WEBVTT - #542 - GASHI

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<v Speaker 1>Ao, what's up? What's up this gush? She checked me

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<v Speaker 1>out on the Bootleg CAB podcast right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, before we start the episode, we're gonna remind everybody, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we got one of the biggest radio shows in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>We also just got the good folks in Bakersfield at

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<v Speaker 2>on the radio with my partner James Andre Jefferson Junior

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<v Speaker 2>for the Bootleg CAV Show. So make sure you tune

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, let's get into the interview Bootleg CAV Show

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<v Speaker 2>special guests in here. My guy he's back.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, man man? What's popping? What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy good Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Just landed in LA. I was in New York finishing

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<v Speaker 1>this new album, uh, the Killer Whales of Gotham. I decided,

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<v Speaker 1>the Killer Whales of Gotham. Yeah, we went to we

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<v Speaker 1>went to uh Staten Island. Okay, So you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was a garbage man and uh I met a kid

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<v Speaker 1>who's a garbage man. And I was in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the barber shop and they playing this kid's beats and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, who produced that? Like some garbage man

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<v Speaker 1>from stant Allen. And I was like, yo, give me

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<v Speaker 1>his number. I called him, like, yo, you produce these beasts.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like yeah, his name is Casella, dom Casella and

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<v Speaker 1>some Italian kid. And I was like, yo, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to record. I wanted to record on these beast. He's like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you just slide through over here like Stanton Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like yeah, he's like come through. He's gotta work

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<v Speaker 1>with metha man whatever. Dang. And I was like all right, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's kind of rap album I kind of want

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing right now. We'll be in a rap bag.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started this album, and I've been locked in

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. I haven't really came back here. Plants

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<v Speaker 1>died in.

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<v Speaker 2>The crib like you're in. I mean, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you've been you were in LA forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been in LA for a while. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I have to move out, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like the I love La, man, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hate LA. I love LA. I just think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you eventually have to like move out to let

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<v Speaker 1>people know around you, like you really are on type shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Right you feel. I feel like you kind of also

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<v Speaker 2>like you've been through like so many different like you've

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been thrown into the blender of the music

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<v Speaker 2>industry and kind of spit out the other side. I

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<v Speaker 2>think about, like, you know, obviously the Rock Day shit RCA.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like, you know, I feel like you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of made like this like amazing music throughout your whole career,

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<v Speaker 2>but for whatever reason, like the label would never get

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<v Speaker 2>behind it the way I thought that they should. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think about the nineteen eighty four hour, I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this. You were kind of ahead of your time,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of people, kind of everybody after that

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<v Speaker 2>after that yeah, yeah, we did. If you had sting

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<v Speaker 2>on that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, thank you, bro. You know, I also I

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<v Speaker 1>recently did, like the time while we had that interview

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<v Speaker 1>for nineteen eighty four, I was finishing Brooklyn Cowboy, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a country album. Yeah, that was twenty twenty, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, uh, we ain't doing no country album

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<v Speaker 1>and I ended up getting in a fight with the label.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were already working on it before it was

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, because that was one thing I saw you do,

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<v Speaker 2>the country thing, and I was like, well that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of random.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. I started the country album twenty nineteen, finished

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<v Speaker 1>it in twenty twenty, delivered it. They didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>put it out. They said country is not the move.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just not it, and then four years later it

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<v Speaker 1>became the hottest shit. Yeah everybody. But I thought to

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<v Speaker 1>get that album because I wanted to own it. So

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as I was off RCA, started my own

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<v Speaker 1>label on February twenty third, which is you know, off

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<v Speaker 1>RCA O RCA is ORCA. That's how my label started,

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<v Speaker 1>off RCA, and I just felt yeah, off rc Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I kind of felt like, you know, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of felt like I was a killer whale in SeaWorld.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, labels is the sea World. So I said, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck sea World. You know, started my whole shit, got

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<v Speaker 1>my own chain. I ain't wait for nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a good good reper or a good uh

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you man. So yeah, just you know I've been

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<v Speaker 1>You're right though, I've been put in all this and

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<v Speaker 1>I do all types of music. I've always done it

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<v Speaker 1>since the beginning of my career. But you know, rap

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<v Speaker 1>and hip hop is like what got me started. If

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to every single album I've ever put out,

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<v Speaker 1>you always hear a hip hop or rap element, and

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<v Speaker 1>all the albums, you know, because the culture, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of the songs that I was

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<v Speaker 1>sampled then rap are not. It's not hip hop or

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<v Speaker 1>rap music that sample is. They sample jazz, You sample

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<v Speaker 1>pop music, you know, So regardless, like the culture and

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<v Speaker 1>rap always is always involved in every genre.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you also were the first one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first artists I remember like, uh really kind of people

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<v Speaker 2>finding on Spotify. Yeah yeah, when yeah, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was when Tuma was running things like early rap Caviar,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I remember you like a lot of people like like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's I think that might be. I think i'd heard

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<v Speaker 2>of you, but I think I really like got hit

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<v Speaker 2>to the music just because you were on I forget

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<v Speaker 2>what playlist it was, but you were.

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<v Speaker 1>Like caveat facetop hits. I mean when those playlists mattered,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Now it's just like whatever, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like the playlist nowadays are like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, man. You know, I always say that the

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<v Speaker 2>blog era was the ship back in the day because

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<v Speaker 2>there were gatekeepers, but at least they had a good taste.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That's what I'm saying. You know, it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Man just ran into this dude, Mecca, my boy. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Mecca. Man just ran into him. I did

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<v Speaker 1>an interview. They got this new thing called Create Diggins.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was Mecca and Shake from Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So shout out to Shake. Shout out to Mecca. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. You just said it like they had taste. Nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like people buying slots and stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Or it's just like numbers. It's like where's what's the algorithm?

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's like, okay, how much of this is

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<v Speaker 2>like because everybody who like at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you're on a major label for the most

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<v Speaker 2>part and you're like a major priority, there is like

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<v Speaker 2>some level of like inflating the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean all the numbers is fake. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I don't want to be up here

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<v Speaker 1>sounding like rustling shit, but like, you know, the reality

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of the ship is fake. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the ship's bootleg. And you know it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't see it. You like search the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>on your laptop, you see, Like why is like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million people listening to this artist in Bangladesh? Like why

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<v Speaker 1>are they so popping in and the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 2>Or in fucking like you know, Estonia, Russia something crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't say now Russia is lit because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we sold fifteen thousand tickets in Russia, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? So you know Russia is really streaming.

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<v Speaker 2>Year was this I don't even remember when the conflict

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just try to figure that out now.

