1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Never told you production of I Heart Radio. Okay, Annie, 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: it is a season we are hitting towards the end 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: of September today recording at the end of September. It's 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: gonna be released in October. And we've been planning this 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: episode for a minute anticipation for the spooky seasons, because 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: we love the spooky season. And yeah, I need to 8 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: know what is the most recent Halloween movie or scary 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: movie you watched? So I've already started my my repertoire. 10 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: I have a big Halloween catalog that I have to 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: work through. So last night I did I feel like 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: we've talked about this all the time. It sounds like 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: we watched it NonStop. But I watched The Conjuring and 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: the Counturing too, I did recently before that, I watched 15 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: Host the Zoom based one and then Fairene Activity one 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: and too Uh, and I watched The New Candy Man. 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like I'm always embarrassed because those 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: are like ones I've talked about before, and I'm always 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: trying to think of, like, what's a new one I 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: could turn people onto. I haven't gotten to that point 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: yet because I am trying to save, like I'm ready 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: for October. I'm like going through some of the ones. 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot already so I can just like, Okay, 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: I've done it, but I haven't watched I don't think 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: i've watched anything new recently. What about you. I've been 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: revisiting the classics. Yeah, I did watch Malignant. We talked 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: about that, man, we talked about that. We won't give 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: any spoilers on any of those. I watched The Ruins 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: for the first time. That was a new one for me, 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: and then I just rewatched Halloween because I was like, 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Halloween coming the original? Do you know Jamie Lee curt 32 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: Is one of her first movies. Watched that, Yeah, and 33 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: I was like, huh, you know and carry You have 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: those girls, the same type of girls in each of 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: these movies, and I really forget how they sound very 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: similar to one another. I had that moment of like, 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: like the giggling and the high pitched voices, which is 38 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: not a bad thing, but it's just interesting how they 39 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: played on this really hard in all those movies, in 40 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: those eras, so I thought that was interesting. I have 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: gotten a copy of the Silent Hill brother. I have 42 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: gotten copy of Silent Hill, so I am getting revved 43 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: up to go to that. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm already 44 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be interesting. So yes, I'm getting ready 45 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: for that because I've been trying to go through all 46 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: of them. So I'm very picky and that I don't 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: want it to be too gruesome. I'm not huge, like 48 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: murder of movies doesn't bother me necessarily, like the slasher films, 49 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: but it would just over the top, like just being 50 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: gross and torture films. I don't love that, so that 51 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: is something I don't do. But because we love the 52 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: horror season, we're going to jump right into it with 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: some delightful stories of ghosts, goblins, which is God's folklore, 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: and some good haunts from around the world. Yes, and 55 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: this was your idea, and I think you had it 56 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: in like August. I was really ready for the season. 57 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: She was very excited about it, like eight August. So 58 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: this is a long time coming, and it was a 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: really fun one. It was a fun one to research. 60 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: There are, like I guess content warning more than trigger warning. 61 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: There are some dark and gruesome themes in here, but 62 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get. I mean, it's urban legends essentially 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, not the movie though, which I 64 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: still haven't seen. UM. And I will say coming through 65 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: these because we have like a big list we were 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: working off of, and I kind of bread over summaries 67 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: of every one of them. And there were some common 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: themes like immediately that popped out to me, like women 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: who can shape shift into animals that was a big one. 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Are are who are in some way part animal, can 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: control the weather and often water. Lots of themes around 72 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: child birth, child death, motherhood, and sexuality that probably surprises nobody. UM. 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Lots of playing on societal fears, which we've talked about. 