WEBVTT - Brandi | Betrayal Weekly

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<v Speaker 1>Never ever did I see that coming. Ever, I truly

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was going in to help someone else. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm the in question, what do you mean? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, This isn't a crime. We weren't a crime.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Andrea Gunning. And this is Betrayal, a show about

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<v Speaker 2>the people we trust the most and the deceptions that

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<v Speaker 2>change everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Hindsight's a powerful thing, and we share the stories so

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<v Speaker 1>that hopefully somebody will see it. The light bulb might

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<v Speaker 1>go off.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Brandy Dredge. Her story is unlike anything we've ever

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<v Speaker 2>heard before, and she's never found anyone with the same experience.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about a betrayal that only came into focus with hindsight,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the story of a surprising legal intervention that

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<v Speaker 2>forced Brandy to reconsider her entire life. As you're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>you may think you know where the story is going,

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<v Speaker 2>but everything here is a little more complicated than it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start at the beginning. When she was growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in the eighties in Missouri, you know, a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Home cooked mails, a lot of plan in the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>until the street lights came on and then you had

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<v Speaker 1>to come home.

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<v Speaker 2>Growing up, her parents struggled to make ends meet.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was a hunter. I mean, you grew up

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<v Speaker 1>rural country, so you went out and got the deer

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<v Speaker 1>and the rabbits and the squirrel and that's what filled

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<v Speaker 1>our freezer as far as meat.

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<v Speaker 2>As a treat, her parents would take her and her

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<v Speaker 2>brother to Dairy Queen, but to afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to go out and collect night crawlers, the

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<v Speaker 1>worms from the ground. So we'd go out and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>collect night crawlers and then you'd fill him up in

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<v Speaker 1>the folder's can. Mom would drive us to the bait

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<v Speaker 1>shop and then you'd watch them get weigh out, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that determined how much money you were gonna get.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was always good if you could get like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars, because then that meant we would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get blizzards.

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<v Speaker 2>She grew up in a culture where wives served their husbands,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was the dynamic she observed in her own household.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad, by the time he got home, he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>expected his mills to be there. When his tea glass

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<v Speaker 1>would be empty, you know, you just tap the tea

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<v Speaker 1>glass on the counter, and then that meant I need

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<v Speaker 1>more tea and then she would go fill up the tea.

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<v Speaker 2>She absorbed important lessons from her parents' relationship. The biggest

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<v Speaker 2>one was that her purpose in life was to make

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<v Speaker 2>a man happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Just all the performance based love. That isn't really love,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is what I felt that you were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of Brandy's childhood was spent playing outside with the

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood kids, playing house or recreating TV shows like The

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<v Speaker 2>Dating Game.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'd have the boys get on the one side

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<v Speaker 1>of the house is beyond the other corner and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ask them questions.

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<v Speaker 2>In high school, she joined the cheerleading squad. It made

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<v Speaker 2>her feel like somebody and like she was part of something.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy had a lot of time to herself because her

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<v Speaker 2>dad worked double shifts and her mom was busy managing

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<v Speaker 2>the household.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of us were more rebellious than others and did

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<v Speaker 1>the sneaking around behind her parents' backs.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy would sneak out with her high school boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>I seemed to kind of gravitate towards that bad boy image.

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<v Speaker 2>In her sophomore year, she met a boy who wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not a bad boy at all. Man just

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<v Speaker 1>really treated me like I was gold and special. I

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<v Speaker 1>never felt like he wanted just a body. I felt like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he really cared about me as a person.

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<v Speaker 2>When he left and went off to college, Brandy still

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<v Speaker 2>had another two years of high school.

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<v Speaker 1>And then one day I was getting ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a cheerleading game and he had called and said

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<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to break up with me and Ma

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<v Speaker 1>and I was devastated, so devastated because I, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thought that he's the one. But my friends

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<v Speaker 1>were there to pick me up for the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like trying to cheer me up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, We're going to go to this party afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>at this apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>She agreed to go with her friends, even though on

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<v Speaker 2>the inside she was crushed about the breakup. She felt abandoned.

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<v Speaker 2>The party was at an apartment where two high schoolers

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<v Speaker 2>were living with an older guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I would hear about this apartment because some boys at

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<v Speaker 1>our school had lived with this man, and these boys

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<v Speaker 1>had kind of rebelled from their parents and so they

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<v Speaker 1>were living with him. So I would hear these rumors

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<v Speaker 1>about this apartment, but up until this point I had

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<v Speaker 1>never been there.

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<v Speaker 2>The rumors were about a good looking older guy who

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<v Speaker 2>lived there, and she was curious, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of almost like the celebrity.

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<v Speaker 2>When she got there, she met Gary Richard, a man

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<v Speaker 2>so infamous he had two first names.