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<v Speaker 1>It was back in the day now, But yeah, my

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<v Speaker 1>manager did get taken taken and pushed the side they

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<v Speaker 1>had because this passport had a rip in and so

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<v Speaker 1>he had to wait for us to be finished with

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Yeah, it was kind of stressful over there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, fan base in Russia, Germany, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I did Germany, I was opening up for Playbook Cardi.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on tour Cardi and those kids. They just

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<v Speaker 1>love the underground ship. They don't really care about like

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<v Speaker 1>the number one song and this and that, Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>not really listening to the stuff Americans are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>over there. They like like Suicide Boys, they like like

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<v Speaker 1>Little Peep and shit like that. You know, bones so bones. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy too because like a lot of fans, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they've been programmed to, like, you know, come

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<v Speaker 2>up with an opinion on an artist or a song

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<v Speaker 2>based on what their profile and Spotify looks like like

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<v Speaker 2>if you open up if you opened up some Spotify

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<v Speaker 2>profile and they only have like I don't know, ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand monthly listeners like this shit, ain't it? Like Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's a thing. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the problem instead of finding artists, and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Problem is people want people are listening with their eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, and not theirs. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>sad because you know, you see the situation we in now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like music has become so accessible people don't respect it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's terrible. Back in our day, I mean talking

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<v Speaker 1>about me and we were just say, it's probably thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty four, Like same shit. Yeah, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you waited online, you grabbed a CD, you opened

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<v Speaker 1>it up, you read the lyrics, you cared about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you cared about what the artist had to say, the

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<v Speaker 1>package and everything, and it made you feel something like

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<v Speaker 1>when you held the CD, like this hard work. I

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<v Speaker 1>got this shit, you know what I mean. But now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like shit comes out at twelve. You just go

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<v Speaker 1>skim through it and then they fucking judge you based

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<v Speaker 1>on one listen, they skim right through it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll do like like some of these streams just

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<v Speaker 2>so cringey.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>D I saw and you know, I got love for

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<v Speaker 2>the Nelk Voys, but I saw Kyle from NELK and

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<v Speaker 2>Aiden Ross trying to talk about the Drake Kendrick Beefe

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like watching two blind people talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it hating. It was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what Tyler the creators say recently, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>some people don't deserve a mic or like some people

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<v Speaker 1>should not be able.

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<v Speaker 2>To, especially when it comes to like certain shit. It's like, yo, man,

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<v Speaker 2>like y'all talk about I don't know what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>they talk about, but you know, just like leave the

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<v Speaker 2>rapture alone. But now it's interesting, like it's definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>thing because back then, like even if the album sucked,

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<v Speaker 2>you spent your hard earned money on it, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do your damnest to find a song that you like.

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<v Speaker 1>You like, like one song on there was like good enough,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, well, look at least I got.

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<v Speaker 1>At least I got this joint that I can play

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it's like like you said, people once they

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<v Speaker 2>skimmed through it. If you know it's it's damn near.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fucked up. Man. You know, my father used to

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<v Speaker 1>work at Warner as a garbage man, and they used

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<v Speaker 1>to throw the CDs out months before it came out.

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<v Speaker 1>The demos used to bring them home, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>just listen to them as a kid, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>pick the singles, you know, like with the ones I liked,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just like grab a pen and like circle

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<v Speaker 1>the ones I liked on a CD and they always

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being the singles on the radio too, which

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<v Speaker 1>is funny. So I like, somehow I ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>my own like immigrant and who didn't speak English, but

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<v Speaker 1>just love music, you know, love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about like for you, you know, just what was

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<v Speaker 2>the motivation to you know, obviously come off of doing

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<v Speaker 2>a country album country so big, what was the motivation

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<v Speaker 2>to get back to the grimy rap shit? Because this

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<v Speaker 2>is really like your first like I would say, like

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of this pocket and hip hop like project.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I've always wrapped right, but never this

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<v Speaker 1>good right because.

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<v Speaker 2>Which was by choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my father got sick and it kind of fucked

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<v Speaker 1>me up and I had to go back home, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was just like I've been through.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a hard four years in my life and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just like kind of forgot what

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<v Speaker 1>reality was being in La right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, LA's dude. If you could put in that industry blender,

0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.200
<v Speaker 2>you end up in all these events. Yeah, just around

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<v Speaker 2>all these like super like finicky people who are only

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<v Speaker 2>around you because of what they think you could do

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<v Speaker 2>for them or.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, I mean I went to New York. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I just got a whole family

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, and uh, shit got real, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, in my life and the weather change,

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<v Speaker 1>shit got real. I needed to feel something again, so

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<v Speaker 1>I started to pick up the shit that made me

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love with it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I just love the shit. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I had my homie who from high school, my

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<v Speaker 1>boy a Jamal. She go by Jimmy Banks. He's one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite rappers. And I put him on the

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<v Speaker 1>album and I was like, you know what, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for me to give back to the people that I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of grew up with. And I put him on

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<v Speaker 1>the album with me, and it was just like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like that. It was like Jordan Kobe, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I felt in school. We would kill that shit

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<v Speaker 1>every lunch room. That was my homie. So I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wanted to go back to why I started the shit,

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<v Speaker 1>because for a while, it just felt like music was

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<v Speaker 1>just sad and I hated these rappers so much. They're

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<v Speaker 1>so corny and they're lame, and in real life I

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<v Speaker 1>would never want to beat them, you know, And rap

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<v Speaker 1>was something that's so special and it got whack, it

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<v Speaker 1>got watered down.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like the era in which your entry

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<v Speaker 2>point in terms of like the mainstream of hip hop

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<v Speaker 2>did it kind of because you kind of came in

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<v Speaker 2>during I would say the Dark Ages. I always say

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<v Speaker 2>I did it kind of like just like like like

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<v Speaker 2>because when you when you're coveted and you're doing what

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<v Speaker 2>you do and you have the talent that you have,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've kind of seen like a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting braced to where maybe you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>were you were with it at the you know, ground level,

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<v Speaker 2>and but then you see guys like uh, not even

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<v Speaker 2>to say names, just the SoundCloud era, just people were

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<v Speaker 2>getting signed off of antics and not music, and you

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<v Speaker 2>were like a true artist. So like I can only

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<v Speaker 2>imagine like coming in at that time and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>compete with funck shit for real. I mean it had

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<v Speaker 2>to be like it had to be like tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was tough, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just like I was dealing with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of weird shit too, Like at the time, like

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<v Speaker 1>I found, you know, I linked up with post Malone,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I was dealing with his shit, like where

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<v Speaker 1>we got into a beef because I dressed him up

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<v Speaker 1>for his first videos. His first video ever was my video,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And it got weird because

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of jumped into my management, Austin Rosen, who

0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.880
<v Speaker 1>brought me into the music business. He's like the biggest

0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.040
<v Speaker 1>dude in music now and he's the one who discovered me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was homeless when he discovered me, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like I had nothing, and then you got

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<v Speaker 1>this kid post Malone who just comes into the picture

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<v Speaker 1>and it felt like like like a soul swap. It

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<v Speaker 1>was weird because like he wasn't really doing the sound

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<v Speaker 1>we was doing and rapping and doing all that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it felt like a soul swap. It was like weird.

