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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This

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Speaker 1: is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And this

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Speaker 1: week on Weird House Cinema, we're we're obviously tackling G two.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be looking at nine nineties Grimlins to the

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Speaker 1: New Batch. This is Joe Dante. Is colossal sequel to

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Speaker 1: four film Gremlins, which I had assumed when we picked

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Speaker 1: it was a Christmas movie, but it's not. The original

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Speaker 1: Gremlins is a Christmas movie. G two might well be

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Speaker 1: in June for all I know. Yeah, I was released

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Speaker 1: in June. Um. But yeah, I had this false memory

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Speaker 1: in my head that this too was a Christmas movie.

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Speaker 1: And evidently I'm not alone. I think you sounds like

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Speaker 1: you had the same thing in your brain. And I

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Speaker 1: rented the Blu ray from Video Drome here in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: the video store here in Atlanta, and they had it

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Speaker 1: categorize with Christmas movies as well for the Holidays. So

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Speaker 1: I guess this is like a collective misremembering that we're

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Speaker 1: engaging in here. So it doesn't take place at Christmas,

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Speaker 1: but it is a Christmas Tree of a movie, and

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Speaker 1: it overfloweth with lights and uh and and shiny objects

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Speaker 1: and and present spilling forth from beneath the bows. Absolutely now,

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Speaker 1: I strongly remember the build up to this film's release.

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Speaker 1: I would have been eleven at the time. It was

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Speaker 1: said to come out in June. Gremlins to merchandise was everywhere.

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Speaker 1: The film seemed just destined to satisfy everyone. The trailers

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Speaker 1: just looked fun, even though I don't think i'd actually

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Speaker 1: seen Grimlins one at that point, or maybe I've seen

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Speaker 1: parts of it on TV or something, but I was

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Speaker 1: convinced Grimlins Too was going to change the world. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it didn't really change the world. The box office numbers

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Speaker 1: ended up being I think disappointing. The critical reception was

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Speaker 1: kind of mixed. At the time, Um, I was not

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Speaker 1: aware of any of this, so I stayed strong with

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Speaker 1: my desire to see Gruman's two, and when it finally

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Speaker 1: became available on home video, I got to rent it,

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Speaker 1: I got to watch it, and even then, at age eleven,

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Speaker 1: I realized this film was a lot. Uh. Did the

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Speaker 1: presence of the Hulkster have any sway with you at

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Speaker 1: this time? No? No, not not at all. Oh okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: was it only later you would you would come to

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Speaker 1: appreciate pro wrestling? Yeah, that would that would come later

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Speaker 1: for me at the time. You know, you knew who

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Speaker 1: Hulk Cogan was because a superstar um and yeah spoiler,

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Speaker 1: but but Hul Coogan is in the movie. He's one

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Speaker 1: of many Cano's many appearances in this film. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think Gremlins Too is kind of ahead of its time.

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Speaker 1: I do see that critical reception at the time was mixed.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people didn't know what to

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Speaker 1: make of this movie. But I think if something like

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Speaker 1: I think the the reaction might be more resounding appreciation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, I don't know if if someone could

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Speaker 1: pull it off as well as as Joe Dante and

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Speaker 1: his his his team here did though, because this is

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Speaker 1: one of those rare films that is very self aware

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Speaker 1: and yet delivers like it's it knows it's goofy, it's

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Speaker 1: going for goofy, it's breaking the fourth wall, it's making

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Speaker 1: fun of the previous Gremlins movie. It's it's totally wild

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Speaker 1: in this regard, and this is the same kind of

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Speaker 1: self awareness that will that has driven many other films

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Speaker 1: just straight into the ditch. As far as watchability and

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Speaker 1: enjoyability goes, Yeah, I would say it's kind of the

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Speaker 1: The Evil Dead two to Grimlin's Evil Dead one, except

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Speaker 1: whereas the Evil Dead movies are, they're they're kind of

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Speaker 1: a parlor drama that you know, they take place in

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Speaker 1: a single location. They're very focused. This is a voluminous, crazy,

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Speaker 1: have come to realize that Growin's two is something special. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's definitely grown a cult following over time. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There was that wonderful key and Peel sketch about the

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Speaker 1: Hollywood sequel Doctor, which is correct and yet doesn't even

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Speaker 1: doesn't even like tease half of the weirdness. And then

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Speaker 1: the the oddities that pop up in this film, Like

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Speaker 1: it would already be insane. But that's just half the story. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I think I have to realize, especially after rewatching it,

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Speaker 1: and is, in fact, the greatest Grimlin movie we could

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Speaker 1: like Gizmo is so adorable, and then mixing that with

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Speaker 1: I remember the rules, right. There's an important part early

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Speaker 1: on when when a when the father character buys Gizmo

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Speaker 1: from the antique shop and he has told the three

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Speaker 1: rules you cannot violate. You cannot shine sunlight bright light,

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Speaker 1: especially sunlight on the magua, because that will kill it.

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Speaker 1: Number two is you can never get it wet, and

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Speaker 1: these these rules are great they're real head scratcher to

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Speaker 1: try and analyze the green ones to itself pokes a

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Speaker 1: little fun at this and uh and many years ago

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Speaker 1: I had great fun when I was writing for How

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Speaker 1: Stuff Works, doing a How Stuff Works article about Gremlin's

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Speaker 1: and Magua where I made a go at describing the

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Speaker 1: science behind all these weird things that they do. But

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Speaker 1: it it really you really have to twist yourself into

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Speaker 1: a not to do that kind of thing. The other

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Speaker 1: things I remember, though, Gremlins being killed by Billy's mom

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Speaker 1: remember the Gremlins at one point watching snow White in

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Speaker 1: main human character Billy, He's like, they're watching snow White

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Speaker 1: and they love it. Uh. And I also remember a

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Speaker 1: scene of Gremlin's raucously partying at a bar, and there's

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Speaker 1: But then the big thing that's stuck in my head

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Speaker 1: part of the movie where Phoebe Kates is delivering a

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Speaker 1: face value. You you don't pick and say, well, I

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Speaker 1: it seems to be divided about whether it's a cute

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Speaker 1: And I don't recall it really accomplishing much for the

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Speaker 1: to tell anyway that this infamous soliloquy is parodied in

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Speaker 1: So I wasn't really aware of Gremlins too until probably college,

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Speaker 1: And I said no, and he was like, you've got

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Speaker 1: to watch it because there's a scene where Hulk Hogan

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Speaker 1: me because you know, I've seen the original and that

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Speaker 1: of course it's got fantasy elements, but it's a it's

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Speaker 1: will say, and we'll get to the hull Cogan scene.

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Speaker 1: The hull Cogan scene is earned. It does not feel

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Speaker 1: supposed to be funny, but G two goes to heights

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Speaker 1: unimagined by the first film. So the original Gremlins is

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Speaker 1: They are not just any movie monster. Most movie monsters

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Speaker 1: are more than anything, a threat. They're scary because they

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Speaker 1: would be better uh designated as just chaos. The Gremlins

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Speaker 1: represent anarchy, disorder, the dangerous and destructive side of fun,

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Speaker 1: and in both movies, but especially the second, you see

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Speaker 1: and making a mess. Yeah, that the classic Dungeons and

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Speaker 1: wrote the nineteen nineteen rebel movie Over the Edge did

424
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Speaker 1: uncredited work on the Tron screenplay, as well as nine

425
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Speaker 1: nine Martians Go Home and Dante's Matinee. I think a

426
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: lot of this movie, though, I mean, I don't know

427
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: because I'm not looking at the script right now, but

428
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: I imagine a lot of stuff in it is just

429
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: concept work more than like writing out a scene with dialogue,

430
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: like oh what, we showed this here and then we

431
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: transition to that, and then we had somebody just improv

432
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: and and so forth. Though it would be an interesting

433
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: experiment to see someone write the script for Gremlins too,

434
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: as if everything in the movie is on the page. Yeah,

435
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: it's a good it's a good one for like really

436
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: mean spirited screenplay writing. Uh, teachers, that would be great. Okay. Now,

437
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: normally we don't talk about special effects until later, but

438
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: we have to mention that the special effects supervisor and

439
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: co producer or credit on this is uh the legendary

440
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: Rick Baker. Special effects are front and center in Gremlins Too,

441
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: and they are phenomenal. Yeah. When you when you think

442
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: about Rick Baker, uh, and and I recommend you do

443
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: he He has a great instagram by the way, definitely

444
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: worth following. Um. You know, he's directed so many monster

445
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: movies and also a lot of non monster movies, and

446
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: it's easy to focus on things like an American werewolf

447
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: in London or video Drome, or to go in a

448
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: different direction, guerrillas in the midst. But I have to

449
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: say Baker and his team just absolutely knock it out

450
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: of the park with Grimlins Too. You go back and

451
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: you look at the original Gremlins and the creatures have character,

452
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: but they're very rough around the edges. There's a very

453
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: much there. There's still kind of a feeling of throw

454
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: a puppet across the room kind of a thing. You know.

