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Speaker 2: Oh is it great to be back with you as usual?

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, the twenty ninth of May. The years

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. Appreciate y'all being here as usual, Episode one

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Speaker 2: five seven of the Attic and Florian Podcast. Hope y'all

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Speaker 2: had a good Memorial Day weekend. If you spent it

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Speaker 3: Oh Man, Yeah, dude, finally did a little vacation. Haven't

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Speaker 3: At all, man. It's it's something you know, people who

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Speaker 2: And happy belated birthday obviously, and the weight making legend

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Speaker 2: People thought I was throwing shade at Darren Till. I

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Speaker 2: So can we quickly just acknowledge the city of Liverpool

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Speaker 2: Seemed like it was a special fight week for the UFC.

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Speaker 2: Even my daughter sitting down and actually watching a fight

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Speaker 2: certainly went above and beyond, so that was great to

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Speaker 2: stuff and where Darren Till goes from here. So Till,

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Speaker 2: I did give the fight to Darren Till three to two.

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Speaker 2: I did not go back and watch it. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: main event? And ultimately how did you score?

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Speaker 3: I scored it three rounds to two for wonder Boy.

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Speaker 3: you know, the fact that Darren Hill won this fight.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a huge problem with it. There's been

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Speaker 3: need to understand, anak, you know this better than anybody

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Speaker 3: watching it from the desk. Watching it octagon side is

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Speaker 3: You know, am I correct?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Ninety percent of the time.

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Speaker 5: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to punch a hole in this fucks

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Speaker 1: that's what I want.

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Speaker 5: The Ray long Minute d John Nik and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kenny, last week it was not the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 2: It was like the Ray Longo Health and Wellness Hour.

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Speaker 2: I threw out Mike Doritos, Well look at him now,

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Speaker 3: Look the blue eye.

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Speaker 6: What are you?

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Speaker 3: Who are you modeling?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 6: I took advantage of its sunny day today.

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Speaker 2: So we've been well, we start with your Instagram. It's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I doubt that, but thank you very much for

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Speaker 6: Is that okay?

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Speaker 2: Thank you with that slimming black T shirt. Not that

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Speaker 6: First of all, I'll get one quick thing. I actually

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Speaker 3: Ray, You know this year fighter are seven and one,

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Speaker 6: are on pds. They're like fifty and fifty they're like

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Speaker 6: you know, or even worse, they're not even winning and

435
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Speaker 6: they're literally cheating. They're cold cheats. These guys are cheatings

436
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Speaker 6: at this point. If they're not doing performance enhancing drugs,

437
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Speaker 6: they figured out another way to make it. This guy

438
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Speaker 6: was willing to give away his whole purse. What does

439
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Speaker 6: that tell you? He was willing to give away not

440
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Speaker 6: twenty percent, He wanted to give away his whole purse,

441
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 6: you know. So they really have to man come up

442
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Speaker 6: with something with because this looks like a problem. Like

443
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Speaker 6: you say seven to one and it was six or

444
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Speaker 6: o going into that fight. It's it's I don't it's

445
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 6: just not right, and you know, everybody's already forgotten about

446
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 6: he hasn't made weight. He didn't make weight. They already

447
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Speaker 6: moved past that.

448
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Speaker 3: And imagine a year down the line. Two years down,

449
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: no one's got to remember it. All they're gonna see

450
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Speaker 3: is the w by his name, l by wonder Boy's name.

451
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Speaker 6: That's the thing, you know, Kenny, it's not Kenny. It's

452
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Speaker 6: not two years down the line. It's two days now,

453
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Speaker 6: exact exactly, it's actually two days. It's already no forget

454
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Speaker 6: nobody's nobody mentions the weight at this point. It's it's

455
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Speaker 6: they're gonna have to come up with something because it

456
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Speaker 6: looks like, you know what, man, it's worth a couple

457
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Speaker 6: of thousand dollars here, and I feel better the win.

458
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Speaker 3: The win later on down the line is worth more

459
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Speaker 3: than losing thirty percent of your purse.

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Speaker 6: Right, without of doubt. So you know, we came up,

461
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 6: you know, somebody came up with a good point. Was

462
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Speaker 6: let him take five out. But you're making the weight.

463
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Speaker 6: We don't even care how long it takes, but you're

464
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Speaker 6: gonna make the weight. Yeah, that might not be a

465
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Speaker 6: bad idea.

466
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Speaker 2: Well, and then obviously that gets into a potentially dangerous territory.

467
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Speaker 2: But I think there's some merit to it. Honestly, Ray,

468
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: because for Steven wander Boy Thompson, right, this goes on

469
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Speaker 2: the ledger as a welterweight loss. And I don't know

470
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Speaker 2: if you heard us talking about Darren Hill's size, and

471
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Speaker 2: perhaps you can say that's neither here nor there because

472
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Speaker 2: he has made the weight more often than not. But

473
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Speaker 2: this guy is massive, man Like, it's gonna not be

474
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Speaker 2: easy for Darreuntil to make one seventy if he gets

475
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Speaker 2: to a championship fight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's what they're gonna have to worry about now,

477
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Speaker 6: and we'll see what happens from here, you know, here

478
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Speaker 6: here on out. But I mean, this was a big

479
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Speaker 6: fight for that kid, and I think it's a red

480
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Speaker 6: flag as to what's to come in the future. And

481
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Speaker 6: even though we got the w I mean, he really

482
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Speaker 6: is acting like he did something tremendous. I mean, he

483
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Speaker 6: really didn't do anything until the fifth round. So there's

484
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Speaker 6: a couple of areas that I do think. He's a

485
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Speaker 6: talented guy, big strong kid, and he's gonna bring it.

486
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Speaker 6: So I'm curious to see what happens with him in

487
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Speaker 6: the future. But that fight, I really thought it was

488
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Speaker 6: an easy fight to score and I would have scored

489
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Speaker 6: that for wonder Boy without a doubt, you know, But

490
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 6: like again, it was close, and I think what made

491
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 6: it intriguing is you had a power puncher against a

492
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Speaker 6: sniper who's an accurate counterpuncher, and at any given point,

493
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Speaker 6: just like in the fifth round, something could happen, and

494
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Speaker 6: that's what kept us in there. If we didn't have

495
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 6: that emotion involved that fight, I don't think would have

496
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Speaker 6: been that good of a fight. But you know, and

497
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Speaker 6: then again you got wonder Boy to consummate, nice guy professional,

498
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Speaker 6: you know. I texted him after one of his interviews, like,

499
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Speaker 6: I dude, you won the fight. Stop being a nice

500
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Speaker 6: guy about it. I know you had to think you

501
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 6: want to fight, but he's just such a good dude

502
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Speaker 6: that then they start saying, you know, it just gives

503
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 6: people another avenue to go. Well, even he said it

504
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 6: was like running right and.

505
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Speaker 3: Even during the fight that the fist bumping and the

506
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Speaker 3: congratulatory I hate that myself is a fighter, but wonder

507
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Speaker 3: Boy is so nice, right. I think that people were

508
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 3: kind of waiting for him to dude, it's a fight,

509
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: get out there and win those rounds.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

511
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Speaker 3: It was tough.

