WEBVTT - Ep 10: The Nerd

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<v Speaker 1>Novel.

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<v Speaker 2>This show contains adult material and swearing. You have been warned.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God.

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<v Speaker 3>If this man has fucked my gay therapist when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in weak out begging to get my dicks up by him,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to screaming me I'm a savage.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you bored of modern dating? Meeting the same people

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<v Speaker 2>from the same apps in the same bar You've only

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<v Speaker 2>chosen because it's close to your house and you can

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<v Speaker 2>make your usual quick getaway. It's time to change the

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<v Speaker 2>narrative on how we find love. It's time to start

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<v Speaker 2>looking for love in all the wrong places. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>on a wild dating adventure, only picking people who are

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<v Speaker 2>the total opposite of my type. And after twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>of these dates in two months, will I find that

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<v Speaker 2>special someone? Or Well, this experiment proved that I should

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<v Speaker 2>just give up on dating all together. It's time to

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<v Speaker 2>find out. I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>dates later. Dan, Yeah, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I'm good. Last night I had the man thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to me cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like eleven thirty at night, and I come

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<v Speaker 3>back from the theater because I'm cultured, and the doorbell

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<v Speaker 3>rang and I opened the door and there was this

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<v Speaker 3>guy and he was like drawing a chat for a

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<v Speaker 3>bit and I was like, sorry, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And like he had his foot in the door. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't close the door.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was liked and it was actually quite bad,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like, yeah, you're real cuteh we chat

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, baby, I don't know you nah,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like come on, what's wrong this chat?

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<v Speaker 3>And then he was like look at this and showed

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<v Speaker 3>me a video of his girlfriend's sucking his dick. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he thought that I lived in like a gay brothel,

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<v Speaker 3>like I know my house looks a bit like a

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<v Speaker 3>gay brothel.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was like he was like do you work here?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like nah, I live here.

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<v Speaker 3>And then like to get him to go away, I

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<v Speaker 3>had to be like, look, my partner's upstairs, which isld

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<v Speaker 3>face line we wish and there he was like now,

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<v Speaker 3>but like take my number, like texting me and asking

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<v Speaker 3>him that text me. But it was like this like

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<v Speaker 3>DL guy like on the down load, like he's stray

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<v Speaker 3>but gay wanting sex so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just a bit like what.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really terrified?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, but he was a big guy as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a bit like and then and then I've

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<v Speaker 3>been like playing out in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, is there every a situation where like

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<v Speaker 1>I would have.

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<v Speaker 3>Been like, yeah, fuck it, that's a porn moment. Actually

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<v Speaker 3>now it was not cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it sounds like that kind of porn moment. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you mean, because once an edf man

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<v Speaker 2>came to my house. That's an energy person to anyone

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<v Speaker 2>that's not in the UK. But he was installing my

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<v Speaker 2>energy meter and he was so pang and then we

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<v Speaker 2>were like really flirting because he went and stood over

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<v Speaker 2>my kitchen counter, which he had no reason to be near,

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<v Speaker 2>and was like, your kitchen count is like so low.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went over and he was like why

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<v Speaker 2>is it so low? And I was like it's not low,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a normal height. Maybe you're just really tall

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why it feels really low.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I really thought we were going to fark

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<v Speaker 2>and then he lat no, but we do want to

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<v Speaker 2>find that. That would have been a great That was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really would thought you were gonna have sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my friend he had someone come around to fix

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<v Speaker 3>his washing machine. They did end up having sex, but

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<v Speaker 3>it meant that the guy didn't have time to fix.

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<v Speaker 1>His washing machine.

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<v Speaker 3>So then he his washing machine was broken for like months,

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<v Speaker 3>had to go to the launderer, which they don't show

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<v Speaker 3>you in porn.

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<v Speaker 2>The admin.

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<v Speaker 1>So hot, it'd be so hot.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would love something like that to happen to

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<v Speaker 2>me one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same, but not what happened to me the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>But something No, not like that, but more like the

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<v Speaker 2>DF man.

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<v Speaker 1>How is your day?

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<v Speaker 2>I went on a date with a guy who is

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<v Speaker 2>a self professed nerd, and he calls himself a nerd, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what that means. Yeah, I was just explaining because

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<v Speaker 2>some people, you know, aren't miss book like Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>As well read for those who don't understand what self

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<v Speaker 3>professed muse, it's a Latin.

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<v Speaker 1>For calls himself call himself.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, So basically he callses off a nerd, which is

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<v Speaker 2>very different to my type I have always gone out of,

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<v Speaker 2>like really laddie boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, mainly.

