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Trump has said that he's inclined 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: to pardon many of them, calling them patriots. 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: Now many are requesting delays for their cases, waiting to 30 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: see what Trump will do after he has inaugurated. Joining 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: us now to discuss is January sixth. Defendit, Tim Hale, Tim, 32 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: thanks for speaking with us today. 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 5: Well, thank you very much for having me on. I'm 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 5: happy to be here. Thank you so much. 35 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Tim, you were released from jail earlier this 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: year after spending three years incarcerated for non violent offenses 37 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: on January sixth, though, tell us a little bit about 38 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: your time locked up. 39 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 6: Oh, it was very interesting for those that don't know. 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty one, I know it was a long 41 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 5: time ago, but that was at the height of COVID. 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 6: So they denied a lot of US bonds. 43 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 5: They had basically smeared us as domestic so they could 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 5: deny us bail, our constitutional right. 45 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 6: So they actually sent us to this jail in Washington, 46 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 6: d C. 47 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 5: They called it the DC Goulag because it was an 48 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 5: absolute dump, and they kept us some pre trialed attention 49 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 5: and they had us in solitary confinement. 50 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 6: For twenty three hours a day. So they were able 51 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 6: to do this because of COVID. 52 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 5: So those who were on the you know in blue 53 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 5: states like California, New York, New Jersey, you probably remember 54 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 5: those days, DC was worse than any of those deep 55 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: blue states. And so that's what it was like for 56 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 5: about a year in there. And then of course we 57 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 5: were denied our right to us a fair and speedy trial. 58 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 5: So I spent sixteen months, a year and a half 59 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 5: waiting to go to trial while I was locked in 60 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 5: solitary that, I mean, they were horrendous conditions. Now it's 61 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 5: sort of a I'm not going to say it's a 62 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 5: micro it's a small, you know selection. I mean, not 63 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 5: everybody who was charged for January sixth ended up going 64 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 5: to that specific jail. There were people housed in other jails, 65 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 5: people were housed in prisons, and you know, not everybody 66 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 5: has the same story. But the long and short of 67 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 5: it is that people's constitutional rights were deprived. I wasn't 68 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: allowed to receive communion, you weren't allowed to see your family, 69 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 5: you weren't allowed to see your lawyer. At the time, 70 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 5: Marjorie Taylor Green in the summer of twenty twenty one, 71 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 5: she tried to come into the jail to inspect the conditions, 72 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 5: and they turned her away. The same day, they also 73 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 5: turned my lawyer away. So basically, every civil liberty you 74 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 5: hold sacred in the Constitution, whether it's the Bill of 75 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 5: Rights or it's the fourteenth Amendment, was pretty much denied 76 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: to us. 77 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 6: And it was denied. 78 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 5: Because of COVID or just simply because the wardens didn't 79 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 5: like us. The wardens there. Actually it's funny enough their 80 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 5: social media show that they hated Trump and they hated 81 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 5: Trump supporters. It was we were treated completely we were 82 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 5: completed wrong or we were treated wrongly, and it was 83 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 5: completely vindictive. They deprived us, they deprived us of our 84 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 5: rights as Americans, and they've been doing that to everyone, 85 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 5: even if they weren't in jail. So I want people 86 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 5: to understand that this was a horrible precedent. They said, 87 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 5: we have a common law system, and it's a great system. 88 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 5: But you know, if you look at Roe v. Wade, 89 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: or you know, or if you look at Ples cv. Ferguson, 90 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: bad precedents can take decades or generations to reverse. 91 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 6: So we can't let this ever happen again. 92 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: Well that's a good point. 93 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: So speaking of precedent, you know, hundreds of more defendants 94 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: are awaiting sentencing. So what do you hope to see 95 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: President Trump do once he takes office. 96 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: Is there any precedent can be changed? 97 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 5: You know, this is an important topic that I think 98 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 5: people don't even think about as in depth as they should. 99 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 5: A lot of people just want to jump to pardons, 100 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: and I look forward to pardons. But the first thing 101 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 5: that I hope that the new administration does is end 102 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,559 Speaker 5: the prosecutions, because they're still charging people, They're still hunting 103 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 5: people down, they're still kicking indoors, and I think they 104 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 5: need to stop doing that. They also need to I 105 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 5: think they need to give clemency to the people who 106 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 5: are currently incarcerated. You know, I have friends who are 107 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 5: doing I got lucky, I got a four year sentence 108 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 5: for walking through the building, But I have friends of 109 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 5: mine who are doing fourteen years or twelve years. So 110 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: I mean, these people are rotting in prison, and I 111 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 5: think the person that they should do is commute their sentences, 112 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 5: release them, and then work on the pardons. And then 113 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: you know, there are other ways that they can make 114 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 5: us whole. But you know, initial, my initial hope is 115 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: that they will stop the weaponization of law enforcement and 116 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 5: they'll stop hunting people down because, like I said, and 117 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 5: as you acknowledge, it's a precedent, you. 118 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 6: Know, the pendulum, the pendulum can always swing back in 119 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 6: the other direction. 120 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 5: And I don't want this to happen to the left either, 121 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 5: you know, I don't want the weaponization of law or 122 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: against political opponents. So hopefully this stops on day one, 123 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 5: and then you know, the pardons, you know, they can 124 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 5: look at that after. But the main thing to me 125 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 5: is that they let these people out to you know, 126 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 5: give these people their freedom. 127 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 6: The liberation comes before the vindication. As far as I'm concerned. 128 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 7: Tim, I just want to clarify your friends that are 129 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 7: serving twelve fourteen years. 130 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: What are they being accused of here? 131 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: Some of it it varies, it varies. So again they're 132 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: all about narratives. In one instance, you know, I have 133 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 5: a you know, one of the oath keepers. I was 134 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 5: with Kelly Meggs. Just because he was one of the 135 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 5: oath keepers, they gave him an egregious sentence. He had 136 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 5: a judge named Ahmed Metta and he was one of 137 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 5: the most partisan Obama loyalists involved in all the January 138 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 5: six cases. For those of that don't know, January six 139 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 5: cases have basically all been dealt with by like twenty 140 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 5: judges and they're all extremely biased and extremely cruel, and 141 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 5: Metta was one of the cruelest. So the oath keepers 142 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: got extremely high sentences. Some are probably more aware of 143 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 5: the Proud Boys how some of them got like twenty years, 144 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 5: But the same was done to the oathkeepers, and they 145 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: were actually there to protect cops. They actually protected officer 146 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: Harry Dunn, who then lied under oath to get them 147 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 5: convicted a trial and he ran for office in Maryland 148 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: or something like that. 149 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 6: I mean, it's egregious. 