512
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Speaker 6: I think it's Pauly gave him great advice. Are you hurt? No,

513
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 6: then let's do something right. I thought, right, did a

514
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 6: great job with that, and let's let's pick it up

515
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 6: and make a statement. But uh again, it was a

516
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 6: chess match. He's a dangerous guy, you know, I'm, I'm,

517
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 6: I know, he's got to be very strong. But I

518
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 6: just thought it won. The boy controlled the first three rounds.

519
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 6: He he had to believe he was winning at that point.

520
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 6: And I can't see the other guy. I don't know,

521
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 6: it could be me. And again I looked at it

522
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 6: on my phone and then I might have saw one

523
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 6: round on TV when I got home. But uh yeah,

524
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Speaker 6: I thought it was uh but not you know, not

525
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 6: to the point of a robbery, because there wasn't a

526
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Speaker 6: lot going on. But wonder boy should have won that fight.

527
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 6: If that, if that fights in Vegas, it's the complete

528
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 6: opposite scores. I guarantee you complete opposite scores.

529
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Speaker 2: Let you go, and I know, yeah, sorry, man, No,

530
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Speaker 2: I'll give you as much time as you want. I

531
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Speaker 2: just want to get your thoughts.

532
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 6: On already, I've already been accused of ranting and not

533
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 6: let you guys get in, So please take the floor.

534
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: No, man, I'm captivated by everything out of your goddamn mouth.

535
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: You know that. But I want to talk about John

536
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: Balante very quickly because I believe this has been back

537
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: to back training camps for Valante where he hasn't been

538
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Speaker 2: able to use one of his primary training partners, Chris

539
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: Wyman all that often. I know he went to Cleveland

540
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: to train with Steve A. Miachick before the Frontie marble

541
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Speaker 2: Ho's fight. But he's got Sam Alvi this weekend. How

542
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: do you manage that? If you're John Balante, when you

543
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: lose a guy like Wyman who you've counted on for

544
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Speaker 2: the bulk of your five year UFC career.

545
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Speaker 6: Oh well, I tell you he's He definitely has guys

546
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 6: over at Fellmore. He's got some heavyweight boxes that he's

547
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 6: working with. He worked with Steve Bay obviously, which is

548
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 6: always a confidence boost because you know, if you can

549
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 6: hang with with that monster, you can hang with anybody.

550
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Speaker 6: But uh, you know Chris will be in his corner

551
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 6: with him, and he was coming to the gym a

552
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Speaker 6: couple of times and Chris put him through the paces

553
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 6: so good. Uh, I think he can manage it. I

554
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 6: don't think al He's the type of guy where you

555
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 6: know there's an urgency to get a lot of you know,

556
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 6: like it's gonna matter, you know. I mean, I think

557
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 6: Sam Alvey is very good, but uh, you know, it's

558
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 6: not like it's a championship fight or a ranked number

559
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 6: four guys. So I think I think he's gonna be fine.

560
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 6: He's definitely got people he could spail with. At Belmore

561
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 6: for the stand up in this, I'm assuming this fight

562
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Speaker 6: is going to be all stand up.

563
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Speaker 2: Yeah, big weekend for a couple former two division Ring

564
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: of Combat champions John Belonte Julio Arse also in action.

565
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Speaker 2: My man, all right, we'll let you go free bet

566
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: for you on the way out. I will give you

567
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: fifty dollars if you can tell me correctly who wins

568
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: the main event. Jimmy Rivera Marlon made this weekend. I'll

569
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: send you fifty bucks. You get it right, pick him

570
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: find to Las Vegas. So don't even have to pick how,

571
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 2: just tell me who wins because we got to go.

572
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Speaker 6: Marlon Murray second round, bo.

573
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Speaker 2: Marlon Madrice round two, you get it right? Fifty dollars.

574
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Speaker 2: A years from the Anakin Floring podcast. We love you, buddy. Sorry,

575
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: we're a little log jam today. We'll talk to you

576
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Speaker 2: in five days. Okay, all right, great.

577
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Speaker 6: Seeing you guys.

578
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: Thanks Ray, Ray Longo minute every week here on the

579
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: Anakin Florian Podcast. So to long Go's point, Kenny, we

580
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: didn't even lead the show with the weight discussion. And

581
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: I will just say this, my tolerance for this in

582
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: high profile fights is wearing very thin. And I know

583
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: Dominic Cruz and others have suggested that this is cheating,

584
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: But to me, when I woke up to this news

585
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: on your birthday, it's just like, are you gotta be

586
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: kidding me? Man? Like, it changes the whole complexion of

587
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: fight week, the main event, the welterweight pecking order, and

588
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 2: then you get this result and it just even you know,

589
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: compounds it further. So I don't know, I just feel

590
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: like in these fights, you sign it. I mean, Kenny,

591
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 2: the weight making legend, right, It's like, we see these

592
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: pictures of you at one hundred and forty five pounds

593
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: and I don't know, man, I know he had a

594
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: family emergency.

595
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Speaker 3: This is even worse. You are upset by it. I

596
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: was unfazed by it. That's I'm already over. I'm like,

597
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 3: here we go again. Oh well, what the hell are

598
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: you going to to do?

599
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 6: It?

600
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: Pisses me off. Something needs to be done. That's a

601
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: little bit more harsh on these fighters that aren't making

602
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: weight because you know they're taking they're taking advantage of

603
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: it at this point.

604
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, now, joining us live from Hawaii, ten

605
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: days after his most recent UFC win against Jared Cannoneer

606
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: light heavyweight contender, Dominic Rays is with us, Tom John

607
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: and Kenny here Man. Good to have you back on

608
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: the show. How are you, I'm good, guys.

609
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Speaker 8: How you guys doing well?

610
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: We are doing well. Well. We appreciate you breaking away

611
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: for a few minutes and interrupting your vacation. I'm not

612
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: sure what your expectations were going into this fight with

613
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: Jared Cannoneer, but all told, it lasted less than three minutes.

614
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: You've been a prolific finisher from day one, But how

615
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: confident were you going in against Cannoneer that not only

616
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: could you get him out of there, but you could

617
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Speaker 2: potentially do it pretty early.

618
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Speaker 8: I didn't really think it would be a first round

619
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Speaker 8: finish like that. I know I have the power and

620
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 8: the ability to finish early, but it wasn't something we're

621
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 8: looking at realistically based on his track record as far

622
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 8: as being finished. But I guess I'm a special kind

623
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Speaker 8: of fighter.

624
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: Well, and if you listen to our podcast last week,

625
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: you heard a lot of that. I mean, we both

626
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: think your ceiling is very high. I'm curious to see

627
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: you take your shots at some of this division's elite

628
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: right now. But to set it up for the listener,

629
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: so three and all in the UFC, not to zero

630
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: overall good amateur background. Ken Flull likes the IBJJF experience

631
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: as well. But it seems like you progressed in a

632
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: methodical way. But I also feel like you're a guy

633
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: that if you had to fight Daniel Cormier July seventh,

634
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: you train to beat that guy. Where are you right

635
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: now at twenty eight years old.

636
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Speaker 8: As far as where I'm at in my career?

