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Speaker 5: The players refer to it as heavy air. We're talking

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Speaker 5: and that's what you have during the joint practices. But

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Speaker 5: that's not the only reason the air is heavy here

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Speaker 5: in Minnesota, the weight of expectations unfulfilled and the realization

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Speaker 5: forward to that. But wolf we have news times too

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Speaker 1: You know, Paul, you are no allegiances. You've been all

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Speaker 5: It will take us a moment just to tabulate all

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Speaker 5: day Patch podcast. Cardinals defensive coordinator Nick rollis available now

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Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcasts. We continue with a Big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage from Minnesota, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 3: Big third down for the Cardinals, a minute to go

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Speaker 5: The big play wasn't the problem. It was the consistency

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Speaker 5: Paul calvic Ron Wolfley in Minnesota after a couple of

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Speaker 5: Simmons originally drafted what advanced Joseph saying he was drafted

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Speaker 9: He did everything that we asked him to do. It's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what Paully, and once again they just

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Speaker 5: There's no doubt that in Week one, Washington would have

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Speaker 5: I've said before, Isaiah Simmons to me, is the nfl

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Speaker 5: Different personnel evaluators see different positions. I think the one

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Speaker 5: And whether the decision makers know it or not, it

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Speaker 5: starting with today's practice. Fact after practice, here's what DJ

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Speaker 7: Lighting a fire a young guy seeing it has never

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Speaker 7: That's something that I already knew was a part of

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Speaker 7: I hate to see him leave. I know he'll go

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Speaker 5: You know what's amazing, two Wolf is that when he

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Speaker 1: He just couldn't do it. He couldn't do it consistently though, Paully,

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Speaker 1: He was physical. When suddenly it was a high profile play,

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Speaker 1: that are going to be on this team.

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Speaker 5: And honestly, Kelvin Beacham has more positional flexibility than a

438
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Speaker 5: Josh Jones. Josh Jones played those four years of left tackle,

439
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Speaker 5: told the media how much more comfortable he was on

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Speaker 5: the left side, combined with the fact he was much

441
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Speaker 5: more of a tackle than a guard. Guard didn't really

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Speaker 5: work out a couple of years ago when they needed

443
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Speaker 5: him in a pinch. So if you have Kelvin Beacham,

444
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Speaker 5: who could play either side, he can play either position,

445
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Speaker 5: tackle or guard, he just becomes the more valuable player

446
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Speaker 5: to get you out of a pinch, get you out

447
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Speaker 5: of a game if you're only going to address eight

448
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Speaker 5: offensive lines.

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Speaker 1: And I also think too Pauly the offensive line and

450
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Speaker 1: the depth on the offensive line along with the secondary

451
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Speaker 1: as well. I think, come cut down day, I think

452
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Speaker 1: it's going to be really interesting the waiver wire. I

453
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Speaker 1: could see many Austin Ford jg work in that waiver wire,

454
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Speaker 1: four or five spots on this roster.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of maniasip fort working, he now owns twelve picks

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Speaker 5: total in next year's draft, the first three rounds if

457
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Speaker 5: you presume that they're gonna get a compensatory pick for

458
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Speaker 5: Zach Allen. So Cardinals are tracking towards owning the twenty

459
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Speaker 5: twenty four draft at this point. Hey, single game tickets

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Speaker 5: on sale now. Got to easycardinals dot com slash buy

461
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Speaker 5: tickets to secure your seats today. All Right, Wolf's favorite

462
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Speaker 5: position group we all know his offensive line, second favorite,

463
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Speaker 5: not fullback, since it's almost distinct. How about blocking tight end?

464
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Speaker 5: Jeff swaym is next in the big red rage.

465
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Speaker 2: Canny Hill, the faith to Henriott, third down to the ends,

466
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Speaker 2: clutch down the tight end, Jeff Flame.

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Speaker 9: Jeff's doing an excellent job for us. Good skill set,

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Speaker 9: one that's a little bit different from the guys we

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Speaker 9: have on the roster.

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Speaker 1: Which is cool.

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Speaker 9: And you know he's just he's improving his game, learning

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Speaker 9: the system, all those things, and producing at a high

473
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Speaker 9: level when his number is called.

