1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: All right, what's up, everybody. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Move the Sticks. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Here with you during Combine Week. 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: Spucky Brooks going to be with you on Combline today 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: on a variety of our NFL media platforms starting Thursday. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: We will be with you two hours before the drills 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: begin each day. So I am ready. We've been burning 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: the midnight oil as we always do to kind of 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: cram and get ready for this event and to get 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: to know the three hundred plus players that are going 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: to be here and fire up to go through that 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: with you, my friend, what's been give us a clemse 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: into what your your prep life has been over the 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: course of the last couple of weeks. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: Well, like just like this little notebook, this my trustee 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: draft notebook, just filling it up with all kinds of stuff, right, 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: making grades, trying to really nail down top one hundred 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: and fifty players, so we can just have these conversations 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: that can go on any tangent, any path. When we 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: talked about the top prospects, and because the Combine is 22 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: such a different event, but one where we're hearing that 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: there's a lot of top players are going to participate. 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: It should be a lot of fun and I'm looking 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: forward to seeing some of the best players put their 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: wears on display. 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, players like Sonny Styles and Rvel Reese and Jeremiah 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: Love going to run the running back from Notre Dame, 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: top running back in this class, and his buddy Jadarium Price, 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: who might be the second running back off the board. 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: Insane to think about that kind of running back talent 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: on a team that did not make. 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: The College Football Playoff folks. 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the national champion Indiana Hoosiers have two running backs, 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: only one of which was invited to the combine in 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: Roman Himbe. We'll hear from a little bit later, but 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: I did want to kind of use that as a 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: jumping off point here, and you know, to kind of illustrate, 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: like I think Bucky and I'm glad we could talk 40 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: about the ferm Nando Mendoza piece of this, But with 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks this year, I feel like that group has 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: a has the most to gain and a lot to prove. 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: Over the course of this draft process. 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: Outside of Mendoza, who over the course of an undefeated 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: sixteen game national championship winning season showed you just about 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: everything you could ever want to see from a quarterback 47 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: prospect that is likely going to go number one overall. 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: But on the other side of this, Ty Simpson has 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: just fifteen starts. Garrett Nusmeyer, Drew Aller, and Kate Klubnick, 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: all with first round expectation going into the year, all 51 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: underperformed for a variety of reasons. Injuries, team issues, and 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: all of that. I feel like the quarterbacks are the 53 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: group with the most to gain. 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: How do you see it? 55 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe that because here's what we do know. 56 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: There are a bunch of teams that knee quarterbacks. There 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: are not enough quarterbacks to fill those seats in free 58 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: agency or the trade market. That means that some of 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: these quarterbacks who are coming off disappointing years have a 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 3: chance to maybe reverse their fortunes when it comes to 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: their draft stock. 62 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: You talked about Tyy Simpson. 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: Ty Simpson right now being the presumptive QB two in 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 3: the class fifteen starts. A man had a wofle slump 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: heading down the stretch, injuries, doesn't necessarily have the prototypical 66 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: size and the mentions that you look for. You have 67 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: a lot of those things working against them. But then 68 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 3: you have the first nine games of the season where 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: he looked terrific. He was throwing the ball all over 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: the yard. He has some intriguing traits when it comes 71 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: to his quickness and processing speed and all of those things, 72 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: so he's interesting as a one year starter. You have 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: Gary Knussmyer, who was expected to kind of be maybe 74 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: the bell of the ball coming into this year disappointing season, 75 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: and no one really understands why LSU didn't perform at 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: a high level on o offense. Carson Beck, someone who 77 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: has played a ton of games, led his team to 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: the National Championship game, but there are a lot of 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: questions that still. 80 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: Are surrounding his game. 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: And then Drew Allen from Penn State, a guy that physically, 82 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: if he walks through the door, he is exactly what 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: the prototypical franchise quarterback is supposed to look like, but 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: very pedestrian numbers disappointed in the clutch when he had 85 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: his chance in the semifinals a year ago. Didn't necessarily 86 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: approve upon that. The questions, the questions, the questions with 87 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are there, but all it takes is a nice 88 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: throwing exhibition, a nice set of interviews to change the 89 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: narrative and at what I will point to and I 90 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: did this in talking about drew Out when you look 91 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: at Tyler Shut, the momentum that Tyler Shut created not 92 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: on from senior Boloan, but a lot of the conversation 93 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: coming out of the combound where he elected to throw 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: the ball all over the yard. 95 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: He was able to help himself. Some guys will. 