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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to him tonight, you're at the volume.

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Speaker 2: Happy Tuesday, everybody. Oh all, if you guys are having

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Speaker 2: a great week so far, gonna jampackshow for you guys today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do a trade deadline preview, very similar to

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Speaker 2: what we did with the Eastern Conference last week. So

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be going from the top of the

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Speaker 2: conference down through the top eight teams, just kind of

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Speaker 2: taking a look at what the deadline looks like for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the season. All right, let's talk some basketball,

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Speaker 2: and again little disclaimer here, I feel the need to

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Speaker 2: say this after what happened in our Eastern Conference trade

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Speaker 2: deadline preview. You're right, we don't know how much most

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Speaker 2: of these guys are going to cost maybe a guy

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Speaker 2: will go for one pick, maybe he.

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Speaker 1: Goes for three.

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Speaker 2: Also, you know what, you'll have two match salaries when

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Speaker 2: it comes to getting a good player. So if you

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Speaker 2: thirty forty, maybe even fifty million dollars, you're gonna most

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Speaker 2: likely have to send out thirty forty fifty million dollars,

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Speaker 2: which means even a player that is good, that is

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Speaker 2: to go out in order to facilitate that type of deal.

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Speaker 2: As is always the case, it's very difficult for trades

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Speaker 2: got to make sense for both sides. It's very difficult

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Speaker 2: it's harder than ever under the new rules with the

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Speaker 2: new CBA. But that's not really the goal of today's show.

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Speaker 2: The goal of today's show is to have some fun

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Speaker 2: around the trade deadline and to come up with fake

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Speaker 2: trades and to talk about what teams need. And so

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a little bit of a loose

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Speaker 2: that it's more likely than not that any individual one

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Speaker 2: of these trades doesn't get done. Even though we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have those conversations today, I just felt the need to

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Speaker 2: say that after what happened in our Eastern Conference preview,

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Speaker 2: when everybody and their brother was jumping in to be like,

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Speaker 2: hey wait, when it's like, yeah, we all know that's

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Speaker 2: kind of how this works. Now, I'm gonna be working

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Speaker 2: the conference honestly doesn't really have a lot of need

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Speaker 2: talk about each individual team and what that might look like.

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Speaker 2: they're not desperate to get deals done within this season

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Speaker 2: Lucas twenty six years old, so I think they'll be

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Speaker 2: definitely looking to do something at this deadline, but I

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Speaker 2: like both of those teams really need trades. The Lakers

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Speaker 2: It gives Klay Thompson a chance to compete for a championship.

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Speaker 2: look at Trey Murphy this summer. Essentially the deal would

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Speaker 2: very different type of player than Jay Dubb. He's bigger

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Speaker 2: threes at an extremely high rate. He's forty six percent

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Speaker 2: He's averaging twenty two points per game on sixty four

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Speaker 1: He's a professional shooter.

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Speaker 2: I just thought that that was an interesting thing to

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Speaker 2: entire purpose of this episode is to come up with

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Speaker 2: if the Thunder never made a trade, they'd be the

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Speaker 2: is just an example of a thought exercise for Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: you could maintain your defensive identity, still be a dominant

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Speaker 1: Sometimes.

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Speaker 2: This is a bona fide championship contender, top tier championship contender,

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Speaker 2: runaway championship favorite. I'm not saying they should do anything.

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Speaker 2: more offensive diversity. Number two, the San Antonio Spurs top

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Speaker 2: it becomes more manageable to keep Peyton Watson around into

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Speaker 2: sure Davion Mitchell really fits what Houston needs anyway. Tyres

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Speaker 2: Maxi untradeable, Keante George untradeable, Shay untradable, Donovan Mitchell and tradeable,

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Speaker 2: is more of like a different conversation than them anchoring

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Speaker 2: That's an offseason kind of thing. Obviously, Denver maybe try

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if we saw on no trades

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Speaker 2: The only guys that can really say for certain will

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Speaker 2: so he's fine as you're starting power forward for now,

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Speaker 2: but he'll be gone either this summer or next and

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Speaker 2: then they have no starting caliber small forwards on the roster,

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Speaker 2: rest of the season and maybe one more depending on

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Speaker 2: no serious way. They might upset somebody if Luca and

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Speaker 2: there's no reason for them to do something desperate for

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Speaker 2: at this deadline, yeah, I think they they'll jump on

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Speaker 2: to make that sort of deal when they have a

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Speaker 1: Down the line.

