WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Swaim Adds Leadership, Experience To TE Room

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<v Speaker 1>Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Hold ahead,

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<v Speaker 5>Ober, Here's Paul Calvic Abready, I'm one hundred percent ready.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you abready.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ron Wilf Sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't get any better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Leash the fjord.

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<v Speaker 5>The players refer to it as heavy air. We're talking

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<v Speaker 5>about record Minnesota heat ninety eight degrees, an all time

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<v Speaker 5>record for the date, combined with about a sixty percent

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<v Speaker 5>due point. Basically, take Arizona heat combining with Florida humidity,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's what you have during the joint practices. But

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<v Speaker 5>that's not the only reason the air is heavy here

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<v Speaker 5>in Minnesota, the weight of expectations unfulfilled and the realization

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<v Speaker 5>that with new decision makers there are truly no allegiances.

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<v Speaker 5>It is the big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

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<v Speaker 5>in Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul calvic Ron Wolfley,

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<v Speaker 5>soon to be joined by tight End Jeff Swain looking

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<v Speaker 5>forward to that. But wolf we have news times too

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<v Speaker 5>on this fateful Thursday for a couple members of the

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<v Speaker 5>twoenty twenty draft class.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Paul, you are no allegiances. You've been all

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<v Speaker 1>over this from the very beginning of training talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that no allegiances right now, and I think you're right

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<v Speaker 1>on that. In regard to this new culture that is

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<v Speaker 1>being established here for the Arizona Cardinals. In this new culture,

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<v Speaker 1>I call it PADS, Polly, you know that physicality and

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<v Speaker 1>accountability and discipline and being smart. I think PADS is

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<v Speaker 1>the culture. This is my own new culture that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>observing the Arizona Cardinals, right And they're pulling every player

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<v Speaker 1>through that prism of being accountable, being disciplined, being physical.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't fit that culture schematically or culturally,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have a hard time here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're seeing that right now.

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<v Speaker 5>The word fit most definitely applies to Isaiah Simmons in

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<v Speaker 5>more than one way, especially when it comes to this scheme.

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<v Speaker 5>Where did he fit? What position is he best at?

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<v Speaker 5>In the NFL?

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<v Speaker 1>An elite?

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<v Speaker 5>At elite, the measurables are off the chart. There was

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<v Speaker 5>a reason to he was the eighth pick overall in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty, but where would he play? Where do you

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<v Speaker 5>best utilize his skill set? There's a reason that his

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<v Speaker 5>fifth year option was not picked up. Earlier this offseason

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<v Speaker 5>and earlier today he was traded to the New York

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<v Speaker 5>Giants for a seventh round pick. And you talk about

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<v Speaker 5>being accountable. Mania Austin Fort, the New GM was right

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<v Speaker 5>there meeting the media and he was asked in particular

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<v Speaker 5>if the Isaiah Simmons trade was performance related.

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<v Speaker 6>Those are all these considerations that come into play. And

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we've had a month of training camp now

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<v Speaker 6>in the two games, and you know, hey, there's everybody

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<v Speaker 6>in our team. There could have been better performances for everybody.

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<v Speaker 6>There could have been you know, some guys did some

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<v Speaker 6>good things, some guys do some bad things. So you know,

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<v Speaker 6>really it just came down to the opportunity, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>and where we were at with the team, we thought

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<v Speaker 6>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>The right move.

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<v Speaker 5>He went on to say to the media, Manti Austin

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<v Speaker 5>Fort quote, we always tell the team that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>matter how you got here, it's about what you do

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<v Speaker 5>for the team now. And then, when he was asked

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<v Speaker 5>about whether this was partially intended to send a message,

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<v Speaker 5>you said, no, that wasn't part of it. But Wolf,

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<v Speaker 5>you spent ten years in a locker room. It definitely

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<v Speaker 5>sends a message, does it not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whether or not he meant to do it, it

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<v Speaker 1>really doesn't matter. I'll guarantee you right now. It sent

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<v Speaker 1>a message inside of that locker room, understanding that this

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<v Speaker 1>was the number eight player overall, number eight player overall

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<v Speaker 1>just a few years ago. So once again, it does

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<v Speaker 1>send a message to that locker room. And again, mantiasin Fort,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure didn't mean to send a message to the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, but everybody inside that locker room understands that. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you better play with intent, you better play with physicality,

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<v Speaker 1>and you better be accountable. You better be all of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. And if you're not, you're not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>brought in here. You gonna You're not gonna go out

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<v Speaker 1>and bring some college kid into your organization that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have those quot You're not gonna do it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the culture that is being established here and dogma is

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<v Speaker 1>what is at the core of it. Belief and you

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<v Speaker 1>can see that with Jag and Mani in the team

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<v Speaker 1>they're building.

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<v Speaker 5>When you talk about building a team. We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>into these trades in depth coming up here on the

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<v Speaker 5>Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert Effect.

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<v Speaker 5>It will take us a moment just to tabulate all

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<v Speaker 5>the draft picks the Cardinals have in the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>four draft. It's stunning at this point because you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>later in the day, they took Josh Jones, a seventh

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<v Speaker 5>round pick, traded him to the Houston Texas, and returned

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<v Speaker 5>for a fifth round pick, yet another member of the

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty draft class. And as I mentioned, we'll get

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<v Speaker 5>into all that in depth a little bit later. But

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<v Speaker 5>here we are in Minnesota, two joint practices. Let's just

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<v Speaker 5>say today was better than yesterday. Let's just say, speaking

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<v Speaker 5>of accountability, the players heard about yesterday and now the

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<v Speaker 5>coaches wanted a better effort as a follow up and

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<v Speaker 5>Greg Dorche he was asked about that today.