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: It's kind of a big thing in horror anyway. UM. 75 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: A lot of morality tales stories to keep the use 76 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: in line, like don't do something bad at school, kids, 77 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: or this ghost will come get you. Things that have 78 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: perfect grades apparently is one of the things, right, Yeah, 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: which is interesting And and if you if this is 80 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: like really your jam, you can check out past episodes 81 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: we've done on female monsters. We've done Banshees and Suck 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: You by. UM. I think even the Revenge Women Revenge 83 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: episodes could kind of fit in if you're like really 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: into it, and why women like monsters? Of yes, why 85 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: women like monsters. I think we've even done one past 86 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: hosted one on like vampires specifically serial killers. We've done 87 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: Women Show Killers and Women who Love serial Killers and 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: then Black Widow serial Killers. But all of that being said, 89 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: just like with a lot of those episodes, we tried 90 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: to hunt down the best sources. But these are urban legends, 91 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Like a lot of it depends on you know, oral 92 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: retellings are just things like you can't quite confirm because 93 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: it's just the story that people pass around. A lot 94 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: of it is hearsay um, and that's where some of 95 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: the fun of it is. But just caveat on there 96 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: um And I think, like, well, probably most of the 97 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: time it's very clear. But for pretty much a majority 98 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: of the urban legends that like story that you tell, 99 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: there's no proof of us, Like, it's just the story 100 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: people tell over and over again until you're convinced that 101 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: it did happen. But as a reminder, and each culture 102 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: is different and there's typically more than one variations of 103 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: these guys, we just chose like specific areas to talk 104 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: about that type or that specific folklore. So yeah, and 105 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: I think one of the more famous we will talk 106 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: about it's a little bit about Bloody Mary. Essentially, there's 107 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: a different forms of that all over the world, so 108 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: just that as a reminder. So what you heard is 109 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: obviously going to be different from what they heard, the 110 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: type of thing, and yeah, most of them are not 111 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: necessarily based on any truth, just kind of again, some 112 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: kind of cautionary tale. So the information we get take 113 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: it with a grain of salt. But it was fun. Nonetheless, 114 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: it was yes, because there's so many good stories and 115 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 1: legends around the world. This will be a two parter, 116 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: so any and I decided to go through this massive 117 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: and I'm saying, like a massive list of different types 118 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: of ghosts or haunts or folklore. Um, and we took 119 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: and picked out some of our favorites to talk about. 120 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, here's some of our favorites. Let's let's start. 121 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna start this one just because I was like, oh, yeah, 122 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: I've seen this, which is the Korean virgin ghost. Y'all. Man, 123 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: I think it's only fitting that we start with the 124 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: cautionary tale because this is about the poor young virgin. 125 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: And yes, pretty much we're talking about the girls, although 126 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: there is a version of the male virgin and what 127 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: they have to do for them, But I don't see 128 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: them haunting people from what I get. I know there 129 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: has been some cultures that talk about the fact that 130 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: they will curse the family, so like it's not about 131 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: necessarily the part the ghost or the coming back of 132 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: but that in curses the entire family. YadA, YadA, YadA, 133 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: that's whole YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA whatever. And yes, these 134 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: are the young women who died with no purpose nor 135 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: any meaning because they died tragedy of tragedies as single virgins. 136 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Oh no. Um. So, according to old folklore and legends 137 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: within the Korean culture, the many ghosts that exist in 138 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: these areas are typically made up of young, unfulfilled women 139 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: because they were not able to fulfill their responsibilities as 140 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: a mother or a wife and so have resentment that 141 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: makes them unable to move on into the peaceful afterlife. 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so it's very very important to be married apparently, 143 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: and again this is very old legend, more so than 144 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: currently we know. Things have changed, but this still exists 145 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: in that they think, and I believe they're called guscians, 146 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: which are the ghosts in Korean, So just so you know, 147 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: and if I mispronounced that, I'm trying, y'all. I'm trying 148 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: to be real Korean. It's hard. And if they appear 149 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: to you, they are often seen in white handbocks, which 150 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: is Korean traditional apparel called sobuck, which is specific to 151 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: morning attire. And of course their hair is down because 152 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: they have to untie their hair as a sign that 153 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: they were indeed never married, so the married women would 154 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: have their hair tied up right. And sometimes when they appear, 155 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: they may be shedding tears of blood or covered in blood, 156 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: so I don't know, I think that might be for 157 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: the extra spa because none of these tales talk about 158 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: them dying tragically as in like murdered or anything, just 159 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: dying without purpose essentially. And often times when these ghosts appear, 160 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: they may attach themselves onto young girls, which made those 161 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: girls become resentful and unable to get married as well, 162 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: in which turns into more sad ghosts, right, because that's 163 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: how it goes. And of course, how does one keep 164 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: from being haunted by a bitter, unfulfilled virgin ghosts? Well, 165 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: according to the Wikipedia part of how to stop this ghost. 