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Speaker 5: Well the offense this year for the Arizona Cardinals, should

475
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Speaker 5: we go with free the tight then let the tight

476
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Speaker 5: end cook? I mean, what do you think? What should

477
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Speaker 5: we go with? Because it is going to look different

478
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Speaker 5: this year and everyone needs to get themselves ready for

479
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Speaker 5: the re emergence of the tight end.

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Speaker 1: Let the tight end cook. Like I like that right there.

481
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Speaker 5: I love the signing to Jeff Swain who joins us. Now,

482
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Speaker 5: this team realized, you know what, we have a need.

483
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Speaker 1: We're gonna go out.

484
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Speaker 5: And Jeff Swain checks that box and he joins us.

485
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Speaker 5: Now on the Big Red Rage presented by sand tan

486
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Speaker 5: Ford in Gilbert, not that far removed from a joint

487
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 5: practice here in Minnesota, Zach Pascal said he lost twelve

488
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Speaker 5: pounds by the time that practice was done.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of cooking, are you a.

490
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Speaker 5: Guy who will sweat off like ten pounds or something

491
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Speaker 5: in one of those ridiculous heat index practices?

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Speaker 8: Maybe not ten, But I played my year. I played

493
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Speaker 8: in Jacksonville. I learned if I'm not in the game,

494
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Speaker 8: or if I'm not in practice taking a rep, I

495
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Speaker 8: am just drinking fluid. So I only lost maybe a

496
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Speaker 8: pound and a half two pounds a day, but that

497
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Speaker 8: was just because I spent the whole time drinking when

498
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Speaker 8: I wasn't in there. So, Jeff, you like to get

499
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Speaker 8: bloody knuckles, you know what I mean? You like to

500
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Speaker 8: mix it up. And I played ten years and that's

501
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Speaker 8: what I like to do too. That's what I loved

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Speaker 8: listening to jayg right there. It was interesting. He said

503
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Speaker 8: he's got a good skill set. What is your skill set? Yeah,

504
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Speaker 8: I'm a bucking Titan and that's what I'd like to do,

505
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Speaker 8: and it's what I've made a career of doing. So yeah,

506
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Speaker 8: I feel comfortable in that role, and I want to

507
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Speaker 8: be in an offense that allows me to do that

508
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Speaker 8: because it's what I like to do.

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Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans, I'm thinking of the Tennessee Titans. Man,

510
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Speaker 1: did they love to run the ball? They loved it

511
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Speaker 1: pound the ball. How did you get out of that organization? Jeff?

512
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Speaker 1: If in fact you are, because you're the best blocking

513
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Speaker 1: tight end they had on their roster. Now that's me.

514
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Speaker 1: That's just my assessment of that watching you play and

515
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Speaker 1: you have been four years, So how did that come

516
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Speaker 1: to a close.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I I don't know because I'm not

518
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Speaker 8: in there in those in those meetings. I think just

519
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Speaker 8: with the the when they change offensive coordinators, I think

520
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Speaker 8: they're just they're just going maybe a little bit of

521
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Speaker 8: a different direction.

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Speaker 1: You know.

523
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Speaker 8: Obviously I watch a little tap because they played Minnesota

524
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Speaker 8: last week in their preseason game, so I got to

525
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Speaker 8: watch their offense versus Minnesota's defense. It's just kind of

526
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Speaker 8: as a studying and you know, a lot of the

527
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 8: same similar concepts. But they just I don't know, if

528
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Speaker 8: I had to guess, just going younger and and uh,

529
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Speaker 8: you know, trying to get a youth movement, so kick

530
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Speaker 8: the old guy out in a new GM.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In Tennessee.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the fact there's a new head coach and a

533
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Speaker 5: new GM with the Arizona Cardinals. Count Angrim use the

534
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Speaker 5: word uncomfortable the other day. Just there's sort of that vibe, right,

535
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Speaker 5: No one's quite sure what the decision makers are thinking.

536
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Speaker 5: How would you describe I mean, this is your ninth season.