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<v Speaker 7>Problem coaches got on our ass and we came out

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<v Speaker 7>and re responded, and that's what good teams do, and

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<v Speaker 7>we have to just build off of his practice and

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<v Speaker 7>try to do it again.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he wasn't the only one, Zavi and Collins told

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<v Speaker 5>the media afterwards. He said, quote, we were challenged yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>We kind of came out let some outside factors affect

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<v Speaker 5>us that we shouldn't have. Zach Pascal had mentioned, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>there was an issue with the humidity and the heat,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no doubt about it. But it was all part

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<v Speaker 5>of the plan in some regards because Wolf it's that

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<v Speaker 5>uncomfortab building right that these players are feeling, whether it's

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<v Speaker 5>the heat and the humidity, whether it's their status on

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<v Speaker 5>the roster. These decision makers are trying to get the

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<v Speaker 5>best out of everyone and get them regular season ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something tells me that Jag got up in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the team and lit them up. I mean lit

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<v Speaker 1>them up in a big, big way. After Wednesday's practice,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw it out there. There were pre snab penalties

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<v Speaker 1>we have not seen pre snap penalty we have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen a plot the rah of pre snab penalties the

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<v Speaker 1>way that we've seen in the past here and suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>they were all over the place in Wednesday's practice and

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<v Speaker 1>also too just getting whipped at the point of attack,

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<v Speaker 1>physically getting whipped and especially on the offensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. And I really thought the offense came out

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<v Speaker 1>and totally did a one pint eighty. They were physical,

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<v Speaker 1>they came off the ball, they were buttoned up, the

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<v Speaker 1>mental layers were gone. There were no presnat penalties that

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<v Speaker 1>I saw, and they were physical at the point of attack,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had a great practice. Now listen, I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, yeah, is a practice, Yes it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>did you have a bad practice on Wednesday in a

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<v Speaker 1>great practice on Thursday? Yes, that is the case. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you are going into a game, that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to trend, Polly, where you have a great

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<v Speaker 1>practice on Thursday. Yeah, you kind of choke on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>but had a great one on Thursday. I'll take that

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<v Speaker 1>all day long.

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<v Speaker 5>But at least you showed you're capable of it. It

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't based on a lack of talent. As Josh Woods

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<v Speaker 5>said after practice yesterday, quote, we let the weather dictate

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<v Speaker 5>how we were attacking our work and we're gonna see

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<v Speaker 5>on film that we weren't maximizing our effort. So some

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<v Speaker 5>of the team leaders, a former team captain like Joshua

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<v Speaker 5>was JG got up in front of the team. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure that message was clear, because you're right, all the

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<v Speaker 5>pre snap penalties in the first practice there were there

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<v Speaker 5>were Minnesota defenders in the backfield. I mean constantly. There

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<v Speaker 5>was no downfield passing attack by the Cardinals offense in

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<v Speaker 5>that first practice, and going eleven on eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>The point of attack was awful. All that was was

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<v Speaker 1>no point of.

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<v Speaker 5>Attack that was remedy today and then and then look,

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<v Speaker 5>you're gonna get a heck of a test out of

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<v Speaker 5>the Vikings offense as well. You got Kirk Cousins, you

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<v Speaker 5>got justin Jefferson, you have experience offensive linemen, you have

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<v Speaker 5>a system, they're comfortable in Kevin O'Connell from a playoff team.

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<v Speaker 5>So well, it's all about getting ready for Week one.

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<v Speaker 5>And everyone that I talked to read that they got

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<v Speaker 5>a lot more out of these two practices than they

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<v Speaker 5>would have had just practicing against each other once again

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<v Speaker 5>at State parm Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and also to PAULI, they just got to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to continue to build that culture. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just personnel in which you build that culture, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it is scheme and how you go about your business.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what I really like, because I saw

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<v Speaker 1>them respond respond today going out and suddenly there was

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen personnel right from the very first team period. There

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<v Speaker 1>was third. Don't tell me, Pauli that was by accident.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that was by accident. I believe they

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<v Speaker 1>got lit up on Wednesday night and suddenly there's Drew Petsing.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes out in thirteen personnel and he's like, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. We're going to cram the ball vertical and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to give you the opportunity to show us

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<v Speaker 1>immediately that Thursday is not Wednesday, if you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a reason we have a blocking tight end on

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<v Speaker 5>this edition of The Big Red Rage. Jef Swain is

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<v Speaker 5>joining us, coming up a little bit later. Takeaways. Who

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<v Speaker 5>stood out? What stood out? Can I throw this out there?

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<v Speaker 5>Clayton Tune got better over these two practices. Clayton Tune

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<v Speaker 5>created a little bit of a buzz the fifth round,

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<v Speaker 5>Rookie quarterback out of Houston with forty four career starts

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<v Speaker 5>under his belt. Clayton Tune was a guy who looked

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<v Speaker 5>comfortable running the Cardinals offense and doing it against a

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<v Speaker 5>pretty stout Vikings defense that has a really aggressive defensive

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<v Speaker 5>coordinator in Brian Flores. And conversely, not that I'm here

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<v Speaker 5>to fan the flames of any sort of quarterback competition

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<v Speaker 5>or controversy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're gonna fan the flames.

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<v Speaker 5>Colt McCoy did not slam the door shut on the

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<v Speaker 5>competition either. I'm really curious where this stands going into

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<v Speaker 5>the final preseason game. As you know, I've created the

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<v Speaker 5>hashtag let the rook cook give them three quarters against

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<v Speaker 5>the Vikings on Saturday and then call the football doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>In the morning. Well, yeah, you're gonna do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>still think that Colt McCoy is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>starter Week one. That's just me, Paully. But we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>how it all shakes out here. Let me just say,

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<v Speaker 1>who did I think was impressive about there? I really

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<v Speaker 1>like what I'm seeing from Lecky FOTWO. I like a

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<v Speaker 1>photo gap. I like what I'm seeing from Lecky FOTU. LJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Collier as well, Oh my goodness, he flashed bej Ojulari

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of really nice pass rushes and one

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<v Speaker 1>on one right there. I also thought, too Keyante Ingram,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about who flashed James Connor had some nice

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<v Speaker 1>runs today, But Keante Ingram once again a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I think has solidified that position of RB two right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Dorge And oh, by the way, look everyone, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Wilson. This guy continues to show up. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that Polly continues to show up.