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: So some people will have a chance to help themselves 97 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: by the way they handle the forore they event in Indianapolis. 98 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: All right, So here's an name that you and I 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: have talked about a little bit, but yeah, one that 100 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: I think will stand to benefit from the combine performance 101 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: in the way that Chuck did both running and throwing. 102 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Luke Almeyer. Yeah at Illinois. Yeah, you said it before. 103 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that before. I forget forget where. 104 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: But I think he's one that has more athleticism that 105 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: I think probably showed that people realize maybe, And I 106 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: think he's going to ace the interviews with coaches in 107 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: the room as they've kind of joined the process right 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: now that the season's really over, especially the ones that 109 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: were playing into the playoffs and all that, and then 110 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: I think he's going to show he wants to showcase 111 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: his ability to drive the ball down the field, which. 112 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: He didn't do a ton at Illinois this year. 113 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: So I think, again, these are opportunities for you to 114 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: for quarterbacks, especially to do things that maybe they didn't 115 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: their offenses didn't ask them to do a ton and 116 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: just to kind of show you check that box, right, Hey, 117 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: I got this, I can do this. 118 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: This is in my wheelhouse. 119 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 4: Right. 120 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: And so again, like a player like him, a player 121 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: like nuss Meyer, like Ty Simpson, all the guys who 122 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: we've kind of talking about, this is like the part 123 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: of the redemption Tour in a way that gives them 124 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: a chance to kind of reintroduce themselves to the evaluation 125 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: community in a way that maybe their tape in twenty 126 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: five kind of left them wanting a little bit. 127 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, now, this is really fascinating. 128 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: And so when you talk about Altmeyer coming off senior ball, 129 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: coming off of a solid performance there being able to 130 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: be talked about, having the endorsement of the coaches back 131 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: at Illinois talking positively about his ability to handle volume 132 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: and the leadership ability and those things. And then it 133 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: comes down to okay, when you throw him in a 134 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: class that is full of uncertainty, all is one. And 135 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: I say this coming on the heels of having conversations 136 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: with coaches, It's amazing how on our side we may 137 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: view certain things, but on the other side they're like, 138 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: oh no, we absolutely love this stuff, and I'm gonna 139 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: use your guy Mendoza as a point of reference. It's 140 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: funny in talking about Mendoza to NFL coaches, you're like, hey, well, 141 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: what about this, and he doesn't have these stellar stats, 142 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: and then when you talk to him about the stuff 143 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: that matters, they're like, yeah, but here's what matters. Look 144 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: at the way that he dials it up in the clutch, 145 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: look at the toughness that he displays. Look at how 146 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 3: he was able to constantly elevate his game from kl 147 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: to Indiana. And things that are lightly discussed in the 148 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: media place, like Mendoza's career at KAL, they're like, oh no, 149 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: there's so much good tape there that leads them to 150 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: be a better player at Indiana. So when you talk 151 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: about Altmeyer some of these other guys, you just never 152 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: know how they're viewed in the room that matters. What 153 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl may have done for him what the 154 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: conversations that coaches had with other coaches may do for them. 155 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: This is a big event because if you put on 156 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: the throwing exhibition to go with some of those things 157 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: he interviews, it helps you. 158 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 159 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: Now, Fernando Mendoza perceived number one overall pick, number one 160 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: player in this draft from DJ's Top fifty ranking from 161 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: your Quarterback positional rankings, Bucky best player in college football 162 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: this year, Heisman Trophy winner. 163 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: He's not throwing at the Combine. Big deal, No big deal. 164 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: No big deal, because he already knows if I'm Fernando, 165 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: if I'm Fernando Mendoza, he already knows that he's going there. 