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<v Speaker 2>I will just say that for these of this bit, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll not actual footballers, but men who play fither side

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<v Speaker 2>football and men who like fucking play FIFA on their

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<v Speaker 2>laptop and championship manager.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they always do like their little they're perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Team which fantasy football, Fantasy league football.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's always been like my kind of guy. So

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<v Speaker 2>he is a nerd, and I didn't really know what

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<v Speaker 2>to expect, but I found him really easy to talk to,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe because stuck inside me is a nerd.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you need to stop eating nerds.

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<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't be as many nerds inside judge. A nerd

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<v Speaker 3>just means that you have a passion, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess like what he's doing by being clear about

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<v Speaker 2>that is he's preparing you that he's not a cool guy.

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<v Speaker 3>But like that's nice because sometimes like being cool is

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<v Speaker 3>caring too much about what other people find.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, and I actually like even though it was

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<v Speaker 2>really popular at school. But that's the last time I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned this.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've actually ever mentioned that every single episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually hate people who are desperate to people I

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually connect with them. I've been invited to so

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<v Speaker 2>many like fashion parties, and when I'm there, which I

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<v Speaker 2>very rarely go to, range too exactly exactly with like

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<v Speaker 2>my faded period of blood like on my jeans, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so uncomfortable there and I do feel more

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable with people like this guy. Absolutely, I can't go

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<v Speaker 2>out with someone who is badly dressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and also this is not to say that all

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<v Speaker 3>nerds dress badly, because also, what's dressing badly?

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<v Speaker 2>No, there's dressing badly dressing.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't mind seeing someone in the outfit that's

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<v Speaker 3>such a choice for them.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a sort of like distinctive look, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>try and change that. But I'm saying fucking non branded trainers,

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<v Speaker 2>ill fitting jeans, a fucking T shirt with the Rolling

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<v Speaker 2>Stones logo on it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're literally just describing what I'm wearing right now, joking, joking.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't be seen dead.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but there was a time where you wore that

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<v Speaker 2>exact outfit.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but my mum used to buy me five pound

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<v Speaker 3>trainers from like Tesco, and I wore them until I

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<v Speaker 3>was about twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fine, I'm not dating twenty three year old Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, I'm just saying I would date a nerd, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to make sure that they're, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like wearing good trainers.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree, Like, I think dating a nerd is so

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<v Speaker 3>much better than dating someone who thinks they're cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you think you're me than being like but

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<v Speaker 2>they would have to be cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Says you, who's actually talked about being cool at school

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<v Speaker 3>every single episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and am saying I could day a nerve. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to make them look cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you said.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a massive nerd, so traditionally, Like, well, that's so traditional.

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<v Speaker 4>Video games, board games and stuff like that, TV and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it just sounds it kind of just sounds

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<v Speaker 4>very generic. It sort of is you know, that's sort

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<v Speaker 4>of generic stuff. Oh now I'm kind of like self conscious.

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<v Speaker 2>Self conscious. I mean all I do is watching me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's the thing. When COVID came, I quite liked it.

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<v Speaker 4>It don't sound quite bad where because I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I you have to say inside. But it's like I

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<v Speaker 4>was quite happy, just like I had my computer, had TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everything was great. I mean so sweet, so sweet

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<v Speaker 1>and so pure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved COVID, like because I don't think anybody loved

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<v Speaker 2>that part of people dying. But I get that that

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<v Speaker 2>I watched all of our Housewives of Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>He sounds a bit like an old RSC actor. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's got quite like a good voice. It's quite nice.

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<v Speaker 3>It was from I do want to try out dungeons

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<v Speaker 3>and Dragons.

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<v Speaker 2>No, dungeons and Dragons is a huge fucking thing. Did

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<v Speaker 2>he mention that?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I want to like a friend of mine

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<v Speaker 1>the other day was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I played a movie coming out movie.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but like I kind of all like laughing. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to dress up and go to the words.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever done an escape room?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember doing an skate room with my family for

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<v Speaker 3>like someone's birthday, and I just pretended that I was

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<v Speaker 3>in one of the sore films. So the whole time,

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<v Speaker 3>like I wouldn't help with any clues. I was just

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<v Speaker 3>like screaming at the person on like the microphone who's

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<v Speaker 3>like watching us, be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us out, please stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then like I would pretend that I was being

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<v Speaker 3>tortured by something, but then actually my family would be

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<v Speaker 3>stuck in something and I'd be like, it's this like.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never done a skat ingom with my family, but

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<v Speaker 2>we just call it home.