150 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 5: You have another You have a man, Tom Webster, he 151 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: got sentenced to ten years for assaulting a cop, but 152 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 5: then they withheld the video that showed that the cop 153 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 5: hit him first and he was defending himself. And there 154 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: are a lot of due process violations, Brady violations the 155 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: American public just doesn't know about. But I'm glad that 156 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 5: they know about ray Epps. I'm glad that they know 157 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 5: that there was infult try in the crowd. There were Feds, 158 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 5: there were provocateurs, but there's so much that's been withheld 159 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 5: from the public, and the fact that this is still 160 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 5: going on three years, four years later, you know, I 161 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 5: hope that when President Trump gets back in I hope 162 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 5: they finally release all the video that's been withheld from 163 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 5: the public. And I hope that people are made whole, 164 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: because when you deprive people rights and you for here's 165 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: another example, Julian Cater was accused of murdering officer Brian Sicknick. 166 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 5: That was absolutely not true, and then he was forced 167 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 5: into a plea deal and he's serving over seven years 168 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 5: in prison. That man's going to I mean, I was 169 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 5: smeared as a neo Nazi and I was actually a comedian. 170 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 5: But that man was smeared as a cop killer. He's 171 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 5: never He's going to be called a cop murderer for 172 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: the rest of his life. He deserves restitution for that, 173 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 5: and he shouldn't be in prison. And so you have 174 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 5: a lot of good men who are locked up because 175 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 5: the circumstances that were out of their control. 176 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 6: Either they offended themselves and they. 177 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: Were accused of being violent, or you have people who 178 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: were accused of being part of far right. In the 179 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: case of the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers, they 180 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 5: were accused of seditious conspiracy. I mean, these are these 181 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 5: are made up. These are made up charges that rely 182 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 5: on innuendo more than anything else. And so we just 183 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 5: have to stop the prosecutions and you know, let these 184 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: people out because they were completely smeared, they were railroaded, 185 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 5: and they never had a chance. That's why they did. 186 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 5: The President Trump what they did. What they did to 187 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 5: him too. They charged them in DC because they knew 188 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 5: he couldn't get a fair trial with a fair jury. 189 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: It's extremely biased. They deny change of venue, and it's 190 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: it's completely rigged. And that was true for us, it 191 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: was true for Trump, and it's going to be true 192 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: for anybody else in the future who's who's railroaded like this. 193 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 5: So it's a lot I'm I'm sorry to say, but 194 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 5: it's it's way more convoluted than the public realizes, and 195 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 5: it's a tragedy. 196 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: Well. 197 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: Well, on the subject of being convoluted too, do you 198 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: get this sense at all that when Nancy Pelosi denied 199 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: those National Guard troops, do you feel that that was intentional? 200 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: Number one and two, how much of these of this 201 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: agitation by some of our agencies or outside actors desired 202 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: this to happens so that someone like yourself would wind 203 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: up in prison in many hundreds of others. 204 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 6: So two things on the issue of Pelosi. 205 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 5: We have video now where she's confessed openly that it 206 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 5: was her fault for not having the National Guard there. 207 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 5: We also have body cameras from Metro PD where they're 208 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: yelling to each other. 209 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 6: They set us up, they set us up. 210 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 5: And so I always point out this, this is sali an 211 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: observation whose they Because the Metro PD answered to Meyer 212 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 5: Bowser and the Capital PD answered to Nancy Pelosi. If 213 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 5: Trump offered National Guard support, clearly it was an inside job. 214 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 5: They wanted this to escalate the level of intentionality. 215 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 6: I mean, that's up for debate. 216 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: That's why I hope that we get control of the 217 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 5: DOJ and we get all the documents. But we know 218 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 5: that there were CIA elements that were deployed there that 219 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 5: day the DOJ bop. We know that there were DHS 220 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 5: assets there, there were Department of Defense assets there, you 221 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 5: had every three letter agency that was there that day. 222 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 5: It's obviously an inside job. You know, myself and other 223 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: defendants have actually indeed FBI agents who were in playing 224 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 5: closed there that day. This is in court filings, and 225 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 5: even the government has admitted that groups like the Proud 226 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 5: Boys and Oathkeepers had dozens of federal informants planted within them. 227 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 5: So nothing to happen at the Capitol in January sixth 228 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: was a surprise. They were following these groups the entire time. 229 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 5: We've monitored the CCTV and you can see that the 230 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: cameras at the Capitol are moving around watching and following 231 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 5: groups of protesters throughout the day. There was no surprise 232 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: at the Capitol. They wanted it to happen. But again, 233 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 5: the level of infiltration, I would say it's very massive. 234 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 5: I myself when I was incarcerated at the worst point, 235 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 5: not the whole time, but at the worst point, about 236 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 5: a third of the inmates I was locked up with 237 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 5: turned out to be federal. 238 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 6: Informants or Antifa agitators. I was locked up with Zachlam. 239 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 5: He was the Antifa member who broke the window where 240 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 5: Ashley Babbitt got shot through the neck. There were communists 241 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: at the Lower West Terrorist Tunnel, like Josiah Kenyon. He 242 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 5: said he told the Feds he wanted to get Trump 243 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 5: supporters murdered. There was infiltration, question is to what degree, 244 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 5: But I would suggest it's massive. The video evidence and 245 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 5: everything else suggests that this was a massive, massive infiltration job. 246 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 5: And we're not even talking about Antifa cells like John 247 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 5: Sullivan and the cell that he had on his discord server. 248 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 5: We know that there were federal informants. There's a man 249 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 5: named Christopher Cuney. He was being followed by an FBI 250 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 5: informant named James Knowles. He infiltrated the Kansas City Proud Boys. 251 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 5: This is all on record. 252 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So there there's certainly a lot of information that 253 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: needs to be brought to light and needs to be 254 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: uncovered in regards to January sixth. So thank you for 255 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: joining our program to tell us more about this today. 256 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 6: Thanks Tim, thank you so much. 257 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: All Right, now, coming up on tomorrow's special report, we 258 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: will talk with our own Brian Glenn about the latest 259 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC. 260 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 3: And then our very own Tara Dahl talks with Jali 261 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: Fairs about Ukraine, Israel and Lebanon. 262 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 7: And our own Ben Burkwam joins us to talk about 263 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 7: the latest at the border. All of this and more 264 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 7: on tomorrow's Special Report. 265 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: We'll see you there. 266 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 7: Special Report shocking new footage from Texas DPS as sixty 267 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 7: unaccompanied children show up at the border. Just wait until 268 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 7: you hear what they had to say. 269 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: And former CIA counter terrorism expert Mike Baker joins us 270 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: to discuss our current foreign conflicts and the policies that 271 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: may affect them. 272 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: And hundreds of January sixth defendants are awaiting sentencing and 273 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: they're eager to see what President Trump will do once 274 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: he gets to the White House. We'll discuss with Tim Hale, 275 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: who is charged with nonviolent crimes at the Capitol that day. 276 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 4: All of that and more right now on Special Report. 