166 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: And when you talk to coaches, not Kobiak, but people 167 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: that come from that family tree, they certainly love what 168 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: he brings to the table, and I think that's really 169 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: important when they talk about fit in scheme. Yeah, he 170 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: doesn't have to do much of anything. What he needs 171 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: to do is called the real estate age. It kind 172 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: of trying to figure out where he wants to be 173 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: located at another facility, what kind of things are important 174 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: to him, because yeah, he's gonna spend a lot of 175 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: time in Vegas and he wants to have everything settle 176 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: when he gets there. But yeah, this is not a 177 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: big deal that he won't throw. Anyone who is interested 178 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: in Mendoza they've already seen him throw live, So this 179 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: is just kind of like the icing on the cake. 180 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: But when you're the clear number one in the class, 181 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: you pick and choose what you want to participate in. 182 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: That's fair. 183 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're talking about an audience of one here, 184 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: or should we say like an audience? 185 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would love to say on TV like 186 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: we could drum it up. There's no competition that you 187 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: can drum up. There's no debate, there's no Fernando Mendoza 188 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: versus is he's slotted He's going to the Raiders. Let's 189 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: go to pick number two where we can have the 190 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: conversation about, hey, is it David Bailey or R V L. 191 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: Reese? 192 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: But Mendoza there's not a debate about where he's going 193 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: to go in this class. 194 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's no debate that the as we kind 195 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: of make this transition out of the quarterbacks, that the 196 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: the edge rusher class is strong and deep and exciting 197 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: for teams that need to fill needs and find impact 198 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: players at that position. However, one one last thing though 199 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: on the quarterbacks. I meant to say it with nuss Meyer. 200 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: It's going to be a headline. It was a minimal 201 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: headline Inmobile. He's got an eight and three quarter inch hand. 202 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: It's sub nine inches. Joe Burrows was nine inches right 203 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: and from from peaky to thumb right. Yes, that's that's 204 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: how we make the measurement. And it's you know, nine 205 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: is like the minimum that we like, the bare minimum 206 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: for quarterbacks, right, you like to see it? 207 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just got worry higher. 208 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what you would do from a scouting scandpoint, 209 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: if he has a sub nine inch hand, then you 210 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: go in, look, okay, well how many pombos has he had? 211 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: Does it look like he has an issue? 212 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: If they have a game, you want to try and 213 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: find a game where they had inclement conditions? How does 214 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 3: he throw the ball in the rain? They'd win? Give 215 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 3: him a factor. Can't he be a guy that can 216 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: play in the Northeast. You know, we talk about the 217 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: New York Jets need the quarterback. Would he be able 218 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: to handle that physically with his hand size? So what 219 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: we will see from Neusmeyer. They'll talk about his hand size, 220 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: but when he has his private workouts, you can imagine 221 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: that there'll be a soapy ball that he have to throw. 222 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: He'll have to deal with some things just to convince 223 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: evaluators that it's not going to be a big issue. 224 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: Bucket was fifteen degrees with thirty mile an hour win 225 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: gus in mobile at game time at kickoff of the 226 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: senior goal, and Garrett Nusmeyer piloted his team's offense to 227 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: the first two scores of the game, all the while 228 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: completing passes left and right in the wind, in the cold, 229 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 2: and won the MVP of the game. I think that 230 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: was a blessing in disguise. I think that was something 231 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: like he didn't play in a ton of bad weather 232 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: games down in Baton Rouge, but to show up that 233 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: way in those conditions I think was a benefit. So 234 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: we'll see how that ultimately affects him. But it is 235 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: going to be talked about so as people watching this 236 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 2: as a combine primer, you'll hear that line of conversation 237 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: when it comes to the quarterback Garrett nen Smyer. But 238 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: getting back to the edge players man. 239 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: David Bailey. 240 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: RVEL Reese, Ruben Bain a key messador like you just 241 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: kind of keep going on down the line. Do you 242 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: see some parallels at all because of the way they 243 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: were used in college in the way that we're forecasting 244 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: them to be used in the NFL. 245 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: Between r L Rees and Michael Parsons. 246 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: So that's the conversation. 247 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: Everyone is chasing the unicorn Michael Parsons because Michael Parson 248 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: has been an All Pro player. He's been a guy 249 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: who was able to come into the league as an 250 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: off ball linebacker, move outside on past rush downs, put 251 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: his hand into the dirth, come from upright stance, and 252 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: come off the edge. 253 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: Everyone is chasing that guy. 254 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: And because he's delivered so many splash plays early in 255 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: his career, you're looking for the next one. In r 256 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 3: VL Reese, you have a freak athlete, a guy who 257 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: literally is only a one year starter at Ohio State, 258 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: has limited experience, but has unbelievable natural tools for the position. 