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<v Speaker 1>We kind of looked the same and it was so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>He like took the management. He took my management because

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<v Speaker 1>at the time it was just Dray London, yeah, who

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<v Speaker 1>was busting his ass to make the straight was killing

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<v Speaker 1>it for sure, yeah at the time. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>like grabbed my management and then he went and grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>my producer Lewis Bell, and they took the template and

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<v Speaker 1>just started doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So this had to have been because he was working

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<v Speaker 2>with the first and Charlie Hansen pretty rely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was before Charlie Hansen was Charlie Hansome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean those kids were and.

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<v Speaker 2>They had they had they had like three records on

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<v Speaker 2>sound three or four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, but that was like he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>what iverson and all that, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one more, But.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't doing like, he wasn't doing the ship that

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing, you know what I mean. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it got to a point where it was just negative.

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<v Speaker 1>I was being negative on that ship. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of like it was just a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of static between us, you know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to figure the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it one sided though, because was there what

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<v Speaker 2>did he didn't I'm sure he didn't have static towards you.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He did, Okay, black ball, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>You go around back balling me. He took fucking he

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<v Speaker 1>took my agent. He done. He did everything to like

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<v Speaker 1>really try to go out of his way. Him and

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<v Speaker 1>his team, they did everything they could realize. Yeah, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>like I deal with that ship till this day. I

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that ship, you know what I mean? And whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw each other at the award show, Jelly Roll

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<v Speaker 1>came up to me and said, what up? Because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a real one and he was sitting right next to me.

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<v Speaker 1>They had his both front row with at the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wouldn't looked at me. Dog, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. You know what time? It is like if

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<v Speaker 1>he was a real one, he knew he would be like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>what up? Like chop it up?

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<v Speaker 2>But you guys haven't had any combos, no, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>He just he's a certified weirdough you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just like I don't give a fuck about

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<v Speaker 1>that ship. The day I said the day because like

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<v Speaker 1>there was a story about him. His plane couldn't land

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<v Speaker 1>and he was about to like fucking die or some shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, damn, Like I prayed for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I called my mother because my mom was a Muslim woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told her to say prayer for him because

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<v Speaker 1>I like, really, I would never want any bad shit

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<v Speaker 1>to happen anyone. I don't move that way. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a child of light, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I found the plane, landed, and like I

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<v Speaker 1>said to myself, like, yo, bro, like I never want

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the ship again. I'm a dead this shit, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I never want to deal with that shit. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the same month I got my record deal. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the same month to Rock Nation and RCA and then

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<v Speaker 1>I signed for millions of dollars and my life changed

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<v Speaker 1>because I debdit that situation. I felt like I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me move in this new direction, changed my sound up,

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<v Speaker 1>changed everything. But every time I changed my sound up,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be same ship. And then I'd be like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I do the fucking this. He does do this? To

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Do this?

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't do eighties though, did he?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the eighties ship? Did the country ship? I know?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you did the eighties thing? And that I

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<v Speaker 2>remember right after Torri did it and Toy did a

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<v Speaker 2>great job there.

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<v Speaker 1>And me and Tory got into it too because he

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<v Speaker 1>was using my clips that's promo and I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you using my clips? And he came at

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<v Speaker 1>me in my DM and I was like, bro, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to start. No.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of them, both of your All's albums were fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred percent. I like what you're Your.

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<v Speaker 2>Album was, Man, I remember me and my artist Alexis

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, we love that album.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why that's my favorite body of work that you

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<v Speaker 2>put out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I appreciate it, like, man, thank you. I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't get no push on that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's crazy about that album is like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I love the Tory album, but it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like it was made. It was like someone making an

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<v Speaker 2>eighties album in twenty twenty five, yeah, or twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twenty twenty whenever it was twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty your album. It felt like if you've got into

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<v Speaker 2>a time machine and you just press play on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded like the fucking eighties it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why I tried to do with Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy too, that country album. You know. It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is is like when you're making a body of work,

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<v Speaker 1>like you need to live that shit, right, you understand.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why when you're like, yo, you haven't been that

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<v Speaker 1>lay in a while, it's because yeah, I dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>family shit. But at the same time, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>go to stant Island, right, I had to live in

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<v Speaker 1>stand Island. I had to go to the gym and

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<v Speaker 1>Stanton Island. I have to like do the stand Island

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<v Speaker 1>shit to be in New York, to be like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what Wu Tang was going through, like to

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<v Speaker 1>make this, because it's like I need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>full experience to make a whole project like that. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, during the country shit, you were running around probably Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>No fuck that, I ain't do that. No, I ain't

0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.639
<v Speaker 1>do that. That's what he That's what they did. They

0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:16.040
<v Speaker 1>went to fucking Nashville and got every feature in fucking Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>To make yourself look good. I went to fucking muscle

0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.240
<v Speaker 1>shows Alabama. If you guys don't know muscle shows Alabama.

0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Watched the documentary The Rolling Stones, Aretha Franklin, all the greats,

0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.679
<v Speaker 1>every single hit we ever loved was recorded in this

0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:35.520
<v Speaker 1>place called muscle shows. And I fucking did that shit. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy that I went there and I recorded

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Cowboy muscle Shows, and I drove straight to Brooklyn

0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:43.400
<v Speaker 1>from that and made Brooklyn Cowboy. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>The hats are so dope. Put the Yankee logo on

0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the fucking cowboy hat and it sold so much, so

0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 1>many hats, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're like I think I feel like, you know,

0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.240
<v Speaker 2>you got too many records, Like I think of like safety,

0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.320
<v Speaker 2>like safeties. I got a fucking joint.

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<v Speaker 1>Could how did not go to radio with that with

0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Chris Brown on that? You know what I'm saying, It

0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.840
<v Speaker 1>is what it is. Safety creep on me changed my life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got like twelve gold records.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot, dude.

0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I never had a hit though I got twelve

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:15.680
<v Speaker 1>gold records.

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<v Speaker 2>To I mean, even like my year, I feel like

0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:18.639
<v Speaker 2>should have been like a big scene. I mean, was

0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.480
<v Speaker 2>it a big single sink record for you? I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>It got paid. You know what I'm saying. My year

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird because I always have this luck where like

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<v Speaker 1>my music hits the sports right.

