watkins, you know in

973
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: the seventies. Any of those guys stand at his values

974
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: or you think it's going to continue to be to

975
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 4: Mark Andrews show mainly for Ravens.

976
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it'll be the Mark Andrews Show. But

977
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 5: I think Mark Keith Brown is sneaky. You know, his

978
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 5: ADP's dipped a bit and rightfully so you know there's

979
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 5: more weapons in this offense. But you know he could

980
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 5: benefit for there being more talent, Like he's the kind

981
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 5: of guy he doesn't need that many targets hit value,

982
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 5: So he's kind of a sneaky flyer later in the

983
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 5: drafts and you know, he really came on at the

984
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 5: end of last year from weeks twelve through seventeen he

985
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 5: was wide receiver nine, so he's had flashes of you know,

986
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 5: having this you know, wide receiver one upside, you know,

987
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 5: a few weeks at a time, and then disappears. So

988
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 5: he's inconsistent, which you know is why he be your

989
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 5: wide receiver four. You know, the guy that you stash

990
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 5: on your bench. He could hit this year, so I

991
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 5: like taking him as the bench dashed. Whereas Watkins and Bateman,

992
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 5: you know, one of them could pop, but who knows.

993
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 5: I just think they make lamar better than the other

994
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 5: way around. So I'm avoiding anybody behind Mark Keith Brown

995
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 5: at this point.

996
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you say one of them could pop,

997
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: Baitman could pop, Like it's not gonna be Sammy Watkins Like.

998
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: It's not it's not gonna be Man Like it's over.

999
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 4: Does not even pop with fifty touchdown lead MVP richest man,

1000
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Quarterback ever, Like couldn't pot

1001
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: with him outside of you know, a few games here

1002
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: and there because everyone's covering Tyreek and Kelsey like he's

1003
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 4: essentially like he's he's washed. I'm just gonna put it

1004
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 4: out there. It's a lower volume, a much lower volume

1005
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: offense with a not as good passer, it's gotta be Bateman.

1006
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 4: I do think Brown has some upside because he's still

1007
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: the guy that would, like you said, get free.

1008
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: But like there you can get.

1009
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 4: You can get like promising rookies that maybe wide receiver

1010
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: one or twos by the end of the year, like

1011
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 4: or you know, at least wide receiver twos like Saint

1012
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: Brown and Detroit Dan Fitzpatrick and Tennessee. Like you can

1013
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 4: get these guys after uh, Sammy Watkins in drafts, which

1014
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: is as like even a Darius Slayton, like you know,

1015
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: like you have guys that could legit be like a

1016
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: number of top two to three option for their team

1017
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 4: over a guy that's been that for the best passing

1018
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 4: team and still has done nothing is.

1019
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: Sam Like it's like I'm ready to say DeMarcus.

1020
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: Robinson's gonna outperform Sammy Watkins at this point. You could

1021
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 4: get Robinson after him too, Like that's I'm just I'm

1022
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: all the way out on Sammy Watkins. Give me Byron

1023
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 4: Pringle seventeen spots later in Best Ball And I'm not

1024
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 4: I'm not joking in the slightest Paris camb I mean,

1025
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 4: there's the names on this list like that. You see

1026
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 4: an ADP after Watkins, it's just absurd. Don't I'm not

1027
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: don't draft him, That's that's my that's my advice on him.

1028
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: But JK.

1029
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 4: Dobbins RB fifteen Gus Edwards RB forty one. Is that

1030
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: is that the right split?

1031
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: No? I think it should be closer.

1032
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: And you know, obviously Dobbins is the way better talent, Like,

1033
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: I'll give you that, but if you look at weeks

1034
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 5: eight through seventeen last year, well after marking was pretty

1035
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 5: much phase out of the offense, you know what we

1036
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 5: expect going into this year. You know that the percent

1037
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 5: of Team Russia's Russia attempts were pretty close.

1038
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: JK.

1039
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: Dobbins had thirty two percent, Gus Edwards had twenty five percent.

1040
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: So it's pretty close. Russi attempts inside the five Dobbins

1041
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 5: had seven and Gus Edwards had nine. Obviously Dobbins is

1042
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 5: way more efficient with those. He scored six touchdowns on those,

1043
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 5: and then when it comes to targets, Edwards topped them

1044
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 5: eleven targets to ten. So I just think, yeah, it's

1045
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 5: you don't think of Gus Edwards as a pass catching

1046
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 5: back now, don.

1047
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: So Sammy Watkins is gonna take the Gus Edwards.

1048
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 3: Row basically, So you know, we expect Dobbins to.

1049
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: You know, get way more of the share heading into

1050
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 5: this year, but you know it should be a little

1051
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 5: bit closer. So I just love getting Edwards later in

1052
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 5: the draft. He could have flex value, you know, when

1053
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 5: we're expecting a positive game script if if the Ravens

1054
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 5: are double digit favorites, let's say, you'll know when to

1055
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 5: play Edwards. So I just love taking Edwards in that range.

1056
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 5: And then he has running back two potential in the

1057
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 5: event that Dobbins goes down. So I just think that

1058
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 5: based on the ADP, Edwards is the back to target here.

1059
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean rb shifteen a's I mean you're going

1060
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 4: you're talking about a head of Josh Jacobs, Clyde Edwards,

1061
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: E Layer, DeAndre Swift, Chris Carson, David Wtt, like guys

1062
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 4: that are like focal points of their offenses, whether you

1063
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: think they should be or not. I know people have

1064
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: different opinions on Montgomery and Carson and some of those guys,

1065
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 4: but the bottom line is like that, this is why

1066
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: I say I'm more open to a guy like Miles

1067
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 4: Gasking at RB twenty four because I'm not sure Dobbins

1068
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 4: outperforms a guy like Gasking, Because yes, Dobbins, you know,

1069
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: does have upside to be RB fifteen, but you're taking

1070
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: him out of ceiling because the Ravens have always kind

1071
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 4: of mixed and match backs because you they that's just

1072
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 4: kind of the philosophy to keep guys healthy, and they're

1073
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: such a run heavy offense that you kind of have to.

1074
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like Dobbins as a player.

1075
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 4: I wish he wasn't already being taken at his ceiling,

1076
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: but I think it's absurd that he's going ahead of again,

1077
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: guys like Jacobs and Carson and Sanders and Swift in Montgomery.

1078
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 4: I just think he should be kind of in that,

1079
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 4: you know, twenty to twenty five range. Then you're getting

1080
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 4: some decent upsides. So what's our Ravens prop.

1081
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 5: Our Ravens prop is JK. Dobbins rushing touchdowns. I have

1082
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 5: the line, say eight and a half, what.

1083
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 4: Are you yeah under? Because I have it at eight

1084
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 4: point four? But all right there, you're right, Yeah, it

1085
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 4: could go either way. I mean, it's such a run

1086
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 4: heavy offense that you know he could easily end up

1087
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: with double digit But I just think you're talking about

1088
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 4: a top fifteen running back in terms of where you

1089
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 4: have to draft him. I just think you can't count

1090
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 4: on that from him, you know, g just based on

1091
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 4: what we've seen from how the Ravens are giving up

1092
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: carries in the past. So yeah, I'll go under. But

1093
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: he's just a bollatile. He's a frozen pond guy for me,

1094
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 4: even though I think it's a great talent. Let's move

1095
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 4: on to the Bengals. You have Joe Burrow coming off

1096
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 4: the injury. You have Mixing right around Dobbins eighty per

1097
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 4: I mean who do you like more, Mixing or Dobbins

1098
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: at running back?

1099
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: Oh?

1100
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 5: Like Mixing by a mile, it's not even close. I

1101
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 5: will give you that. Dobbins fits the frozen pond description

1102
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 5: to a t. But yeah, Joe Mixon if he stays healthy,

1103
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 5: I mean he has top five potential this year right

1104
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 5: with without Jeo Bernard. Yeah, hopefully we'll see him, you know,

1105
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 5: see the true word course role.

1106
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 3: So you know, I love Joe Mixon this year.

1107
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 5: I think you know, getting him at the end of

1108
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 5: the RB one tier, I think you do it. I

1109
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 5: think labeling guys as injury prone can get you in trouble.

1110
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 5: I think just take Joe Mixon, assuming he'll be just

1111
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 5: as healthy as every other back. So I love his

1112
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 5: upside here. So yeah, like, sign me up for mixing,

1113
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 5: And how dare you compare him at all to JK.

1114
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 3: Dobbans.

1115
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 5: It's a completely completely different situation. So give me mix

1116
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 5: and all that.

1117
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 4: I'm doing it for the average drafter, which I mean,

1118
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 4: I think our listeners probably would have sharpened any average drafter.

1119
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: But still, if you're listening right now, it's still July,

1120
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 4: you know you have Mixing going RB fourteen and Dobbin's

1121
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 4: going RB fifteen. So this is a choice that people

1122
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 4: are having to make as they start, you know, ramping

1123
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: up their draft and pre draft process. So but I

1124
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: do like Joe Burrows as the QB twelve. I think

1125
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: there's some some upside there. I think they're still but

1126
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 4: they've thrown a ton in these years since since Taylor

1127
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: got there. Uh And the main event that we have

1128
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: to talk about the Bengals, Jamar Chase Burrow is old

1129
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: running mate, is on the team. They draft him over

1130
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 4: a lineman, even though Burrow got hurt because he had

1131
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 4: no line you know, offensive line play tough to predict

1132
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: from your to year. I think it'll be a little

1133
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 4: better than last year. But I mean, the sky's the

1134
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: women for this past offense, especially considering the volume with

1135
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 4: and then you have Chase and Higgins, right.