537
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Speaker 5: What are your takeaways on the vibe in this camp?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I I've really enjoyed my time. I've I've

539
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 8: liked the uh, I've liked the way they've set things up,

540
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Speaker 8: in the scheduling, all that stuff has been great. You know,

541
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Speaker 8: I'm taking care of me, which is it has been good.

542
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Speaker 8: We still get our working though, and and you know,

543
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Speaker 8: I know money from from Tennessee, so you know, I

544
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Speaker 8: have some You know, we didn't spend like a ton

545
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Speaker 8: of time together, but I know him well enough to

546
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Speaker 8: know what he's about, and I like the way he

547
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Speaker 8: goes about his business. Obviously, I'm not real privat in

548
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Speaker 8: those conversations, so I couldn't tell you like necessarily you know,

549
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Speaker 8: how they're running the show. But yeah, we're just all

550
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Speaker 8: getting to know each other.

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Speaker 1: You know.

552
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Speaker 8: It's the same thing. You know, I think first time

553
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Speaker 8: play callers, and it's it's all new, you know. So

554
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Speaker 8: there's a lot of growth that has to that has

555
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Speaker 8: to happen. There's a lot of maturity from a team standpoint,

556
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Speaker 8: just just a lot of things to work on. And

557
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Speaker 8: that's what camp's all about. So I'm not it's not

558
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Speaker 8: a surprise, but yeah, certainly with new staff, everyone's got

559
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Speaker 8: new opportunities. I'm a new guy here. It just it

560
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Speaker 8: all feels kind of like the I guy here was

561
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Speaker 8: like the first day of school.

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Speaker 1: You know I mentioned that. So you know, with Drew

563
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Speaker 1: Petzing as the offensive coordinator on this team and knowing

564
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Speaker 1: how much he loves twelve personnel and thirteen personnel as well,

565
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Speaker 1: was that something was appealing to you when you came

566
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Speaker 1: here or or is it just something that you said, Hey,

567
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to be given the opportunity,

568
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Speaker 1: let me play.

569
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Speaker 8: It was a little bit of both. You know, like

570
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Speaker 8: you need a job, so you you need a job, right,

571
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Speaker 8: But no, I've I knew his background in Cleveland, and

572
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Speaker 8: I knew kind of how they they ran the ball.

573
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Speaker 8: And when I spent my years in Tennessee, you know,

574
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Speaker 8: Cleveland didn't get a lot of like National Median, you know, attention,

575
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Speaker 8: but they ran the ball, man, that's what they did.

576
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Speaker 8: And obviously I played with Austin Hooper last year in

577
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Speaker 8: Tennessee and he had been in that offense, so I

578
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Speaker 8: kind of I kind of knew their style of ball

579
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Speaker 8: and I thought it would be a good fit. And

580
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Speaker 8: I saw an opportunity to like kind of define a

581
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Speaker 8: role here that would have be that would be in

582
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Speaker 8: my wheelhouse. So you know, I jumped at it.

583
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Speaker 5: I think your head coach will probably agree with you

584
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Speaker 5: on that front, In fact, leads me to this question,

585
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Speaker 5: what's coming.

586
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Speaker 1: What sort of.

587
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Speaker 5: Commitment to the run game do you think we can

588
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Speaker 5: expect this season?

589
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Speaker 8: Jeff, Well, there's some way to be seen.

590
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Speaker 1: You know, Like.

591
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Speaker 8: Throughout camp we've been just you know, trying different stuff

592
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Speaker 8: and working on our game and just trying to nail

593
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 8: the details of each specific scheme because you can. You

594
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Speaker 8: can throw a lot of things on the war on

595
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Speaker 8: the Wall and drop a lot of different schemes, but

596
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Speaker 8: you have to put in reps. You have to put

597
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Speaker 8: in the time to get good at what you what

598
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Speaker 8: you're doing. And I think that's something that will develop

599
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Speaker 8: as the season goes on. You know, I don't know

600
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Speaker 8: how Drew looks at it, but just the identity of

601
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Speaker 8: the team, the identity of the run game, the identity

602
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 8: of everything develops as you progress. It's not something that

603
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Speaker 8: you just outline and that's it sticks. Like, yeah, you

604
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 8: have your objectives and you have your goals and the

605
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Speaker 8: way you're going to run your team and your offense.