0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, about to say, I remember seeing it on the sports.

0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So when Toronto won, they played my year. They

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<v Speaker 1>ain't play no drag record, they played my ship. When

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Yankee started their season, they played my year. So my

0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.960
<v Speaker 1>year was played. It's been something they play all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's like it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Mariah Carey of New Year's with that shit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like really cool because they play it every New Year's.

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<v Speaker 1>I see the streams jump up, you know. And recently

0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I did a song with Whiskey Leaf called Better, and

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<v Speaker 1>every game the Knicks used to hype before the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm at when I said there at the games,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, damn, this is really my song and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing it independently.

0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, have you got to hang out with Gorilla

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Nems out there in New York yet?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Look, you mentioned the Knicks. I'm je like you

0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.840
<v Speaker 2>guys got I feel like you guys are like you

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<v Speaker 2>and Ems hanging out in Coney Island. That's my guy.

0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.840
<v Speaker 2>He's the most hilarious motherfucker alive. And he's also like

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 2>just an amazing artist, Like really, but he's he's fucking hilarious.

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've seen him a few times.

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Man, he's a rapper.

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<v Speaker 1>We never really have a conversation, but like, I respect

0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 1>what he does. I remember where I was. I was

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.920
<v Speaker 1>in like Texas or some shit. I ran to Paul

0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Rosenberg and he was telling me about Oh.

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because Rosenberg signed MS took Aliath.

0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was telling me. I mean, I love it, man,

0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I love the fact that like

0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.359
<v Speaker 1>he does him, he's in his own world. And I

0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know too much, but from what I heard where

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I see the freestyles and stuff, you got bars, he's

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<v Speaker 1>super dope.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is I guess? You know with this album?

0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Would you say sonically it's very much like nineties?

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's nineties, but it's still new. I got some

0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I got newer ship too on there, just because I

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.720
<v Speaker 1>need the streams. Yeah, Like I got a song called

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Rings okay with Gez on there because it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get And he was out in New York too for

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 2>he Yeah, I think he just left. Yeah he was

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<v Speaker 2>out there for like.

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<v Speaker 1>At least a year.

0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he got another apartment Okay, I saw he moved

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 2>down in his apartments. I don't know if he got

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<v Speaker 2>a new one.

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<v Speaker 1>He lives out here too. Yeah. Rings kind of different

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.560
<v Speaker 1>than I got a song called London with Gigs on there.

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>That's not New York. It's just but I need these

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:42.640
<v Speaker 1>records for people that don't listen to Griselda all the time,

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:44.120
<v Speaker 1>don't listen to Alchemists.

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, and then you have like a worldly audience too.

0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I'm saying. All the European show,

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>all my European shows sold out, you know what I mean.

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Like that's what that's where the money's at. So I

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:54.960
<v Speaker 1>got to still feed them that ship that they liked

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 1>in my years and all that. But majority of the album,

0:21:57.680 --> 0:21:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it's all like I produce the majority of the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you made the beats too, Yeah, it's just all

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 1>like simple samples. It just loops me wrapping on them.

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Nope, not a lot of drums.

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Not not a lot of drums, no hooks either.

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:09.720
<v Speaker 2>That's the new ship.

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just me rapping.

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Man, It's just like and then I guess it's not

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<v Speaker 2>that new now because then this has been cracking for

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<v Speaker 2>so long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then it's me introducing my favorite rapper too,

0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>They got Banks.

0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the fucking I think Jimmy I put Jimmy Banks.

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:27.959
<v Speaker 1>I think Jimmy Banks is better than any rapp in

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>New York right now period. Dope. I put him against

0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 1>anybody like like it's it's it's a no brainer, like

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.520
<v Speaker 1>this man crazy? Yeah, Yeah, what.

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Is uh for you?

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you obviously.

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You come from immigrant parents.

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You are somebody who you know was not born in

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.239
<v Speaker 2>the United States but change your life by moving here.

0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 2>What do you What is your take on what's going

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:54.359
<v Speaker 2>on with all this mass deportation.

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Ship going on us? Heartless and crazy. I don't fuck

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 1>with it. I think it's terrible. I saw this video, man,

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.920
<v Speaker 1>That shit brought me to tears. There was this girl

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 1>screaming at her mom from a gate, telling her she's

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna get her out and bring her back. And I mean, bro,

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>like it breaks my heart. And it's because it hits home.

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. I was born in Libya, bro, and we

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 1>were trying to get into America for so fucking long, bro,

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>And every time we hit a country where they didn't

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>accept us as refugees, we would be sent back. So

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like a video game and you'd have to start

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>all over again.

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Should they tend you back to Libya?

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:32.879
<v Speaker 2>And this is Goodafi's Libya? Yeah Yeah.

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, my parents

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>never decided to go to America. I would probably be

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>a Muslim man married with kids right now in Libya.

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Like my life would never be signing to jay z

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.879
<v Speaker 1>RCA putting out these records, like right, I grew up

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.639
<v Speaker 1>on Arabic music, right, all my melodies are Arabic, you

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And I'm Albani and I'm not

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>even right right, right, right, right, this is crazy, Like,

0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't believe it. I just feel like

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you got to believe in God, man, like I believe

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.879
<v Speaker 1>in God so much, because it's like I had to

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>be here, like I was a mistake. My mother didn't

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:08.159
<v Speaker 1>even know she was gonna have me, you know what

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. She found out they issued my dad was like, nah,

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, we can't have them, and she ended up

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>having me on the kitchen floor in Libya in like

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>a big refugee building, you know what I'm saying. And

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>then from there I just feel like I changed that life,

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like this it was meant

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to be, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's just sad because there's just so

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>much like there's like zero nuance or context. It feels

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.439
<v Speaker 2>like put into any of these people getting like swept

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 2>off the street outside of you know, maybe they're saying

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 2>things about a foreign country that we're not allowed to

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 2>say anymore. I guess, but it's kind of messed up

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 2>twild times we're living.

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to have my best friend come meet

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>me to go to Coachella with me from Germany and

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.439
<v Speaker 1>they have a list like they're not letting people in

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 1>from Germany. Oh shit, not letting people in from certain countries.

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's just weird. I don't understand it.

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 2>That's get into Did you go to Coachella this past weekend? Nah,

0:24:58.960 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you're going this weekend.

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to because I was supposed to be

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a few things. Yeah, you know, shout out to my publicist,

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, Forefront Group. You know, they were supposed to

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 1>get me a bunch of shit.

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>And you've done Coachella, right.

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.919
<v Speaker 1>Uh? No, I I was supposed to do it. I

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't do it, Okay. I kind of just been waiting

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>for me to have my moment, you know what I

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>man to have, like the Jelly Roll moment, the fucking

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 1>moment of like the Doja Cat moment.