1136
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm curious to hear where you guys have this

1137
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 5: story out. I'm in line with ADP. I think you know,

1138
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 5: Higgins and Chase, they're a better on talent when it

1139
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 5: comes to the ADP. You know that low end wide

1140
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 5: receiver Tea Range. I love t Higgins, love him. You

1141
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 5: can sell me on Jamar Chase there, Tyler Boyd I

1142
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 5: think could leave the team in targets. So I think

1143
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 5: this just makes me like Joe Burrow than any one

1144
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 5: of these guys specifically. But how do you have these

1145
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 5: wide receivers sorted out? Because I'm pretty much in line

1146
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 5: with ADP right now?

1147
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I especially I like Higgins, I like

1148
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 4: Higgins Chase Boyd in that order. I do think that

1149
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 4: you know, Higgins going at twenty eight wis twenty eight,

1150
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 4: Chase at thirty one. I think both of those guys

1151
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 4: could actually beat their ADPs. And boy Like I think

1152
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 4: the Bengals.

1153
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: Are a legit threat to have three top thirty wide receivers.

1154
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: But I think Boyd is a guy who probably you know,

1155
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: is a round ADP or maybe a bit below. I

1156
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 4: think all three of those guys are very good receivers obviously,

1157
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: And and Ret's remember AJ Green controlled you know, thirty

1158
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 4: percent of their are yards last year and he.

1159
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: Was not producing at all, just complutingly.

1160
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that like that just pumps Burrow up more

1161
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: that that gives more space for Higgins or you just

1162
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: give Chase thirty percent, which then he's blowing up. And

1163
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 4: because the offense will be better almost unquestionably without AJ

1164
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 4: Green's empty, inefficient targets, that's better for Tyler Boyd and

1165
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 4: Joe Mixon, like you said, and there's still no tight ends.

1166
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 4: I mean, sample probably starts the soma, you know who's

1167
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 4: coming off the injury.

1168
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: So this is just a great situation.

1169
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: I wouldn't shy away from any Bengals wide receiver, but

1170
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 4: especially not Higgins and Chase. I think the team could

1171
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: be top five in pass attempts just given their talent,

1172
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 4: Like just okay, we're good at passing, so we're going

1173
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 4: to pass. And that's what they've been doing, you know,

1174
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 4: from a mix of being you know bad as a

1175
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: team and being bad on defense and but also just.

1176
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: Their coach wikes the pass. So yeah, I love this

1177
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: Bengals team.

1178
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 5: What do you think about add and Tate as like

1179
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 5: a good late round flyer because he's going to be

1180
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 5: sort of the Josh Reynolds role where if any one

1181
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 5: of these three goes down, like he'll step right in

1182
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 5: and take most of their snaps. So where do you like?

1183
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 5: Do you think he's a good late round investment?

1184
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and definitely in a deeper best ball format. Absolutely,

1185
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: you know he's he's a guy, and I believe they

1186
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: like him on.

1187
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: Special teams too, so he should be active.

1188
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 4: And this is a four wide receiver team a lot

1189
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: of the time because they don't have a lot at

1190
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 4: tight end.

1191
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 1: So what's our Bengals prop?

1192
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 5: Our Bengals prop is okay? So who's gonna score more

1193
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 5: half point PPR Fantasy points? Jamar Chase or Ti Higgins?

1194
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 4: This could go either way. I have him, I have

1195
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: him neck nick. I actually have chased a point one ahead.

1196
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 4: So literally it's close per per per game, I mean,

1197
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 4: oh when ahead per game per game? So like it

1198
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 4: could go either way. I think you could make a

1199
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 4: case for either. I mean, Higgins obviously has that extra

1200
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 4: year of experience, but Chase is so talented and they're

1201
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 4: just gonna help each other out. I think week to

1202
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 4: week it's just gonna it's gonna be like a Julio

1203
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: Ridley thing or.

1204
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: Something like that.

1205
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 4: You know that was, you know it's you may not

1206
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 4: be able to predict who's the better guy or who

1207
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 4: even finishes higher, but I don't think it's gonna matter.

1208
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 4: I think both of these guys have that have immense

1209
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 4: potential to beat their ADP. So like I have Chase,

1210
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 4: but just draft bo don't don't shy away from either.

1211
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 5: So I have Jamar Chase projected for literally one more

1212
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 5: point than.

1213
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 4: T oh yeah, so we're right on. Yeah, it's about

1214
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: the same way you get yeah point one per week.

1215
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: That's how you get it right. All right, let's go.

1216
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to Cleveland.

1217
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, you know, showed tremendous drives last year, but

1218
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 4: he's a guy that not really gonna give you a

1219
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: ton rushing. So he's still QB seventeen and ADP. I

1220
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: think that's fair. But what are we doing this? Year

1221
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 4: with the backs for Cleveland. You know we have Chubb

1222
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: RB seven right now Kareem Hunt RB twenty three?

1223
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: Is that about right to you? You thinks should be closer?

1224
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 5: Man, I love both backs, and you know I'm projecting

1225
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 5: Chubb right around there running back eight. But he's like

1226
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 5: one of the only running backs in the top ten

1227
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 5: where if the backup goes down, he's now. You know,

1228
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 5: I would project Chubb as a top three back, maybe

1229
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 5: top two. If Kareem Hunt were whatever miss time. We

1230
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 5: always talk about if chubbur a miss time, cream Hunt

1231
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 5: would obviously be a top five to ten running back.

1232
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 5: But the reverse hasn't necessarily happened yet, So you know,

1233
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 5: sign me up for Nick Chubb at his ADP. I

1234
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 5: think the defense being improved. You know last year they

1235
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 5: got in a bunch of shootouts because the defense is

1236
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 5: so horrible. I think that helped Baker Mayfield at the

1237
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 5: end of the season, you know, when he just went

1238
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 5: off in a couple of games. But I think this

1239
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 5: improved defense, the moves they made an offseason, it's going

1240
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 5: to help Nick Chubb out even more. This is still

1241
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 5: one of the best offensive lines in football. Everything is

1242
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 5: setting up for Nick Chubb to just have an amazing season,

1243
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 5: so sign me up for him. And again, I always

1244
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 5: love getting Cream Hunt in that RB twenty four range

1245
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 5: because you know he's gonna provide that value week to

1246
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 5: week anyway.

1247
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 3: But any game that.

1248
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 5: Nick Chubb messes, you're gonna get a top five, top five,

1249
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 5: top ten running back with Cream Hunt. So I love

1250
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 5: both running backs at their ADP. This this team is

1251
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 5: built to supply, you know, two stud running backs.

1252
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Wide receivers Odell going as the wide receiver

1253
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 4: twenty five, Landry thirty nine.

1254
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on those two guys, because.

1255
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 4: You've mentioned it's gonna be a better defense, but it's

1256
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 4: not like even with the shootouts last year, it's not

1257
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 4: like they were passing a ton. Obviously, Beckham goes down

1258
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: at may Have, you know, backered in.

1259
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to like Beckham at his ADP at

1260
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 5: twenty five. He's obviously worth it in best ball. You know,

1261
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 5: he's their play action deep threat guy. But I just

1262
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 5: don't think he's gonna get the volume to be a

1263
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 5: consistent week to week, you know, wide receiver one slash

1264
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 5: two like we thought he'd in this Browns offense, I'm

1265
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 5: sort of off him, whereas you know Landry, what you

1266
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 5: see is what you get. I'm right in line with ADP,

1267
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 5: you know, I think wide receiver forty is a good

1268
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 5: range to target him, especially in PPR formats.

1269
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 3: But I mean, are either.

1270
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 5: One of these guys popping for you because I just

1271
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 5: don't see it now.

1272
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: Not guys. I'm excited to draft guys. I'm fine drafting

1273
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: at ADP.

1274
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 4: I think I have Beckham a couple of ticks lower

1275
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: than his ADPN and Landry a couple of ticks higher.

1276
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 4: I just don't think Beckham's the same player that he

1277
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 4: used to be. I mean, it's sad to say I

1278
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 4: think he still can. You know he's gonna play, he's

1279
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: gonna be out there, he's gonna put up numbers.

1280
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: But and the offense has improved under Stefanski.

1281
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I think it's it's it's just

1282
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 4: a question of do you think he's the same player.

1283
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 4: Then you're saying, okay, well, wide receiver twenty five that

1284
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 4: could be a steal. I just don't think he's the

1285
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 4: same player. I think him and Landry are a lot

1286
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 4: more equal now in talent and their ability to draw

1287
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 4: targets in a given week.

1288
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper, and he loved for him.

1289
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 4: I know he had some big games down the stretch,

1290
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 4: but he's kind of crapped in there with in that committee.