277 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: Welcome into Special Report, and we hope you had a 278 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 3: great weekend. I'm Bo Davidson alongside Michelle Bachus and Emily Finn. 279 00:12:59,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 280 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 7: Ranking just today, Jack Smith has dropped the twenty twenty 281 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 7: election interference case against President Trump. Prosecutor said, the Justice 282 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 7: Department's position, quote is that the constitution requires that this 283 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 7: case he dismissed before the defendant is inaugurated. Now, the 284 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 7: Justice Department follows a long standing policy that says sitting 285 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 7: presidents cannot be prosecuted. 286 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And It was also a busy yet efficient weekend 287 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: for President Trump as he rounded out his picks for 288 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: the top fifteen cabinet positions. Recent announcements include Treasury Secretary 289 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Scott Bessant, HUD Secretary Scott Turner, CDC director Dave Weldon, 290 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: FDA Commissioner Marty mckarey, Deputy Assistant and Senior Director for 291 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: Counter Terrorism Sebastian Gorka, and Labor's Secretary Lori Chavez Derimer. 292 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's some good picks there, What do you guys think? 293 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 7: I think what's really interesting is Scott Bessant, that's been 294 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 7: receiving a lot of I would say blowback from the 295 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 7: right right now, But you have to consider, even when 296 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 7: he was tied to Soros, which is one of the 297 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 7: biggest complaints right now, he was actually fi a lot 298 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 7: of those policy initiatives. He has a very impressive resume, 299 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 7: and it just so happens he is a gay man, 300 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 7: So the whole rhetoric against Trump and being against gays 301 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 7: is completely blown out of the water here. But of 302 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 7: course I think he was picked based on his merit. Nonetheless, though, Emily, 303 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 7: I mean, he has fired out these appointees at a 304 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 7: very very fast rate. 305 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he certainly has, Michelle. 306 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just thinking about the holidays, but this seems 307 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: like he's put in the final bow on the president 308 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: of this administration right here. It'll be exciting to see 309 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: everything that they're able to accomplish once they hit the 310 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: ground running on day one in DC. 311 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm still hoping out holding out for Ben Carson. 312 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: I really liked him the last administration. Maybe surgeon General 313 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: would be great for him. I just really really enjoyed 314 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: his presence and his acumen and his medical knowledge. 315 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there. 316 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 6: Well. 317 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: Some shocking new footage coming out of Texas over the weekend. 318 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: Michelle, Yeah. 319 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 7: New this weekend, the Texas Department of Safety encountered a 320 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 7: group of two hundred and eleven illegal immigrants in Maverick County. 321 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: Now. 322 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 7: Among the group, we're sixty unaccompanied children ages two to seventeen, 323 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 7: one of which a two year old girl who showed 324 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 7: up alone at the border with nothing but a piece 325 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 7: of paper in her hand. Take a look at the 326 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 7: shocking video. 327 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: Venezula, Mama, Venezuela. 328 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 8: See those those signeos, No man's go to mama. 329 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 9: And to Papa no minezuela. 330 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: Und this time. 331 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: Okay, my gosh. 332 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: Well this comes as the Texas Department of Safety is 333 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: sounding the alarm over child trafficking happening as a direct 334 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: result from our open borders. For more on all of this, 335 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: let's bring an immigration attorney Esther Valdels Clayton. Esther, how 336 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: are these children used as part of the dangerous criminal 337 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: trafficking networks. 338 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,479 Speaker 10: Well, they're money bakers and they're seeing like little trafficking 339 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 10: of being able to be traffic into the United States. 340 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 10: The children are separated from their parents at their country 341 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 10: of origin. Again, a lot of people are concerned about 342 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 10: the separation of families. The parents are willfully separating themselves 343 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 10: from their boys and girls and leaving them to fend 344 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 10: themselves to enter the United States unlawfully. Through this process, 345 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 10: they are often sexually assaulted, they are forced to lie, 346 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 10: they're man handled by adults who fake and tell them 347 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 10: that they are the parents of the child. So we 348 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 10: see a lot of this, and all of this hopefully 349 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 10: will come to an end once the Trump administration starts 350 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 10: DNA testing. That's what ends all of this, as well 351 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 10: as these children being unaccompanied entering into the United States. 352 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 10: Just last week in San Diego, we had seventy such 353 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 10: children enter unlawfully without a guardian here to watch over them. 354 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 7: So that little girl had a name and a phone number, 355 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 7: that was it on this piece of paper. Do you 356 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 7: think that was actually a relative or do you think 357 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 7: that was part of something more cynical. 358 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 10: We have no way to verify that unless it's biologically 359 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 10: tested through DNA testing. That's what's so important. The Biden 360 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 10: administration famously rescinded that requirement. So most often it's probably 361 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 10: an aunt or an uncle. But this little girl, she 362 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 10: was obviously coached to be able to say that she 363 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 10: had the little piece of paper. She and there's images 364 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 10: of children crying. Those are the children that I represent, 365 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 10: some of whom get lost in the system. We don't 366 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 10: know where. Approximately three hundred thousand unaccompanied children are currently 367 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 10: in the United States, and that's where the Office of 368 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 10: Refugee Resettlement of Unaccompanied Children comes into play. Why are 369 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 10: these children lost? How are they being processed? And they 370 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 10: should never have been separated from their parents, But a 371 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 10: lot of the parents made that decision to have that 372 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 10: dangerous journey done by that child by herselfs I. 373 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: Got asked, then, you know, as a parent, I have 374 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: a young son, why would you send your child without 375 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: yourself or a guardian to the border. I mean, that's 376 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: an obvious question here, because you're putting their lives in danger. 377 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: What would be the reason because you can't get through 378 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: with them and you think the child has a better chance. 379 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to put myself in the mind of 380 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: the parent too. Is it their fault for doing this? 381 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 10: Definitely, the children are not at fault. In fact, there's 382 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 10: systems for them to be able to legalize their stay 383 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 10: here in the United States because they've been trafficked or 384 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 10: they're being used for an entryway into the United States. 385 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 10: But most of all, it's the poverty that's a driver. 