259 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: The challenge that you have in Reese is the allfall linebacker. 260 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: Is he better suited to be an edge player because 261 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: he hasn't played enough. That's a lot to put on 262 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: his plate right away as a rookie, Where can we 263 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: best maximize his potential without overloading his brain? To me, 264 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people will say, look, he's 265 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: best suited to put him on the edge, let him 266 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,119 Speaker 3: get used to playing golf of that, because the instincts 267 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: that you see at linebacker, he might be count late, 268 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: but he's so fast he makes up for it with 269 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: his othe leticism in the pros when everything is a 270 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: nanosecond faster. Does he have the natural instincts at inside 271 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: linebacker to make an impact or would we be better 272 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 3: to just put him outside and wind them up and 273 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: let him go. 274 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: Michael Parsons didn't play at all in the year leading 275 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: up to him getting drafted. He was a COVID opt out, 276 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: as you might remember, and you know he rushed around 277 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: a little bit at Penn State, but was mostly an 278 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: off ball backer, and that's how he began his career 279 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: with the Cowboys. But you noted it in training camp 280 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: that year he and dan Quinn were didn't work on 281 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: pass rush moves after practice. 282 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: And the other part. 283 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: He was a defensive end in high school, so he 284 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: was a defensive end in Harrisburg in high school, so 285 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't the first time he's done it. 286 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: But you're right because we were there at training camp. 287 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: Dan Quinn every day Michael Parson is off to the 288 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: side pre practice, in the middle of practice pass rush moves. 289 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, this gonna be some intrigue in some comparisons to parallels. 290 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: I bet if you asked dan Quinn again, if he 291 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: went and looked at Arvel Reese, would he try and 292 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: find the same formula where like, you give him more 293 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: time to refine as a pass rusher rather than throwing 294 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: him out there and just allowing him to, you know, 295 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: asking him to win because he's not refined in that 296 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: part of his game either, rather than just running him 297 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: out there and letting him try to win with athleticism, 298 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: say like, Okay, we're going to give you, We're going 299 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: to help you develop a plan of attack when you're 300 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: rushing the passer all the while we're gonna let you, 301 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: you know, go find the ball and make plays at 302 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: the second level of the defense. So I think there's 303 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: a case to be made on both sides. I think 304 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: it ultimately obviously depends on where he ends up, on 305 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: how that coaching staff you know, sees best fit to 306 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: utilize that plan. What else are you kind of looking 307 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: forward to when we talk about position groups getting out 308 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: here and running at the combine? 309 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: Well, you talked about him. 310 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: You know, some people to say that Jeremiah Love is 311 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: the best player in this draft, and it's a position 312 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 3: where we don't often talk about the running back being 313 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: the number one player. So he has said that he's 314 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: going to work out and he's going to run. I 315 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: think you want to see how special is he? Is 316 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: he sake On Barkley special? Is he Bjon Robinson special? 317 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: Where does he fall in that list of runners that 318 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: have come off the board in the top ten, Because 319 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: there's a sweet spot for him to come off the board, 320 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: and I would say this sweet spot is eight to nine. 321 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: The New Orleans. 322 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: Saints Kellen Moore, what they can do now that they're saying, hey, 323 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: we feel really good about Tyler shot. 324 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: How can we support them? Alva Kamar is in the building. 325 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: But can they create a situation like Detroit has with 326 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: two running backs that can do a bunch of different things, 327 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: make the load light on the quarterback? Or Kansas City 328 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: Chiefs Patrick Mahomes coming off the acl Eric Bimmy taking 329 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: over as the offensive coordinator, does he go there to me. 330 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: How he works out not running catching the ball ultimately 331 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 3: determines how the imagination runs well for those two teams. 332 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: All right, it's time for Hot or Not, brought to 333 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: you by with Sabi Hot Cloud Storage. And DJ's second 334 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: run at the Top fifty list has generated some commentary. 335 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: There's some movement there, and again this is for all 336 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: the people who love to snap judgment on things and 337 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: take the social media to voice outrage over lists and rankings. 338 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: This is a part of the process. Right. 