1291
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1292
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 5: No, I mean you can recall my love for Hooper

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00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 5: in the twenty nineteen season when he had Dirt Cutter

1294
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 5: and he's on the Falcons, and then once he got

1295
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 5: tray of the Browns, I was off. You know, they

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00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 5: love using two even three tight end sets. To Hooper's credit,

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00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 5: he was still able to hog about seventy percent of

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00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 5: the routes run per game, but it's just hard to

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00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 5: love him. I think if they were to get rid

1300
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 5: of David Joku, I might consider Hooper as ADP. But

1301
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 5: it's just hard to love him based on just their

1302
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 5: just heavy tight end usage. And I think Harrison Bryant

1303
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 5: has some sneaky upside, So you know, count me out

1304
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 5: unless they cut in Joku. And you know, we can

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00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 5: count Hooper to get you know, eighty plus percent of

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00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 5: the routes run.

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00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 4: But right now I'm just off them completely. Yeah, I

1308
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 4: think it's too much. There's too many tight ends there.

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00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 4: What is our Browns prop?

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00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 5: Browns prop is Odell Beckham total receiving yard this year

1311
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 5: over under eight seventy five and a half.

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00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 4: I have him at nine to twenty seven, so I'll

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00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: go over again. I just think this is it's just volume.

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00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 4: I think he'll be on the field when he's healthy.

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00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 4: You know, tough to know will he stay healthy. He's

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00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 4: had a season where he played almost every snap. He's

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00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 4: had years where he's gone down with freak injuries. I

1318
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 4: just don't think he's the same player. So that's why

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00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 4: I even, you know, I'm not projecting him for like,

1320
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 4: you know, to miss a ton of games. It's just

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00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 4: I don't think efficiency wise, he's the same guy used

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00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 4: to be.

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00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he can create after the catch as

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00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: well as he used to.

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Speaker 4: So, but I do have him at nine to twenty seven,

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00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 4: So I'm going a little bit a little bit over there,

1327
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 4: but I'm pretty much in line with that with that range,

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00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: you know, somewhere in the mid eight hundreds to the

1329
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 4: mid nine hundreds.

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Speaker 2: back to the show.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers Ben Roethlisberger back.

1362
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 4: They have those three wide receivers, so we'll save Naji Harris,

1363
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 4: the rookie back for last.

1364
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: Just want to get your thoughts on how this.

1365
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 4: You know, heading into year two, you have Deontay Johnson

1366
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 4: at wide receiver twenty three and ADP Chase Claypool at

1367
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 4: wide receiver twenty seven, and then Juju going off the

1368
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 4: board twenty nine, So you have three Steelers going between

1369
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 4: twenty and thirty.

1370
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: Is that about right? And do you agree with the

1371
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: order of Deontay, Chase and then Juju?

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: It's about right.

1373
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 5: I think you know, when it comes to foreign ceiling projections,

1374
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 5: I think Chase has the highest floor, highest ceiling, excuse me,

1375
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 5: so he makes sense for best ball whereas Juju probably

1376
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 5: has the higher floor that makes sense for season long leagues,

1377
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 5: and then Deontay has the best combination of both. And

1378
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 5: last year, you know, I think he let down on

1379
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 5: Big Ben and himself. Of course when it came to drops,

1380
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 5: he had fifteen drops last year, which is the league high.

1381
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 5: So how do you factor in drops when it comes

1382
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: to making projections.

1383
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 3: Is that something that you.

1384
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 5: Know, negatively affect your projections or is it something that

1385
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 5: you expect the player to bounce back? Like, I think

1386
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 5: it's a good sign that Deontay Johnson was getting drops

1387
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 5: because it meant he was getting open, so I think

1388
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 5: he left a lot of yards on the table, So

1389
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 5: I'm actually boosting his projections a bit by you know,

1390
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 5: expecting the regress culture of the mean on what you'd

1391
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 5: expect a receiver like him to be dropping the ball.

1392
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 5: But how do you factor and drops when it comes

1393
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 5: of projection.

1394
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of the saying way it's it's it's

1395
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 4: mostly regression to the mean based on their targets per

1396
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 4: route run and their catch rate. So you know, the

1397
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 4: more a guy doesn't catch the ball, the more his

1398
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 4: drops will be factored in.

1399
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: But it's still a lot a lot of regression.

1400
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 4: Like it's you it's not as bad as like fumbles

1401
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 4: or something where it's almost completely random. But you're not

1402
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 4: expecting a guy to drop fifteen more balls just because

1403
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 4: he dropped fifteen balls, but you are expecting him to

1404
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 4: kind of continue that target share. But I do think

1405
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 4: it's interesting because I actually like the Steelers receivers at

1406
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 4: ADP in terms of value in their reverse order, Like

1407
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 4: I think Juju has the most value because I don't

1408
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 4: think they're gonna use them the same way as they

1409
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 4: did last year, which was essentially the glorified tight end.

1410
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 4: I think with the new offense, you know, like he's

1411
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 4: very vocal about we're gonna use me differently. You know,

1412
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 4: we can't let me average under ten yards or catch again.

1413
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 4: And then you have Chase who you mentioned, you know,

1414
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 4: entering year two. I mean that he could just blow

1415
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: the ceiling off of all his you know, normal median projections, and.

1416
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: So Deontay very steady, very good receiver.

1417
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 4: But I think there's a decent chance that he could

1418
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 4: finish third in production. And it's it's kind of a

1419
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 4: toss up, and so give me the guys, you know,

1420
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 4: give me, give me, just give me the value by ADP.

1421
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: So it's not that I don't like Deontay, but I'm

1422
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: drafting them.

1423
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 4: Whereas I want to own Juju the most, I want

1424
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 4: to own Chase the most or both more. I want

1425
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 4: to own them both more than Deyontay this year, like.

1426
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 5: Similar to a tape when it came to the Bengals,

1427
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 5: Like James Washington is an other great late round flower

1428
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 5: because if either one of these receivers goes down, like

1429
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 5: he's gonna have wide receiver three potential. And you know,

1430
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 5: even when they're all healthy, he tends to have an

1431
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 5: annoying amount of routs run. You know, he'll he'll run

1432
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 5: thirty to forty percent of routes run each week, even

1433
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 5: all through your healthy. So he's kind of a guy

1434
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 5: that I've been targeting really light in best ball just

1435
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 5: based on the injury upside in this offense.

1436
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's definitely you know, they do have

1437
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 4: you know some guys that say tight end still I

1438
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: think you know that that could eat into it. But

1439
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 4: you know, Washington, if they if they pass at that

1440
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 4: same rate, He's always a guy in the conversation in

1441
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 4: deep leagues. But but a guy that's in a conversation

1442
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: and everybody's league is you know, rookie Naji Harris out

1443
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 4: of Alabama, and so it just give us the prop

1444
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 4: because that's that's gonna tell us more than anything else

1445
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 4: could about what we're thinking about nause.

1446
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, So with him, it's all about volume, right. So

1447
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 5: I have total rushing and receiving yards over under twelve

1448
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 5: fifty and a half.

1449
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: I'm at thirteen thirty four, so I'm going over. I

1450
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 4: think he's going to be their new WebM. I think

1451
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 4: they're going back to that workhorse Row. I don't think

1452
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 4: they liked how things kind of shook out the last

1453
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 4: two years. Connor was just a guy that was frozen

1454
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 4: pond after stepping in for Bell, and they kind of

1455
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 4: rode with it, but he couldn't stay healthy. I think

1456
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 4: they they drafted a big guy that can withstand punishment

1457
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 4: so they can they can play him eighty plus percent

1458
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 4: snaps or.

1459
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 5: Are you worried about this offensive line at all? Or

1460
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 5: are you just one of those Volume is King who

1461
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 5: cares kind of guys.

1462
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, for the most part, I think Volume

1463
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 4: is King because I think na he's going to be

1464
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 4: out there on running snaps. He's going to be out

1465
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 4: there on passing snaps, which is why I like that

1466
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 4: she made the prop. You know, what's his total yard

1467
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 4: is going to be because he's going to be out

1468
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 4: there one way or another doing you know, making that

1469
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 4: you know, making that offense go forward. So love Nase

1470
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 4: this year. I think he's a guy that I want

1471
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 4: him at his at his RB thirteen ADP. I think

1472
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 4: that's you know, I think he could be a top

1473
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 4: five back as early as year one, just because I

1474
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 4: think he gets a ton of usage and we don't

1475
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 4: see that much in the NFL. This year, Let's go

1476
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 4: to the Houston Texans. I mean, there's not much to

1477
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 4: talk about here, so just I.

1478
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 5: Mean, help me put this game right now?

1479
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: You can't.

1480
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, is there anybody you should care about in fantasy

1481
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 4: with the Houston Texans?

1482
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: I'll just asked out.

1483
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, maybe Brandon Cooks.

1484
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: That's about it, right, Yeah, I mean that's it when

1485
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: and Cooks is going right now, wide receiver thirty seven?

1486
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: Is that about right you think?

1487
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 3: Or yeah?

1488
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like whoever plays quarterback, whatever happens here, he's probably

1489
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 5: gonna have a massive target share. So I think if

1490
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 5: you're getting a guy that's gonna be a legit number

1491
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 5: one receiver in that range, I think it makes sense.

1492
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 5: He won't have guys like Will Fuller drawn, you know,

1493
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 5: attention from the defense or anything. But just at that range,

1494
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 5: just volume matters. So I love him there. Who the

1495
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 5: hell knows who's going to be playing quarterback there? But

1496
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 5: I think no matter how you shake it, I think

1497
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 5: Cooks is value there.