386 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 10: Most of these parents, they believe that they are going 387 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 10: to experience a better life. But as a daughter of 388 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 10: Mexican immigrants, and they represent children of these backgrounds all 389 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 10: day long, they do not have a better life. In fact, 390 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 10: The New York Times published an article earlier this year 391 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 10: saying that a lot of these children end up in 392 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 10: poultry plants, agricultural and construction industries performing unlawful labor. And 393 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 10: that's why we have men like Tom Homan, who's now 394 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 10: the borders are saying that we're going to perform workplace 395 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 10: raids to be able to find these unaccompanied children exactly 396 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 10: in the places we know where they are. They're either 397 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 10: going to be traffic to abuse, explore it streamed for pornography, 398 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 10: because it's more lucrative for cartels to be able to 399 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 10: exploit a child and strain that pornography than to for fentanyl, 400 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 10: which is becoming harder and harder to be able to 401 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 10: transport into the United States. 402 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: And just one quick follow up est why did the 403 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: Bide administration rescind the DNA testing. 404 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 10: They stated that it was causing a lot of delay 405 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 10: for the Office of Refugee Resettlement. They said it was 406 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 10: more important and more expeditious for these children to be 407 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 10: in the hands of the presumed adults and parents, so 408 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 10: they took away that requirement in order to facilitate more 409 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 10: bedroom space, less detention space, and not to have those 410 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 10: optics of children separated and crying from their parents. So 411 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 10: now with the Trump administration, we do know that it's 412 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 10: necessary because oftentimes these children end up in the hands 413 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 10: of predators, just like we saw in Florida last week. 414 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 10: One child was given the address of a strip club, 415 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 10: and they found children at a Florida's strip club and 416 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 10: that had the address had been used as the address 417 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 10: of a sponsor. That needs to stop, and hopefully it 418 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 10: will stop. As of January twentieth. 419 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, that makes me sick to think about, 420 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 7: you know, and ask this is happening. DHS had publicly 421 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 7: acknowledged they can't account for roughly three hundred thousand kids 422 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 7: that were lost under the Biden Harris administration. That according 423 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 7: to a report that happened earlier this year. I mean, 424 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 7: where are they. 425 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 10: Well, we know oftentimes they're not in school, and that 426 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 10: there is no paper trail for these children. They end 427 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 10: up in gangs, they end up exploited. But the New 428 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 10: York Times, again going back to that article, they found 429 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 10: them working. A lot of these children, not the two 430 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 10: year old, but as soon as that they're eleven or twelve. 431 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 10: They come from countries where it's lawful, it's legal, it's practiced, 432 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 10: to be able to work and send remittances home. A 433 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 10: lot of times these children are indebted to traffickers. They're 434 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 10: indebted to their own relatives who exploit them for work. 435 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 10: They charge them for rent, for sleeping on the sofa, 436 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 10: They charge them for food and clothing. This is not 437 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 10: the better life that their parents envisioned. And a lot 438 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 10: of times they're lied to. They're people who were lied 439 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 10: to from the traffickers and saying we'll bring your child over, 440 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 10: she'll or in English and later on she can petition 441 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 10: for you. But sadly that's not the case. They're exploited 442 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 10: for their labor and also sexually as well. 443 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of Sound of Freedom right now, and I'm 444 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: just this is like it's a movie, but it's actually true, 445 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, This is what's actually happening. 446 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 3: It shouldn't be a political issue esther, but it seems 447 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: to be when Biden and Harris have done this for 448 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: so long. What do you expect you mentioned Tom Holman. 449 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: What do you expect that Tom Holman and Donald Trump 450 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: will do to fix this situation and create a more 451 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 3: humane process where children are not going to be separated, 452 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: number one, but where they don't wind up in the 453 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: United States unaccounted for and winding up in strip clubs. 454 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, well they're going to end up first of all, 455 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 10: verifying It's very simple to verify if the child belongs 456 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 10: to the adults through DNA testing. Next, they're going to 457 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 10: have new family detention spaces available, which the Biden administration 458 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 10: also rescented, allowing the child to not be separated with 459 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 10: their mom and dad and avoid those terrible optics that 460 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 10: we had under Trump one point zero. The next thing 461 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 10: we need to do is clamp down on border. At 462 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 10: the border which is just open right now and you're 463 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 10: seeing images of children crossing rivers as well. There's over 464 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 10: nine hundred migrant deaths that have caused because of these 465 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 10: dangerous kind of crossings through the Rio Grande and even 466 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 10: here in San Diego through the desert. We need to 467 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 10: clamp that down. And next we need to find those 468 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 10: children and they are most likely at workplace enforcement. That's 469 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 10: going to be done through workplace raids as well to 470 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 10: be able to find the whereabouts of these children addresses 471 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 10: were given, where are the sponsors, and also verifying the 472 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 10: whereabouts of these children. Are they in school, are they 473 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 10: at work? And it's going to take a long time, 474 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 10: but hopefully with Tom Homan as well as the other 475 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 10: gentlemen that are also going to be leading these border 476 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 10: enforcement and removal operations, we'll be able to apprehend the 477 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 10: people responsible for trafficking children and exploiting them for money. 478 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 4: About thirty seconds left here. 479 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 7: Do you think that the mainstream media is going to 480 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 7: follow the same narrative that they did the first time 481 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 7: around when Trump talked about deportations. 482 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 10: I think what they want is a gotcha mo. They 483 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 10: want to see family separations. They want to film somebody 484 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 10: being torn apart from their family at their house, and 485 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 10: I think the Trump administration is very savvy to that. 486 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 10: That's why they're going to avoid residences and apprehending people 487 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 10: that are not criminals or people without deportation orders. They 488 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 10: don't want to grab Avola. They're going to go after 489 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 10: hardened criminals. And that's the message that needs to be 490 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 10: resounded through the Latino community and saying we're not after 491 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 10: the taxpayers. We're here to apprehend the trend. Araguaile. We're 492 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 10: here for MS thirteen, We're not here for Grandma. 493 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 11: Amen. 494 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: Thank you, Astir, appreciate you for your acumen today. 495 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 496 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 12: Thank you. 497 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: Coming up, could there be a ceasefire agreement coming into 498 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: play between Israel and Lebanon. We'll have all the details 499 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: coming up next. 500 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Special report. 501 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 11: As tensions in the Middle East and Ukraine continue to escalate, 502 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 11: there are now reports from both Israel and the US 503 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 11: and a potential ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon's HESBLA that 504 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 11: they could see come maybe to a vote tomorrow. Israel's 505 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 11: cabinet will vote on that. Ya who has agreed to 506 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 11: that ceasefire? Well for discussion, let's bring in former Special 507 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 11: Assistant to President Trump and retired Colonel Derek Harvey. Colonel, 508 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 11: thank you so much for joining us. 509 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 6: Great to be here. 510 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 11: So what do you think of this potential ceasefire? It 511 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 11: looks like it's going to happen. Do you think that 512 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 11: it will be solidified? 