637
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Speaker 2: Well where I mean if you had to fight a

638
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: top five guy or fight DC on July seventh because

639
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: Stepe was out, how competitive is that fight right now

640
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: versus how competitive it'll be when you're thirty one, thirty

641
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: two years old?

642
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I still way, I still got work to do, man.

643
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Speaker 8: Right now, it'll be a competitive fight because I'm a competitor.

644
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Speaker 8: But I'll win that fight for sure in the future.

645
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 8: I can win it now, I think, but you know,

646
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Speaker 8: you don't know until you get there. I like to

647
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 8: rise to the invasion, and I pushed to the next

648
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 8: limit constantly in my career. So whatever the next step

649
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Speaker 8: is for me, that's what I'm ready for.

650
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Speaker 3: You know, dominate.

651
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Speaker 8: I think I still have a ways to go.

652
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Speaker 3: I think that makes a whole lot of sense. Man. Again,

653
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: you know you don't have you know, twenty fights yet

654
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Speaker 3: you still only have nine fights. So I really like

655
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Speaker 3: that approach. I think that will definitely benefit you. But

656
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Speaker 3: who do you fight now? Because Cannoneer is a highly

657
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Speaker 3: respected fighter in that weight class. What do you think

658
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Speaker 3: is a realistic fight for you? In a fight that

659
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Speaker 3: makes sense moving forward?

660
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Speaker 8: Man, I don't even know. I called out Jordan Johnson.

661
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Speaker 8: That fight makes sense to me because we're both nine

662
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Speaker 8: and zero. That would be for to know that that's

663
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Speaker 8: the fly that makes the most sense to me at

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Speaker 8: the moment. But you know, pretty much anyone like top

665
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Speaker 8: nine and uh, I think I could have a competitive

666
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Speaker 8: fight with make it fun for the fans. But yeah, joy, Now,

667
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Speaker 8: I don't there's there's a lot of variables at this point.

668
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Speaker 8: We one that lasts by any pressive fashion. There's some

669
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Speaker 8: logistical things we have to take care of, and yeah,

670
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Speaker 8: I just got to enjoy the vacation first.

671
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Speaker 2: You know, go ahead, John, No, I was just gonna say,

672
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Speaker 2: we'll let you get back to the vacation in a minute.

673
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Speaker 2: I just want to follow up on that because it

674
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Speaker 2: sounds like you're taking a patient approach. And I know

675
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Speaker 2: you've had a lot of good supporters Joe Stevenson, parental support,

676
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Speaker 2: but it sounds like you're you're in the right mindset

677
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: where other guys are sort of trying to race to

678
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Speaker 2: the payday or the finish line flow all you can.

679
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I got my hope. I mean I

680
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Speaker 8: got five six more years after this. I want to

681
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Speaker 8: do it right, you know, I don't want to just

682
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Speaker 8: come in and be a flash. I want to build

683
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Speaker 8: myself correctly and take the right fights at the right

684
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Speaker 8: time and enjoy it. You know, when you're constantly fighting,

685
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Speaker 8: you're fighting guys that you probably shouldn't be fighting. It's

686
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Speaker 8: a lot more stressful than it should be.

687
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Speaker 3: You know, you have a great guy and a great coach,

688
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Speaker 3: who's been there and done that in Joe Stevenson. How

689
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Speaker 3: has he helped you in your career up to this point, DOMINICU, Oh,

690
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: he's been.

691
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Speaker 8: A great mentor for me, helping me avoid the pitfalls

692
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Speaker 8: that he made in his career. And also he's a

693
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Speaker 8: good person. You know, Joseph a great guy and having

694
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Speaker 8: that energy around is tremendous and as well as that experience.

695
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Speaker 2: Dominic Ray is with us here on the Aneicmploring podcast.

696
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Speaker 2: So when you look at the rest of twenty eighteen,

697
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Speaker 2: I mean once twice, how soon might we see you

698
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Speaker 2: back in the octagon?

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Speaker 8: I'd like to fight two more times, once in December

700
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Speaker 8: and once in between. Y yeah, get some more finishes.

701
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Speaker 8: Excite the fans, you know, if you know how heavyweight's fun,

702
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Speaker 8: man like, anything could happen me seconds well, And.

703
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Speaker 2: I think what's so I think what's so exciting is

704
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Speaker 2: just your ability to mix it up, the frame you

705
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Speaker 2: have for the division. I just think when people watch

706
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: you fight, they can sort of hang on to you

707
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Speaker 2: a little bit and say, you know what, when I

708
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: look at this two hundred and five pound division and

709
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Speaker 2: some of the you know, the older generation, if you will,

710
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Speaker 2: some of the guys that have been entrenched in that division.

711
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Speaker 2: I think the young blood is very exciting in what

712
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: has long been the UFC's glamour division. All Right, we'll

713
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Speaker 2: let you go on this. So we mentioned Joe Stevenson.

714
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Speaker 2: I know you probably know he fought my guy Ken

715
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Speaker 2: Flow back in two thousand and eight. I mean, has

716
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Speaker 2: that fight ever come up, tom or what.

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Speaker 8: Every once in a while I'll talk about things he

718
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 8: learned from the fight when he's teaching and Joe and

719
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Speaker 8: us things like, oh, when I fuck Kenny, this happened

720
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Speaker 8: like this, Well, yeah, it has.

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Speaker 2: Well, congrats man on an outstanding when you know you've

722
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Speaker 2: certainly got fans and us. We wish you all the best.

723
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Speaker 2: I know you're getting on that Joe Rogan experience too.

724
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Speaker 2: It's only a matter of time. So thanks for the

725
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Speaker 2: time today and we will talk to you soon.

726
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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your vaca.

728
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Speaker 8: All right, Thank you, guys, have a good day.

729
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Speaker 3: All right.

730
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Speaker 2: Dominic Ray is there with us. So it was November fifteenth,

731
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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. Kenny hates when I do this.

732
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Speaker 2: November fifteenth, two thousand and eight, UFC ninety one. This

733
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Speaker 2: was one of the greatest nights of my life, right,

734
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: I'm telling you it was right. It was one of

735
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: the first shows we did. It was MMA Live at

736
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Speaker 2: UFC ninety one, and our man Can Flow was fighting

737
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Speaker 2: in the co main event with a five fight winning

738
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Speaker 2: streak in tow. Basically, if he beats Joe Stevenson, he's

739
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Speaker 2: getting a championship fight, which later materialized against bj Penn

740
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Speaker 2: And we didn't have to wait for a second round

741
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Speaker 2: on this Lesner Coe Tour card, right, Ken full want

742
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Speaker 2: to get us right to brock Les and Randyktour. About

743
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Speaker 2: four minutes in, Joe Stevenson rear naked choke. We're partying

744
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Speaker 2: at Tao Asian Women No Tops. One of the greatest

745
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Speaker 2: nights of my life. Sorry what.

746
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Speaker 3: Oh man, you're killing me, dude, What do.

747
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: You got though?

748
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 3: Now?

