1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Jonathan Signs is the president of Texas Values and he 4 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: joins us. Now a law going into effect yesterday related 5 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: to the Ten Commandments in schools. What I want to 6 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: do is go very slow, so we explain that everyone 7 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: understands what is required versus what is allowed, who the 8 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: exemptions are, and more. 9 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: Jonathan siins, welcome to the program. 10 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Great to be with you, Michael. 11 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: So the law that passed relates to I heard your interview. 12 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: I rarely get to listen to our morning news, but 13 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: I did this morning. Was able to this morning, and 14 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: I thought it was fantastic and I. 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Learned a lot. 16 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: But I still had some questions, and I'd like to 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: start over as if no one heard that interview and 18 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: go through that because I noticed there were about twelve 19 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: hundred school districts and it only applies to eleven. 20 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Let's start with what the law says. 21 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and yeah, you're right. 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: There might have been a few people that were not 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: awake at six twenty in the morning, but some of 24 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: us were. There's a new state law in the state 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: of Texas that went into effect yesterday, September first. Now, 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: it's very common that new state laws go into effect 27 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 4: on September first during a legislative year, which is an 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: odd number year life this year twenty twenty five, and 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: so that's the significance of that date. So it's not 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: anything particular about this law. Just about every state law 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: goes into effect September first, unless it has over a 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: two thirds vote. Now, this bill did with bipartisan support. 33 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: We did have some Democrats along with the Republicans that 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: supported this law. 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: The bill numbers Senate Bill ten. 36 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 4: And if people have more information, Ten Commandments, Texas dot 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 4: Com is the website we have set up with a 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 4: lot of good information. 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: But it's real simple. 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 4: Every classroom in the state of Texas public school, classroom 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: K through twelve is required to display the Ten Commandments. Now, 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: it's not any version, it's not any wording. The law 43 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: itself has specific wording for the Ten Commandments. And the 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 4: significance of that, Michael, is this is the language of 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 4: the Ten Commandments monument that's on the Texas Capitol Grounds 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: on the northwest side, just outside of the Texas Capital 47 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: in Austin and our capital city. And that's significant because 48 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: that language on those ten Commands, on that Ten Commandments 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: monument was upheld by the US Supreme Court by a five. 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: To four vote. As a matter of fact, that case 51 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: was argued at the U. 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: S Supreme Court by Governor Greg Abbott, who at the 53 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 4: time was our two in general of the State of Texas. Now, 54 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: the size of it, it's required to be at least 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: sixteen inches by twenty inches, and it is required to 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: be displayed in a conspicuous place right. In other words, 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: they can't cover it up, they can't hide it in 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: a corner so no one can see it. The goal 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: is for it to be displayed so it's visible. Now, 60 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 4: the law does not require kids to read. It doesn't 61 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 4: require kids to acknowledge it. You don't have to walk 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 4: into the classroom and check mark that you noticed it 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: that day. But it is required for it to be displayed. 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: And it's in every public school classroom. It's not you know, 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: in the gym somewhere or one place. It's in every classroom. Michael, 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: We think that could be close to three hundred thousand 67 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: classrooms throughout the state of Texas twelve hundred school districts. 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: There are a lot of school campuses, and so that's 69 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: what the law requires. And it's about the historical relevance 70 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: and the connection of the Ten Commandments from the Old 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: Testament of the Bible, and very common when you think 72 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: about references to law and government and culture in American history. 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: That's long been the case. As a matter of fact, 74 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: the US Supreme Court has a depiction of the Ten 75 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: Commandments on its capital, on its building, and so we 76 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: believe if it's good enough for the Supreme Court, it 77 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: should be good enough for the classroom. 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's an interesting question the separation of church and state, 79 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: to the extent that this is a religious issue, and 80 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: you know, you think of Jefferson's letter to the Baptist 81 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: at Danbury and the separation of church and state, and 82 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: this is something most people do not understand. Was a 83 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: separation because the Anglican Church had been the King's church 84 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: when they wouldn't honor his divorce, and so he simply 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: made himself the head. 86 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 1: Of the church. 