1 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Boom, Have no fear of the Iron Rapperport Stereo podcast 2 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: is here. 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Bigdy Boom, have no fear of the im or Rappaport 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: Stereo podcast is here. Welcome to the Iron Dome of Disruption. 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Zygity Zone of Disruption. I love this episode. 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: I love this episode. I got a young man, twenty 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: three year old young man named Eyal Jakobe, who I 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: met on social media. You're like, what you met a 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: twenty three year old young man on social media? Yes, 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: this kid is a U Penn graduate. He has been 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: witnessing firsthand all the craziness, the kookiness, the discussions in 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: real time and real life, all the anti Jewish, all 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: the anti Semitism that went on at the University of Pennsylvania. 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: He shared his story. He's actually litigating right now against 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: U Penn. 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: He's twenty five. 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: Three years old, he's got the voice of a fifty 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: five year old newscaster. He's smart, he's brilliant, he's passionate, 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: and I gotta say he's super duper inspiring. I love 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: this episode. I'm proud of this episode. Let's get right 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: to it. I got y'all ya Kobe, who you don't know, 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: but you're gonna know and you're gonna love This episode 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: on the I Am rap Ports Stereo podcast coming up 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: right now. Miles Jordan aka the Bleach Brothers aka the 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: Dust Brothers. Start this episode with something real nice. Start 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: this episode with something real love, but most spartly, start 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: this episode with something real fun. I Am Rapaport Stereo Podcast. 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: Let's go baby, Iron Rapports Stereo Podcast is here. As 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: I mentioned, I have a guest somebody who I met online, 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: which always sounds weird, but in this day and age, 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: especially with the Jewish community, I've met incredible people that 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: I now even consider friends online and this young man 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: is somebody that has inspired me and I know has 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: inspired a lot of people. And his story and his 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: information that he shares on social media, particularly on Twitter, 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: is a must. He's a must fall So, like I 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, I want to introduce ey' Al Yah Kobe 38 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: two the I Am Rappaport Stereo Podcast. 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: How are you my friend? 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: Good? Thank you so much for having me on. 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. So let's just get into it. 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: I believe I first heard your story read about your 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: story because of everything that was going on your last 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: year year and a half at u Penn. Obviously there's 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: been so much discussion congressional hearings, but you were one 46 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: of the kids who was at UPEN post October seventh 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: and dealing with the anti Jewishness, anti Semitism, anti Zionist, 48 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: the bullying, and you witnessed it firsthand and you know 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: took it, you know, all the way through. So can 50 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: you just share your story and your experience. 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: Is definitely I describe myself as an accidental activist, as 52 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: someone who prior to October seventh, I had, you know, 53 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: my personal Instagram, my personal Snapchat, nothing public whatsoever. And actually, 54 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: pre dating October seventh that UPenn, we had something called 55 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: the Palestine Writes Literature Festival, hosted by a woman who 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: goes by the name of Susan Abuhalla, who today when 57 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: we sounded the alarms, we were gasoling to being told 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: this is just to celebrate policy and culture. This is 59 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: you know, nothing to do with politics whatsoever. And I 60 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: started speaking up because the list of speakers was an 61 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: entire menu of the world's biggest anti Semites, ranging from 62 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: people like Roger Waters to people like like Norah Rikott and. 63 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: The executive director today sits beyond zoom. 64 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: Whereas I have rational framings and Martin Luther King quote 65 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: behind me, she has the PFLP flag behind her. And 66 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: so I started speaking out about that. And in the 67 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: same period of this, the week of the Palais Gondwright's 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: literature festival, the Hillo was broken into by a student 69 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: yelling fuck the Jews and flipping over tables. The Khabadsuka 70 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: was vandalized. Jews Are Nazis was written adjacent to Penn's 71 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: Jewish Return in the House. And so if you just 72 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: cherry picked one incident, then you could say this is, 73 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: you know, a one off. There's gonna be biggots in 74 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 4: the world. But when you have three different, clearly anti 75 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: Semitic events in the span of one week along with 76 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: this festival, it proves to be a little bit more systemic. 77 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: So one October seventh hit, I'd assumed that day with alumni, parents, 78 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: administrators to talk about the ensuing anti semitism that was 79 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: on campus at ABVI. That zoom meeting was canceled because 80 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 4: I woke up to a completely different reality than the 81 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: day before. So that's how I started getting into it 82 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: and now I'm here wait. 83 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: Oh, so coincidentally, you had a Zoom meeting set up 84 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: on October seventh, obviously before everything had went down. 85 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: That was just a coincidence. 86 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: I mean, we were having Zoom meetings pretty much every 87 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: single day since the event that hill. 88 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: There was sorry a fourth incident. There was a. 89 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: Swastika drawn inside one of the campus buildings, this massive 90 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 4: red swastika, and so we were having meetings every day. 91 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: And on October seventh, we were supposed to have a 92 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 4: meeting to continue a conversation, and obviously it was canceled 93 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: because there was other things going on. 94 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: That's I didn't realize that there was so much that 95 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: you guys were dealing with and concerned about pre October seventh, 96 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. So afterwards, after October seven, how did 97 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: the experience of being a student a you Pen ramp up? 98 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: How did it change? 99 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: And walk me through everything that you were experiencing in 100 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: those first few days, weeks, months, and consequently, you know, 101 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: throughout your time at you Pen. 102 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: I would say the way that I described the current 103 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: situation on college campuses in America, on the Petrie dishes 104 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: and they have bacteria whatever, you want to call them 105 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: in the Petri dish, and that bacteria just multiplied post 106 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 4: October seven. 