166 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: All tra dishes may include taking quote dolls emphasizing the 167 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: male genitalia which were made of straw and put it 168 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: in the coffin, or dolls dressed in men's clothing and 169 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: then bury upside down, so you turned them so that 170 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: they really can't come out. Uh. Then thorns were placed 171 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: around the coffin and buried. The reason for putting a 172 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: male doll emphasizing the genitals in a coffin or wearing 173 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: men's clothes is to comfort them for making contact with 174 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: men even after they die, and burying the coffin's upside 175 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: down is to block the virgin ghost from coming out. Thoroughly, 176 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: this is thoroughly at the end. I don't know why 177 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: this is the quote from that um so they have 178 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: a big plans on how you do this. And of 179 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: course yes, this is also one of those cautionary tales. 180 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: This is what happens to unlucky women who can't give 181 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: the husbands. And you don't want to become this girl, 182 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: so you need to go find your man so you 183 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: love your life will be fulfilled. Of course, I don't 184 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: think anyone cleans to that. And apparently there's towns and 185 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: areas where they have ghost festivals are interesting in Korea 186 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: and you can visit these areas as well. And some 187 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: of these like rituals, I think they do in order 188 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: to keep the ghosts from coming to them or at them. 189 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: So there you go, there you go. That's interesting. I 190 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: mean again, yeah, that those are fears we've talked about of, 191 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: like you know, the single lady ending up alone, the spinster, 192 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: how dreadful, how sad. Yeah, and I also find it 193 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: interesting like the male doll, the male genitalia, like very 194 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: heteronormative urban legends. Oh. Absolutely, again you're also supposed to 195 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: have children. Uh, yes, it was a great fear. Yes, 196 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: all right. Let's talk about the legend of Madame koit Koi, 197 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: the story of the ghost who haunts boarding schools that 198 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: is popular in Nigeria, South Africa and Ghana that originated 199 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: in the nineties. Okay, so there are yes, Like you said, Samantha, 200 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: there are a few stories about Madame koit Koi. One 201 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: of the most popular ones goes that Madame koit koy 202 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: was a beautiful teacher at a secondary boarding school often 203 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: told as an all girls boarding school, specifically, her shoes 204 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: of choice were these red heels that would make a 205 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: sound like ki as she walked. Madame koit Koy was 206 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: a cruel teacher, often abusing students for no reason. As 207 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: the story goes, the students despised her. Eventually, she was 208 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: fired after she slapped a female student in damaged her ear. 209 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: After this, Madam coy Coy left in a fury and 210 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: on her way home, died in an accident, but not 211 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,239 Speaker 1: before she promised to get revenge on her ex students. 212 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: It didn't take long at all before students reported hearing 213 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: the coy of her heels roaming the halls and toilets 214 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: at night, and another version of the tale her her 215 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: own students bound and gagged her as she was leaving 216 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: one day and beat her to death. The students involved 217 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: were picked off one by one until only one remained, 218 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: who swore he could hear the clicking of her heels. 219 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: No one believed him, and he was found dead soon after. 220 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: The school closed and the other students transferred, spreading the 221 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: legend with them. And yes, it probably goes without saying, 222 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: but again this has never been verified with truth and 223 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: almost certainly is firmly an urban legend, and nothing more, 224 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: but still the urban legend Persists is very popular. Another version, 225 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: students decided to play a prank on Madam koit Koy 226 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: and locked her in a cupboard, one red heel falling 227 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: off as she was dragged into this cupboard, where she 228 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: was forgotten about and died. She was pregnant at the time, 229 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: and as she thought of her child dying, she swore 230 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: to get revenge on all the students who locked her 231 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: in the cupboard. They would know what it was like 232 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: to be locked in the dark, dying and screaming with 233 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: no one to hear you. In this version, you only 234 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: hear the clicking of one high heel. When you hear her. 235 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: You're supposed to close your eyes until the sound passes, 236 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: or you will end up in the cupboard next to her, 237 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: locked in clawing at the door with no one to 238 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: hear you. Many similar stories do exist, sometimes with different 239 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: names Madam Oke and Ghana, Miss Cone Coco in Tanzania, 240 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: Pinky Pinky and South Africa, but all they all kind 241 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: of involve a vengeful teacher that serves to keep students 242 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: in mind from going out past curfew again. These kind 243 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: of like morality tales and Ghana One story goes that 244 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: she was a teacher at a school with some troublesome students. 