513 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 13: Well, it looks like that's going to happen, and it's 514 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 13: mainly because the Biden administration has been putting a lot 515 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 13: of pressure on the Israeli government. They've already stopped a 516 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 13: lot of the critical munitions flow there, and they are 517 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 13: threatening to to use a UN Security Console resolution that 518 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 13: would be very damaging to the future of Israel and 519 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 13: their security requirements. So they pressured Israel into acquiescing. And 520 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 13: what this means is that the collapse of Hesbelah and 521 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 13: the weakening of Hezbolah and the opportunity to change some 522 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 13: of the political dynamics within Lebanon are going to be lost. Courrel. 523 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 11: I mean, when they're talking about ceasefire, you're looking at 524 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 11: over the weekend they just had Hesbla launched two hundred 525 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 11: and fifty rockets into Israel. 526 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 4: Hit Tel Aviv. 527 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 11: Seven Israelis were wounded, So it doesn't look like there's 528 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 11: any kind of peace going on right now. How would 529 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 11: they do this ceasefire? Would it just automatically stop the conflict? 530 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 11: And how could those seventy thousand Israelis that live up 531 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 11: in the northern part of Israel be able to go 532 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 11: back home? 533 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 13: Well, the reported parameters of the agreement are that there 534 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 13: will be an immediate cease fire for sixty days, and 535 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 13: that the Hezbolah forces are supposed to return to north 536 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 13: of the Latani River per the United Nations Resolution seventeen 537 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 13: oh one, and that the Lebanese Armed Forces and UNIFIL 538 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 13: the United Nations Forces will police the area between the 539 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 13: Lattani River to the Israeli border. Both of those organizations 540 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 13: have been corrupted and are significantly penetrated with Hezbealah influence 541 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 13: or Hesbellah operatives, and so neither one can effectively police 542 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 13: the area. To get Israel to agree to the deal, 543 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 13: the United States as signed a separate memorandum with Israel 544 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 13: allowing Israel to continue specific operations if Hezbelah violates and 545 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 13: penetrates down into this area that's supposed to be cleared 546 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 13: by them, or attempts to resupply rockets and munitions and 547 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 13: things in violation of the agreement. So they're giving Israel 548 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 13: at least an out to allow them to continue select 549 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 13: unilateral operations. 550 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 11: So then you look at the Lebanese security forces, their military, 551 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 11: which there is in a very it's not strong at 552 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 11: all as we know, but well Hesbola just join in 553 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 11: now with the Lebanese military and then Hesbola just become 554 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 11: part of it, or what role will the Lebanese military play. 555 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 13: Well that's going to have to be looked at very closely. 556 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 13: And they're supposed to be a five country leadership team 557 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 13: monitoring and having oversight led by the United States. But 558 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 13: it also has France involved, which France has been very 559 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 13: negative about not in Yahoo and very supportive of the 560 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 13: Lebanese Hezbelah. So that's problematic. You're right, you know, Tara, 561 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 13: the Lebanese armed forces have been a significant problem for 562 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 13: a long time. Although the United States has been training 563 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 13: and arming them to some degree, they are penetrated by Hesbelah, 564 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 13: co opted, and they are corrupted, so therefore you can't 565 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 13: rely on them at all. 566 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 11: Well, I want to switch now, Colonel, before we leave 567 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 11: here for to Ukraine. President electronp you met with the 568 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 11: NATO Secretary General in flo or Go after the Secretary 569 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 11: General is shaking things up at NATO with his newly appointment. 570 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 11: Just October first, so not too long ago. He just 571 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 11: became the Secretary General. I want to play this clip 572 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 11: from an interview of him he did almost a year 573 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 11: ago when he was the Prime Minister of the Netherlands, 574 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 11: and then get your reaction. 575 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: Take a listen to this. 576 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 6: Let's get to NATO. 577 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 12: He's me President odd character in her position to be 578 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 12: commenting on the former president, but has commented on the 579 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 12: former president Donald Trump said that Donald Trump was a 580 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 12: threat to some European interests, including NATO. I'd like to 581 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 12: talk about NATO with you, we all would. It's interesting 582 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 12: to me how the Europeans constantly framed this as America 583 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 12: not helping us, the former president not helping us. Can 584 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 12: you help us all understand how European countries and governments 585 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 12: have been helping themselves. What's happened with defense spending in 586 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 12: the last four years? Have they put NATO in a 587 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 12: better place? 588 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 14: And this was exactly Trump's main issue that we were 589 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 14: not spending enough, and he was right. He was right 590 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 14: because America is about fifty percent of NATO economy. They 591 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 14: were a death moment when he was president. Spent about 592 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 14: seventy seventy five percent of the NATAL budget and the 593 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 14: rest of NATAL was only doing twenty five percent, so 594 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 14: we had He was completely right in forcing us to 595 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 14: live up to the two percent commitment. So we invested 596 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 14: another five billion, which brought us to the twenty billion. 597 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 14: It's just almost two percent. We are still not exactly there, 598 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 14: but almost, and many other countries have done the same. 599 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 11: So Colonel I mean, this is now the NATO Secretary General, Margruda, 600 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 11: so it's going to be a good relationship. It looks 601 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 11: like that way he understands the importance of having the 602 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 11: NATO nations pay their two percent share. 603 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 13: Well, that's that's a good sign. But the problem is 604 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 13: what are they spending the money on and what are 605 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 13: they actually doing. You know, it's ridiculous that the United Kingdom, 606 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 13: Great Britain has only one deployable brigade, that Germany has 607 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 13: only two tank brigades. That you know, they spend a 608 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 13: lot of their money on what I would call fluff 609 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 13: and not real military power, and that's going to be 610 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 13: the challenge. Remember, NATO is a population of almost eight 611 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 13: hundred and fifty million people, and their wealth fire exceeds 612 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 13: what Russia has, which is the major threat. Russia's you know, 613 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 13: economic strength is about equal to Italy, Italy, Okay, and 614 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 13: their populations one hundred and forty three million compared to 615 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 13: you know, NATO countries almost nine hundred million people. They're 616 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 13: not doing what is needed to defend Europe. And you know, 617 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 13: President Trump is going to need to continue to press 618 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 13: them to do real things, not you know, create a 619 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 13: facade military that's what I would call it. 620 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 11: We only have about a minute left, colonel, but I 621 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 11: want to get your reaction to you know, we know 622 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 11: that there is North Koreans fighting right now in Russia 623 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 11: against the Ukrainians, but they're also now Russia's also recruiting 624 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 11: Iranian back to Houthi rebels to go and fight in Russia. 