1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: This is the Route Tree, broadcasting live on Dallascowboys dot 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys app. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 3: Now your host, Drew Pearson. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 4: All right, all right, welcome to another edition or another 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 4: episode of the Route Tree. I'm your host, the original 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 4: number eighty eight, Drew Pearson, and I'm bringing you another 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: legendary episode. Today We've got a very special guest, a 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 4: man who defined toughness, leadership, and excellence for the Dallas Cowboys. 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: A three time Super Bowl champ. You got them rings 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 4: on home? No, no, come on, man, good ring? I 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 4: got one. I wear it all the time. A three 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 4: time Super Bowl champ, a five time Pro Bowler and 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 4: one of the most respected voices in the game. And 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 4: uh what three time All Pro? Yeah yeah, all Pro. 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: That's the big one. That's the big one, three four 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: times all yeah. So I got I got a little 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 4: bit of all that. 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Amen. Amen, And you hear him. 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 4: That's none other than the great Darren Woodson with the 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 4: number twenty eight. Don't you hit me, man, don't you 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 4: hurt me man? I know you a little punchy right now. 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 4: The Super Bowl just and all that. 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 5: You know, it was fun though, man, I mean, I'm 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 5: you know, Drew, I'm I'm a defensive guy with a 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 5: defensive mindset. And to watch it, first of all, to 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 5: watch d law. 30 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Get his his ring, how cool was that? 31 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 5: It was? 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 6: Man? 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 5: It was special. It was special in the sense that, 34 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 5: you know, he spent time here in Dallas, and you know, 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 5: the focus has never really been on the defensive side 36 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 5: of the ball. It's always been on the office side 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 5: of the ball. And he knew that. Oh look at that, 38 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 5: that's in the Dallas paper. 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: Looking shark. 40 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. Man, But you know he's always kind of had 41 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 5: that you know, ship his shoulder, and you know, he's 42 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 5: always wanted to win from on the defense side of 43 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: the ball. So it was good. It was It was 44 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 5: good to see him land in the position of place 45 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 5: that he was comfortable in, that accepted him for who 46 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: he was. And now he has a super Bowl range. 47 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: And took advantage of his skills and that he brought 48 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 4: and that was that piece they needed. But you know, 49 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: we can talk about that Super Bowl because you know, 50 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 4: I played eleven years in the NFL. You played eleven twelve, 51 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: you know, and three Super Bowls, And I'm thinking. 52 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 5: About what really got us to the Super Bowl. 53 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: And we had good offense twenty eight twenty nine to 54 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 4: thirty points a game, but the D was giving us 55 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: that ball in good field position and everything. And I've 56 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: come to the conclusion, if you want to win in 57 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 4: this league, you can be all that with the offense. 58 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 4: And I'm an offensive guy, but if you don't have 59 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: that D that can get that ball back for you, exactly, 60 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: keep people out the end zone, make them kick field 61 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: goals instead of tds, right. 62 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 5: And it's not always just takeaways. Sometimes it's just winning 63 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 5: on third down. And it becomes a middle position game. 64 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 5: And when you look at the personnel of any team, 65 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 5: most of those same defensive players are playing on the 66 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: specialty teams as well, so they're they're playing on two 67 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 5: phases a game. We always talk about you got to 68 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: at least win two phases, two of the three phases, right, 69 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 5: And when you have a gritty defense and guys who 70 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 5: want to play the alpha mentality and they want to 71 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: get stops, and there's a pride, a little pride in them, 72 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 5: the fact that they don't want to give up anything 73 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 5: and in any situation, especially in the playoffs, you always 74 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 5: see even the great offenses sometimes they may have some 75 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 5: glitches sometimes that they know the timing is not right, 76 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 5: they get out on third down, and then they got 77 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 5: to reset because other things based on timing, timing, timing 78 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: with offense, and they got to get comfortable with themselves. 79 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 5: And then you'll see a really great offense. They may 80 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 5: have sputter, sputter, sputter, and then they take off at 81 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 5: some point. Well, the great defense is you know, the 82 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: one thing about having a really good defense is that 83 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 5: they are going to win on third down and they're 84 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 5: gonna give your offense more opportunities to get started, get 85 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 5: comfortable with itself, and then you get going on offense 86 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: side of all. But you know, similar to what we 87 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 5: did in the early nineties is we ran the ball consistently, consistently, consistently, 88 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 5: and we played good defense, and we control the line 89 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: of scrimmage and that allowed us to be in the 90 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: fourth quarter and win these tight, close games. 91 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: And running the ball, you're eating up that clock, yes, 92 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: and you know, keeping them off the field and that 93 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: type of thing. 94 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 2: So you know, that's what it's all about. 95 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 4: Anyway, we we had that doomsday defense. Yeah, and they 96 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 4: were giving that ball, you know, on the forty five 97 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 4: and inn and fifty and then you know, I'm like, okay, 98 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: that's at least three, but we're gonna get six out 99 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 4: of that. 100 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: But what he Let's talk from the beginning. 101 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: Man, you come from Arizona, Maryville, that. 102 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 5: Came in Maryville, the Marybelle area on the west side 103 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 5: of Phoenix, and grew up with a single mom, no 104 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 5: father figure. My father did come back. It was in 105 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 5: our lives. It wasn't in our lives. And we have 106 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 5: a strong relationship today. But back then with your dad 107 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: with my father, yes, but then who was a Pierce? 108 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: Who was and Drew Pearson fan back? Yes, he hands down, 109 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 5: but he, you know, wasn't in our life. My mom 110 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 5: raised four kids by herself. And I watched my mother 111 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 5: for so many years wake up at early in the morning, 112 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 5: go to her first job, get done with that about 113 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 5: four thirty five o'clock. She worked at Superior Court americupa 114 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 5: county superior court for thirty eight yeow, and then worked 115 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 5: her second job for twenty six years. 116 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: Wow. 117 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 5: And she continued she did that forever. Again, she just 118 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 5: did it for and I saw her do it every 119 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: single day. And I had an older sister who was 120 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 5: seven years older than me, and two older brothers, and man, 121 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 5: I just you know, you talk about a sacrifice, she 122 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 5: just she did all of that. And she was my hero. 123 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 5: She was, you know, everything to all of us and 124 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 5: still is to this day. But that was my background. Man, 125 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: that's where I come from. I come from a you know, 126 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 5: a church. I come from the church. Do We stayed 127 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 5: in the church every day, like every said, we were 128 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 5: the church. Like you know in Phoenix, you never you 129 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 5: don't have yards, you don't have like grass out rocks. 130 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 5: I'm straightening out rocks in the front of the church 131 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 5: and doing all those things. 132 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: So she was she was special, right on, right on. 133 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: Well that made you special as well coming through. But 134 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: you know, you were a pretty good offensive player coming 135 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: through high school. 136 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 5: I know, yeah, running back. What happened? 137 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: Man, that damn good one game scored six touchdown Drew. 138 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 5: We were all, yeah, we wouldn't playing, were playing a 139 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 5: little little sisters of the poor, that gay, But look 140 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: I figured, look I was. I was a decent running back. 141 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 5: I played running back my entire life. But I was 142 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 5: always on the defensive side of the ball too, And 143 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 5: I always loved playing defense. I like tackling, like, you know, 144 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 5: pursuing and chasing, and like to be the hit her, 145 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 5: not the hit tee. So, uh, playing running back was 146 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 5: you know, it was fun for a long time. I 147 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: got into high school and had really, you know, two 148 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 5: really good running back partners with me and Felipe Sparks 149 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: another guy named Kevin Goalbroth, and they all went we 150 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 5: all went to college, and Fleepe ended up playing with 151 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 5: the New York Giants for a long time. But we uh, 152 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 5: you know, we had a really good offense in high school. 153 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 5: And you know, I loved the running back position, man, 154 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 5: but my heart was not there. It just wasn't. I 155 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 5: just wanted to. 156 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: So you're going both ways. 157 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 5: I played both ways. I played a linebacker safety in 158 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 5: high school and then went to college and I got 159 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 5: recruited across the country to by major colleges to play 160 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 5: running back, some running back, some defense. And then I 161 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 5: went to Arizona State and Lovey Smith put me on the. 162 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: Defense coaching you for a while over there, right, that's 163 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 4: pretty cool, But you being from Arizona, was it a 164 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: natural to go there or a NOSU. 165 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 5: No, it wasn't, and it wasn't like my first choice. 