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Speaker 2: But they're going to be very picky because they're not

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Speaker 2: the lens of can they do something at this deadline

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Speaker 2: that's not expensive, that's not a big deal, but that

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Speaker 2: turn you know, one or two of their end of

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Speaker 2: least a defensive athlete that can anchor a team that

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Speaker 2: to show some troubling injury history that would get me

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Speaker 2: off of the Walker Kessler trail if I was the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Nikolavusevich is too old. Nick Claxton, I actually really like

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Speaker 2: him for the Lakers. He's got some scheme versatility because

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Speaker 2: JJ really likes to switch. He's also a vertical spacer.

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Speaker 2: He's had several stretches in his career where he's anchored

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Speaker 2: elite defense for different different types of rosters. I think

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Speaker 2: Gafford is like an okay option. I think he's got

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Speaker 2: whole MAVs angle, like are the Lakers and MAVs gonna

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Speaker 2: And then you get into a bunch of backup center options,

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Speaker 2: Jackson is just fine. Jackson's had a great season this year.

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Speaker 2: So the only real guy that I like on that

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Speaker 2: flexibility here just because Luca is so big, your de

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00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 2: facto point guard, that I think you could get away

435
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: with the smaller wing here. But I think that player

436
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: needs to be very athletic, and I think he needs

437
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: to be a good rebounder. The two main ones that

438
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: get thrown around here are Herb Jones and Andrew Wiggins.

439
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: Both comes come with downsides. Herb, if he's even available,

440
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 2: is probably very expensive. I'm not even sure one single

441
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 2: first round pick gets you a guy like Herb Jones.

442
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 2: It's possible, but it's hard to say. And Then Andrew

443
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,959
Speaker 2: Wiggins is going to turn thirty one this in this season,

444
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 2: so he's just on the cusp of being a little

445
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: too old to fit Luca's timeline. I actually like Wiggins

446
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: more overall as a player. I think he's got a

447
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 2: lot of big game experience. He's an excellent rebounder. He's

448
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: more stout physically, so he can guard different types of

449
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 2: players better than Herb can. But I totally understand why

450
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers would be hesitant to include a first round

451
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: pick for a guy who's going to turn thirty one

452
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: in this year's playoff run. Like, I totally understand why

453
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 2: that would be something that they would back off from

454
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 2: the power forward spot. Again, they can wait a little

455
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 2: because Lebron is going to be plenty good for this season.

456
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's out of the car. Like

457
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: everyone keeps acting like this is over, and I'm not

458
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: saying that it is. Like, I'm not saying that it's

459
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: not over. Like I wouldn't be surprised if Lebron is

460
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: a free agent decided to go somewhere else next year.

461
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: I just also wouldn't be surprised if he looked around

462
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: he was like, I can still play, I'm still good.

463
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: My kids are here, you know, I want to stay here.

464
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: You know, Like two of his kids are still in LA,

465
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: and he might just decide that he wants to stay

466
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: in LA and take some discount and stay home and

467
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: play for the Lakers.

468
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: Like that's on the table.

