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Speaker 1: The one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, it's Tuesday, and we're moving on, moving on

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Speaker 2: where the Chiefs week. That's where we are here in

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Speaker 2: week nine of the twenty twenty five season, and another

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Speaker 2: meeting with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: And all two familiar opponents.

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Speaker 2: Become an annual affair as both of these teams have

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Speaker 2: dominated their respective divisions the last several seasons. Bill's five

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Speaker 2: time champions of the AFC East. I believe the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: are up to nine something like that, maybe ten, anybody

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Speaker 2: in the conversation executive division titles.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if the Chargers of the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Can put some pressure on them, as both of those

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Speaker 2: teams are playing good football right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Chiefs get.

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Speaker 2: Another win last night, which we will get to in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Broncos are still on top of that division

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Speaker 3: And two, Chiefs right behind them at five and three.

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Speaker 1: And the Chargers at five and three are ahead of

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Speaker 3: Because of the head tiebreaks.

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Speaker 1: So there are, yes, there are three AFC West teams

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Speaker 1: the number seven seed, Los Angeles number six, and Denver

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's already begun. So yeah, our MSG viewers are

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Speaker 2: getting a look at the AFC conference stand. He's obviously

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are highly efficient offense, somewhat underrated defense, but

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Speaker 1: Productive, really playing well. So there you go, and that's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's been a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: roller coas the last three weeks, obviously, but the two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, against the soft schedule.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then of course the the Atlanta game. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty disturbing for Bills fans because Atlanta still seems like

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Speaker 1: They can't get out of their own way, that kind

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Speaker 2: Patriots are playing a last play schedule, so that's why it's.

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Speaker 1: And it's it is too that we're still in You know,

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Speaker 2: news was not good on defensive tackle Ed Oliver. As feared,

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Speaker 2: he sustained a bicep injury and is out indefinitely. Oliver

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: This week's game against the Chiefs is presented by ECMC

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Speaker 2: e c MC, bringing hope and healing to Western New York.

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the NFL, which is presented by Kalida Healthy,

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Speaker 2: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. And speaking of

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Washington Commanders and backup quarterback Marcus Mariota

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Speaker 2: were no match for Patrick Mahomes in company Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: despite two early interceptions by Mahomes, one going away twenty

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Speaker 2: they improved to five and three. They are now just

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Speaker 2: One of those touchdown passes went to Travis Kelcey, whose

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Speaker 3: So that's really coming in on a heater.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in case you're wondering, that's very good.

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Speaker 1: That game last night looks all too familiar to Bills fans.

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Speaker 1: I mean that it's a team that can run all

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Speaker 1: It's a scary group Offensively. It was seven to seven

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Speaker 1: Defensively they've got and they played with a little emotion

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you decided to stay up for that eighteen

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Speaker 1: I wold Demeanor's bloodshot today. But I'll say, you know,

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Speaker 1: So Toronto took it on the chin. I've dropped the

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Speaker 1: One of the teams can Both these teams can play baseball.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't kind of knew where the Chiefs game was headed.

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Speaker 1: Right, once I knew where the Chiefs game was headed

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Speaker 3: Good on h So that is around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Your topic of discussion today concerns this Bill's Chiefs matchup,

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Speaker 2: and it's pretty simple. What does a regular season matchup

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Speaker 2: Does it carry some meaning for you? Is it going

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Speaker 3: You let us know.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three, five point fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 2: do have open lines for you. Where does this game

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Speaker 1: You know, we've been talking about this all with Bill's

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Speaker 1: If the Bills beat the Chiefs, it's like, no matter,

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Speaker 1: If they lose to the Chiefs, it's like, we can't

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady, let's start from scratch. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 3: But what is What does the matchup mean to you, Steve?

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Speaker 1: It's a measuring stee you gotta keep you want to

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Speaker 1: This is a team that you know, I mean, it

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to play again. This is a matchup

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Speaker 1: look good in this game. Now, both teams, both these

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Speaker 3: Well, that would give them four losses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they got and they've got the Broncos coming

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Speaker 3: And then probably being a shootout with the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: For the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: An enormous game for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to points. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Take the governor off.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's the right word for it. You can

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to the phones at eight o three,

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Speaker 3: What's up Tom?

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Speaker 4: Good? After noon? General men. Hey. I would like to

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Speaker 4: But anyway, as far as your question goes, earlier in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you do everything you can to win

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Speaker 3: That's the bottom line. The postseason. Be damned, you're not

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Speaker 2: You got to win games because you already got number

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Speaker 2: You were wry about your creativity and doing something different

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta win these games to get there.

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Speaker 1: We had this conversation, I think a little bit last

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Speaker 1: do whatever you think it's gonna take to win that game.

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Speaker 1: Always try and do everything you can to win this game.

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Speaker 1: Worry about the next game next week. If you had

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Speaker 1: be it, so be it. Win this game. And I

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Speaker 5: he's the only quality wide receiver that's getting the ball

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Speaker 5: because the other guy can't get open. Okay, And the

438
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Speaker 5: other question I have is why are we sitting on

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Speaker 5: our hands okay and not making a move for wide receiver?

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Speaker 6: What is the problem?

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Speaker 5: You're scared to give away a one or two? If

442
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Speaker 5: we can be able to make way a one and

443
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Speaker 5: get to the super Bowl, that's that's what we have

444
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Speaker 5: to try to do. That's just my opinion. I'll wait

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Speaker 5: for your answer.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Don't think because they have made a trade, they're sitting

448
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Speaker 1: on their hands. There it's a two way street. And

449
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Speaker 1: they're not gonna They're not gonna trade. They're not gonna overtrade.

450
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Speaker 1: I guess is what he's not gonna overpay for a

451
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Speaker 1: trade And they're not And and I I would be shocked.

452
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Speaker 1: One of the things I've learned being around and particularly

453
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Speaker 1: Brandon and in this point in history in the NFL,

454
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Speaker 1: gms apparently talk constantly about players values, who's available, what

455
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Speaker 1: would it take to get this guy? What would it

456
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Speaker 1: take to get that guy? And sitting on your and

457
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Speaker 1: I don't think they are sitting on their hands. I

458
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Speaker 1: don't think any GM in this day and age is

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Speaker 1: sitting on their hands.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how you could characterize that unless

461
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Speaker 2: you're his administrative assistant.

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Speaker 3: Right, Like seriously, like, how can you even say he is?

463
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Speaker 1: I know everybody.

464
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Speaker 3: I'm a reason or frame of reference.