245 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: One day, she took off one of her heels while 246 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: running after a student, waving them in the air. She 247 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: chased him across the street. She didn't see the car coming, 248 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: and it rammed into her, killing her instantly, sending the 249 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: red heel flying. The ghost takes the form of a 250 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: single red shoe, screaming where is my shoe? To what 251 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: you're supposed to respond, Madam hoide and she'll leave you alone. 252 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: These are the kind of things I would do, even 253 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: if I didn't really believe it, I would still do 254 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: it because I don't want to take the risk exactly. 255 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we take these cautionary tales and we're like, okay, 256 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: so what is the solution. Is there a solution? Okay, 257 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: now we know I want to fight you exactly, made 258 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: to be prepared. And meanwhile, South Africa's version Pinky Pinky 259 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: targets girls specifically, and specifically on top of that, girls 260 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: wearing pink underwears threatening to rape them. The creature, often impartment, 261 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: part woman, part animal, is invisible to boys. Only girls 262 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: can see her. People have actually looked into the origins 263 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: of this one and why impacts only girls, and they 264 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: suspect us to do with the disappearance of girls in 265 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: the area and the dangerous girl's face, and or that 266 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: the myths was created to keep girls inside and off 267 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: the streets. So yeah, that's madam koit koy um. If 268 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: any listeners, no any versions of any of these stories 269 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about, please right in. Yes, I would love 270 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: But okay, so now since we've heard man, we've got 271 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: through different countries already. I love it, and we're gonna 272 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: cop over to the wonderful Highlands and we're looking at 273 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: the legend of a very vampire succubus. I'm like, there 274 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: are so many things in this and what a wonderful combo. 275 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: And to be honest, after reading some of these, I'm like, 276 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: if I were to be a scary like legend or folklore, 277 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: but I turned into one of these miraculously, this is 278 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: the one that I choose. It is pretty fantastic. I'm like, okay, okay, 279 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: I can do this, So let's get into this terrifyingly 280 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: wonderful creature. The bobb and Sea or the fairy woman 281 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: in Scottish Gaelic also known as the Bob and she 282 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: or the white woman of the Highlands I guess. So 283 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: according to some is that she is the woman in 284 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: white for this and by the way, we're gonna talk 285 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: a little more about other women in white in other cultures. 286 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: But also she is seen in green and sometimes in 287 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: these tales, so it kind of goes different variations apparently. 288 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: But this is a type of white woman who kind 289 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: of you know, praise on men essentially, but for these 290 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: beautiful creatures. They are described, yes, as beautiful enchantresses that 291 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: typically prey on hunters who either stray from the path 292 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: after dark or make the unfortunate wish of a female 293 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: companionship in the woods after dark. Yeah, huge mistake, dude, 294 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: don't do this. And due to the blood often on 295 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: the hunters after a kill, that attracts these specific fairy 296 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: shubas vampires so many things. But unlike vampires, uh, though 297 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: they do feed off the blood of the individual, they 298 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: don't bite into them. They actually have sharp talents that 299 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: come out that they rip into them essentially and drink 300 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: and feed from them in that way. And you will 301 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: often not see this until they are too close to you. Um. 302 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: Apparently in some of the legends. They also have horse 303 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: hoofs or like some type of hoofs as feet, but 304 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: as often covered up by the dress, so you never 305 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: see it until it's too late obviously. And they according 306 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: to some other legends, they do feed off some women, 307 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: but it's very very rare. And when they do this 308 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: to the women, it actually turns the women into yes, 309 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: bob and see, so they create more if having a women. Um. 310 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: And of course they don't just attack, oh no, they 311 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: are true to interesses. And they entice the men by 312 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: how getting them to dance with them and putting them 313 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: under a sort of trance. So they have a power. 