606
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Speaker 8: All those things you know stay. But what you get

607
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Speaker 8: good at and what you turn into as an offense

608
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Speaker 8: that comes from playing games. And so we can talk

609
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Speaker 8: all we want in the an offseason. We can talk

610
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Speaker 8: in training camp and we can run a myriad of

611
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Speaker 8: different things, but it's going to be what we put

612
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Speaker 8: on the field, you know, and that it's gonna be

613
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Speaker 8: from week one. You know, week ten you should obviously

614
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 8: know who you are by then, but you know what

615
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Speaker 8: I mean, like, it's gonna grow from week one to then.

616
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Speaker 1: So job here we are joint practices with the Minnesota Vikings.

617
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Speaker 1: How's it going? And by the way, do you enjoy

618
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Speaker 1: joint practices? I do more now.

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Speaker 8: I was joking around someone the other day when I

620
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Speaker 8: was I think it was my rookie year, I was

621
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Speaker 8: spending with the Cowboys and we had a joint practice

622
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Speaker 8: with then Saint Louis Rams and I remember it was

623
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Speaker 8: like one of my first days out there, and I

624
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 8: was going we were doing like an inside run drill,

625
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 8: and I kept just going against Chris Long and he

626
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 8: had this low four point stance. He was super low

627
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Speaker 8: to the ground, and I just there was nothing I

628
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 8: could do to like block him. There's nothing I can do.

629
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Speaker 8: And I was just every time i'd get back in

630
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Speaker 8: the back of the line before I had to go again.

631
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Speaker 8: I had like three or four plays before I had

632
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Speaker 8: to go back in. I was just sitting there like,

633
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Speaker 8: there's nothing I can do about this, and I was

634
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Speaker 8: so I remember just being like so like overwhelmed, not

635
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 8: knowing how to do this. But those things were really

636
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 8: instrumental in teaching me how to block. Obviously I came

637
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Speaker 8: in as a blocker, but learning how to block kind

638
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Speaker 8: of through going against some of the better defenders. Yeah,

639
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 8: kind of set me up to be forced to grow.

640
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 8: And so now I look at the joint practices unless

641
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 8: they're not like this, Like when you're young, it can

642
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 8: kind of be a big moment, you know, But as

643
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Speaker 8: I get older, now it's just an opportunity to test

644
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 8: myself against guys that are obviously good players and they've

645
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 8: got a they've got a really good front and a

646
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 8: good defense, and so for me, it's I look at

647
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Speaker 8: it more like I can attack.

648
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Speaker 1: Do you talk to some of the young guys about

649
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Speaker 1: this stuff? To you? Are you one of these guys

650
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Speaker 1: you like to share your wisdom with some of these

651
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Speaker 1: young guys. Yeah, I mean I don't know. I don't

652
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Speaker 1: know how much i'd call it wisdom, you know. I

653
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Speaker 1: I I want to make sure that I don't overstep,

654
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Speaker 1: and a young guy who's learning an offense, I'd also

655
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Speaker 1: don't want to overwhelm them with too much because that's

656
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Speaker 1: not helpful, and not trying to do show him what

657
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing to make him a version of me. It's like,

658
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Speaker 1: what does he do well? What does he need to

659
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: hear so that he can develop? Because everyone's body positioning

660
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: and the way they're built is different, and so you

661
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: can't just one size fit all approach. And so I'm

662
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Speaker 1: trying to learn. I'm trying to listen more than a talk,

663
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Speaker 1: and I do find myself talking frequently though I say

664
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Speaker 1: that how.

665
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Speaker 5: Much did you learn from Jason Witten? Jeff Swain is

666
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 5: our guest. So you started your career, as you mentioned.

667
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Speaker 8: With Dallas. Yeah, yeah, So I got to I got

668
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 8: to Dallas in twenty fifteen, and and I've been watching

669
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Speaker 8: with since I was like a kid, you know. And

670
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Speaker 8: so him and Jeremy Shockey and these guys that I

671
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 8: had been watching, you know, coming up, and my position

672
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 8: coach who got me drafted, and he was Shocky's coach

673
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 8: as well, So there's this connection there. And then I

674
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Speaker 8: got to learn through Wit. But you know, he taught

675
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Speaker 8: me a ton, man, He really did. He taught me

676
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Speaker 8: a ton, but it wasn't as much like what he

677
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Speaker 8: was saying. It was like the same thing with kids,

678
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Speaker 8: like they they watched him, they do what you do,

679
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 8: you know. And so he was a good example of

680
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 8: how to practice the right way, how to how to learn.