107 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: But the bacteria has always been there. 108 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 4: There's always been the same professors, there's been the same 109 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 4: administrators who have zero moral clarity, who have no backbone. 110 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: There's the same cowards on campus that refuse to speak 111 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 4: up and just be bystanders. 112 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: And so what. 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: Happened was on October seventh, rather than sunlight, which should 114 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: have killed the bacteria in the petriot dish, it was 115 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: this darkness that set up that allowed it to multiply. 116 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 4: So in October eighth, there was all about ten minutes 117 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: from UPenn's campus, which is partially organized by students and professors, 118 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 4: where one of the main speakers at the rally said, 119 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: I salute Camas for a job well done. I don't 120 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: care about innocent civilians. There are non in Israel. And 121 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: the entire crowd erupted in applause and cheers at this speaker. 122 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 4: And so it's not just one rogue speaker, it's the 123 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 4: entire crowd of five hundred people in the middle of 124 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: the day that are celebrating the massacre. And so I 125 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: penned I've written an article a couple of weeks back 126 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: during the mess of the swastika and the Hillel and 127 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: Lahammad and the festival prior to October seventh, talking about 128 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: how the first article I've ever written in my life 129 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: talking about how Penn is you know, the nickname of 130 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: Penn is jew Penn or the University of Pennsylvania, and 131 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: how this anti Semitism on campus is just an untenable situation. 132 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: So I pended an article on October eleventh called Penn 133 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 4: Set and Chance, talking about at a university has now 134 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: another opportunity to condemn antisemitism, condemn the slaughter of innocent 135 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: civilians in Israel, And instead what we got was four 136 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 4: separate statements by the former president, Liz McGill, because each 137 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: one was more cowardly empathetic than the last. And so 138 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: Penn continued to prove that it had not found it 139 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: it's moral backbone. It's not found that any backbone for 140 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: that matter, to speak with moral clarity. And then in 141 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: December I was invited by the House Workforce and Education 142 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 4: Committee to come speak at the Republican Leadership Press Conference 143 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: prior to the three college presidents from Columbia not Columbia Harvard, 144 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: m I T and U Penn. So I was invited 145 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: to speak alongside Speaker Johnson elist Stephonic and that video 146 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: went viral. And then since since that moment, which I 147 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: was not expecting, as well as talked about it being 148 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: an accidental activists, in my mind, I was just thinking, 149 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: this is so cool. I'm going to meet the Speaker 150 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: of the House. I'm going to be in Congress. I'm 151 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: going to be in Washington, d C. And luckily that 152 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: video went viral. I did a bunch of media interviews, 153 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 4: kept speaking out, and then the opportunity to testify again 154 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: before the House Judiciary Committee to talk about certain attorney 155 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: generals in highly liberal cities like New York City, like 156 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: Philadelphia where we have Larry Krasner in Filly and I 157 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: don't even want to say the name of the Attorney 158 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: general in New York City to give any credence or 159 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: respect to them, and talk about how they're failing to 160 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: prosecute the people who are taking over buildings, failing to 161 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: prosecute people who are assaulting their fellow classmates. And then 162 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: after that hearing, I downloaded X. I made a public 163 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: Instagram account and that's how I've managed to stay vocal 164 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: since graduating. 165 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: Were you at the hearings when a last defonik was 166 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: taking on the presidents? Were you there so because you 167 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: must have been before. I know, I just asked you 168 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: a question. I'm interrupting. I'm sorry because for me, first 169 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: of all, it is the first time I really heard 170 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: at least the phonic speak I was talking about elated. 171 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: I was so moved by the tenacity and genuine passion 172 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: which she showed. And of course this is the context, context, context, 173 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: you know, that's really the number one iconic thing from 174 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: those hearings. But I like, I feel like if I 175 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: met at least the phonic I would I would cry 176 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: because it was like she stood up so strongly and 177 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: so genuinely, especially for somebody in government. I always feel 178 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: like they're all so full of crap, but like her 179 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: passion was so real and she's not even Jewish, and 180 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: it was just like, this is just somebody who's standing 181 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: because it's so obvious what's going on. And her response 182 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: and the way she was questioning was was in that 183 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: tone like it's so obvious, like are you gonna sit here, 184 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: lie to me and lie to the world about what 185 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: we've all seen and what we've all witnessed right in 186 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: front of my face, and I'm going to give you 187 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: another chance to answer it, and they just couldn't get 188 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 2: it right. And that's why I just was so impressed 189 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: by her. So sorry to ask you a question to 190 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: cut you off, but I just wanted to because it 191 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: must have been a lot to you to see that 192 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: happening under present. 