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Speaker 1: To what if they make it. I'm okay with him

466
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Speaker 1: making a trade. That's fine, Go get a guy because

467
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Speaker 1: I think they because I know they're gonna make the

468
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Speaker 1: trade thinking that's gonna get him better. Whatever they call,

469
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Speaker 1: whether it's future draft capital or whether it's a guy

470
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Speaker 1: on the squad now money from money in, money out,

471
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Speaker 1: player in, player out, or player out, draft pick in,

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Speaker 1: player in, draft pick out kind of or draft pick in,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, switching lat and round picks and players who cares. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 1: go ahead if you think it's gonna make you better,

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Speaker 1: do it. But if they have an inkling, and I'm

476
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Speaker 1: just offering this as an I'm not saying they think

477
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Speaker 1: this or whatever, But if they think that when this

478
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Speaker 1: crew is healthy, they're everything they want them to be,

479
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Speaker 1: everything they signed them to be in the off season,

480
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Speaker 1: and I still think this is a much more talented

481
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Speaker 1: wide receiver room than it was a year ago, then

482
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Speaker 1: then they'll stand pat. And it doesn't have to be

483
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver either. They may be talking to some

484
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Speaker 1: people about some other position, detackle, safety, whatever, corner, who knows.

485
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Speaker 1: So just because you haven't seen a move made doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean they're sitting on their hands.

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Speaker 2: And then as for Shakir, I respect the point there. Ye,

488
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Speaker 2: Shakier is an important part of the passing game, There's

489
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Speaker 2: no question about it. And we saw last week that

490
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Speaker 2: they experimented with Keon Coleman as a punt return option.

491
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Speaker 2: He did it in college at Florida State, had a

492
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Speaker 2: pretty good measure of success doing it there, so maybe

493
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Speaker 2: he's the guy to do more of that going forward.

494
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Speaker 2: It's clear they are looking for a better answer there

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Speaker 2: than the one they have in Brandon Codrington, who's been

496
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Speaker 2: inactive for two or three games already this season. Healthy,

497
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Speaker 2: healthy and active. So yeah, we'll have to see what

498
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Speaker 2: comes of it. But I would tend to agree with you, Jack,

499
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Speaker 2: I would prefer to see Shakir not put in harm's

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Speaker 2: way on punt return so you know you have him

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Speaker 2: to play offense for you.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have a question about I'm kind

503
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Speaker 1: of with you or if you're going to put him

504
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Speaker 1: back there, like the old Wade Phillips say, just make

505
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Speaker 1: him a punt catcher, not a punt returner. Just here's

506
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Speaker 1: from my perspective, there's a couple of there's a lot

507
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Speaker 1: of priorities in special teams, and we've gone over this

508
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: a ton of times, but there's three reasons why they're important.

509
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Speaker 1: One is the field position, the huge swing back and forth.

510
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: You're punting at fifth like the first punt for the

511
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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, yet the other day by Sam Martin former

512
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: Bill fifty yards and it was almost a fifty yard net.

513
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Speaker 1: That's a huge punt. That's a huge play in the game.

514
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Speaker 1: But it's also the time when the Carolina Panthers are

515
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: given the Buffalo Bills the ball. That's another aspect of it.

516
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Speaker 1: The priority for the punt return team. No matter what happens,

517
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Speaker 1: the worst thing that can possibly happen is us having

518
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Speaker 1: bad field position. You can't leave a punt return play

519
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Speaker 1: without the ball in our possession. We gotta have the

520
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Speaker 1: ball at the end of the play. That's what a

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Speaker 1: punt catcher does. Let's say, listen, we're just gonna stop

522
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Speaker 1: the worst from happening. We're gonna catch the ball and

523
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Speaker 1: just get on with it. Now. When you when you've

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Speaker 1: got a good group and a good guy back there,

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we're gonna get at least we're gonna

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Speaker 1: catch the ball. We're gonna get at least a first

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Speaker 1: down on this punt return. Let's go, or we're gonna

528
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Speaker 1: get a touchdown. All that's on the table. But but

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Speaker 1: if you're just trying to get out of it with

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Speaker 1: the ball, get a guy back there. You can trust.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 7: Though.

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Speaker 1: In this league you got to hit all the buttons,

534
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: you got to play all the margins. You got a

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Speaker 1: guy that's gonna get a guy back there that's gonna

536
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Speaker 1: get you first down at least.

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Speaker 3: Because that's what's first down. That's your offense.

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00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: That's right, get a first down for your offense and

539
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Speaker 1: and go from there. You're the they're looking for it.

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Speaker 2: You made an impressive twenty five year old reference to

541
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Speaker 2: Chris Watson. That was impressive, Wade Phillips, we need we

542
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Speaker 2: got a punk catcher, a punt returner. Yeah, is Chris

543
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Speaker 2: Watson was that guy? Uh from the two thousand NFL

544
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: season for your Buffalo Bills.

545
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Speaker 3: That was a that was a big reach back.

546
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Speaker 1: God pulled it out of the quest my long term memory.

547
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's great.

548
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to take a break when we come

549
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Speaker 2: back We're gonna be catching up with Mitch Morse because

550
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: it's time to talk with him from the armchair presented

551
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: by Raymore and Flannigan. Get his thoughts on last week's

552
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 2: game as well as the biggie coming up next on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Stay with Us. All right, welcome back to One Bill's

555
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Speaker 3: Live Here on a Tuesday.

556
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and time for us

557
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Speaker 2: to pivot to from the armchair, which is presented by

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Speaker 2: Raymore and Flannagan. Raymore and Flannagan is a proud partner

559
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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, and sitting in said armchair is

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Speaker 2: former Bill center Mitch Morse, who joins us now. He's

561
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Speaker 2: also the host of the Monday Mornings with Mitch podcast.

562
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Speaker 2: But Mitch, I want to begin here because we only

563
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Speaker 2: got an opportunity to see him in the preseason, but

564
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Speaker 2: I was encouraged and thought he could be a force

565
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Speaker 2: multiplier for this defensive front.

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Speaker 3: And talk about a first impression.

567
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Speaker 2: Michael Hoyt up front was an absolute menace for the

568
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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers old line.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Chris, in fact, you guys told me to write

570
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Speaker 8: notes down during game. I'm gonna share you some with

571
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Speaker 8: you some of my notes. Bear with me here. First

572
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Speaker 8: quarter home game on the road. Just the crowd was electric.

573
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Speaker 8: Second note, Michael Hoyt is making an impact. Second quarter

574
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Speaker 8: Michael Hoyt with power rush causes scramble. Michael Hoyt adds

575
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Speaker 8: dimension to this stunt game, creating pressure without the blitz.

576
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Speaker 8: Third quarter Michael Hoyt fumble causing bowl rush. And then

577
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Speaker 8: the fourth quarter Michael Hoyt causing pressure again. And thirteen

578
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 8: minutes left in the fourth quarter, the announcers are checking

579
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Speaker 8: out and so am I. It was just an electric

580
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 8: performance by Michael Hoyt. Jokes on me for not knowing

581
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Speaker 8: what he could contribute. Of course, it's just one game.

582
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Speaker 8: Fans are gonna ask to see it more often than not.

583
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Speaker 1: But you can.