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<v Speaker 5>The fact he hasn't played that much in the two

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<v Speaker 5>preseason games, I think tells you everything. They've seen enough

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<v Speaker 5>on Michael Wilson. They already trust him, and going against

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<v Speaker 5>a Byron Murphy, for example, he's physical enough to body

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<v Speaker 5>of Byron Murphy and get between an experienced quarter like

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<v Speaker 5>Murph and the quarterback to make a contested catch, strong

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<v Speaker 5>enough with the hands. But getting back to Lecky Fotwo,

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<v Speaker 5>I completely agree. Arguably the Viking's best offensive lineman is

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<v Speaker 5>their center. Garrett Bradbury and Lecky Fotwo own him repeatedly

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<v Speaker 5>in those one on one drills, whether it was getting through,

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<v Speaker 5>ripping the arm through, or just a flat bull rush

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<v Speaker 5>with three hundred and thirty plus pound ucky PHO two.

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<v Speaker 5>It was impressive to watch him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the light bulb going on in the shit. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what.

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<v Speaker 5>There are two guys left from the twenty twenty draft class.

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<v Speaker 5>So if he's motivated, maybe he looked at Josh Jones

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<v Speaker 5>and Isaiah Simmons in his episode sixty one of the

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<v Speaker 5>day Patch podcast. Cardinals defensive coordinator Nick rollis available now

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<v Speaker 5>wherever you get your podcasts. We continue with a Big

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<v Speaker 5>Red Rage from Minnesota, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 3>Big third down for the Cardinals, a minute to go

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<v Speaker 3>here in the third third and five for the Vikings

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<v Speaker 3>on their thirty shotguns naffed.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cousins straight dropped back in trouble hit.

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<v Speaker 3>The ball is pumbled, Isaiah Simmons chopped it out and

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<v Speaker 3>Isaiah Simmons recovers it.

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<v Speaker 8>What a play.

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<v Speaker 4>Two plays by Isaiah Simmons.

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<v Speaker 3>He strips the ball and then he recovers it big

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<v Speaker 3>time by the former top ten pick.

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<v Speaker 4>The X Factor. Isaiah Simmons came out of blitz beat

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<v Speaker 4>his man, got his left palm and knocked the pig

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<v Speaker 4>away from puzzins. A script sack for Isaiah Simmons.

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<v Speaker 5>The big play wasn't the problem. It was the consistency

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<v Speaker 5>play in and play out. Isaiah Simmons, who has all

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<v Speaker 5>the measurables six ' four runs that four three nine forty.

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<v Speaker 5>You see the length, and but it just never materialized

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<v Speaker 5>into a single position where he could excel at And

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<v Speaker 5>because of that, he is no longer a member of

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<v Speaker 5>the Arizona Cardinals. So at least that's one of the

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<v Speaker 5>numerous reasons as Will came back into the Big Red

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<v Speaker 5>Rage presented by Santane Ford in Gilbert. We are santan Ford,

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<v Speaker 5>Paul calvic Ron Wolfley in Minnesota after a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>joint practices against the Vikings, Jeff Swain Cardinals tight end

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<v Speaker 5>going to join us momentarily. But once again, the big

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<v Speaker 5>news earlier today, Isaiah Simmons dealt in the New York

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<v Speaker 5>Giants for a seventh round pick. He was in a

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<v Speaker 5>contract year, his fifth year option was not picked up

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<v Speaker 5>earlier in the offseason. So we'll just gauge your degree

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<v Speaker 5>of surprise when you heard the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was pretty shocked, Paul, only from the standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a seventh round pick. Isaiah Simmons as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We know how up and down he's been from time

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<v Speaker 1>to time. It tells you how inconsistent Isaiah Simmons truly played.

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<v Speaker 1>I think last year when they look at the tape

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<v Speaker 1>and go back and watch it, I think it really

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<v Speaker 1>shows how inconsistent he was. He flashed, There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And we saw the games that he flashed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you think of that Raiders game on the

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<v Speaker 1>road where he caused the fumble, picked up the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly there it is Byron Murphy taking it back

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<v Speaker 1>for a touchdown. As I recall, yep, so you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know again, he makes the big play, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>the mundane play that I think you've got to look at,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that was his undoing.

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<v Speaker 5>PAULI, Well, think about it. He started last season with

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<v Speaker 5>the green dot and his helmet. He was calling the defense,

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<v Speaker 5>but by the fourth quarter against Kansas City, that job

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<v Speaker 5>belonged to Zavin Collins. He didn't start that Raiders game,

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<v Speaker 5>but he finished it, literally finished the game, causing that

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<v Speaker 5>that fumble those return for the game winning touchdown. So

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<v Speaker 5>with all that being said, you had Isaiah Simmons who

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<v Speaker 5>played about a half dozen different positions over the course

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<v Speaker 5>of his Cardinals career. The highest percentage of snaps he

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<v Speaker 5>got last year was actually at slot corner. We know

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<v Speaker 5>he's drafted initially originally to be that weak side inside linebacker,

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<v Speaker 5>but this year had mainly been a deep center field safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was Paully, and once again, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is part of the problem with Isaiah Simmons. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel about this. I've been saying for the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years that I would love to see them

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<v Speaker 1>take Isaiah, stick them at one spot and say this

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<v Speaker 1>is your job description right here. This is what you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to do, A B, C and D. Isaiah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what you do a B, C and D. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what you have to do. Just let him learn

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<v Speaker 1>one position. Maybe it was a situation where they tried

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<v Speaker 1>them out and they thought they gave him that one

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<v Speaker 1>position spot and yet he wasn't learning it, so then

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<v Speaker 1>they started moving. I have no idea what it was Paully,

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<v Speaker 1>but to me right now, I think ultimately the X

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<v Speaker 1>factor actually ended up hurting Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 5>Simmons originally drafted what advanced Joseph saying he was drafted

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<v Speaker 5>to cover the tight end yet against the Travis Kelcey

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<v Speaker 5>or George Kittle that didn't work out in the cardinals favor.

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<v Speaker 5>So there he was earlier in camp and he was asked,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, so how did gen up playing safety? And

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<v Speaker 5>Isaiah Simmons told the media that he told the coaches

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<v Speaker 5>he didn't want to play linebacker. So if he doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to be in the box and he wasn't good

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<v Speaker 5>in space as a deep center field safety, what do

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<v Speaker 5>you do well? Jonathan Gannon was asked by the media

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<v Speaker 5>just about everything involved and how Simmons. You know, he

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<v Speaker 5>was there, but they just didn't necessarily have a place

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<v Speaker 5>for him on the depth chart.