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00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it completely off the table, but I

470
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 2: think they can afford to wait a little bit with

471
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: that power forward spot. So looking at the situation, if

472
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: Rob is unwilling to part with the first round pick,

473
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: then they aren't getting Claxton, they aren't getting Wiggins, they

474
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: an't getting Herb Jones. If I was running the Lakers

475
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: for the record, and I could get a Herb Jones

476
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 2: or I could get a Nick Claxton, I would use

477
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 2: the first round pick. I don't think this team is

478
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 2: getting y honest, And I view both of those guys

479
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: as positive assets, Claxton and Herb for example. So like,

480
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: if they needed to include those guys in a package

481
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: for a start down the line, I'd view them as

482
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: every bit as valuable as a first round pick in

483
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: that package anyway, you know what I mean, Like, if

484
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: it's two first and you have like imagine you make

485
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: a star trade a couple of years from now, and

486
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 2: it's two first and Herb Jones versus three first and

487
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: a bunch of bullshit salary filler. Like, if I'm the

488
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 2: team on the other side of the trade, I'm like,

489
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: give me Herb Jones. I can use him. I can

490
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: actually use him as a foundational piece on my team.

491
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: Like these guys, when you make a trade for starting

492
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: caliber player in their mid twenties, they maintain value it's

493
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: not like you're dumping those first round picks into the trash.

494
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: So like, I would personally put the first round pick

495
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: on the table if they could get Claxton or if

496
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: they could get herb Jones. I think it's iffy. With

497
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins, it would be a little bit more complicated,

498
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: but with those two guys in their twenties, I would

499
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: do it. I think Rob needs to be very careful

500
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 2: with waiting too long to improve the team because things

501
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: could sour quickly. If the team just sucks for Lucas

502
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: first two and a half years in a Lakers jersey,

503
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: that could turn that relationship problematic very fast. Grabbing one

504
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: of those two guys makes you substantially better in the

505
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: short term while also keeping your asset trove as strong

506
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 2: as it was, because those guys are positive assets in

507
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: their own way. And so I personally think Rob's got

508
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: to be very careful with like waiting until you know,

509
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: a year and a half from now to make some

510
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: sort of larger deal. So what are some examples of

511
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: discounted deals the ways that the Lakers can improve the

512
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: team without sacrificing the first round pick. My favorite is

513
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: just In Chimpangnee from Washington. He's actually been one of

514
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: my favorite role player wings in the league for a

515
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: while just because of how incredibly active he is. He

516
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 2: averages in his career ten rebounds per thirty six minutes

517
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: at six'. Six that's how active he is on the

518
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: glass two point six stocks per thirty six minutes as

519
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: a wing at six, six, like he is just incredibly.

520
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: Active he's a. Ball he gets his hands on. Everything

521
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: he's the kind of guy that The lakers desperately. Need

522
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: he's also thirty seven percent on unguarded catch and shoot,

523
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 2: threes which doesn't sound, great but he's extremely active as

524
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: an offensive rebounder and cutter as. Well he's fifty three

525
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: made baskets this year on cuts in offensive rebound. Putbacks

526
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: he is constantly around the rim making. Plays he's also

527
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: sneaky goods slipping out of, screens WHICH i think would

528
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: be advantageous Alongside lebron And. LUCA i literally Think Justin

529
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 2: champenni is the perfect time motor athlete to anchor These

530
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 2: laker stars on the, perimeter AND i think they could

531
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 2: get it done for less expensive than a hell of a,

532
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: lot less expensive than some of these other deals they've

533
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: been looking, at Like i'd offer him Like dalton connect

534
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 2: and a second round pick For justin champenn and see

535
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: if you can get it done. THERE i think he's

536
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: exactly the kind of guy that they could be looking

537
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: at some other options to look. AT i would Assume

538
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: moves one of my favorites because he has more ball,

539
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: skills like he can shoot the ball and dribble the

540
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: ball a little. Bit he's Spent, sneaky a very efficient

541
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: pick and roll shot creator this. Year Julian phillips out

542
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: Of chicago freaky At fleet a lot of potential. There

543
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: hasn't fully come to fruition, yet but he's the type

544
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: of freaky athlete prospect that could give you some. Upside

545
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: Malkie branham just like a physical athletic guard out Of,

546
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: washington Oshek, Baji Isaac. Korro there's plenty of options for

547
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: these kinds of guys that you can find around the

548
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: league that are not overly. Expensive bottom line for The,

549
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: lakers if they can Turn gabe Or maxi into high

550
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: motor athletes without having to spend a first round, PICK

551
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: i think that's a. Win they have no value to

552
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: The lakers as, players but they are expiring, contracts which

553
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: is a value around the. League you're basically trading cap

554
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: space to a. Team you're trading salary relief to a.