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Speaker 8: You can see it when we talked to earlier in

585
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Speaker 8: the week, just the just injection of energy that something

586
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Speaker 8: like this brings me. Look at him, He's having fun

587
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 8: playing football, and I think that's something that these guys

588
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 8: might have lost a little bit. Is just the joy

589
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Speaker 8: of it. And I'll tell you what, forty to nine

590
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 8: is going to cause a little bit of joy from

591
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Speaker 8: the boys. I'm sure that plane ride back was a

592
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 8: little bit of a party.

593
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and well it should be. It's it's interesting because

594
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Speaker 1: I we did postgame live and afterward Bills fans are

595
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Speaker 1: still clutching their pearls. I mean, the two game losing

596
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: streak really took the wind out of their sales. And

597
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: then coming back, they said, the only thing that's going

598
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Speaker 1: to fix it is a decisive, dominating win over Carolina.

599
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Speaker 1: So they get a forty to nine victory. And it didn't.

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Speaker 1: People were still like, it didn't look the way they

601
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Speaker 1: wanted it to look. They want Josh to be the engine.

602
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Speaker 1: They want him to throw the deep ball. They wanted

603
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Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field, and they want

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Speaker 1: him to throw for three hundred yards. They want him

605
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Speaker 1: to throw for three hundred yards and multiple touchdowns. They

606
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Speaker 1: want guys running open in the deep in the secondary.

607
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Speaker 1: And it didn't look like that. It looked like James

608
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: Cook rushing for two sixteen and a couple of touchdowns

609
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: and Josh getting a few ho home quarterback sneak touchdowns

610
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Speaker 1: and Josh completing twelve passes. So they didn't like that too.

611
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Speaker 1: It didn't feel good. So what's your advice.

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Speaker 8: That's the most sexual stat line for an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 8: I've overheard in my entire life. Hey, you know, I mean,

614
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Speaker 8: I just think I understand it.

615
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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 8: It's not the sexiest thing for the you know, the

617
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 8: layman to watch, you know, someone not pushing the ball

618
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 8: down the field. But that was just good football that

619
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Speaker 8: was played.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, James Cook alone two hundred and sixteen yards, two

622
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Speaker 8: hundred twelve yards rushing, two hundred and forty five yards

623
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Speaker 8: rushing on the day, a pair of touchdowns for Josh.

624
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Speaker 8: Of course there are one yard sneaks. But dude, you

625
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Speaker 8: won forty to nine. Have a little fun. Even the

626
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 8: players are having fun. Fans, It's okay. Take a deep breath, like, yes,

627
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Speaker 8: I understand you're being guarded because you had this two

628
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Speaker 8: game losing streak in the Carolina Panthers. You have this

629
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Speaker 8: preconceived notion of they're a good football team, and then

630
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Speaker 8: they were a great run stopping defense had held their

631
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Speaker 8: opponents to forty yards rushing the week before the Boys

632
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Speaker 8: banged out two hundred and forty something like. There's something

633
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 8: to celebrate about. Now. I understand you have expectations, and

634
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 8: that's great. You've earned those because of the way this

635
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 8: team's played in the past and the way that you

636
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 8: want this team to go. But have some joy, man, fans,

637
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 8: give yourself a little bit of grace. This was a

638
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 8: fun game to watch, and like I said, by thirteen

639
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 8: minutes left in the fourth quarter, the boys were talking

640
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 8: about pee wee football coaching like it's just like because

641
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 8: there's nothing constructive to say on the other side, it

642
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 8: was just it was a privilege to watch this game.

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00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were talking about former.

644
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: Panthers, Yeah, including Greg Olsen, who is one Mitch. We

645
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: saw Reggie Gilliam used more in the final month of

646
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: the regular season here last year, more I formation, more offset,

647
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: I maybe lining up on the wing at times pre snap.

648
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes even a motion guy, you know, on inside runs.

649
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: We're seeing more of him again this season, and even

650
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: when one of the tight ends was down, he was

651
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: used as the pseudo third tight end and some of

652
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Speaker 2: their thirteen personnel packages. What did you like about the

653
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Speaker 2: way he was utilized this past week.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Chris. The first play of the game was or

655
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Speaker 8: the first run play of the game for the Bills.

656
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Speaker 8: I think it might have been. The second play of

657
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Speaker 8: the game was this ten yard run down the field

658
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Speaker 8: and it just seemed a little different to me, Like

659
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Speaker 8: I'm used to these outside zones that the Bills run

660
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Speaker 8: and hitting back. And then I look at it and

661
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Speaker 8: it was a play that we had run, we had

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Speaker 8: come out with versus the Los Angeles Rams into twenty

663
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Speaker 8: twenty three. It was this run play where Reggie is

664
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Speaker 8: lined up, kind of motions over and runs full speed.

665
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Speaker 8: I mean, just give Reggie an opportunity to hit someone

666
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Speaker 8: and watch them celebrate, you know what I mean. And

667
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Speaker 8: so I just watched and then I was tallying up

668
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Speaker 8: every single rush that Reggie was in and then the

669
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Speaker 8: just three quarters of all I mean what James had

670
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Speaker 8: two or twelve yards rushing, one hundred and fifty of

671
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Speaker 8: those yards that he had rushing, Reggie was a lead

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Speaker 8: blocker on those runs, and I thought that was pretty outstanding.

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Speaker 8: I also just think it's one of those self scouting

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Speaker 8: deals that the Bill's staff did bringing some of this back.

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Speaker 8: I mean, they were getting home runs on gap schemes,

676
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Speaker 8: outside zone, outside zones, kicking back. It was just fun

677
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Speaker 8: to see and then Reggie get an opportunity to do

678
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Speaker 8: what he's been doing the last half a decade for

679
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Speaker 8: the Bills and that's just lower his head point and

680
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Speaker 8: shoot man, and then watch good things happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it seemed like the longer that game war

682
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Speaker 1: on and the more success James Cook had, the less

683
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Speaker 1: they even asked Josh to drop back and throw it.

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Speaker 1: I mean they didn't even they just is there a

685
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Speaker 1: sense that maybe everything changed once they got to nineteen

686
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Speaker 1: to three at halftime, came out and scored a touchdown

687
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Speaker 1: and went twenty six to three. At that point, do

688
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: they start saying, hey, listen, we're not throwing the ball

689
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Speaker 1: unless it's really long YARDI is right? Is there any

690
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Speaker 1: of that going on? Anthing totally?

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Speaker 8: I mean, what's been working the run game? Why deviate

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Speaker 8: from that, even if it's twenty six to three. Get

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Speaker 8: us to an opportunity where we can put the boys,

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Speaker 8: the starters out, bring a few guys in. But you

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Speaker 8: can't think like that until you're well into the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it was just if it's not broken, don't

697
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Speaker 8: fix it. And they found what was working and they

698
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Speaker 8: just rolled with it.

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Speaker 1: Man, it was.