166 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 5: USC was my first choice, you know, and that's where 167 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 5: I wanted to go, and that's where I was going 168 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 5: to go. And I ended up being what they call 169 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 5: a prop forty eight and my grades weren't good enough 170 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: to give me. So I was the same thing, same thing. Yeah, yeah, 171 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 5: I was a prop forty eight man. Didn't like it. 172 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 5: And I learned a lot though, drew a lot from 173 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 5: that process. And I'll get into it here. But I 174 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 5: went to college my first year and I had to 175 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 5: sit out. I couldn't be around the football program. I 176 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: had to just go to school. 177 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: And this is not a rich shirt. 178 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 5: No, it's not a red shot man. It's worse than that, especially, 179 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 5: you know, playing since I've been playing tackle football since 180 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 5: I was in second grade. It was seven years old 181 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 5: playing tackle football. And now I'm missing the season because 182 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 5: I had a lackluster, lackluster performance in high school and 183 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: I just didn't try and I didn't think it would 184 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 5: ever catch up to me, and it finally did. And 185 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 5: then I got into college and I had to sit 186 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 5: out that first year. The embarrassment of that was just 187 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 5: tremendous man. But it shaped me like it shaped me 188 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 5: into the person that I am today, because it was 189 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 5: the first time I ran into any type of hurdles, 190 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 5: any type of obstacles, and that obstacle was I couldn't play. 191 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 5: People looked down on me as far as a man, 192 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 5: he's too stupid, he just a football player, bah blah. 193 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 5: And I had this perception and I knew, I knew 194 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 5: I was way smarter than that. Man. I knew that 195 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 5: academically I could get through it. But it was that 196 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: first year sitting out, man, it really formed me into thinking, Okay, 197 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 5: all right, I'm not I'm sitting out, but I'm going 198 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 5: to I'm gonna show everybody one that I can get 199 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 5: through with this. And then secondly, I found other avenues 200 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 5: of life. It wasn't football was like, my whole focus 201 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: in life was football, football, football, And sitting out that 202 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 5: first year, I met so many people that had nothing 203 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 5: to do with football, and I'd find out what their 204 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 5: parents did for a living. And there are people that 205 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 5: did real estate. There are people that owned orchard orchards, 206 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 5: and they had all kinds I mean, and I was like, man, 207 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 5: this is different. I grew up in this little bubble 208 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: in Maryvale. I didn't know what this though was going on. 209 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 5: Now there's all these professionals, professions that I could get 210 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: my you know, getting involved with, and that really opened 211 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 5: my eyes till today to where I am today as 212 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: a businessman. It's like I learned a little bit of 213 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 5: what's out there my freshman year in college. 214 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it must have learned something because you were 215 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: a criminal justice Yeah where did you learn to get 216 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: into that field? 217 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 5: But you know, I learned to get into that field 218 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: because my mom worked for Americapa County Superior Court. I 219 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 5: used to watch her go to work, and a lot 220 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 5: of her friends and her bosses were judges and and 221 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 5: you know, we're with the court system, and I kind 222 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 5: of was very familiar with that. But I had a 223 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 5: business miner as well, and I was going through the 224 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 5: criminal justice and once I committed to doing that my 225 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 5: freshman my freshman year, by my junior year and I 226 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 5: graduated in three and a half years. By my junior year, 227 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 5: I was like, I need to do I want to 228 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 5: learn business as well. So I kept a business miner 229 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 5: as well. 230 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: Right on, Well, we want to get into a little 231 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: bit more about your college career, your coaches that you 232 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: had coming through. But we're going to do that when 233 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: we get back, Before we get back with the legendary 234 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 4: Darren Woodson, We'll do that when the route tree continues 235 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: right after this. 236 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 6: Every day begins with a promise, a promise to work 237 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 6: hard and to build the future. 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They have some talent. 259 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 9: You have some great talent, and they got some fight. 260 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 9: This is the year me too. Oh I'm Cody. By 261 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 9: the way, I'm Travis. 262 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 5: Nice to meet you. Travis. 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I'm Drew Pearson, 282 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: the original number eighty eight. And that guy sitting next 283 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 4: to me, you see me moving away because he a 284 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: little punch. 285 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: You want to hit some you know. We had Cliff 286 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: Harrison there. 287 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 4: We had to sit on the other side of the table, 288 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 4: but we got Darren Woods and Darren, thanks for taking 289 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: the time to be with us. 290 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 5: Thank you for having manah. 291 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: So we were talking about your trying to do this 292 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: chronological lifetime span of your career and we got to 293 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: Arizona State. Now you picked that over some major colleges. 294 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: You said you USC was your favorite choice, but Arizona State? 295 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: What lord you there? 296 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: Man by the name of Don Baki. Don Baki was 297 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: the recruiting coordinator for Arizona State. And Baki was the 298 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 5: first one to tell me in my junior year in 299 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 5: high school. He said, hey, man, you're a good athlete 300 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 5: and you test pretty good on your testing, but your 301 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 5: your grades. He told me that like face to fade up. 302 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 5: And he was the first one that was really true 303 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 5: to me. Yeah, and I was you know, look, I 304 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: didn't have a father figure in my life, and Coach 305 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 5: Baki kind of came into that role where he would, 306 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 5: you know, we would have real good conversations, really good conversation. 307 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 5: I was seventeen, sixteen, seventeen years old having these conversations 308 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 5: with him, and he would show up before I'll tell 309 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 5: you what. No, I didn't, man, I'll tell you what. Man, 310 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 5: this is how special and I'm still great. I mean, 311 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 5: he's one of my best best persons that I've ever 312 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: been around my life. But Baki used to show up 313 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: before class. He just my junior year. He'd say, hey, man, 314 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 5: you need to go to class. And he would show 315 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 5: up before my English class and be sitting in the 316 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 5: hall and say, man, you can't be late, and blah blah, 317 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 5: like he just he just made sure that I was 318 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 5: taken care of. And he had a really good relationship 319 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: with my mother at the same time. And he was 320 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 5: the reason. He was absolutely the reason why I went 321 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 5: to Area. You were kind of looking for something like 322 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: that that was I didn't have that. I didn't have 323 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 5: a mentorship and it's the reason why I do see 324 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: five Texas now like it's a mentorship program. But I 325 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 5: didn't have, you know, that father figure that you know 326 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 5: guided me. Look, yeah, my mom did a great job 327 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 5: of raising four kids, but you know, you always need 328 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 5: a father in your life that can so a male 329 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: figure that can pour into you and tell you, hey, man, 330 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 5: you're not doing that right, or yes, you're doing that right, 331 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: or encourage you, or show you some vulnerability and whatnot. 332 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: And I just didn't have that. Man. So I was 333 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: kind of you know, my mom worked two jobs. I 334 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 5: was kind of guiding my own life for the longest time. 335 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 5: And that wasn't as for a sixteen year old kid. 336 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 5: That's not that's just not a good view to just 337 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 5: be guiding your own life. 338 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: And your family with your brothers and sister. Where did 339 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: you fall in? 340 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 5: I was the youngest you, so my brothers had gone 341 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: off to the military, my sister was out of the house, 342 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: and it was just me in high school. 