749
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Speaker 2: I'm true, It is all true. I mean it's a

750
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: great night. Right, Like when you look back, when you

751
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: look back on your career, you had a lot of

752
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: big wins. I think the totality of that night and

753
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Speaker 2: that win and what it meant, I mean that that's

754
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: got to be one or two. Right, Wasn't that one

755
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: of the greatest wins?

756
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Speaker 3: It was real fun.

757
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is not going to start ranking his wins

758
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: right now. So in terms of Darren Till, his next

759
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: fight is not going to be for the UFC Welterweight Championship.

760
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 2: We have an interim championship fight happening twelve days from

761
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: now in Chicago. You also have Tyron Woodley as the

762
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Speaker 2: current champion, who will likely fight the winner of that fight.

763
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Speaker 2: So a little bit of a log j in there

764
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Speaker 2: to begin with, but this is gonna be viewed as

765
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Speaker 2: a welterweight win. Even though he missed waiting for Stephen

766
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: Warner Boy Thompson, this is gonna be something that he

767
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: has to build his way back from. And I know

768
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Speaker 2: you sort of made that underlying point with Ray Longo.

769
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Speaker 2: So for Darren Till, Dana says his next fight is

770
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Speaker 2: probably going to be in Las Vegas. I mean, what

771
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Speaker 2: do you think is next for the Gorilla Darren Till.

772
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'd like to see him against another grappler.

773
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Speaker 3: I think a fight like a Kamara Uzman makes a

774
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Speaker 3: whole lot of sense. If you want to put him

775
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: in there against a well rounded guy like a Santiago Pontsinibio.

776
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: There's Gunner Nelson out there if you want him to

777
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: match up against another good grappler in that division. I

778
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: think those are all fights that make a whole lot

779
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: of sense. I know he was going back and forth

780
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Speaker 3: with Gunny that they were gonna fight. Same with Kamaro Uzman.

781
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Speaker 3: There's Masvidal, I believe, who is looking for a fight still. Yeah,

782
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 3: so all those fights make a heck of a lot

783
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: of sense. And yeah, it's unfortunate that you know, that

784
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: headline of not making weight by four pounds is gonna

785
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: get buried over time. You know, with each week that passes,

786
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: people just forget about it. And again, all we see

787
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Speaker 3: is the w You don't really see all the things

788
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Speaker 3: that happened around that fight as you get further away

789
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Speaker 3: from that event. So it's unfortunate. Is Darren Till still

790
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: a great fighter?

791
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 8: Was?

792
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: I impressed? Absolutely? It was just unfortunate the way that

793
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Speaker 3: it went down. But I think we have a much

794
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: smarter Darren Till than we originally knew, And I think

795
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Speaker 3: he has a lot of potential. Man as far as

796
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Speaker 3: being a huge superstar in this.

797
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Speaker 2: Sport, Yeah, I think he's got superstar qualities, no doubt

798
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: about it. And maybe middleweight is the division for him,

799
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: I felt like I was looking at a one hundred

800
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: and eighty five pound fighter. But we'll see if he

801
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: makes some changes for his next fight, which will be

802
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: a big one. But speaking of big ones, now joining

803
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Speaker 2: us the former UFC middleweight champion, one of the greatest

804
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: to ever do it. The news broke on his podcast

805
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Speaker 2: Believe You Me Michael Bisping officially announcing his retirement, and

806
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: the great Michael Bisping now joins us and Mike, we

807
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: are so thrilled to have you for even just five

808
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: minutes today. But dude, the outpouring of love from the

809
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: MMA community after you announced this news on your podcast

810
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Speaker 2: has been a sight to behold. And I'm not sure

811
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Speaker 2: ten years ago you thought that it would go this

812
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: way when you retired. We just wanted to say off

813
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Speaker 2: the top, you deserve every goddamn tweet sense your way,

814
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Speaker 2: and we're very happy that it went down like this.

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Speaker 9: Hey guys, And first of all, yeah, you're absolutely right.

816
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 9: I mean it was kind of crazy. Yeah, the message

817
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 9: is the support, it's just been insane, it really has,

818
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Speaker 9: and I'm just truly honestly blown away by everything. Yeah,

819
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Speaker 9: it's weird, you know, I retire and then finally you

820
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Speaker 9: get all this all other love and positivity and I'm

821
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Speaker 9: just I'm really touched. I'm really blown away. It's incredible.

822
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 9: Lost for words, which isn't often that you'll hear me

823
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 9: say that, as I'm sure you know, but yeah, definitely

824
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 9: lost for words. And I want to take this opportunity

825
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 9: to thank everybody. My wife, first and foremost. She was

826
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Speaker 9: always in the corner, always believed in me right from

827
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Speaker 9: the day. What if it wasn't for her, we wouldn't

828
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Speaker 9: be having this conversation right now.

829
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Speaker 7: And that's a fact. My parents, my dad.

830
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Speaker 9: My dad always supported me above everything, drove me all

831
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Speaker 9: over the country as a child, been to every single

832
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Speaker 9: one of my professional fights, my dad, you know everyone

833
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Speaker 9: in the UK or my friends, and of course I've

834
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Speaker 9: got to give a special mention to my coaches, Jason Carrillo,

835
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Speaker 9: Brady Think, Darren Morris, there's a few of the people

836
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Speaker 9: over the years as well. They know who they are.

837
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Speaker 9: But yes, since I said it yesterday on my podcast.

838
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Speaker 7: I am I am blown away. I'm I'm charged.

839
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Speaker 9: It's yeah, I'm lost for words, and thank you, thank

840
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 9: you to everybody that you know said the nice comments.

841
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Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to follow your career and not have

842
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: respect for you. Man, You've done some amazing things things

843
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: in and out of the octagon. I know you've been

844
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: thinking about this decision for a very long time. I

845
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: know it was an easy thing for you. Do you

846
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: have a plan moving forward of what you're going to

847
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: be doing? Is coaching in your future? I know you

848
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: you really enjoy doing acting. What are the plans for

849
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 3: Michael Biscos.

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Speaker 7: Yes, to be honest, I'm very very busy. Can you

851
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 7: see me? Okay, yeah, perfectly, Okay, yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, then

852
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 7: you see how shitty that looks, you know, the.

853
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 9: The the the eyeball was definitely but one of the

854
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 9: reasons why I retired. So and now I'm retired, I

855
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 9: can get these fakes in hopefully not walk around looking

856
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 9: like a fucking cyclope.

857
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 7: That's the reality of the situation. Yeah.

858
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Speaker 9: Tons of things going on outside of the Oxagon that

859
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Speaker 9: I'm very excited about.

860
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Speaker 7: I'm involved with the company called play Line. I'm out

861
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 7: here in Connecticut right now attending some big meetings. I'm

862
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Speaker 7: involved the company called Timmy Coyn.

863
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Speaker 9: I've got UFC gyms, and of course I do a

864
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 9: lot of acting as well.

865
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 7: The acting is where I'm putting a lot of my energy.

866
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 9: I've got a couple of big movies coming out next year,

867
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 9: got a movie coming out soon cut Triple Threat, so

868
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 9: you know, I'm doing well in that side of things.

869
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 9: Fighting has been an amazing platform for me. I am

870
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 9: a fighter at heart. That's what I do, That's what

871
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 9: I love to do. That's who I am, that's my identity.