681
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 8: You know, he'd be having me for five minutes an

682
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 8: hour after meetings were done. We'd be in the film

683
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Speaker 8: room and he would just be grilling me about something,

684
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Speaker 8: and not like in a harsh way, but just like

685
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 8: he was really passionate about football and about being detailed

686
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 8: and approaching it with the correct mindset, like with the

687
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 8: attention that it deserves and needs and requires. And so

688
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 8: I really gravitated to that. Because I was a detailed

689
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 8: guy and not being the strongest guy in the world,

690
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 8: I had to learn how to use technique and he

691
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 8: was really really good at that. And so I learned

692
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 8: a ton from him, man, I really did. And but

693
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 8: most of it was just how to approach the game

694
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Speaker 8: the right way, how to approach your studying, and how

695
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Speaker 8: to how to just be a pro.

696
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Speaker 1: You know, Jeff, how long do you want to play?

697
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: As long as you let me? So? Ok, We're totally

698
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: adopting an old school mentality on this. Basically, you know what,

699
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to rip the jersey off my bag?

700
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? I used to have.

701
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Speaker 8: I used to get asked that, And even in the past,

702
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 8: like I only arrived with a conclusion maybe six months ago,

703
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 8: you know, i'd have all these I don't know, we'll see,

704
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 8: you know. But then the truth is, man, like I

705
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 8: love playing football. I can't think of of a cooler

706
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 8: thing to do, and I enjoy I enjoy it so

707
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 8: much more now, and so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna

708
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 8: pursue it as long as I can. You know, I

709
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 8: don't want to be out there gimping around, not able

710
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 8: to play. But I I had that sneaky feeling that

711
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 8: I'll never get to that point. They'll kick me out

712
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 8: long before I get that old you know. So I'm

713
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 8: just gonna I'm gonna ride it till it will fall off.

714
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Speaker 5: As we wrap up with Jeff swam is a mere

715
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Speaker 5: does this team have four distinctly different tight ends? Zach

716
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Speaker 5: Ertz is different than you versus a Trey McBride versus

717
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 5: ANATANGI I yep, I mean, those are all the you

718
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 5: guys all have really different skill sets even though you're

719
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 5: all technically tight ends.

720
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, and I think that's I don't know

721
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Speaker 8: that I've been in a room that's had so much

722
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Speaker 8: diversity and skill set. I've been in a lot of

723
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Speaker 8: you know, a few other tight end rooms, and I

724
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 8: played with some some pretty good tight ends, and I've

725
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 8: learned a lot from tons of different perspectives. But yeah,

726
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 8: it's a it's a it's kind of an odd thing

727
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Speaker 8: to walk in the room and like ask how to

728
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 8: see how Zach plays the game, and then watch Tray's

729
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 8: ability to move in spaces is pretty cool, and then

730
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Speaker 8: like watching Noah in the fluidity with which he plays

731
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Speaker 8: the game. You know, I take a ton away from

732
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Speaker 8: those guys. And that's what I'm saying about the listening

733
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Speaker 8: part of it. Like this, I do talk a ton,

734
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Speaker 8: but I do watch, like watch how they play, and

735
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Speaker 8: it is cool to see the difference in their skill sets.

736
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Speaker 5: By the way, the Cowboys get so much media coverage,

737
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 5: and I remember all those epic joint practice fights they

738
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Speaker 5: had over the years. Were ever involved in one of

739
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Speaker 5: those melees?

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Speaker 8: Well you remember this, The Rams one about eight years ago,

741
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 8: you were involved in that. I was there. I went involved. Well,

742
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 8: it was on the other side of the field and

743
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Speaker 8: I had run like one hundred and twenty yars to

744
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Speaker 8: get there, and I was like, oh, you guys got it.

745
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang ou over here.