455
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 1: Gremlins Too is a hugely forward in puppetry and special effects,

456
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: giving us just the whole mob of convincing grimlins, each

457
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: with their own character and Gizmo Gizmo himself in this

458
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: is just a living creature. I mean, Gizmo alone is

459
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: a master stroke in this film. He's as real as

460
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: he is adorable, and he is so adorable. Every moment

461
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: he's on screen, the cute could not be cranked up

462
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: any higher. It's just like supernatural. I mean not it's

463
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: it's like supernatural, but also super normal stimuli. The close ups,

464
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: especially like anytime Gizmos on the screen, you just can't

465
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: help but squirm at just how adorable he is. I

466
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: had the exact same reaction. The pets in this movie

467
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: are alive. You could not tell me those are not

468
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: real living gremlins. Yeah, they're just they're just so good.

469
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: And of course with the gremlins proper, they're so gross.

470
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: There's so many gross scenes with the there's some real slime,

471
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: but then also there are lots of fun, very cartooning

472
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: effects and on the and on the subject of cartoons,

473
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: Worth pointing out that animation legend Chuck Jones the opening

474
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: and closing animation sequences for this that feature. Although the

475
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: opening has bugs, Bunny and Daffy Duck in it, and

476
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: at the end we have Porky Pig as well, and

477
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: no gremlins the opening animation is just an unrelated bugs

478
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Bunny cartoon. Yeah, but I think that sets the tone

479
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: appropriately because it's just chaos absolutely, And yeah, if if

480
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: you're your intro, it's it's like they're saying, this is

481
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: going to be a cartoon. Just bear that in mind

482
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: as we continue. All Right, So you want to try

483
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: to do some of the cast, Yeah, I'm I'm not

484
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: going to get into the very small parts. If they

485
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: come up later in discussion, we'll reference them. But yeah,

486
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people I'm not going to reference.

487
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: Let's just start with our main human cast, human characters

488
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: who have some degree of you know, of of of

489
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: of of character, and I don't know an arc if

490
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: you will, but at the top we have we have

491
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Speaker 1: billion Kate. Billy is played by Zach Gallaghan sixty four.

492
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Speaker 1: This is our small town kid from the first movie,

493
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: now living and working in the Big Apple. He's probably

494
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: best known for his role in the Gremlins movies, but

495
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: he was also in wax Work, It's sequel. He's in

496
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Hell Razor three Hell on Earth, which in a weird

497
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: way is almost the Grimlins too of the Hell Raiser movies,

498
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: but fall short of actually like pulling that off. So

499
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: you can imagine the keym peel sketch style script meeting

500
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: for Hell Raiser three. It's like, what about c D

501
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: C D cinebyte. Um, it's in the movie. Yeah, but

502
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: he's also He's also in The Warlock, the Armageddon. He's

503
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: in the Strung Along episode of Tales from the Cript.

504
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: This is one of at least a couple of twisted

505
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: Puppeteer episodes. This is the one that starred Donald O'Connor

506
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: but not. Okay, so that's Billy. But then Kate is

507
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: played by Phoebe Kates born nineteen sixty three. This is

508
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: Billy's girlfriend from the first movie they've She's moved to

509
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: New York City with him and she also works at

510
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: the same high rise building. Other films of note include

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Speaker 1: N two's Fast Times at Ridgemont High eight three private School.

512
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: Oh and also Drop Dead Fred, in which Rick may

513
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: All plays her imaginary friend in a movie directed by

514
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: Atte DeJong, who also did Highway to Hell, which week

515
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: show previously. I don't think she's active as a as

516
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: an actor anymore. It could be mistaken on thatible. I

517
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: think she like runs a New York City boutique, and

518
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: she's been married to the actor Kevin Klein since. Very

519
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: very charming lead couple in both of these movies. It

520
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: is hard not to like Zach and Phoebe in these roles. Absolutely. Now,

521
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: we also have a character in this film by the

522
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Speaker 1: name of Daniel Clamp played by John Glover. So first

523
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: of all, let's just focus on the fact that this

524
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Speaker 1: is the actor John Glover. Um. John Glover is an

525
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: incredible character actor. He's got this this kind of this

526
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: like handsome, charming, impish uh um um vibe to him. Uh.

527
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: He plays the Mental Institution front desk guy and John

528
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: Carpenter's in the mouth of madness. I was going to

529
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: say he's kind of evil Hugh Grant, but actually I

530
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: think Hugh Grant is evil John Glover. Yeah, Like, there's

531
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: even as he plays. He plays a lot of villains,

532
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: but he brings a certain charm to them. Um. He

533
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: will not only sinister villains, but also he he especially

534
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: earlier in his career, he was able to play sort

535
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: of p P villains as well. I don't remember this

536
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: character entirely, but he played Bruce Cummings and Scrooged. I've

537
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: seen Scrooge, but I don't remember who that is. I

538
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: think this is just like the foil to Bill Murray,

539
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Like this is some guy Bill Murray's character doesn't like. Okay, Yeah,

540
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: which I guess is kind of a that's kind of

541
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: a trope character in and of itself. I think. He

542
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 1: also played the sinister bombmaker in Revenge Filtering Payback, and

543
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: he's had a lot of voice work as well. He

544
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: voiced the Riddler on Batman the animated series. Oh I

545
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: love Batman the MD series. We got a lot of

546
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: great voice work on that. Indeed, his his TV credits

547
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: are just all over the place. He's been in everything

548
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: from Tales from the Crypt to Murder. She wrote, Uh,

549
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: he also has Uh. He's had some interesting bit parts

550
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: over the years. He plays an ex boyfriend in Annie

551
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: Hall and has a weird scene in that, and he's

552
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: the Magnavolt salesman and RoboCop two. RoboCop two is another

553
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: movie that, in less child friendly way, has some Grimlin's

554
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: to type energy. I think, so, yeah, that's another one

555
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: I enjoy. Okay, but wait a minute, We've got some

556
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: some stuff going on with this character because he so

557
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: this is a kind of I don't know. You might

558
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: say he's sort of set up as a villain of

559
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: the movie but then doesn't really become one. His name

560
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: is Daniel Clamp and he plays a a sort of

561
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: fame hungry real estate developer in New York who owns

562
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: a famous tower. Yeah. Yeah, so there's a little bit

563
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: of Ted Turner to the character, and that he also

564
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: runs like a cable channel network or something. But yeah,

565
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: the Donald Trump parody vibes are extremely overt with this.