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<v Speaker 1>When he walked in, I mean he was stunning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>black hair and it's like hung to his dolline, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was muscular and had these blue eyes that ah

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<v Speaker 1>very physically fit everything. When I saw him, like that

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<v Speaker 1>was it. I just wanted to keep knowing more about him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to interact with him.

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<v Speaker 2>The sting of her breakup was still so fresh, but

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, the prospect of this older guy

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<v Speaker 2>made her forget the pain for a minute. She was

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<v Speaker 2>instantly intrigued. Her eyes followed him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could see from where I was setting in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room he was in the bathroom and he

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<v Speaker 1>was starting to shave his face, and so I went

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<v Speaker 1>down there and was like, I want to shave your face.

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<v Speaker 2>It was forward, flirtatious even, but Brandy was reeling from

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<v Speaker 2>the rejection of the first guy who treated her well,

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<v Speaker 2>the one she thought she would spend the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>her life with. Now Gary Richard was making her feel

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<v Speaker 2>seen and wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>That attraction was just something I couldn't fight against. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I didn't want to fight against it. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted him no matter what. Age didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>come into the equation. I knew he was older, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what that age was.

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<v Speaker 2>She was sixteen, and she found out later Gary Richard

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty four. At the time, the age difference didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even cross her mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he just looked like he hung the moon

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<v Speaker 1>he was hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>But whether she thought about it in the moment or not,

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<v Speaker 2>his age was a part of Gary Richard's appeal.

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<v Speaker 1>When you come across somebody that seems like they've had

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<v Speaker 1>all these life experiences, you feel like, Wow, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>did anything. I haven't even made it out of my hometown.

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<v Speaker 2>He worked as a model for local businesses and bridle shows.

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<v Speaker 2>He had multiple jobs and a car for sixteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old brand He was the epitome of cool. After the

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<v Speaker 2>night they met, she and Gary Richard became an item.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like a conversation of Hey, would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to go out? Would you like to be my girlfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>We were just together. I would lie to my parents

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about where I was going and I would

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<v Speaker 1>end up saying the night with him.

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<v Speaker 2>When she was with him, she felt like a grown up.

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<v Speaker 1>He DJ'ed at a club in town. He would get

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<v Speaker 1>me in and so I'd set up in the little

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<v Speaker 1>DJ booth and then he'd bring me these butterscotch drinks

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<v Speaker 1>from the bar and we would dance, and huh, we

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<v Speaker 1>had so much fun dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>He always seemed in control, like he knew what to

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<v Speaker 2>do next and how to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he had this way about him, the way

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<v Speaker 1>he would talk to people. He had this charm, like

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<v Speaker 1>he could make people do whatever he wanted them to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing about him was he always seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>he had wealth, Like he just carried hisself in a

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<v Speaker 1>way where money never seemed to be an object for

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<v Speaker 1>him and for me, as sixteen, coming from my home

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<v Speaker 1>where we're eating the deer and the squirrel out of

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<v Speaker 1>the freezer, I felt like I had struck gold.

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<v Speaker 2>One night, Brandy's parents found out she'd been sneaking out

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<v Speaker 2>and lying about where she was, so she came clean

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<v Speaker 2>about Gary Richard.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm declaring, you know that I love him, and at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, you know, we had only been together just

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<v Speaker 1>a few months, but you know, professing my love for him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you're not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>keep me from him, and all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Her parents disapproved, but they didn't try to stop the relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>What Brandy didn't tell them were the rumors she'd heard

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<v Speaker 2>about her new boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>He had gotten locked up, He didn't graduate from high school,

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<v Speaker 1>got his ged in prison, had ended up being in

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<v Speaker 1>prison a couple different times for just different things.

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<v Speaker 2>He told Brandy that he had spent a few months

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<v Speaker 2>in prison, but it was on a trumped up theft charge,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the same breath, he explained he had a

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<v Speaker 2>hard life.

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<v Speaker 1>His mom had abandoned him as a child, and his

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<v Speaker 1>siblings and their grandmother raised him.

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<v Speaker 2>She felt for him most of all. She felt like

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<v Speaker 2>she could fix him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then four months after meeting him, I got pregnantje.

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<v Speaker 2>And Gary bought a pregnancy test to confirm it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was positive. The whole time, he stayed calm and collected.

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<v Speaker 1>He just so confidently, like he always does, just knew

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<v Speaker 1>what to do. He just always had a plan.

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<v Speaker 2>His plan was to start a life together and build

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<v Speaker 2>a family. That's what Brandy Wan wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew as long as I had him, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be okay. Like I have you, I love you. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be our family, and we're gonna be okay. As

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<v Speaker 1>long as I have him, my life's gonna be good,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>Next. Brandy had to tell her parents. She wrote them

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<v Speaker 2>a note and left it on her nightstand.

