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Speaker 2: M hm h m. Hey everyone, it is between the

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Speaker 2: Dream Racing. Then you are listening to Eyes up there

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Speaker 2: with the line Lately the network. Before we're leaving the podcast.

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Speaker 2: As always, I am joined them from this chat. What's up?

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Speaker 3: What up? What going? How are you living?

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Speaker 2: I'm living large?

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Speaker 3: We too, loving, loving life.

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Speaker 2: Love and life. How's your summer going?

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Speaker 3: Oh it's great. Fun in the sun, you know, digging

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Speaker 3: the heat, digging the cool weather that passed through here

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Speaker 3: this last week. Yeah, it's been uh yeah, it's been

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Speaker 3: a breeze awesome. I can't wait for fall birthday not

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Speaker 2: Having another party that I'm not invited to.

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Speaker 3: I haven't planned it yet, but if I if I

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Speaker 3: plan one, I'll be sure to tell you.

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Speaker 2: The day after, I'll be sure to tell you I'm

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Speaker 2: not coming. But thanks anyway for.

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Speaker 3: The invite your yearly tradition.

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Speaker 2: At this point, yes, this is six years in the making. Perfect.

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Speaker 3: Every thing's all good. How about yourself?

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Speaker 2: Not bad? Not bad? Have the weekend off. We're recording

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Speaker 2: on a Friday this week, so we're gonna do some

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Speaker 2: swimming tomorrow. I think it's going to be hot. Get

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Speaker 2: some food in, watch some movies. Just the very uh,

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Speaker 2: very leisurely kind of weekend. I like those.

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Speaker 3: I did four go trivia tonight. Mmmm for my obligations

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Speaker 3: to eyes up here.

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Speaker 2: Were you going to go to a bar for it

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Speaker 2: or were you having like a house party?

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Speaker 3: No, it is my monthly winery.

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Speaker 2: Trip the wine. That's right.

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Speaker 3: We turned the winery into the bar.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: We bring it. We bring the house down down, we

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Speaker 3: bring it down. But last month, a little bit of

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Speaker 3: controversy at the old trivia night. Oh yeah, yeah, No,

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Speaker 3: what the hell was it? Like? Either it was called

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Speaker 3: like you didn't learn this in school or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Like it was something like you didn't learn this in school,

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Speaker 3: or you may not have learned this in school, or

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Speaker 3: something like that. So they in school, Yes, that's the one. Yes.

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Speaker 3: So it went from like pop culture music and movies

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Speaker 3: And my team, which is usually the top team in

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Speaker 3: but they swerved us. So it's usually this was supposed

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Speaker 3: to the eighth out of nowhere. What the hell's that about?

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Speaker 3: So they lost me out of sheer incompetence and bed

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Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha. Well sorry you had to miss it, but

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Speaker 2: you know, priorities ISoP here comes first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the ringing yeah to answer it, of course. Well

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Speaker 2: that show was titled WWE Unreal, Unreal, and it was

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Speaker 2: So I said, you know what, let me sit down

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Speaker 2: And you know, there's a million people who have you know,

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Speaker 2: because this is what it is pretty much, it's a

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Speaker 2: So kind of, you know, watching this is kind of

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Speaker 2: and kay Fabe's going out the window and somebody will

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know, the boys were just hot

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Speaker 2: And then after the show we take a selfie together

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Speaker 2: holding a beer, and then we put it online and

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Speaker 2: know why, in twenty twenty five, we're all smart marks

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Speaker 2: we all know the inner dealings of the business. We

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Speaker 2: really enemies. And I'm not trying to install anybody's intelligence

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Speaker 2: by saying, you know, back then it wasn't a work,

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Speaker 2: you know, in a way, I feel like this takes

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Speaker 2: the like we know everything now, we know how it works,

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Speaker 3: That's a great assessment. Wow, Yeah, I don't know even

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Speaker 3: know how to follow that one right away. Beyond the

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Speaker 3: because I got to see what the WWF production looked

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Speaker 3: they literally explained it with graphics and breakdowns, and that

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Speaker 2: It just you know, it just takes away from the performance.

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Speaker 2: Like when you saw the gorilla position, okay, and you

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Speaker 2: You're gonna do that. If you didn't know this was happening,

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Speaker 2: That's another thing. You know, you're hearing certain things were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your grandma can watch this now and be smart

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Speaker 3: Royal Rumble finish was booked. Yeah, and that they thought

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Speaker 3: I think it's because everybody wants to love everybody, and

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Speaker 3: was a little nauseating after a while. So that's that's

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Speaker 3: how I would switch it.

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Speaker 2: Huh, Well, your dreams about going back there and work

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Speaker 2: and just got it.

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Speaker 3: Listen, trips, listen, I'll call them trips, I'll call them

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Speaker 3: h I'll call them Hunter, I'll call him all, I'll

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Speaker 3: call whatever he wants me to call whatever you want

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Speaker 3: you to call him.