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Speaker 8: Fun and it got the clock moving and it got

701
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Speaker 8: me able to it was dude, that game was so

702
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Speaker 8: one sided. I started reading my first book since the book,

703
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Speaker 8: you know, since the second Obama administration to Steve Irwin book.

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Speaker 1: I just it was fun.

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Speaker 8: It was a fun game, and the run game was alive,

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Speaker 8: and they they stuck with it.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We hear coach McDermott talk all the time, Mitch about

709
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Speaker 2: you know, complementary football, and this is probably the game

710
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Speaker 2: that I think we saw at the most because, first

711
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Speaker 2: of all, was the first multi takeaway game of the

712
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Speaker 2: season for the Bills after they had twelve such games

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Speaker 2: last year, and that afforded the offense some very short

714
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Speaker 2: fields in terms of starting position, and they cashed in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking seventeen points off turnovers, so I

716
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Speaker 2: do want you.

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Speaker 3: To talk about that.

718
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Speaker 2: But part two of this is I still feel like

719
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Speaker 2: they're trying to find the complimentary element on special teams

720
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Speaker 2: because I know coach mcdermoty talks a lot about the

721
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Speaker 2: hidden yardage in games, and they haven't been able to

722
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Speaker 2: manufacture that enough, at least on the return side. I

723
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Speaker 2: thought their cover teams were very good on Sunday, but

724
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Speaker 2: on the return side, it doesn't feel like they're giving

725
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Speaker 2: the other two phases a lot there, which is probably

726
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Speaker 2: why they're experimenting with guys like Keon Coleman in this game.

727
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Speaker 2: So first talk about the complimentary football we did see,

728
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Speaker 2: and then may be addressed, you know how we might

729
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Speaker 2: be able to remedy that special teams element to be

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Speaker 2: more complimentary.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Chris, that's a good two part question. The first

732
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Speaker 8: part of it, I mean, like you said, seventeen points

733
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Speaker 8: off of turnovers. Turnovers play this huge momentum. This football

734
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Speaker 8: is a game of momentum, all right, Both sides of

735
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 8: the ball fuel each other, right, and when you give

736
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Speaker 8: your offense an opportunity with an interception to literally do

737
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Speaker 8: the slowest push push of all time for a one

738
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Speaker 8: yard touchdown, that fuels the fire man. And then even

739
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 8: on offense, right like these these run these plays where

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Speaker 8: you run run play after run, play after run play.

741
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Speaker 8: You sustain these eight ten, twelve play drives, take time

742
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Speaker 8: off the clock, give your defense an opportunity to breathe,

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Speaker 8: and then you come back out and it's a three

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Speaker 8: and out, four and out. I mean, they only didn't

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Speaker 8: score once, and forgive me, then they scored every single

746
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Speaker 8: time off takeaways. They only kicked a field goal once.

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Speaker 8: And then I'm i mean, also you stop them. They

748
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Speaker 8: miss a field goal going into halftime. You come out

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Speaker 8: four plays later in the second half. Again this team

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Speaker 8: find success scoring the football out of halftime. It was

751
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Speaker 8: just really fun to see. You could see that energy

752
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 8: was being passed back and forth from the offensive defense

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Speaker 8: and for special teams. I don't know if I'm the

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Speaker 8: most apt to talk on it, because I was on

755
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Speaker 8: field goal for about five minutes in my career, but

756
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Speaker 8: I do think that sometimes, especially the return game, it's

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Speaker 8: so intricate, and Steve can probably attest to this more

758
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Speaker 8: it just take I mean, you get less reps in

759
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Speaker 8: at it, and sometimes it just takes a little bit

760
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Speaker 8: of a spark. One person gets the Holy Spirit involved

761
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Speaker 8: and it rolls. But I don't see it being too

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Speaker 8: much of a problem. I also don't know how you

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Speaker 8: rectify it. If this is their biggest complaint from the game,

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Speaker 8: I think it's going to be a pretty good thing

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Speaker 8: we're looking at here in the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw any of the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City game last night. I imagine you caught parts of

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Speaker 1: it at least. This is once again another regular season

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Speaker 1: meeting with the Chiefs. It's going to be an Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: the Bills are tough to play in there. They beat

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Speaker 1: them last year in this building has a different feel

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Speaker 1: now because the Chiefs really feel like they've got to win.

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Speaker 1: Last year they had a large margin they lost. Yet

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Speaker 1: yeah they were eleven and oh coming in last year,

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Speaker 1: so they you know, it was a different kind of

776
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Speaker 1: feel to this game. This one the Chiefs really need

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Speaker 1: and the Bills it's a big game for them as well.

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Speaker 1: First of all, how does that change things if at all?

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Speaker 1: And what do you expect from this game?

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Speaker 8: I expect to shoot out, Yeah, Steve, I think both

781
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Speaker 8: of these teams are coming in with something still to

782
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Speaker 8: prove some of these both these teams still feel like

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Speaker 8: they have a little bit of a chip on their

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Speaker 8: shoulder from how the season's progressed at the infancy of

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Speaker 8: the season. The Chiefs coming in these last three games

786
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Speaker 8: are on fire. They's just called a spade a spade.

787
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 8: They're on fire. And then you know the Bills are

788
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 8: coming off of forty to win, but they had those

789
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Speaker 8: two losses. They felt like they should have won and

790
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 8: they're not in first place in the FC East. More

791
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Speaker 8: than anything, you have to win for home playoff advantage,

792
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Speaker 8: because sure you might meet these guys in the future.

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Speaker 8: But the biggest thing right now is that both of

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Speaker 8: these teams the novelty is over playing each other. In

795
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Speaker 8: my opinion, you got to get this game going. It's

796
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Speaker 8: just the next game mentality, I think for both these teams.

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Speaker 8: But that doesn't mean it's not going to be electric.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 8: I think that four o'clock kickoff is going to be awesome.

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Speaker 2: Mitch, thanks as always for the time. Good to catch

801
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Speaker 2: up with you, and we'll do the same next week.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate you guys. Take it easy now, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's Mitch Morris from the armchair, presented by Raymore and Flannagan.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break here, get back to the phone

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Speaker 2: calls when we return here on Tuesday. As we are

806
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Speaker 2: asking you, what does a regular season game with the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs mean for.

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Speaker 3: You these days?

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Speaker 2: Is it lost its luster? It still get you pumped up?

810
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: Do you still have bitter, seeing, red hatred for this

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Speaker 2: foot ball team? You let us know next here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Back here on One Bills Live Chris Brown,

813
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, and it's time for Game day mentality, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Best Self, Best Self Behavioral Health, the

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00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 2: official mental health partner of the Buffalo Bills. And see,

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Speaker 2: probably the biggest thing this week is not getting out

817
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: over your skis for this one. I mean, this is

818
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: a biggie on the schedule, and we don't need guys

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00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: that you got to pull off the ceiling because they're

820
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 2: so jacked up they can't even focus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds I mean, Bills fans are tired of

822
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: hearing it. I mean, he trust the process, complimentary football,

823
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: you know that whole thing. But they if the Bills

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Speaker 1: play their game and they play their best and they're

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Speaker 1: the play play and they're the best version of themselves, right,

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Speaker 1: if all that happens, You're fine. You're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna win the game. Are You're gonna be too

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00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: much for them to handle, and you know it's going

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Speaker 1: to be up to them to take you out of

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Speaker 1: your game and vice versa. The Bills have got to

831
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Speaker 1: do enough to take the Chiefs off of their game.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we've seen that's hard to do because

833
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: they're very good at the old saying making chicken salad.