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<v Speaker 1>I was scared because I thought they would disown me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my dad was scary. Of course, they were upset,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't the reaction that I had expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Her dad offered to get her on his insurance plan

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<v Speaker 2>and help her through the pregnancy in exchange for staying

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<v Speaker 2>at home, but Brandy wanted to be with Gary Richard.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to move in with Gary Richard. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted this perfect little family. We'll all be together, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was all I wanted anyways, was just to be

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<v Speaker 1>with him. So I did. But I still promised my

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<v Speaker 1>dad I would finish high school and then I would graduate.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy started her senior year while she was pregnant with

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<v Speaker 2>her son.

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<v Speaker 1>The summer before my senior year, I turned in my

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<v Speaker 1>cheerleading uniforms and then I turned seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>After that, she moved in with him at his apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a few months later, when I was eight

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<v Speaker 1>months pregnant, I heard a knock at the door, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I went to the door and there were two

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<v Speaker 1>detectives standing there. They asked me if Gary Richard was home.

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<v Speaker 2>They were investigating Gary Richard for theft. Not knowing what

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<v Speaker 2>to do, Randy let them in where they collected evidence

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<v Speaker 2>and thanked her for her cooperation.

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<v Speaker 1>You see that stuff on the movies, but to have

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<v Speaker 1>that happening right before your eyes, it's just shocking. And

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Richard comes home and he's not scared like I am.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just calm and confident.

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<v Speaker 2>He denied he'd stolen anything, and Brandy didn't hear from

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<v Speaker 2>the police again about the theft, so she assumed they

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<v Speaker 2>closed the case and life moved on in a big way.

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<v Speaker 2>A few weeks later, their son was born.

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<v Speaker 1>Holding him, it just incredible. It's that kind of love

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't I can't. It's hard to describe. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like my heart's setting on outside of my body and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she made her son a promise.

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<v Speaker 1>What I did know then, you know, even at that

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<v Speaker 1>young age, was that I was going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>best mom I could be for him, that I was

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<v Speaker 1>always going to be there for him, and that I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted him to be safe.

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<v Speaker 2>Sitting in that hospital room holding her new baby, Brandy

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<v Speaker 2>was blissfully unaware of the chaos that would follow them.

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<v Speaker 2>A few days after they got home from the hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Richard was charged with theft. He told Brandy he

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<v Speaker 2>was innocent, but he was already on probation, so his

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer wanted to show the judge that Gary Richard was

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<v Speaker 2>now a family man. They all went to the courthouse together,

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<v Speaker 2>where he entered a not guilty plea.

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<v Speaker 1>The attorney then proceeds to say, if we had got

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<v Speaker 1>married before the court date, it would really help kind

0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.880
<v Speaker 1>of show the judge, you know that he's this change man,

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<v Speaker 1>new baby, new wife, can hopefully help lessen any sentence

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. That was the plan. The plan was we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to get married before he would go in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the judge. So the wedding planning began.

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<v Speaker 2>She started calling around to churches in their area.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I had called one of the churches, the preacher'

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that's under the age of eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Randy was baffled. Before this moment, she hadn't given any

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<v Speaker 2>thought to their age difference.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't make any sense to me because I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're just being kind of closed minded. And

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't want to get married at your church anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize in our state, to get married under

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<v Speaker 1>the age of eighteen, you had to have parental consent.

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<v Speaker 2>So she went to her parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I begged my parents to sign. I used all stops

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm banging a complete and you know that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the right thing to do for my family. So

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<v Speaker 1>then finally my mom gave in. She went up there

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<v Speaker 1>and signed the marriage license, and we got married.

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<v Speaker 2>Randy was seventeen. After Brandy had her son, she and

0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Gary Richard got married. They hadn't planned on it, but

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<v Speaker 2>on his attorney's advice, they decided it would be the

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<v Speaker 2>best thing for the family. Brandy also worked hard to

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<v Speaker 2>graduate high school. She wanted to make sure she had

0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.640
<v Speaker 2>a degree and could make money to provide for her family.

0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:36.360
<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to become another statistic about teenage pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 2>She wanted to defy the odds.

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<v Speaker 1>It just kind of felt like this challenge of yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to show you that that's not going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Me but despite her efforts to start a new life together,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Richards's old habits followed them. He ended up taking

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<v Speaker 2>a plea deal on the theft charge. When it came

0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to sentencing, their plan to get married and show that

0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Gary Richard was a family man one favor with the judge.

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<v Speaker 1>The ploy worked and it did give him a supervised probation,

0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:09.959
<v Speaker 1>which is what we had wanted. We didn't want him

0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.919
<v Speaker 1>to go to prison, so that was a win. And

0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.359
<v Speaker 1>the attorney did his job, you know, he kept him

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<v Speaker 1>from going back to prison. It's like, okay, this time,

0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.719
<v Speaker 1>we're done. Now my family's done with all this and

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<v Speaker 1>we can move forward.