746
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 5: But you're here in Jacksonville. This heat and humidity is

747
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 5: nothing compared to Jacksonville, right, So.

748
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. Jeff enjoyed man, appreciate you guys. Thank you.

749
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Speaker 5: Cardinals study and Jeff swaying from Cardinal's joint practice here

750
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Speaker 5: on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford.

751
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Speaker 10: In Gilbert touchdown, Tyler Simmons Dobbs just got rid of

752
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 10: it and Simmons got his head around and the ball was.

753
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: Waiting for him.

754
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 5: Was that old saying wolf? These things happened in threes.

755
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 5: So if the day started with Isaiah Simmons being traded

756
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: to the Giants for a seventh rounder, and then midday

757
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: towards the end of this second joint practice, Josh Jones

758
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 5: was dealt to Houston along with a seventh round pick

759
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Speaker 5: for a fifth rounder, let's see what would happen at

760
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 5: the end of today.

761
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Speaker 1: I don't know Paul some type of trade, possibly.

762
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 5: Reports out of the NFL network that the Cardinals have

763
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Speaker 5: traded for Josh Dobbs.

764
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Speaker 1: Josh Josh Dobbs the backup quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.

765
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Speaker 5: With connections to the Titans because his first two starts

766
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Speaker 5: of his career were late last year, the final two

767
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Speaker 5: games for the Titans after they lost Ryan Tannehill, Malik

768
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Speaker 5: Willis struggling, Manti asin Ford, and that front office in

769
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Speaker 5: Tennessee brought in Josh Dobbs after he was released from

770
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Speaker 5: Cleveland because Deshaun Watson had come back and Jacoby Brissett

771
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Speaker 5: at the time was the backup. You're following the musical quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Trying to follow it, Yes, Paul, how about you right now?

773
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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs. I don't know too much about Josh Dobbs

774
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Speaker 1: other than the fact that he's six ' three and

775
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: he's two hundred and twenty pounds. He's got some pretty

776
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Speaker 1: good size to him right now. And this is a

777
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Speaker 1: guy that was drafted what in the fourth round by

778
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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. As a matter of fact, he's played

779
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Speaker 1: eight games in the National Football League and started too, PAULI,

780
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Speaker 1: and he was up and down in those two affairs.

781
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

782
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Speaker 5: Tennessee had a very poor supporting cast around him in

783
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Speaker 5: those last two games. I think we can all agree

784
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: with that. It's one of the reasons why Mania Sport

785
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 5: has done deals with the Titans. I think maybe has

786
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 5: some inherent knowledgists. Is just me thinking out less that

787
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 5: the Titans might not be very good this year and

788
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Speaker 5: there's a chance between Houston and Tennessee struggling that the

789
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Speaker 5: Cardinals could have three picks in the first seventy five

790
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Speaker 5: or next year. Think about that, just because of all

791
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Speaker 5: the trades.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Polly, what does this make you think of right now? Well,

793
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Speaker 1: and what does this Port ten do? You go out

794
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Speaker 1: and these reports that are out there right now, you

795
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Speaker 1: go out and acquire Josh Dobbs and bring him in.

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Speaker 1: What do you think that port tend's Paul.

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Speaker 5: Well, let's see, you're gonna have to fill a certain

798
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 5: amount of games until Kyler Murray returns. Yes, if he

799
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Speaker 5: is not on the fifty three on Tuesday, that means

800
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Speaker 5: he is staying on Pop. That means he's going to

801
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Speaker 5: miss at least the first four games of the year. Yes,

802
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Speaker 5: So now you have the decision to make what did

803
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Speaker 5: I say to start this edition of the Big Red Rage,

804
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: brought you by santan Ford and Gilbert We are santan

805
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 5: Ford that to me, the QB competition as it was

806
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 5: was still ongoing, because not only is Clayton Tune slowly

807
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: but steadily improved, only did he make plays against that

808
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 5: Vikings defense. Not only did he run with the ones

809
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Speaker 5: quite a bit the last two days here in Minnesota,

810
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Speaker 5: But Colt McCoy had not slammed the door shut with

811
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Speaker 5: his own performance.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree with that, Polly right now, But

813
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Speaker 1: you know you've got David Blaugh on the roster right now.