566
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: It's impossible to ignore. However, this isn't nearly as distracting

567
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: as you might think if you haven't seen this movie before,

568
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: or you perhaps haven't seen it since you were a kid. Um,

569
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: it's not like Donald Trump actually showing up in Home

570
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: alone too. And I think part of this is that

571
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: John Glover, of course, is just so good and has

572
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: sort of a natural charm to him, and he doesn't

573
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: do a straightforward impersonation. He's not doing an impersonation. Um,

574
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: all of this real life individual. The character of Daniel

575
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: Clamp goes off and kind of has its own dimensions. So, yeah,

576
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: he's he's greedy, he's obsessed with his own image, but

577
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: he's not the outright villain of the picture, and based

578
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: on a couple of different interviews I read one from

579
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: from Oh and there was also a Fresh Air with

580
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: Terry Gross interview with Glover where he talks about green

581
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: ones too. Based on all of this, it seems like

582
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: maybe he was going to be more of a villain

583
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: at some point in the development of the script, but

584
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: they pulled back on it for a few different reasons,

585
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: and so the final product feels distinct and a little

586
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: like it's definitely a parody of Trump, but it's not Trump,

587
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: and therefore I didn't find it nearly as distracting as

588
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: I kind of expected it to, you know, like it

589
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: doesn't force me to think about politics all that much

590
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: whilst watching a Gremlins movie. Yeah, it's also so it's

591
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: clearly the character is based on Donald Trump in terms

592
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: of situation, like he is a fame hungry uh Manhattan

593
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: real estate developer who owns the the high rise tower

594
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: where the movie is set, and yet it doesn't seem

595
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: to be strongly based on Trump's real personality, and the

596
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: way Glover plays it is an interesting choice. You can

597
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: almost feel the actor's role in diverting the character from

598
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: its original trajectory because of how much fun he's obviously

599
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: having with it. I think like elements of that raw,

600
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: ravenous greed and the you know, the narcissistic nastiness still

601
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: peek through, but Glover has transformed the character into something

602
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: very different, like more of an exuberant, oblivious man child

603
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: who is just so excited about being a billionaire and

604
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: he's thrilled at all the fun stuff that he gets

605
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: to do because he's a billionaire. I think the original,

606
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: more strictly trump like, more overtly villainous version of this

607
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: character would have worked, but it also would have been

608
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: more familiar, more like the like, you know, like the

609
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: villains we see in RoboCop and a bunch of other

610
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: movies from the period, which are great, by the way.

611
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Dick Jones, I love all the

612
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: o CP suits in RoboCop. But Glover's Daniel Clamp becomes

613
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: something different, kind of fresher and weirder. He plays this

614
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: character like a simple minded man who is surprised to

615
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: find himself so rich and powerful and famous and just

616
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: jazzed about it every day. Yeah, I think I think

617
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: that sums it up. So it's a fun performance. There's

618
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: a lot of screen time. Uh and uh and and

619
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: and and hangs around longer than you'd think, Like in

620
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: another version of grim Win's Too, he would have been

621
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: eaten by Grimwin about halfway through or something, or you know,

622
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,959
Speaker 1: launched out of a cannon or something. But that that

623
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: that's not how it goes down. All right, Let's see

624
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: other who other other actors of note here are? These

625
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: are kind of supporting characters. I'll try and move more

626
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: quickly through these. Uh. We have a character and Grandpa

627
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: Fred who pops up and honestly, up until this week,

628
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: I thought this was actually Grandpa Monster a k or

629
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: real name al Lewis, because that's essentially what the character is.

630
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: It's Grandpa Monster. He's a late night horror TV host.

631
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: But it's not al Lewis. It's Robert Prosky, who lived

632
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, known for such films as Michael

633
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 1: Mann's Thief as well as Michael Man's To Keep eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: Broadcast News missed out Mrs Doubt Fire and Dead Man Walking.

635
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: It took me a minute to uh figure out where

636
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: I recognized him most from, and I realized it was

637
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: from the the fantasy action film The Last Action Hero,

638
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: where Robert Prosky plays the film projectionist who gives the

639
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: kid in the movie the magic movie ticket that allows

640
00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: him to enter the world of films. Okay, alright, let's

641
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: see another character. Okay, this This character is basically clamps

642
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: right hand man. He's kind of like fixer and facilities manager.

643
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: It's the character Forster, played by Robert Picardo born nineteen

644
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: fifty three, a frequent Dante cast casting choice. UM. A

645
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of TV viewers are probably familiar with him from

646
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: such shows as or at least older TV viewers from

647
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: The Wonder Years, China Beach Star, Trek Voyager, and UH

648
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: and also Stargate. But he was also in the films

649
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: The Howling Uh. He was in the Seven Gromlins movie,

650
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Munchie's eighty Seven's Inner Space. Oh, he's Johnny cab in

651
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: total recall. I didn't realize that was him. I didn't either,

652
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: but he's credited as being the voice and the inspiration

653
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: for the likeness. Now I can hear it. As soon

654
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: as you said that the door opened, you got in.

655
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize this either, But in Ridley Scott's

656
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: five film Legend, UH, he plays Meg muckle Bones. Huh. Yeah, okay,

657
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have recognized him there either. No, I mean yeah,

658
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't recognize anybody under it. You could put anybody

659
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: in the nickmuchle Bones makeup and they would be unrecognizable.

660
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: But anyway, he's been in a ton of stuff. He

661
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: was also in the sixteens Hail Caesar from the Cohen Brothers. Okay,

662
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: in terms of villainous actors, though, we of course have

663
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: to point out that Christopher Lee is in this. Oh,

664
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: Christopher Lee is great in this. He plays a character

665
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: named doctor Cushing Catheter. Yeah, Dr Catheter? Uh? And I

666
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: think also obviously the first name is a is a

667
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: Peter Cushing reference? Oh oh, of course it is. Yeah,

668
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: that that one flew right past me. But but yeah,

669
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: he plays the head of the uh, the genetic manipulation

670
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: lab that is renting office space in the clamp Tower

671
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: or whatever it's called here. And yeah, he seems like

672
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: he's having a really good time hamming it up. Is

673
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: this um? This essentially a mad scientist? And it was

674
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: it was fun watching with my I watched the this

675
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: with my son, and when Christopher Lee showed up, he

676
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: was like Hey, it's Duku, and indeed it is Duku.

677
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: I love how when we very first meet him, he's

678
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: going through packages he received in the mail, hoping their

679
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: various kinds of disease samples. He's like, I want anthrax

680
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: and they give me the flu all right? Another bit

681
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: bit roll. This is a character that shows up seeming

682
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: more like an extra but has like a slightly bigger role.

683
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: Is that progresses? We have a Getty Watton Abby playing

684
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: um a character that I believe is credited as Mr Katsuji.

685
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: But essentially what we have here is is he plays

686
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: a stereotype of an Asian tourist, a man that we

687
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: see going around with a whole bunch of cameras, just

688
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: taking photographs NonStop and eventually gets roped into filming for

689
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: the Grandpa character or our horror host character. And I

690
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: guess there is a fun scene there where he says

691
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: he says, hey, do you know how to work a camera?

692
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: And he says, I am a camera and uh, and

693
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 1: then they go off. I don't know why people thought

694
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: this was so funny. There are so many movies from

695
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: the eighties that have the stereotype of the Japanese tourist

696
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: who won't stop taking pictures of everything. Uh It's it's

697
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: really annoying cliche. But at the same Getty watching Abbe

698
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: is an immensely likable guy, despite the fact that he's

699
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: unfortunately cast in these stereotypical roles throughout the eighties. Yeah,

700
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: I mean he he's still acting today in his roles

701
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: have certainly matured a whole lot, But um, yeah, he was.

702
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: This particular role is reminiscent of some of the offensively

703
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: stereotypical roles that that he played during the nineties, most

704
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: notably his role in Sixteen Candles. But he also he

705
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: pops up in other films, like he's in the otherwise

706
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: stylish but also problematic in otherwise Grace Jones film vamp Um.

707
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: He has this this very stereotypical and offensive character in

708
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: that as well. He was also in the weird al

709
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: movie u U HF. But I yeah, don't really remember

710
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: who he played in that. I do not remember either,

711
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: but uh F also a very chaotic fun movie. Now,

712
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: another character that returns from the previous Green Ones film,

713
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: at least in a very small role at the beginning,

714
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: is the character of Mr Wing, played by Key Luke

715
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: who lived nineteen o four through. Oh he's come up

716
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: on the show before. Yeah, yeah, he uh. He was

717
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: a Chinese American actor who was in a ton of

718
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 1: films from the classic era, including Mad Love in Nive.