0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.439
<v Speaker 2>But as time went on, Brandy noticed that Gary Richard

0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:33.480
<v Speaker 2>was still hanging out with teenagers.

0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, I'm at home and what are you doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hanging out with them. Oh well, you know

0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.520
<v Speaker 1>so and so, and they wanted to hang out after work.

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<v Speaker 1>When some of those kids were younger than myself at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. It was never people his own age, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'll say it like that, very few people were

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<v Speaker 1>his own age. I think you kind of believe what

0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you you want to believe, you know, when you're looking

0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:01.240
<v Speaker 1>at somebody through the rose colored glasses. Red flags are invisible.

0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.320
<v Speaker 2>For Brandy, their relationship had become bigger than the two

0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of them. Now it was about their son and what

0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:13.440
<v Speaker 2>was best for him. Four years into their marriage, they

0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.040
<v Speaker 2>had saved enough money to move out of the apartment

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<v Speaker 2>where they met and buy a house together.

0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I was just shy of twenty two and started working

0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:27.080
<v Speaker 1>at the local hospital. That I was excited about because

0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that kind of felt like a big girl job.

0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Gary Richards seemed to be growing up too. Their new

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<v Speaker 2>home became a place for them to host family celebrations

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<v Speaker 2>and start traditions of their own.

0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.919
<v Speaker 1>We used to host Halloween parties, We hosted New Year's party.

0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.160
<v Speaker 1>He DJ'ed our parties. You know that they made the

0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:51.760
<v Speaker 1>best funnest garage house parties. Everybody loved our parties and

0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.520
<v Speaker 1>loved decorating. You know. My mom and sister would come

0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:56.040
<v Speaker 1>over and help that. I mean, it was just the

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<v Speaker 1>whole production.

0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Gary Richard even organized Halloween hay rides for all the

0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:01.840
<v Speaker 2>kids in the neighborhood.

0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.520
<v Speaker 1>He would hook up the little trailer thing and we

0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.320
<v Speaker 1>would do the bell the hey and have the hot

0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:13.439
<v Speaker 1>chocolate and drive the kids around the neighborhood that was

0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:14.880
<v Speaker 1>cool and everybody loved it.

0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.359
<v Speaker 2>And he really showed up as a father to their son,

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.920
<v Speaker 2>like volunteering as a little league coach and teaching him

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<v Speaker 2>how to ride a bike.

0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember watching him run up the road, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when they do that where they hold the back

0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.719
<v Speaker 1>of the seat, or one time he built him a

0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.199
<v Speaker 1>bunk bed. My son had always wanted that, and so

0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:38.520
<v Speaker 1>that was yeah when I saw that, like him being

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 1>this dad that almost seemed picturesque, the dad liked that

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:45.919
<v Speaker 1>would be on the TV. All I ever wanted was

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.040
<v Speaker 1>my family to look like that.

0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:52.040
<v Speaker 2>In those first few years their marriage felt strong.

0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:54.399
<v Speaker 1>He would say like, you're the only one for me,

0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and he would tell me how much he loved my family.

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:00.639
<v Speaker 1>You know that it felt like the family he never had.

0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, That's why I stayed. That's why I loved him.

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.080
<v Speaker 1>That's why because it was my family. No matter how

0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it looked or what else happened, you stay because that's

0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 1>your person and you just do life with them.

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.679
<v Speaker 2>The main struggle in their marriage was around money. The

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.960
<v Speaker 2>couple was constantly under financial stress. When they had first

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.800
<v Speaker 2>started dating, he'd made it seem like he had money

0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:31.280
<v Speaker 2>but she quickly discovered that wasn't really the case.

0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, he doesn't have the kind of money he's making

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<v Speaker 1>it out to seem.

0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Their bills and loans were piling up.

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Everything's robed Peter to pay Paul, and then he would

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 1>jump jobs, and there wasn't that consistent income always. So

0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 1>then it was like me trying to kind of figure out, Okay,

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.119
<v Speaker 1>how are we going to pay this one this disconnect notice,

0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:57.879
<v Speaker 1>and so then I'm trying to research and find the ways,

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, always kind of to survive.

0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:08.320
<v Speaker 2>As their marriage progressed, Gary Richards started putting Brandy down, insulting.

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Her the snide little comments. You know, you make fun

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of my voice, you make fun of my stretch marks,

0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, the different little jabs here and there that

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<v Speaker 1>I accepted it as that's just who he is. You

0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:23.400
<v Speaker 1>either love him or you hate him. That's just who

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.399
<v Speaker 1>he is. You know, like he's he's gonna make jokes

0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>about me. This is the sacrifice that we make for

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the family. This is the sacrifice that you make as

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:32.520
<v Speaker 1>his person.