1498
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and David Johnson, I don't like it RB thirty

1499
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 4: three because you can get goat Windsy at RB fifty.

1500
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 4: Just take the guy that could end up getting more carries,

1501
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 4: mark Ingram. He's pretty much washed. I don't think it'd

1502
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 4: be much of a factor. But let's just go into

1503
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 4: the Texas prop. Yeah.

1504
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 5: So I mean just when it comes to projecting quarterback again,

1505
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 5: we have no clue when it comes to Deshaun Watson,

1506
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 5: so it's a mystery there. But how many games are

1507
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 5: you projecting Davis Mills the start? I have the projection

1508
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 5: at five and a half.

1509
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 4: Right now, I have five point seven, which is really

1510
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 4: just the season seventeen divided by three because I have

1511
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 4: no idea who is going to be either this is

1512
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 4: this is how I project games played because the games

1513
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 4: player are really tough to project anyway.

1514
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: But right now, yeah, I just think it's a toss up.

1515
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 4: But I don't think that Tyrod Taylor, you know, if

1516
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: Watson's out, can necessarily hold the job all year. I

1517
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: don't think there's the in I don't think there's the incentive.

1518
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 4: So I think only you have to be like a

1519
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 4: borderline playoff team.

1520
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: You have to be, you know, in the hunt for to.

1521
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 4: Make any sense of taiwad tear with the job for

1522
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 4: the entire season, and Texas have.

1523
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, the lowest win total by that.

1524
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 4: Just just because of that, I think Davis Mills probably

1525
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 4: more we to start, you know, a third, more than

1526
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 4: a third of the games than he isn't. So yeah,

1527
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,919
Speaker 4: going going five point seven. Going over with that, Let's

1528
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 4: go to the Colts. Carson Wentz is the new Philip

1529
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 4: Rivers apparently, you know, we're just going to kind of

1530
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 4: take quarterbacks from other teams and hope they don't throw

1531
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 4: as many interceptions when they come to the Colts.

1532
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: I mean, is Wentzon upgrade on Rivers? You know?

1533
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 4: I think because like Wentz was really bad, Lash and

1534
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 4: I think we argue about this on the Pot a

1535
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 4: bunch because I just I once I saw him play,

1536
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 4: like the first five or six weeks, I was like,

1537
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 4: I just don't trust this guy anymore. I don't know

1538
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 4: what happened to him, but that a lot of that was,

1539
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 4: you know, the Philly offense. What are your thoughts on

1540
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 4: Wentz versus Rivers? Is just how it affects this offense

1541
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 4: as a whole.

1542
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 5: I mean, Wentz has the higher floor and lower ceiling.

1543
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 5: I think, so it's it's worth the gamble. And you

1544
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 5: know he took a league high fifty one sacks last year. Yes,

1545
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 5: that was a big part of it was the offensive line.

1546
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 5: But you know he held onto the ball too long

1547
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 5: two point nine to one seconds according next Stats, so

1548
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 5: he can take some responsibility for that. But you know

1549
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 5: he's gonna playing behind a much better offensive line, so

1550
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 5: he'll be able to get away with that a little

1551
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 5: bit more here. So I think he's in a situation where,

1552
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 5: you know, if you want to bet on him making

1553
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 5: a comeback under Frank Reich, go ahead and target him.

1554
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 5: I think he he he elevates the ceiling of a

1555
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 5: guy like t Y Hilton in this offense because he's

1556
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 5: more willing to be aggressive and throw deep. But yeah,

1557
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 5: I think his ADP is about right. I could go

1558
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 5: either way with him, but I think the talent around him,

1559
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 5: especially the offensive line, sets him up for successes here

1560
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 5: or at least a bounce back season.

1561
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: You know he's going to his quarterback twenty one. I

1562
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: think that's about fair. Uh, the only guy.

1563
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I think if you're it depends if you're

1564
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 4: in a season one week obviously you have to take

1565
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 4: him because he's he's guarant you know he's gonna start

1566
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: week one where some guys, I mean, you know, justin

1567
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 4: fields we don't know about, you know.

1568
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, guys like that. We just don't know what's

1569
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,799
Speaker 1: gonna happen with them. But I would take Zach.

1570
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 4: Wilson over Wentz like that. I'm I'm fully and the

1571
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson wagon. Yeah, you can make. In basketball, I

1572
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 4: think it is when you really have to knock Wench

1573
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 4: down because there is a possibility he just plays himself

1574
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 4: or plays you right out of it.

1575
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: Every week. He could start and be bad like he

1576
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: was last year and still like hurt you. So I

1577
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: think in bestball, I don't think.

1578
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 4: He deserves being ranked ahead of guys like Lance and

1579
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 4: Fields and definitely and Zach Wilson obviously, and even you

1580
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 4: know the Taysom Hill situation. Like I think the guys

1581
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 4: with the upside that could give you, like quarterback top

1582
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 4: five weeks if they start, should be.

1583
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: Drafted over him in Best Ball.

1584
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 4: But in season long, you just you just need a

1585
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 4: guy that's gonna start, you know, from week one on,

1586
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 4: and then when he's bench you can just or if

1587
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 4: he plays bad, you can just drop him.

1588
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: So that's where I think that's.

1589
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 4: Why he's in that you know, top twenty border line,

1590
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 4: but he goes down a couple of pegs otherwise. I

1591
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 4: mean this offense, Michael Pittman, well, Jonathan Taylor, he's locked in.

1592
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 4: We don't have to talk much about him. He's a

1593
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 4: he's a top you know, top ten running back. Definitely's

1594
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 4: RB six right now. But I think Pittman is the

1595
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 4: interesting guy here, going wider receiver forty five to Hilton's

1596
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 4: forty nine at Paris, Campbell's seventy seven looks like the

1597
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 4: value to me. I think Hilton's on the decline, but

1598
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 4: I think Pittman wide receiver forty five year one year

1599
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 4: two leap. He's the guy I think gives you the

1600
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 4: most chance of every week's starter over Hilton.

1601
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: But I do think Campbell the best value at seventy seven.

1602
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1603
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember you were high on Pittman last year,

1604
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 5: so you gotta stick with him. I do think he

1605
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 5: could have a year two breakout, so don't sleep on him.

1606
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 5: But I love Paris Campbell. You know, he suffered his

1607
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 5: MCL and PCL injuries in Week one last year, so

1608
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 5: I think he should be one hundred percent heading in

1609
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 5: to week one. I definitely think he offers upside at ADP.

1610
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 5: I think he has wide receiver three flex value. I'm

1611
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 5: a big believer in Campbell, who knows how this is

1612
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 5: going to shake out. So I think in the situation,

1613
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 5: you take the cheaper guy. But like you said, you know, Hilton,

1614
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 5: I'm a little bit down on him, but I do

1615
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 5: think that Wentz. You know, his ability to push the

1616
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 5: ball deep, I think that helps him. But I got

1617
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 5: like Campbell, I think you know, it's hard to pass

1618
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 5: him up where he is if you think he's gonna

1619
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 5: be healthy entering the season.

1620
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then not much going on at tight end Doyle.

1621
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: I think surprised people. Wenz does like to throw to

1622
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: tight end, but then we have like headlines that he

1623
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: made use as a blocker more so, I mean that's

1624
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: just to stay away. Let's go to the prop for Indy.

1625
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 5: So Carson Wentz total passing touchdown this year, I have

1626
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 5: it at twenty five and a half.

1627
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: I'll go over. I have a couple of ticks higher.

1628
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 4: I think kind of banking on the fact that I

1629
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 4: don't think he'll I think he'll start no matter what.

1630
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 4: I do have faith in Frank Reich, and you know,

1631
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of volatility with that. But

1632
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 4: I am going to go over. I think Pittman breaks out,

1633
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 4: I think Campbell. You know, you can't project them to

1634
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 4: play with one game. You know, it's essentially what been

1635
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot of upside with this

1636
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 4: Colt's offense. And you know, the league is also just

1637
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 4: trending toward more and more touchdowns through here every year

1638
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 4: it seems to be. So I feel fairly confident with

1639
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: that over, But I mean, how many interceptions come with

1640
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 4: that that I can't tell you. So I'm still not

1641
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 4: sighted about Wentz and and he's more of a redraft

1642
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 4: guy than the best ball guy. For me, Let's go

1643
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 4: to Jacksonville. Travis Attn gets drafted. We heard about this

1644
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 4: whole You know there's gonna be a committee here. We

1645
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 4: have Carlos Hide. Now they say we're gonna use all three.

1646
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on his backfield?

1647
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean where? What?

1648
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 4: What if James Robinson? Now you know he was one

1649
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 4: of the best backs in the league, and now it's

1650
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 4: he's going as the RB twenty two, so people haven't

1651
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 4: completely bought out. But you have at ten at twenty eight, uh,

1652
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 4: and then Hide at seventy seven. I'm worried about Robinson

1653
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 4: and at TN ETN even at that ADP just because

1654
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 4: I mean it's Gonnat might just be the third down back.

1655
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 4: So it's like, I don't know RB twenty eight. Wait,

1656
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 4: what do you think?