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Speaker 2: Better it, don't call him at all. He ain't answered

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Speaker 2: for you. Yeah. Overall, I mean again, it's great, and

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00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: nobody does it better than WWE. Their production values are

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00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: through the roof, off the charts awesome. I just feel

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00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: like they they pulled the curtain back too much for

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Speaker 2: the average fan, and now everybody knows everything, you know,

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00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: everybody's a know it all, So for me, just a

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00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: little too much information out there, but enjoyable nonetheless. So

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00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: if you haven't watched it, I suggest you do. It's

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00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: it's a it's an easy watch too. At the time

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Speaker 2: flew By, I think we watched like I think we

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Speaker 2: watched all the episodes within like a two day span

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Speaker 2: or something. So good series. But uh, just man sae something,

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Speaker 2: you know, are we going to see a Triple h

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Speaker 2: and Stephanie's home movies, like videos from their wedding and stuff?

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Speaker 2: Is that next? Are they gonna do like personal like

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes of real life?

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Speaker 3: Maybe when Grandpa Vince comes back.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't know. Maybe do you really

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Speaker 2: think anyone wants to see him?

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Speaker 3: Maybe if we watched the TMZ Hulk Hogan special.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw that. That's a that's another thing

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Speaker 2: coming off, Like that's it?

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Speaker 3: Why he slowly? I told you he's slowly gonna be

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Speaker 3: coming back him?

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Speaker 2: It's Alexa Bliss, is it? Paulovac? And then Charlotte Flair's.

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Speaker 3: Uh I didn't see that was Triple h gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be on the special, and I thought I saw his name.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not, I didn't. I didn't notice if he was,

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Speaker 3: but I saw Vince.

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Speaker 2: What are we gonna get from it? Are we gonna

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Speaker 2: get just clips of the hulkster is from WrestleMania three

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00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 2: Slam and Andre like the biggest nWo Turn, And then

473
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna get each guy or girl telling us what

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00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: Paul Kogan meant to them. That's what the show's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm crying already.

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Speaker 2: Really, I'm not even gonna watch that.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody wants to hear Vince just say he

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Speaker 3: was the greatest he you know, I just no mustache, Vince.

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00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: The mustache is gone.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't. I don't even think I want to

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00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: watch it. To be honest with you, I don't know.

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00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: I might cave, but as of right now, I got

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00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: better things.

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Speaker 3: I would say. That is a Twitter clip.

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Speaker 2: Watch Are you gonna watch it? No?

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Speaker 3: I'm going to see whatever comes up on Twitter. If

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Speaker 3: it comes up as anything worth the damn, I will

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Speaker 3: go out of my way.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's gonna come up. All the quotes

490
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: from the superstars are going to come up, and that's

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 3: I just want to say, Evince, that's really all I'm

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Speaker 3: interested in.

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Speaker 2: Well, pull the Vince clip and we can do a

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00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: video on it.

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00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: How about that He's the gift that keeps on giving.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Vince has got a lot going on right now.

498
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: Like I said, he's in two court cases. He's juggling those.

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00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: We don't know what Janelle's thinking this week. Where's Johnny Ace?

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00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: No one knows Johnny Ace was at Hulk Hogan's funeral.

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00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Wow, there you go with Vince.

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Speaker 3: Vince Johnny were in the same room.

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Speaker 2: Were they together?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think so. How crazy

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Speaker 2: is that?

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Speaker 3: That was quite the star studded list.

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Speaker 2: Man, Do you think WWE will do a doc on

509
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: this whole fiesco?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. They're doing everything else, the unreal story

511
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: about the doc, of being unreal, of being at Hulk

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Speaker 3: Hogan's funeral.

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00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: No, No, about the Vince McMahon scandal.

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Speaker 3: Oh, oh, you never know.

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Speaker 2: I mean they tend to do everything. Let's pull the

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Speaker 2: curtain on that one.

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Speaker 3: Anything.

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to see what's behind the curtain

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00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 2: on that one.

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00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, Behind Vince's Curtain.

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00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I don't know anyway. You got anything going

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Speaker 2: on that you want to play?

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00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: No, nothing right now, but you know, stay tuned. We

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Speaker 3: got some big things headed your way. St Bruin Stuffs

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Speaker 3: to Bruin.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have something I'd like to start promoting. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be working with Nick from the Captain's

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Speaker 2: Corner August twenty third. We're going to be doing a

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Speaker 2: virtual My good friend Todd Gordon's going to be with me. Ooh,

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Speaker 2: and more information to follow, but I believe start time

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Speaker 2: is going to be six pm on that one, So

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Speaker 2: we're doing the graphics as we speak, and more information

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Speaker 2: will be on my socials, but save the date August

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Speaker 2: twenty third, six pm. We're gonna have eight x ten's

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Speaker 2: gonna be able to kiss those suckers. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: some action figures and micro brawlers and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 2: So again, Todd and I very entertaining duo along with

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Speaker 2: Nick from Captain's Corner. That's my next next appearance. Virtual

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