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<v Speaker 4>I barely have time for me and the cat. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't have time for which is why like I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like I do dates, but I just don't do too

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<v Speaker 4>many because I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like, I don't have time for people.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't sound terrible, but I've told people that if

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't have my cat Sasha, I would be a

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<v Speaker 4>way worse place.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, probably true.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly Are you are you an introvert?

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<v Speaker 4>Would you say no, I'm a bit introverted for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just like because with the app field, I've got

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<v Speaker 4>into it mainly for like the poly aspect. Okay, sweet,

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<v Speaker 4>if I meet someone they've got someone that it's like, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a dream scenario for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Just because like.

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<v Speaker 4>They still have people that they can be intimate and

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<v Speaker 4>have a relationship with them, will have to take one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Of my time. Okay, I'm literally crying. That relationship he

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<v Speaker 1>has with his cat is honestly, he brought.

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<v Speaker 2>His cat on the day no no, no, I had

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<v Speaker 2>Eddie though, but of course for Christmas, so he did

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas him and his cat, and he loved it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he made him a Christmas dinner and made the cat

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<v Speaker 2>a Christmas dinner. Valentine's Day, he got his cat Valentine's card.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it got too much for a second, it's

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<v Speaker 3>turning against like Stephen King misery like slightly, But.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't know about that. I think it's really sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's really sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>A cat can't read.

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<v Speaker 2>Car I buy Eddie presents all the time, Like whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I go away, I bring her back a present.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, getting it, getting like a little dog toy. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>A cat can't read.

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<v Speaker 2>But sweet exactly, you don't know. I think it's sweet

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<v Speaker 2>that he's talking about this on a day. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what I liked about him. There was no kind of

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<v Speaker 2>shame in some of the things that I think, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sometimes embarrassed with how much I love my dog

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<v Speaker 2>and don't want to admit that I would kind of

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<v Speaker 2>be happy just me and her forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, well, this is the thing with the quote unquote

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<v Speaker 3>like nerdy person, Like they don't care so much about

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<v Speaker 3>what you think about them because they enjoy the things

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<v Speaker 3>and the life they have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. But then also what was interesting is then

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking about like dating people, and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't date. He basically just prefers dating people

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<v Speaker 2>who are already in a poly relationship so that he

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<v Speaker 2>can just see them maybe once every few weeks because

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't got time because he's got him and his cat.

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<v Speaker 3>But I love that it's like his main emotional connection

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<v Speaker 3>with his cat. But like if he wants has sex

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<v Speaker 3>with someone and he wants on.

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<v Speaker 2>The side, Yeah, exactly, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it ain't a bad life. But also, like

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<v Speaker 3>it is weird the attachment.

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<v Speaker 1>You get with a pet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I live with two cats and they're not even my own,

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<v Speaker 3>but my god, I'm so attached to the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's weird how much that attachment can fill avoid

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<v Speaker 2>that you would otherwise want to get from a human.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I was thinking about the other day. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the learning of someone. It's like, because they can't communicate,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to learn what they like, so like how

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<v Speaker 3>they like to be stroked, or like what sort of

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<v Speaker 3>things they enjoy doing. Like you learn that on like

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<v Speaker 3>a real like micro level, and that connection and time

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<v Speaker 3>spent learning what Sue enjoys is a nice thing. I

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy like knowing that, like my cat prefers being striked

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<v Speaker 3>on the head.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's let's keep it clean, please, getting of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I will not steal. This will not happen again. I

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<v Speaker 1>always say, like, listen, you've got to get back.

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<v Speaker 2>In the horse the ads to get bagging. You can.

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<v Speaker 1>I just say right now that I do not fuck animals.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said that thing about being interested in poly people.

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<v Speaker 2>I was that kind of interesting because I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've identified you as someone who doesn't really have that

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<v Speaker 2>go on dates. So then I asked him about what

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<v Speaker 2>his dating life is actually like, you know, then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, maybe a player.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but sometimes also like the freakiest people are the

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<v Speaker 3>ones that make a card for their count Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>So how was the daily he went on with the therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole date was making sure we were back to

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<v Speaker 4>my tough sex. That's basically all everything was leading up to.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And was that sort of mutually agreed thing, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>agreed before you mat Yeah, yeaheah quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's one of the first things we said.

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, yeah, let's look up Yeah, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess sounds very nothing about.