339 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: By the time that first one comes out, all five 340 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: hundred players are not going to be evaluated at the 341 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: same time. Right, You're trying to get the best fifty 342 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 2: out there, put them on that list, and then you 343 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: go back and you're watching tape of everybody. This again, 344 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: according to DJ, this is part of his plan. He 345 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: goes back and uses the combine. Is like that next 346 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: big mile marker gets three hundred names done essentially ahead 347 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: of the combine to be ready to talk about him. 348 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: Then can better place guys for the Top fifty prospect list, 349 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: which now features a newcomer and a newcomer, a couple 350 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 2: of newcomers, one of which was Zion Young, who debuts 351 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: at number forty seven on this list. But how about 352 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: our boy Omar Cooper from down the Road and Bloomington, Indiana, Wide. 353 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Receiver for the Hoosiers, who debuts. 354 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: At number nineteen, So goes from off the list up 355 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: to nineteen. Once DJ was able to watch the tape 356 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 2: on him, I remember he called me right after, right 357 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: after he watched him. Was still watching Omar. I was like, 358 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: I'm an Omar Cooper fan. I was like, yeah, but's 359 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: a my I've been an Omar Cooper fan for a 360 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: long time. Now, come join the club. The water is 361 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: warm over here, Come on in and lo again. I 362 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: just wanted to say that because it illustrates how the 363 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 2: process works. It's not that Omar Cooper suddenly became the 364 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: nineteenth player, it's the evaluation piece became a little bit 365 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: more clear and easier to place. And he is clearly 366 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: a top fifty player. DJ has him as a top 367 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: twenty player. 368 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: Bucky. 369 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: To me, that's a first round pick right there. 370 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 371 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: No, it's interesting to hear DJA talk about that. Omar 372 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: Cooper to me and I wrote down, he's a pro. 373 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: And when I look at him, crafty, route runner, smooth 374 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: and fluid, polished route runner, and you knew this playing position. 375 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: I think the best traits that he has his patience 376 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: and his discipline as a route runner, just really really 377 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 3: good at understanding what he needs to do to get 378 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: open versus the coverage that he's facing. Not explosive, not dynamic, 379 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: But I think he's steady, reliable, just a chain mover. 380 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 4: Now on the. 381 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: Other side, people will say, hey, he only has four 382 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: one hundred your games in his career, nineteen stars, twenty 383 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: two touchdowns. Though, to me, he's super natural as a 384 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: compliment opposite a dominant number one res receiver. 385 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: But how do you value that. 386 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: That's where this combine, That's where how he works out, 387 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: how he performs, and I think this is a really 388 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 3: solid wide receiver class. 389 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: How does he stack up with. 390 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: All those guys when we're able to see them back 391 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: to back to back to back. I know this though, 392 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: whenever Indiana needed plays and they needed him to work 393 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: over the middle of the field. 394 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: He was terrific. 395 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 3: How we valued at how we quantified I don't know, 396 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: but I do know. 397 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: He certainly is worthy of being in that conversation as 398 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 4: a top fifty player. 399 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: I think he is faster than people think. And again 400 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: I was actually as we're recording this on Tuesday of 401 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 2: Combine week. I was down in Bloomington this morning talking 402 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: to some of the coaches in some of the receivers 403 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: that are still there. But Omar is the guy who 404 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: can get to top speed like this, Like he has 405 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: got that acceleration which is part of what makes him 406 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: so difficult to bring down Bucky. He forced thirty miss 407 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: tackles this year to lead the Big ten. That was 408 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: third most by wide receiver in all of the FBS. 409 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: He is a really tough tackle, and he has a 410 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: way like this natural ability, like you can't teach it 411 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: to contort his body and pick up an extra two 412 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: yards with a defender still wrapped all over his ankles, right, Like, 413 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: he gets that hidden yardage and he makes dudes miss, 414 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: and he is strong through the catch point and through contact. 415 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: I just think like that that ability of him. 416 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: To be elusive with the ball in his hands and 417 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: to create plays with the ball in his hands. One, 418 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: it's a product of Fernando's ball placement, but two it's 419 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: a product of his natural ability to make that work. 420 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: And so like that to me is his superpower. Is 421 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: man like Fernando, you know, was talking to him last 422 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 2: week and he said, you know, he brought up deep 423 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: the Deebo Samuel name, like because he's he's a physical breaker. 