193 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: I don't know, and you're spot on, and I've had 194 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: the honor of meeting alis Staphonic tens of times at 195 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 4: this point, and what you saw in that video is 196 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: what you get from Alistaphonic. She has complete moral clarity, 197 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 4: and it's not only impressive, but like you said, touching 198 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 4: how much he cares about the Jewish community despite not 199 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 4: not being Jewish, and showing a lot more moral fortitude 200 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: and passion with combat anti Semitism more than a lot 201 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: of Junes that I've that I've met. But to your 202 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: point on whether I was there or not, so I 203 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: the way that the committee room works is that there's 204 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: two kind of waiting areas for the congress people their 205 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: staff in the back, and after about an hour of 206 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: listening to the hearing, I wanted to just hang out 207 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: in the side room on like a comfy couch and 208 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 4: just watch it from there. And thank god I did, 209 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: because my face was literally right behind Claudine Gay when 210 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 4: she was asked to calling for the genocide of Jews 211 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 4: violet the code of conduct, and my jaw dropped, literally 212 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: dropped hearing not only the inability to say obviously violates 213 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: a code of conduct, but the smirk and sort of 214 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: arrogance of her answer as well. And so I would 215 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: have become an instant viral meme with my facial expression 216 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: had I been still in that hearing room. But actually, 217 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 4: a fun fact is that stefanic vant of questioning wasn't 218 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: just calling for the genocide of Jews, violet the code 219 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 4: of conduct, and that. 220 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: Being the gotcha moment that went viral. 221 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: The gotcha moment was she was expecting them all to say, yes, 222 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 4: obviously it violates a code of conduct, like why would 223 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: you even ask that question? And for her to say, okay, well, 224 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: then if it does, why aren't you doing anything about it? 225 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: Because here are statements from professors, students, administrators that clearly 226 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 4: do call for the genocide of Jews, and so it's 227 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: crazy that and a lot of people don't know this 228 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: is that that wasn't even supposed to be got your question. 229 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: I was supposed to lay. 230 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: Up followed by what was supposed to be the gotcha question. 231 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: And it's just I mean, two of them lost their 232 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: jobs for it. 233 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:39,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a crazy, crazy thing to witness. 234 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: You went on to take on your university. Correct, Yes, we're. 235 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: Still in active litigation with the university. 236 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: What can you talk about in regards to taking on 237 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: is it just you like, I know sometimes when if 238 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: you're still involved with, you know, litigation in lawsuits. I've 239 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: had one or two in the past. I know that 240 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: you know, you're not allowed to talk about it much. 241 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: What can you share? What can you talk about your case? 242 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: Your suit against you pen. 243 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: So I made the decision too. 244 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: I was actually I was fairly hesitant to sue the 245 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: University of UPenn. I say this proudly as a school 246 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: that I personally love, the Institution of UPenn. My grandfather attended, 247 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: my mom attended, my brother attended. I hope my kids attend. 248 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: And so I'm like, I wasn't an activist. I'm not 249 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: planning into going into activism, planning to going to finance 250 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: and suing your university is not always the best thing, 251 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: so I was very hesitant about it. And then in 252 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: I want to say November of twenty twenty three, So 253 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: to preface this is I had had a call with 254 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 4: the head of public Safety through the hill L break 255 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 4: in after the command incident, after the Swastik incident. 256 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: Because at Penn, being in West Philadelphia. 257 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: It's not the nicest neighborhood and so if someone, let's say, 258 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: gets mugged ten blocks away, the entire campus gets an 259 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: alert on their phone to just avoid the area. And 260 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: I was very frustrated with the university, sigifically with public 261 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: safety that when the hillel is being broken into and 262 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: people are only sucked the jews while flipping over tables, 263 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: that there was no pen alert that was sent. The 264 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: information was it's still to this day we don't actually 265 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: know exactly what transpired, but the information was never even 266 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 4: divulged from the university in the first place. And so 267 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: they came back to me, they're like, you know, you're right, 268 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 4: we should have in the like Hopefully an incident like 269 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: this never happens again, but if it does, we'll change 270 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: our policies accordingly. 271 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: Great like thought everything was good. 272 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: And then I was eating in Hillel, eating lunch in 273 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: Hillel in November, and I noticed the. 274 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: SWAT unit bomb sniffing dogs. 275 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: That were in the Hillel cafeteria and there was about 276 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 4: three hundred people in the Hillo and I go up 277 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: to one of the police officers. I'm like, Hey, what's 278 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: going on right now? And they say that there's an 279 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: active bomb threat in the Hillo. And I was petrified 280 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: that the university knowing that there's a bomb threat, that 281 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: now we know the bomb threat was made at around 282 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: seven am. The email to the school, to the student body, 283 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 4: to the professors that there was an active bomb threat 284 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: against Hillo wasn't. 285 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: Made until seven pm that night meeting. 286 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: For twelve hours, people were inside the Hillo and it 287 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: was clearly credible enough to the point where they had 288 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: the SWAT unit actively sweeping the building for any bombs, 289 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: and yet they never shared the information. And so it 290 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 4: was that day that I decided that there's no saving 291 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: Pen Internally. It's a systemic issue of rot that needs 292 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: to needs to be taken care of from a court 293 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 4: dictating to Pen the actions that they must take to 294 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 4: protect not just their Jewish students, but all students on campus, and. 295 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: So now in active litigation. 296 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: There's two other name plaintiffs and several other unnamed plaintiffs 297 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: as well. 298 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: Wow, so you said before this your your family went 299 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: to you Pen, your mother went to you Pen, and 300 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: you hope your kids go to you Pen. 301 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm surprised you still feel. 302 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: That way after what your experience, or do you hope 303 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: that you Pen improves and changes or like you know, 304 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that you say that you don't have like resentment, 305 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: Like fuck this place. 306 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with that. Why would 307 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: I send my kids here? 308 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: I feel that because the school needs to change. 309 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: My kids when they apply of college will probably be 310 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: in twenty five years from now. 311 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: So I give myself to I got it. I got 312 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: it to reform, to reform the school. 