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Jelly Roll thing, Like I'm really I've been

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.199
<v Speaker 2>friends with Jelly since like twenty and eleven or twelve

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:37.879
<v Speaker 2>something like that, and uh, you know, I would always

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 2>tell that full like you know, as soon as people

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 2>anyone who meets him loves him, and he's always been

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 2>he's always been the same guy. So it's like like, hey, dude,

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 2>as soon as you fuck it the world meets you,

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 2>it's over, you know what I mean.

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, he's amazing. Yeah, No, he's he he he

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 1>linked up in Nashville.

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be as I just told him, Like I

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, you're gonna the white Snoop Dogg bro.

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you know why, that's a crazy, yo, that's crazy.

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 2>He's the white Snoop And like, like it doesn't even

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 2>matter musically what happens, He's always going to just be,

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 2>like he's gonna be. Just being him is good enough

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 2>for him to be straight for like Snoop Dogg, Like

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 2>he's being able to get bags just for being like

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy, like he just got an American bag.

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 1>You said that, man, that's a bro. You know what

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. It's so dope. It's because his name

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>matches him. Yeah, Snoop Dogg matches Snoop like you put

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the name to the face. It's like the branding is

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>so perfect.

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like his story is so crazy, like if

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 2>you know him, like and just the shit he went

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 2>through and like the drug shit and yeah, yeah shit

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 2>with his daughter. It's just beautiful to see. But yeah,

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 2>like you said, I feel like you've had you've been closed.

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's interesting though, because you are so

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 2>big outside of the US in terms of like Europe,

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Like you're massive, dude, So like, what is your biggest

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 2>A market outside of the States.

0:26:53.200 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Germany Parish? Yeah, got Kosovo, Albania, everything in Europe from London,

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>they're always top listeners, you know.

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure Cosovo Albania has got to be fun

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 2>to go to and go back to the homeland. It's

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 2>like you Action, Bronx and Dualipa. Yeah yeah, I think

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 2>that's the big three. Yeah.

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, shout out to Bronson, man, I love him, that's

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>my guy. I just love my country, you know what

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I love my people. I love my women too,

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Like the alband girls, like some of the most beautiful

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>women you have ever seen in your life, you know, yeah,

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 1>being women. It's like, yeah, it's like I love allband girls.

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're the best.

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Why why did you name it the Killer Whales of Gotham.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I named the album the Killer Whales of Gotham because

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I saw Wales in New York City and I didn't

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>know we had Wales by the Statute of Liberty, right,

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>And my whole new shit is fuck sea World because

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the labels of Sea World, you know. And I felt

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 1>like I was Willie bro I was being contained my

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>whole career, right. I love that. Yeah, And I need

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.239
<v Speaker 1>to find a way to jump over that wall and

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>be free from all this bullshit telling me what to do.

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Is A and R is are artists that never made.

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.400
<v Speaker 2>It, yeah, and they all have their own.

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Ulterior motives exactly so they failed and they want to

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>see you fail, so they feel good about it for sure.

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, fuck this ship, man, I gotta

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>get out of here. But I thought, how dope would

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>it be if there was Killer Whales and Gotham, New York.

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>So I came up with the whole you know, it's

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>a shark invested fucking business man. How sick would it

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>be when the Killers Killer Wales come around and all

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.959
<v Speaker 1>the sharks run away? You know? So the Killer wells Gotham.

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I started a group all my favorite rappers in New

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>York that I grew up with or in the group

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>called the Killer Welles's dope. Yeah, I love that.

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 2>So you're going to do like a are you going

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 2>to do like a whole project eventually?

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean we do a whole project. Like it's

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>about putting people along, you know, huh, you never know,

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, But it's about putting people on.

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, last time we seen that was ASAP for sure, it's.

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Been a while. Yeah, it's I mean Griselda to Yeah, obviously,

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Griselda's a crew label.

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>You know that.

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Everybody has had a lot of success on In terms

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 2>of the main three guys.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I love Griselda, man, I think, I think. I think

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Griselda and Doci made me want to rap again too.

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because Doci's an alien.

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's fucking dope. She's so talented, so talented, she's

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>so dope. Everything about her is just a one. She's

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>dope and her team is incredible.

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 2>When you look back at your albums twenty sixteen with

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<v Speaker 2>Stairs all the way to now, what's your favorite project?

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<v Speaker 1>I think my favorite album is nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great album.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you man. I loved that album a lot. I

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>was very confident on that album. And then I would

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>think the new one, Killa Well is a Gotham is

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>going to end up being my favorite one, even though Brooklyn,

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Cowboy Elevators, all of them are so dope. But like

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>this new one, and it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the most successful one?

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<v Speaker 1>Got you? Yeah? The self titled Yes, because they put

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<v Speaker 1>money behind it. That's the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your biggest records are on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like two hundred million. A lot of every song

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 1>on there is over one hundred million.

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>That what you're I forget what you what you're doing

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>to drop the four from your name?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Twenty eighteen, I signed to him, though, like you

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>need to take the party name G four. She I

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>was the first one to put a four on my name,

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean a lot of artists now

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>they put fours in their name, do they? Yeah? I

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know, dud Joey Franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, shout out to my brother.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Joey Franchise played my new record on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>In Tampa and Wild ninety four one. I do nights there.

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm the night show there.

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah, man, shout out to Joey Man, that's the

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>first dude to ever put me on the fucking.

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 2>The Hertford goat right there, yeah, Connecticut.

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>G Yeah, that's the first dude to put me on

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>on Uh.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>He is a serious sneaker fetish that I feel like, Uh,

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the tariffs are going to fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy because like we used to go around

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>because I went to school in Massachusetts.

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>So where'd you go? You mass right?

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I went to you mask, got left there after a

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>year and I went to a c I met Joey

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and he like put me on his radio show.

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 2>He's doing radio in Boston, yeah too, yeah.

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then we went to Connecticut. He put me

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>on the radio in Connecticut. Good guy. Joey's the real one. Man. Like,

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing for me to say except for show love

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>because he's just a real, real, real solid dude and

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>he's been supporting me since I shout out to Joey franchise.

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Yo, you can you tell me what it was like

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 2>torn with Cardi back then?

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let me tell you, bro, Like the Cardi

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I know now and see now, I don't know how

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 1>recognized I went there, but look, bro, I've toured with

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>this guy named black Bear.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to black Bear, very talented.

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a bitch, And I think it's so crazy

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>because he's the biggest hater ever.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he lost a lot of weight, he got his

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>drug addiction under control from IC.