424 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: He's not like a you know, water bug like zach 425 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: rya branch. You know, it's like a little bit different, 426 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 2: a different style of getting through that first tackler. I 427 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: think I think there's he's got some pooka to his 428 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: game in the way that he just is kind of 429 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: like grounded. He kind of just always comes down with 430 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 2: the ball, strong hands, like there's just I don't know 431 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: that there's one comp but I think he does some 432 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 2: things that inspire comparisons to a bunch of different players. 433 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that the best way that you 434 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: can describe him is he's a pro. When you look 435 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 3: at him play, you can just like, hey, man, he's 436 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 3: a pro. That is what an NFL receiver looks like. 437 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: I think it's really important when we value him. I 438 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 3: think he needs to be positioned in the right spot 439 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: with the right thing. That's why I say I think 440 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: he's more of a robbin than a batman. But every 441 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: offense needs someone that can be that compliment opposite a 442 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: dominant guy. 443 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 4: He certainly can go get. 444 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: It, but to me, he's he's a two, a three 445 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 3: someone just have a lot of success, an eleven personnel 446 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: doing things. 447 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: I think he played outside and inside, he did both. 448 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is always my preference to opt for the 449 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: skilled route runner over the athlete. And he is so 450 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: skilled as a as a route runner that he's going 451 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: to find a way to consistent get open. 452 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 4: Uh. It makes me think of Bobby Trees, who recently 453 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: retired Robert Woods. 454 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: Robber Wood's a good one, and how. 455 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: Robert Woods was just a very productive player in that 456 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: offense for the Rams for a long time. 457 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and then we'll see his buddy Elijah Surant 458 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: a little bit later on in the draft, but I 459 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: think probably on day two again, another physical, physical type 460 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: of player, especially at the catch point. Carnel Tait is 461 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 2: still the top dude for me, Bucky, and then I 462 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: think at this point I've got like Jordan Tyson up there, 463 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: and then probably Omar and then mackay Lemon is kind 464 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: of the way that I'm I'm viewing it right now. 465 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they can be fighting, you They're gonna be 466 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: some bloodless streets fight on. 467 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: I'll say, yeah, I'll say this about Jordan Tyson. To me, 468 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 3: I love Jordan Tyson, and comparisons are always thrown out 469 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: there because you're trying to give someone a vision. But 470 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: I feel about Jordan Tyson the same way I felt 471 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: about Jackson Smith and Jig. 472 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 4: But when he was coming out, I. 473 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: Felt like he is as smooth a wide receiver as 474 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: there comes. But injuries abound, a ton of injuries that 475 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: you have to work through and do whatever. 476 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: But when it comes to playing the game, he is 477 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: big time. I love him. 478 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: But this wide receiver class, there's so many guys like 479 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 3: Casey concepts you on. I mean they just Denzel Boston, 480 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: Chris Brazzl, I mean they're Malachi Feels, who is big time. 481 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 3: I mean they have a lot of guys, the Louisville kid, 482 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 3: Chris Chris Ball, Yeah, Chris Ball. Like like, there are 483 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: a lot of playmakers, and the sweet spot for wide 484 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: receiver has always been the second or third round. You 485 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: can get some guys, as it emerged from day two, 486 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: they'd end up being big time players and make contributions 487 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: all over the place. 488 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see how many of them end up 489 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: running here at the combine, and you know, I think 490 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: that's always you know, for the for the receivers, you know, 491 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: not just the forty, but the ten. Right, how fast 492 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: can you get out of your stance and get going? 493 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: You know, how sudden are you? Obviously that ten is 494 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: big for the edge rushers. And I know we've kind 495 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: of gotten more into that the ten yard and I 496 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: know here I move the sticks kind of had some 497 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: correlation to sack numbers with that with that measurable right there, 498 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: the ten yard split on the forty yard dash. So 499 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: we'll be following all that for you and we will 500 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: have by the way, that was this week's Hot or 501 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: Not segment brought to you by with Sabi Hot Cloud storage, 502 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 2: store more and do more with your data. Try them 503 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: for free at with Sabi dot com. But Bucky and I, 504 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: in addition to our combine today duties will be bringing 505 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: you wrap ups of the day that was in the 506 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: combine starting Friday, So we'll bring you a wrap up 507 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: on Friday after Thursday's work. Same for Saturday to Friday 508 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: and Sunday after the quarterbacks, wide receivers and running backs roles. 509 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 2: So a bunch of move the Sticks content coming your 510 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: way this week from Indianapolis, but that will wrap it 511 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: up for us here on this episode. For Bucky Brooks, 512 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: I am Red Lewis and we will catch you next 513 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: time here on Move the Sticks.