719
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: So if you go back to our Mad Love episode,

720
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: uh we we referenced him on that because he plays

721
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: this kind of a background character. But he plays this

722
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: character doctor Wong. Now. Naturally, given the time during which

723
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: he was active, many of his roles also um uh

724
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: conformed to Chinese stereotypes and stereotypes of Chinese Americans at

725
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: the time, but you know, still a rather groundbreaking figure

726
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: and a founding member of the Screen Actors Guild. I

727
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: think I read something about how in the Gremlins movies,

728
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: so he's supposed to play an old man who runs

729
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: this curiosity shop that sells the maguay to um to

730
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: howit Axton or howit Acton or Ashton are whatever, the

731
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: father figure in the first movie, and uh, I think

732
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: what I read was that he uh is supposed to

733
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: be an old man and despite actually being quite old

734
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: when they filmed the movie, they had to put him

735
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: in makeup to make him look older because he just

736
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: looked too youthful when he got old. Yeah, I mean

737
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: howit Axton was no spring chicken, a key Luke really

738
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: took care of himself and he's eating right. He's he's

739
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: living with a Maguay. I mean, that's the character that

740
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Speaker 1: Maguay I would imagine, as long as it doesn't get

741
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: wet and make the transition. Magua really adds earest to

742
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: your life. If you you gotta have a good good well,

743
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well that's this is a big question

744
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: regarding Gizmo, because Gizmo is good. Gizmo is a little

745
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: too curious for his own good. Give this whole. Everything

746
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: that happens in G two could have been avoided. Gizmo

747
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: could have just remained in a drawer for two hours.

748
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: But but still, he's very likable. He has a great demeanor,

749
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: but the instant he reproduces via water splash, all of

750
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: his offspring are chaotic and or nasty. So one wonders

751
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: is like, is this like the sign of a of

752
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: a mature magua that has been able to devote his

753
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: life or its life to um. You know that the

754
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: pursuit of um, of of of order and calmness and

755
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: quiet life of recollection and reflection or uh, is this

756
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: just an anomaly? Now, why is Gizmo unlike the others?

757
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: That's a great question. Yeah, film will not answer that question. No,

758
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: maybe we should talk about how exactly it works in

759
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: case you've never seen either of these movies. So the

760
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: gremlin progression is, giz Mo is the original gremlin. Gizmo is.

761
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: He's a creature called a magua. He's a fuzzy, cute, adorable,

762
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: good natured little critter. He's got, you know, just the

763
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: adorable eyes and and he's great. But if you get

764
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: him wet, things pop off of his back and they

765
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: shoot all over the place, and they turn into also

766
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: still fuzzy, but mean spirited little creatures. And then if

767
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: the fuzzy but mean spirited little creatures eat after midnight,

768
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: then they turn into green, scaly, slimy, murderous creatures. Yeah,

769
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: like a question that might arise as well? What if?

770
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: What what would happen if Gizmo were to eat after midnight?

771
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Gizmo would never eat after midnight.

772
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: Gizmo is a good boy. He would never do that.

773
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know that we would want to explore

774
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: what would happen if in a film. If he did.

775
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: But if he did, would he be a good gremlin?

776
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: It seems like maybe he would. Maybe it would turn

777
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: him into like a beefed up good gremlin, so he

778
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: could be like the scaly, big, brawny gremlin who can

779
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: fight the other scaly gremlins because he's on the side

780
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: of good. I would allow it in a picture, so

781
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: long as he got to change back into cute mahuai

782
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: gizmo at the end. You can't have Gizmo permanently changing

783
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: into a scaly kremlin. That's just not good for business. Okay,

784
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: we're barely into the cast because we've got to pick

785
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: up the pace somehow. Okay, all right. We have a

786
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: character named Marla Bloodstone played by Havilyn Morris Bore nineteen

787
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: fifty nine, an ambitious, chain smoking, scarlet haired workplace vixen

788
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: um a really fun, over the top character. Uh. This

789
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: actor played Caroline in Sixteen Candles. She was also in

790
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: the nineteen eight seven Madonna vehicle Who's that girl? Who

791
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: was that girl? Well? It was Madonna? Uh. And then

792
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: a whole lot of TV work over the years, including

793
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: one episode of Tales from the Dark side. Yeah, it's

794
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: an extremely over the top performance, but in Grimlin's who

795
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: it works perfectly. She plays uh, she plays Zach Galigan's

796
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: boss who is sexually harass him, and she's great in

797
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: in this role, and she Uh. There's one really great

798
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: moment at the end where uh, they're all like putting

799
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: it together a plan to defeat the Gremlins, and they're

800
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: giving tasks to different people and I think they say

801
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: to uh, to Hevilyn Morris, they're just like, you smoke cigarettes,

802
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: and she goes, okay, got it. Now. This already sounds

803
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: like enough human characters for a movie that's mostly about Gremlins.

804
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: But no, the Futterman's are coming to town as well.

805
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: They're from the first movie. I don't remember them at all.

806
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: I had to um, I had to be reminded. But yeah,

807
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: Dick Miller plays Murray Futterman and Jackie Joseph plays Sheilia Futterman,

808
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, they're here to visit our main characters.

809
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: They just kind of seem to show up unannounced, right

810
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: in the midst of all this Grimlin mischief. How many

811
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: movies have we talked about that had Dick Miller in them?

812
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: I can definitely think of two both Korman associated. He

813
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: was in Chopping Mall as the janitor, and he was

814
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: the vacuum salesman in Not of This Earth. He was

815
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: in the Tales from the Crypto movie as well. Um

816
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: uh the Good One, um uh. Demon Night. He was

817
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: in Demon Night. Oh that's right. Yeah. Dick Miller one

818
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: of our favorite character actors. He he livens up everything

819
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: he appears, and even he's one of those actors I

820
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: think you give him a bit part where all he's

821
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: supposed to do is, you know, be a janitor and say, like,

822
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: I gotta clean these floors. I hate my job, and

823
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: he just he breathes life into that grumpy role. Yeah yeah,

824
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty much what he did in Shopping Mall. Right,

825
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but um yeah, in in this he's fun.

826
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: He gets to beat up on some gremlin's. Yeah, it's

827
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: it's Dick Miller is always always great on the screen.

828
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: Oh but Jackie Joseph, who plays his wife in this

829
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: born three. She was a regular on The Doors Today

830
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 1: Show in the early seventies, and she was in nineteen

831
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: sixties The Little Shop of Horrors. All Right, just a

832
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: couple more before we we move out of the humans here.

833
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: But we also have a pair of identical twins, Don

834
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: and Dan and Stanton playing Martin and Lewis. Uh. They

835
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: were both born in nineteen fifty two. Obviously identical twin

836
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: actors who play these It's like a Tweedledumb and Tweedled

837
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: sort of thing, except they're scientists working for Dr Catheter. Uh.

838
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: These guys were never in a ton of stuff, but

839
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: they have a memorable scene in Terminator two. Oh. They

840
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: played the cop who gets I spiked by the T

841
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: one thousand and the mental institution. Remember that he one thousand.

842
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: I guess he morphs up out of the floor and

843
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: becomes one of them and then spikes the other one. Yeah,

844
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: that's a scene where I never looked into it. Always

845
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: thought it was just special effects magic. Turns out it

846
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: was twin magic. Hiring twins probably cheaper than than doing

847
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: special effects. Yeah. Oh, now this one's borderline cameo or

848
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: small part. But Julius Sweeney plays Peggy, the receptionists for

849
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: Dr Catheter. Born nineteen fifty nine, American actoring comedian, probably

850
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: best known for her stint on Saturday Night Live. From

851
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: the joke being that Dr catheter's receiving all these diseases

852
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: in the male and she's sitting there at the reception

853
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: desk like constantly sneezing and coughing, and at one point

854
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: he's like, may I have the tissue? Yes? All right?