625 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 11: So what does that say about the significance of the 626 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 11: Houthi rebels. I mean, we know that they're not long 627 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 11: when they get to the battlefield, and there's a couple 628 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 11: hundred of them, But is that making any kind of 629 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 11: a difference, And what is the alliance with Russia in 630 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 11: the Houthies? It just we only have about forty seconds left. 631 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 13: Well, it just shows the desperation of you know, Russia 632 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 13: to have manpower of any type. You know, the Hoosies 633 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 13: are reportedly doing manual tasks, it doesn't take real training, 634 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 13: and they're actually cannon fodder when you look at this 635 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 13: modern battlefield. But there have also been reports and some 636 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 13: confirmed of you know, Russia seeking you know, human capital 637 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 13: if you will, from places like Nepal, from India and 638 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 13: other places besides North Korea. North Korea is the one 639 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 13: that's created, you know, sent the most beneficial element today. 640 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 11: Thank you, colonel, have a great thanksgiving. 641 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 13: You too, take care terror Thanks well. 642 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 11: Coming up on special report, are we on the brink 643 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 11: of World War three? 644 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: And can Trump do anything to stop it? We will discuss. 645 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 11: But ex CIA agent Mike Baker back in a moment. 646 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Special Report. 647 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: You know, many are wondering whether the Bide administration's foreign 648 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: policy failures have led us to the brink of World 649 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: War three, especially where our adversaries look at the United 650 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 3: States as being weak, especially before Trump takes office on 651 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: January twentieth. 652 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Bo. 653 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: With an embarrassing Afghanistan withdrawal, the Taliban retaking control, and 654 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: endless war in Ukraine that we have spent billions on, 655 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: and the continued conflict in Gaza, foreign policy is an 656 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: area that Trump is going to have to handle very quickly. 657 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: For answers, we turned to Mike Baker, a former CIA 658 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: officer for fifteen years who specialized in counter terrorism. 659 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 4: Mike, thank you so much for joining us today. 660 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 6: Thank you so, Mike. 661 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: Let's examine Ukraine first. 662 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: We have spent billions and billions, as Emily said, on 663 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: this conflict, and I can't see it getting any better. 664 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: And I also can't see how the United States benefits 665 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: from such involved Well, it's certainly sad to see this 666 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: go on and on. Did we make a huge mistake 667 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 3: by getting involved? And why are we always the nation 668 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: that shoulders most of the financial burden. 669 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 15: Well, yeah, it's unsatisfactory to a lot of people, I know, 670 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 15: particularly the issue of why why should we be sort 671 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 15: of the sheriff of the world. The answer to that 672 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 15: is that I don't think we want the other option, 673 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 15: which is the Chinese regime, to be the sheriff of 674 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 15: the world. Their interests are not aligned with ours. Occasionally 675 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 15: they may intersect, but not very often. Likewise, I don't 676 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 15: think we really want Vladimir Putin and his minions to 677 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 15: be the sheriff of Europe and the continent. 678 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 6: So yes, while you know, the. 679 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 15: Idea of kind of drawing the curtains and just focusing 680 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 15: on ourselves might be satisfying at times because the world 681 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 15: seems like it's in such conflict, the reality is is 682 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 15: that the world is incredibly interconnected, and it's shrinking every day. 683 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 15: Technology does that. We're all so interconnected that we do 684 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 15: at times have to step in and try to create 685 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 15: some level of stability and order because the other options, 686 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 15: those that might want to be at the top of 687 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 15: the food chain. I don't think the folks in the 688 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 15: US would be all that happy with those results. 689 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, everything certainly really is connected, sir, Now, I do 690 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: want to turn attention to a different theater of war 691 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nett and Yah who has agreed 692 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: in principle to a ceasefire with Hesbela. 693 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: Is this a good sign? 694 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: And what will Trump be walking into when it comes 695 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: to this conflict come January? 696 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 10: Right? 697 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 15: Well, you and Ba are both identified a real problem, 698 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 15: right the incoming administration, President Elect Trump and his team 699 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 15: are faced with all these various conflicts. Right, It's not 700 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 15: just Ukraine in Russia. It's not, as you pointed out 701 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 15: just now, the Middle East and the conflict there between 702 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 15: the Israelis ed Hesbela and Kamas and the Houtis in 703 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 15: Islamic Shihad. You've also got increasing Chinese aggression from the 704 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 15: Chinese regime and Chiching Ping. But with the Middle East, look, 705 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 15: the White House since seven October has been consistently optimistic 706 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 15: anytime we're talking about a ceasefire or potential ceasefire in Gaza, 707 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 15: potential ceasefire Lebanon, in part for political reasons leading up 708 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 15: to the election. I think that Biden Harris administration they 709 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 15: were desperate to get some ceasefire in place for domestic 710 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,720 Speaker 15: political reasons, right, And also obviously because hey, it stops 711 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 15: the violence and stops the killing. But their optimism hasn't 712 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 15: really played. 713 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 6: Out in reality. 714 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 15: And so this time around, while Prime Minister net Yahoo 715 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 15: in Israel has made some promising sounds about the latest 716 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 15: effort for a ceasefire with Lebanon, there are still some 717 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 15: fairly important points that need to be sorted through before 718 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 15: you can get that temporary ceasefire and then whether that 719 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 15: leads to any sort of long lasting piece the region. 720 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 15: You know, modern history tells us that we're won't have 721 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 15: mid to long term stability as long as the Iranian 722 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 15: regime and its proxies that they have built have the 723 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 15: same objective that they've stated many many times, which is 724 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 15: the destruction of Israel. So until you actually figure out 725 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 15: some way to change that belief system for the Iranian 726 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 15: regime and their revolutionary god core, you're not getting anything 727 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 15: resembling long term peace in that region. 728 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 3: Well, and you know, we know that Trump has made 729 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: so many promises about negotiating peace in both Ukraine and Israel, 730 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: and it's true that he broke her the Abraham Accords 731 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: when he was president before. That was a big success 732 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: for him, But when it comes to Israel and Hamas, 733 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: What do you think the likelihood is that he can 734 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 3: broker a deal that returns the Israeli hostages back home 735 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: and that the two sides have any meaningful negotiation. 736 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm really glad you mentioned the hostages because they 737 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 15: keep getting lost in the mix here, and you know, 738 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 15: some obviously are not still living, some suspect are. They 739 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 15: don't really have a full count because Hamas has been 740 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 15: unwilling to provide any transparency in that regard. They've been 741 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 15: unwilling to actually have legitimate ceasefire discussions. So your question 742 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 15: is is perplexing everyone. What's the chances for a ceasefire 743 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 15: will Camas? You know, look, if you can't figure out 744 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 15: what the governing authority will be after that cease fire 745 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 15: as a result of that cease fire, then there won't 746 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 15: be any reason for completing the negotiations from the Israeli 747 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 15: point of view, right they the idea that you would 748 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 15: have a ceasefire that would leave Hamas in a position 749 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 15: of authority is unacceptable. But look, and part of this 750 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 15: again is also driven by the Iranian regime. They're kind 751 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 15: of the puppet master for both Kamas and has Blah. 752 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 15: So we keep forgetting that they are a key component 753 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 15: in this discussion. If they turn around and say Hamas 754 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 15: there will not be a ceasefire, there won't be one, 755 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 15: And so they have to be dealt with in some 756 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 15: fashion in terms of the negotiations. 