313 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: But the way that I think about it is that 314 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: it's simply an untenable. 315 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: Situation that's happening right now. 316 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: You have professors internally that are so frustrated by the 317 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: school not focusing on education, prioritizing this Marxist in doctrination 318 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: that idolizes terrorism and jihadism and Marxism and communism. And 319 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: not just focusing on the basics of what an education 320 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: is meant to be. You have an alumni class that 321 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 4: is outraged that their donations to the schools have been 322 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 4: dedicated creating never ending bureaucracy to creating these DEI centers 323 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: that do nothing other than promote exclusion. And so the 324 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: reason that I'm very confident the school will restore its 325 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 4: values is because there's no other option. Either Pen Columbia, Harvard, 326 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 4: the rest of them just shut down or just become 327 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 4: completely irrelevant, or they take the necessary actions. And I 328 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: personally believe that there's enough people that have their head 329 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: screwed on right to the point where these schools will 330 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 4: take the necessary actions that are needed true prioritize an 331 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: American education that promotes the values of Western civilization rather 332 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: than Stalin and Akamandinajad and the Ayatola. 333 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: Speaking of market Marxist you're in New Yorker, right, Yes, 334 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: I have been talking. 335 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: All of us are talking. 336 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: New Yorkers are talking of all face denomination of racist, 337 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: crazy and color. What is your take on the mayoral 338 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: race coming up with zoron the moron Eric Adams, Curtis Sliwa, 339 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: and Cuomo, if you were a betting. 340 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Man, I know you're in finance. 341 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: And although like I said, e'all is only twenty three, 342 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: even though he's got the voice of like a sixty 343 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: five year old man, like you should be in radio, man, 344 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: you should be doing you know, you should be doing 345 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: voiceover shit. You got some you should be doing like 346 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: you know, like sprite commercials or like you know, like 347 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: you know, bad breath commercials like try you know, listerine, 348 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: it'll make your breath smell smell fresh and voice sound 349 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: like mine. 350 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: Based on everything we know today. 351 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: In coming in the last few days of July, who 352 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: is going to win the election to become mayor of 353 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: New York City in November? 354 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: Currently Zorron Mamdana is gonna be the mayor in come 355 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: the election at Isle. Every Paul has proven this because 356 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: for some reason, Adam's, Cuomo and Sliwa think that it's 357 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 4: proven in any way, shape or form for them to 358 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 4: split the vote of people with just an iota of 359 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: common sense In terms of the three and who I've 360 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: met with Andrew Kuomo, I've met with Irak Adams, I've 361 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 4: never met Siwa. But what I do know about sleewa 362 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: is that he's run for mayor three times and never 363 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: passed the thirty percent threshold. He has zero, literally zero 364 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 4: chance of winning, and him staying in this mayorial race 365 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: proves one thing that he cares more about his followers 366 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 4: online about his own stature in society than he does 367 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 4: every day in the orcers who actually need someone that's 368 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 4: not a full on Marxist to run this city. And 369 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 4: so I think he would gain a lot more respect 370 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 4: by dropping out. People would have much more respect for him, 371 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 4: and if anything, you'd have a much higher chance to 372 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 4: run again in four years with people having the knowledge 373 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 4: that he put New Yorkers over his own. 374 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: Gain and benefit. 375 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 4: And so I think, you know, Slee one needs to 376 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 4: drop out the zero chance that he wins. And this 377 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: isn't me ripping into him or thinking that he's a 378 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 4: bad politician and that his policies are bad. 379 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: It's simply looking at the fact that. 380 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: He's run three times and lost badly every single time. 381 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: In terms of Cuomo and Adams, they both have their 382 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 4: respective issues, but I think Adams gets a lot of 383 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: slack for certain scandals that he's had. But at the 384 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: end of the day, New York City has been doing 385 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: well under Eric Adams. I mean, we just came out 386 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: of the Blasio ruined the city and it doesn't. 387 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 3: In four years. You can't just solve all the problems 388 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: of New York City. 389 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: And to be fair, I think Eric Adams, I don't 390 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 4: think he's done anything monumental to help the city or 391 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: fix the city. 392 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: But has he done anything to make it worse? 393 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: No, And I'd rather have someone that doesn't make the 394 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 4: city worse than Zoron Mumdani, who, by every metric possible 395 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: unless you live in an alternative universe where free everything works, 396 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 4: it's just not going to do anything to help the city. 397 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: And my biggest palm with his whole Mamdani craze is 398 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 4: this notion that he's sticking it to the elites, that 399 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 4: he's the man of the working class. When you look 400 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 4: at poll after pols who actually voted for Zoron, it 401 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: was the college educated, white, rich liberals that voted for 402 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 4: He is supported by the elites. 403 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: The elites are voting for him. 404 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 4: It was the black and brown communities, it was the 405 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: LATINX communities, it was the lower the lower class communities 406 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 4: that voted overwhelmingly for Andrew Cmo, because what do those 407 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 4: communities know? What are they product is predicated on individualism, 408 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 4: on merit, on earning what you have, not perpetually just 409 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 4: taking more and more from the working man and redistributing it, 410 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: which will never work ever and has been proven ever 411 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: to work. And so there needs to be some sort 412 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: of reorganization in messaging and framing and exposing that Zolon 413 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: isn't a man of the working people. He's a man 414 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 4: of the college educated white elite that feels somehow guilty 415 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: that they're rich. And so rather than just donating it 416 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: to charities, which is what any common sense person does, 417 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 4: they want the government to tell them to give up 418 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 4: their money. And a lot of people don't want that 419 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 4: to happen, specifically immigrants who need to make money to 420 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 4: provide for their family to lower class communities can't afford 421 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: just money being taken out of their paycheck to be redistributed. 