555
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Team SO i think if they could turn those guys

556
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: into some sort of positive rotation, piece that would be a.

557
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: Win number six The Phoenix. Suns this is another team

558
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: that it's hard to imagine them doing too much of

559
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: the deadline other than maybe. Selling they seem to have

560
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: found their core five guys for the, Future Like Colin

561
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: gillespie has moved into the starting lineup for them and

562
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 2: has been playing super well all. Season he's been one

563
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 2: of their best plus minus. Guys that's your point, Guard

564
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: Devin booker is your two, guard and your. Superstar Dylan

565
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: brooks has literally become one of the better small forwards

566
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: in the league in terms of like that starting small forward.

567
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: Class you, KNOW i Know Ryan dunn is not starting

568
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: right now and he's not playing a, ton BUT i

569
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: think he's going to be your power forward to the

570
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: future in the long. Run and Then Mark williams is

571
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: a perfectly fine foundational center for at least the short,

572
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: term maybe longer if he stays healthy And you've got

573
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: Common malawatch coming up behind. Him that's a great core

574
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: five to six, players and that group is already twenty

575
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: seven to eighteen in a Brutal Western conference and with

576
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: some bad injury luck this. Year so the real question,

577
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: is with how Good phoenix has, been are they interested

578
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: in selling rather than going for it this? Year like

579
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: as feisty and as good As phoenix has, BEEN i

580
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: don't view them as a team that's going to go

581
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: win four, rounds Right and LIKE i think we all

582
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: think they probably need more talent before they can get

583
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: to that. Point but they do have several players THAT

584
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: i think they could move for asset return in terms

585
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: of hurting their chances in the short, term but giving

586
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 2: them more flexibility around their core in the future as

587
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: these guys continue to get. Better so Like royce, O'Neil for,

588
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: EXAMPLE i bet you they could trade him and get

589
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: some form of draft compensation. Back Nick, Richards Grayson allen

590
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: is like the guy THAT i wouldn't, move just BECAUSE

591
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: i really like his fit with this group and he

592
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: can generate dribble, penetration WHICH i think is so important for.

593
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: Them BUT i Think phoenix is more like kind of

594
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: like closer to the selling side of things than necessarily.

595
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: Buying i'll be really curious to see what they look

596
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: to do at this. Deadline number seven The Minnesota. Timberwolves

597
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: i've seen a lot of talk surrounding Potential timberwolves, trades

598
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: and they don't have any available first round picks to,

599
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: trade but they do have a ton of second round

600
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: picks they could use swaps as. WELL i personally don't

601
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: think they should do anything. Crazy if they wanted to

602
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: do something, small which we'll talk about in a, Minute

603
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: i'm on, Board but any of these like super, daring

604
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: kind of like aggressive trades like going For John morant for,

605
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: EXAMPLE i disagree. WITH i know at the time of

606
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: this recording and recording this On, Saturday january twenty, FOURTH

607
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: i know they're in the play in right now because

608
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: they're allergic to sustaining good basketball during the regular, season

609
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: but they ACTUALLY i still view them as a top tier.

610
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: Contender their metrics are really. Strong their top ten in,

611
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: offense top ten in, defense top, ten and rebounding seventh

612
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: and net. Rating they put together some signature wins in

613
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,239
Speaker 2: the last, month wins Over Oklahoma, city wins Over San,

614
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: antonio wins Over. Cleveland they allowed two hundred and forty

615
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: seven points to The bulls and The. Jazz that's pretty

616
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: Classic JANUARY nba regular season stuff and something That i've

617
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: grown to expect from This minnesota. Team you could make

618
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: a trade for a guy Like Robert williams because of

619
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: some of the issues you've had defensively With gobart off the,

620
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: floor but then you stifle the development Of Joan Baron

621
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: jay AND i actually really like, him so not SURE

622
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: i like that. Direction WHAT i would be looking at

623
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: is the same kind of group of bench wings that

624
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: The lakers are looking. At so Justin champenny iod Soon

625
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: mu is one THAT i actually really like For minnesota

626
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: because again he can handle and score a little, bit

627
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: AND i know that they've been looking at some backup ball.