855
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: So there are more humans. We may reference more humans,

856
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: but those are some of the main ones. Real quick

857
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: voice acting for for Gremlins and Maguai. Gizmo is voiced

858
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: by Howie Mandel. Okay, Howie Mandel born. This may be

859
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: Howie Mandel's finest work. And it's it's it's perfect, Like

860
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: the voice is just perfect. There's you know, Gizmo doesn't

861
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: say much, but what he does say totally resonates and

862
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: feels cute. Um Mandel, of course, the Kadian Canadian American

863
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: actor and comedian. He played a sea monkey Dad on

864
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: The Amazing Life Live Sea Monkeys from and with the creator,

865
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: producer and lead voice actor on the cartoon Bobby's World

866
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: from Now. One thing this movie has that the previous

867
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: movie does not have. There are a lot of things

868
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: like that, but one really notable one is a talking

869
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: full grim lefied emlin. Yeah, a gremlin that injects itself

870
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: with brain serum, like super smart serum that's you know,

871
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: very clearly labeled from the the the genetic splicing lab

872
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: that dr catheter handles. And yeah, once he once this,

873
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: this serum takes effect. Well, now he can talk. He's

874
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: very intellectual. And of course he wears like a tweet jacket,

875
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: puts some some spectacles and smokes a pipe. And his voice,

876
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: as far as I could tell, is supposed to be

877
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: a posh Australian accent. I was a little confused there. Yeah,

878
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of hard to nail down, but it is.

879
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: He was voiced by Tony Randall, who lived through two

880
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: thousand and four, legendary American actor, probably best known for

881
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: his role as Felix Younger in the television adaptation of

882
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: the play The Odd Couple by Neil Simon. But this

883
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: is a guy that acted in film on TV on Broadway. Uh,

884
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: and here he is in G two. Now you'd be

885
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: shocked if Frank Welker didn't show up. Yeah, Frank Welker

886
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: of course shows up. He's the voice of Moahawk, Mohawk Grim.

887
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which Grimlin. This was the grim one

888
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: that kind of looks like the Grim one, the bad,

889
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: super bad grim one from the first movie. But I

890
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: don't remember what happens to this one. If he's the one,

891
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: is this the one that winds up in the paper

892
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: Spider Oh? I was thinking maybe this is the Spider one,

893
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: but maybe he's the shred Er one. I don't know,

894
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: it could be it becomes Yeah, it's easy to lose

895
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: track of the pre mutation gremlins, and not all the

896
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: grim Wins mute. There's one that just starts smoking a

897
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: cigar and that's his thing for the rest of the picture.

898
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: There's another one that gets his face burnt by acid.

899
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: Acid that's clearly labeled do not throw in face. One

900
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: of the other grim ones throws the acid in his face,

901
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: and then he grabs the Phantom of the Art Opera

902
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: mask and starts running around as the Phantom of the Opera.

903
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: He plays the organ. So not an actual um you know,

904
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: genetic mutation. But the grim Ones in this movie are

905
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: quick to latch onto an identity. Alright, So there are

906
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: a lot of cameos. Don't know, do you want to

907
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: mention any of these these cameos that you were particularly

908
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: taken with? Joint us way and see if they come

909
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: up organically. Let's see. Oh well, I did have a

910
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: note on Henry Gibson, which I thought was a funny choice. Yeah. Yeah,

911
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Henry Gibson pops up as an employee who's fired for

912
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: smoking via like um security camera. Yeah. I think this

913
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: is to show off the tower where the movie takes place,

914
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: their surveillance and Henry Gibson is taking a smoke break

915
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: and they like zoom in on his face and they're like,

916
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: employee number five seven, five whatever, you are fired for

917
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: taking a break. And this is Henry Gibson, who did

918
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: many things. Most notable to me is that he appears

919
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: in Robert Altman's excellent ambient drama Nashville from playing Haven

920
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: Hamilton's sort of the old guard of the Nashville country

921
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: music machine, wearing a newdy suit. There's a great scene

922
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: where he's recording a patriotic song about America for the

923
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: bi centennial that has the chorus, we must be doing

924
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: something right to last two hundred years. Oh yeah, you know,

925
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: I've never actually seen Nashville. Um, I'm familiar with it

926
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: for it's you know, it's a legendary picture. For it's

927
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: it's music and it's approached to music and all but

928
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: great cast. I probably knew Henry Gibson best from Joe

929
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: Dante's filmed Bourbs, in which he's one of Tom Hanks's

930
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: many weird neighbors, which also include one of the other

931
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: weird neighbors in that film is Brother Theodore. M What

932
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: was the movie we saw with Brother Theodore? It was

933
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: like Preaching on the Street or something. That was the

934
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: film starring Warhawk Tanzania. Oh yes, the speech about how

935
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: God is dead and the rats are screaming. Yes, yes, uh,

936
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: Devil's Devil's Express. Yeah, yeah, for nineteen seventy six starring

937
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: Warhawk Tanzania. You know, just your average New York martial

938
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: arts picture about a demon from across the ocean that

939
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: takes up in the New York City subway system. Okay,

940
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: do we have to throw in the towel on cameos though,

941
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: because we did mentioning a lot. Yeah, there are a

942
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: lot of great ones. If they come up later in

943
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: the discussion organically, I'll reference them. Otherwise, right in with

944
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: your favorite and maybe we can talk about it on

945
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: listener mail. Okay, So as far as plot breakdown goes,

946
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Grimlins too, is actually uh somewhat light

947
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: on plot, which is to say, the action of the

948
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: film is not tightly logical. It is more a movie

949
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: about creating situations or premises and then exploiting those for

950
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: just lots of random bits of spectacle and gags. It's

951
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: kind of a variety show. So what are those premises? Well,

952
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: I'd say mainly it is a parody of modern city

953
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: life as seen in nine, especially business culture, technology, media,

954
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: and capitalism. And this is all wrapped up into one

955
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: very convenient setting, the clamp Premier Regency, trade Center and

956
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: retail concourse, a sort of cross between Trump Tower, the

957
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: CNN Center, the Starship Enterprise, and the building from Chopping Mall. Yeah,

958
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: there is kind of a chopping chopping mall, uh shopping

959
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: mall kind of a vibe to it. So it's supposed

960
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: to be this computerized marvel full of high tech upgrades,

961
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: such as automatic revolving doors, which are a miracle of efficiency,

962
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: as a voiceover informs us while we watch people getting

963
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: stuck in them and not like unable to get out.

964
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: In fact, it's a joke recurring throughout the movie that

965
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: nobody can get through the automatic revolving doors and they

966
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: have to just go around to the other doors. Even

967
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: the SWAT team can't figure it out when they show

968
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: up at the end of the picture. Yeah, and also

969
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: every inch of the building is under surveillance with cameras

970
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,959
Speaker 1: and computers that have sensors on everything. But it's also

971
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: the site of many horrible businesses, including the soulless real

972
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: estate development firm where Billy works. At the beginning of

973
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: the movie, he's I think supposed to be some kind

974
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: of illustrator or designer, and this is Daniel Clamp's personal business.

975
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: It's the business that he's going to use to, you know,

976
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: destroy historic landmarks and replace them with god awful monstrosities.

977
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: But the tower also includes television studios for airing things like,

978
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: of course there's news, but there's like a cooking show

979
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: that primarily uses the microwave, and an Elvira style hosted

980
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: horror rerun program as you mentioned earlier, the one that

981
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: Grandpa Fred is doing dressed as Grandpa Monster. But of

982
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: course Grandpa Fred complains that he can't show the classic

983
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: Monster movies he wants to show because Mr Clamp, who

984
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: owns the network, does not like anything in black and

985
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: white only color films. There's a there's a fun that

986
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: a voice over in the background, like the p A

987
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: system announcing how they're going to be showing Casablanca on

988
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: the network now in full beautiful color. Uh. And then

989
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: of course there is the genetics lab run by Christopher

990
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: Lee as Dr Cushing Catheter. I think it's called Splice

991
00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: of Life, and it specializes in unholy, unethical experiment ends

992
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: along with the Stanton Twins. They're uh like when we

993
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: first go in, of course, Christopher Lee is receiving all

994
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: his germs in the mail, and then we just see

995
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff going on there, like walking a

996
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: cow around the room with that like a mind control

997
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: helmet on and it's saying, I like giving milk yeah. Uh.