343 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that was it a natural or a given 344 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: that you were going to go to college and play football, 345 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: or or just a given the goat that you're going 346 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: to go to college. Football just happened to be part 347 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: of it. 348 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 5: Well, I knew no football was no it was either 349 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 5: I was going to play play football or I was 350 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 5: going it wasn't I wasn't going to get same. Yeah, 351 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 5: So I just knew that. I always knew I was 352 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 5: a good football player. I just knew that from day one. 353 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 5: I kind of was like seventy eighth grade, you just 354 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 5: you know, you just you just domin. You see the 355 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 5: game differently than than most and the game kind of 356 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 5: came easy to me. And then I started to have 357 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 5: to work hard, you know, to get in shape and 358 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 5: all those things. But I loved it, man, like that 359 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 5: was it. That was my passion, Like I didn't. You 360 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 5: didn't have to encourage me to get up and go 361 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 5: work out like that did was that was just naturally 362 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: building in to me. Now, get me to go to 363 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 5: the geometry class, You're gonna have to entice me to 364 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 5: get there or something, right, But but football just always 365 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 5: was natural for me. I kind of knew that I 366 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 5: was going to go to college to play, and that 367 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 5: was because of all the recruiting and everybody coming to me. 368 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 5: They knew I was going to play at the next 369 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: level and I just I was confident in that. But grades, 370 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 5: like my grades got in the way of playing my 371 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 5: first year in college. 372 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 4: Well, you finally got on the field. Once you got 373 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: on the field, things really started happening. But you came 374 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: on a linebacker. 375 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, they called it. What were your measurements that I 376 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 5: was like one ninety five. Yeah, I'm serious, two o five. 377 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 5: But it wasn't a linebacker as you know it. It's 378 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: like it was a hybrid, like the same thing that 379 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 5: I played with the NFL basically, so I covered the 380 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 5: slot receiver. I did all kinds of other things, but 381 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 5: it was like a we called the devil back position, 382 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 5: and I played closer to the line of scrimmage at time. 383 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 5: Sometimes I play a little you know, further out and 384 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 5: cover guys. But you know, Lovey Smith forced me to 385 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 5: do things and put me in uncomfortable, uncomfortable positions at 386 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 5: all times and practice and and that's where I kind 387 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 5: of you know, cut my teeth. Yeah to your talent. Yeah, 388 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 5: he took advantage of the work putting it put me 389 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 5: in those those awkward positions. And when I got into 390 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 5: the NFL finally got drafted by the Cowboys, it was 391 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 5: kind of natural for me to just cover guys. Yeah, 392 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 5: It's just it didn't bother me. Yeah. 393 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: Well, you know, you were a hard hitter and all 394 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: that fierce and all that, but you could run too. 395 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 5: You ran four to three. I saw, and that's the 396 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 5: reason why I came in. And they were like, yeah, 397 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 5: you're gonna cover your first year. 398 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 4: You're gonna that size running that ye kind of you know, way, 399 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 4: definitely going to have to take advantage of your skills 400 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: as much as we can on the field. 401 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, And you know I came in and and 402 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 5: you know, when I was playing at Arizona State, it 403 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 5: always felt comfortable playing that position. But then when when 404 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 5: I was gonna get drafted into the NFL, they still 405 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 5: called me a hybrid. They still a lot of teams 406 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 5: thought I could only play the linebacker position, and they 407 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 5: just didn't. You know, we didn't. We didn't know what 408 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 5: I was like. We called him a tweener. Back then, 409 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 5: I was a tweener, and I didn't I didn't know 410 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 5: if I wasn't get drafted as a linebacker or as 411 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 5: a safety. So, you know, the Cowboys drafted me, and 412 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 5: then they decided on what they wanted to do. 413 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about that when we get back with 414 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 4: another edition of the Route Tree. Talk about the Cowboy 415 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: experience that day when you drafted. You're looking forward to 416 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: you where you're a cowboy fan growing up and all 417 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. I got surprised for you because 418 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: I'm from New Jersey. 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But I had 475 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 5: like twelve surgeries over my NFL actually an NFL career, 476 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 5: and then twelve, yeah, twelve all together. Like me years 477 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 5: after I still had like I had ten dollars playing 478 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 5: in two more after that. But SI on my back, 479 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 5: back back by my back retired me because I was 480 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: and I had three years on my contract I planned. 481 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 5: I'm playing those three. 482 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: One hundred and seventy some games. 483 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, hitting off and running down on special teams. 484 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, then you break your army. 485 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: I've broken arm Special teams are armed upping somebody in 486 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: the game. 487 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 5: Getting hit by Kenny Gantt breaking my arm the first time. 488 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 5: But I've had I've had multiple multiple surgery. So I 489 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 5: got to get up, man, every day, and I just 490 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 5: have a routine. My routine has not changed from the 491 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: time that I played in the NFL. Get up early 492 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 5: in the morning, even if I'm just walking, but you know, 493 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 5: all doing something, doing something disciplined. It is still there. 494 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: It's still there, man, and it's still and it's carried 495 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 5: over to my business world. Man. I think like man, 496 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 5: I think we're cut to be CEOs and executives in 497 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 5: the business world because of all the things were that 498 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 5: we go through in the sports world. Like you know, 499 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 5: think about just think about this, man. I don't know 500 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 5: we're off track here, but just think about us playing 501 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 5: in the NFL and every day you go and you 502 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 5: do certain things, like it's Sunday game, Monday, you get 503 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 5: wake up, you can barely walk, you have to go 504 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 5: get treatment or sit in the eyes, plunge or whatnot. 505 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 5: And then you know, Monday after the game, you get 506 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 5: all this or Sunday after the game, you're getting all 507 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 5: this criticism from everybody, and everyone including your family is 508 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: criticizing you on something. Monday morning, you wake up, you 509 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 5: gotta go getting a cold plunge, And then you watch 510 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: film and guess who else is criticizing your coach, your 511 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 5: own teammates, and everything is just the film is just 512 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 5: the film, don't lie. It's just telling this story. And 513 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 5: then the next day it's Tuesday and your day off, 514 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 5: and then Wednesday comes and it starts all over again, 515 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 5: and the criticism is there, the work is there and 516 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 5: all that. Like, we are built to be executives. We're 517 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: built for this, We're built for the criticism. 518 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you see getting to the business world, yeah, 519 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: you know, you the executives, you say, they're no different 520 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 4: than that, No different, right, And they haven't even they're 521 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: not even gone through what I've through my. 522 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 5: Own parts and be intimidated by that. No, no, no, 523 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 5: I mean, And that's exactly the same executives They want 524 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 5: to be around athletes because they know the athletes have 525 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 5: gone to a dark place, whether they be athletes, military guys, 526 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 5: they've had to go to a place to get themselves 527 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 5: out of it being mentally, get themselves out of you know, 528 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 5: some some some some bad situations. So I'm kind of 529 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 5: I'm kind of like that man, Like I just my 530 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 5: feeling is like I've gone through things in my life 531 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 5: and the next day is going to come. And if 532 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 5: the next day is gonna come, I'm gonna get my 533 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 5: ass up and I'll be resilient in gonna fight through it. 534 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 5: So we're built this way. 535 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: You're built that way. You're built that way. 536 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: On draft day, cowboys gave you a call where you're 537 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: happy or sad? 538 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 5: No, so a little bit of both. So my buddy 539 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 5: called me my buddy Floyd who got drafted by the 540 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 5: San Diego Charges the year before. He basically he told 541 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 5: me on draft day, on my draft day that he 542 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 5: was just gonna go get me a tea time at 543 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 5: the golf course and just give me his pager. It 544 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 5: was back on the day. I have a cell phone 545 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 5: at a pager, right. He gave me his pager and 546 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 5: he said, just go. I'll watch the draft of my family. 547 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 5: He says, I don't want you worried about this because 548 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 5: I didn't know where I was going to go. I 549 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 5: was predicted to go late first round, on second round, 550 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 5: could have slid the third or fourth round because I 551 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 5: was a tweener. We didn't know. So he gave me 552 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 5: his pager and then I was headed to the golf 553 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 5: course for a couple of friends, and the pager went 554 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 5: off and I got to the golf club and long 555 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 5: story short, but the guy behind the count didn't want 556 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: to give me the phone. 557 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: So on the pager, you don't have a phone number, No, 558 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: he said, his phone. 559 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 5: Number popped up, and I knew that when he said, 560 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 5: once I paid you, that means you got drafted, right. 561 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 5: So I went inside and I grabbed the from the. 562 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: Guy and it was kind of like, I didn't wait 563 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: that long. 564 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 5: No, No, I well, well I did wait long because 565 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 5: I got drafted number thirty seven, seven second round. But 566 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 5: we stopped and got drinks before the tea time. I 567 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 5: was saying, there was on the state. 