814
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Maybe this does not Maybe this is not a good

815
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: thing for David Blough that you go out and get

816
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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs. The one thing we know is Josh Dobbs

817
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: is going to be on the fifty three man roster.

818
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Speaker 1: That much we do know. We know Clayton Tune is

819
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: going to be on the fifty three man roster, and

820
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Speaker 1: I believe that Colt McCoy will be on the fifty

821
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: three man roster as well as your starter going forward.

822
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Speaker 1: But once again, the quarterback combination, in the fact that

823
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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs has actually worked, I believe with Drew Petsing.

824
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Speaker 1: I think that goes a long way.

825
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 5: Quite a bit in Cleveland. So Drew pets And has

826
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Speaker 5: an intimate knowledge of Josh Dobbs in the skill set

827
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Speaker 5: and what he would bring to the Cardinals offense. Maybe

828
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 5: at this point they've seen enough to think, you know what,

829
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 5: Josh Dobbs might be a better fit than one of

830
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Speaker 5: the aforementioned names you just threw out there. Maybe Josh Dobbs,

831
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 5: who had yet to start a single NFL game until

832
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 5: those last two games last year, has some potential that

833
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 5: he's never been able to show.

834
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Speaker 1: Boy. That is going to be really interesting too, because

835
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs is going to be familiar with a lot

836
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: of the terminology of the Arizona Cardinals, And because of that,

837
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, is it possible that Josh

838
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: Dobbs could get a little look on Saturday as well?

839
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Speaker 1: I think it's entirely possible.

840
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 5: He comes in, they give him a small chapter of

841
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 5: the playbook, a playbook he's already very familiar with, and

842
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 5: he's out there getting a look against the Vikings backups

843
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: to get his feet and guess what if he's throwing

844
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 5: to the right spot and making the right decisions, and

845
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 5: he has the rest of the offense in sync. Once again,

846
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 5: these are real time decisions and evaluations that are being

847
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: made by a new set of eyes. Yes, new decision

848
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: makers who have come in to a large degree, Drew

849
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 5: Petzing probably knows Josh Dobbs a lot better, and he

850
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 5: knows Clayton Tune or Cole McCoy combined, so he might

851
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 5: could you don't know what the OC is thinking or

852
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 5: his comfortability factor with a Josh Dobbs versus the two

853
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 5: he currently has in the quarterback room.

854
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: Very interesting right now. But oh my goodness, when we

855
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: talk about what are you going to be watching? What

856
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: are you going to be watching against the Minnesota Vikings

857
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: when Saturday rolls around, Paul Calvic, where are your eyes

858
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: going to be? For me? Right now? I'm going to

859
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: be watching who's playing quarterback, who is playing quarterback, who's

860
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: out there actually taking these reps right now? And by

861
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: the way, how are they doing? This is me? This

862
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: is amazing the fluidity of what has transpired in the

863
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: last forty eight hours for the Arizona Cardinals and their roster.

864
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 5: If the forty nine Ers can trade away Trey Lance

865
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 5: because of the final pick in the draft, Brock Purty,

866
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 5: And at least those are the reports Trey Lance is

867
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 5: done with the Niners. If Washington against the Cardinals can

868
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 5: run out there a fifth rounder from last year's draft

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Speaker 5: who got all of one start last year and Sam Howe,

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Speaker 5: nothing precludes the Cardinals from doing any or all the

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Speaker 5: above that we just talked about. No, So, my eyes

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Speaker 1: If there is one guy that I'm actually gonna be

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Speaker 1: eyebowling one guy, it's gonna be bj Ojalai. Ooh good one. Bjo.

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Speaker 1: Happened to watch him out there today of course, going

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Speaker 1: against the Minnesota Vikings. A little one on one Paul

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Speaker 1: of really nice pass rushes in one on one. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I want to get this guy as many reps as

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Speaker 1: I possibly could. He could play a lot on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Guess what Dennis Gardek did not practice against the Vikings,

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Speaker 5: saving Collins making the position switch. Right, So if a

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Speaker 5: some good play on film, once again we come full circle.

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Speaker 5: Hashtag no allegiances Right, he was drafted high second round.

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