998
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: And then there is a frozen yogurt restaurant, which seems

999
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: unremarkable to me, but I think this is supposed to

1000
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: be something the filmmakers thought was ridiculous and funny. Okay,

1001
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, you got that whole situation. The gremlins are

1002
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: unleashed upon this situation, and what follows is a lot

1003
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: of disconnected, chaotic set pieces. But in the set up

1004
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: to that plot, let's see, we got a few things

1005
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: that that happened to sort of let us know what's

1006
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: going on. For one of the first things is that

1007
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: Robert Piccardo, as Daniel Clamp's fix Her, visits the Curiosity Shop,

1008
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: the antique store from the first movie, and meets Key

1009
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: Luke and he's like, hey, you know I'm here at

1010
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: your shop. I'm representing Daniel Clamp. He wants you to

1011
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: sell your business so that we can tear it down

1012
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: and replace all of the historic, uh you know, businesses

1013
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: and everything in Chinatown with this monstrosity, this big, ugly

1014
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: building that's going to reach to the clouds. And Key

1015
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: Luke is not interested, but he seems to be a

1016
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: sick old man, and Robert Picardo's just like, we just

1017
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: have to wait him out. He'll die soon. And meanwhile,

1018
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: we see Gizmo watching Rambo on TV. Yeah, because they

1019
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: leave the tell the television said that that Clamp uses

1020
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: to send his message and make his offer, and then

1021
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: they're just like, you can keep the TV. And so

1022
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: Gizmo like reaches out of his little cage and he

1023
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: gets the remote and it's one of the It's the

1024
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: first of many adorable moments of Gizmo. Yeah, he's watching, Uh,

1025
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: Sylvester Stallone being like to to win a war, you've

1026
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: got to become war, and later Gizmo will become war. Uh.

1027
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: And so unfortunately, the the old man eventually dies and

1028
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 1: then we see a very sad, lonely Gizmo and then

1029
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: the building is destroyed. There's like a wrecking ball knocking

1030
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: it up. So as the antique shop is knocked down,

1031
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: Gizmo escapes, only to be captured in the alley by

1032
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: one of the Stanton twins, the weird Ginger twins who

1033
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: work in the genetics lab. M. Then of course we

1034
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: meet Zack Gallaghan and Phoebe Kate's reprising the roles from

1035
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: the first film. As we said as Billy and Kate,

1036
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: they're living in the city now they're working in the

1037
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: Clamp Tower. Uh we get that for I laughed out

1038
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: loud of the first time we saw the revolving door

1039
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: not working, while the with the voiceover is telling us

1040
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: what a miracle of efficiency it is and um. And

1041
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: it turns out so that Zach Gallaghan is working for

1042
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: this real estate development business owned by Daniel Clamp, the

1043
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: one that's demolishing Chinatown. His boss again, his Marla Bloodstone.

1044
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: Make of that what you will. By the way, with

1045
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: the name, I think with Bloodstone, they're like going for

1046
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: can't get blood from a stone with Marla. The the

1047
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: film creators claimed that the name is a complete coin.

1048
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: It ends it was before there was public knowledge of

1049
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: of Marla Maples that they say that that's just yeah,

1050
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: just just serendipity. Yeah. I didn't know anything about the

1051
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Marlon Maples thing. I still don't actually know what all

1052
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: this is about, but but I did see it referenced

1053
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: in that. I think that Terry Gross interview with with

1054
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: Glover where he was like, oh yeah, yeah, we we

1055
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: didn't know about any of that when we made this.

1056
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: It's just coincidence. Well anyway, she's like, you know, smoking

1057
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: cigarettes in the office. There's there's a great part where,

1058
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: uh we see that Billy has been drawing, and I

1059
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: think Robert Piccardo comes through to be like offended that

1060
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: Billy has been drawing, and he's like, how dare you,

1061
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: uh you know, muddy up this office with your with

1062
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: your art. We have paid millions of dollars to have

1063
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: legitimate art displayed on the walls. And he points to

1064
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: some kind of stupid looking abstract painting. Yeah. Yeah. And

1065
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: also he's offended that he has a potted plant. Yes, no,

1066
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: you can't. This is an infestation, which of course is

1067
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: a nice uh, nice allusion to what's coming ahead. You know,

1068
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be a real infestation occurring later in

1069
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: the picture. Yeah, So Billy's working up there. Meanwhile, Kate

1070
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: is working as a tour guide for the Clamp building,

1071
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: which looks like a horrible job. She leads tours around,

1072
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: uh and have to go like haulking copies of the

1073
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: art of the Clamp and it's, uh, you know, it's

1074
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: you feel for Kate. It's she has to wear this

1075
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: really stupid looking hat. So the setup of the film

1076
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: is that the Stanton twins bring Gizmo into the lab

1077
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: of Dr. Cushing Catheter and portrayed by Christopher Lee, and

1078
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: they're studying the fact that he can dance to rock

1079
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: and roll music. Oh, it's such a great secret. I

1080
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: watched this scene twice. It was so it's so cute,

1081
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: it's adorable. Like there's so much going on here because

1082
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: Christopher Lee's character is sort of scowling at the whole affair. Uh,

1083
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Gizmo comes out and begins to dance, and his dance

1084
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: is very cute. It's and it's a special effect showcase

1085
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: because it looks totally believable. Meanwhile, the Stanton twins they're

1086
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,959
Speaker 1: also dancing a little bit in the background, so much fun.

1087
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: You know, they're rocking and sync with each other. Uh

1088
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: in a in an almost uncanny way, I would say,

1089
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: with them, but uh yeah. We also learned about a

1090
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: bunch of their other experiments, like the this lab is

1091
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: just creating kind of DNA juices of various flavors, like

1092
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: here's a DNA juice that will turn a rat into

1093
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: a battery, so you can power in a light bulb

1094
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: by touching it to the rat. And oh no, will

1095
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: I will a gremlin drink that later and become electricity gremlin?

1096
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: I wonder electricity gremlin who becomes Who's more of an

1097
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: important part of this film than you could possibly imagine? Yes, uh,

1098
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: and many other things like that. There's just various animals

1099
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: in cages, assuming we're getting juice out of them to

1100
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: create DNA juice that would turn whatever drinks it into

1101
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: a bat or into vegetables or whatever. Um. So eventually

1102
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: Billy becomes aware that Gizmo is in the building because

1103
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: he hears a delivery man singing Gizmo's distinctive little song.

1104
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: He's like, where did you hear that? And it's you know,

1105
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: down in the lab. So Billy sneaks down to rescue Gizmo.

1106
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: He takes him, he hides him in his office file cabinet,

1107
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: and there's very like comedic high tension scene where Daniel

1108
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: clamp comes for an office visit and he's like, what

1109
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: does your drawer keep popping open? And babbling in a

1110
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: cute little voice. Uh, So Gizmo is almost discovered but not.