422 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: And so I think it's you know, I think it's 423 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 4: a scary time for New York City, and I hope 424 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 4: that Guomo, Adams and Sliwa the the humility for two 425 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: of them to drop out prior to you know, let's 426 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 4: say a month and a half outside of the actual election. 427 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: Then the way you talk, man, you might have to 428 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: run for May when you're old enough. 429 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: I agree with every single thing you said. 430 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: You said it in a way more eloquent way than 431 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: I talk about it, because it's so crazy to me, 432 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: and it's so frustrating, and it's. 433 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: So surreal to me. 434 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: And my wife told me the other day, you keep 435 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: asking everybody who do you think is going to win? 436 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: And everybody keeps telling you that Zora on the Moron 437 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: as of right now, is going to win. 438 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: Why do you keep asking? 439 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: Because I am so baffled that we're even in a 440 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: point where somebody like that could be in the game. 441 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: You know that it's even like a question, and it 442 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: would hurt me in my heart. I'm never gonna leave. 443 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 2: I'm never one of these like I'm gonna leave New York. 444 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: I'm not letting this guy run me out of New York. 445 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: And I really encourage a lot of other New Yorkers 446 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: if this does happen, do not leave New York. This 447 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: person cannot run true New Yorkers out of New York. 448 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: It would just be an embarrassment to me. It would 449 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: be an embarrassment to me. It's already embarrassment that he's 450 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: he's in contention, but I guess I have to start preparing. 451 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: For the worst. 452 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: I want to talk about you on Twitter because you 453 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: are I believe we met on Twitter. 454 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: I know we physically met in Israel. The first time was. 455 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: In in Israel, in Israel, Yeah, and. 456 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: We had spoken on Twitter and all that stuff. But 457 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: your your Twitter account and it's at el Yakobe y Akob. 458 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: Why if my listeners aren't following, you should absolutely follow 459 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 2: You're so active, so thorough, so much information. 460 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: What's been the craziest thing that's happened on Twitter? 461 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: Aside from meeting of course Michael Rappaport, which I know 462 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: you just like can't even believe that that happened. But 463 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: what's been like the sort of craziest thing, the craziest 464 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: retweet people that have reached out for you. And I'm assuming, 465 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: like any great Jew on Twitter, you're now at the 466 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: level where you're getting death threats in the DMS, which 467 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 2: congratulations and kudos Mazeltov on that, because if you're not 468 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: getting death threats in the DMS, you're really not doing 469 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: it right. 470 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 4: X is like a whole other beast. In my opinion, 471 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 4: I think the app is dying severely. I mean, there's 472 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 4: been report after report that Russian and Iranian boxed hundreds 473 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: of thousands of them thus flooded xers. A report by 474 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: the Telegraph last week that they tried one hundred and 475 00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 4: forty thousand accounts that we're pushing for Scottish intendance in 476 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 4: on x and as soon as the war between Israel 477 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 4: and Iran broke out, all these accounts just suddenly vanished, 478 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: meaning they were Ronni and bots that were actively trying 479 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 4: to sow division within the UK. You have similarly reports 480 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 4: by the Washington Posts, the New York Post, the Wall 481 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: Street Journal, all saying that Islamist accounts and Russian accounts 482 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: are intentionally trying to drive MAGA a wedgend MAGA and collasses. 483 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 4: And this isn't something that's coincidental by any means. It's 484 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: very much intentional. It's very brilliant when you think about it. 485 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: Is it totally have constant accounts pushing disinformation about any 486 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 4: topic on like in the world. If you could have 487 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: the comment section of each post just ripping on the 488 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: United States, just constantly pushing the exact same messaging. 489 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: Over and over again. 490 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 4: Whether or not you know the average person believes it 491 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 4: is not important. What it does is it creates the 492 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: psychology terms called the collective illusion, where you owe what 493 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: people get. Endorphemines, she means happiness when we feel like 494 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: we're in the majority, when our friend group is the biggest, 495 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 4: when we invite people to our birthday party and so 496 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 4: many more people show. 497 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: Up than the other guy. And this is just a 498 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 3: human trait that we have. 499 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 4: And so when you put this on social media, and 500 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: social media is filled with filth ranging from the United 501 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 4: States is the Great Satan to Israel is the Devil 502 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: and everything in between. It creates this collective illusion where 503 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: the average person sees a post of this morning, I 504 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: saw a post that N'tagne who said in nineteen seventy 505 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 4: that he can't wait to squeeze dry America, and then 506 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: tick it to the courtage just a complete lie that 507 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: Nathaniel has never said to post out thirteen thousand likes. 508 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 4: So even if your average person knows the down that 509 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: it's not true, there's always going to be that that 510 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 4: grain of doubt in their mind of oh wait, did 511 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 4: Nita I will actually say that, And that's the entire 512 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 4: It's all about demoralizing individuals to break down everything they've 513 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: conceived before their common sense. And it's a Soviet tactic 514 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 4: and it's working incredibly on social media, specifically on access. 515 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: There's free speech one hundred percent, one person, one account. 