1657
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sure you're concerned. I was so disappointed when

1658
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 5: the Jaggars took at N because he you know, that

1659
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 5: hurts his value. And James Robinson yea, Like you mentioned

1660
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 5: Carlos Hides there. This is gonna be a night murder project.

1661
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 5: So I'm just staying away. You know, Irl Myers potentially

1662
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 5: making ETNA wide receiver like his h back role that

1663
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 5: we saw, you know, guys like Percy Harvin, Curtis, Samuel Play.

1664
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 5: Does he know that they already have laviska channel who

1665
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 5: would probably fit that perfectly. Yes, So this is just

1666
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 5: it's a shame that they're doing this, and then we

1667
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 5: got Tim Tebow potentially doing the Taysom Hell role. This

1668
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 5: is just a nightmare. It's a shame because there's so

1669
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 5: much talent in this roster, but we really don't know

1670
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 5: how Urban Meer is gonna, you know, set this up.

1671
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 5: So I'm shying away from them on their ADP. They're

1672
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 5: they're both a bit rich at ADP, and you know,

1673
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 5: I'm staying far far away right now.

1674
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 4: So Chanel's going at wide receiver forty eight, Marv Jones

1675
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 4: at fifty three, DJ Chark at thirty one thirty. Excuse me,

1676
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 4: I you like the values in Danall and Jones?

1677
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 3: Really?

1678
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you bring Jones in, I don't think you know,

1679
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 4: he's a guy that's just gonna kind of completely be

1680
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 4: out targeted by Shark every week. And I think Shark

1681
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 4: he had that he had a bad year, then he

1682
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 4: had a good year, and then he had a year,

1683
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 4: he couldn't stay healthy.

1684
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: But when when you go in and you bring in

1685
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: like Marvin Jones, which you didn't really have.

1686
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 4: To do, and then you you talk about making et

1687
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 4: n y receiver. I'm just worried that Chark isn't that

1688
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 4: true number one that meyer Meyer wants, Like, I don't.

1689
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he's He's a.

1690
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 4: Path regime kind of guy, and I just don't know

1691
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 4: that he's worth that that top thirty eightp.

1692
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree completely, like he's obviously the sexy pick here,

1693
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 5: but wide receiver thirty oh man, It's it's hard to

1694
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 5: trust anybody that high in this offense. So yeah, well,

1695
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not excited over Marvin Jones. You can

1696
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 5: get him much later and who knows how this is

1697
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 5: going to shake out. But I think O the three,

1698
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 5: I think Leaviska Chanal. Yeah, for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

1699
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 5: I think he's the guy to a target here. I

1700
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 5: think he could fit really well into this Urban Myers scheme.

1701
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean there might there might not be

1702
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 4: much a tight end. So that's one good thing. Trevor

1703
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 4: Lawrence going just outside the top twelve at quarterback. What

1704
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 4: I mean I think that's fair, you know, I think

1705
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 4: he has him upside, but still like Wilson is a

1706
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 4: much better value.

1707
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: But what's our jags prop?

1708
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 5: Our jugs prop? Is Travis at and how many receptions

1709
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 5: will he have this year? I have it at forty

1710
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 5: five and a half.

1711
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll go under. I'm right there in line though.

1712
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 4: I have it at forty three, so I, you know,

1713
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 4: tweak one or two things, and he easily is right

1714
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 4: at that number.

1715
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: I think that's what we should expect in.

1716
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 4: Your one about about three catches per game, maybe a

1717
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 4: little little less, just because there's a lot of guys

1718
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 4: that could emerge. We really haven't seen this offense. We

1719
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 4: don't know how run heavy it's going to be. The

1720
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 4: only thing we really know is he's probably going to

1721
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 4: be the number one pass down back, because that's what

1722
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 4: that's what Meyer has said.

1723
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: So I have I have ettn at.

1724
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 4: You know, he's getting like just like around half of

1725
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 4: the running back routes, and then Hide and Robinson are

1726
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 4: splitting the other half. So not not exactly like Robinson

1727
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 4: getting more than Hide actually obviously, but you know that's

1728
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: that's kind of how I have it. All Right, let's

1729
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 4: go through the alo. Forgot about the tighten the most

1730
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 4: exciting one of the more exciting team. Yeah, the team

1731
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 4: I'm rapping on the throwback there?

1732
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did that? Okay? Titans? I mean I don't

1733
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: know whether to be where we are excited. I mean,

1734
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: on one hand, you have Julio Jones and AJ Brown,

1735
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,520
Speaker 1: you have Tannehill, you can't do anything but score touchdowns.

1736
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 4: You have Dereck Henry, who's a monster. But you lost

1737
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 4: Arthur Smith. So let me sit a guy. But you

1738
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 4: lost Arthur Smith. He's the guy that turned down turn around.

1739
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: Excuse me. Tannahill's career.

1740
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 4: You know, Tannehill fifty five touchdowns and twenty six starts

1741
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 4: over the past two seasons under Smith, he's gone. Tight

1742
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 4: end is gone. So that does that just help Brown

1743
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 4: and Jones? Does it make it tougher?

1744
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: Just make tougher for tanneho to function.

1745
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 4: Without without John who there is is ferks are just

1746
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 4: kind of gonna step in, Like what should I think

1747
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 4: of the Titans?

1748
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 5: Well, mister oilers man, you tell me, But I feel like,

1749
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 5: don't we have this discussion in season every year? Like

1750
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 5: we try to project you know, Tannehill, Henry, the receipt,

1751
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 5: like you know, AJ Brown, and we can never have

1752
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 5: their projections high enough. They just always exceed expectations and

1753
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 5: we always say we just need to boost the like

1754
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 5: their team total when it comes to our projection model,

1755
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 5: like they always overachieved. So just I'm always careful now

1756
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 5: when I'm projecting the Titans to not like underrate them

1757
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 5: a little bit so you know, when they get Julio Jones.

1758
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 5: I'm very bullsh on this offense. I think Ryan Tannehill

1759
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 5: has proven that he is not regressing towards any sort

1760
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 5: of mean I'm still projecting him, you know, to rush

1761
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 5: for a touchdown seven point five percent of the time,

1762
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 5: which is just crazy when Derrick Henry's there. So I'm

1763
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 5: loving this offense. I think Todd Downing should keep it

1764
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 5: pretty similar to what we saw under Arthur Smith. So

1765
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 5: I think we'll see a lot of play action using

1766
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 5: Derrick Henry to set that up. I just love this

1767
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 5: and I think, you know, Julio Jones his addition, I

1768
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 5: think that kind of helps AJ Brown.

1769
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 3: I think a J.

1770
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 5: Brown, he doesn't need a ton of targets to put

1771
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 5: up value. We've seen that and his career so far,

1772
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 5: so I think khlu Jones will help draw some attention

1773
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 5: away from the defense. AJ Brown will put up big

1774
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 5: numbers and then, like you mentioned, like Anthony firks Are,

1775
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna take over the John new Smith roll.

1776
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 3: So I like him at ADP.

1777
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 5: I think this is an offense where they only have

1778
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 5: a few players you need to target, but those guys

1779
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 5: you could absolutely target. So I love this offense as

1780
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 5: a whole.

1781
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, I think Julio he's going

1782
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 4: around wide receiver fourteen thirteen fourteen. I think I'd rather

1783
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 4: get him as more of a mid range to low

1784
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 4: end wide receiver. Two, just because I think going on,

1785
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 4: you know, you see guys decline at this age. I

1786
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 4: think I still think he'll be a top twenty guy

1787
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 4: if he's healthy. But we did, you know, we did

1788
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 4: see him struggle with that Hamsing injury. He was on

1789
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 4: the injury report nine times, miss seven games. I think

1790
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 4: Brown's kind of locked in. I think whatever he loses

1791
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 4: from Julio taking away targets, he I think he gains

1792
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 4: right back in the fact that they lost some of

1793
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 4: the other guys. Downing was fifteenth and pass attempts. His

1794
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 4: one year as a coordinator. The Titans have been essentially

1795
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 4: bottom five, so they could actually throw a little bit more.

1796
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 4: So I still like Brown where he's going, you know,

1797
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 4: seventh eighth. I think, you know, guys still want to

1798
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 4: come up. I think he'll be the guy who's more

1799
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 4: productive at the end of this season. I think he's

1800
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 4: the guy more likely to stay healthy. Derrick Henry, I could,

1801
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 4: I could see you taking him as the RB one.

1802
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 4: He's the RB three, I would I could take him

1803
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 4: over McCaffrey when you consider durability and yeah, and that's

1804
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 4: at firkstre I you know, he's hard to peg. I

1805
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: don't think he'll be a consistent week two week guy.

1806
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 4: So I'm not like he's you know, he's a guy.

1807
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 4: I think he can stream here and there, but I'm

1808
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 4: not counting on him to even put up John New numbers,

1809
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 4: especially after they get Julio.

1810
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: I do like destitz Patrick is kind.

1811
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 4: Of I think he emerges as that, you know, number

1812
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 4: three guy for them, and with Julio's injury history, I

1813
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 4: think he's an intriguing, like best ball guy.

1814
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: But Dane Hill, yeah, well win quarterback one.

1815
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 4: I'm worried a little bit about Smith, but you're you

1816
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 4: still do have a ton of talent there.