568 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 4: Man man right, so at the party on. 569 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 5: The state Yeah, So I ended up I ended up 570 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 5: calling him back and he said, man, I got good 571 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 5: news and bad news. I said, what's the good news. 572 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 5: He said, yousually got picked number thirty seven. And I'm like, okay, 573 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 5: I'm doing the math in my hand. Okay, second round 574 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 5: he said, yeah, thirty seven, second round pick early second round. 575 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 5: I can hear my my family in the background. They're 576 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 5: screaming and stuff. And I said, what's the bad news? 577 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 5: And he said them, damn Cowboy drafted, and I was like, god, 578 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 5: I hated the Cowboys. Yeah, like with a passion similar 579 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 5: to you. We grew up in that Jersey area. I 580 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 5: grew up in Phoenix, and everybody was a Cowboy fan, okay, 581 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 5: and I I was a Steelers fan growing up. Man, 582 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: So I was kind of like damn or actually, it 583 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 5: wasn't even so much that I was a Steelers fan. 584 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 5: I was anybody who played the count anybody but the cat, anybody. 585 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 5: And my buddies used to run around with eighty eight. 586 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 5: They were Drew here. Oh yeah, man, I'm telling you 587 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 5: because and that's why I came in the league. Drew 588 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 5: when I came in the league. And I just got 589 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 5: to tell this story. When I came in the league 590 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 5: my first year, I remember someone I didn't even think 591 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 5: about it my first year or two. And then I 592 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 5: think it was like a few years later I found 593 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 5: out that you weren't in the Hall of Fame. And 594 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 5: this was like in ninety three ninety four, and I 595 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 5: was like, how the hell is Group Pearson not in 596 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame? Like I could not believe that 597 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 5: you weren't in. And then I didn't see you up 598 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 5: on the Ring of Honor and I was like, what 599 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 5: in the you know, I ain't gonna get wrecked. But dude, 600 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 5: this was a ninety three ninety four and I said, 601 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 5: we grew up and you couldn't always tell who the 602 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 5: p people are that really changed the game or who 603 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 5: really had an influence on football culture. It's the guys 604 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 5: when you when you're a kid and you're nineteen years 605 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 5: old and you're performing, you're outside and you're like, hey, 606 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 5: I'm Drew Pearson and I'll be I'll be you know, 607 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 5: Roger Staubach or I'll be so and so and blah 608 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 5: blah blah. Like that's when you know, like there's been 609 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 5: an impact, right, So that's what that's all I knew 610 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 5: as a kid, like. 611 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: Because we we did that when we work out Jim 612 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: Brown and all that. 613 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I was like, there's no way that he 614 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: is not. And then I you know, later on, you know, 615 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 5: found out a lot about Yeah, well it's a process 616 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 5: you're finding that doubt, right, Yeah, but we'll get into that. 617 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, so, uh, the Cowboys bring you in and 618 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: it was that Campbell was the one that really went 619 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 4: to bat for you. 620 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 5: Yes, Campbo went to bat he went to Jimmy Johnson 621 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 5: told when we needed to draft the guy, the kid 622 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 5: out of Arizona State. And you know, Campbell has always 623 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 5: been there for me, even today, like camping on our 624 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 5: true true friends. Talked to Dave Campbell every up where. 625 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 5: He's here, he's back in Dallas. Now. You know he. 626 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 4: Coached my brother in college when he was at Bridgeport. 627 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, he's been everywhere, has been everywhere. But he, uh, 628 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 5: he took it. He put his neck on the line 629 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 5: for me to get drafted. And he's like, I came 630 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 5: in my first year. He told me, man, you. 631 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: Better turn out, brother, you better not mess it up. 632 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: Well, that little pressure motivated you. 633 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: I bet every time you took a lap around the 634 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: field to warm up for practice, you thought about Dave 635 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: Campo absolutely coming coming to your u uh back worked out. 636 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's pretty cool. 637 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 4: But anyway, now you're at the Cowboys and how how 638 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: did that go? 639 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 5: Your rookie year? 640 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: You come in and yeah, you know you had to 641 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: learn the ropes. Who was ahead of you? Who are 642 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: some of the people that when Rock Marion. 643 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, well Rock Marion came in later. He came in 644 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 5: there the year after the guys that were in front 645 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: of me were the James Washington's and the Thomas Everetts 646 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 5: and Ray Horton, Robert Williams. There was a number of 647 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 5: guys that that that were in front of me when 648 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 5: I first got here, and you know the draft that 649 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 5: my year. In the draft, Jimmy made a concerted effort 650 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 5: to get better at the position. He wanted to get 651 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 5: more speed in his secondary, so he drafted Kevin Smith 652 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 5: at number seventeen in the first round seventeen. Thick drafted 653 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 5: me in the second round. He ended up drafting a 654 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 5: guy named Clayton Holmes in the third and another guy 655 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 5: named Greg Briggs in the fourth. So he that we 656 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 5: would the organization made a concerted effort to go get 657 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 5: better in their secondary were available. Of course, of the 658 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 5: trade because of the Walkers trail. Yeah, I was one 659 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 5: of those picks in that on that trade. So uh 660 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 5: but he but that's what their their mindset was. So 661 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 5: when I came in, it was the the defensive backs 662 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 5: that were here knew that, you know, the jobs were 663 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 5: on the line, and you know, but I can tell 664 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 5: you this man, I came in and guys like James 665 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 5: Washington Ray Horton and Thomas severtt Man. They just they 666 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: didn't even look at it as you know, he's going 667 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 5: to be a threat and he's going to do this. 668 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 5: They taught me the game. I mean they really did. 669 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 5: They saw your talent would be part of this. They 670 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 5: taught me the game. And my first year, I mentally 671 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 5: I was not ready to start. So they put me, 672 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 5: uh at the at the nickel, and I kind of 673 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 5: knew that I was gonna play. I knew I was 674 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 5: going to play a lot. I knew that I knew 675 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 5: my my talent was going to be able to get 676 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 5: on the field and do some things. And I just 677 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 5: didn't know why. 678 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to start start covering the slot receiver. 679 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, my first year nickel. 680 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 4: Yeah so so you weren't in the nickel playing on 681 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 4: the corner out here. 682 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: Cover up and everything. No, you're right there. 683 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 5: I was in it. So we played a lot of 684 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 5: Amanda Man and Kenny Gant would cover the slot, and 685 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 5: you know, every once in a while I would get 686 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 5: the slot or I covered the tight end, the best 687 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 5: tight end on the field, and uh, we would be interchangeable. 688 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 5: And and Kenny Gant was another one. Maan It was 689 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 5: just incredible. My learning curve like just taught me a 690 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 5: lot about the game. Kevin Smith really was impressive and 691 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 5: teaching me stuff. And Larry Brown, but yeah, this this, 692 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 5: I think that first year really showed me a lot. 693 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: And then my second year was when night kind of 694 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 5: blossomed and I was more in the starting role. 695 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: And who was a coach at that time as Jimmy 696 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 4: Johns Jimmy Johnson. 697 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: Jimmy Johnson brought us in. Yeah. 698 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: So Jimmy Johnson was pretty cool coach. 699 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 5: Huh. 700 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: He seemed to be pretty fire, complete opposite of Tom. 701 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, but we were the same. Yeah, respect fact. 702 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 4: Respect and whatever you had to do to win. They 703 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 4: knew what it took. Yeah, and their approach was might 704 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 4: have been different. 705 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 5: Totally differently, probably a totally different approach. But Jimmy, because 706 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 5: Jimmy just come from college. Yeah, yeah, and he ruled 707 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 5: with fear. He ruled like he had been here. I 708 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 5: think in eighty nine. He came in and took the 709 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 5: took the job, I think it was. And uh, they 710 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 5: had gone one in fifteen. They had gone through a lot, 711 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 5: you know, so Froy and Michael Irvin and partially im 712 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 5: it they'd gone through a lot in those early years. 713 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 5: And when I got here that the year before they 714 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 5: went eleven and five and went into the playoffs and 715 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 5: lost to the Detroit Lions. The year before, I got drafted, 716 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 5: and then I got When I got drafted, they kind 717 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 5: of there was a confidence and a swagger within this 718 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 5: organization that they knew that they were on the verge 719 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 5: of going to the Super Bowl or making a Super 720 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 5: Bowl appearance. And that's when I came in and I 721 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 5: just saw the bravado. I saw the swagger. I saw 722 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 5: the attension of detail that Jimmy had implemented. The accountability. Man, 723 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 5: you were afraid to be man. You couldn't start, oh 724 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 5: man started at eight o'clock. Eating started when Jimmy showed 725 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 5: up at seven fifty, Like you better be in the 726 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 5: building at six point thirty. Little thing. It's the littlest things, man, 727 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 5: And and that's what made us who we were. Like 728 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 5: a lot of talent, but at the same time, it 729 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 5: was we were very, very disciplined in what we did. 730 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 5: And I got to give that to Jimmy and his staff, 731 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 5: and they did a great job of doing that. 732 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, they certainly did three super Bowls, say were doing 733 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 4: something right. 