516 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 4: It can't be one government one million accounts. And I 517 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: have two simple solutions that I don't understand why Musk 518 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: doesn't adopt. Number one, if you have a blue check 519 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: mark on ACX, it's a requirement that you have the 520 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 4: country that you're posting from. Because I don't know if 521 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: you saw this, but there was this one account called 522 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 4: the red Pill Media that posted I'm an American, I 523 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: was born in Razion, not dying for Israel. That guy 524 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: was based in Karachi, Pakistan, zero zero relationship to that 525 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: and States of Americas. 526 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: So number one, you have. 527 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 4: To put your country location if you have a blue 528 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 4: check mark on X. And the other one is banning 529 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 4: accounts from countries where the government doesn't allow the people 530 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 4: to have social media. So for instance, the Chinese government, 531 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: we know for a fact has done it, but a 532 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: Chinese citizen can't even access Twitter. So where are these 533 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: accounts coming from they have to be the CCP that 534 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: is running these accounts, and so that's one sided warfare 535 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 4: that we have right now is that these Chinese boughts 536 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 4: are polluting American minds to think that China is somehow 537 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 4: superior to America. 538 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: But we can't have. 539 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: Americans showing the Chinese people that's free speech, democracy, being 540 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: able to go to a grocery store and actually enough 541 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: groceries on the shelf, not having a social credit system 542 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: where you're not allowed to even take a train if 543 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 4: your social credit scores TOOLA, all these things and until 544 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: one sided warfare. 545 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: And so that's the other solution. 546 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: And then any country which doesn't allow it's citizens on 547 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 4: social media platform, that county should just be black from 548 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 4: the social media platform itself. 549 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: I think those are great, great ideas, and I think 550 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: there could even be more, but I think that those 551 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: are simple asks to make it just kind of have 552 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: some respect and dignity. And then specifically, again aside from me, 553 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: Michael Rapper, reaching out to who are some of the 554 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: other people you've met, the retweets and the sort of 555 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: conversations that you've had positive on your time, your new 556 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: time as an activist on X without. 557 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 4: Saying any names that I don't want to expose anyone. 558 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 4: And you'll understand why is like you said, I probably 559 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 4: get one hundred death threats each day, to the point 560 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 4: where one death threat was literally a photo of my mom, 561 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: not where I live, where my family lives, a photo 562 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: of the front door of it, to the point where 563 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: I had to pay for products to sit outside, which 564 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 4: is still there to make sure that this lunatic doesn't 565 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: actually come to my family's home. 566 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that that happened. 567 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 4: No, No, it's part of it's part of being a Jew, 568 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 4: is what I always telling myself. 569 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: But the rule that I've kept since I downloaded Twitter, 570 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: like a year ago, a year and a couple of. 571 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 4: Months ago, and the rule that I kept since I 572 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 4: downloaded it is I don't care what's popular. I'm gonna 573 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: post what's right, no matter what, and I don't care 574 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 4: who who doesn't need to hear it. I don't care 575 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 4: who it defends. If it's correct, if it's the just way, 576 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 4: if it's morally consistent, if it's logically consistent, and I'm 577 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: gonna post it, and you can't cancel me, because that 578 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: all I'm doing is following the truth. I have one rule, 579 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 4: and it's don't be an asshole. What I mean by 580 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 4: that is there's certain things that people do. They go 581 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 4: out of their way to offend people, and I just 582 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 4: don't engage with that. 583 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 3: There's just no reason to do that. 584 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 4: And so since downloading X, despite all the death threats, 585 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 4: if you go to my comments, you'll see photos of Hitler, 586 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: You'll see people telling you to get back in the 587 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 4: gas chamber, which I'm sure you get. Similarly, the amount 588 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: of DMS I've gotten from people, whether they be famous 589 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 4: actors and actresses, whether they be members of Congress, whether 590 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 4: they be just huge writers like massive substacks, or professional 591 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: athletes just dming me and just being like, I really 592 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 4: appreciate what you're doing and putting your name and voice 593 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 4: out there. And that's what I've realized most is that online, 594 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: and I think people say this but they don't actually 595 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 4: internalize it, online is not in real life. There's no 596 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: connection between what's happening online and what's happening in real life. 597 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 4: And so when I've paid attention to more than getting 598 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: ratioed by the world's biggest anti SEMISU clearly are boosted 599 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 4: Buch is just. 600 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: My follower account. 601 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 4: The fact that I've been able to go from zero 602 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 4: followers on X to one hundred and I think seventy 603 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: thousand follows or is on acts within a year timeframe 604 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 4: means not enough people agree with what I'm saying. And 605 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 4: that's different because you can't get that's on Those aren't 606 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: made up numbers. In terms of followers. What is made 607 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 4: up is the likes that you got. What is made 608 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 4: up is the comments on your thing. But if what 609 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: I've told myself is that if my account consistently can grow, 610 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 4: that means that there's enough people out there who still 611 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: have moral clarity on a bunch of issues. And that 612 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 4: doesn't mean they have to agree with me on everything. 613 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 4: It just means that they find that my content. Number 614 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 4: one is morally consistent, that I'm not scared to post 615 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 4: what I think. And number three, and most importantly, is 616 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 4: it's truthful. 