628
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: Hands so you Throw Chicago Rob dillingham and three second

629
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: round picks For iota Soon, MoU see if you can

630
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: pull that, Off LIKE i, think he's the kind of

631
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: guy that'd be a real ceiling raising piece For. Minnesota

632
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: Keon ellis is another, option like one of your minimum

633
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: contracts Like Joe, ingles plus you, know maybe two second

634
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: round picks For Keon ellis something along those, LINES i

635
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: would hesitate to Trade Mike conley just because of how

636
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: important he is as a leader for this particular. Team

637
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: and then, lastly our second Interesting Western conference trade, team

638
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: The Golden State, warriors and again very different. Situation The

639
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: lakers need to make, trades but they don't need to

640
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: make them at this. Deadline The warriors have no choice

641
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: but to make some sort of aggressive trade at this.

642
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: Deadline it's kind of difficult to figure. Out Jimmy butler

643
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: is out for the, year and so what that has

644
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: done is it's made it complicated With Moses moody's. Salary

645
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: and you'll see this with a lot of the ones

646
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: the trades THAT i pitch here And i'm Gonna i'm

647
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: gonna go over like a half dozen different.

648
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: Guys but like.

649
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: When Jimmy butler was, healthy it made sense to Include

650
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Moses moody in a trade because, theoretically if you make

651
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: a move for a, four like say you Give Michael Porter,

652
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: junior for, example you, Go jimmy's your, Three mpg's your,

653
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: Four draymond's your, five you can go bigger, lineups and

654
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: with two bigs there's a bunch of different directions you could,

655
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: go but as soon As jimmy's, Out Moses moody kind

656
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: of has to be in this picture as your more,

657
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: big physical perimeter. Defender, Right, so like that gets tough

658
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: Because moody, makes you, know eleven and a half million

659
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: or whatever it is he makes this. Year that's a

660
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: large chunk of salary that you can use as a

661
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: vehicle to facilitate a lot of these. Trades but you

662
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: can't do that anymore without sacrificing that that kind of

663
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: like small forward, depth which is now so thin with

664
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: the loss Of Jimmy.

665
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: Butler.

666
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: Right the second pieces of it is like can you Trade?

667
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: Draymond AND i understand Like warriors fans are kind of

668
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: sick and tired To. Draymond he's been having a little

669
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: bit of a up and down season in terms of

670
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: his like focus, level which is like kind of, Disappointing

671
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: but it's just the reality of how things have. GONE

672
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: i would be really hesitant to Trade Draymond rain IF

673
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: i wasn't getting a defensive foundation center back because the

674
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: whole purpose of this is to try to Give Steph

675
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: curry at age thirty, eight a chance to compete for

676
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: a championship and if you bring in scoring, pop but

677
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: you sacrifice your defensive, ceiling it's. Pointless LIKE i understand

678
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: you have your frustrations With draymond as in terms of

679
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: his focus in the regular, season but you're not beaten

680
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: anybody in the postseason unless you have a defensive anchor

681
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: at the center, position And draymond is that for you

682
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: still to this day if you're in a big. Game

683
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: so if you're not Including draymond unless you're getting a

684
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: defensive center, back and you're probably not Including moody unless

685
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: you're getting a small forward, back it definitely gets. Tough

686
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: but let's get let's dig into some of these. Concepts

687
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: i'll also really quickly before we get. STARTED i Understand

688
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: Johnathan kaminga has played well in his two stints since

689
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: The jimmy, injury thirty points on ten for, thirteen shooting some.