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't give a fuck. Okay, he's

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>pussy And I think it's so crazy the fact that,

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>like he we killed the show so bad. He made

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like security guards take shits in my green room, used

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the towels and abused me until I had to like

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>say something. He turned the lights off on the show

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>because everybody would like come to see me, and then

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>after the show they would leave. Yeah here, they'd fucking leave.

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>And he hated it, and his management was like, well,

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>we made a mistake having him opened up. We should

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>have gotten somebody that was not as popping. And it

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>was just rude, you know what I'm saying. And he

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 1>would do things that well here was that like I

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know two that was nineteen or something, and so

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>what show we were at Philly turned all the lights

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>off while I was performing on stage. That embarrassed me

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and I ended up falling and hurting my kney really bad.

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Almost told my acl and I decided to walk off

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that tour, and he tried to as team and with

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>like trying to like get me to like be cool

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and just be like, hey, we're sorry and trying to

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>make me a bottle and whatever apologize to me. And

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it was just like, nah, bro, you cross the line.

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying the whole tour. You were

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>doing that.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 2>At the whole tour.

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>You abused me the whole tour. And I was trying

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>to be cool because I was just thankful to be.

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>There, just to be there, yeah, because yeah, twenty nineteen,

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it was a good year for him.

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>And good year for me, you know, and he was

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>just not He was just not a good person, you

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And I'm over it. Obviously. I

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>don't care. I don't even give a fuck about that shit.

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm not going to sit here and

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>be like play the fucking card of being like politically

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>correct or whatever, like just play the card to be

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>a nice guy, like fuck him, you know what I'm saying.

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>But then the opposite is like Playboy CARDI. You got

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>a kid who's like three years younger than me and

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>brings me on tour let's me open up for him

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>in Europe and was the sweetest man in the world.

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Playbook Cardi is the sweetest man in the world. He's

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>so real. It's mad bitches. Like I remember, I was

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>in the other green room at the time. I ain't

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>really have money. It was just me and my DJ

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and he came in with his whole squad rolled the

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>blunt up was like, yo, here's a blunt for you.

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>And then he was he came in with mad bitches

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>and he was she was He's like, which one you like?

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, you know, it's cool, Like

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>we cool. And he's like, y'all I need you to

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>like like pointed at the girls, like y'all need you

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to fuck my man. It's like, god us mad pussy,

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 1>he got us weed, he got us drenks like serving

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>you up. I like that. Carti's like so real, bro,

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Playboo Cardi is like, look, bro, there's a lot of rappers,

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>new rappers that don't live that life like Playboy Cardi

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>lives that life really fly, really cool, really dope, really

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.759
<v Speaker 1>a real man, and he doesn't hate. It's not the

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>bro bro. I never felt no hate even when I

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 1>killed it. I'm telling you right now. CARDI knows. There

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was some nights where people left and he was performing,

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>like nobody. I literally killed that.

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Ship and then people were leaving.

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>He performing, Bro, he would not hate nothing. He would

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>finish the He come up with me, brother, you killed

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that ship, bo, like showed me mad love and and

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what a real artist is. That's why

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>he's where he's at.

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's he's on. You know, his whole thing is

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.399
<v Speaker 2>so crazy. We saw him wrong loud and it.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Was like he's so fire man. So you know, it's

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>like that experience was so dope because now watching him

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>become this huge star, it's like I'm not surprised.

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 2>But he's also like he's a big start. I mean

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he's like four or five weeks straight at

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 2>number one or something. Yeah, but he's also still underground.

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like he's still underground as fuck. Like you know

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, Like he really like his music is

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>still very like acquired types of kids. He's just got

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 2>the kids, bro.

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, he's doing it right though, you know he's

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>doing it right for sure. Yeah, but like, yeah, that

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.240
<v Speaker 1>was a good experience, and I started doing my own tours,

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I just feel like it's been a

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>while since open up for like for a big artist

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to me whatever, and I kind of just been doing

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>my own ship, touring my own shit, and it feels

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>good to just be a hard ticket sales act, you

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. That's what my idea is is

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>like people be like, Yo, why why is it Why

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>is it such a big deal to sell hard tickets?

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>It is because it's hard, Yeah, Like it ain't easy,

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying.

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the difference between like having those numbers

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 2>we talked about earlier, were people listening with their eyes

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>if they're not. If they're listening with their eyes only,

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 2>they ain't coming to fucking buy a ticket to see

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>your ass.

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying is people don't understand, Like, Bro,

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a band called there's a band. It's a fucking

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 1>band that I recently, not recently with whatever. I listened

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to them like years ago, and this fucking band was

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>at like five hundred thousand monthly listeners. But they were

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>selling fucking stadiums and they were selling like arenas, like

0:36:54.760 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 1>doing fucking big rooms and that ship don't mean nothing, bro, Like,

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>if you can sell tickets, that's what it means. Like

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do like the Suicide Boys, like.

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeahming it. You know they're doing they're doing uh

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 2>you know they're doing arenas.

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fuck with them, bro, like them. Shout out to them,

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 1>like you know what I'm saying, and it's just.

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Now movement pooh yah and uh yeah Fat Nicks my dog.

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah, I like Fat Nick. That's only has

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a little peep. I love that show.

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my boy brother. Dont guys, I just saw that. Actually,

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>me and Ot just went to a show.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:29.879
<v Speaker 1>In la At.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh fuck, what's the show in k Town? The Wiltern.

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fuck with them, they dope. Man, shows are important.

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>We're building the ship, building the whole ship. I think

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what we're doing right now. And it just

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>feels good to be out here after sixteen years, you

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Still doing that, still putting projects out,

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>still having the fan base. We sold out Toronto a

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>few days ago. Like, still doing that, still pushing it.

0:37:58.560 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Don't it don't change?

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna do? Like, because I feel like when

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you get into that country space, you're kind of like

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>in a whole new like ecosystem because it is its own.

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I always tell people, like country music is very much

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like own isolated industry away from I don't funk

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 2>with it because, like you know, it's like it's like

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 2>when we think of the music industry with the New

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.439
<v Speaker 2>York in LA, but like all that shit don't matter.

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>You gotta go to fucking Main Street in Nashville.

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>There's all these I don't think I'll ever do country again, okay, period,

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't like to sour taste in your mouth, Yeah,

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't fuck with that, you know what I'm saying.

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the I don't like the fact that

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:40.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody called me a Puerto Rican cowboy and they didn't

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>try to hear me out anything. It felt really racist

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 1>when I was there. When I did go there, I

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>felt very unwelcomed the fact that, like I wasn't like

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the typical white dude, you know what I mean. I

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>don't fuck with how racist A lot of the people,

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>not all, majority of the people in that genre of

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>racist as fuck, and I don't stand with it. I

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 1>don't fuck with it. That shit left such a bad taste.