757 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 758 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 4: No, I want to switch gears here a bit. 759 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: I know you've been bringing up China throughout our conversation, 760 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: and I think they are one of our biggest threats 761 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: right now. China clearly keeps threatening Taiwan and Trump has 762 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: signaled that such action would step over a line. Will 763 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: tariffs on China be a tactic that he's likely to 764 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: revisit and how effective could that be? 765 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 14: Yeah? 766 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 15: I think tariffs are a very good negotiating tool. And 767 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 15: you know, again, I think people make the mistake oftentimes 768 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 15: of taking you know, Trump literally when he says something. 769 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 15: They say, well, that's just you know, exactly what he means. 770 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 15: Oftentimes he throws things out there just to test the waters, right, 771 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 15: take the temperature of a potential negotiation, and tariffs are 772 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 15: that as well. Do I think he's going to have 773 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 15: his team impose additional tariffs on China? 774 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: Well? 775 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 15: Yes, probably, but you know, will it cause a sea 776 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 15: change in how the Chinese regime Undershishin Thing deals with 777 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 15: the rest of the world. No, but look, the Chinese 778 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 15: regime undersishing Thing has been increasingly aggressive, particularly in the 779 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 15: South China Sea. They actually act as if they're already 780 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 15: not in a kinetic war, but in a war with 781 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 15: the West, right and the US and our allies. We 782 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 15: don't seem to understand that, right. We seem to keep 783 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 15: thinking of them as nothing more than just economic competitors 784 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 15: who we can all get on board with. I don't 785 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 15: think that's where a Shiji Thing's mind is at. 786 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're a hundred percent right, and I 787 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 3: think he'll use the power of the purse. But also, 788 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 3: like you said, they admit they're already in a war. 789 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 3: They're in a physical war right now, And you're right, 790 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 3: I think that we in America don't actually see that. 791 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: Well. 792 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 3: You mentioned Iran earlier, and I want to touch on 793 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: this because this is a big one. We know that 794 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 3: Iran had been plotting to kill Donald Trump, and I 795 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 3: imagine that that type of notion is not going to stop. 796 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 3: Do you expect that Donald Trump will take a more 797 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 3: forceful posture towards Iran when he comes to office, especially 798 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 3: since the nation is so close to a democracy without 799 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 3: the Ayatola and control. 800 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 15: Yes, look, if the Mullas weren't there, if the rg's 801 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 15: he didn't have its fingers in every aspect of life 802 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 15: in Iran, you could actually end up with long term 803 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 15: piece and stability in the region, which all the actors want, 804 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 15: right the Saudis, the Jordanians, would any of them, the Kataris, 805 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 15: the Egyptian would any of them be upset to see 806 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 15: the Iranian regime go and have a chance for long 807 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 15: term stability and prosperity. Course, I think that's exactly what 808 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 15: they would love to see. But do I think that 809 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 15: the president like Trump will take a harder line. I 810 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 15: hope he will. The idea that the Biden Harris administration 811 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 15: knew that they had put essentially a hit out on 812 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 15: President Trump and didn't go to maximum pressure on the 813 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 15: Iranian regime as a result is astounding. So yes, I 814 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 15: think we have to understand that nothing changes for. 815 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 6: The good for the long term. 816 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 15: You know, getting a temporary ceasefire with Hesbo Lajamas it 817 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 15: stops the rockets in the short term, but you're just 818 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 15: putting lipstick on a pig right and you're not solving 819 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 15: the problem, and. 820 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: Like forget about thirty seconds left. 821 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 3: But I know this is a big speculative question, but 822 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 3: what's the chance in our lifetime that we see a free, 823 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 3: democratic Iran? 824 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 11: Well? 825 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 15: How many the current Supreme leader is uh is in 826 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 15: failing health. There's been talk about who is replacement would 827 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 15: be the IRGC would I believe would like to take 828 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 15: a stronger role in in future governance. 829 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 6: That's not a good thing. 830 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 15: Uh So will we see a change only if the 831 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 15: Iranian people rise up and want it and and and 832 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 15: insist and demand on it. They've been under the thumb 833 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 15: of that regime way too long. The people of Iran, 834 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 15: you know, deserve better. 835 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 2: Thank you. 836 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 15: I would like to be hopeful, but you know, short 837 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 15: term history doesn't make me. 838 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 6: That out here. 839 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, that totally makes sense. Well, we truly appreciate your 840 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: insight today, Mike. Thank you so much for joining our show. 841 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 15: Thank you very much. 842 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: Now coming up, big pharma and big food lobbyists are 843 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 1: against RFK Junior. 844 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 8: Coming up, President elect Trump has nominated Robert F. 845 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 7: Kem new Junior as the US Secretary of Health and 846 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 7: Human Services. But there are some big farmer companies who 847 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 7: are against this nomination. Doctor Drew Pinski, chief patient officer 848 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 7: of the Wellness Company, joins us right now to discuss this. 849 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 7: Doctor Drew, Welcome to special report. 850 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 9: Pleasure to be here, guys. 851 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: So to start out here, Big Pharma and the medical 852 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: establishment are working overtime to stop RFK Junior's nomination. In particular, 853 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: they're calling RFK Junior a vaccine denier. 854 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 4: Do you think that this is a fair assessment of him. 855 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 9: No, of course not. I've spoken to him many times, 856 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 9: and he's asking merely that we should be able to 857 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 9: ask questions and that vaccine should be subjected to the 858 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 9: same standard of any evaluation of any pharmaceutical agent that 859 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 9: I then can use as a physician such that I'm 860 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 9: able to actually provide a risk reward analysis to my patients, 861 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 9: for instance, with the COVID vaccine. And doctor Burkes admitted 862 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 9: this about a week ago on some of the national 863 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 9: news podcasts to Face the Nation that she admitted that 864 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 9: they didn't do a good job with talking about with 865 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 9: telling people what co vaccine did and did not do, 866 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 9: which is an admission that they did not provide the 867 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 9: necessary information for a risk reward analysis such that a 868 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 9: patient could be properly informed to make a decision. That 869 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 9: is a major problem. And just think about this before 870 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 9: the elections. Frankly, if I asked the question why is 871 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 9: there so much autism, why is there so much obesity? 872 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 9: Why is there so much chronic illness? I would be 873 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 9: marginalized as non neuonormative or somehow judging people who are overweight. 