1817
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: What's our prop for Tennessee?

1818
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 5: Our prop is Julio Jones receiving touchdowns. He's always been

1819
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 5: fun to project him the Falcons because you would always

1820
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 5: think he would score more touchdowns. So how are you

1821
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 5: projecting him this year? I have the overrunner at six

1822
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 5: and a half.

1823
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 4: I'm at six point seven, So that's I guess the

1824
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 4: Tannehill boost. You know, tanner Hill fifty five touchdowns in

1825
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 4: twenty six starts. That's three more than Matt Ryan in

1826
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 4: five more starts for Ryan. So tanner Hill's fifty five

1827
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 4: and twenty six starts over the last two years. Ryan

1828
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 4: through fifty two in thirty one starts. So you know,

1829
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 4: I hopefully the Smith loss doesn't affect him too much.

1830
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: Who I still worry about him in the red zone.

1831
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 4: That's I'm so intrigued to see hu we in the

1832
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 4: red zone because from twenty thirteen to seventeen, he was

1833
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 4: eleven of sixty eight touchdowns to red zone targets.

1834
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: That's like, you know, that's terrible.

1835
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 3: You're blaming him, not Matt Ryan on those.

1836
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not sure. I think I think it's

1837
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 4: not him per se. It's like he's the coverage. You know,

1838
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 4: they're just always focused on him. But then you know

1839
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 4: the last two years before last year he was ten

1840
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 4: for thirty two, so it improved, but then last year

1841
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 4: he's oh for eight. So, like you know, red zone

1842
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 4: touchdown percent is very volatile. I'm not really factoring that

1843
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 4: in a ton into the overall projections outside of you know,

1844
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 4: his touchdowns per route target and things like that, but

1845
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 4: per catch. But I just think it's a fascinating But yeah,

1846
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 4: I'm at six point seven. Do worry about him staying healthy,

1847
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 4: But you know, you have to factor in how well

1848
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 4: Tannehill has been playing. Let's go to AFC West Denver.

1849
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 4: Denver is an intriguing team, man. I mean, there's not

1850
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 4: many holes on his roster. They don't They may not

1851
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 4: have a center or a tackle, but they're the rest

1852
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 4: of you know, they have bowls and they have they

1853
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 4: have the rest of the like every spot for spot

1854
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 4: on their offense.

1855
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: And defense is breat so I mean quarterback, yeah, and

1856
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 1: and quarter That's what I mean. And quarterbacks. So it's

1857
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: like you have these three big holes on offense.

1858
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 4: Is it going to be a disaster or is it

1859
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 4: going to be like a surprising like ten and seven

1860
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 4: playoff team like it just because that affects how we

1861
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 4: project these guys, because it's like, this is a good team.

1862
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 4: Then you know these running backs, it's great for them,

1863
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 4: but the receivers are shaky.

1864
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: It's a bad team. And then then we look at

1865
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: the receivers.

1866
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 5: Even more, right, And so I mean, how much of

1867
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 5: a percent chance are you giving Aaron Rodgers being their

1868
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 5: quarterback like wiever or less at this point?

1869
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's in that range. It's it was higher

1870
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 4: I think a couple of months ago, but it's it's

1871
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 4: so hard to say. I'm just kind of going forward

1872
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 4: with what they have, yeah, in projections.

1873
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 5: So so yeah, right now I have Drew Locke projected

1874
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 5: for nine point five games started and Teddy Bridgewater at

1875
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 5: seven point five to count for all seventeen games. I've

1876
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 5: basically given up hope that Aaron Rodgers will be coming here.

1877
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 5: But I guess the interesting thing, and you know, when

1878
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 5: it comes to projections, is like which players do you

1879
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 5: think benefit from Drew Locke under center? And which players

1880
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 5: you think benefit from Teddy?

1881
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 4: No one benefits from anybody, because no, I mean like,

1882
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 4: I just don't think any of these guys are very good.

1883
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 4: I do think, all right, if Lock starts, I don't

1884
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 4: think the team wins as many games, so right, I

1885
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 4: think I think the receivers benefit because he'll turn them

1886
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 4: all over and thus they'll need to throw more, I think,

1887
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 4: and get like more garbage time field or comeback field production,

1888
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,799
Speaker 4: whereas I think Teddy is like your standard game manager.

1889
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 4: You don't plan on throwing the ball more than thirty

1890
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 4: times with him unless you have to type quarterback. But Locke,

1891
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 4: I think you kind of want to wet it rip

1892
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 4: and see what he's got, and you know so, But

1893
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 4: I think the defense will be good, So listen, I

1894
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 4: think you know, we have to talk about the running

1895
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 4: backs because they draft Davonte Williams.

1896
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: And actually, let's leave that for the prop. Let's talk.

1897
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 4: Let's talk to receivers, because what do you make of

1898
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 4: Sutton coming back going wide receiver thirty two? Judy entering

1899
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 4: year two could can he can make a weak but

1900
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 4: he had a pretty inefficient year. He's at thirty eight

1901
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 4: in terms of wide receiver ADP.

1902
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: Then he had Tim.

1903
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 4: Patrick was probably the best one last year. He's at

1904
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 4: ninety five uh and then kJ Hammler, who was promising

1905
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 4: last year, is down at one thirteen.

1906
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: What do you think of this receiving wide receiving corps.

1907
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 5: I think at ADP I would lean towards Jerry Judy.

1908
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 5: I'm just a big believer in Judy, and I think

1909
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 5: he'd be one of the guys that would benefit the

1910
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 5: most from Teddy Bridgewater playing the most games under center.

1911
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 5: You know, Teddy tends to be less aggressive and just

1912
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 5: hit the open receiver, which I think Jerry Judy is that.

1913
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 5: You know, he's a really good route runner. Drew Locke

1914
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 5: a ton of times last year just ignored Judy running

1915
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 5: wide open, which is pretty annoying. So I think, you know,

1916
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 5: Teddy will help boost his value. So that's why I'm

1917
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 5: monitoring that quarterback situation closely. Whereas Courtland Sutton, I think

1918
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 5: you mentioned it. You know, Drew Lock's more of the gunslinger,

1919
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 5: take deep shots. That's perfect for Courtland Sutton. They already

1920
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 5: have that chemistry. So he's a guy where if Drew

1921
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 5: Lock is announced as the Week one starter, I'll be

1922
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 5: a little bit more bullish on court and Sutton. But

1923
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 5: you know, right now it is ADP. He seems a

1924
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 5: bit rich because, like you said this, this offense is

1925
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 5: going to be set back by poor quarterback play. So

1926
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 5: unless they surprise us and do end up training for

1927
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, I'll probably be off most of them, especially

1928
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 5: a guy like Tim Patrick. Like you mentioned, a guy

1929
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 5: like that, He's gonna need one of these guys get

1930
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 5: hurt or in Aaron Rodgers to become fancy relevant.

1931
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 4: My opinion, Yeah, I mean, I think I think about

1932
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 4: it a little bit different. I'm just like I think

1933
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 4: sim Patrick could be enough real life of relevant to

1934
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 4: kind of mess up Sutton or Judy, because Suton, like

1935
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 4: Sutton was really good, he was kind of shaky and

1936
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 4: then he turned really good, but then he got hurt.

1937
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: But then in.

1938
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 4: Judy, it's like he was bad enough that like I

1939
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 4: still do worry about him, you know what I mean,

1940
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 4: Like even though he should take a year two leap,

1941
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 4: even though there's a possibility that Locke is not the quarterback,

1942
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 4: but Patrick, like, I just think he's a little better

1943
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 4: than we think. I don't think like that necessarily translates

1944
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 4: into like consistent fantasy value, but it may kind of

1945
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 4: like warp the target shares that we're projecting for Sutton

1946
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 4: and Judy. So I think in terms of value, I

1947
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 4: probably go like Patrick, even though I don't like It's

1948
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 4: like you have to be in a deep league. And

1949
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 4: then I think Judy's fine. I think Sutton has better upside,

1950
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 4: Like I. I think if they're both healthy, something's gonna

1951
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 4: outperform Judy like So, I don't know, it's I don't

1952
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 4: I don't love him. I just think they're all guys

1953
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 4: that you probably just want to take if they fall

1954
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 4: below ADP and not like you don't want to reach

1955
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 4: on any of of those guys. I think no offense,

1956
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 4: you know, tight end seven. I think that's about you know,

1957
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 4: where he's should be, you know, in that seven to

1958
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 4: nine range.

1959
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: But let's talk about the running backs, and let's do

1960
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: it through the through your prop.

1961
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, so hight prop for running back. It's it's pretty straightforward.

1962
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 5: Her is who's gonna score more Fantasy points in Week one?

1963
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 5: Gavonte Williams or Melvin Gordon. I think, just get straight

1964
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 5: to the point here.

1965
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Week one Gordon. But in the season it's almost a

1966
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: toss up.

1967
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 4: I think it's tough to project because we you know,

1968
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 4: I know, we both kind of start with like her

1969
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 4: game averages and kind of you know, project those out

1970
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 4: to you know, how many games you think they're gonna play.

1971
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 4: But I think I think Gordon, you know, gets the

1972
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 4: veteran like you know, week one start.

1973
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: I think he's still gonna be heavily involved.