0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:35.720
<v Speaker 2>This wasn't the same guy she met when she was

0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 2>sixteen who made her feel like the center of his world.

0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Brandy was always trying to get that version of him back.

0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.639
<v Speaker 2>One day, nine years into their marriage, they were taking

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.639
<v Speaker 2>their son and his friend, I'll to celebrate The kids

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.919
<v Speaker 2>had gotten straight a's in the fourth grade. As the

0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 2>family van was backing out of the driveway, they were interrupted.

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:03.480
<v Speaker 1>There was two sheriff cars blocking hard drive. And you know,

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 1>so I look at him obviously, you know, like what

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:07.840
<v Speaker 1>are they? You know, but you got kids in the

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 1>car looking at you, so you know, it's like some

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>of our communication was more like just looking at each other,

0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, saying stuff without saying stuff because you're trying

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.399
<v Speaker 1>to now not want to scare these kids.

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.679
<v Speaker 2>Gary Richard got out of the car to speak with

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 2>the police while Brandy stayed with the kids.

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>And then he walked back towards the car, and then

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I got out and he told me that they were

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.199
<v Speaker 1>serving him a restraining order and that there was some

0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 1>allegations made against him and they wanted him to go

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to the station because they needed to ask him some questions.

0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Gary Richard told Brandy he had no idea what this

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.400
<v Speaker 2>was about, but he was willing to cooperate. He loved

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Brandy and the kids, and headed to the police station.

0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.639
<v Speaker 1>He called from the gel later and told me the

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>teenager had accused him of touching her inappropriately and had

0:22:56.840 --> 0:23:00.680
<v Speaker 1>told her mom. Her mom went to file the restraining

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 1>order against him, and then that's what started this investigation.

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 2>The allegations came from a fifteen year old girl. Gary

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Richard denied it. He told Brandy it was a misunderstanding.

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:19.199
<v Speaker 1>He told me that he didn't know why she said it.

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>He said that maybe she thinks I'm cute, Maybe she

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>made up a story about me to look cool in

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>front of her friends.

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 2>She believed him, even though she had a gut feeling

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 2>that something was wrong.

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not normal. None of this is normal.

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Then Thanksgiving ruled around. They had planned to spend the

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>holiday with Brandy's Anne.

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>And he acted very different. He didn't want to come,

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:48.360
<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to go.

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 2>That night, Gary Richard called Brandy and told her he

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 2>was camping out for Black Friday deals. So Brandy was

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 2>home alone with the house to herself.

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:02.280
<v Speaker 1>And some that I can only describe is just this

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>divine kind of guidance. I started to replant all the

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>ways he didn't seem like hisself.

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Brandy's intuition told her to check his laptop.

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I was able to get into his computer, and when

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 1>it pops up, there are communications with teenage girls, and

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 1>there's photos of people.

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 2>She was seeing evidence with her own eyes. Suddenly, the

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.360
<v Speaker 2>allegation from the fifteen year old girl no longer seemed

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 2>like a misunderstanding.

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I can no longer believe. So at the time, I thought, Okay,

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to print out these papers because if I

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>have this, he can't deny it. So I printed all

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>those things out and knew that at that point, Okay,

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>now my exit plan is going to begin of how

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to get him out of our lives.

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 2>She hid the printed pages in a cabinet. Then she

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>gathered up all his belongings, packed them into her car,

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>and drove to his workplace.

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>And pulled up outside the door. And then I unloaded

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>his stuff, and then I called him and told him

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>it was starting to rain and he might want to

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>get his stuff. And so for me, powerful moment, because

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 1>usually he would have been able to talk me out

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of that, and he didn't. He didn't at all. And

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I told him he wasn't coming back to our house.

0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was firm in it. I was powerful,

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it felt like for one of the

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>first times, you know, like I'm actually in control.

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 2>And she finally had the proof. She had the pictures

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 2>of what he was doing online, but when it came

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:42.360
<v Speaker 2>time for her to bring that evidence to the police,

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:46.479
<v Speaker 2>she went to grab the pages and found that they

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:47.120
<v Speaker 2>were missing.

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where the papers went. He had came

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>back into the house and slit the water bed and

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>those papers were gone.

0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 2>While she was out, Gary Richard went to the house,

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 2>found the photos she'd hidden, and destroyed her bed. She

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 2>needed to figure out her next move. Even with him

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:11.199
<v Speaker 2>out of the house, she no longer felt safe.

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I come out of work one day, my tires flat.

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Later I would find out he flattened the tire.

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Another time, she was driving through a busy intersection when

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 2>her car seized up and died in the middle of

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 2>the road.