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<v Speaker 9>He did everything that we asked him to do. It's

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<v Speaker 9>just moving forward. We feel like this is the best

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<v Speaker 9>way that how we want to play football against other people.

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<v Speaker 9>So we're going to try to put the best guys

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<v Speaker 9>out there that can function and do a good job

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<v Speaker 9>for us.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's what we felt.

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<v Speaker 5>Like what everybody saw in that Kansas City game. Wolf

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we've seen it in mini camp, we saw

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<v Speaker 5>it in training camp. Yeah, just didn't look natural. It

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<v Speaker 5>didn't seem to have those instincts to play that safety spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what Paully, and once again they just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wonder about it. You know, this new regime

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<v Speaker 1>that has come in here, they did not draft Isaiah Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>they did not coach Isaiah Simmons. Now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>here they are in their first year trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>that and establish that. It really shows how bad of

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<v Speaker 1>a fit he was from a cultural perspective and also

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<v Speaker 1>schematically from what they wanted schematically. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately is what got Isaiah Simmons right there, Just the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he went out there and especially the inconsistency

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<v Speaker 1>that we have seen from time to time, and then

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<v Speaker 1>against Kansas City in the number two preseason game, which

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<v Speaker 1>has taken on that whole new import of preseason game

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<v Speaker 1>number three. When there used to be four preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>Now all of a sudden, that preseason game number two

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<v Speaker 1>is a big game. And he went out there and

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<v Speaker 1>he struggled. And it wasn't just on the Bouchelle quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>run for a touchdown. It also was on some other plays.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see where he seemed to show a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of effort on some plays, and I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why he also is gone because

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<v Speaker 1>after the game there wasn't a lot of accountability there, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just my take on that. Nobody's told me that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just me looking from the outside end.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no doubt that in Week one, Washington would have

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<v Speaker 5>targeted him. It's a game of matchups. There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 5>they would have tried to isolate him in certain matchups.

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<v Speaker 5>I've said before, Isaiah Simmons to me, is the nfl

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<v Speaker 5>ink blot test. You look at him, what do you see?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>Different personnel evaluators see different positions. I think the one

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<v Speaker 5>lesson is you can't just draft measurables because he checks

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<v Speaker 5>every single box in terms of being an elite athlete.

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<v Speaker 5>But does he have a position?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? I'm hoping somebody finds him a position

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<v Speaker 1>because I love the kid. I hope he finds success

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<v Speaker 1>in the future somewhere else. But it certainly was not

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<v Speaker 1>happening here.

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<v Speaker 5>And whether the decision makers know it or not, it

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<v Speaker 5>had an impact on the players in that locker room,

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<v Speaker 5>starting with today's practice. Fact after practice, here's what DJ

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<v Speaker 5>Humphreys had to say about the Isaiah Simmons trade.

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<v Speaker 7>Lighting a fire a young guy seeing it has never

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<v Speaker 7>really even seen someone get traded, let alone a first

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<v Speaker 7>round pick, you know what I mean. I think it

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<v Speaker 7>definitely put a fire on a lot of those young

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<v Speaker 7>guys that I got.

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<v Speaker 4>Me.

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<v Speaker 7>That's something that I already knew was a part of

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<v Speaker 7>the business. Obviously, I hate to see my guyasay go.

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<v Speaker 7>I hate to see him leave. I know he'll go

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<v Speaker 7>to New York and figure things out and get a

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<v Speaker 7>roll to for his carrit.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what's amazing, two Wolf is that when he

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<v Speaker 5>was originally drafted, are really our only question at the

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<v Speaker 5>time was was he going to be physical enough? Was

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<v Speaker 5>he capable and willing? Yeah, of tackling that was never

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<v Speaker 5>really a question problem. He was physical, he was agressive.

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<v Speaker 1>He just couldn't do it. He couldn't do it consistently though, Paully,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the one thing about it.

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<v Speaker 8>He just was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was physical. When suddenly it was a high profile play,

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<v Speaker 1>you would see him. He was not afraid. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>the consistency of being able to play that way, that

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<v Speaker 1>is what has been brought into question.

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<v Speaker 5>And when we saw Antonio Hamilton playing a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>nickel corner against Kansas City, you started to wonder because Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>if Antonio Hamilton is on the field, guess what, You're

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<v Speaker 5>not taking Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson off that field.

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<v Speaker 5>That's coming at the expense of Isaiah Simmons. And if

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<v Speaker 5>Antonio Hamilton, a bigger corner, an experience corner, can handle

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<v Speaker 5>that nickel position that you might have put a JT

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<v Speaker 5>or Buddha into, well, guess what, now, Isaiah becomes that

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<v Speaker 5>much more expendable. So if you read between the lines,

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<v Speaker 5>they were building up to that moment and trying to

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<v Speaker 5>assess what they had. And again one Isaiah wasn't deemed

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<v Speaker 5>capable of covering the elite tight ends. That's originally where

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<v Speaker 5>he was drafted. That was going to be his job description.

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<v Speaker 5>So he had that, and then you had the Josh

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<v Speaker 5>Jonestrait third round pick twenty twenty, same draft as Isaiah Simmons,

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<v Speaker 5>six seven, three ten at all the measurables. Played four

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<v Speaker 5>years as starting left tackle at the University of Houston.

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<v Speaker 5>He was dealt to the Texans along with a seventh

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<v Speaker 5>round pick and return for a fifth round pick. Ostensibly

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<v Speaker 5>lost the swing tackle battle with Calvin Beachum.

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<v Speaker 1>And there it is right there, Calvin Beacham actually coming

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<v Speaker 1>through and it appears as though he is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be that backup swing tackle right now. Not really a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise because you know the way that I feel about

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Beachum. This guy is a team leader. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a pros pro if ever there was. And the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you can have this guy on the roster even

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<v Speaker 1>if he's not starting for you, I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>major plus going forward, especially with all the young guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to be on this team.