1974
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 4: I think Williams starts in that windsy kind of you know,

1975
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 4: thirty to forty percent share, But Williams may very well

1976
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 4: be the more talented back even a year one. We

1977
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 4: know running backs don't take time to really aquimate this

1978
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 4: kind of what you see is what you get. So yeah,

1979
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 4: I think over the course of the year, I would

1980
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 4: worry about Gordon in like a best ball format because

1981
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 4: I think he, you know, has the potential to kind

1982
01:27:58,360 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 4: of decline as the year goes on.

1983
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that one.

1984
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: All right, it's got three more teams. Let's run through

1985
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: them pretty quick.

1986
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Chiefs, we know what we're getting with Mahomes,

1987
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 4: we know we're getting with Tyreek, Travis Kelsey. We don't

1988
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 4: even need to really talk about those guys. Clyde Edwards, Alayre.

1989
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 4: Do we like his adp around running back seventeen? Is

1990
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 4: that that about right?

1991
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 3: Two?

1992
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: High too low.

1993
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 5: I think I think he's a smash play there. You know,

1994
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 5: I was pretty high on him last year. He obviously disappointed,

1995
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 5: but all the ingredients are there for bounce back season.

1996
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 5: They beefed up the offensive line. You know, I don't

1997
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 5: consider Darrel Williams or Jerk McKinnon to be competition. So yeah,

1998
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,719
Speaker 5: I'm buying Alaira at seventeen right now.

1999
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, another guy that I'm sure you would agree to

2000
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 4: take over a JK.

2001
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 3: Dobbins.

2002
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 4: Not not because Dobbins is a bad player, but just

2003
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 4: because of the of the upside that we thought Edwards

2004
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 4: her had last year when he was going as the

2005
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 4: top you know, top eight back. So I like, I'm

2006
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:58,599
Speaker 4: with you on Edwards. Alaire mentioned Sammy Watkins is gone.

2007
01:28:58,680 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: That opens it up.

2008
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 4: So which is give us the prop because that's going

2009
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 4: to give us what we need to talk about with

2010
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 4: the Chiefs.

2011
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, this is a good one for you because

2012
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 5: I know we project, We like to project routes run

2013
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 5: for receivers and Nikol Harman is always a headache. So

2014
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 5: I have his projected routes run percentage for Week one?

2015
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 5: Are you taking over under sixty two and a half

2016
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 5: percent I'm.

2017
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 4: Taking under I'm projecting he's gonna be about a fifty

2018
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 4: to fifty guy. It just seems to me like if

2019
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 4: they wanted him to play a role differently than he's

2020
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 4: been playing, it would have happened by now, Like I

2021
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 4: get it in like year one, but then like years

2022
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 4: like remember last year, even when guys were hurt, it

2023
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 4: was like Hardman wouldn't always change that much unless like

2024
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 4: multiple guys got hurt. So I think he's kind of

2025
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 4: that guy that they want him in there to do

2026
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 4: different things and scared the defense and in motion and

2027
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 4: run out of the backfield.

2028
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 1: But I think I think Prinkle's gonna be the guy.

2029
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be the guy that inherits

2030
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 4: the role of Sammy Watkins. And so I have to

2031
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 4: kind of keep my Hardman projection similar to what we saw,

2032
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 4: you know, from him last year.

2033
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm in line with on that. And so you're

2034
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 5: still projecting DeMarcus Robinson. We're doing wins sprints seventy to

2035
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 5: seventy five percent of the time, right, Yeah, Yeah.

2036
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 4: I just think it's Listen, I'm not saying I would

2037
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 4: play it like that, but there's just different skills that

2038
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 4: go into that with these receivers that they're looking for

2039
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 4: in at offense, and it's working, so why would they

2040
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 4: change it?

2041
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 1: Is kind of the way I'm thinking of it.

2042
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 4: And I think, by the way, I think Pringle is

2043
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 4: probably a more complete receiver than Hardman, just you know,

2044
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 4: like like Hartman's just like fast. Pringle's better than Robinson too,

2045
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 4: So that's why I'm just like I'm factoring in like

2046
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 4: the factor of him kind of you know, messing this

2047
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,560
Speaker 4: all up. So yeah, I'm going conservative with Hardman. We

2048
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 4: got Okay, Raiders, Chargers. Let's finish this one up for

2049
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 4: AFC projections Pod Henry Ruggs. You know, he's entering year two.

2050
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 4: You got car coming off his best year. But let's

2051
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 4: start with Jacobs versus Kenyan Drake. I mean, Jacobs is

2052
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 4: falling down to the high teens and running back ADP,

2053
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 4: and I think a lot of that is because of

2054
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 4: the acquisition of Kenyan Drake. I really don't think Drake

2055
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 4: changes much of any I think Drake is just kind

2056
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 4: of the guy that's gonna take those hundred or so

2057
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 4: touches that had gone you know, Jayalen Richard and DeAndre

2058
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 4: Washington before him.

2059
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: Booker last year. That's essentially what Gruden said. So I

2060
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: love Jacobs at his adp any thoughts on him, Yeah.

2061
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 3: I'm with you there.

2062
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 5: He could be sneaky, and especially they're talking about potentially

2063
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 5: lining Drake up at wide receiver. That's that's good news

2064
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 5: if you're targeting Josh Jacobs, because you know, I think

2065
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 5: Drake could hinder his his passing volume. But we've never

2066
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 5: banked on that to begin with, So I'm fine taking

2067
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 5: him at the end of the RB two range. But

2068
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 5: you know, and Drake himself, I don't think he's a

2069
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 5: guy that I'm targeting necessarily at the end of drafts.

2070
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 5: I just I didn't get the signing to begin with,

2071
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 5: and this offensive line is gonna take a step back.

2072
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 5: They essentially blew it up in the offseason. So I'm

2073
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 5: kind of out on the Raider running backs to begin with.

2074
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 5: But if you're taking Jacobs at the end of the

2075
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 5: RB two tier, I can't blame you.

2076
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I think Jacob has like RB one upsick.

2077
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 4: I think he's ash in that same kind of edwards

2078
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 4: you wear, but like, this is the guy he's probably

2079
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 4: gonna get twenty touches either way. Like whether whoever's behind him,

2080
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 4: that's just how the Raiders operate. Like Jacob's gonna get

2081
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 4: twenty touches, probably eighteen on the ground and like two

2082
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 4: through the air, and then whoever's behind him. It just

2083
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 4: maybe one guy instead of like you know.

2084
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: It was two a lot of the times in the past.

2085
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: So I think Drake's a little rich for me at

2086
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 1: RB thirty five.

2087
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 4: But if he falls a little I wouldn't count him out.

2088
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 4: I still think he's one of the better running backs

2089
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 4: in the league. Like skill wise, I'm not like low

2090
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 4: on him, but I do agree. I think the situation

2091
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 4: obviously is not great because Jacobs is gonna get his

2092
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 4: twenty touches. So Jacobs is the guy for me. And

2093
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 4: then and then you know, Darren Wallard not much to

2094
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 4: say about him. He's one of the top tight ends

2095
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 4: after Kelsey's going tight end three.

2096
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 1: Do you do you think about taking him ahead of

2097
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: Kittle any at any point?

2098
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

2099
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: And he wehead of Andrews.

2100
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 5: I don't think about it. Just take Waller over kill yeah, okay,

2101
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 5: now then to it. I think especially you know, if

2102
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 5: Trey Lance takes over pretty early in the season, I

2103
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 5: think they're gonna be a little bit more run heavy.

2104
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 5: You know, Kittle has a ton of real life value,

2105
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 5: but when it comes to fantasy, I want Waller just

2106
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 5: all day. Like he's he's so consistent. He's what you

2107
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 5: want at tight end. So I just don't hesitate. Just

2108
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 5: take him tight end number two.

2109
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know what he really is. He's really

2110
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 4: their wide receiver one, and he used to be a

2111
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 4: wide receiver. He has like the wide receiver skills because

2112
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 4: you have Henry Ruggs, Willie Snead Hunter, Renfro, John Brown,

2113
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 4: Brian Edwards, they Jones. I mean, just give me a

2114
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 4: prop because I don't I don't know.

2115
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 5: Oh, I hate projecting this team because of those names

2116
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 5: that you just mentioned. But my prop is Henry Ruggs

2117
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 5: total receptions this year. I have it at forty six

2118
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 5: and a half.

2119
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 4: I have it at forty six, so I'm right there.

2120
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 4: I guess I'll go under. But here he's another guy.

2121
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 4: I think I was high on him. He's extremely disappointed.

2122
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit worried, But I at the same time,

2123
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 4: don't factor out a year or two week from this guy.

2124
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 4: He's still immntally talented. Still, you know, managed to get

2125
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 4: you know, get taken ahead of Judy and Lamb. You know,

2126
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 4: even if it wasn't necessarily warrants did so you know,

2127
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 4: I'd say, if you're waning one way or the other,

2128
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 4: go go with the over on him, like if if

2129
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 4: if as a as a draft pick, just because I

2130
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 4: think he like, out of any of those other guys

2131
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 4: I mentioned, they're not going to like, uh, have like

2132
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 4: this fantasy year changing season, and if they do, you're

2133
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 4: probably not gonna pick which one and then start him

2134
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 4: like you know, Nelson Aguar. Okay, great, he has a

2135
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 4: great season last year, career year, you know, resurgence, But like,

2136
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 4: were you starting this Nelson Aguar every week even if

2137
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 4: you had him?