314 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: Like they're very good influencing men and enticing and seducing men. 315 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: And yeah, like I said, they have a lot of powers, 316 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: including as you talked about, shape shifting. Yes, they can 317 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: turn into different shapes and more often than not likely 318 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: to shift into wolves, which is even better. I'm like, yeah, 319 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: there we are, um. And although according to legend, it 320 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: does awaken them to be in this type of form 321 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 1: because they would rather be fairies. Apparently you can do 322 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: trances and all of that wobbing a fairy only, but 323 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: it helps them to get away an attack and change 324 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: shapes obviously. And yet and according to some of the legends, 325 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: they like to travel impacts. They sleep underground, uh in 326 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: a coffin during the day, and some of them don't 327 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: even come out except for once a year and can 328 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: only be found in the woods. And the way to 329 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: repel them. Apparently they don't like iron, and I've learned 330 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: this from supernatural people. Apparently supernatural creatures don't like either 331 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: iron or silver. I need to find both of those. Salt. 332 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Salt is the thing, but I haven't seen that mentioned 333 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: in any of these yet. Sorry, sorry, supernatural It's true, 334 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: it's true. So there. Yeah, I found these creatures really 335 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: fascinating and the artwork form are really beautiful. It's kind 336 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: of one of those like, yeah, there it is. But yeah, 337 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: so this is the very succubus vampire for y'all to 338 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: know if you go ever into Scotland hunting alone. Oh yeah, 339 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: for sure. I love it. I love it. I'm glad 340 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: to know that you have a preferred fairy tale monster 341 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: you'd like to turn into. I mean, like, I feel like, 342 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: if I had to choose one, that would be the one. 343 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: I think. It's pretty good. It's pretty solid. Now, let's 344 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: hop over to another part of world and discuss law 345 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: your Rhona, the weeping woman that often haunts rivers at night, 346 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: who has scared generations and has featured in books, TV shows, 347 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: and multiple movies. Um and yes, this is also a 348 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: kind of another take on the Woman in White, which 349 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: we have. Yeah, like you said, quite a few in here. 350 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: The story of law Eurona originated hundreds of years ago 351 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: somewhere in Latin America or Mexico, where that story is 352 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: still popularly told. Just as everything else we've discussed, there 353 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: are a lot of versions of this legend. At its 354 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: cord involves a mother who killed or are lost I 355 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: guess her children, but usually killed usually by drowning, and 356 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: after that was filled with heartbreak and regret over it, 357 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: drowning herself in grief literally not like just crying, but 358 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: like actually drowning herself or sometimes simply dying of grief. 359 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: The reason she did this varies. Killed her children from 360 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: catching her rich husband cheating and killing their children in 361 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: a fit of ridge, discovering her children are illegitimate and 362 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: killing them to prevent the wife from taking them away, 363 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: or even killing them as a way to be with 364 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: a man she loves, but he rejects her, so she 365 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: takes her own life. After that, because of what she did, 366 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: she has trapped in purgatory until she finds her children. 367 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: A lot of the stories say she goes to the 368 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: gates of heaven and they're like, can't come in without 369 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: the souls of your children. Sorry, So she has to 370 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: go look around for the souls of her children, and 371 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: she haunts the earth searching for them, wailing, where are 372 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: my children? Dressed in a long white burial gown these days? 373 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: In popular legend, she kidnaps children who resemble her own 374 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: are those who disobey their parents, or I've personally heard 375 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: children whose parents she thinks don't deserve them right um, 376 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: which is an interesting take on on that idea. In 377 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: some versions, she attacks cheating men are lures drunk men 378 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: into the water. Her whale is sometimes believed to be 379 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: a foreteller of do kind of like a banshee. And 380 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: her story really has captivated and terrified generations. You can 381 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: find articles of people writing like I heard this word 382 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: and as a kid, and I'm still I'm afraid of it, 383 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: like just really sticking with people. Some trace her story 384 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: back to the astect goddess Kataque and I'm sorry if 385 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm butschering that who legend has it? This goddess was 386 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: heard weeping before the Spanish conquest, so like crying for 387 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: her children. Others claim she is actually law your own 388 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: is actually her Nan Cortes's interpreter and lover, Lama lynch 389 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: A Um. When the asset capital fell, Cortes returned to 390 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: his first wife, abandoning Lama lynch A and the son 391 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: they had together. Interestingly, she's also considered the mother of 392 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: modern Mexico, while also a traitor for aiding Spanish. Yeah. Yeah. 393 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: Some researchers have suggested this story and others like it 394 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: reflect patriarchal standards of blaming little woman and here the 395 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: mother and the trope of the evil failed mother Um 396 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: that it's a way to reinforce expectations around being this 397 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: perfect mother. We've talked about that a lot too. They 398 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: point out that she shares a lot of characteristics with 399 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: other urban legends and monsters Um, some that we're going 400 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: to talk about later. But yeah, that was really interesting 401 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 1: because it's been like legit research papers written on her 402 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: and what she