617 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to tell you. I told this when 618 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: I met you. 619 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: You're such a special young man and I really hope 620 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: you're aware of that, and I'm sure your parents couldn't 621 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: be thank you so much prouder of you. I mean you, 622 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: you know, like I said, you're twenty three years old. 623 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 2: I'm fifty five years old. You really inspire me, and 624 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 2: you know, I just love hearing you talk your point 625 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: of view, and you know, so many conversations that I 626 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 2: have with people my age, you know, is about the 627 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: youth and the younger people, and you're one of the 628 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: people who make me feel like, you know, Jews are 629 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: going to be okay. And I really hope you continue 630 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: to you know, grow, be passionate, be fearless, and also 631 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: share with the younger people behind you, because I think, 632 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: you know, I'm an older, you know guy, not that 633 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 2: fucking old, but you know, I think you can really 634 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: you know, inspire and you know, invigorate and educate and 635 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: also you know, make people feel proud to be Jewish 636 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 2: in a time where we're unprecedented times. So I really 637 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: mean that the final thing I want to ask you, 638 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: and it's been so upsetting amongst the fact that as 639 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: of the recording of this podcast, obviously there are still 640 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: fifty hostages in captivity. We are almost at shockingly two 641 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 2: years since October seventh, and there's two Americans, and like 642 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: I said, fifty hostages, and every single thing that's gone 643 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: on you know, with Israel and Iran and you know 644 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 2: the Beepers. I mean, it's been just one thing after 645 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: another after another and the highs, lows, thrills, agony, all 646 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: of it. In this past about week now, the Druze 647 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: people of Syria have been brutalized and you have been 648 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: posting a lot about it. Can you explain and articulate 649 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: what has been happening to the Drews people in Syria 650 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: over the last week. 651 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 4: I guess I'll provide contacts for us in a little 652 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 4: bit of the history. So, the Drums are an offshoot 653 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 4: of Sunni Islam. They practice a slightly different religion. I 654 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 4: don't think that they would consider themselves Muslims, but it's 655 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 4: a different religion. It's an offshoot. It came from Sunni Islam. 656 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 4: And there's about a million Drus in the world. Most 657 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 4: of them live in northern Israel and the go on 658 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 4: in southern Syria. And they've been there for I mean generations. 659 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,479 Speaker 4: The Drews go way back, and the Drews in their 660 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 4: religion have and this will be important when I explained 661 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 4: they have a tenant in their religion, which whoever, whichever 662 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: kingdom or ruler or country they resigne in, they pledge 663 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 4: ultimate allegiance to that ruler, no matter who it is, 664 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 4: whether it be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, it doesn't matter. So 665 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 4: after the fall of Asad, al Shara became Ahman al 666 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 4: shar As the current president of Syria or al Jalani 667 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 4: became president, and a lot of the factions which Asad. 668 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 4: People think that Asad quelled the internal strife within Syria 669 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 4: because there's so many different ethnic groups, from the Drus 670 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 4: to the Kurds, to the Alo Whites, to the Shias 671 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 4: to the Sunnis. Assad didn't just wave a magic wand 672 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 4: and everyone was just at peace. Asad slaughtered half a 673 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: million people, so it wasn't that he kept the peace. 674 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 4: He just slaughtered more people less so that less people 675 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 4: would die, which ultimately resulted in more people dying. If 676 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 4: that makes sense, it doesn't because it's the Middle East 677 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 4: and nothing makes sense. And so after the fall of Asad, 678 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 4: these Drus were repeatedly pulled over while driving and Bedouin 679 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,959 Speaker 4: and Islamists would stop them and literally just beat them, 680 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 4: like beat them. 681 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 3: Unconscious, I mean, horrible stuff. And this has been going 682 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 3: on for months. 683 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 4: And so finally the Dru said, the Druz militia said 684 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 4: this is enough and and retaliated against one of these 685 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 4: Bedouin tribes that perpetrated these these crimes. And ever since then, 686 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 4: starting around five days ago, you've had literal convoys of 687 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 4: massed armed Gihattis roaming the town of Swedia, which is 688 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: the biggest Druze town in southern Syria. And I mean, 689 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 4: you're butchering people, and the most growth I mean isis style, 690 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 4: will beheadings, forcing people to jump off roobs, reports of rape. 691 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 4: There's been apparently over two hundred women and children that 692 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 4: have been kidnapped in the past four days. So I mean, 693 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 4: I mean really just disgusting, depraves things that that are happening. 694 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: And so Israel got a lot of condemnation for striking 695 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 4: the Syrian military headquarters. And the reason that they did 696 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 4: this is these in the first couple of days, it 697 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: was Syrian military personnel that were doing most of the butchery. 698 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 3: It was all Jelani. 699 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 4: It was Al Sharha's men that did this, and Israel 700 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 4: warned them multiple times for all Jelani to call them off, 701 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 4: and they did it. And the reason there's a lot 702 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: of debate right now whether Israel should have done that, 703 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 4: whether it's too far, but the reason that Israel did 704 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 4: it most likely is because the Druids, when they were 705 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 4: the older generation, was born in Syria when it was 706 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 4: occupied by Syria, and so they have more allegiance to 707 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 4: the Syrian government. 708 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 3: Than they do with the Israeli government. 709 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 4: But anyone born post sixty seven, once Israel took it, 710 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 4: has extreme allegiance to the State of Israel. And Drews 711 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 4: joined the IDF in record numbers. Every single day, more 712 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 4: and more are being drafted into the IDF, and so 713 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 4: the IDF has you know, you know, Israel's a democracy 714 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 4: that respects all walks of life, whether they be Jewish, 715 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 4: behind Muslim. 716 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 3: Christian, or Dru's. 717 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 4: And part of that is I mean there's literally a 718 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 4: fence that separates the Majdal Shans, which is the biggest 719 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 4: Drew city in Israel, where that has black rocket killed 720 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 4: children playing soccer. I mean, I stood at that fence. 