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't fuck with them. It is what it is.

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck about it. I love my music.

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that I tried it. It was awesome,

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.399
<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't going to pack up and move there

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and try to do all that weirdo shit, like, no way,

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like that was just me doing. I've been doing all

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>different genres my whole career, so but that was the

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>only genre that I did. When I went there, it

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>felt super racist. It felt very unwelcome. And if you

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>think some fucking genres a gatekeepers, just.

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Go over there and you know that's the gatekeeping, and yeah,

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.879
<v Speaker 2>that's a gatekeeper. Country is very much a gatekeeper Colder.

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:37.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it's like some people are cool as fuck.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>There's artists there that I fuck with, like Jelly Row

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and people like that. Those are the Jelly's a rapper,

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So like he gets it,

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>but like a lot of them over there, very very

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>unwelcoming and made me feel like you feel me.

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like if you go there and you're like chosen,

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>they'll put you in with the riders and did that.

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>They're there hand you a number one hit without even

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 2>like you even knowing what happened.

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, I don't fuck with I

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's fake. I don't fuck with it. I think

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>it's bullshit and it is what it is. I respect

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the people there that this show me love. Shout out

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to Shaboozi, shout out to the artists that this showed

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>me love and and fuck with me and said they

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>love my album. But you know all the gatekeepers and

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>all that saying the ship that they were saying about

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 1>me and the ship that I heard. You know what

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just like, I don't fuck with it.

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 2>The country is I can. I feel like it's in

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 2>a cool place now because it's like there is, like

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 2>the Shaboozies, there's there's a lot of like just dope songwriting.

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I said that about country is the songwriting. Yeah, when

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 2>you listen to hip hop and you listen to country,

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, there's actually like still because I feel

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 2>like a lot of hip hop's like the writing of songs.

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but culture wins for sure. What I'm saying like

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>country will never be hip hop no matter what, no, no, no,

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>for sure, it's like hip hop and rap music controls,

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>like controls the world and rules the world, and it's like.

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Sh and Latin music rules the rule.

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like all of that, it's in the same

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, and it's like no country is a

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>here thing, yes but whatever, Like you know what I'm saying,

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just like.

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Yo, but there is Like I just feel like the

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 2>songwriting is like some of these motherfuckers.

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Like this just thought to sound the same, all of

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:13.240
<v Speaker 1>it on the sound.

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of John Morland, the ball dude. He

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 2>looks like Bamban Bigelow.

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 1>He's tough. Probably. Yeah. I just got such a fucking

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 1>weird feeling. I just be skipping that ship now about

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 1>listening to it. I'm actually, you know what I'm saying,

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>doing everything that I might do it. Jack.

0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you do any of those songs on tour?

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I just we did what's the fucking ship?

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Santa Monica? Uh, I don't know. It's like iconic venue.

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Fucking there's so many right there on

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Dohani and Santa Monica. It's like right on the corner.

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a legendary, all the big dudes. I just sold

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that out and performed only the country album, and people

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>love that fucking album. I've had people tell me like, ya,

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you're not a country for sure. Yeah,

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Bro, And you know, a lot of the

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 1>shit went Bro. I did bigger numbers on brook My

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn Cowboy album independently than nineteen eighty four with Arcia Crazy.

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Would you do another time Piece project?

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am. I got a nineteen eighty nine album

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 1>coming out my birthday because everybody thought I eighty four

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>was my birthday. I'm like, nahs, you know what I'm saying.

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 2>But like, I mean, yeah, that's a five year jump

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that you can kind of hear too in terms of

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>like where music was at. Yeah, from like eighty four

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 2>to eighty nine, like that.

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nineteen eighty nine I like that. I like that,

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's like eighty four, it was the best.

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Year ever for music you're saying for everything.

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan got drafted first Apple commercial, Prince Purple, Rain Shade, Diamond, Ninja, Turtles,

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson did it, eighty three popped off from the

0:42:54.760 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 1>eighty four, The biggest George Michael eighty four, forty album

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>by Van Helen, everything that was anything in culture with

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four. It changed our life forever, like nothing

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>will ever be the same after that year. So my

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>parents man got married that year, and I just felt like, yo,

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm gonnaname this shit. I love it, man,

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>But people thought it was my birthday and I'm just like, damn,

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>get off.

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 2>My dick, like like, damn, I'm not that old, That's.

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>What I say. Like you have me at twenty eight

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>years old being like, yo, you nineteen eighty four, Like yeh,

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>that's funny. Yeah all right.

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Look though, when I'm dropping the four album.

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, I ain't got

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>a date. We're rolling out this new song means you

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:36.320
<v Speaker 1>easy for the NBA.

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Playoffs called Rings of course.

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got to send you so you could play

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to Gerald. Yeah, shout out to Jeezy Man.

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it was his mom's birthdays today too.

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Recipes man.

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 2>She was a great lady.

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, rest the piece. I love Gerald Man. He's a

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>real best jeez. He's a dope, dope, dope person, dope artist.

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I proposed to my wife on stage of this show.

0:43:56.440 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>No way, Yeah that's my that's my I love g manh.

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a fucking road. I know that. That's so

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 1>fucking dope. Shout out to j Z Man. That's my

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 1>that's my dog, and he keeps it real, you know

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 2>And who do you think has had a who's more

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 2>of a headache on the road? You were G easy

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to our boy Solomon having to handle

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you guys at a fucking nightclub.

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, G easy, Like that's an easy answer, Like G

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 3>easy ship, you know what I mean, Like this dude

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 3>is just wild, bro, He's like he's like American psycho

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 3>for sure.

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if you catch him on the right night,

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 2>you'd be like, yeah, right.

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Now, he's you know, but yo, shout out to j

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Z Man. He paved the way for artists like Jack

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Harlow and sure, for sure, you know what I'm saying,

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of artists needed like give him his flowers.

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of these a lot of these

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>other dudes would not be here without G Eazy, And I.

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Just, yeah, I feel like he kind of also like, uh,

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 2>you know the thing about G I feel like that

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:53.280
<v Speaker 2>he did that he kind of got that direct to fans.

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Shit going early.

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's hard tickets and you.

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Know, I remember when he was I guess underground what

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 2>you would call it, and he was just doing like

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember the way he would package his merch and

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, I've been seeing G come up since

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 2>shit man.

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean yo, like G took some of the realist

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>artists on tour, had him open up.

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:19.919
<v Speaker 2>For his shows Kailani forty, yg Helo, yg Yo, Gotti Yo.

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 1>He's boozy, He's a Bay legend.

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who's the open for him?

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:25.200
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, Like

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like for some reason, it's like they try to

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>like sleep on him sometimes, Like you know what I mean.