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<v Speaker 4>Not particularly I put in a lot of effort really,

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<v Speaker 4>But the great thing was that he did mention like

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<v Speaker 4>a particularly like a queer therapist website. I'm like, okay, sweet,

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<v Speaker 4>So I was looking through that the other day to

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<v Speaker 4>try and find her everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I swear to God, if this man has fucked my

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<v Speaker 3>gay therapist, I'm gonna scream. If that's a therapist that

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<v Speaker 3>he's talking about having sex with when I'm weak in

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<v Speaker 3>week out begging to get my dick sucked by him

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<v Speaker 3>and he's just fucking him, I'm going to be so.

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<v Speaker 2>Upset, especially on a podcast where all you've done is

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<v Speaker 2>speak about how much you want to fuck your therapist.

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<v Speaker 1>All you've done is say how cool you were at school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not siding on a pedestal headan and soundings

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<v Speaker 2>over eagle to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I'm just like you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, I can't keep saying I want to fuck my therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually don't. It's just it's that same. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>that porn situation, Like is I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, we hear you loud and clear, dance my

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<v Speaker 2>therapist shaking Dan, Dan, the microphone's shaking a bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is you sound just like my therapist right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he says to me in my sessions.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically for the past half of the day. I felt

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<v Speaker 2>really like calm and likely how I feel around straight

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<v Speaker 2>men with this man. And once he said that he'd

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<v Speaker 2>been on the date of the man, I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I feel so calm about you, because you

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<v Speaker 2>are either like bisexual, queer, I don't know. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, that's why we're getting along really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he sounds a little bit like a

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<v Speaker 1>little funck boy.

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest, a lot of my life I thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was homosexual cells on grinder a lot more. I

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<v Speaker 4>dated Marraman for like six months. Really, yeah, they were

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<v Speaker 4>sort of they was together, but only like a living together.

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<v Speaker 4>They fine, They emotionally separated a while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it was great.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the That was a fun time. You just

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<v Speaker 4>bought me everything. Really, I think I was four. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they'll buy my drinks all the time, taking out to

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<v Speaker 4>meals by me, all the drops. Everything was real fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and then because I was a young person and a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of an asshole, they didn't want to be with

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<v Speaker 4>me that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fun for a time, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the journey of South do. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 3>person's figuring themselves out, like if you were in popular school,

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<v Speaker 3>you care so.

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<v Speaker 2>Much about you, and then you wouldn't do some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that something you might have wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like at school, if I could have dated a

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<v Speaker 3>married man who is buying me stuff, that's all I wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially in your twenties for them to just pay

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<v Speaker 2>for everything. It's the dream.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just scared that now I'm too old to like

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<v Speaker 3>get a sugar daddy. How can you get a sugar

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<v Speaker 3>daddy if you are a daddy.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're not a daddy grow up. You're not even thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not a daddy grow up, So you want me

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<v Speaker 1>to be a daddy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, and I mean this energetically.

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<v Speaker 1>It's energetic, No, because you are very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Still in the baby era, like we are not even

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<v Speaker 2>in our thirties.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I know, but I just feel like sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 3>like not necessarily about age. It can be about like

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<v Speaker 3>size and energy. Like I'm a big old person.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a really self fulfilling prophecy that isn't true,

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<v Speaker 2>but that you're speaking into existence for yourself. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that to be true.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is the nicest conversation we've ever heard that,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm shouting, but I'm saying that because you're duel, that

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<v Speaker 2>you can never have a sugar daddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's I think sometimes it's like the thing of

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<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes it's like older bear, small little twink.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I think that's something that you have decided,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't believe that is true.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Wow, we're getting having a breakthrough today.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, can everybody leave the rough much? Because I think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to really.

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<v Speaker 1>Close the door? Thanks? And should I take off my

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<v Speaker 1>top for me?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to seem like the creepy male, and

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<v Speaker 4>like obviously I'm a nerd as well, so it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh god, do I look like one of these are

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<v Speaker 4>what they called a good guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Nice guys. I don't want to seem like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you have that by I really wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I think you've got like a good energy. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not straight, that you know means that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to costume.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I think if I make people and realize

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<v Speaker 4>I'm actually quite straight passing, sometimes I'm like, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 4>that's why I have to say things to certain people.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It's mad how much instantly like more like comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>and safe I feel with someone when I find out

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<v Speaker 2>they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, this is it's my shirt work. I ship

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<v Speaker 4>on straight men all the time and I'm like, no, they're

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<v Speaker 4>technically a protective class, so I can't really say anything

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<v Speaker 4>negative about them.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well, I mean I wouldn't worry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're fine, They're doing okay, but themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a very good point.