734 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 5: Let's talk about that. 735 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 4: The road to those Super Bowls will do that when 736 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 4: a Route three continues right after this with the Great 737 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 4: Darren Woodson hood. 738 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 6: Every day begins with a promise, a promise to work 739 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 6: hard and to build the future. 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They have some talent. 760 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 9: You have some great talent, and they. 761 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 5: Got some fight. Hoping this is the year me too. 762 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 5: Oh I'm Cody. By the way, I'm Travis. Nice to 763 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 5: meet you. Travis. 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And 785 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 4: you know that what's separating us as this table. I'm 786 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 4: a little punchy. I ain't hit nobody in a long time. 787 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 4: Ain't caught no passes over the middle or nothing. I know, Mare, Yeah, 788 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 4: you know, he's a little pressure coming out of the game. 789 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 4: So I know he's a little punchy. And especially after 790 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 4: watching the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know, I mean, I 791 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: don't know, did you get into that Super Bowl? 792 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 5: This? This? Getting this? I did? 793 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: I would expected something big. 794 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just a better game. Yeah, I look, 795 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 5: I like I like. I'm a defensive guy. 796 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: I like it. 797 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 5: I like a good defensive game. And you kind of 798 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 5: saw the teams and what they were wanting to do 799 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 5: or get accomplished, you know, early in early in the game, 800 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 5: and both defenses outplayed both offenses. I didn't think Seattle's 801 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 5: offense or Sam Donald played that well against uh the 802 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 5: New England Patriots, but I did see a team in 803 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 5: Seattle that just carried its identity across the board, like 804 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 5: that's who they've been all season long, and that didn't change. Uh. 805 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 5: In this game. They brought a lot of different pressures. 806 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 5: They confused Drake may uh and and in the in 807 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 5: the end, they got enough stops to get the ball 808 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,439 Speaker 5: back to their offense, and their offensive basically was kicking 809 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 5: field goals or most of. 810 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 4: The Yeah, yeah, well you know I was looking for 811 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 4: a little more offense. Yeah, because of course, of course, 812 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: of course. Yeah, you have two weeks to prepare for 813 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 4: this game, all right. I know with coach Landry two 814 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: weeks we were putting stuff in that game plan. Y'all 815 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 4: I ain't seen right, all right, movement motion, every thing, 816 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 4: y'all ain't seen yet, and just trying to deceive the 817 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 4: defense a little bit and try to move the football. 818 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: You talk about you a Steeler fan. I was going. 819 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 4: Against the steel defenses, you know, the best defense I 820 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 4: ever know. 821 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 5: I got a question, how were those defense? Oh man tough? Yeah. 822 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 2: You had to button that chinch strap twice. 823 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 4: You had to make sure it was Buck the best 824 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 4: defensive back I had played against, by far, the great. 825 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 5: Mail Blunt, was it? Yeah? 826 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 4: Oh wow, he's six' four he ran he was two oh, 827 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 4: five ran a four to, five and he's in a 828 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 4: steel curtain. Defense and then he's playing at what we 829 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 4: call the forty one forty six defense where the cornerback 830 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 4: is going to come up and either bump you and 831 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: play zone or bump you and run with. You But 832 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 4: mail will not be five yards. Off all, Right he's 833 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 4: right on you and that, presence you know out here 834 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy hundred and. 835 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 2: Eighty five pounds try to get off the line on. 836 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 4: Him but, yeah the steel curtain was the best defense 837 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 4: if you. Play and you know you'll see this when 838 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: you when your time comes for the, hall when you're 839 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 4: getting That hall Of fame luncheon and it's Just hall 840 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 4: of famers. There the first TIME i went in there 841 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 4: and they started introducing the teams and who's AND i, said, 842 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 4: man they're still introducing The steelers And, TONY i, Said 843 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 4: TONY d no. 844 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 5: Wonder we couldn't beat those. 845 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: Guys look The hall of famers they. 846 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 4: Got but you know that that were the team of 847 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 4: the seventies and if they didn't do what they, did 848 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: we would have been that. 849 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 2: Team BUT i don't know why you're A steeler. 850 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 4: Fan but, Anyway Donny shell And George, ATKINSON i mean, 851 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 4: no he was with Their, Raiders Donny shell and uh 852 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 4: the other Cornerback. BROWN i used to Send Tony hill 853 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 4: over The mel brunt blunt. 854 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 5: Work the other. 855 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 4: SIDE i, said you go Pick mel. Out but, anyway 856 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 4: You're Super. Bowls you know what the journey to, those, 857 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 4: man it's pretty. COOL i, mean you think about when 858 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 4: you get, there you, know you think about all the 859 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 4: things you have to overcome to get. 860 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 2: There you want to take advantage of that and make it. 861 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 5: Work, yeah you. Do, Man it's just you, know it's 862 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 5: once in a lifetime. Opportunity AND i can remember being 863 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 5: a seven to eight year old kid just wanting to. 864 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 5: Play didn't matter WHO i played. FOR i just wanted to, 865 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 5: play AND i wanted to get the experience because it 866 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 5: was you, know nationally and domestically here it's the greatest 867 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 5: game out. There it's, just you, know having The Super bowl, 868 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 5: appearance of just having the experience of getting there would 869 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 5: have been was. Awesome and you, KNOW i was just 870 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 5: on the right, time right team at the right, time, 871 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 5: man And god blessed me with. That but you, know 872 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 5: it's you win that game and you think about that 873 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 5: experience of Winning Super. Bowl but it's the, guys, man 874 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 5: it's the guys that you played. With it's like it's 875 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 5: a it's the lead up to being in that locker 876 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 5: room and like you, said the camaraderie and you, know 877 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 5: the wins and the. Losses and people don't realize how 878 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 5: long a season it, is, man it's you, know it's 879 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 5: not the season doesn't start when during the. Preseason the 880 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 5: season starts in an offseason program like In, march and you, 881 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 5: know you're working out. Together you spend more time, with you, 882 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 5: know your teammates than you do your own. Family and 883 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 5: when you go through an entire season back then with 884 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 5: sixteen games and you play the playoffs and you win 885 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 5: those games and go to The Super, bowl win The Super, bowl, 886 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 5: man those memories are never. Lost they're never lost that 887 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 5: you carry that for the rest of your. Life and 888 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 5: it's it's a it's a you, know it's a fraternity 889 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 5: of guys that that got that goal accomplished and that's 890 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 5: that's what's so fun of. 891 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: Me and that's the same kind of feeling that carried 892 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: through Three Super bowl. 893 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 5: All three, yeah, yeah and you're pissed off about it 894 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 5: because we won two back to back and then lost 895 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 5: the lost AN nfc championship, game which that one burns 896 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 5: probably more than. ANYTHING i, mean we lost To san 897 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 5: fran and all this championship, game, man and it was 898 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 5: like heartbreaking in the fact that you, know there was 899 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 5: a lot of changes that were taking, Place jimmy was 900 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 5: no longer, there and we just you, know we couldn't 901 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 5: get the job. Done and it was just a surprise 902 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 5: that we didn't go up there because we Owned San 903 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 5: france at that, time like we used to beat him 904 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 5: all the, time and we. Didn't we didn't get the 905 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 5: job done on that, one and that set us back 906 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 5: and up we're going back the next. Year but you, 907 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 5: KNOW i think this team With Jimmy johnson could at 908 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 5: least run four or five Straight Super. Bowls. 909 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah were you disappointing with that transit night and with 910 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 4: the coaching. 911 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 5: Styles, Absolutely but, again like you, KNOW i tell you, 912 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 5: that you, know there was a goal that was set early, 913 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 5: on And jimmy set that. Goal and the, attention LIKE i, 914 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 5: said the attention to. Detail there was no you missing missing, 915 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 5: meetings there were no you, know times where you just 916 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 5: made mental. Mistakes you, Know jimmy used to have this saying, 917 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 5: like look give, sometimes you, know the guy crossed from 918 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 5: you was gonna kick your, ass he's gonna be physically 919 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 5: better than. You BUT i, DO i will not accept mental. 