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Only to find out that he had put metal shavings

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>into the oil, which then caused the engine to cease up. Yeah,

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>cast our car to break in. We could have been

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>severely injured.

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Her son was in the car with her that day.

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 2>They could have been killed. It proved that Gary Richard

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 2>would do anything to hurt Brandy. The final straw was

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>a night when Gary Richard came over and threatened to

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 2>hurt himself in front of Brandy.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 1>That night escalated so quickly. Thank god, my son was

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>with Sleeps and he slept with fans, and I'm very

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>thankful because he never ever hurt.

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 2>That night, he had a box cutter in his hand.

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Then he would slice his wrist. And you know, now

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be back in control, and I'm going

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to watch him do this because I'm the reason he's

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>doing it.

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>She was afraid for her life. He took her phone

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>and he wouldn't let her leave the house.

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 1>At one point, you know, I tried to get away.

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where I was trying to run to,

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.199
<v Speaker 1>but I crouched down like at the corner of the

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>couch and like he doesn't coming into me when I

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>could fill his breath, nuzzling in my face, like with

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>his scratchy hairs.

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>He was mad, and she told herself that if she

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.679
<v Speaker 2>made it through the night, she'd go to the police

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 2>station in the morning.

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And so the next day I did exactly what I say.

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I went to the police station. They asked me if

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to press charges against him for domestic assault

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and I said yes, so I gave him a statement

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>and then they had me get a restraining order.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Because of the domestic violence charges, they were able to

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 2>arrest Gary Richard again, and this time his bail was

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>much higher. After his arrest, the police reached back out

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 2>to Brandy. The investigation into the fifteen year old girl's

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>allegation was still ongoing. The police wanted to talk to

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Brandy about it.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>So he asked if I would come give a statement

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to help, and so I said absolutely so if I

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>could help them, but again, never thinking anything else other

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>than I'm just going in there to help. At this point,

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe her, and I'm going to go in and

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do all I can to help. So

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I go in there. He tells me to start from

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, asked me when I met him, and we

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>go through all of that, and then he tells me that,

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>including the teen who initially had came forward, there were

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>five girls who were willing to testify that he had

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>victimized them in some way.

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Four more girls were willing to testify the Gary Richard

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 2>had sexually assaulted them while they were underage, but the

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 2>police were struggling with the case. Because they didn't have

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 2>any physical evidence to support their allegations. Without those photos

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 2>and online chats that had gone missing, Randy couldn't offer

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 2>them much.

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I leave and I didn't get very far from the station,

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and my phone rings and he said, you know, can

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you come back. You forgot to find your statement, Okay, yep,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>And so I went back. When I go back in there,

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>he tells me that they spoke to the prosecutor and

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that they're going to charge him, but not for what

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 2>She thought the police would be charging him for assaulting

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>the five underage girls, but she was wrong.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And he said they're going to charge him for you.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I went white. And then he said something that's still

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to this day will forever sick with me. He said,

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I have something that they don't. I have evidence of

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the crime. I have a son.

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 2>After nine years of marriage, Randy went to the police

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 2>to file domestic violence charges against her husband. At the time,

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 2>he was already the suspect of another investigation. Five girls

0:30:56.200 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>accused him of sexually assaulting them. Gary Richard was the five.

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>There was no physical evidence, and the cops hoped Brandy

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>could help their case by providing a statement. She agreed.

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Shortly after, the cops called Brandy back in they would

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>be charging Gary Richard with two counts of statutory rape,

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.719
<v Speaker 2>one count for one of the five girls and another

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>for the statutory rape of Brandy. When she heard this,

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 2>she was in shock. The officer's words didn't make sense

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>to her.

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Clearly, what he did to other people was wrong. I

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't see it for me. I thought, I'm not them,

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like he's my son's father.

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 2>But the police were very direct with Brandy.

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Then he told me that they were charging him for

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>me because I had evidence of the crime. I have

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a son it's DNA, and that with the other girls,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it was their word against him.

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 2>She wanted Gary Richard to go to prison for what

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 2>he'd done to the other girls and for the domestic

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 2>violence against her, but a statutory rape charge in her

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>case didn't make sense to her. She tried to reason

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>with the detectives and they said.

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>That I could take it up with the prosecutor. But

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>with child sex crimes like statutory rape, the state can't

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>choose to prosecute without me because they don't need the

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>victim's consent, and they have up to twenty years from

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>your eighteenth birthday to do so.

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Brandy left the station with her heart pounding in her ears.

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 2>All she could think about was her son and.

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Those words just crime, victim evidence son, crime victim evidence, son.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:51.959
<v Speaker 1>And then it felt like as a mom, you're seeing

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>my son shouldn't be here, like you were saying, my

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>son's a crime, and you know he's not evidence, he's

0:32:59.000 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>my son.