690
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Highlights i've seen a lot of victory laps getting taken

691
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: about that. RUN i would hesitate IF i were. You

692
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: we've seen plenty of examples Of kaminga putting up numbers

693
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: in a losing, context and putting up numbers when you're

694
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: already down by twenty plus points against The. Raptors when

695
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: they've started to relax a little, bit or putting up

696
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: numbers against a Tanking MAVs team bench. Lineup that's not

697
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: the same as doing it in a starting role in

698
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: a winning context against good, teams and that has been

699
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: the concern With kaminga in the larger. Sample Now i'm

700
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: half Expecting Joe lacup to step in and put his

701
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: foot down and just put the kebash on any sort

702
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: Of john of The kaminga, trade just because he's so

703
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: obsessed with him and he probably feels like there's no

704
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: point anymore in going for. It BUT i would still Trade.

705
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Kaminga he's one of your best vehicles with which to

706
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: actually facilitate a, trade And joe owes it To steph

707
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: to go for it while, Here SO i think that

708
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: they're still gonna trade Coming that's What i'm, Hoping BUT

709
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: i wouldn't be surprised If Joe lacub came in and

710
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: put the kabash on. It but for the purpose of

711
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: this drill, Here kaminga is gonna get. Traded first of,

712
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: ALL i don't like The DeMar De rozen, fit AND

713
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: i actually Like DeMar De. Rozen he's playing pretty well

714
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: as of. LATE i just think he's more of a brute,

715
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: force matchup attacking kind of. PLAYER i don't think he

716
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: necessarily Fits Steve curse's system really. WELL i do see

717
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: it from the standpoint of a cheap talent, play and

718
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: it's more easy to pull off than some of these

719
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: other deals that we've looked, at and we know The

720
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: king is Like Jonathan, Kaminga i'm just not a huge

721
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: fan of the, fit But DeMar De rozen is certainly

722
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: on the. Table it's been reported that that's a direction

723
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: that they would. Look Anthony davis is the type of

724
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: move THAT i keep coming back, to And i'm gonna explain.

725
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: Why BUT i want to go towards these other deals

726
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: first and then work my way back To Anthony. Davis

727
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: you guys can see Why i'm actually looking at it this.

728
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: Way so Like Laurie, markenin for, EXAMPLE i LIKE lori

729
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: with The, warriors the move is just really difficult to

730
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: pull off with how large his salary. Is you basically

731
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: have to Include. Draymond AND i don't mind including him

732
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: for a guy Like Anthony davis because your defense is still.

733
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: Angered But draymond FOR lori just plugs one hole and

734
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: opens up another right and one of the other things

735
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about. Here all these trades get more

736
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: doable if you Include Jimmy butler's. Salary BUT i think

737
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: that gets complicated on several. Levels why would that other

738
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: team want to just take on a giant contract next

739
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: season for an injured old. Veteran now you're just gonna

740
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: have to include more draft compensation to facilitate.

741
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: That and, like so, like.

742
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: If they're not Getting kaminga and they're not getting one

743
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: of your other role, players but they're Getting Jimmy butler

744
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: with the torn acl they're gonna just want more draft. Compensation,

745
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: also if you can Keep, jimmy there's the upside of

746
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: like what if next year In, January So january twenty twenty,

747
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: Seven jimmy makes a return and you have An Anthony

748
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: davis and it's, like, shit now we Got, Steph jimmy And.

749
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: Ad let's go let's see if we can do The,

750
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: yeah they're, older but let's see if we can go

751
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: do this.

752
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: Thing.

753
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: Right, so, LIKE i have not Included jimmy as the

754
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: trade piece for any of these, deals but if you

755
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: make a deal For lorie Without, jimmy you have to

756
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: Include draymond that sacrifices your defense while anchoring your. OFFENSE

757
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: i don't think that makes a ton of, Sense Zach.

758
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: Lavine i'm just generally out on as a basketball. PLAYER

759
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: i don't think he's good enough at the little things

760
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: to be the kind of player that would fit In

761
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: Golden state's. Culture yannis presents the same salary matching problem As.