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<v Speaker 5>And honestly, Kelvin Beacham has more positional flexibility than a

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<v Speaker 5>Josh Jones. Josh Jones played those four years of left tackle,

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<v Speaker 5>told the media how much more comfortable he was on

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<v Speaker 5>the left side, combined with the fact he was much

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<v Speaker 5>more of a tackle than a guard. Guard didn't really

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<v Speaker 5>work out a couple of years ago when they needed

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<v Speaker 5>him in a pinch. So if you have Kelvin Beacham,

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<v Speaker 5>who could play either side, he can play either position,

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<v Speaker 5>tackle or guard, he just becomes the more valuable player

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<v Speaker 5>to get you out of a pinch, get you out

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<v Speaker 5>of a game if you're only going to address eight

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<v Speaker 5>offensive lines.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think too Pauly the offensive line and

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<v Speaker 1>the depth on the offensive line along with the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I think, come cut down day, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be really interesting the waiver wire. I

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<v Speaker 1>could see many Austin Ford jg work in that waiver wire,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five spots on this roster.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking of maniasip fort working, he now owns twelve picks

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<v Speaker 5>total in next year's draft, the first three rounds if

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<v Speaker 5>you presume that they're gonna get a compensatory pick for

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<v Speaker 5>Zach Allen. So Cardinals are tracking towards owning the twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four draft at this point. Hey, single game tickets

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<v Speaker 5>on sale now. Got to easycardinals dot com slash buy

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<v Speaker 5>tickets to secure your seats today. All Right, Wolf's favorite

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<v Speaker 5>position group we all know his offensive line, second favorite,

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<v Speaker 5>not fullback, since it's almost distinct. How about blocking tight end?

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<v Speaker 5>Jeff swaym is next in the big red rage.

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<v Speaker 2>Canny Hill, the faith to Henriott, third down to the ends,

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<v Speaker 2>clutch down the tight end, Jeff Flame.

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<v Speaker 9>Jeff's doing an excellent job for us. Good skill set,

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<v Speaker 9>one that's a little bit different from the guys we

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<v Speaker 9>have on the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is cool.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know he's just he's improving his game, learning

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<v Speaker 9>the system, all those things, and producing at a high

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<v Speaker 9>level when his number is called.

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<v Speaker 5>Well the offense this year for the Arizona Cardinals, should

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<v Speaker 5>we go with free the tight then let the tight

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<v Speaker 5>end cook? I mean, what do you think? What should

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 5>we go with? Because it is going to look different

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 5>this year and everyone needs to get themselves ready for

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:11.239
<v Speaker 5>the re emergence of the tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the tight end cook. Like I like that right there.

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<v Speaker 5>I love the signing to Jeff Swain who joins us. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>this team realized, you know what, we have a need.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go out.

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<v Speaker 5>And Jeff Swain checks that box and he joins us.

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<v Speaker 5>Now on the Big Red Rage presented by sand tan

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<v Speaker 5>Ford in Gilbert, not that far removed from a joint

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<v Speaker 5>practice here in Minnesota, Zach Pascal said he lost twelve

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<v Speaker 5>pounds by the time that practice was done.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of cooking, are you a.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy who will sweat off like ten pounds or something

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<v Speaker 5>in one of those ridiculous heat index practices?

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe not ten, But I played my year. I played

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<v Speaker 8>in Jacksonville. I learned if I'm not in the game,

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<v Speaker 8>or if I'm not in practice taking a rep, I

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 8>am just drinking fluid. So I only lost maybe a

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<v Speaker 8>pound and a half two pounds a day, but that

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<v Speaker 8>was just because I spent the whole time drinking when

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<v Speaker 8>I wasn't in there. So, Jeff, you like to get

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<v Speaker 8>bloody knuckles, you know what I mean? You like to

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<v Speaker 8>mix it up. And I played ten years and that's

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<v Speaker 8>what I like to do too. That's what I loved

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<v Speaker 8>listening to jayg right there. It was interesting. He said

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<v Speaker 8>he's got a good skill set. What is your skill set? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm a bucking Titan and that's what I'd like to do,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's what I've made a career of doing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I feel comfortable in that role, and I want to

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<v Speaker 8>be in an offense that allows me to do that

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<v Speaker 8>because it's what I like to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tennessee Titans, I'm thinking of the Tennessee Titans. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>did they love to run the ball? They loved it

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<v Speaker 1>pound the ball. How did you get out of that organization? Jeff?

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<v Speaker 1>If in fact you are, because you're the best blocking

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<v Speaker 1>tight end they had on their roster. Now that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just my assessment of that watching you play and

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<v Speaker 1>you have been four years, So how did that come

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<v Speaker 1>to a close.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, I I don't know because I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>in there in those in those meetings. I think just

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<v Speaker 8>with the the when they change offensive coordinators, I think

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 8>they're just they're just going maybe a little bit of

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<v Speaker 8>a different direction.

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously I watch a little tap because they played Minnesota

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 8>last week in their preseason game, so I got to

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 8>watch their offense versus Minnesota's defense. It's just kind of

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<v Speaker 8>as a studying and you know, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 8>same similar concepts. But they just I don't know, if

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<v Speaker 8>I had to guess, just going younger and and uh,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, trying to get a youth movement, so kick

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<v Speaker 8>the old guy out in a new GM.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. In Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the fact there's a new head coach and a

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 5>new GM with the Arizona Cardinals. Count Angrim use the

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<v Speaker 5>word uncomfortable the other day. Just there's sort of that vibe, right,

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 5>No one's quite sure what the decision makers are thinking.

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<v Speaker 5>How would you describe I mean, this is your ninth season.

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<v Speaker 5>What are your takeaways on the vibe in this camp?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I I've really enjoyed my time. I've I've

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<v Speaker 8>liked the uh, I've liked the way they've set things up,

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<v Speaker 8>in the scheduling, all that stuff has been great. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm taking care of me, which is it has been good.