87 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: The idea was to keep the state out of the 88 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: church and never the church out of the state, and 89 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: our founders were clear about that, including Jefferson's letter, but 90 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: including all of the religious references on documents on currency, 91 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: on buildings, as you noted much later, of course, the 92 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: Supreme Court building and the Ten Commandments. But it's important 93 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: to understand the point was to keep the state out 94 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 2: of the church, not the church out of the state. 95 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's right. 96 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 4: And look, here's also something that's important when you have 97 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: a document that has historical relevance. And the Supreme Court 98 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: has said that. In the case of Van Orden versus Perry, 99 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: which was the case that went up to the US 100 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: Supreme Court that related to the Ten Commandments monument on 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: our Texas Capitol grounds that was upheld at the US 102 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: Supreme Court in two thousand and five, the Court was 103 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: very clear about this, and they've said it numerous times 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: that when you have a document that's historically relevant, even 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: if it has some connection to religion, the government can't 106 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: tear it down, they can't attack it, they can't use 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: that as their reason for not allowing it because it's 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: religious in nature, and it can't be sort. 109 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: Of a heckler's veto either. Right. 110 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 4: You can't have people coming in and saying, oh, but 111 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: that document in that display and symbol has something for 112 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: religious Because of that reason, we want the government to 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 4: take it down, and we want to force the government 114 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: to take it down. The US Free Court said that 115 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: is hostility to religion. To your point, that's not what 116 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 4: Thomas Jefferson and vision. That's not what the founders and vision. 117 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: But for decades, Michael, that's what the ACOU has gotten 118 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: away with in other groups. Right, And there's no coincidence 119 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: that New York lawyers from the acl you have been 120 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 4: the ones that have filed the lawsuit against the Texas 121 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 4: tan Commandments law. But there's established precedent here, and there's 122 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: no doubt that there's a historical connection in relevance. I mean, 123 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: you have David Barton, numerous scholars, people that testified in 124 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: the court hearing in San Antonio on this bill that 125 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 4: I was at a couple of weeks ago, made it 126 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 4: clear there's a historical connection. Just because there's also something 127 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 4: religious in nature is not a valid reason for the 128 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 4: courts to try to take that down or to not 129 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: allow this to be displayed in publicol classrooms when it's 130 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: historically relevant. And the fact that some people don't realize 131 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: that is even more reason why it should be displayed 132 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: so people are aware. 133 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 3: Of this history. 134 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: That's absolutely true, Jonathan signs with Texas Values. 135 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: It's important to understand that the freedom of expression of religion, 136 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: and that freedom from the parishioner, from the Christian is 137 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: as important as they perceived. But I don't recognize freedom 138 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: to avoid being offended. We're not requiring anyone to worship, 139 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: We're not requiring anyone to bend the need, we're not 140 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: requiring anyone to bow. 141 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: To idolatry or wear religious symbols. 142 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: What is being asked is to stop the expression of it. 143 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: It's also important, and you made this point I think 144 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: this morning, that you cannot take Christian teachings out of 145 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: world literature, out of thought, out of politics. So many 146 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: of the first places we see those concepts offered were 147 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: offered in the Bible, and so you cannot simply rip 148 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: those out because us your Jewish, Muslim, uh, some other 149 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: group agnostic, atheist, and you don't like Christian Satanists, and 150 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: and and then finally we've. 151 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: Got the pure power play. You've got. 152 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people who are non Christian 153 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: of other organized religions who simply want to say you can't, well, no, 154 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: that's not going to be tolerated. 155 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: State state tuned Jonathan Science, Texas as an old college. 156 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: Michael Perry, Kai. 157 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan Science. 158 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: It's the president of Texas Values. One of eight hundred 159 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: and thirty laws that went into effect this UH legislative 160 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: session Biennial Legislatives legislative session. As we've mentioned, that's every 161 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: two years, our legislature meets. Currently in a special session. 162 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: The second Governor has called at the end of the session. 163 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: One of the laws that passed related to the Ten 164 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: Commandments in the classroom. Let's leave the exempted schools out 165 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: for a moment. Jonathan reading at Tencommandments dot com, it 166 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 2: says every public school classroom will be required to display 167 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: a Ten Commandments poster or framed copy, and each school 168 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: district must accept conforming posters or framed copies that are 169 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: privately donated, so it is required that they post these. 