1111
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: But Billy cannot take Gizmo home because his boss, Marla Bloodstone,

1112
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: insists that he go out to dinner with her. To

1113
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: one of my favorite set pieces in the whole movie,

1114
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: they go to a Canadian Mountie themed restaurant. This was

1115
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: I found this especially funny because, um, when my family

1116
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: went to Epcot in the last year, so they have

1117
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: a Canadian themed restaurant there, like it's Canadian state restaurant

1118
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: you can go to and they actually have some some

1119
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: some nice vegetarian and vegan options there by the way,

1120
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: But but it is totally. It's like Canadian themed. It's

1121
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: not like the first thing I would think of, like

1122
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: a restaurant experience I want to have. But it was

1123
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: really nice. But there were no Mounties. There were no

1124
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: like all the the the the decorating elements in this

1125
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: scene are just amazing and it pitched perfect, like a

1126
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: giant moose head, those big ridiculous mugs they have, and

1127
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: no offense to Canada. In fact, I'm a pretty big

1128
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: fan of Canada. I don't I don't usually think of

1129
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: them being known for their cuisine. Oh you've got the poutine,

1130
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, yeah, and Molson. They're drinking Moulson. That's right,

1131
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: you want another Moulson? Yeah? Uh but yeah, So the

1132
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: Mountie themed restaurant is great. Billy sends Kate back to

1133
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: pick up Gizmo, but oh, before she can get there,

1134
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: one of the rules gets broken. You gotta break the

1135
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: rules for the movie to get cranking. A maintenance man

1136
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: comes along. He tries to repair a water fountain and

1137
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: it accidentally square some water on Gizmo, So Gizmos starts

1138
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: popping off. Here come the the fuzzy bad guys popping

1139
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 1: out of his back and how were they ever going

1140
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: to eat after midnight and turned into green, slimy, spiky boys.

1141
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: Well they're in clamp tower. There is plenty of food

1142
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: to be found. That's John Aston, by the way, the

1143
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: original um Um Gomez from The Adams Family as the

1144
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: maintenance guy who messes up the water filone. So Phoebe

1145
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: Kate's accidentally brings home one of the wrong Grimlin's, the

1146
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: google eyed Grimlin key and Peel sketch fame. Oh, this

1147
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: Grandmlin is ridiculous, like the I don't know what you

1148
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: call this laugh, It's very similar to the laugh that

1149
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: um Christopher Lloyd's character and who framed Roger Rabbit uses this.

1150
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: This kind of like just unhinged cartoon cackling. Well also,

1151
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: I think one of the weasels in that movie they

1152
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: can't stop laughing. Oh yeah, I think you're right. Yeah,

1153
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's ridiculous and it's NonStop all this. All

1154
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: the gly eyed Grimlin wants to do is eat some food,

1155
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: but mostly throw food and make a mess. Make him

1156
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: he loves to make a mess. So Billy comes home

1157
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: finds the googly eyed Grimlin. He's like, oh, this is

1158
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: not gizmo something has gone horribly wrong, and then the

1159
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: movie is just off to the races. I don't think

1160
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: we can describe scene by scene from here on, but

1161
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: maybe we can just focus on some of the subplots, like, okay,

1162
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: so what do we have to say about? Of course,

1163
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: the gremlins are going to get into Splice of Life,

1164
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: the genetics lab. So one of them drinks the electricity

1165
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: juice and becomes electricity Grimlin. One drinks something I think

1166
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: they were trying to. Oh there's a scene where they're

1167
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: trying to create more durable tomatoes and they show them

1168
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: like bouncing off a wall and they say they say,

1169
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: oh wow, they are durable, but how do they taste?

1170
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: And the guy goes, well, great news. Our contract is

1171
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: with the airline food provider. So it's a joke. It

1172
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how they taste. But a Grimlin drinks that

1173
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: and uh turns into vegetables like you have his like

1174
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: he just kind of has vegetables growing out of him

1175
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: and his body is vegetables. We mentioned Brainy Gremlin, Um

1176
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: Spider Gremlin comes online as well. Back Back Gremlin leaves

1177
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: the batman hole in the wall and then later flies

1178
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: out on the street, attacks Dick Miller uh gets thrown

1179
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: into wet cement and then flies up on top of

1180
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: a church and sits down and becomes a gargoyle. Yes, yeah,

1181
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: like each of these gremlins too, is just amazing. Like

1182
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: back Gremlin is an incredible looking creature. He like has

1183
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: has uh ultimately ends up being like six six limbed

1184
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: gremlin because he has the flight arms and like little

1185
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: uh like little dinosaur arms and then his legs as well. Uh.

1186
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: Just again, fabulous job on all the effects here. Oh

1187
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: there's lady Gremlin. What what are your thoughts on Lady Gremlin?

1188
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: Rob Uh, Lady Gremlin is very much in this in

1189
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: the tradition of like bugs bunny wearing a dress. Um,

1190
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: but is uh potentially problematic? I guess today, I don't

1191
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: think you would necessarily do this today. Uh. In in

1192
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: your Gremlins movie, Um, she of course she ends up surviving.

1193
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: She falls in love with Robert Picardo and they're married.

1194
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: At the end, this movie ends in a marriage between

1195
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: a human and a gremlin. So um, I think that

1196
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: that speaks volumes about the tone of the film. But

1197
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: let's see, there have to be some other mutated again.

1198
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,879
Speaker 1: There are plenty of gremlins who take on their own identity,

1199
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: like their cigar smoking gremlins, then their standing of the

1200
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: opera gremlin. There's also like, um, some just take on

1201
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: fashion choices, like there's a grimlin that wears a witch hat.

1202
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: There's a gremlin that seems to design and produce his

1203
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: own uh anti Gizmo T shirt. You see him hanging

1204
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: in the background, has a picture of Gizmo on it

1205
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: with a circle and a strike through it. I didn't like, Wow,

1206
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: they are mean to Gizmo. Yeah. Yeah, they know who

1207
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: Gizmo is and they hate him. Yeah. There there are

1208
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: a couple of gremlins. One it just has kind of

1209
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: like an overbyte, kind of a donkey face. Yeah. Yeah,

1210
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: he's kind of um yeah, he's not as googly eyed

1211
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: as the googly eyed gremlin, but he's also like a

1212
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: little bit goofy and he just kind of helps out.

1213
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: He's kind of like a stoogie gremlin. Yes, he the

1214
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: cigar smoking gremlin and him are kind of a pair,

1215
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: aren't they. Yeah, yeah, they're kind of they are a pair.

1216
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, they never get mutated. I don't know what

1217
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: they would have mutated into necessarily, Like I remember a

1218
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: scene where they attack the film studio while they're shooting

1219
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: a live episode of the cooking show Microwaving with Marge

1220
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 1: Uh and they havoc they cause is they throw metal

1221
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: utensils into the microwave and then get it going so

1222
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: that it explodes and starts a fire. Yes, yeah, they

1223
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: do they do that. Yes, I don't know. It's just

1224
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: there's just so there's so many questions one could ask

1225
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: about this film, like, for instance, when they realized googly

1226
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: eyed mo Guay is not Gizmo, they just stick him

1227
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 1: in a bag to bring them back to the office

1228
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: with them. What was their plan? It seems like they

1229
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: know what gremlins are all about. They know the dangers

1230
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: of having too many maguay in in a less family

1231
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: friendly film. It seems like they might want to euthanize

1232
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: the maguay right there in the apartment. I think this

1233
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: is a gremlin problem, gremlin control conundrum. I don't think

1234
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: you can. You can, with good conscience kill the fuzzy gremlins,

1235
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: even though they're the bad ones. You have to wait

1236
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: for them to turn into the scaly uh evil gremlins

1237
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: and then you can kill them. Yeah, you gotta give

1238
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 1: them at least a shot at not eating past midnight,

1239
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: though clearly this guy's gonna eat past midnight. He's been

1240
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: eating and throwing food NonStop. And now there's another subplot

1241
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: with with Grandpa Fred the horror host, which is that

1242
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: he has always wanted to be a newscaster, which why,

1243
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you get to do all you get

1244
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: to host a horror show, why would you be like,

1245
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: I really wish instead I was doing like the local news.

1246
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: That that just seems like a trade down in every

1247
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 1: possible way. Yeah, but he gets to live his dreams.

1248
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: He gets to like broadcast live from the depths of

1249
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: the Gremlin nightmare and uh and these are fun segments

1250
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 1: as well. This is definitely in the last half of

1251
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: the film where everything just gets exceedingly weird and crazy.

1252
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,560
Speaker 1: Oh we also we haven't just got the Daniel Clamp subplot.