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<v Speaker 8>We still get our working though, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I know money from from Tennessee, so you know, I

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<v Speaker 8>have some You know, we didn't spend like a ton

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<v Speaker 8>of time together, but I know him well enough to

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<v Speaker 8>know what he's about, and I like the way he

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<v Speaker 8>goes about his business. Obviously, I'm not real privat in

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 8>those conversations, so I couldn't tell you like necessarily you know,

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 8>how they're running the show. But yeah, we're just all

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<v Speaker 8>getting to know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>It's the same thing. You know, I think first time

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<v Speaker 8>play callers, and it's it's all new, you know. So

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<v Speaker 8>there's a lot of growth that has to that has

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<v Speaker 8>to happen. There's a lot of maturity from a team standpoint,

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<v Speaker 8>just just a lot of things to work on. And

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<v Speaker 8>that's what camp's all about. So I'm not it's not

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<v Speaker 8>a surprise, but yeah, certainly with new staff, everyone's got

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<v Speaker 8>new opportunities. I'm a new guy here. It just it

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<v Speaker 8>all feels kind of like the I guy here was

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<v Speaker 8>like the first day of school.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I mentioned that. So you know, with Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Petzing as the offensive coordinator on this team and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>how much he loves twelve personnel and thirteen personnel as well,

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<v Speaker 1>was that something was appealing to you when you came

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<v Speaker 1>here or or is it just something that you said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm going to be given the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>let me play.

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<v Speaker 8>It was a little bit of both. You know, like

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<v Speaker 8>you need a job, so you you need a job, right,

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<v Speaker 8>But no, I've I knew his background in Cleveland, and

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<v Speaker 8>I knew kind of how they they ran the ball.

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<v Speaker 8>And when I spent my years in Tennessee, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>Cleveland didn't get a lot of like National Median, you know, attention,

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<v Speaker 8>but they ran the ball, man, that's what they did.

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<v Speaker 8>And obviously I played with Austin Hooper last year in

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<v Speaker 8>Tennessee and he had been in that offense, so I

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<v Speaker 8>kind of I kind of knew their style of ball

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<v Speaker 8>and I thought it would be a good fit. And

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<v Speaker 8>I saw an opportunity to like kind of define a

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<v Speaker 8>role here that would have be that would be in

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<v Speaker 8>my wheelhouse. So you know, I jumped at it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think your head coach will probably agree with you

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 5>on that front, In fact, leads me to this question,

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<v Speaker 5>what's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>What sort of.

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<v Speaker 5>Commitment to the run game do you think we can

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<v Speaker 5>expect this season?

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<v Speaker 8>Jeff, Well, there's some way to be seen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Like.

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<v Speaker 8>Throughout camp we've been just you know, trying different stuff

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<v Speaker 8>and working on our game and just trying to nail

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<v Speaker 8>the details of each specific scheme because you can. You

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<v Speaker 8>can throw a lot of things on the war on

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<v Speaker 8>the Wall and drop a lot of different schemes, but

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<v Speaker 8>you have to put in reps. You have to put

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<v Speaker 8>in the time to get good at what you what

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<v Speaker 8>you're doing. And I think that's something that will develop

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<v Speaker 8>as the season goes on. You know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 8>how Drew looks at it, but just the identity of

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<v Speaker 8>the team, the identity of the run game, the identity

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<v Speaker 8>of everything develops as you progress. It's not something that

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<v Speaker 8>you just outline and that's it sticks. Like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 8>have your objectives and you have your goals and the

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<v Speaker 8>way you're going to run your team and your offense.

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<v Speaker 8>All those things you know stay. But what you get

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<v Speaker 8>good at and what you turn into as an offense

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<v Speaker 8>that comes from playing games. And so we can talk

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<v Speaker 8>all we want in the an offseason. We can talk

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 8>in training camp and we can run a myriad of

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<v Speaker 8>different things, but it's going to be what we put

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<v Speaker 8>on the field, you know, and that it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 8>from week one. You know, week ten you should obviously

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 8>know who you are by then, but you know what

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, like, it's gonna grow from week one to then.

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<v Speaker 1>So job here we are joint practices with the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going? And by the way, do you enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>joint practices? I do more now.

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<v Speaker 8>I was joking around someone the other day when I

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<v Speaker 8>was I think it was my rookie year, I was

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<v Speaker 8>spending with the Cowboys and we had a joint practice

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<v Speaker 8>with then Saint Louis Rams and I remember it was

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<v Speaker 8>like one of my first days out there, and I

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 8>was going we were doing like an inside run drill,

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 8>and I kept just going against Chris Long and he

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.479
<v Speaker 8>had this low four point stance. He was super low

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 8>to the ground, and I just there was nothing I

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 8>could do to like block him. There's nothing I can do.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 8>And I was just every time i'd get back in

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<v Speaker 8>the back of the line before I had to go again.

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 8>I had like three or four plays before I had

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<v Speaker 8>to go back in. I was just sitting there like,

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 8>there's nothing I can do about this, and I was

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<v Speaker 8>so I remember just being like so like overwhelmed, not

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 8>knowing how to do this. But those things were really

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 8>instrumental in teaching me how to block. Obviously I came

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 8>in as a blocker, but learning how to block kind

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<v Speaker 8>of through going against some of the better defenders. Yeah,

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 8>kind of set me up to be forced to grow.

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<v Speaker 8>And so now I look at the joint practices unless

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<v Speaker 8>they're not like this, Like when you're young, it can

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 8>kind of be a big moment, you know, But as

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 8>I get older, now it's just an opportunity to test

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 8>myself against guys that are obviously good players and they've

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 8>got a they've got a really good front and a

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 8>good defense, and so for me, it's I look at

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 8>it more like I can attack.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you talk to some of the young guys about

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff? To you? Are you one of these guys

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you like to share your wisdom with some of these

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>young guys. Yeah, I mean I don't know. I don't

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>know how much i'd call it wisdom, you know. I

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I I want to make sure that I don't overstep,

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<v Speaker 1>and a young guy who's learning an offense, I'd also

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want to overwhelm them with too much because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not helpful, and not trying to do show him what

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing to make him a version of me. It's like,

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>what does he do well? What does he need to

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>hear so that he can develop? Because everyone's body positioning

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and the way they're built is different, and so you

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>can't just one size fit all approach. And so I'm

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to learn. I'm trying to listen more than a talk,

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and I do find myself talking frequently though I say

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that how.