170 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: But there are individuals. 171 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: I know, there's a woman, the Great Rape, Great right, 172 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: the good Therapists is what always the I can't remember 173 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: the name of it. They're different groups know in Houston, 174 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: in the Houston area that are donating these, Jonathan, you 175 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: may know of others, but they are required to post 176 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: the Ten Commandments. 177 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: I was not aware of that. I thought they were 178 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: allowed to but speak to that if you would. 179 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's absolutely right. 180 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: And we're one of the organizations that have been doing 181 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: some donating as well. We donated six thousand posters to 182 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: conra ISD And I want to make sure everyone's clear. 183 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 4: Other than the eleven school districts, which in the you're 184 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: listening audience, I'm not sure how far the reaches, but 185 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: greater Houston area, it's Houston, ID and SI fare and 186 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 4: then like Travis and the Austin area north side in 187 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: San Antonio, Austin. 188 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: ID and a few others. 189 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: So the other eleven hundred and eighty nine school districts 190 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: in the state of Texes are required to follow this law. Now, 191 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 4: the law does not require the school districts to purchase 192 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 4: the posters. Now they're only a dollar each, and we've 193 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: got a great website set up. We've got a vendor 194 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: that a lot of great groups like David Barton and 195 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: others are using. 196 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: Rick Green. 197 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: Our website is ten Commandments Texas dot com. And when 198 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 4: you go to that website, you can pick a certain 199 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: school district. You can purchase the Ten Commandments posters for 200 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: a dollar each, and it helps us figure out who's 201 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 4: helping wear. But the idea is to have them donated 202 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 4: to the school. Now, school districts could choose on their 203 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: own to purchase them. We just didn't want the law 204 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: situated in a way that required them to purchase to 205 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: use tax dollars and for you know whatever, you know 206 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: arguments people might make about that. This just makes it 207 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 4: easier and there are a lot of people that want 208 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: to do that. There are thousands of them that have 209 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: already been posts purchased in it throughout the state. This 210 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: is an effort that's been going on for several months. 211 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 4: A lot of school districts have already purchased or had 212 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: their posters donated. They're getting ready to put them up. 213 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 4: But that's how the law works, and that's how it's 214 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: designed to work, is have people donate them, bring them 215 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 4: to the school district, the superintendent, the administration building, and 216 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: if they're conforming to the law. 217 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: Which the website we have makes it really easy. 218 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: If you order from the same vendor that we're using, 219 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: a lot of people are that's what you get a 220 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: dollar each. So ten Commandments Texas dot Com is the 221 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 4: website and a lot of people are excited about it 222 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: because they recognize the value of having the Ten Commandments displayed. Again, 223 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 4: students are required to read it, they're not required to 224 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 4: believe it. They're not even required to acknowledge that they 225 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: saw it in the classroom. But Michael, it's not all 226 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: that different than what we have in curriculum. As part 227 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: of our curriculum, students are required to learn about the 228 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: connection of the Ten Commandments to America's law and founding 229 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: in our government and culture. The Supreme Court has said 230 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: that that's permissible. And as you acknowledge right that, you know, 231 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: whether people believe one religion or other, this is primarily 232 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: about the historical connection. 233 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: Whether you know, when there. 234 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: Are people of whether they're that are not Jewish or 235 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: not Christian, that are from different other faith that recognize 236 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 4: the significance of the Ten Commandments and the impact it's 237 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: had on a lot of law and policy in government, so. 238 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: It should be no different here in Texas well. 239 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: I think that's that's absolutely right. You know, I go 240 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: back to the Roy Moore case that launched Roy Moore 241 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: to to national fame and notoriety. This is an issue 242 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: that doesn't go away the core religious values of the 243 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: founders of this country are still the core religious values 244 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: of a majority of believers. And these are beyond the 245 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: Christian faith. These are good rules to live by, Jonathan 246 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: Science Texas values. 247 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, my man. 248 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: Oh oh, Jonathan, before you appreciate it. But hold on, 249 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: I forgot to ask you. There the schools that are 250 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: exempted from them from this, what is that about? 251 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and it's not I don't I'm not picking 252 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: on you for using the word exempt. 