874 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 9: This is an insanity. Science needs to be able to 875 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 9: ask questions. And that's all Bobby Kennedy has ever been 876 00:43:59,560 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 9: in fave? 877 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 4: Yeah you meant to that. 878 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 7: Well, big food lobbyists have also begun to push opposition 879 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 7: to RFK junior. So why would big food be so 880 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 7: opposed to RFK junior as well? It seems like all 881 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 7: of these big companies are just bullying him, ganging up 882 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 7: on him. 883 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 9: Right it is it is the business as usual gang 884 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 9: that no longer. The American people have spoken they don't 885 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 9: want business as usual, and so the cozy relationship between 886 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 9: the FDA and the pharmaceutical agents and pharmaceutical companies and 887 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 9: the various agricultural companies, it's too cozy. It needs to 888 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,839 Speaker 9: be disentangled in some way. And we now know it's 889 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 9: been made clear to us that the tobacco companies have 890 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,240 Speaker 9: shifted the same individuals and the same strategies over to food. 891 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 9: So the very famous scientists, the very same marketers, the 892 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 9: very same lobbyists that were used to give us addictive 893 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 9: tobacco are now providing a with addictive food sources that 894 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 9: are not healthy for us. Again, we're just asking for 895 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 9: transparency and a means to make America more healthy, to 896 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 9: do good. God forbid, we all want to do good 897 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 9: for the American people. 898 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 899 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: It certainly makes you think, you know, what is so 900 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: bad about our medicine and our food that they want 901 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: to hide this so bad that they don't want any transparency. 902 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard time and time again that senators 903 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: would have preferred a more conventional. 904 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 4: Pick to head the HHS. So why does the outside. 905 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: The box pick, if RFK Junior, make more sense than 906 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: a conventional pick. 907 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 4: Is it time to shake things up? 908 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 9: It exactly is that the status quo. Look, the status 909 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 9: quo just is not working. COVID laid that bear for us. 910 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 9: The shortcomings were overwhelmingly obvious to any of us paying 911 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 9: attention who work in clinical medicine. It was disturbing, and 912 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 9: RFK Junior has been able to put his finger on 913 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 9: some of the reasons that's happening. And he spent his 914 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 9: whole career again disentangling big organization with corrupt influence. That's 915 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 9: what he does. I don't know how to do that. 916 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 9: He knows how to do that, and he's bringing in 917 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 9: good people, good scientists, good clinicians to make good decisions. 918 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 9: So we're not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. 919 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 9: He is fully vaxed. I'm fully vaxed. My family's fully vaxed. 920 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 9: His family's fully vaxed. Absolutely, we're not vac No one 921 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 9: in this organism, in these organizations are supporting URK Junior 922 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 9: is the least bit in vaccine denying mode. But everybody 923 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 9: wants to have the proper science in place so we 924 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 9: can make good decisions on behalf of our patients and 925 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 9: give them what they need to an order for them 926 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 9: to make an informed consent. The fact that informed you 927 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 9: remember that we've we've taken action on physicians who did 928 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 9: not provide informed consent to patients, and the action has 929 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 9: been quite aggressive, And all of a sudden, we're dismissing 930 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 9: that is no big deal and by the way, I 931 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 9: see the Well and Company stuff alongside you there. That 932 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,439 Speaker 9: has been an effort to try to bring things into 933 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 9: the hands of patients directly. I've spent most of my 934 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 9: career trying to defend the physician patient relationship, and that, 935 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 9: unfortunately has been. 936 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 6: So severely adulterated. 937 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 9: By the insurance companies, by the money to influence of 938 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 9: some of what we're talking about here, and the fact 939 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 9: that most physicians are now employed their employees rather than 940 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 9: independent practitioners. And it's time for patients to have access 941 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 9: to simple treatments with telehealth backup and informed, informed manuals 942 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 9: to help them use these things. It's time to be ready. 943 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 9: It's time to have access to these things the patients needed, 944 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 9: and let's provide it. 945 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 7: Doctor Dry, I want to ask real quickly, do you 946 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 7: think that Faucho will ever be held accountable for everything 947 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,399 Speaker 7: that he did? 948 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 14: Yeah? 949 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 9: I think there will be a reckoning of some type. 950 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 9: I think ram Paul is on the loose and intends 951 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 9: to do so, whether or not there is accountability, which 952 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 9: is an interesting word. I don't think so. But to 953 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,720 Speaker 9: be fair, what I've been asking for from the beginning, 954 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 9: I worry when you start talking about accountability, we're talking 955 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 9: about taking some legal actions against people, and when that 956 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 9: becomes threatened, people immediately pull back into their camps and 957 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 9: they can become defensive, and you never get to the truth. 958 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,240 Speaker 9: I would like to get to the truth. I would 959 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 9: like people to explain where they lied and distorted so 960 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 9: the rest of us can understand what happened and do 961 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 9: what we need to do to make sure it never 962 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 9: happens again. 963 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 964 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly hard to trust people when there's so 965 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 1: many questions that we can't get answered and there's no truth. 966 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 4: But we've got a minute left here. 967 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: I definitely want to give you a chance to tell 968 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: us about the different kits that the wellness company provides 969 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: and why it's important for families to have them on hand. 970 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 9: Well, listen, they have a new kit now that is 971 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 9: just sensational. 972 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 6: It's just really This one is really. 973 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 14: Yeah. 974 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 9: This is ready to prepare you for just about anything. 975 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 9: We just opened it up and used it to today ourselves. 976 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 9: My wife needed some antibiotic. We had it in there, 977 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 9: and this is antibiotic, it's anti nauseals, it's EpiPens, it's 978 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 9: ready for emergency. We have emergency kits. We have infectious 979 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 9: disease kits. We have the complete you know, sort of 980 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 9: prepare for disaster kit, which is the new one. And 981 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 9: the idea is to have on hand what you need. 982 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 9: They can be refilled if they run out or if 983 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 9: you use them, and it is really just time and 984 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 9: people know how to use these things. These are not 985 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 9: complicated therapeutics. These are simple things. Antibiotics, steroid creams and 986 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 9: Hailer's EpiPens, things that you already get from your doctor 987 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 9: you can get from us with telehealth support it. And 988 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 9: that's you know, Covid did us a few favors. And 989 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 9: one other thing they did was what Kelvid did that 990 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 9: was on the positive side of the ledger was getting 991 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 9: us to understand that telehealth should be widespread, used to 992 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 9: deployed more often. 993 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 1: Well, that's why we need the Wellness company. 994 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 4: Doctor Drew, I hate to cut you off, but thank 995 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 4: you so much. We'll be right back out of the break.