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Speaker 1: When things go all wrong in the Chiefs for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: after the snap, Mahomes can make it right. He is

836
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Speaker 1: absolutely the best eraser we've ever seen in the league.

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Speaker 1: He's unbelievable, and the Bills have seen it firsthand time

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Speaker 1: and time again. You know what's important. I think this

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00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: coaching staff maybe has a more specific idea of what

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00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: they have to do and what you can do against

841
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: him than other clubs do, or most other clubs probably

842
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: have the same idea. But the Bills know what they

843
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: can do to take him out of his game and

844
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Speaker 1: to limit him. But this is a new animal as

845
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: well in their offense. They've got Rashid Rice, They've got Worthy,

846
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: They've got Hollywood Brown, They've got Kelsey, who seems resurged

847
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: here that in this twelfth year in the league, Pacheco

848
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: looks like Isaiah Pacheco's probably not going to play in

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Speaker 1: this game. He did not play in last year's regular

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00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: season game.

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00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: Is but they diagnosed with an MCL knee injury and

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00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: is listed as week to week so not expected to

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Speaker 2: play on Sunday now.

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Speaker 1: But they but they they played well without him, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a different iteration of the Chiefs. This is

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Speaker 1: also a little bit of a different iteration of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be one fun to watch him. But

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Speaker 1: I but I think all of us believe if the

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00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: Bills play their best football, you know, they're too tough

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00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: to be for almost any other team and may be close,

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Speaker 1: but I think the Bills are going to be better,

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00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: particularly in their building.

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00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: Bills needed two takeaways in last year's regular season matchup

864
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: to win the game by nine, got an early Patrick

865
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Speaker 2: Mahomes interception, and then a second Mahomes interception to seal

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Speaker 2: it at the end with Terrell Bernard jumping in front

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Speaker 2: of a long.

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Speaker 3: Pass down the field.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones, though, as that is

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Speaker 2: game day mentality presented by Best Self Behavioral Health, and

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Speaker 2: we go to Milton in Buffalo. What's up, Milton, You're

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Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 10: Hey, what's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Not much?

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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I'll say this is a must win for

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Speaker 10: Buffalo because this is like the change under the guard

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Speaker 10: right here. You know what I'm saying. If you got

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Speaker 10: to beat the best, to beat the best, you know

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Speaker 10: what I mean. So you definitely have to win this

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00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 10: game because it's like a chess piece. You win this one,

881
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Speaker 10: you take them the three losses and they got two

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Speaker 10: hard games after that. Will it'd be nice to eliminate

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Speaker 10: Kansas City all together from the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, actually before losses Milton, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 10: And my second part is a question, I'm wondering, how

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Speaker 10: come we don't use Ki and Coman in the slot

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Speaker 10: or like using the motion plays, like having in the

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Speaker 10: slot so we could get open Like why are we

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Speaker 10: not kind of like utilizing anymore, like, you know, as

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Speaker 10: far as play.

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Speaker 3: Calls, Yeah, I hearriam Milton, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 2: We actually discussed that last week with Dan Orlovsky of

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Speaker 2: all people, who's going to be on a little bit later,

894
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Speaker 2: and he said he would be in favor of seeing

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Speaker 2: that happen. Coleman has a history of playing in the

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Speaker 2: slot from his days at Florida State and was very

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Speaker 2: successful in that alignment. But yeah, pre snap motion I

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Speaker 2: think could help him. Also, you want to stack receivers

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Speaker 2: at the line, that can help create some easier separation

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Speaker 2: for him. So yeah, we'll have to see what what

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Speaker 2: happens on that front in the coming weeks.

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Speaker 8: We have.

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Speaker 2: I will say this last week we saw him more

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Speaker 2: in condensed splits and condensed formations, so he was closer

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Speaker 2: to the down lineman, you know, on a on a

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Speaker 2: handful of plays. I do remember seeing that last week,

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Speaker 2: So let's see if it continues to expand in an

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Speaker 2: effort to help unlock him in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It it's concerning a little bit that both you, Milton,

910
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Speaker 1: and everybody else who talks about Keon says they need

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Speaker 1: to you know, they need to use him differently or

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Speaker 1: put him in better spots, or do this or that

913
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Speaker 1: or the other. Yeah, maybe they do. I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: using him in a way that they don't think he

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Speaker 1: can be successful. And also, if you're gonna put him

916
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Speaker 1: in the slot, that means somebody else is out of

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Speaker 1: the slot or dictates you've got two slots or whatever,

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Speaker 1: or somebody and somebody or somebody's got to sit down.

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Speaker 1: I think they like Khalil Shakir and Dalton Kinkaid inside

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Speaker 1: better than they like Keon. And Kinkaid and Khalil are

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Speaker 1: proven to be really good inside receivers. So why take

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Speaker 1: a really good inside receiver and put him someplace else

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Speaker 1: so that for some reason Keon can flourish. You already

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Speaker 1: got guys that are that will flourish in there if

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Speaker 1: you give them the opportunities, If you look at the

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Speaker 1: game this last weekend and you know Keon, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir was he.

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Speaker 3: Had six for eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: He had half over half of Josh's receiving yards.

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Speaker 1: Right, he had six six catches, but he also only

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Speaker 1: had seven targets. That's really efficient.

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Speaker 2: And he had the long well, He's always been a

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Speaker 2: high catch rate player, right.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, they're not gonna put him somewhere where

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Speaker 1: he won't be successful so that somebody else can be successful.

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Speaker 1: To see how it works. Keon will get what he

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Speaker 1: earns from the coaching staff. We've seen that and talked

938
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Speaker 1: about it at length for ever since Sean mcdermoty showed up.

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Speaker 1: You get what you you get what you earn, and

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Speaker 1: Keon right now has earned the targets he gets. He

941
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Speaker 1: had he had four targets, had three receptions, none of

942
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Speaker 1: them were really deep. He had have one crossing route

943
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Speaker 1: that he turned up the fields very nice. But I'm

944
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw a wrench into what they're doing

945
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Speaker 1: with Keon at all. I trust they know what they're doing.

946
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Speaker 1: And I know this too. When you tweak it for

947
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Speaker 1: one guy, somebody else is gonna pay the price.

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Speaker 3: For unintended consequences.

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Speaker 1: So that may be why they're hesitant. But there's some

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Speaker 1: guys in this office that are doing really good things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta take a break here.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll talk about that Bill's offense

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Speaker 2: a little bit more with the ESPN NFL analyst dan Orlovsky.