872
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 9: And I still still you know, just saying it makes

873
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 9: me sad.

874
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 7: You know.

875
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 9: Dany just called me before and he said, is this

876
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 9: true what I'm hearing? And I was like, I almost

877
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 9: wanted to go back on it, you know, and trying

878
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 9: to dig myself out of that tunnel, you know what

879
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 9: I mean.

880
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 7: I'm like, well, I don't know. Maybe maybe I'll. I

881
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 7: truly will.

882
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 9: I have achieved much more than I ever possibly dreamed

883
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 9: of through mixed martial arts. I've made some amazing friends,

884
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 9: some incredible friendships. I've changed as a person. I've grown

885
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 9: as a person. I've fought all over the world. I've

886
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 9: given my family a good life, which is why I

887
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 9: did this. I left school at sixty with not a

888
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 9: lot of options, you know, and this has provided me

889
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 9: with a platform to really make something of myself and

890
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 9: reached my full stability. You know, I'm here now. I'm

891
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 9: involved with these different businesses that would have never happened.

892
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 9: People would have given me a shot. You know, I've

893
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 9: been able to open doors. So I'm grateful for everything,

894
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 9: Thankful to the UFC, thankful for the friendships I've formed.

895
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 7: And yeah, that's about it, I guess.

896
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 9: You know, it's very very sad seeing all these messages

897
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 9: coming on Twitter and things like that.

898
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was really sad. It was really sad.

899
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 9: I've sat at the bar yesterday just having a quiet

900
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 9: beer by myself and I could have almost shed a

901
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 9: tear honestly.

902
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 7: So yeah, and.

903
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 9: Who knows, maybe there'll be a here on to you

904
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 9: along the way yet, but it's still very raw, so

905
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 9: to speak.

906
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 7: But uh, yeah, it sucks. It's SuDS.

907
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: You've just made such a profound impact. My twin brother

908
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: couldn't give a rip about mixed martial arts and called

909
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: me right away. I mean, you really have just had

910
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: such an influence I think on a lot of UFC

911
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: fans and American UFC fans too, a lot of whom

912
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: may be not unlike you, hating me early right, they

913
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: didn't like you, and they really grew to love you

914
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: and respect you because you did it cleanly. And I

915
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: just think that the outpouring of respect is something that

916
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: that you deserved. And as I sort of set off

917
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: the top, there was a time, Mike where maybe it

918
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: wasn't going to play out this way and the fact

919
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: that you capped this whole thing with the with the

920
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 2: UFC Championship is is just incredible, man, it really is.

921
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 7: Well, thank you very much. Guys.

922
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 9: You know I I you know, listen, you know me,

923
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 9: I'm not the deepest, most profound person, but I guess

924
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 9: you know I'm living proof to anybody with a dream

925
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 9: that's willing to put the hard work in can achieve

926
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 9: what they want to.

927
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 7: You know.

928
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 9: I mean, I want I tell my children this all

929
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 9: the time, and any young kids listening, any aspiring martial artists,

930
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 9: any aspiring aspiring artists, actors, businessmen, whatever it is. If

931
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 9: you've got a dream, you've got a vision, and you're

932
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 9: willing to put the hard work in and make the sacrifices,

933
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 9: you can do anything you want to in this life.

934
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 9: Jesus Christ, and I am living proof of that. Everybody

935
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 9: wrote me off. Everyone said I couldn't do it, everyone

936
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 9: said I wasn't good enough. I started doing this when

937
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 9: Emma in England. People hadn't even heard of it.

938
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 7: You know. But I had a dream. I had a vision,

939
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 7: and you know I made the most of it.

940
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 9: So listen, if I can do it, anyone can do

941
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 9: it in their chores and field.

942
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 7: So you know, dream bigger, ladies and gentlemen. That's what

943
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 7: I did.

944
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 9: I always had my goals, my eyes set on this target,

945
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 9: and I achieved it.

946
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 7: So yeah, you have.

947
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: The opportunity to sit next to me on the desk.

948
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 9: I mean, hey, listen, that is my life on my career, Kennyth,

949
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 9: sitting talking to you and you know, getting fashion.

950
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 7: Tips, hearing you're just choak it into greatness.

951
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: It's amazing at the time that other stuff you did,

952
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: I guess UFC Champ whatever, Ultimate Fighter Champ that those

953
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 3: are cool.

954
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 7: Two yeah, yeah, no bad, no bad.

955
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: Well, total inspiration. Man. I know Hollywood is calling, but

956
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: as I've said to you privately, I hope to see

957
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: you to my right calling fights at some point in time. Man.

958
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: I put you up against any TV analysts that we have,

959
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: and you know that we look forward to your UFC

960
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame induction whenever that goes down. Michael bisbeing

961
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: congratulations to you, to the family, and hopefully you guys

962
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: can take some time to enjoy this decision because you

963
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: deserve Thanks.

964
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 7: Guys, I really appreciate it.

965
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 9: Keeping the good work on the podcast, and once again

966
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 9: just want to say, you know, thank you to everyone

967
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 9: to supporting me along the way, everyone in the UK

968
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 9: and around.

969
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 7: The world that supported me.

970
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 9: If it wasn't for that support, you know again, I

971
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 9: wouldn't have achieved achieved half of what I have done,

972
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 9: So thank you to everybody. It's bits and sweet. Thanks

973
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 9: all the kind messages and thanks to my wife ChIL

974
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 9: Dreim Love you all.

975
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 7: And yeah it's a sad day for me, but it's

976
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 7: a necessary day.

977
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: It's well deserved.

978
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 6: Man.

979
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: Congratulations and safe travels out there. Hope to see us soon, dude.

980
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 7: Cheers, guys, keep it up all the best.

981
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy. All right there, he is Michael bisbaning

982
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: future UFC Hall of Famer with us here on the

983
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: Anak and Florian podcast, and at one point we're going

984
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: to trot out the audio two of him telling me

985
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: Kenny on his podcast how much he hated me and

986
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: that he wanted to fight me ten years ago. No,

987
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: I'm serious, I'm telling you no. We talked about it

988
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: on this show in the past, but when he had

989
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: me on his podcast, he said, full disclosure, I wanted

990
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: to fight you. I told my wife I was going

991
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: to fight you if I saw you in person. So

992
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: I'll get with Ben, Withsork, we'll trot out that audio.

993
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: It's awesome during one of these slower weeks going forward,

994
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 2: But we were talking about Darren till Big Picture, Kenny

995
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 2: and this whole sort of weight missing epidemic and everything

996
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: that has happened with these high profile fights during fight week.

997
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 2: Is there any conclusion to be drawn as to why

998
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: it seems and I don't even know if there's data

999
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: to back it up that it seems to me like

1000
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: it's happening in the in the main events and the

1001
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: co main events and the high profile fights that everybody's

1002
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: paying attention to.

1003
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: It's tough to say, man, Honestly, you know, there really

1004
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: is no excuse. Do the guys in the main event

1005
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: have more media obligations and things to do, you know,

1006
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: above and beyond just kind of showing up on fight Night. Yes, absolutely,

1007
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: they have to do a little bit more than everybody else.