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing with G Man is like it

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 2>felt like everybody was rooting against him because he got

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 2>so big, and they were like, yeah, wait a minute.

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Because if you think about it, like G's probably I

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:42.600
<v Speaker 2>mean like obviously there's two short Andy forty, but in

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>terms of like overall numbers in the last like twenty years,

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 2>like no one's bigger than GZ out of the Bad

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Hell no, in terms of like if you just look

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 2>at the numbers, you know what myself and I is

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>like a pop red bro.

0:45:52.520 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>He has real hits stuff for sure, No Limit, No Limit,

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>all these other songs, the Tumbler girls, like all these songs. Bro,

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>what like, what are we talking about? I just bro,

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like that quote. It's like you can do the

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>same ship he's doing, but they won't hate you because

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>it's you doing it right.

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I just think like a lot of the Bay Area

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 2>taste makers too, were just waiting for that, like they

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 2>were like they always were hating on that full.

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Like well they could suck a dick even though he was.

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Like putting on real he was bringing people on the road.

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Man, anybody that got a problem with jeez, he was

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 1>bringing period.

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he brought the whole Bay on every tour.

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>He shows love man, you know what I mean. It's

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.000
<v Speaker 1>usually like that. People that show too much love, they

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.359
<v Speaker 1>don't get no love back because people being they take

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that ship for granted out to g Man.

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Listen album on the Way new song with.

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 1>G Rings and I got a bunch of other artists

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>ars in this real New York album.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Any other features on the album?

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>We got Yay produced on that which I don't want

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to talk about.

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 2>On Tony West Yeah, oh ship, Yeah he did. You're

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:50.640
<v Speaker 2>able to use the beat like he's clearing it.

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good.

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 2>At this point in time. I feel like, you know,

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 2>it don't matter.

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't give a ship.

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't get he don't give a fuck.

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 1>We got few rappers on there that legendary, you.

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:03.959
<v Speaker 2>Know, Rake one.

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just throwing. I want the ship to come out,

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. We got some dope ship

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>on there. You know, great album, my favorite. If you

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 1>like rap, this is gonna be your favorite album by me.

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 1>And if you if there's pops, if you see something

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that's too crazy in there, like too dancy, just no,

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:23.399
<v Speaker 1>I got to feed my kids, man.

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, was there was the Kanye beat,

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 2>like a Kanye like like sample.

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll play for you all right.

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well listen, bro, I appreciate you pulling up album

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 2>on the way go support. Uh. I know you got

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.359
<v Speaker 2>a new that you got new a few singles out

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 2>right now?

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, ring a song called Pimpals with your boy,

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>right Yeah. I produced that my boy Jimmy Banks. And

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 1>then I got hit with Jimmy Banks again Halos and Draco's.

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 2>And Jimmy Banks is signed to you sign.

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Affiliated to my label. Yeah, I don't want to sign

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>my man, it's like I don't. I don't do that.

0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 2>That's fair.

0:47:57.760 --> 0:47:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sign none of my friends. He's

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 1>he's a he owns a part of company like me.

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>So anybody that's around me, they own a percentage of

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 1>my label with me. So you know what I'm saying.

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.879
<v Speaker 1>That's signing ship. It's old, it's whack. It is what

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:12.839
<v Speaker 1>it is, bro, like you feel me, you sign I

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>signed pop artists. I don't sign my friends. You know

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I could like sign you make

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 1>money with you, and I don't want to deal with you.

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Keep it moving, you know my friends and my friends

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 1>like I want to put people on because a real

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 1>boss would show you how to get it, you know

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And somebody trying to little brow you

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 1>nin's what you want to be dealing with.

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, facts, facts, facts.

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you, man, man.

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you too. Bro. Thank you for having me

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and always showing me love in the beginning. Bro, like

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it feels good to be back here,

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 1>especially like you know, if motherfucker went through some ship,

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And and coming back here,

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.279
<v Speaker 1>coming back to l A. I went to I got

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a Marathon Burger yesterday.

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 2>That sh it's amazing.

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that rest of me. You know, you know,

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the first artist on the East Coast to do a

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.800
<v Speaker 1>song with them. I remember you. I remember.

0:48:58.000 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I think we talked about this, like you met him

0:48:59.920 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 2>with you were like, damn, you're eighteen.

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Nobody know what I mean. I was sleeping in the studio, man,

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 1>like you know, but like that really paying for the future, Yeah,

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:14.799
<v Speaker 1>we well, I didn't the homie paide Johnny shipes. It

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 1>was like nothing. It was. It was just like we

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<v Speaker 1>paid for his time to come to for his flight whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was just so dope he is about re

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<v Speaker 1>releasing that. Nah No, I just like it's like he's

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<v Speaker 1>just dope. Yeah, he's dope. I respect him every time

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<v Speaker 1>I land in la If, I play park, right after

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<v Speaker 1>I play Face the World or seven days a week.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love him. I've always been a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the one who reached out. Nipsey was not even

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<v Speaker 1>that popping when I reached out to him to do

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<v Speaker 1>a song with him, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, you gotta pay for the.

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<v Speaker 2>Flight and he was doing his thing on the blogs,

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<v Speaker 2>but like he was definitely like you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like if if it was the Ship's days, people weren't really.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, they weren't really hip to him. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I love nip way before you know, man, I still

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<v Speaker 1>do still play it every day, and I just think, like, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>like he raps, he sings, he has a real story,

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<v Speaker 1>He's real, he's bro Listen, Like, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ship that you know, a lot of people make bullshit

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<v Speaker 1>up when somebody passes, like they may they make them

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<v Speaker 1>seem like they're more legend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like yeah, but I feel like if

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<v Speaker 2>you knew like nip and you like, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>there's people who will pass away and you'll be like yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like the people who were fucking with

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<v Speaker 2>nip like they.

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<v Speaker 1>A one bro for sure, Bro, a one brother. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't say anything to make me look at that man differently,

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<v Speaker 1>like a one bro Adam.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time Nipsey was ever on my show, it's

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube. It was freestyling on my show and nine damn,

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 2>that's the round time I met him. I was Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like it was two thousand and Superstar Bro

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<v Speaker 2>Soisey Idaho doing radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, he came all with he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was on tour with the game The Lex Twow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Shout out the game too.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, games. Yeah, legend. I love the game super that's

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<v Speaker 2>another black Sam. They got that burger together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I love that uh Man. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Bro, you a legend. Thank you so much

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>for always supporting me of course, man, and always having

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<v Speaker 1>me come back here and anytime. I love these interviews, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think these interviews are the ones that always last

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Gashy new album coming soon, The Killer Wells, Gotham Liberation,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's Go, Let's go. Boom