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Speaker 2: He joins us to start the second hour of the

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Speaker 2: show here on a Tuesday on One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 2: by Klida Health.

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Speaker 11: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Kaleida Health.

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Speaker 2: Hour number two on a Tuesday can mean only one thing.

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Speaker 2: It means we're joined by ESPN NFL analyst dan Or

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Speaker 2: A Loobski, whose appearances on One Bills Live are presented

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Speaker 2: by Caesar's Sportsbook, an official mobile sports betting partner of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. All right, Dan, so we'll quickly review

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Speaker 2: what was a thirty one point beat down of the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. Turnover is playing a huge role in that

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Speaker 2: the first multi takeaway game for the Bills on the

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Speaker 2: season after being experts at it last season with twelve

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Speaker 2: such games, turns into seventeen extra points, and those are

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Speaker 2: points they didn't even need you what stuck out because

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Speaker 2: you know, I know you watch film and your eyes

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Speaker 2: probably fall out of your head every week. But what

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Speaker 2: what was the lasting take from the performance this week?

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Speaker 2: And if it was on defense, that's fine, because they

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Speaker 2: kind of showed up too.

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Speaker 7: I think the overall things I walked away from were

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Speaker 7: just once again the importance of Reggie gilliam and how

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Speaker 7: impactful that he is to their run game. And you know,

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Speaker 7: there was certainly a mentality that we saw early on

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Speaker 7: of running the football and that was something that I

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Speaker 7: think all of us thought that there wasn't that thought

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Speaker 7: process or mentality in the Atlanta game two weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: So just that understanding and re establishment of this is

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Speaker 7: a major identity of who their football team is. I'm

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Speaker 7: not gonna kid everybody, like if I told you guys

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Speaker 7: right now, my phone is ringing and the bills we're

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Speaker 7: gonna run toss again, it would be accurate. They ran

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Speaker 7: toss and that was really it. I mean, they ran toss.

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Speaker 7: They ran a little bit outside z own and to

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Speaker 7: their credit and an issue Forair Carolina, they just could

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Speaker 7: not stop the toss. But you love the fact that

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Speaker 7: they got to it. Sometimes those two tied end ends,

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Speaker 7: sometimes with Gilliam as a tight end and alignment wise

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Speaker 7: or at that fullback. So I loved how they ran

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Speaker 7: the football and the re establishment of an identity for that,

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Speaker 7: I think that the other side of the football. I

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Speaker 7: know we didn't play a ton, but I was specifically

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Speaker 7: seeing what Harriston looked like. I thought he moved well.

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Speaker 7: I thought he was engaged. He tackled at least once

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Speaker 7: on the perimeter physically, So I think that you walk

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Speaker 7: away from that encouraged. I thought that they ran to

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Speaker 7: the football much better. Their run defense was much better,

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Speaker 7: you know, when it comes to the gap, and this

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Speaker 7: is a team that's been running football well Carolina, so

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Speaker 7: the gap being sound in the gap run game that

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Speaker 7: was really big. So those are the good, right, I

1006
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Speaker 7: think the takeaways that give me, you know, hesitation or

1007
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Speaker 7: concern or just to pay attention to. Josh did not

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Speaker 7: play well specifically in the first half. Did not handle

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Speaker 7: pressure well with the blitzes. Thought he made some poor reads,

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Speaker 7: thought he missed some throws uncharacteristically better in the second half. Yes,

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Speaker 7: and then obviously the two things on defense. Ed's injury

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Speaker 7: is real. And then if I was an offense, I

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Speaker 7: would be hunting the safeties and coverage about as every

1014
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Speaker 7: as often as I can. And so those are the

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Speaker 7: things that at least got my attention from a thirty

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Speaker 7: thousand foot view.

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Speaker 1: So the secondary with any you mentioned it, Max Harriston

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Speaker 1: in there and also with Handcock came in, made a

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Speaker 1: nice tackle on a breakaway from Dowdell. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: get younger a little bit more athletic back there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how much difference did it make, if any?

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Speaker 7: You know, I certainly think Hairston made a difference, Steve,

1023
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Speaker 7: I just don't think he played a ton in or

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Speaker 7: a lot, you know, So it's would you like to

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Speaker 7: have him on the field more? And I understand they're

1026
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Speaker 7: probably slowly working him in for the long ball. So

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Speaker 7: what you saw, I think what you saw you're encouraged about.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it made a quote unquote giant impact,

1029
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Speaker 7: But there's stuff there that you see at least in

1030
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Speaker 7: those snaps that he had, and you say that should

1031
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Speaker 7: be impactful, that can be impactful, that can help, you know.

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Speaker 7: I think Hancock, I don't know. I want to be honest,

1033
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Speaker 7: I don't know a ton about his game and everything

1034
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Speaker 7: that he's gonna bring. But I do see stuff on

1035
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Speaker 7: tape when the safety is at least and specific to coverage,

1036
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Speaker 7: they still give you reservation, They still give you hesitancy

1037
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Speaker 7: and trying to just be as candid as possible. From

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Speaker 7: an offensive perspective, those would be matchups, Those would be

1039
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Speaker 7: things that I would be hunting, and I promise you

1040
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Speaker 7: everybody else is going to right.

1041
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Speaker 2: And then last thing about last week's game, Michael Hoyd

1042
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Speaker 2: was a real shot in the arm for this team's

1043
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: pass rush. He was an absolute menace in that game. Granted,

1044
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Speaker 2: you're going against a backup quarterback who had not played

1045
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Speaker 2: a lot, and so maybe you know, you can take

1046
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Speaker 2: advantage of maybe his lack of timing, although he got

1047
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Speaker 2: all the reps in practice leading up to the game.

1048
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Speaker 2: But what did you make of him being a force

1049
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Speaker 2: multiplier for this pass rush?

1050
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Speaker 7: Huge? It's it's huge, and it's even greater now because

1051
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Speaker 7: of obviously the injury with Ed. You know, this is

1052
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Speaker 7: a team that structurally doesn't necessarily want to have bodies

1053
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Speaker 7: in the rush game. They would prefer to play with

1054
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Speaker 7: a four man rush or a fire zone rush. Commit

1055
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Speaker 7: to coverage, get you into those situations and allows those

1056
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Speaker 7: guys to win on rush edges. So it's I thought

1057
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Speaker 7: he was great. I mean, I've been a huge fan

1058
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Speaker 7: of his since his time in LA So he's an

1059
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Speaker 7: impactful rusher. Obviously, Epanessa with a huge play Bosa is

1060
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Speaker 7: going to be big, So you're encouraged. Again, That's an

1061
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Speaker 7: other thing. That's what I've tried to tell everybody, like

1062
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Speaker 7: just let's let's let's get these bodies on defense healthy

1063
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Speaker 7: till we make a declaration if the Bills are going

1064
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Speaker 7: to be what many people expected to be in the preseason, right, Like,

1065
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Speaker 7: let's get everyone healthier for the most part and then

1066
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Speaker 7: truly gauge what they are.