920 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 5: Mistakes And i'm telling we were the most disciplined. Team 921 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 5: we didn't, mate we didn't hurt ourselves Under, Jimmy, jimmy 922 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 5: we did not make mental. Mistakes and that's what really 923 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 5: helped us because because everybody, is you, know talent, wise you, 924 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 5: know in THE. Nfl in THE, nfl talent is extremely. 925 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 5: Close it's not like you, know every team is you, 926 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 5: know there's a huge gap in. Talent so this is 927 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 5: a team that makes the least mental, mistakes the team 928 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 5: that is the most, disciplined team that figures out a 929 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 5: way to turn the ball over or keep the ball in. 930 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 5: Hand that's that's a team who normally. 931 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 4: Wins any of the three stand out more special than the. 932 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 4: Other the way for the way you had to come 933 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 4: through that sea win that, game. 934 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 5: Well the first one is always the special. One the 935 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 5: first one was you, know in ninety two and that 936 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 5: was like our first time breaking, through so that was, 937 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 5: special and that was in my rookie. Year BUT i 938 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 5: would say the third one the memory there was we 939 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 5: went back To phoenix and we played in in Uh 940 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 5: Sun Devil stadium WHERE i played college all, that and 941 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 5: it was. Awesome. Man it was In i've been having 942 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 5: any ticket. REQUESTS i broke the. RULES i, KNOW i 943 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 5: brought the rules buying as many TICKETS i. Bought the 944 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 5: Family like it wasn't even just my, Family, bud it was, 945 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 5: teachers coaches that coached. Me oh, Man, MAN i just 946 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 5: but it was like it was those people that that 947 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 5: THAT i just went back BECAUSE i Was that was 948 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 5: an emotional time BECAUSE i can't tell you how many 949 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 5: teachers poured into, me how many coaches poured into, Me. 950 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 5: Drew i've never done, anything accomplished anything by, myself anything 951 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 5: and anything in my, life not one. Thing it's always 952 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,919 Speaker 5: been someone who gave me a, break or someone who 953 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 5: poured into, me or someone who lifted me up in 954 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 5: the bad. Times and those are the PEOPLE i wanted to, show. 955 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 5: MAN i just wanted TO i wanted to honor. Them 956 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 5: SO i gave up a whole bunch Of Super bowl 957 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,439 Speaker 5: tickets and then we ended up winning the. Game Uh 958 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 5: and it was just the icing on the. Cake, man it. 959 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 5: Was it was a really good. 960 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 2: Time had you keep them all out of that victory? 961 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 5: Party they? Did they, came they, all they. Came yeah, 962 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 5: yeah And Barry switzer let them. Right half A phoenix over, 963 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 5: there half Of maryville in, there. 964 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 2: Right how far was that From? 965 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 5: Phoenix, uh well it's In phoenix on the west side of. 966 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 5: Town so from From penn timp's about twenty five minutes this, 967 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 5: Man oh my. 968 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 4: Goodness and so coming through they Had Super bowls there alright, 969 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 4: already and you saw how The patrick's being a big 970 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 4: build up, already you, know so you were prepared for 971 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 4: that first time it came. 972 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 5: Around but, anyway talking about. 973 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 4: Being, prepared you were prepared for life after. Football let's 974 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 4: talk a little. 975 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 5: Bit about that and what you're doing now in your. 976 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 4: Life after, football a little bit about your family and 977 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 4: you let your kids, play your young man play. 978 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 2: Football you, KNOW i had one. 979 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 4: Son, yeah he didn't want to, play and it was, 980 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 4: okay you're, okay, Right but we'll talk about what you're 981 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 4: doing now And Darren woodson's life after, football and then 982 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 4: we're going to talk about the elephant in the, room 983 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 4: The Pro Football hall of. 984 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: Fame let's do that when we get him back on 985 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 2: the route. 986 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 6: Tree every day begins with a, promise a promise to 987 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 6: work hard and to build the. 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Matters that's, why in the rare event 1021 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 13: of a network, outage you'll automatically get a bill credit 1022 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 13: for a full day's service for wireless downtime lasting sixty 1023 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 13: minutes and more caused by single incident impacting ten more 1024 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 13: towers must be connected to impact. 1025 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 12: Tower don't set about. It restrictions and exclusions. Apply seet 1026 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 12: Dot COM sluch guarantee for full. 1027 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 4: Details Ralph, Tree all, right welcome back to The Rap. 1028 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 4: Tree the original eighty eight sitting across from me as 1029 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 4: the Great Darren. Woodson and what do you, uh you 1030 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 4: know you're talking about. Preparation you did all that through, 1031 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 4: college three Super bowls and now you're out of THE, 1032 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 4: nfl and, uh what were you going to? 1033 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 5: Do? NO i KNEW i wasn't gonna GO i. KNEW i, mean, 1034 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 5: LOOK i had a. PLAN i, had LIKE i had 1035 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 5: a plan with some of My my agent was a 1036 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 5: guy named, is a guy Named George, bass still one 1037 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 5: of my mentor still. Friend, oh, Absolutely George. Bass it 1038 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 5: was THE. Cfo not only did he represent, Myself Michael, 1039 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 5: irvin AND i remember the basketball Player Larry. Johnson he 1040 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 5: represented about ye Had he had a group of about 1041 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 5: eight players that he. Represented but his day job was 1042 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 5: he was THE cfo of a group of a retail 1043 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 5: group Called weber And. Company AND i used to watch 1044 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 5: them do target super targets all up and down The 1045 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 5: North tollway and they did a great job and they 1046 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 5: made they they were killing it back, then AND i 1047 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 5: need TO i just. WANTED i was curious to know 1048 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 5: what they were. Doing and he told, me, yes you're 1049 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 5: curious what you take down on the office space in 1050 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 5: the off. Season? Wow cool and come watch what we're. 1051 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 5: Doing and that's exactly WHAT i. DID i took down office, 1052 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 5: space watch they're doing became you, know it's got more. 1053 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 5: Involved but THAT i kind of knew WHEN i got 1054 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 5: done THAT i was going to do something involving real. 1055 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 5: Estate and WHEN i finally, Finished roger told me that 1056 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 5: HE i should go into real estate, immediately AND i 1057 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 5: chose the. OPPOSITE i went ahead and went INTO tv, 1058 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 5: okay which figure, yeah BECAUSE i was. Comfortable it was it, 1059 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 5: was you, Know drew was just. COMFORTABLE i Just i've 1060 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 5: been around football all my. LIFE i actually, thought you, 1061 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 5: know in my mind is AND i had the back 1062 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 5: injury which retired. Me and the doctor, said, hey you're 1063 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 5: you're you're the nerve in your back will healed in 1064 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 5: the next eight seven eight. Months AND i told part, 1065 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 5: ourselves is, LIKE i don't want you to, retire and he, 1066 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 5: said but go, ahead take your eight months off and 1067 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 5: you're coming back after. That AND i JUST i JUST 1068 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 5: i just couldn't do it. Anymore BUT i ended up 1069 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 5: going TO uh going TO espn and working there as 1070 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 5: a as an analyst FOR Nfl live And Sports center 1071 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 5: and all, that and that was my. Turn that was 1072 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 5: my natural transition and you, know in the in the, 1073 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 5: end it led me back to where my heart is 1074 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 5: and that's in commercial real. Estate, okay so how's business going? 1075 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 5: Now very? Good, yeah this is a good C, no we're. 1076 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 5: PARTNERS i have multiple, partners right and we just actually 1077 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 5: got acquired by a much larger firm a couple of 1078 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 5: years ago In crussa and we're still managing. Partners but you, 1079 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 5: Know i'm going to always do this is a commercial 1080 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,280 Speaker 5: real Estate, yeah so what do you do exactly What roger? 1081 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 5: Did you, Know roger is the pioneer of tenant. Rep 1082 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 5: tenant rep absolutely so tenant. Rep and and he showed, 1083 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 5: me he showed us a lot my partners come from 1084 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 5: that stabat tree and that's what we. Do so that's 1085 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 5: that's What roger. 1086 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 2: Was doing it when the market was a little different. 1087 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 5: Around oh. 1088 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 2: Right you, know it's a little more of a, challenge. 1089 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 5: Much more of a. Challenge it's much more of a 1090 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 5: challenge today because of the competition that's out. There you, 1091 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,800 Speaker 5: Know roger basically had to cut his teeth and basically 1092 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 5: pioneer the industry early. On uh and then he sold 1093 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 5: his company for a. Night, Yeah richards, yeah, yeah, yeah 1094 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 5: he did a great. 1095 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 4: Job but, yeah WHEN i, retired you, know he tried 1096 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 4: to get me involved in the, business AND i, SAID 1097 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 4: i appreciate, that BUT i want to do my own. 1098 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 5: THING i wanted to sell. Headwork. 1099 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 4: Guy had these two guys beating on, me wanting to 1100 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 4: do it for a whole football season and. 1101 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,879 Speaker 2: EVERYTHING i finally agreed to do. 1102 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 4: THAT i, Said, roger, uh let me try this and 1103 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 4: if it doesn't, work you, Know i'll be at your. 1104 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 2: Door and BUT i need a little investment. 