1008
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: But still there is no plausible excuse for missing weight

1009
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: like this. You are a professional fighter. It's been determined

1010
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: what weight class you're in, probably years ago. You signed

1011
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: the contract to fight out one hundred and seventy pounds.

1012
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: What the hell is going on? I think that the

1013
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: UFC needs to get together and figure this out and

1014
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: figure out something where they have some kind of punishment

1015
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: that's a little bit more harsh than what they're doing

1016
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: right now. And it's tough because we want to see

1017
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: these fights. Realistically, what you do is you go, you

1018
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: know what, the fight is over. You're not gonna fight, period.

1019
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: You're not gonna get paid for what you just did.

1020
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: You worked your ass off for this camp. The fight's

1021
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: not happening. The problem is everyone's upset about that. Right,

1022
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: we want to see these fights, But how do we

1023
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: move forward and see these fights and have the appropriate

1024
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: punishment at the same time. Do we have a fight

1025
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: where it's an automatic no contest. I don't know if

1026
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 3: that's the answer either. I just don't know how to

1027
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: really go about this. It's gonna take a little bit

1028
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 3: of you know, putting your heads, putting several heads together

1029
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 3: and coming up with a good solution for everybody.

1030
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: Well, and it seems like there are a lot of

1031
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: people out there that feel like they're all knowing when

1032
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: something like this happens, right, they say, Oh, it's only

1033
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: three pounds, what's the big deal? And then the other

1034
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: side of it is that it's cheating. So I'm not

1035
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: gonna sit here and try to quantify what type of

1036
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: advantage which this was or wasn't for Darren Till, he

1037
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 2: still had to reweigh a one hundred and eighty eight pounds.

1038
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: All I'm telling you as a non fighter is that

1039
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 2: he looked fucking huge compared to the guy who's fighting over.

1040
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 3: Okay, he looked massive. He looked massive, And you know

1041
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: what else didn't help the fact that Darren Till was

1042
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: out there and he told someone that he had like

1043
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: forty pounds plus to lose something ridiculous. Recently, an inter

1044
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: of you, what are you doing? What is going on?

1045
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: If that is truly the case, What the hell are

1046
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: you doing in the offseason? You're one hundred and seventy

1047
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: pounds right anyways.

1048
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: Right, so real quick, Kenny. As far as the scoring

1049
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: is concerned. I think the big issue is the four

1050
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: to one for Darren Till from two judges. Right, And

1051
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: you sort of mentioned the judges and the influence of

1052
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: the crowd and the atmosphere. And I'm trying not to

1053
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: be labor the hell out of this, right, but would

1054
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: it be so hard to have the judges with thoughtless

1055
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: monitors with noise canceling headphones, like in a back room somewhere.

1056
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean, they should not be privy. I don't know

1057
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: why they need sound. Tell me why they need someund.

1058
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: We've been talking about this forever, man, We've been talking

1059
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: about this forever. They need to be isolated some kind

1060
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: of like booth that they're in. You can keep the

1061
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 3: same location, get a monitor, you know, take the sound

1062
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 3: away absolutely, because those are all things that are going

1063
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: to influence the judges and maybe giving them all the angles,

1064
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 3: you know, then it gets tricky, well what angle should

1065
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: they have out there while they're watching? But regardless, I

1066
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: think taking the sound away, you know, and I really

1067
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 3: think the monitor will help. Watching it on television, as

1068
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: we've talked about, just gives you a completely different perspective.

1069
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: And of course, the number one reason why we watch

1070
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: the monitors. Is because we're trying to articulate what is

1071
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: happening to the viewers that are getting either angle at

1072
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: that time. So I mean, and I've talked to Joe

1073
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: and you and I talked about this. You have the

1074
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: greatest seat in the house, and yet you're watching a

1075
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: little monitor in front of you right Like, I'll tell you,

1076
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: the only time I really cheat it is when it's

1077
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: the heavyweights, because because when Francis and Ghana, you know,

1078
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: is fight Noalyista Overeman Detroit, Michigan, and I'm sitting that close,

1079
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Speaker 2: you know what, Like, I don't know how long I'm

1080
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: gonna do this. I hope for a long time, but

1081
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: it might be the last time I get to see this.

1082
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: I think I need to watch Francis and Gano and

1083
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: we've not got in real time.

1084
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1085
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: So I also prepared all the significant strike stuff for today,

1086
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: but we're not gonna have time to get into all

1087
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: of that. But we will get into all of that

1088
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: over the next few weeks, just in terms of what

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00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: qualifies as a significant strike, some stuff on unofficial Well,

1090
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: I know, and I know you're so glad we're not

1091
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: doing it today, but just in terms of like the

1092
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: unofficial stats. I just like the fight metric guys have

1093
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: told like an unofficial stat. They're trying to get it

1094
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: right eighty to eighty five percent of the time, and

1095
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: judges judge stats measure is sort of the thesis statement.

1096
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: So there's a greater conversation about people getting real bogged

1097
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: down with stats. I don't even offer a stat on

1098
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: the broadcast without saying that it's unofficial. Okay, but we

1099
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: can't get into all of that today. We're just going

1100
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: to have to do it next week because it is

1101
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: time to transition to UFC Fight Night, rivera versus Modice.

1102
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: Let's get to the main Event Challenge.

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00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 5: It's the main event challenge.

1104
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: The time is most definitely named Flori.

1105
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 7: I finished, fine, how do you everything, boss?

1106
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 5: We'll do win the main Event Challenge to John Hennick

1107
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 5: and Kenny Florian podcast.

1108
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: All right, Main Event Challenge time at UFC Utica. Our

1109
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: guest picker today Kenny is Wade Roberts. He sounds like

1110
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: a keeper. Here's what he wrote in his email, Kenflow

1111
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: and a Florin podcast at gmail dot com. I'll venmo

1112
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: you and Kenny twenty dollars each to jump the queue.

1113
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: I have a great feeling about the noons versus Pennington

1114
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: car so we didn't get him for that pay per view,

1115
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: But he says, I know a Boston college graduate is

1116
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: willing to accept some cash under the table.

1117
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: So yes, but it was supposed to be two hundred dollars.

1118
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: We'll talk, let's.

1119
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't even think. I don't know. Kenny

1120
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with twenty dollars bills, necessarily

1121
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: Wade Roberts. But Wade did not jump the queue and

1122
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: he joins us today. Good to have you with us, man.

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00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: It looks like three one nine. Is that the great

1124
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: state of Iowa?

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00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 10: That is I actually live in Arizona, but I've had

1126
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 10: the same phone number.

1127
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we appreciate the time and your listenership,

1128
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: of course. As for the standings, another big week for

1129
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: Team Anaki Flow in Liverpool, the United States Navy's Jonathan

1130
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 2: Salgato got some picks in before his next deployment. He

1131
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: beat the Flow six to three. You want to know why,

1132
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: and maybe I got to adjust this scoring a little bit,

1133
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: but he got four points on Darren Till, his underdog,

1134
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: because he picked him to win by decision so he

1135
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: gets the two for the dog, the round, the method,

1136
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 2: and it's a six to three week. The overall lead

1137
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: sixty four to forty eight, biggest lead in main event

1138
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: challenge history. But it is not yet June first. It

1139
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: is not yet June one. June one is this Friday,

1140
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: and that is when you can see the fights we

1141
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: are going to talk about now on FS one light

1142
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: heavyweight smiling Sam Alvi, the minus one forty favorite John

1143
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: Belante coming back at plus one ten, Wade Alvi or Volante.