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Speaker 1: And coming into this game, they didn't know if they

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Speaker 1: were gonna have Kincaid until you know, a day or

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Speaker 1: so before the game or the day of the game,

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Speaker 1: and they and they have not been able to get

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Speaker 1: more and h Palmer and THE'SE got everybody you know

1072
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Speaker 1: healthy all at the same time. And I have made

1073
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Speaker 1: the point. I don't know if it's true or not,

1074
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Speaker 1: but you can tell me what you think this roster.

1075
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Speaker 1: Maybe other rosters are like this as well, but I

1076
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Speaker 1: think it's important for this roster to have all the

1077
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Speaker 1: guys on the outside really healthy and feeling good for

1078
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Speaker 1: this offense to look like it should, particularly when they

1079
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Speaker 1: throw the football when they once they start, you know,

1080
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Speaker 1: Palmer out more in and out of the lineup, Kincaid

1081
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Speaker 1: in and out of the lineup. It causes real problems.

1082
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Steve, I'd say this past game wise, I don't

1083
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 7: think it's even a question. The three most important parts

1084
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 7: to their past game on the outside are Palmer, Kincaid,

1085
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 7: and Shakir. I'm not I don't think I'm you know,

1086
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 7: revealing any crazy information and a lot of people yes,

1087
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 7: kiin Kaid and Shakira. I think Palmer's huge, I really do.

1088
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 7: We are just at a time with this offense that

1089
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 7: they have to have somebody on the outside that is

1090
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 7: consistent with creating big plays, consistent in winning one on ones,

1091
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 7: consistent with vertical speed, consistent with chunk gains. That's not Khalil.

1092
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 7: He's outstanding as a football player, that's just not his game,

1093
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 7: and Kinkaid brings that. But we know that it's a

1094
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 7: tight end and there's a there's a little bit of

1095
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 7: availability attached unavailability attached to him right now, and so

1096
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 7: Palmer for me, and I know he didn't play last week.

1097
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 7: He's enormous and that's why I walk away a week

1098
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 7: or so from trade deadline, and I still feel that

1099
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 7: this is a team that at least I would expect

1100
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 7: Brandan Bean to be active on the phones when it

1101
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 7: comes to a wide receiver edition because I just think

1102
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 7: at some point that really trifected that third piece one

1103
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 7: on one is gonna be huge. And I don't know

1104
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 7: what Palmer's long term health prognosis is.

1105
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Coach McDermot said he's kind of day to day

1106
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: this week, so we'll see where that goes through the

1107
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: course of the practice week. On to the Chiefs here,

1108
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: who are coming in as hot as a firecracker, winner

1109
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: of five or the last six since Week seven. They

1110
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: lead the league in point differential after waxing the Raiders

1111
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: and went in by twenty one last night. They're a

1112
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: plus fifty two and their defense is top five in

1113
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: the league. So a lot of boxes to check to

1114
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: handle this crew, and the Bills largely handed them their

1115
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: first loss last year thanks mainly to the two takeaways

1116
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: they had, you know, the early interception by Hamlin and

1117
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: then the one at the end of the game to

1118
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 2: ice it, you know, against with the Bernard interception on

1119
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: a late heave by Mahomes. I tend to feel like

1120
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 2: this has to be a multi takeaway game again.

1121
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 3: If the Bills are going to beat the Chiefs. But

1122
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: here's the other part of it.

1123
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: We saw resurgence of Buffalo's pass rush this past week.

1124
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: We know that the left tackle is still a blinking

1125
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 2: red light for the Chiefs. How much can this pass

1126
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: rush do you think? And it's only a one game sample,

1127
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: I realize it, but how critical is it for them

1128
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: to help some of those less than ideal matchups on

1129
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: the back end that you already pointed out.

1130
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 7: There's three huge key matchups or points in this game,

1131
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 7: and that's the first one, because I think the thing

1132
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 7: that has to be most concerning for Bills fans and

1133
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 7: honestly for everybody in a See if you've just watched

1134
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 7: Mahomes this year, he looks like Mahomes from four or

1135
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 7: five years ago, where the I call plus plus plays

1136
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 7: they're showing up in bunches right now, where when the

1137
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 7: rush wins, or you feel like you've caged him in,

1138
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 7: or you feel like the coverage was ideal, indoor perfect.

1139
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 7: He's back to making those what just happened plays and

1140
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 7: everybody knows squeaks Buffalo's quarterback does it right. He's back

1141
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 7: to making those unbelievable run around defy the laws of

1142
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 7: physics that should not happen plays. And so the pass

1143
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 7: rush is going to be enormous because Patrick looks as

1144
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 7: creative and elusive back there as he has looked and

1145
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 7: I would say two or three seasons, and that's saying

1146
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 7: a lot. So I think it's going to be huge.

1147
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 7: I think the second thing is, you know in this game,

1148
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 7: and I'll flip it to the other side, Chris, like

1149
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 7: I think the tight ends are enormous in this game.

1150
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 7: I think the play action pass with the tight ends

1151
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 7: are enormous. This is a good defense in Kansas City.

1152
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 7: Pass rush hasn't been great, but you can get some

1153
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 7: chunk throws against this defense with those two tight ends

1154
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 7: and play action game. And I think the second thing

1155
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 7: is the RPO game's got to be huge. You can

1156
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 7: kick the ball out into the alley towards the numbers

1157
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 7: or outside and make some plays on his defense. So

1158
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 7: those are the three things for me that are enormous

1159
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 7: in this game.

1160
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: And then just quickly because Andy Reid just seems to

1161
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: do this better than anybody. I'm just amazed at how

1162
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: he's able to consistently create voids in a defense for

1163
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: just a single target to fill out on the field,

1164
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: whether you know, whether it's you know, deep out or

1165
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: middle of the field, and it's not just a simple clearout.

1166
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: It's much more layered than that. Why is that seemingly

1167
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: so easy for him to draw up? I mean, I

1168
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: realize he's got one of the fastest receiving cores in

1169
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: the league, but the multi layer ways in which he

1170
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: creates voids and defenses for receivers to run into and

1171
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: they've got ten, there's a space in every direction around them.

1172
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: It's just amazing to me.

1173
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's two reasons why, because it's a great question. Okay,

1174
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 7: So Number one, Andy Reid is he's always been great

1175
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 7: at math. It's always been a math equation for him.