1105 00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 4: Money he initially invested in my trusted me that, well, 1106 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 4: wow you, know and h and we had success doing, IT, 1107 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 4: nfl all the major sports leagues and all. That did 1108 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 4: it for twenty three years and when it came come 1109 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 4: every year we Pay roger back interest and every let it. 1110 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 5: Ride let it. Ride never never. Took that's the kind of. 1111 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 4: Guy but being around, him you, KNOW i learned a 1112 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 4: lot about business acumen and all. That and of course 1113 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 4: the way Coach landry ran the, team it was like 1114 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 4: a business, anyway you, know, uh setting, goals, ways means 1115 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 4: and methods to reach those goals and all that kind of, 1116 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 4: stuff and analytical how we did. It the computer printouts 1117 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 4: and stuff like. That that was all before your. Time 1118 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 4: that's all, preparation you. Know and we used to come 1119 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 4: off field on A, thursday which was a defensive, day 1120 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 4: And Robert, newhouse they're running out of the the locker 1121 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 4: room without even sharing where you, Going, ROGER i got 1122 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 4: a class. 1123 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 5: Over here in real. Estate where you? Going New? 1124 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 2: House, WELL i got a class AT Ut. 1125 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 4: Dallas you know What Robert newhouse was while he was, 1126 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 4: playing he was a balls. 1127 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 5: Bondsman, WELL i didn't. 1128 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 4: Know we were balaling people out On, tuesday which was 1129 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 4: our off. 1130 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 5: Day he'd sit at the courthouse to baling people. Out, 1131 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 5: wow through the. Bells but we had to do. Things, 1132 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 5: yeah that pre paris after. Football that is so. Crazy 1133 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 5: you having crazy stories like, that your, Guy, no, man 1134 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,439 Speaker 5: we played football LIKE i came. In WHEN i came 1135 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 5: in the only. Thing And jimmy was pretty much the 1136 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 5: beginning of an off season program in THE, Nfl like 1137 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 5: he started the whole advent of having an off season. 1138 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 5: Program so you didn't have any. Excuses you had to be. 1139 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 5: THERE i had to be there early morning and starting 1140 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 5: In march and getting ready for the season to come. 1141 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 5: Up but In march. SEVENTEENTH i think it was like 1142 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 5: sixteen seventeenth of every year that we worked out as a, 1143 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 5: group as a as a defensive back, group and did 1144 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 5: everything we needed to, do got our you, know watch 1145 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,839 Speaker 5: a little film and, whatnot and then we went. Home 1146 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,439 Speaker 5: i'd be home at about nine thirty am ten o'clock every, 1147 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 5: morning and then THEN i would go over to to 1148 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 5: To George bass or whatnot and go over to the. 1149 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 5: Office BUT i, didn't you, know we didn't have like 1150 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 5: that second. JOB i, mean what you guys are doing was. 1151 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 5: INCREDIBLE i, mean you guys, worked you, know jobs while 1152 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 5: you were, playing and that just wasn't a part of. 1153 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 4: It we had To, yeah making no. Money my first 1154 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 4: year salary was fourteen. Five what was yours first? 1155 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 5: Year my first? Year oh my, god my first. Year oh, 1156 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 5: MAN i didn't get any. 1157 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 2: Cash, honestly oh man paid out over a, season. 1158 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 5: DUDE i got to sign the bonus, early like at 1159 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 5: one point, four like it. Was it was definitely how 1160 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 5: old twenty two your? Pocket, YEAH i had a little. 1161 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 5: Cash But i'll say, This, DREW i REMEMBER i still 1162 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 5: remember you calling. Me you don't. Remember, No SO i 1163 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,279 Speaker 5: signed a. Contract it was the largest safety contract and 1164 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 5: it was a six, year thirty six million dollar. Contract 1165 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 5: and you call. Me you called me and you WAS 1166 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 5: i working FOR. Tv, no, no you called me to congratulate. Me, 1167 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 5: yeah and you probably don't. REMEMBER i don't, remember, hey 1168 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 5: BUT i don't. Remember, yes tell, it so tell. ME i. 1169 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 5: Signed and it was like the next day and the 1170 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 5: news the news that, broke AND i remember getting a. 1171 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 5: CALL i didn't EVEN i didn't recognize your, number AND 1172 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 5: i ended up picking up and you, said, hey this 1173 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,919 Speaker 5: Is drew pre you know you. Are, hey this Is Drew. 1174 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 5: PEARSON i, said, Hey, drew how are? You? Said i'm doing. 1175 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 5: Great they, say you, SAID i just want to congratulate 1176 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 5: you on your your new. Contract AND i, said, MAN 1177 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 5: i appreciate. That and you, said you know, what, man 1178 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 5: you made more money you tell me this than half 1179 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 5: of our team in that one. Deal and you, said, 1180 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 5: Man god bless. You and that was. It that was. 1181 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 5: It SO i appreciated. That. Man, NO i, still, DUDE 1182 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,800 Speaker 5: i remember a lot of. Things that's still trying to 1183 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 5: get a fee for. 1184 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 2: That SHOULD i send you an? 1185 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 5: Invoice you want to get Your, yeah right, On. 1186 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 2: Woodie but, anyway the, family everybody's. 1187 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 5: Good and all that is, great. Man and you know 1188 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 5: we were all trying to get into that real estate 1189 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 5: game and you Know i'm trying to bring them. Up. 1190 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 5: Man that's that's that's what we. 1191 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 2: Do we're gonna wrap it. 1192 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 4: Up but when we wrap it, up talk about The 1193 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 4: hall Of fame and all that and how we all 1194 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 4: go through this process and everybody is different for, everybody 1195 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 4: but it's The Pro Football hall Of, fame, right the 1196 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 4: most prestigious of all hall of. 1197 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 2: Fames we'll do that With Darren woodson when we. 1198 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 6: Return every day begins with a, promise a promise to 1199 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 6: work hard and to build a. 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Talent you have some great, talent 1220 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 9: and they got some. Fight hoping this is the year me. 1221 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 9: Too Oh I'm. Cody by the, Way I'm. Travis nice 1222 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 9: to meet. 1223 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 5: You. Travis Go Cowboys. Go cowboys make a. 1224 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 10: New friend based solely on their shirt. Choice what would 1225 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 10: you like the power to? Do bank Of america the 1226 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 10: official bank of The Dallas Cowboys, corporright twenty twenty. 1227 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 11: Five bank Of America corporation. 1228 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 5: AT at AND. 1229 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 13: T we guarantee our network so you can talk college 1230 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 13: football with your bff while Taking buster to the. 1231 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 14: Vet, hey, YEAH i can't believiate the whole thing of chicken, wings. 1232 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 15: AND i can't believe we're staging a. 1233 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 13: Comeback staying connected matters that's why in the rare event 1234 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 13: of a network, outage you'll automatically get a bill credit 1235 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 13: for a full day service for wireless downtime lasting sixty 1236 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 13: minutes and more caused by single incident impacting ten more 1237 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 13: towers must connected to imact. 1238 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 12: Tower don't set about it restrictions and exclusion. Apply set 1239 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 12: DOT comslus guarantee for full details to THE relp. 1240 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 2: Tree all, Right, woody welcome back to the. 1241 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 4: Show thank you in the talk Some hall Of fame, 1242 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 4: man you've been a finalist a few. 1243 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 5: Times huh, yeah, yeah, yeah what four? Times i'm not 1244 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 5: sure semi four? Times, yeah yeah. 1245 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 4: Yeah so what did you think about this last go? 1246 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 4: Around did you have? 1247 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 2: Hopes because, YEAH i MEAN i. 1248 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 5: THINK i think we all. HAVE i mean, NO i 1249 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 5: didn't even think about it that, Way. DREW i just thought, 1250 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 5: like it's my time to go. IN i didn't think 1251 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 5: it was you, know anything about timing or. WHATNOT i 1252 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 5: just felt, like you, know, LOOK i think as a, 1253 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 5: competitor you just And i'm sure this is the same 1254 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 5: way you thought as a competitor and a guy put 1255 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 5: so much time into the game and winning championships and 1256 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 5: being a team player and running down on special teams 1257 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 5: and doing all the little things it took to win. 1258 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 5: GAMES i just felt Like i've always felt the that 1259 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 5: that spot that you, KNOW i should be in The 1260 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 5: hall Of fame, Period AND i. DON'T i don't have 1261 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 5: any regrets by saying, that or or any shame in saying. 1262 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 5: THAT i just felt, like that's that's the natural next, 1263 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 5: step and it hasn't happened just, yet and and why 1264 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 5: it hasn't, HAPPENED i have no, Idea But i'm not, 1265 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 5: gonna you, know bury myself on. This. Man i'm grateful 1266 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 5: still for the. OPPORTUNITY i still have an. Pertunity, MAN 1267 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 5: i still have an opportunity to make a change and you, 1268 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 5: know and change lives and do those. Things But i'm 1269 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 5: still you, know it's still. There. Still it's not like 1270 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 5: the doors, closed so we'll see what. 1271 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 4: Happened oh, no it's not. Closed it never closes until 1272 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 4: you get. In THEN i say. Close it make it 1273 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 4: tougher for the next. Guy i'm in. NOW i waited 1274 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 4: thirty eight years and decade and all, there And i'm 1275 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 4: watching other receivers and other guys that were second team 1276 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 4: all decade going. In but the one THING i only did. 1277 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 4: ONCE i never criticized The hall Of. Famer like Even 1278 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 4: Steve largent WHEN i went to, college he was two 1279 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 4: YEARS i was two years ahead of, him AND i 1280 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 4: saw him go. In but ALL i said When steve 1281 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 4: went in is that if he's A hall Of, famer 1282 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 4: THEN i must be one. 1283 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 5: Two so wait by. 1284 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,439 Speaker 4: Turn so you just have to to wait for that 1285 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 4: time to come. Around but it is a hard. WAIT 1286 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 4: i waited thirty eight. Years and. 1287 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 5: But here's the. 1288 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Thing when it, comes it always seems like the right. 