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 2>She said. It was the most destabilizing moment she's ever experienced.

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>This is my life that they're planned with, You know,

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>this is my life. It's not a game.

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Brandy's whole world was built around her role as a mother,

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>a wife, so for the origin of those roles to

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 2>be deemed a crime completely shattered her sense of reality.

0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It just felt like, man, you just erased like my

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>whole life and that it was all wrong.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>It reduced her identity to a simple story, a crime,

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>something that was done to her by him. She'd lost

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>control of the narrative of her life. Brandy called the

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>prosecutor to ask why she and her son had to

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 2>be at the center of Gary Richards's case. The prosecutor

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 2>explained that her son's DNA evidence was the only way

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>to guarantee a conviction against Gary Richard. If Brandy wasn't

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 2>willing to give her son's DNA voluntarily, they could get

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 2>a warrant for it. By the end of the call,

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Brandy had agreed to work with the police.

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>They were going to send a sheriff out to do

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the swab, and I said I didn't want to do

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it at my house, so I had arranged to meet

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>them at my brother and sister in law, and so

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>we did.

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Her son was nine at the time. Randy felt like

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 2>he was too young to hear the facts of the case.

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I told my son that his dad was sick at

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the jail and that they just needed to swab him

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that he wasn't sick too.

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 2>After they processed the evidence, they were able to get

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>two counts of statutory rape, one with me sixteen when

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:46.760
<v Speaker 2>he was twenty four. In the end, that second charge

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't for the fifteen year old's case, the one that

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>started the investigation into Gary Richard. It was for one

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 2>of the other girls, a fourteen year old who said

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Gary Richard groomed and sexually assaul her when he was

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty six. That meant it happened two years into Brandy's marriage.

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 2>The K's brought shock after shock. The local news got

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 2>a hold of the story, making it even worse for Brandy.

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Our local news did a broadcast when he was going

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 1>to court and they even said he would be going

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>to court today for charges on statutory rape with the

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old whom he later married.

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Facing the two counts and the DNA evidence, Gary Richard

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 2>took a plea deal with.

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 1>The DNA evidence. That was kind of the plea, if

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you do that, we'll roll the two up into one

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and then give you the seven year For the two counts.

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>He was sentenced to seven years and had to register

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 2>as a sex offender. As for the domestic violence charge,

0:35:55.520 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>he got fifteen days. Brandy's divorce was expedited. It happened

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 2>at the same time as his criminal proceedings.

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Our divorce hearing was right the day before he was

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>scheduled to be sentenced.

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.240
<v Speaker 2>That was the first time Brandy had seen him since

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>the charges, and when he walked into the courtroom, she

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 2>felt a pang of guilt. She understood that he was

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 2>her abusive ex husband and that he was a predator

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>who had sexually assaulted teenage girls. But when it came

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to her own experience of statutory rape.

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>My mind just could not go there. And I think

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>in some ways, yeah, it's probably your you know, trauma

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and your body trying to just protect you know, you're

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to rationalize a lot of bad things. And I

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>think part of that is the survival mechan you know,

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it is survival.

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>The tipping point for Brandy came later when she received

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 2>a letter Gary Richards sent her from prison.

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>So then I got this letter from him, and in

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it was a five page letter, but the first page

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>he said that there isn't a man that doesn't look

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>at a teenage girl and want to have sex with her.

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>And then it starts clicking that like if you think

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 1>all people think this, this is not right, and it's

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like no, no, no letters, and I'm not accepting the

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>calls from you know, the prison, and just I'm done.

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm done. There's no contact, and there's you know, never

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 1>been Since.

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Then, with Gary Richard in prison, she became the sole

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>provider for her household.

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>At this point, you got to really buckle up your bootstraps.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 2>She trained to get a better job at the hospital

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.720
<v Speaker 2>where she worked, and relied on her community for support.

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 1>But once he went away, just amazing things unfolded, as

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>far as like the kindness of people. My sister and

0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 1>brother in law found a place that we could fix

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:04.280
<v Speaker 1>up up. It was a little, tiny, half bedroom house

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:08.240
<v Speaker 1>and we turned it into three and we all worked

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>on that. It was a labor of love.

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Even though he was in prison, she struggled to escape

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Gary Richard. His voice was still in her head, telling

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>her that this was all her fault.

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I was listening to a Brenee Brown. She was saying,

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>guilt is I did something bad? And shame is I

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 1>am bad? And man? When I heard that, I was like, ah, yeah,

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it is shame. Psychological abuse particularly is so hard to overcome.

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>You don't realize it's happening. You don't realize how slowly

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>pieces of yourself are fading out, and you're losing pieces

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>little by little until there's not really a you left.