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Much did you learn from Jason Witten? Jeff Swain is

0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 5>our guest. So you started your career, as you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 8>With Dallas. Yeah, yeah, So I got to I got

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 8>to Dallas in twenty fifteen, and and I've been watching

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 8>with since I was like a kid, you know. And

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 8>so him and Jeremy Shockey and these guys that I

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 8>had been watching, you know, coming up, and my position

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 8>coach who got me drafted, and he was Shocky's coach

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 8>as well, So there's this connection there. And then I

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 8>got to learn through Wit. But you know, he taught

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 8>me a ton, man, He really did. He taught me

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<v Speaker 8>a ton, but it wasn't as much like what he

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 8>was saying. It was like the same thing with kids,

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 8>like they they watched him, they do what you do,

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 8>you know. And so he was a good example of

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 8>how to practice the right way, how to how to learn.

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 8>You know, he'd be having me for five minutes an

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 8>hour after meetings were done. We'd be in the film

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 8>room and he would just be grilling me about something,

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 8>and not like in a harsh way, but just like

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 8>he was really passionate about football and about being detailed

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 8>and approaching it with the correct mindset, like with the

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 8>attention that it deserves and needs and requires. And so

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 8>I really gravitated to that. Because I was a detailed

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 8>guy and not being the strongest guy in the world,

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 8>I had to learn how to use technique and he

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 8>was really really good at that. And so I learned

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 8>a ton from him, man, I really did. And but

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 8>most of it was just how to approach the game

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<v Speaker 8>the right way, how to approach your studying, and how

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<v Speaker 8>to how to just be a pro.

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jeff, how long do you want to play?

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>As long as you let me? So? Ok, We're totally

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>adopting an old school mentality on this. Basically, you know what,

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to rip the jersey off my bag?

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying? I used to have.

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<v Speaker 8>I used to get asked that, And even in the past,

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<v Speaker 8>like I only arrived with a conclusion maybe six months ago,

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 8>you know, i'd have all these I don't know, we'll see,

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 8>you know. But then the truth is, man, like I

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<v Speaker 8>love playing football. I can't think of of a cooler

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 8>thing to do, and I enjoy I enjoy it so

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 8>much more now, and so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 8>pursue it as long as I can. You know, I

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 8>don't want to be out there gimping around, not able

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<v Speaker 8>to play. But I I had that sneaky feeling that

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 8>I'll never get to that point. They'll kick me out

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<v Speaker 8>long before I get that old you know. So I'm

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<v Speaker 8>just gonna I'm gonna ride it till it will fall off.

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<v Speaker 5>As we wrap up with Jeff swam is a mere

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<v Speaker 5>does this team have four distinctly different tight ends? Zach

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<v Speaker 5>Ertz is different than you versus a Trey McBride versus

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<v Speaker 5>ANATANGI I yep, I mean, those are all the you

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 5>guys all have really different skill sets even though you're

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<v Speaker 5>all technically tight ends.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's right, and I think that's I don't know

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 8>that I've been in a room that's had so much

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 8>diversity and skill set. I've been in a lot of

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 8>you know, a few other tight end rooms, and I

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 8>played with some some pretty good tight ends, and I've

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 8>learned a lot from tons of different perspectives. But yeah,

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 8>it's a it's a it's kind of an odd thing

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 8>to walk in the room and like ask how to

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 8>see how Zach plays the game, and then watch Tray's

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 8>ability to move in spaces is pretty cool, and then

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 8>like watching Noah in the fluidity with which he plays

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 8>the game. You know, I take a ton away from

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 8>those guys. And that's what I'm saying about the listening

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<v Speaker 8>part of it. Like this, I do talk a ton,

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<v Speaker 8>but I do watch, like watch how they play, and

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 8>it is cool to see the difference in their skill sets.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, the Cowboys get so much media coverage,

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 5>and I remember all those epic joint practice fights they

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 5>had over the years. Were ever involved in one of

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<v Speaker 5>those melees?

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 8>Well you remember this, The Rams one about eight years ago,

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 8>you were involved in that. I was there. I went involved. Well,

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 8>it was on the other side of the field and

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 8>I had run like one hundred and twenty yars to

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 8>get there, and I was like, oh, you guys got it.

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hang ou over here.

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<v Speaker 5>But you're here in Jacksonville. This heat and humidity is

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 5>nothing compared to Jacksonville, right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's good. Jeff enjoyed man, appreciate you guys. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Cardinals study and Jeff swaying from Cardinal's joint practice here

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<v Speaker 5>on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford.

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<v Speaker 10>In Gilbert touchdown, Tyler Simmons Dobbs just got rid of

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 10>it and Simmons got his head around and the ball was.

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<v Speaker 1>Waiting for him.

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<v Speaker 5>Was that old saying wolf? These things happened in threes.

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<v Speaker 5>So if the day started with Isaiah Simmons being traded

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<v Speaker 5>to the Giants for a seventh rounder, and then midday

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 5>towards the end of this second joint practice, Josh Jones

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 5>was dealt to Houston along with a seventh round pick

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<v Speaker 5>for a fifth rounder, let's see what would happen at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of today.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know Paul some type of trade, possibly.

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 5>Reports out of the NFL network that the Cardinals have

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<v Speaker 5>traded for Josh Dobbs.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Josh Dobbs the backup quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.

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<v Speaker 5>With connections to the Titans because his first two starts

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 5>of his career were late last year, the final two

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:04.280
<v Speaker 5>games for the Titans after they lost Ryan Tannehill, Malik

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 5>Willis struggling, Manti asin Ford, and that front office in

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 5>Tennessee brought in Josh Dobbs after he was released from

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 5>Cleveland because Deshaun Watson had come back and Jacoby Brissett

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 5>at the time was the backup. You're following the musical quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to follow it, Yes, Paul, how about you right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Dobbs. I don't know too much about Josh Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>other than the fact that he's six ' three and

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>he's two hundred and twenty pounds. He's got some pretty

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>good size to him right now. And this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that was drafted what in the fourth round by

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<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Steelers. As a matter of fact, he's played

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>eight games in the National Football League and started too, PAULI,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was up and down in those two affairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Tennessee had a very poor supporting cast around him in

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 5>those last two games. I think we can all agree

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 5>with that. It's one of the reasons why Mania Sport