762
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: Ad BUT i suppose you could Use jimmy's contract in

763
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: that context when you're getting someone Like. Giannis but once,

764
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: again if you're just Giving Milwaukee, yanis or excuse, me

765
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: if you're Giving Milwaukee jimmy and, picks that might not

766
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: be enough in the, marketplace whereas if It's kminga and

767
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of, picks it might be. Competitive, also the

768
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: one THING i will say About giannis is if you Get,

769
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: YANNIS i think that's another deal where you could consider Including.

770
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: Draymond so if you Include draymond and you include Uh,

771
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: kaminga then you kind of have to Use Buddy.

772
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: Held as the third piece.

773
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: There if you do, that you kind of have to

774
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: pay someone to take On Buddy heeld's contract in order

775
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: to make the salaries. Match so that's So let's say

776
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: you Call brooklyn and you pay them something to hold

777
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: on To Buddy held to facilitate A yianni's trade For

778
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 2: draymond And Jonathan. Kaminga that's whatever draft compensation you throw

779
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: Towards brooklyn is less draft compensation you can throw towards Towards.

780
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: Milwaukee so it's just really difficult to kind of facilitate.

781
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: That if you look at it, Too like With giannis

782
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: getting older and him becoming more injury, prone that's the

783
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: type of dangerous. Deal if you throw just a ton

784
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: of draft compensation At milwaukee For giannis and you pull

785
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: off that kind of, deal that could backfire pretty. Spectacularly

786
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: BUT i think it all it just is difficult to

787
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: piece together in terms of the machinations of the. Deal

788
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: if you don't Include, jimmy you've got to pay someone

789
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: to Hold buddy heeld. Salary if you're doing Include, JIMMY

790
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: i don't know if you have the draft compensation for.

791
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: It it's just tough to kind of like. Facilitate that's

792
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: why The giannis pipe dream has been a pipe dream

793
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: for lack of a better. WORD i still Like Michael

794
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: Porter junior's fit with The, warriors IF i could just

795
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: like plug him. In but once, again salary matching is

796
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: tough because of the loss Of. Jimmy that means you'd

797
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: have to Include Moses moody to go get a guy

798
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Like Michael Porter, junior and you can't Include draymond because

799
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: of the same reason with.

800
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: Marking.

801
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: In IF i Include, Draymond i'm sacrificing my defense to

802
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: Get Michael Porter. Junior IF i Get Michael Porter junior

803
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: AND i Sacrifice Moses, MOODY i don't have a big wing,

804
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: defender a big guy who can guard some of the

805
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: larger ball handlers around THE, nba like if A Luka

806
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 2: doncic came around in a playoff series or A Kawhi,

807
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: leonard something along those. Lines so it's just once, AGAIN

808
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: i Liked Michael Porter junior before The jimmy injury because

809
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 2: you could give Up Michael Porter, junior or you could

810
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: give Up Moses moody and you could give Up Jonathan,

811
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: Kaming and you look at your lineup and you, go,

812
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: Well jimmy's my, three And Michael Porter junior is my,

813
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: Four draymond's my. Five we're. Good we can go. Big

814
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: this all makes. Sense it just is tough with the.

815
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: SALARIES i Like Trey murphy a, lot AND i think

816
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: it's a lot more feasible from the standpoint in matching.

817
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: Salaries he'd just be. Expensive so, like let's, say for,

818
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 2: instance the price Is jonathan Kaminga Brandon pajemski and two

819
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: first round picks and a swap For Trey.

820
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: Murphy, like that's a really steep.

821
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: Price would you, guys be willing to sacrifice a good

822
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: chunk of your future, flexibility a good chunk of your

823
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: future for A Trey. Murphy that's that's where it gets pretty.

824
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: Tough and you, KNOW i Just i'm not sure if

825
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: he's the caliber of player to justify that level of.

826
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: Expense after, that again you get into a bunch of

827
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: severely flawed. Players you, know we talked about De rosen

828
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: And Levine tyler HERO i Like tyler heroes fit more

829
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: Than Demarto. Rosen he's a quick decisions coming off of screens.