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 2>She needed more emotional support, so she started going to

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 2>a women's group better church.

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>The ladies that I thought had these perfect lives because

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>of what they're wearing or just you think they have

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>it all together. And when they would open up and

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>share about the common threads that run through us all

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the ways they feel insecure, the way they feel like

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>not enough. Just hearing that come out of their mouths

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that was so eye opening and freeing at the same time, like, Wow,

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>we're just human beings trying to figure this out.

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 2>It took years of meetings and conversations like this for

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Brandy to fully understand and accept what she had gone through.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 2>She had to go back to when she first met

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Gary Richard.

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Now looking back, even from the very beginning, the fact

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that kids from my high school lived with him, that

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>very first thing, you know what I mean, It's not normal.

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>She now sees this from an adult lens as unhealthy

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 2>and inappropriate. She became grateful for the prosecutor and police

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.720
<v Speaker 2>officers who decided to include her in the charges.

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Now I applaud them because I think they one hundred

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>percent did the right thing, because that took him off

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the street, that protected other girls, And I am so

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>thankful that they could see what I couldn't.

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 2>And she's become an advocate. She works on raising the

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.879
<v Speaker 2>minimum age required for marriage.

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm part of a national coalition to end child marriage

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>as a survivor Ally, I'm actually getting ready to go

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>speak at jeff City at our capital for the ending

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the child marriagecause they're getting ready put that on the bill.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna go next week and give testimony.

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Looking back on her decision to get married at seventeen,

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 2>she sees how that legitimized their relationship and made her

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 2>legitimize it too. Gary Richard's attorney suggested that if they

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 2>got married, the judge might go easier on him. To Brandy,

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 2>that looks different today.

0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I can see the manipulation now, even when the attorney

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 1>suggested getting married I can see grooming. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>form of forced marriage that I would have never seen

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<v Speaker 1>until literally, now that I've been doing this work, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like ah, kind of light bulb moment of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see the manipulation.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty five, Missouri changed the state laws to

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<v Speaker 2>require all parties to be over eighteen, regardless of parental consent.

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<v Speaker 1>So had that law been on the books at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>my marriage would have never been able to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>She started using new words when talking about her experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me a long time, first of all, to

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<v Speaker 1>say that I'm child marriage, sex crimeate, domestic violence survivor,

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<v Speaker 1>like to even say those words took a long time

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<v Speaker 1>because I felt like I didn't have the right to

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<v Speaker 1>call myself that. When I'm going to go speak next week,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say that I married my rapist. Hindsight's a powerful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy wanted to reclaim her story and tell it publicly,

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<v Speaker 2>so she started reaching out to publishers to find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to write a book about her life.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I just thought, you know what, Life's too short.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an investment I want to make into myself.

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<v Speaker 2>She found the perfect copy editor for the job.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I ended up working with gender Coldbaba. She

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to copy edit, and she said, we'll go chapter

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<v Speaker 1>by chapter because if we don't, you'll quit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it's going to get real. And she was right.

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<v Speaker 1>Best advice ever.

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<v Speaker 2>She connected with. She Writes Press, an independent publisher that

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<v Speaker 2>focuses on women's stories. Her book was published in fall

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four and it's titled Girl Uncoded. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the last passage from her book.

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<v Speaker 1>I was no longer ashamed of my life, my home,

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<v Speaker 1>or the choices I had made. I saw the happy

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<v Speaker 1>ending from the beginning. I saw how the DNA of

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<v Speaker 1>my son was the indisputable evidence to hold Gary Richard

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<v Speaker 1>accountable for his actions and bring justice to all the

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<v Speaker 1>survivors of his crimes, including me. I leaned into the

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<v Speaker 1>pool of sunlight on the windowsill, closed my eyes as

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<v Speaker 1>a smile splashed across my face and flooded my body

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<v Speaker 1>with joyful thoughts of being free. I'm proud of it,

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<v Speaker 1>proud of me.

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<v Speaker 2>We end every weekly episode with the same question, why

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to share your story?

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<v Speaker 1>It's to help somebody see what I couldn't. To help

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<v Speaker 1>somebody see sooner, to be able to change their circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>If this can help one person see abuse in a

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<v Speaker 1>different way, see manipulation in a different way, grooming in

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<v Speaker 1>a different way. To help somebody see what I could

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<v Speaker 1>not see, what has taken me so long to see.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why.

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<v Speaker 2>On the next episode of Betrayal Weekly.

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<v Speaker 3>He would tell some of them that he was there

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<v Speaker 3>sold me and that they were twin flames and they

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<v Speaker 3>had a deeper connection. And then I realized, Wow, he

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<v Speaker 3>is not a mentor. He's pretty much a monster. I

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<v Speaker 3>probably should shut the studio down immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we end the episode. I have some exciting news.

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