1144
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 2: For you, the floor is yours.

1145
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 10: I'm gonna go with the Belante. Thing I know for

1146
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 10: sure on this fight is that it's going to end

1147
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 10: in the knockout. So it's pretty up in the air

1148
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 10: on which one of those guys was gonna win. But

1149
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 10: as far as athleticism, I think Valante was the edge,

1150
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 10: and I really like his team, So I'm gonna go

1151
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 10: Jean Blante, second round knockout, all.

1152
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: Right, John Blante by second round knockout for Wade Ken

1153
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: Flow forty fourth pro fight for Sam Alvi, coming off

1154
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: that big win over Marching Practio that was his return

1155
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: to two hundred and five pounds. He says that he

1156
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: weighs less fighting at two h five on Fight Night,

1157
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: Kenny than when he fought at one hundred and eighty

1158
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: five pounds, because that's the type of shape he's in

1159
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: now and just leaner overall. Better question is for you

1160
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: flow Alvi or John Blante this weekend.

1161
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 3: First of all, I need points, and for me, Valante

1162
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: is a little bit more reckless than Alvi. Valante makes

1163
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 3: me so nervous when he's exciting to watch, but man, defensively,

1164
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: you know, he really has to be careful. Alvi hits

1165
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 3: extremely hard, does as well. I just think defensively, Valante

1166
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 3: has a little bit more holes and Alvi just has

1167
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 3: that surprising shot that comes out of nowhere. I think

1168
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 3: he's gonna be able to land it.

1169
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: And Alvi does have the much better UFC record if

1170
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: you care, nine and five in the UFC and he's

1171
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: only been finished twice in forty four pro fights. Derek

1172
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: Brunson got Alvey in the UFC and then a submission

1173
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: lost back in twenty ten. So Sam Ali hard got

1174
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: to put away. We'll see if Avalante can do it

1175
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 2: this weekend, all right, welterwait guys. Jake ellen Berger minus

1176
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: one seventy, the favorite, the plus one forty dog Ben

1177
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: Saunders twentieth UFC fight for ellen Berger last win though

1178
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: against Matt Brown, that was back in July of twenty sixteen,

1179
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: and Wade here ellen Berger ending a year plus layoff

1180
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: against the fellow veteran Saunders, who takes this one for

1181
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: you with.

1182
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1183
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 10: So, like you said, I did a little bit of

1184
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 10: research and saw that ellen Berger has dropped seven of

1185
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 10: his last nine. It's two legends going at it, striker

1186
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 10: vers grappler, and I think I'm I think that Saunders

1187
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 10: is to keep this one standing. I think Saunders gets

1188
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 10: the TKO in the third round.

1189
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: Saunders by TKO. So Wades barking with dogs here early, Kenny,

1190
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: you like Saunders or Ellenberger?

1191
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: This is a tough one for me. You know, Saunders

1192
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: is huge for the division. Ellen Burger. It's gonna be

1193
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 3: tough for him to get on the inside. If he's

1194
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: able to get on the inside, I could see him

1195
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: landing a big shot and getting a knockout. I just

1196
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 3: think Saunders is going to be able to get this

1197
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 3: one of the mat or to get to the clinch

1198
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 3: safely where he can use those knees. I think Saunders

1199
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 3: gets it done all right.

1200
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: Co main event Gregor Gillespie prohibitive favorite here minus five hundred.

1201
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: Vince Paschelle told me yesterday he is going to bet

1202
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 2: thousands on himself because he is plus three seventy five.

1203
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: So one thousand bucks for Vince on himself will return

1204
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 2: thirty seven hundred and fifty bucks plus his initial thousand.

1205
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: So the injury history for Vince Pachelle certainly well documented.

1206
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: I think at this point this though his third fight

1207
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: inside a year. I think that's encouraging, but a huge,

1208
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: huge test here in Gregor Gillespie, Wade. Who do you

1209
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: like in the Komain?

1210
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 10: Well, I think Michelle is probably gonna lose a lot

1211
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 10: of money if he does end up betting on himself,

1212
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 10: because I don't think he's gonna lose I mean to

1213
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 10: anybody outside of the top ten. You know, his wrestling

1214
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 10: is just top tier. So I'm gonna take Gillespie. I

1215
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 10: think he's gonna dominate for three rounds and I'm gonna

1216
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 10: take him by decision.

1217
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: Kenny, when we talk about guys to challenge Kubib, Normago,

1218
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: Mattov and and dark horses in this lightweight division, you know,

1219
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: oftentimes I'd land on Gregor Gillespie. He is eleven and zero.

1220
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: He has been very dominant in the UFC, and as such,

1221
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, Vegas has installed him as a big favorite here. Ultimately,

1222
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: your thoughts on Gillespie big picture and how you see

1223
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: him going against Vince Pachell on Friday.

1224
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: Gillespie makes mistakes. He does make mistakes because he's so aggressive,

1225
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 3: but it's also what makes him so tough to beat.

1226
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 3: This guy. He's not as big as a Evenrmaga Madoff,

1227
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: but the pace that he keeps is very similar. This

1228
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 3: guy is NonStop when he's on his game. He really

1229
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 3: is like a hot knife through butter. It's Pichelle. I

1230
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: think he might be able to get the upset here.

1231
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: I'm a huge Pichelle fan. I think he's a great dude,

1232
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: a tough fighter who might be able to get the

1233
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: upset win. I just think for Gregor, I think he's

1234
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 3: gonna play it safe here. I think he's gonna use

1235
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 3: his wrestling, get on top and from there look for

1236
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 3: an arm try, you know, look for that arm triangle

1237
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: on the ground, or look to beat him up with

1238
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 3: ground and pound. If Pichelle doesn't get it done early

1239
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be tough for him to get

1240
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: a finish over Gregor. I gotta go with Gillespie here.

1241
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gillespie's an interesting guy to really avid fisherman. I

1242
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: think he might be a better fisherman than he even

1243
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: is a fighter, And it's always interesting for me. I

1244
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: talked to all of these guys on Memorial Day Monday,

1245
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: getting ready for fight week this weekend. And you talk

1246
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: to a guy like Balama Ahmed who is training through

1247
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: Ramadan right now and wants to fight six times a year,

1248
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: and Gillespie is eleven to zero on the brink of

1249
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: the rankings, and you know he's like, oh, you know,

1250
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: after this fight, he wants to go on a couple

1251
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: fishing trips. And I respect that a lot and the

1252
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: balance that he has struck. But some of these guys

1253
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: are just so obsessed on that belt and fighting as

1254
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: often as like Blamaha wants to fight six times this year.