830
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: Guy but that, one once again just not quite good

831
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: enough of a. Player There's LaMelo. Ball once, AGAIN i

832
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 2: think you'd have to Include draymond Or, moody and that

833
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: would be more of like a move for the. Future

834
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: it just gets really. Tough if you're giving Up, draymond

835
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: or you're giving Up Moses, moody you're bringing In LaMelo,

836
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: ball you're significantly sacrificing your ability to, defend especially from

837
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: matchup to match up at that. Point that's WHY i

838
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: keep coming back To Anthony. Davis he's the only guy

839
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: that isn't going to cost you too many draft picks

840
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: or force you to sacrifice your playoff ceiling on defense

841
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: by Including. Draymond so looking at The Anthony davis, deel

842
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 2: it capitalizes on the urgency of the staff situation without

843
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: being so expensive that it's detrimental to their long term.

844
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: Future it is also extremely difficult to pull. Off it's

845
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: similar to The yannis, structure where you'd have to get

846
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: a third team involved to take on some. Salary but

847
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: he's not going to cost anywhere near as much in

848
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: terms of draft compensation As giannis would. Cost so for,

849
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: instance imagine a scenario where you basically Send kaminga And

850
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: draymond to The MAVs and you Send Buddy yield to The.

851
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: Nets you might be able to just give one pick

852
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: To dallas for The Anthony davis. Piece then something small

853
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: to basically Incentivize brooklyn to take On Buddy healed for

854
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: two additional. Years at it's like nineteen million total or

855
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: twenty million total over two. Years that is the kind

856
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: of deal where you could feasibly do it with less

857
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: than two first round. Picks and you send Out, draymond

858
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: but you bring back the guy who is the defensive

859
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: anchor of the. Team then you imagine a new version

860
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: of this team where you Have steph And Anthony davis

861
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: as you're kind of like. Anchor and then eventually next,

862
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: season what If jimmy comes back all of a, Sudden,

863
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 2: Steph jimmy And Anthony davis is a pretty enticing trio

864
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: to take a look. At so, again the hardest thing

865
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: about The Jimmy butler injury is it made one of

866
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: your mid level. Salaries, again when you want to make,

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00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 2: deals having those salaries between ten and thirty, million those

868
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: are the ones that are really easy to plug in

869
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: and aggregate to make deals. Happen the loss Of jimmy

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00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 2: Made Moses moody really hard to. Trade and if you're

871
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: not going to include those Guys draymond Or moody in a,

872
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: deal it just gets really difficult to. Facilitate Anthony davis

873
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: is the one deal on that list where you can Keep,

874
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: moody you give Up, draymond but you're getting a defensive

875
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: anchor and you're not spending too much of your draft

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00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: compensation for the. Future AND i Understand Anthony davis has

877
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: had injury, problems And i'm not going to sit here

878
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: and gloss over, those but that's why he would be.

879
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: Affordable If Anthony davis had been healthy for every bit

880
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: of the last two, years he'd be the seventh best

881
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 2: player in THE, nba and this would be a fundamentally

882
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: different conversation and he'd be completely out of your league

883
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: in terms of the feasibility of. Trading so, AGAIN i

884
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: understand these are all for all of these. Teams it's

885
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: a lot of. Hypotheticals it's a lot of like what

886
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: is this dude? Worth you, know there's a lot of

887
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: reporting that goes around to, Like, oh this team's not

888
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: even looking to trade this. Guy this team might consider

889
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: keeping this guy through the. Deadline you, know this team

890
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: wants at minimum multiple first round picks and young. Players

891
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: you know like this. Guy you know this specific, player

892
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: this this specific player that there's all of these rumors flying,

893
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: around but it's just fun to kind of go through

894
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: and take a look at the teams and just talk

895
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: about what they need and at least come up with

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00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: some ideas for what might happen. There i'm half expecting

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00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: a freak out from thunder, fans even Though i'm just

898
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: trying to have some fun in the thought exercise of

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Speaker 2: That Trey murphy for JDub. Piece but, again it was.

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Speaker 2: FUN i appreciate you guys for hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: the ONE i told you guys On friday that we

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Speaker 2: were doing kind of a fake, mailbag real mail bag

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Speaker 2: tomorrow