1289 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 5: Time all, right that was the right. 1290 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 2: Time it came ten years. 1291 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 4: Earlier it might have been the right time for, Me 1292 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,479 Speaker 4: but when it, came it was the right. Time things 1293 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,200 Speaker 4: were going on in my life, personally business wise and 1294 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 4: things like that THAT i needed that. UPLIFT i needed that. 1295 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 4: BOOST i needed that instant. Credibility and that's what The 1296 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 4: hall Of fame did for. 1297 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 5: Me and the same thing for. You. 1298 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 2: Man you're talking about closing. Deals, man you'll be coming. 1299 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 4: In if you got something to, Sell you'll be able 1300 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 4: to get in the door to sell. 1301 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 5: It. Okay but that's. 1302 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 4: What kind of recognition This hall Of fame. Is and 1303 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,919 Speaker 4: the one THING i never did WAS i criticized the process, once, 1304 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 4: okay AND i felt bad after doing that because when 1305 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 4: your time does come and you're in the hall, again 1306 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 4: That hall Of fame, luncheon you don't want to be 1307 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 4: in that room where you criticize people that now you're 1308 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:56,920 Speaker 4: up in, there AND. 1309 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,919 Speaker 5: I agree with. THAT i think there's something to be said, about, 1310 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 5: uh the honor code that goes along with being A 1311 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 5: hall Of. Famer but that's never gonna sound. Spoken it's. 1312 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 5: Unspoken but that's never gonna stop. Me you. Know, LOOK 1313 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 5: i feel LIKE i told you, EARLIER i feel Like 1314 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 5: i'm built a certain, way AND i never. Again i'm 1315 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 5: not ashamed for me to ever SAY i am as 1316 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 5: competitive as a person that there ever. Will that's the 1317 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 5: reason WHY i burn and burn as hot AS i 1318 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 5: do five thirty and five fifteen in the. Morning every. 1319 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 5: MORNING i burn, hot, Dude And i've Always i've always 1320 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 5: burned hot like, this and that's the reason Why i've 1321 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 5: been able to win, championships play at the highest, level 1322 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 5: start a, business sell a, business do all those. Things 1323 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 5: and when you have that, mindset and when you have 1324 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 5: that internally in, you you don't. Satisfy you're not satisfied 1325 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 5: until you get. There So I'm i'm still, Hot i'm 1326 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 5: still Gonna i'm gonna trust the process BECAUSE i know 1327 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 5: at some point it's it's gonna. Happen BUT i was 1328 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 5: the same way with, You. DREW i was kind of 1329 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 5: WHEN i found out that you, WEREN'T i was like 1330 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 5: what and the, like that's not that wasn't, cool that 1331 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 5: didn't sit. Well i've never been in a finals or 1332 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 5: semicon and, well in The ring of, honor you never, said, 1333 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 5: WELL i waited twenty nine years getting a ring of 1334 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 5: absolutely that never set well as. Well so it's, like you, 1335 01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 5: know that's that's you, Know AND i don't think we. 1336 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 5: SHOULD i don't think we should ever ever sit. Back 1337 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 5: AND i don't care if it's. Not it doesn't have 1338 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 5: to be just A hall of. Fame it can't. Be 1339 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 5: it's not just you, know those. Things it could be 1340 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 5: anything outside of. That like settling is not, good, BROTHER 1341 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 5: i just can't. Settle, Yeah And i'll never be. Settling 1342 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,959 Speaker 5: and it's okay to be uncomfortable and make people feel 1343 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 5: a little bit uncomfortable at times because you're not. Settled it's, Okay, 1344 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 5: well you. 1345 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 4: Know what it feels like to be A hall Of 1346 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 4: fame Or Arizona Sports Hall fame and all That Arizona. 1347 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 5: State i'm missing on so. 1348 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 2: Here to? 1349 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 4: DO i like to Bro i'm in Nine hall Of 1350 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 4: fames From pop order football all the way on up 1351 01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 4: man AND i had. 1352 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 2: That NOW i can say The Pro Football hall Of. 1353 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 2: Fame but, anyway your kids do they follow? 1354 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 4: You? 1355 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 5: They, oh, man you go to the. Games some all 1356 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 5: kids are older, now they've been they played a little 1357 01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 5: bit and they play a little, basketball played. Baseball had 1358 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 5: one that played, baseball went To Oklahoma state and he's twenty. 1359 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 5: Four and THEN i have a nine year old now 1360 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 5: that loves playing, football not sure if that's what he's 1361 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 5: going to. Do AND i don't put pressure on the, 1362 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 5: kids LIKE i allow him to do whatever they want 1363 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 5: to do that they're passionate, about because in the, end 1364 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 5: like you, KNOW i keep trying to tell a lot 1365 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 5: of these guys who kids who they think their kids 1366 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 5: to the Next Tom brady or the next, like let 1367 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 5: them enjoy the. Moment let your kid enjoy the, moment, 1368 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 5: like does not force him he don't want to play 1369 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 5: or she does not want to play. Volleyball don't force 1370 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 5: them to do something they don't want to do because 1371 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 5: the ones out there people. FORGET i can't tell you 1372 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 5: how many TIMES i was out there by myself early 1373 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,680 Speaker 5: in the morning and it was hot, heck AND i 1374 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 5: had to get things done by. Myself then was my 1375 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 5: mom wasn't out, there my friends weren't out. There it 1376 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 5: was just me and the heat and my blood pressure 1377 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 5: and my heart rate was. Racing like it's that's on, us, 1378 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 5: dude that is on. Us so, like allow them to be, 1379 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 5: them figure out where their passions. 1380 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 2: Were that's what my. 1381 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 4: Son you, KNOW i got two beautiful daughters and one 1382 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 4: son and a different mom and all that two daughters 1383 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 4: were playing parenthood. 1384 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 5: And my son was. 1385 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 4: Whoops but you know he, uh he never got into. 1386 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 4: SPORTS i made him play football at the you, know 1387 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 4: the pewee football and he almost got killed doing. That 1388 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 4: BUT i found out later he's very, artistic you, know in, 1389 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 4: music and he's a graphic designer. Now he graduated From 1390 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 4: loyola marrinmount you. Know but you got to let them be, them. 1391 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 4: Right you can't make them be what you are exactly, 1392 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 4: now especially a football. Player you, know you if you 1393 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 4: don't if you don't want to be you can't make. 1394 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 4: NOBODY i can't make anybody play that game because of 1395 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 4: what it's all. About anything you want to, Add, darren 1396 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 4: charities or anything before we get out of, here let 1397 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,919 Speaker 4: you add here we've got just like sixty minute show. 1398 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,959 Speaker 4: Man you got enough here for the last two and fourth. 1399 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 4: Shows we appreciate you really taking the. 1400 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 5: Time, Man no. Problem and it's pretty cool here at 1401 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 5: the cat it Is, man these guys have did a great. 1402 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 2: Job you got me here at The cowboys this name 1403 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 2: oh did? 1404 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 5: They? Yeah? Uh you know that is that's? 1405 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 4: Special and action with me running past routes and, yeah 1406 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 4: i'd say the most three most important things for a. 1407 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 4: Receiver number, one catch the, football or you catch the, 1408 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 4: football they'll find to play, fast, slow, big a, little 1409 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,240 Speaker 4: they'll get you a. Second now you're on the, field 1410 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 4: run good, discipline rounds and run where you're supposed to, 1411 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 4: be and the timing and all that and work on. 1412 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 4: That and the third thing a lot of receivers don't 1413 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 4: want to do is. Block oh you, know But, landry 1414 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 4: you aren't playing if you. Didn't Tony corsett with ninety 1415 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 4: nine through the last, block. 1416 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 5: You slipped into. Somebody my four to seven feet running With. 1417 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 5: Tony good, THING i had a head, start. 1418 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 2: Busure taking the time and uh. 1419 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 5: Joining us here, MAN i appreciate. It, brother right on all. 1420 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 4: Right, hood there it goes the Great Darren woodson right 1421 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 4: here on The Route. Tree we'll be back with another, 1422 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 4: episode uh with The Route. 1423 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,920 Speaker 2: Tree right here at The cowboy. Headquarters we're so proud 1424 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 2: to be. 1425 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 4: Here and thank You chris And, malcolm my executive, producer 1426 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,760 Speaker 4: for bringing in all these awesome, guests. 1427 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 5: Uh for the. 1428 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 4: Show and uh we're streaming live right here on The 1429 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 4: cowboy New. Hood we'll see your next episode hood. 1430 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 1: Up this has been a production Of dallascowboys Dot com 1431 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 1: and The Dallas Cowboys Football club