721 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 4: It's literally a barbed wire fence. On the other side 722 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 4: is where they're literal. I mean, I was thinking to 723 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 4: a Drew's man who pointed to his to a house 724 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 4: on the hill, and I was like, what are you 725 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 4: pointing at? And he told me that's my home and 726 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 4: I was like, what do you mean? He's like, that's 727 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 4: my home. I just haven't been able to go back 728 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 4: because now there's this sense here he goes my brother 729 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 4: lives in that house right there. I haven't seen him 730 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 4: since the annexation of the go on, and so there 731 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 4: was a lot of drus. I mean, thousands of them 732 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 4: actually storm the border into Syria to be with their drews, 733 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 4: brothers and sisters to help them fight against these jihadists 734 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 4: that were just butchering people in the streets and recording 735 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 4: it all. So I guess that's a drawn out answer 736 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 4: of where we are right now. And sense your question 737 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 4: in terms of pro Palestinians and the silence that we see, 738 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 4: I think they've all exposed themselves that they don't give 739 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 4: a shit about human rights. They don't care about women 740 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 4: and children being killed. They just care about hating Israel. 741 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 4: I mean, day after day we're seeing literal I mean, 742 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: what's funny to me, Funny in a more perverse sense 743 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 4: is the amount of lies that I've seen on Twitter 744 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 4: and just other social media accounts then perpetuated. 745 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: Just think about the number of. 746 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 4: Articles October seventh that have gotten a community note by CNN, BBC, 747 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 4: Sky News, all. 748 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,479 Speaker 3: These other media outlets that have just blatantly lied. 749 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 4: I mean the Al Ali hospital bombing back in October 750 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three, where it's in islamichi hot rocket 751 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 4: that hit the hospital parking lot and killed a dozen people, 752 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 4: not five hundred, but they blamed Israel for bombing the 753 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 4: hospital and killing five. And just think about the number 754 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 4: of lives that have been perpetuated by the online discourse 755 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 4: by the media. 756 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 3: If you go on the New York Times website right 757 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: now and. 758 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 4: Look up Drews, I look at the most recent article 759 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 4: is from two days ago, and it describes them the 760 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 4: butchering of innocent Druis and Christians as sectarian upheaval. I mean, 761 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 4: if you go to CNN, you won't see anything. If 762 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 4: you go to the BBC, you won't see anything. If 763 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 4: you go to Stay News, you won't see anything. If 764 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 4: you go to any of these these losers, these towers, 765 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: Meddi Hassan, chenk wig Er, Francesc Albani's Breanna Taylor, I mean, 766 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 4: all these people who've pushed that there's some sort of 767 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 4: humanitarians that have literally yat said a single word about 768 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 4: video after video of women and children being beheaded, raped, 769 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: and it's all on video, it's all true. Unlike some 770 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: of these lies that have been perpetrated, that have been pushed, 771 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 4: they get hundreds of thousands of likes with zero, zero 772 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 4: fact or reality based beyond them either. And so I 773 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 4: think all these people expose themselves. And maybe you're not 774 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 4: seeing it online, but I think it's being translated to 775 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 4: the average person because anyone in the right state of 776 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 4: mind with any sort of moral clarity knows that they're 777 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 4: silence exposes that they don't care at all about human rights. 778 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 4: They care about defending Islamism is entirest organizations. 779 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said. 780 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 2: I appreciate everything you said, and again I think you're 781 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 2: fucking awesome man, and I appreciate you coming on the podcast, 782 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 2: and you know, I'm so glad I got to meet you, 783 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 2: and I just, you know, wish you nothing but the 784 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 2: best going forward with everything you're doing in your young life, 785 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: and keep kick ass, keep being a voice, keeping tenacious, 786 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 2: keep you know, stuffing your brain with facts and history 787 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 2: and all that stuff and sharing it because you're really, 788 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 2: really good at it, and like I said, you inspire me, 789 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 2: and hopefully you're getting a chance to inspire other people. 790 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure you are, so I appreciate it, y'all to 791 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: come on the other podcast. 792 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 4: I appreciate you, and I appreciate you being one of 793 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 4: the it's caught the few voices in Hollywood with any 794 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 4: sort of voice and moral clarity and not caring about yeah, 795 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 4: the haters, the comments, anything anything else. And I think 796 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 4: the abs what's most important. I think if history has 797 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 4: shown us anything is that. 798 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 3: The good guys always win. 799 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 4: I'm very bullish on the future of Jews, even though 800 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 4: there's a bunch of hatred right now. If history has 801 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 4: taught us anything it's that we know in a hundred 802 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 4: years from now, we're still going to be on this planet, 803 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 4: and history is going to judge those who were silent 804 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 4: more than they'll judge those who who were actually perpetrating 805 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 4: the anti Semitism. 806 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 3: And I think that's and the story of the entire history. 807 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 4: I look down more upon those who didn't speak out 808 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 4: against the Nazis that I do the Nazis themselves, because 809 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 4: the people who didn't speak out just. 810 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 3: Watch what happened, like cowards. 811 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 4: And so I think similarly today there's a lot of 812 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 4: cowards that I need to start speaking up and they 813 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 4: know it too. 814 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 2: Yah Yah Kobe twenty three years old with the voice 815 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: of a grown ass man. 816 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to share your social media so people. 817 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 2: Could follow, get inspired by you, and have a great summer, 818 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 2: and I'll talk to you soon. 819 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much, Michael, great seeing. 820 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm done. 821 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 2: I want to thank you y'all for joining me on 822 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 2: the Iron Report Stereo podcast one more time. 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