253 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: That's probably accurate. 254 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 4: But the relevance is there was a group of families 255 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: that I assume were recruited or got connections with the ACLU, 256 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 4: and they had their New York lawyers come in and 257 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 4: argue against the Texas Commandments law. They filed a lawsuit 258 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: against specific school districts. It doesn't have anything to do 259 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: with those school districts not liking it. Maybe some of 260 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: them don't, but they the school districts did not suit 261 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: to stop the law. 262 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: Being enforced or going into EVEC. 263 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: Some families did, some parents and so on that didn't 264 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: like it, and the ACOU doesn't like it as well. 265 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 4: And so there was a court ruling about two and 266 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: a half weeks ago by a judge in San Antonio, 267 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: who said, for now, until I see more evidence and 268 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 4: this trial moves along, I'm going to say that in 269 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: those particular school districts that the Ten Commandments law is 270 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: not to go into effect. But this happens all the time. 271 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: If you're not a party to that lawsuit, the rest 272 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 4: of the state has to follow this law. As of yesterday, 273 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 4: the Texas turn General Kin Paxton put out a letter 274 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: making that clear that all the other school districts are 275 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: required to follow this law. And it's not a to 276 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: your point, it's not a you know, maybe we think so. 277 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: The law says you have to display the poster of 278 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: the Ten Commandments. Now that's assuming that it's been donating 279 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 4: or one's been provided for them to hang up. And 280 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: so that's why we're doing a lot of work to 281 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: get the word out. 282 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 3: And I want to mention another thing too. 283 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: We've got an event coming up at the end of 284 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 4: September where David Barton, who knows this issue well, is 285 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: going to be talking about it, giving people more insight. 286 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: But in the meantime, if you're getting, you know, mixed 287 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: signals from your school district, or they're telling you something different, 288 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: whatever the case is, reach out to our organization. Our 289 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: friends at First Liberty Institute at Telly Shackelford are doing 290 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: the same thing. We're here to walk you through it 291 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: and give you that protection and for you to say, hey, 292 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: tell your school district the law requires this if you're 293 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 4: not one of those eleven. But again, the website ten 294 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: Commandments Texas dot com, we've got a lot of great information. 295 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: You know. 296 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: I feel the need to say this, having been through 297 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: a few of these over the years. I think marching 298 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: up to the school where you don't have children and 299 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: screaming you have to have the Ten Commandments on the 300 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: wall is going to be a lot less productive short 301 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: and long term for our cause than saying, hey, can 302 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: I help you fund these? Or can I go out 303 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: and raise the money to fund them? As you said, 304 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: it's a dollar apiece. It's not that much, you know, 305 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: one per classroom. But for those people who are going 306 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: to be screaming and hollering that the school district has 307 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: betrayed us, the law doesn't require them to do that. Well, 308 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: I guess it does require them to do it, but 309 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: it gives them the option of private donation. Why wouldn't 310 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: we do that? Why wouldn't we make it easy to comply? 311 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: Jonathan signs Texas Values. Thank you very much, my man, 312 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: God bless you a seat. 313 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: Well. 314 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: The man that Donald Trump refers to as fat Jerry 315 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: Jerry Nadler, who interestingly is the first gnome to ever 316 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: be elected to Congress. 317 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a fellow that wears his pants up just 318 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: above his nipples. Yeah, Jerry Nadler. 319 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: He was involved in the Trump impeachment, in fact, he 320 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: led it. He's a little fellow that wattles. He's seventy eight, 321 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: and he will not be running for re election next year. 322 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: What's that, Well, he won't be running You're right, he 323 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: won't be running anywhere anytime. 324 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: He would not be playing knock and Run, that is 325 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: for sure. 326 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: EHS the four hour system from Michael Arry Shoe and 327 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: other leading companies. He said, this. 328 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: Where you do what you do. 329 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Sit back. Let me tell you a quick story. It's amazing. 330 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: How recent the year two thousand is and how far 331 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: away in so many, so many dimensions. That was the 332 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: year of the big tech bubble. That was a year 333 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: of y two k. It was all going to come 334 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: to an end, and it didn't. That was the time 335 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: when kids in their with a backpack at a coffee 336 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: shop in Portland or San Francisco could register a name 337 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 2: of a major noun and create a platform and get 338 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: paid amounts of money that my dad could have never 339 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: imagined in the old fashioned show up early, stay late 340 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: at work, hard to do your job, be honest, don't steal, 341 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: don't do drugs, make the company money. It was a weird, weird, 342 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: weird time. Well, Americans love movies, I would argue we 343 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: loved movies more then than we do today per capita individually. 