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 5>has done deals with the Titans. I think maybe has

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 5>some inherent knowledgists. Is just me thinking out less that

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 5>the Titans might not be very good this year and

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 5>there's a chance between Houston and Tennessee struggling that the

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 5>Cardinals could have three picks in the first seventy five

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 5>or next year. Think about that, just because of all

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<v Speaker 5>the trades.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Polly, what does this make you think of right now? Well,

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and what does this Port ten do? You go out

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and these reports that are out there right now, you

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<v Speaker 1>go out and acquire Josh Dobbs and bring him in.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think that port tend's Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, let's see, you're gonna have to fill a certain

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.840
<v Speaker 5>amount of games until Kyler Murray returns. Yes, if he

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<v Speaker 5>is not on the fifty three on Tuesday, that means

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 5>he is staying on Pop. That means he's going to

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 5>miss at least the first four games of the year. Yes,

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 5>So now you have the decision to make what did

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<v Speaker 5>I say to start this edition of the Big Red Rage,

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<v Speaker 5>brought you by santan Ford and Gilbert We are santan

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 5>Ford that to me, the QB competition as it was

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:58.280
<v Speaker 5>was still ongoing, because not only is Clayton Tune slowly

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 5>but steadily improved, only did he make plays against that

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 5>Vikings defense. Not only did he run with the ones

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 5>quite a bit the last two days here in Minnesota,

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 5>But Colt McCoy had not slammed the door shut with

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<v Speaker 5>his own performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would agree with that, Polly right now, But

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you know you've got David Blaugh on the roster right now.

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe this does not Maybe this is not a good

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>thing for David Blough that you go out and get

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Josh Dobbs. The one thing we know is Josh Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be on the fifty three man roster.

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>That much we do know. We know Clayton Tune is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on the fifty three man roster, and

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe that Colt McCoy will be on the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three man roster as well as your starter going forward.

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>But once again, the quarterback combination, in the fact that

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Josh Dobbs has actually worked, I believe with Drew Petsing.

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that goes a long way.

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<v Speaker 5>Quite a bit in Cleveland. So Drew pets And has

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<v Speaker 5>an intimate knowledge of Josh Dobbs in the skill set

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.400
<v Speaker 5>and what he would bring to the Cardinals offense. Maybe

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 5>at this point they've seen enough to think, you know what,

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 5>Josh Dobbs might be a better fit than one of

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 5>the aforementioned names you just threw out there. Maybe Josh Dobbs,

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 5>who had yet to start a single NFL game until

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 5>those last two games last year, has some potential that

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 5>he's never been able to show.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Boy. That is going to be really interesting too, because

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Josh Dobbs is going to be familiar with a lot

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>of the terminology of the Arizona Cardinals, And because of that,

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden, is it possible that Josh

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Dobbs could get a little look on Saturday as well?

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's entirely possible.

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 5>He comes in, they give him a small chapter of

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 5>the playbook, a playbook he's already very familiar with, and

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 5>he's out there getting a look against the Vikings backups

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 5>to get his feet and guess what if he's throwing

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.719
<v Speaker 5>to the right spot and making the right decisions, and

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 5>he has the rest of the offense in sync. Once again,

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.399
<v Speaker 5>these are real time decisions and evaluations that are being

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 5>made by a new set of eyes. Yes, new decision

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 5>makers who have come in to a large degree, Drew

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 5>Petzing probably knows Josh Dobbs a lot better, and he

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 5>knows Clayton Tune or Cole McCoy combined, so he might

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 5>could you don't know what the OC is thinking or

0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 5>his comfortability factor with a Josh Dobbs versus the two

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 5>he currently has in the quarterback room.

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting right now. But oh my goodness, when we

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>talk about what are you going to be watching? What

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>are you going to be watching against the Minnesota Vikings

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>when Saturday rolls around, Paul Calvic, where are your eyes

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>going to be? For me? Right now? I'm going to

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>be watching who's playing quarterback, who is playing quarterback, who's

0:42:56.400 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>out there actually taking these reps right now? And by

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the way, how are they doing? This is me? This

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>is amazing the fluidity of what has transpired in the

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 1>last forty eight hours for the Arizona Cardinals and their roster.

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 5>If the forty nine Ers can trade away Trey Lance

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 5>because of the final pick in the draft, Brock Purty,

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 5>And at least those are the reports Trey Lance is

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 5>done with the Niners. If Washington against the Cardinals can

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.720
<v Speaker 5>run out there a fifth rounder from last year's draft

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 5>who got all of one start last year and Sam Howe,

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 5>nothing precludes the Cardinals from doing any or all the

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 5>above that we just talked about. No, So, my eyes

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 5>are most definitely in the quarterback position. There's no doubt

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 5>about that. Beyond that corner, the corner position, key Trell Clark,

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 5>he's been running with the ones. I think he outplayed

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:50.280
<v Speaker 5>Christian Matthew decisively in preseason game number two. Does Christian

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 5>Matthew have a bounceback game?

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 1>If there is one guy that I'm actually gonna be

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 1>eyebowling one guy, it's gonna be bj Ojalai. Ooh good one. Bjo.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened to watch him out there today of course, going

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>against the Minnesota Vikings. A little one on one Paul

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.720
<v Speaker 1>is what they call it. Bjol Jalai with a couple

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>of really nice pass rushes in one on one. Right now,

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm really gonna be watching Bjojelaarr because I would imagine

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>if if I were Nick Rawless and I were Jonathan Gannon,

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to get this guy as many reps as

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I possibly could. He could play a lot on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 5>Guess what Dennis Gardek did not practice against the Vikings,

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 5>saving Collins making the position switch. Right, So if a

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 5>bja Ojalai goes out there and balls out and puts

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 5>some good play on film, once again we come full circle.

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 5>Hashtag no allegiances Right, he was drafted high second round.

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Boy, you nailed it. Don't let it go to your head.

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<v Speaker 5>This thing is evolving right before I special Thanks jim

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<v Speaker 5>O Mahundro, Cody Fincher, Lauren cobl Ron Wolfley and Jeff

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<v Speaker 5>Swave Cardinals tight end all, Paul Calvic. This has been

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