2138
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 1: Probably not.

2139
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 4: So like Ruggs, I think will be that one guy

2140
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:34,759
Speaker 4: that you had you'd have the confidence to start.

2141
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: He's going up wide receiver fifty four. He's cheap.

2142
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Speaker 4: You can just chow set him on your bench here

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Speaker 4: if he starts out high or something.

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, Rugs is a guy for me. You're you're

2145
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 5: not buying into this Brian Edwards type again.

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Speaker 1: Nah, he's he's a big guy. He's big, He's not

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01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: he's not that fast. I mean every once in a while,

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Speaker 1: a guy like that ends up being like a DJ

2149
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Speaker 1: chart in year two. But I mean because you have

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Speaker 1: Rugs also primed for a weep.

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Speaker 4: I just and you have Waller there, and you have Drake.

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01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: I guess you he's just too far down up. I

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01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: mean he could be could be you cannot make the team.

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01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean he could be an act. You know what

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01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean?

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01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 3: Like this is right.

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01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's six guys there that have a shot.

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01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's That's not what I'm gonna do with

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01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 4: my with any type of draft capital.

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Speaker 3: This year.

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Speaker 1: He burns me, he burns me.

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01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 4: But last team's finished it up with the Chargers, Mike Williams.

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01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 4: You still got Keenan Allen there, You still got Austin

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01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 4: Eckler there. Justin Herbert entering year two, what what's his

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Speaker 4: ceiling at quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Right now? He's going as the twob seven.

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01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 4: So you got Mahomes, Alan Murray Jackson, Prescott Wilson, and

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Speaker 4: then Justin Herbert ahead of Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady and

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Speaker 4: Jaywen Hurts. Is that where you're kind of taking Herbert?

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Speaker 4: Or is he too high for you? Or do you

2171
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 4: are you buying into like the upside no, I think.

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01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 3: I'm buying it upside.

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01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 5: You do have to worry about the sophomore slump, you know,

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01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 5: just regressing to the mean a bit, but he definitely

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01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 5: has the talent. I think the you know, Joe Lombardi

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Speaker 5: is gonna take this offense to new heights. I think

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Speaker 5: he's gonna get the most out of Austin Eckler, Mike Williams.

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Speaker 5: So that's why I think I'll buy in on Justin

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Speaker 5: Herbert again this year and Jared Cook. He should be

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01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 5: a pretty good short term replacement for Hunter Henry.

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01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 5: So you know, I think he has all the pieces

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01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 5: in place, an improved offensive line. There's a lot to

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01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 5: like where you know, even if he does regress a

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01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 5: little bit, I think he has the talent to take

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01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 5: I mean it's tough to do this, but take over

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01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 5: like an Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady.

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01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, he still can run a little bit,

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01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 4: you know, I know he wasn't like running all over

2190
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 4: the place, but has a little bit of that. I

2191
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 4: think there's a lot to like in keenan Allen wide

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01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 4: receiver ten.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's pretty fair. But let's talk.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, let's talk Cooks and then we'll

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01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 4: finish up. Because Eck Whar is running back ten. I

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01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 4: think that's also pretty on point. Cook right now is

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01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 4: a Titan nineteen. Is there a little bit upside there?

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01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think there's some upside there. Look I said, I

2200
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 5: mean he's replacing Hunter Henry. He already knows the Joe

2201
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 5: Lombardi offense, the Sean Payton tree, so he's coming from

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01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 5: New Orleans.

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01:36:58,720 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 3: He should fit right in.

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01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 5: And you know, when he's healthy, you know you can

2205
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 5: play him if you're a deep enough league or best

2206
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 5: ball where you're taking tight ends out late.

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01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 3: He's a steal there.

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01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 5: And then you have Donald Parham backing him up, you know,

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Speaker 5: XFL legend who could be a nice, you know, injury

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01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 5: upside replacement if Cook were to go down. So I

2211
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 5: wouldn't overlook the charger tight ends. I think they will

2212
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 5: play a role in the offense this year.

2213
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 4: I think Cook has a legit Top twelve upside, especially

2214
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 4: since like you're tight end twelve and thirteen right now

2215
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 4: are Henry and Smith, who Yeah, they have upside too.

2216
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 4: They could be focal points at that offense, but they

2217
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 4: could also kind of split targets, whereas you know, Cook

2218
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 4: could be like a legit, you know, you know tight,

2219
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 4: you know, the only guy that's really.

2220
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: Be in the field on pass routes for the for

2221
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: the Chargers.

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01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 4: So I think he's going way too low in wh's

2223
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 4: finished up with Mike Williams because I think he's an

2224
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 4: interesting guy. So give let's let's let's talk about the

2225
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 4: prop for Mike Williams.

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01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Joe Lombardi said that he he intends to

2227
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 5: be the X receiver in his offense, which is the

2228
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 5: same role that Michael Thomas plays. So people are getting

2229
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 5: all excited about Michaeilliams. Are you buying the hype? Do

2230
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 5: you think he'll have a year five breakout? I have

2231
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 5: his receiving yards at eight hundred and a half. Are

2232
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 5: you going over under that?

2233
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm about one hundred over. I do think he

2234
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 4: has a breakaway. Listen, this guy has been he broke

2235
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 4: out already. I mean, let's let's give him some credit.

2236
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,640
Speaker 4: You know, he had that horrible year one, but.

2237
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: But he you know, he kind of righted the ship.

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01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 4: I mean, just looking at his numbers, you know, year

2239
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 4: two he gets ten touchdowns, forty three catches. The next

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Speaker 4: year he only gets two touchdowns when he goes over

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01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 4: a thousand yards on forty nine catches. And then last year,

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01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 4: you know, he it's a little bit of a slow year,

2243
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 4: but he's been between him, he's been around about three

2244
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 4: catches and in between fifty in sixty five yards for

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01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:48,679
Speaker 4: the last couple of years. I think you see him

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01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 4: on the higher end of that range, you know, more

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01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 4: forward to three and a half mark, and so I mean,

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01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 4: what do you what do you think of the like

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01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 4: who's who's the third guy here? Like is it Johnson?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Geton? I think Johnson may may jump Guitton

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01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: at some point.

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01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I love Tyron Johnson. Like I wrote up

2253
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 5: that prop of the night or whatever with him last year,

2254
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 5: Like I love him. I think he has potential. But yeah,

2255
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 5: I mean it's it's a three way tie right now

2256
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 5: with Geyton, Palmer and Johnson. I would just avoid it completely,

2257
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 5: but I show your love for Mike Williams. And when

2258
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 5: I say breakout, like like you said, like when you

2259
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 5: look at his career stats, he's kind of like my

2260
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 5: golf game where nothing lined up. The same year he

2261
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 5: had the one year of ten touchdowns and one year

2262
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 5: with over a thousand yards and two touchdowns. I'm with

2263
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 5: you there. I think he's going to break out where

2264
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 5: he has both you know, potentially over a thousand thousand

2265
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 5: yards and double digit touchdowns this year.

2266
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 3: So I'm buying in on Mike Williams breakout this year.

2267
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's a that's the guy you like, you know,

2268
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,719
Speaker 4: wide receiver fifty two, Like that's the guy you target.

2269
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 4: And you say, okay, like this guy could legit give

2270
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 4: me like a top thirty because like, remember it's all

2271
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 4: correlated to a quarterback. We're projecting a top seven season

2272
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,719
Speaker 4: for Herbert and that's not a stretch. And and and

2273
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 4: by the way, Chargers defense, I I think you're going

2274
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 4: to see a drop Like I think this is going

2275
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 4: to be a shootout team all year. So yeah, I'm

2276
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 4: bullish on Williams.

2277
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

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01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 4: I think Johnson is going to be the guys that

2279
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 4: number three eventually. So yeah, if you're taking a light

2280
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 4: round fire. But Cook is another guy who if he's

2281
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 4: not completely washed, because he kind of sometimes I thought

2282
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 4: he was washed, but it might have just been that

2283
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 4: weird Saints offense like Cook and pretty much do what

2284
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 4: he does tight ends once they get old.

2285
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 1: They don't.

2286
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 4: They don't like just drop off a cliff as much

2287
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 4: as you think. It's kind of a gradual decline. So

2288
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 4: I think cook is I got a target, But yeah,

2289
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 4: Williams at fifty two is a steal. Dad is going

2290
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 4: to wrap it up that wash Man. How do you

2291
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:37,639
Speaker 4: feeling that was a good first pod?

2292
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? I had fun.

2293
01:40:39,439 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 5: I'm like so excited right now we finally get to

2294
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 5: talk about it. I feel like the Fantasy season starts

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01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 5: today as we.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah there, and it does. For us.

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Speaker 4: For the Action Network NFL pod, the Fantasy Flex, we

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Speaker 4: are going to bring you guys two episodes per week,

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Speaker 4: So stay tuned for the NFC Projections episode which.

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Speaker 1: Will drop early in next week.

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Speaker 1: Back for the twenty twenty one NFL season.

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Speaker 4: Until next time, let's get this money.

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