344 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: But that was a time when we were still in 345 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: the VCR stage, and so the watching of a movie 346 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: meant that you either either the network bought it, which 347 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: usually by that time it was so old, and then 348 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: you had commercials in there. Nobody wanted to watch a 349 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: movie that way, although I remember watching Trading Places that way. 350 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: I remember watching forty eight Hours that way. So you 351 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 2: wanted a movie on demand, so you'd go to the 352 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: local video store. We didn't have a Blockbuster where I 353 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: lived because we were out in the country. But a 354 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: girl I went to school with, Nancy Gray, her mom 355 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: rented out a little modular unit and there were a 356 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: surprisingly large number of movies for the size of this 357 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: modular unit. And we would go up there and it 358 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: was their initials. It was like kN N or whatever. 359 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: We'd go up there and we'd rent our movie, and 360 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: they were this was a small I mean small community. 361 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: This wasn't even a town. This was really more an 362 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: orange field community. And you'd rent your movie and you'd 363 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: bring it back and there were never any fees and 364 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: it was wonderful. Well, at about this time, so Blockbuster 365 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: was the dominant company in the industry by far. 366 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: Fact. 367 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: Ramon has always said over the years, if he ever 368 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: got fired from radio, he'd go to work for Blockbuster. 369 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: He loves movies and he always thought that would be cool. Well, 370 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: they shot Blockbuster out from under him in the year 371 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: two thousand. While all of that is going on, Read Hastings, 372 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: who will get back to in a moment and Mark 373 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: Randolph go to Blockbuster. They're dying, they're losing money, their 374 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: burn rate is out of control, and they have no 375 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: viable future. They see no way out of this. They 376 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: go to Blockbuster and offer to sell Netflix for fifty 377 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: million dollars. The Netflix concept at the time was not 378 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: in any way digital. They would mail you three, five, seven, 379 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: depend on your package. They would mail you a movie 380 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: in a CD and you would watch the movie and 381 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: they had this cool little wrapper paper that it was in. 382 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: I alos thought that was a Nia Sava And you 383 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: would turn your movie around and send it back prepaid postage, 384 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: and you would pay a membership a subscription per month 385 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: in order to do this, no late fees. That movie 386 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 2: could sit on your on your TV top for three months. 387 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 2: You didn't get any new movie, but you didn't get 388 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: billed extra either. The Netflix CEO, I'm sorry. The Blockbuster chairman, 389 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: John Antioco laughed Netflix out of his office famously, are 390 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: you kidding me? You people are a net on my behind? 391 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: Get out of here? And who would have thought how 392 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: fortunes would change? But in July of that year, at 393 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: about the same time, Blockbuster did do a deal with 394 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: the company you've probably never heard of. The chairman of 395 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: that company at the time called it the killer app 396 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: for the entertainment industry. Blockbuster's chairman, who laughed Netflix out 397 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: of his office, said this was the ultimate bricks, clicks 398 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: and flicks strategy. No chicks ramon and none of the 399 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: other stuff either. The chairman of Oracle no less than 400 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: Larry Ellison committed his private company in Cube Corp. To 401 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: provide the critical computer hardware and two million dollars in cash, 402 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: talking about how proud he was to be part of 403 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: this endeavor. So the company with whom that Blockbuster did this, 404 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: this Blockbuster deal that was so excited about, was a 405 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: company that had gravitated into broadband and they were trying 406 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: to get into They were trying to find ways to 407 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: monetize fiber optic, which they called broadband. Two years earlier, 408 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight, they acquired Portland General Electric, an 409 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: Oregon utility that had a budding fiber optic network for 410 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: phone and data traffic in the Pacific Northwest. So they're 411 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: starting to get broadband bannedwidth and they're starting to think, well, 412 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 2: we got to find things to put on this. We 413 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: want people to use our data by day for business 414 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 2: and work and by night to watch movies. Well who 415 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: better to do that with than Blockbuster. So they go 416 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 2: to Blockbuster in July and two thousand and sign a 417 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: deal with Blockbuster. Blockbuster will provide the movies, and then 418 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 2: the customers would have a TV set top box, so 419 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: they're getting their data same way that you later got 420 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 2: your data. You probably get it from someone else today. 