represents in particularly what she represents in 403 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: Mexico with the history aspects, So it's a lot going 404 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: on there, for sure. Did you watch the movie. I've 405 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: seen both movies because, as is we were talking about 406 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: this other night, as it's the case a lot of times, 407 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: two movies the same thing kind of come out around 408 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: the similar time. So I've seen kind of the more 409 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: classic mainstream American horror movie, and then I saw one 410 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: that was much more like I believe it's a Spanish 411 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: it's a foreign language film, and it was much more 412 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: about like politics and a dictator and possible dementia and 413 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: or Alzheimer's like is this is he hallucinating or is 414 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: she real? All? Dang, I need to go find that one, 415 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: because yeah, I like the movie a lot because it 416 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: was fun and then learning that tale. But yeah, there's 417 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: definitely a different variation again of the woman in white 418 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: who wants to punish some men sometimes my found Yeah, 419 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: that does seem to be a lot of the theme 420 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: about punishing men, the punishing women and punishing because there's 421 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: just a lot of pun punishing, punish, punishing. So now 422 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: we're going back up the East, uh, and we're talking 423 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: about the legendary hannuckle Son, which is the young girl 424 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: who haunts the girls bathroom at the school, and of 425 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: course brought memories of Harry Potter as Yeah, morning, Myrtle 426 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: who likes to stay in the girl's bathroom and she's 427 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: very helpful. Of course, we don't have any uh Harry 428 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: Potter Wizarding World in han knuckle Sons, uh till, but yes, 429 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: it did bring me to that. But she, of course 430 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: was before Harry Potter do. And how did the a 431 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: young girl who they see become a ghost? Well, according 432 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: to different legends, we have a version which talks about 433 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: the young girl harn uco Son, being killed while playing 434 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: hide and seek um and it was at this time 435 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: that the air raid happened in Japan during World War two, 436 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: and she was caught in that blast and tragically killed 437 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: at that point and then came back as a ghost. 438 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: Then there's another version which is kind of like how 439 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: we were talking about with Laurona, and a lot of 440 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: other tales about her actually being murdered tragically by either 441 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: a parent or sometimes tell us talk about a stranger 442 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: who murders her. And then there is the possibility that 443 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: she was abused and sad and so she died by suicide. 444 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: So I think you tell the tale based on which 445 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: one scares you the most, and you go into depth. 446 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: I think the most tragic is the World War two thing. 447 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that makes me really sad because it 448 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: could be too real. It happened and all that. And 449 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: of course when the best parts of this tale much 450 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: like Candy Man, because we were talking about the new 451 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: release of Candy Man and how it scared the hell 452 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: out of me when it was first released when I 453 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: was younger and I watched the younger I still have 454 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: nightmares about that one. And then of course it's a 455 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: type of the bloody merry tale, but that you can 456 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: actually summon a knack Son if you want to. Don't 457 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: do it. I feel like that's just always just don't 458 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: do it. I don't know why you would do it. Don't. 459 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm about to give you instructions on how to do this, 460 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: but don't there. And how does one summon such a 461 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: sad and typically evil spirit. Well, you enter the girl's 462 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: bathroom at a school, Best on the third floor. Apparently 463 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: the number three is very very key here. Best on 464 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: the third floor, go to the third stall of the bathroom, 465 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: and you knock three times and ask nacko, son, are 466 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: you there? I'm not doing this, and then she responds 467 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: with yes, I am here, or something along those lines, 468 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: with a very eerie voice. Apparently, then you may see 469 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: a ghostly hand or a bloody hand appear under the stall, 470 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: coming towards you. And that's only if you're lucky, that's 471 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: all you see. But she also may appear, uh, and 472 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: you will see her apparently on a red scart. Red 473 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: is a big theme here, and maybe sometimes with burn marks. 