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<v Speaker 3>The amount of times I'm on like a pat tube

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like up against a woman and I have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it clear to her that day. Yeah, I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I love that jacket.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I'm walking home at night and it's dark

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<v Speaker 3>and it's late and there's a woman on the street

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<v Speaker 3>as well as she's in front of me, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it's just me like singing cabareting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy how much they do you feel there? Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know, I mean, I spend a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of my time with gay men because I obviously

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<v Speaker 2>prefer the.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It is interesting how I just enjoyed this day because

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like his energy put me at ease a

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<v Speaker 2>lot because I was like, well, I know that he's

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<v Speaker 2>not just wanting to like fuck me, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I sometimes I go for this thing where like

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<v Speaker 3>I'll put an outfit on and I'll be out and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be like, do I look straight? And every single

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<v Speaker 3>time people are like, you're the gayest person I've ever met?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you on about? No?

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<v Speaker 3>But you know sometimes what happens in gay bars. There

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<v Speaker 3>are straight men in gay bars kind of pretending to

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<v Speaker 3>be gay. But I've been out with like friends before,

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<v Speaker 3>my straight female friends in like a gay bar, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be chatting to someone feeling all comfortable with them,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they're like try and come on to them,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll be like, wait, I thought you were gay, And.

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<v Speaker 1>That's happened to me before.

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<v Speaker 2>That again, like is a fucking crazy thing. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>then manipulating that thing that I've just described, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like pretend that you're gay to laura women into this

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<v Speaker 2>safety and then try and get with them. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>happened to me before, and I've been like, what the fart?

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<v Speaker 3>It's so mad to think that like that foundation would

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<v Speaker 3>allow a woman to trust you and have sex with

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<v Speaker 3>because in like you're thinking that you're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>in a club attended to be gay, the woman's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be like, oh my god, that's so funny, let's

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<v Speaker 3>bang anywhere. Nah, because you've been lying the entire time.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly and you're creepy walking red flag.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, to be fair, I'm only gay for

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<v Speaker 3>work because it pays more. Okay, obviously I'm not sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but I have recently been like thinking more about the

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<v Speaker 3>box that you put yourself into when you come out,

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<v Speaker 3>Like when you're in the closet, you reges, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you come out you've become gay, and then at the

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<v Speaker 3>sometain point you're there like, well maybe I like football

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe like.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you want to you know, yeah, no, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not so this or that there is fluidity

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<v Speaker 1>in it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he was saying that a lot of his

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<v Speaker 2>life he thought he was completely gay and then has

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<v Speaker 2>explored other things more recently. And I think you know, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like being on a podcast to date with a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you met him, did you think that he

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be as like sexual explorative as he was?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it really did surprise me, and I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of what he's saying, of like putting people

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<v Speaker 2>in boxes, like I really wouldn't have Like when he

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<v Speaker 2>started talking about his like sex life, love life, I

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<v Speaker 2>was very I identified him all wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you date someone else who is a self profess nerd?

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone forgot what that definition is that means call themself

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<v Speaker 3>a nud?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I actually forgot what self professment? So thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for doing that. I think so. I think obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>as I've said, someone who calls himself a nerd, it

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<v Speaker 2>just means that maybe there are things that they're like

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with which I can relate to. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like people who try way too hard to be called

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<v Speaker 2>that is really I'll just finish my point, actually done,

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<v Speaker 2>but thank you. I don't know, but thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for being so excited by what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I jump into peoples coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still finishing my well why.

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<v Speaker 1>Is such a dramatic pause.

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<v Speaker 2>Play? But I think I would rather on the spectrum

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<v Speaker 2>of self professed nerd to like boy who wears Solomon

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<v Speaker 2>trainers and like loves to post about them and like

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<v Speaker 2>is desperate to show of the fact that he's got

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<v Speaker 2>like a fucking bike that you can like take the

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<v Speaker 2>wheels off of, like that kind of thing. I'd much

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<v Speaker 2>rather go out of someone who calls himself a nerd,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would need to in the course of the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship make them fashionable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and if anyone out there does like laughing, like,

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<v Speaker 3>let me know, because I want to dress like an

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<v Speaker 3>olf and go into the woods. And that's not a

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<v Speaker 3>sexual thing unless you want it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time. On twenty eight Dates Later, I Love how

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<v Speaker 2>with dog got sick and he's like, should I kean up? Like, yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a fucking pop rose.

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<v Speaker 1>The dog was so sick, like it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sick because.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what dogs are like, if they're sick, they

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear, and then the dog ate the sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my girls around for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a savage. They can hurt it are.

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