421 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 2: But this was competing with everyone's internet and all the 422 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: dial up and the data providers. This company that teamed 423 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: up with Blockbuster is going to provide basically the back 424 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: end the technology, the infrastructure. 425 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: Blockbuster is going to provide the content. 426 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: Well, the infrastructure provider said they would go to the 427 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: big movie houses, the distributors. Weinstein at the time was 428 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: a major one, but you know what they all are, Fox, Miramax, 429 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 2: all of the companies that were distributing these things, and 430 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: they would sign up all these deals and get the 431 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: content so that you could have that coming into your home. 432 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: How that was built is a little more complicated than 433 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 2: it's worth telling about right now. So this company that 434 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: had acquired a utility company with the budding optic fiber 435 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 2: optic network for phone and data traffic. Remember we're about 436 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: to be in the voiceover IP days. We're starting to 437 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: think of a new about how we're going to watch movies, 438 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: how we're going to consume information. We're already moving away 439 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: from the newspaper. How we're going to consume information, how 440 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 2: it's going to be delivered to us, how fast it's 441 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: going to be delivered to us. 442 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: Well, eventually it. 443 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: Would be to our phone, but at this point we're 444 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: talking about delivering it to a computer. Well, the company 445 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: that cut the deal with Blockbuster, they then immediately so 446 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: they took an investment from a company called CIBC Worldwide 447 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: or CIBC world I forget exactly what it doesn't matter, 448 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 2: and that is from a bank in Toronto. They get 449 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: an investment of one hundred and fifteen million dollars from 450 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: this bank. At this point, the company is not making 451 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 2: a penny, not one penny. They get that one hundred 452 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: and fifteen million dollars and then they go and create 453 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: a side company which they call Operation Braveheart. They dump 454 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: all of that into there and make this look like 455 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: they have just booked one hundred and fifteen million dollars 456 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: in profits, which is what they did their fourth quarter 457 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: earnings for two thousand and first quarter earnings of two 458 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: thousand and one. So all the money they were losing 459 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: was offset by all this money they had supposedly made, 460 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: which was just an investment. 461 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: And the company that did all that can run the 462 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: Michael Arry Show maybe million dollar record sale. 463 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: Now the final pre trial hearing for Ryan Ralph being held. 464 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: His trial expected shortly if he doesn't lead out, which 465 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: I would imagine he will. 466 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember the name Ryan Ralph? 467 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not in favor of making people famous for 468 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: doing bad things. I wonder how many people remember the 469 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: incident itself. September fifteenth, twenty twenty four, a Secret Service 470 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 2: agent shot four rounds at Ryan Ralph, who was hiding 471 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: with an SKS style rifle in the shrubbery at Trump 472 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 2: International Golf Club in West Palm Beach. 473 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: He had his gun. 474 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: Through the fence pointed at Trump, who was walking between 475 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: the fifth and sixth holes at his golf course. He 476 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: just didn't have a good shot yet to pull the trigger, 477 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: but he was planning to. When the shots come whizzing 478 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: at him, he turns and runs, and he flees, and 479 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: he takes police on a chase where he is later caught. 480 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: It would turn out that he has a disturbing connection 481 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: to Ukraine, as do a lot of Americans. Where he's 482 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: gone back and forth. He has recruited to get Americans 483 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: to go there. He's raised money for Ukraine, a war 484 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: that is not our war, sure has torn this country 485 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: apart and costs you a lot of money. Well, that 486 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: isn't attempted assassination. You don't have to pull the trigger 487 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: to be there. And it will be interesting to see 488 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 2: as his trial begins. That is less than a year 489 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: ago and how quickly it's been pushed from the news 490 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: because the people deciding what goes on your TV screen 491 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: do not wish to tell the stories that cut against them. 492 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: And that's why we don't allow what is in the 493 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: news to be to determine what we talk about. We 494 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: might talk about things that they also happen to be covering, 495 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: but we're not going to cover things simply because a 496 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: news director who voted for Kamala Harris and Joe Biden 497 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: and Obama twice is covering it on their network. And 498 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: that seems to be real hard for some people to understand. 