1255
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: I mean, so different strokes for different folks. But when

1256
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: Gillespie is on Kenny, as you put it, certainly a

1257
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: knife through butter right. Main event title eliminator. I guess

1258
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: of sorts one hundred and thirty five pounds Jimmy Rivera

1259
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: with that twenty fight winning streak in tow taking on

1260
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: the fellow one hundred and thirty five pounds contender, Marlon Medice.

1261
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: So there's some heat here between these two. That's something

1262
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: that we like, I think going in Vegas having a

1263
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: hard time picking a favorite. As we mentioned minus one

1264
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: p fifteen on both sides. That is at least how

1265
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: we sit here Tuesday night, Wade, So who are you

1266
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: going with in the main event, Jimmy Rivera or Marlon Madice.

1267
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm really surprised that this is a pick them.

1268
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 10: I know that when it opened up, Maria's was the favorite.

1269
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 10: I mean, excuse me, uh, Rivera was the favorite. I

1270
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 10: see Jimmy Rivera winning this one. I think he's in

1271
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 10: that same top tier with the dill Shaws and the

1272
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 10: cruises and the Guard brands, and I think he's just

1273
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 10: gonna outpoint him. He's not really a huge finisher. So

1274
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 10: I'm thinking that Jimmy Rivera pulls this one off, It

1275
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 10: goes and wins the decision and then gets his title shot.

1276
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: All right, Jimmy Rivera by decision for Wade, Kenny Rivera,

1277
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: Madai Sullippy I'm.

1278
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 3: Gonna go with Marlon Marice. I think he gets a

1279
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: knockout around round three. I think he's just a little

1280
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: bit more dynamic than Rivera. I could absolutely see Rivera

1281
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 3: getting a decision win. I think his wrestling that aspect

1282
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: is something that where he's definitely gonna have the advantage

1283
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 3: over Marie. I think he's also he knows how to

1284
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: get in and get out and be safe. But I

1285
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: think Maris has a tendency of drawing you out of

1286
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: faint lot and being able to counter and take advantage

1287
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 3: of those faints. I think Marie will get it done here.

1288
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: And they paid Marlon but Ice. He was one of

1289
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: the more heralded free agent signings for the UFC over

1290
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: the last several years. Came on in twenty seventeen. They

1291
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: threw him right to the Wolves, lost that split decision

1292
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: to haf A El at Sansao, but got the better

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01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: of John Dotson on points, and then of course the

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01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: knockout recently against al Jamaine Sterling, setting him up for

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01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: a big main event here against Jimmy Rivera. You can

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01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: see it Friday night on FS one. All right, very

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01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: quickly here way because ken flow needs points we're doing

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01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: quick picks, fellas. I know you got places to be

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01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: quickly here, guys on the main cart at heavyweight, Walt

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01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: Harris minus three point forty, Daniel Spitz coming off his

1301
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: first US he went over Anthony Hamilton coming back at

1302
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: plus two to sixty. Wade. Who do you like at

1303
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: heavyweight Harris or Spitz? I like Walt Harrison that one

1304
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: Walt Harris. Of course, Harris's last fight, Kenny, you remember

1305
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: that controversial head kick at the end of it. He's

1306
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: on a DQ loss because of it. To Mark Godbeer.

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01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: You think Harris rallies here and gets a w h Yeah.

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01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 3: I think Harris gets it done. I like this matchup

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01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 3: for him, all right.

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01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 2: Main card matchup next in the featherweight division Tiger Schulman

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01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: product Julio Arsey He's won six in a row. Favored

1312
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: here against Daniel Tamer. Tamer plus one forty Julio r

1313
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: S minus one seventy Wade. Who do you like?

1314
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 10: I'm taking Julio Uray in that one.

1315
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: Are safe for Wade, Kenny r Say versus Daniel Tamer

1316
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: Arse as well, are safe for the flow. Daniel Tamer's

1317
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: brother David, also on the spight card against Nick Lentz.

1318
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: Finally big fight for the flyweight women Flow number two

1319
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: versus number three in the world. So jar U Banks

1320
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: minus one fifty five for her UFC debut, Lauren Murphy

1321
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: slight dog at plus one twenty five. Wade Roberts, who

1322
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: will it be?

1323
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 10: I'm taking cijar U Banks. I think that she should

1324
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 10: be the champion right now. She probably still lose to Valentina,

1325
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 10: but I'm taking Sijar on this one.

1326
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: Yep U Banks. For Wade Kenny, you go in the

1327
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: same way or well, yeah.

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01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: I think you. Banks just has a little bit too

1329
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 3: much nasty for for Lauren Murphy, Uh.

1330
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: Yuh, all right, good stuff. Six picks from the Flow

1331
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: and Wade Roberts. Wade, thank you for listening, buddy, Thank

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Speaker 2: you for the.

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01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 10: Time, yod thanks for having me.

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01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: All right. Judica Friday Night quick turn for the UFC

1335
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: Sunday Night Show. Friday Night Show, Before we Go can Flow.

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Speaker 2: The City that God Forgot Judica, New York. That's that's

1337
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: one of the nicknames, The City that God Forgot. I

1338
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: got to do some research, but I will open the

1339
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: broadcast on FS one. Well no, I mean, I.

1340
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Speaker 3: Don't know God forgot.

1341
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: But I think that what I can glean though, is

1342
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: that it's sort of affectionate to the people at this

1343
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: point in time, so they don't feel like they were

1344
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 2: abandoned by God necessarily. But the plan as of now

1345
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 2: is to open the broadcast on f S one by

1346
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: saying something today we are at dately. You know, we

1347
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: are in the city that God forgot Tonight, man, we'll

1348
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 2: see all right. So May Rocky BJJ probably happy to

1349
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: have one of the head instructors back after the Palm

1350
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: Springs vacation. Jason Hunt not invited to Palm Springs. What's

1351
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: going on at May Rocky BJJ.

1352
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 3: He was on another trip. He was on another trip.

1353
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 3: I am both leaving. Yeah, oh yeah, a good week

1354
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: to rob the place. I know. I'm telling you, I

1355
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 3: don't rob a jiu jitsu place. You're in trouble. Yeah,

1356
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 3: there's no money there anyway. There's no money there anyway,

1357
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 3: and you might get your arm broke. But uh no, no,

1358
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 3: I I am going there right now after this. Uh

1359
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 3: it's we got the World Championships for the IBJJF so

1360
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 3: a very important week. We'll have a lot of visitors

1361
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: in there. I got the no gee class that I'm

1362
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Speaker 3: teaching at about forty five minutes and I'll let you go. Yeah, man,

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01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, dude. Good to be big stuff

1364
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: this week, Janko. Great yet with Michael bisbeing today.

1365
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: Thank you to our other guests as well, Dominic Rays,

1366
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: Ray Longo, Friday Night FS one, UFC Fight Night, Rivera

1367
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 2: versus Made, and then we'll be back with a fresh

1368
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: episode for you with the Anak and Flooring Podcast about

1369
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: five five days later, and we will look ahead to

1370
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: the monster that is UFC two twenty five Whitaker versus

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01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: Romero two, Shakago, Illinois, twelve days from right now. With

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Speaker 2: that for that handsome man with the beard, Kenny Floyd,

1373
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm John Anick. Until next week, enjoy the fight you'll.

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01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,480
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