474 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: They say that, and she will pull you through the 475 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: toilet and to hell. So she's gonna drag you into 476 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: hell through the toilet. There's so many things to that. 477 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: That's just nightmarish. I think I once talking about like 478 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: a squatty potty and all of that, and she'll just 479 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: come and grab you from underneath. That doesn't left four 480 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: things that I'm afraid it's gonna crawl up from a 481 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: squatty potty in general, So I'm like, oh my god. 482 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: Or she may have her three headed lizard come and 483 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: devour you. So that is, and you may not see 484 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: her at all. All you see when you open the 485 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: door is a three headed lizard that is used to 486 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: kill you and eat you. And there are a few 487 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: that believe it is possible that you will not be 488 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: eaten or you will not be dragged to hell if 489 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: you present her with your perfect grades showing that you 490 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: are a great student, I guess, or some versions say 491 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: a perfect exam score, so maybe you have a test 492 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: on hand. So don't go into the bathroom unless you 493 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: have a perfect score. Doing this okay, which again makes 494 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: it seem like this is an academic influenced cautionary tale 495 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: of like, you better have good grades or her knuckles 496 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: son is gonna come and get you if you're exactly 497 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: But either way, don't do it. Don't don't summon evil things. 498 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: That's not to tempt them. That's my advice. And she 499 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: has made her rounds and uh death, different enemies and 500 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: mangas and movies as well. Yeah. I just pulled up 501 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: a trailer for one very fun um so yeah, she 502 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: is definitely famous. Don't tempt her, Okay, I love it. 503 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: I just have a discussion about this other day before 504 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: we watch Candy Man. I was like, it's not I 505 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: don't believe it. I'm just not gonna do it. To 506 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: tempt this we I did do Bloody Mary, and I 507 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: think we're going to talk about that later. But I 508 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: did go down a rabbit hole after this year's years 509 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: years ago, after the whole Allies the Lamp thing, which 510 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into but some of you 511 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: probably know what I'm talking about, and did. One of 512 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: the theories for the whole thing was there's this thing 513 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: called the elevator game, which is kind of like this, 514 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: like you get to the fifth floor and then you 515 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: press all these buttons and then you don't turn around, 516 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: and then you'll never know if your world is real 517 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: or not. For some reason, it really freaked me out, 518 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: and then I started instead of stopping there, I was 519 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: looking at all these other games you can do to 520 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: like summon things, right, boards, let's stay away from those. 521 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I went through big REGI board period and then it 522 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: scared me and I've not used it since. I'm just saying, 523 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: don't tempt them. Wait, so we were talking about the games. 524 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: Did you do any of those games? Can you tell? 525 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Like as a kid, I did Bloody Marry. I definitely 526 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: tried Bloody Mary several times. Did you do the light 527 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: as a feather stuff as a board? One? I never 528 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: did that, did you. Yeah, it worked too. It was freaky. 529 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, we all ran. I mean, 530 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: of course there was ten of us with two fingers up, 531 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: so I feel like, plausibly we could do this. But 532 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: it felt really weird. Yeah, I mean it does. It 533 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: looks weird to me, and I find it like it 534 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: makes sense. I've read the articles about why it works, 535 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: and I believe them, but it just looks weird, right, 536 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: And as children, when you hear these things and it works, man, 537 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: yeah I did that. Um, it's like you crack an egg. 538 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: It's not a real egg, but it's like a thing 539 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: that you do some of your back crack the egg 540 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: and then you see and it's supposed to foretell how 541 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: you die and mind us like apparently from a great height. 542 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think that's just because you pushed me. 543 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Whoa there, I never heard that part. I knew the 544 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: cracking egg and do this. That was just the sensation 545 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: that I didn't know. You're supposed to see your death. Yeah, 546 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: they shove you and you're supposed to see you what. 547 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: Hopefully this is real. They crack an egg, they do 548 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: a knife in your back, not a real knife, again 549 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: people who have no idea what we're talking about or 550 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: like what it was just some like game that you played. 551 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: Somebody was giving you these sensations and feelings on your 552 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: back and they would say this like creepy poem while 553 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: they did it. When I played it, they would shove 554 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: you at the end, and you were supposed to just 555 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: see like a color and the color you could interpret 556 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: to mean what your death would be. And I saw 557 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: something that either meant like water or a fall from 558 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: a great height. But again I think because you shoved me, 559 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: that's probably why that makes sense. Okay, anyways, moving on, 560 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, moving on. Yes, well we'll have more discussion 561 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: like this in part two. But in the meantime, listeners, 562 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: if you have urban legends from your area, oh yo, 563 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: please please let us know. You can emails at stuff 564 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: to your Mom, stuff at iHeart media dot com. You 565 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at most of podcast or 566 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram at stuff I've Never Told You. 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