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Speaker 1: So there's a pot where he gets attacked by a

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Speaker 1: gremlin in his office, which he manages to throw into

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Speaker 1: the paper shredder because oh uh, there's a thing. He

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Speaker 1: goes by quick you might miss it where um his

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Speaker 1: secretary informs him that his mail has arrived and she's

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Speaker 1: shredding it. Now would she like him too, would he

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Speaker 1: like her to shred anything else? Yeah? Yeah, and this

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Speaker 1: of course leads to the shredding of the gremlins. This

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Speaker 1: is kind of our The first film had all the

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Speaker 1: the the horrible deaths for gremlins in the kitchen. This

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Speaker 1: time he gets take place in a business environment, so

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Speaker 1: the shredder absolutely has to eat a grimlin. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: then we also find it well. Eventually, Billy and Clamp

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Speaker 1: meet up and Billy explains what's going on to him,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, they formulate a plan where they're going

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Speaker 1: to get all of the gremlins together in the lobby

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Speaker 1: and then they are going to open up the shutters

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Speaker 1: to shine sunlight in on them and kill them. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna fry the gremlins that way. And Daniel Clamp is

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Speaker 1: going to execute the outdoor portion of this plan by

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Speaker 1: going through his secret escape route, which is like a

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Speaker 1: little like tube that comes up under a tree on

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Speaker 1: the sidewalk. Yeah. And once he gets out, Dick Miller's

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Speaker 1: character is there. He goes into the tube so he

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Speaker 1: can go inside to help and of course fight gremlins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dick Miller is very excited about fighting gremlins. Um the

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Speaker 1: Daniel clamp character also, like, it's interesting that he's he's

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Speaker 1: very quick to be like, oh yeah, I see, I

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Speaker 1: see that Gremlins are a problem. Let me help. And

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Speaker 1: he's actually he's reasonably helpful throughout the picture. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: he he doesn't throw up any roadblocks to fighting the

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Speaker 1: grim Ones for that. For that matter, Christopher Lee's character

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Speaker 1: as well, once he encounters the Grimlin harror, he's not like,

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Speaker 1: oh well, we must Thomas this uh power for our

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Speaker 1: genetic experiments. Now he's freaking out two and I think

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Speaker 1: even squares off animal testing before being killed by electricity Grimlin.

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Speaker 1: We were talking beforehand, this may be the only human

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Speaker 1: character that dies in the whole picture. Well, but also

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Speaker 1: maybe Leonard Malton. It's unclear whether Leonard Malton survives his

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Speaker 1: Grimlin mauling. Yeah, he might have fought him off and

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Speaker 1: go on that that. I love that scene too, because

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Speaker 1: he's he's really digging into Gremlin's one. He's like, this

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01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: film is just trash, and the grim Ones are creeping

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01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: up behind him, of course, and then they jump him

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Speaker 1: and they start trying to strangle him with film footage.

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Speaker 1: So eventually we set up for the finale where Dick

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Speaker 1: Miller sneaks into the building. He hooks up with Billy,

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Speaker 1: Kate and Marla and they end up using a fire

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Speaker 1: hose and Electricity Gremlin to melt all the other gremlins.

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Speaker 1: Such a classic movie monster ending to set a trap

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01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: and use electricity to kill the monsters. Yeah, because they

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01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: were gonna do the sun, but clouds and so this

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01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: is the backup plan. Electricity Gremlin has been stuck for

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: a good portion of the film in call waiting somehow,

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01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't try and think about it, too hard to

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: put him on but they did. They put him on hold,

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: so he's he's held. His electrical potential is in there,

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Speaker 1: and his electrical potential is seemingly almost limitless. I guess

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Speaker 1: when they blast Electricity Gremlin into the flooded hall of

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01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: the flooded chamber that's filled with all the other gremlins

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01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: that are transforming and popping off other gremlins, he has

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Speaker 1: enough electricity to just melt and goify all of them,

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01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: and I guess in the process he's destroyed as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the case. It makes me think, well,

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Speaker 1: how much electricity would with the rat batter you have

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: produced if it had consumed that. I mean, would you

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01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: have made like a rat that would be lethal to

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Speaker 1: entire city blocks? Well, I think they were not putting

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01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: too much of the mutagant in the rat, because the

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Speaker 1: rat retained its its physical form and just produced electricity. Electricity,

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01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 1: Gremlin becomes electricity. Yea. But but still to your point,

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Speaker 1: like maybe Splice of Life was doing good work, Like

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Speaker 1: what if they could have harnessed the power of electricity

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Speaker 1: Grimlin to like solve the energy crisis. That would be

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01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: an interesting ending. Yeah, despite all of their unethical research,

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01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: we do eventually find a limitless source of clean energy

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Speaker 1: uh in in gremlin form. Uh And of course the

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Speaker 1: movie ends with a childlike Daniel clamp uh. He sees

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Speaker 1: the drawing that Billy has created of his hometown, which

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Speaker 1: Billy was chastised for earlier, I think by Robert Picardo saying, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is not real art. Clamp sees this

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Speaker 1: drawing of his hometown and he decides that he must

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Speaker 1: create an artificial, fake small town based on that drawing,

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: and he will call it clamp Corners. And everybody just

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Speaker 1: seems okay with this. This is after I should also

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Speaker 1: mention when the Swat Team comes in at the end

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Speaker 1: after the Gremlins have been killed with electricity. Daniel Clamp

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01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: is like leading the charge and they've let him dress

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Speaker 1: up in full Swat Team gear and he's armed, which

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Speaker 1: was a weird choice. They armed Clamp and unfortunately they

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01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: didn't need it because all the Gremlins were already melted.

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Speaker 1: Oh and then Daffy Duck rifts the end credits. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Porky Pig. Well this is this is after the credits roll.

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Speaker 1: It's like, this is the stinger Um. Porky Pig chose

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01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: up to say that's all folks, and then Daffy Duck

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Speaker 1: shows up and says, no, I'm going to do it,

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah that's the film. Oh I should mention too.

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Speaker 1: This is after the credits role with some more of

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Speaker 1: the score by Jerry Goldsmith. Oh yeah, pretty good score,

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01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, yeah, it's got that nice dad d

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's catchy. It's g two baby. You

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01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: can't beat this movie. This is so good. It is

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01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: indeed a party, a party to which everyone was invited.

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: Like again, there's so many cast members and cameos that

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Speaker 1: we could have profiled here that we just didn't have

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01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: time for There's so many just little especially in the

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Speaker 1: last half of the film. There's just so many little things,

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01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: so many scenes of Grimlin mischief. Uh. There's the training

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Speaker 1: montage where where where Gizmo trains up and then becomes

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01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 1: war becomes this Rambo type figure and slays the Spider

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01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: Grimlin to save both Bloodstone. Um uh and um what's

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: your name? Uh, says Phoebe Kates uh from the Spider Grimlin.

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: Like there's just so many moments, like there's no wasted

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Speaker 1: energy in this film. Not a Christmas movie but uh,

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: but no good any any time of year. Absolutely all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go and close it out there, but we'd

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Speaker 1: love to hear from everyone out there. Perhaps you have

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Speaker 1: opinions and memories and um in theories concerning Gremlins and

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Speaker 1: Grimlins too, right in, we'd love to hear from you. Likewise, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: any of the various cameos and fun cameos that we

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Speaker 1: didn't have time to uh to mention here, bring them

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Speaker 1: up in listener mail. We'll talk about them in the future.

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Speaker 1: Reminder that we're primarily a science podcast. In the Stuff

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Speaker 1: to Blow your mind feed with core episodes on two

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Speaker 1: on Wednesdays, but on Friday's we set aside most serious

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Speaker 1: concerns to just talk about a weird film like this one.

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Speaker 1: the films that we've covered, you can go over to

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Speaker 1: all the films that we've covered, and you can look

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Speaker 1: at them in order that we have covered them. I

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Speaker 1: think we're up. We're up into the mid nineties. Now

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Speaker 1: we're edging closer to a hundred. Oh yeah, we're getting close.

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Speaker 1: Now we got to discuss what's gonna be our hundredth film. Anyway,

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