499 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 2: But we are clear on that we had seven killed 500 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: in over fifty shot in Chicago, and yet Brandon Johnson, 501 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: the mayor, and the governor JB. Pritzker are resisting President 502 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: Trump's efforts to send in the National Guard and clean 503 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: it up. As we have mentioned, the President has a 504 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: pre conference early this afternoon one o'clock Central. One of 505 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: the things that is being rumored is that it relates 506 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: to Chicago in him sending in the National Guard. I 507 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: would be surprised if he sends in the National Guard 508 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 2: when they're insisting that he not not to say he 509 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: couldn't do it. It's been done before, the famous Little 510 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: Rock School desegregation case and others. 511 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: I would be surprised. 512 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: However, if he does that, I would more expect him 513 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: to make a formal request that which is the reverse 514 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: of how this typically works, or for him to say 515 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: that within seventy two hours he will be sending in 516 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: the National Guard. But either way, the proofs in the 517 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: pudding with Washington d C not only how much safer 518 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: the district has become, but how happy the people are 519 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: with the results, extremely extremely happy. Yet another mainstream media 520 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: narrative about Donald Trump destroyed. The New York Times reports 521 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: that the federal investigation into John Bolton actually began under 522 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: the Biden administration after US intelligence collected evidence suggesting that 523 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: he had mishandled classified material. You know Frank Lucas, the 524 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: notorious drug dealer that American gangster was modeled on that 525 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: Denzel Washington played him, and actually Frank Lucas consultant on 526 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: the project. There was so much cash that was being 527 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: managed that when they were counting when it was only 528 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: ladies who counted the cash, or when they were cutting 529 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: the drugs, because it was so expensive, so valuable with 530 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: the street value, he didn't want any stolen. That the 531 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: ladies would have to cut the drugs in string bikinis, 532 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: so there wouldn't be any room for them to secret 533 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: funds out of there or drugs. Well, when you're working 534 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: for the drug boss and you're cutting up the heroin, 535 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: you're gonna end up dead if you steal the heroin 536 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: and take it out of there. Likewise, if you work 537 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: in American intelligence, that intelligence is worth more pound for 538 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: pound than heroin is. It's worth more to our national security, 539 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: but it's monetizable and cutter. Or Qatar, the same country 540 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: that funded the films of Kami Mundani's mother and is 541 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: now working to get him elected. That same country seems 542 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: to be one of the places that Joel that John 543 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: Bolton allegedly was selling American secrets to. It's also the 544 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: place you'll remember when we traded for bo Burgdal. Remember 545 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: we sent the bad guys back the ISIS members or 546 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: I guess they were isis remember where we sent them 547 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: cut her? That country, the same university, that the same 548 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: country that has an interest in Texas A and M 549 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: university campus. That country has repeatedly in the same vein 550 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: as China, engaged in activity that is against American interests. 551 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: To put it lightly, to put it very likely, the 552 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 2: mainstream media going out of their way to pay tribute 553 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: to the Minneapolis school shooter, you know, the guy that 554 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: looks like Eric Stoltzon mask by making sure they use 555 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: the correct pronouns. Jake Tapper defends calling the shooter she 556 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: saying on air she identifies as a female wants her 557 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: name to reflect that idea. 558 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 5: Another piece of the puzzle as to who the shooter 559 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 5: was in Minneapolis, Starterbuting says, according to court records, because 560 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 5: there's been some confusion about what the shooter's name was, 561 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 5: Robin Westman's mother applied to change your child's name in 562 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 5: twenty nineteen. It was at one point Robert Paul Westman. 563 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 5: But since she identifies as a female and wants her 564 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 5: name to reflect that identification was underage, it's now Robin west. 565 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: We'll see if I can find the article. 566 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: But the new York Post had a piece where he 567 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: came out before he died and said he regretted this 568 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: whole trans thing and said that he had been brainwashed. 569 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: It was also a breakup with. 570 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: A partner of some sort before that, but it appears 571 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: that he regretted the path he had taken, as young 572 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: people often do, right, but in this case, perhaps he 573 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: had gone too far down that path. With the use 574 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: of hormones and the like. When you're a boy who 575 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: transitions to a girl and now you want to transition 576 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: back to being a boy, it's not an easy undertaking. 577 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: Hormones are very very powerful, and he apparently regretted it, 578 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: regretted it terribly. We've also seen transhooter after transhooter Nashville, Aberdeen, Denver, Iowa, Lakewood. 579 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: We've seen shooter after shooter on these very very powerful 580 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: hormone changing drugs that would appear