1176
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 7: He knows that he has really ten to work with

1177
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 7: and you have eleven. So he's always trying to figure

1178
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 7: out numbers to impact you. Whether they're trying to overload

1179
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 7: one side of the ball and see if you commit

1180
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 7: an overload to that, or if you don't, they'll take

1181
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 7: advantage of it. If you do. They have so many

1182
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 7: different people that on the opposite side of a overload

1183
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 7: they could take advantage of. It's very similar to what

1184
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 7: and Buffalo's runned a little bit this year four by one,

1185
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 7: but kind of what was so prevalent for you guys

1186
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 7: last year was you are you Are you committing numbers

1187
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 7: to that four person side? Great, then we'll work the

1188
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 7: one on one if you are. If you're not, then

1189
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 7: we work our four man. So that's number one. He's

1190
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 7: just great in the in the numbers game. And I

1191
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 7: think the second thing is when they're healthy, and they

1192
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 7: have been for the last two or three weeks, you

1193
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 7: got to think about it like this, Chris Okay, starting

1194
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 7: point is Kelsey, who do we want around them, whether

1195
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 7: it's zone or man. Who do you want a round them?

1196
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 12: Like?

1197
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 7: Who do you trust to be around them in the

1198
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 7: past game? And then you move to Rashi Rice, Well,

1199
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 7: who do you feel good about that matchup with? Because

1200
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 7: Rashi is strong? Not only is he fast, but strong,

1201
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 7: So you got to have somebody that matches. Don't care

1202
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 7: manner zone, just strength wise. And then you go down

1203
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 7: to a player like Xavier Worthy, who's fast enough to

1204
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 7: run with them, who's twitchy enough to run with them,

1205
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 7: who can handle him in space? And then you go

1206
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 7: to a player like Hollywood who's vertically fast as well.

1207
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 7: So you're constantly asking these questions to defenses or as

1208
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 7: a defense of like, okay, we're not even calling man,

1209
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 7: but who do we want around these guys with where

1210
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 7: they are? And that's why you grate some of those voids.

1211
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's and that's really the problem when you

1212
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: face the Chiefs. I mean, they've got, like you said,

1213
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: Rashid Rice, Hollywood, Brown, Xavier Worthy, Travis Kelcey. Now, Pachecko

1214
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: looks like he may probably will not play this week's

1215
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: Week to Week with a with an MCL. He didn't

1216
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: play in last year's matchup either. But how much with

1217
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: the weapons we just talked about, we've seen it. I mean,

1218
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: it seems like it's not true, but it seems like

1219
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City throws it on every down. But Pachecko has

1220
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: been a factor, right, I mean, so, oh, sure, what's

1221
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: his minus bring to the table for their offense?

1222
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, Steve, I'll tell you the best thing, or one

1223
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 7: of the best things they've done this year is actually okay.

1224
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 7: They've gotten under center a little bit, and they've put

1225
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 7: two tight ends on the field. Sometimes they've had six

1226
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 7: offensive linemen on the field, and they've just tried to

1227
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 7: be efficient in their run game. That's the thing that

1228
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 7: also has massively turned the corner for the offense is

1229
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 7: just efficient run. Efficient run, and so Pachecko brings that,

1230
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 7: you know, he brings that willingness to go it three

1231
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 7: or four yards. Kareem Hunt still can do that.

1232
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1233
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 7: They have this rookie Burchard Smith who's also a very

1234
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 7: good player. He's not as violent or physical or grind

1235
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 7: me I guess is Pacheco, but he's really smooth and

1236
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 7: he's really shifty. So if no Pacheco, do I believe

1237
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 7: that there's this considerable drop off, I don't, you know,

1238
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 7: And that's not disrespectful. Kareem's still really good and Burshard's

1239
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 7: a guy that they've tried to get more touches on

1240
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 7: more and more. He'll remind at least Bills fans of

1241
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 7: a guy Jet McKinnon from years ago, and just skill

1242
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 7: set in the way that they use him.

1243
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he's a fast guy. SMU I think

1244
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 2: is where he came out of seventh round pick. He's

1245
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: he can fly. So just what we need? More speed

1246
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 2: on the field for the Chiefs. Wonderful anything really quick here, Dan,

1247
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: That sticks out to you about this defensive front for

1248
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,479
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. You mentioned that you know their pass rush

1249
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: hasn't been getting home as much as.

1250
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 3: It usually does.

1251
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: Karloft had a nice game last night, But what do

1252
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: you see there and what do you think the hang

1253
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: up might be? Because I know they got a mena

1254
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: who back from his ACL injury from last year, so

1255
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 2: he's back in the fold. I saw they lost Omar

1256
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: Norman lot to a season ending injury a couple of

1257
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: weeks back. But what's going on with the front seven there?

1258
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 7: They just haven't been nearly as dominant. They haven't been

1259
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 7: winning their one on ones. They their pressure package is

1260
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 7: still there. You know that that is going to be

1261
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 7: a huge talking point moving forward, is just handle the

1262
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 7: presser pressure package. But they're just not Chris is not

1263
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 7: nearly as dominant right now as he has been in

1264
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 7: the past. Is he capable of it? I would imagine

1265
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 7: does he have another run in him? I would absolutely imagine.

1266
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 7: He just hasn't been as dominant of a player, and

1267
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 7: I can't pinpoint exactly the why. I just know that

1268
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 7: him and Karloftis haven't been whether it's individual dominance or

1269
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 7: duo together, they haven't been the impactful rushers they been

1270
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 7: in the past. So you know, I would be not surprised.

1271
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 7: I would not be surprised if this is a game

1272
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 7: where you know they throughout it. I just talked about

1273
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 7: James and his importance. You know, Josh be be very

1274
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 7: aggressive throwing the football because this pass rush just hasn't

1275
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 7: hunted the way it has in the past.

1276
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: What has Spagnola done to kind of overc composite that

1277
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: they're the number one? I mean they're they're bringing extra people.

1278
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: I mean, what are they doing?

1279
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 7: Because you know it's crazy pressures. You know, it's it's

1280
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 7: those exotic pressures, you getting cut splits. Here comes corner blitz.

1281
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 7: The backers are blitzing at a really high level. Both

1282
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 7: Bolten and Trenk will so McDuffie's a weapon. Everyone knows that.

1283
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 7: So it's it's still spags and using those crazy blitzes.

1284
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 7: It's just the defensive line is not dominating right now

1285
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 7: what it has been.

1286
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: Have you noticed anything, and we've we've talked about a

1287
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: little bit and we saw, you know, Josh had a

1288
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: rough first half against Carolina despite the fact that they

1289
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: were way up. I mean, have they struggled in Buffalo

1290
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: with their offensive line to get their protection set because

1291
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: it seems like there's been a couple of times, particularly

1292
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: against Atlanta and a little bit against the Patriots, where

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Speaker 1: they you know, they had a free runner because they

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01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: set their protection to the wrong side. I don't know

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01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: if that happens to other offenses on a regular basis,

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Speaker 1: maybe once or twice a game. I don't know, maybe

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01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: it does, but it seems like the Bills have been

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01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: victims of that a lot over the last three or

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Speaker 1: four weeks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, identifications become a thing. It shows a little bit

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01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 7: more on the road than it does at home. I'm

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Speaker 7: a believer who thinks that this is a must win

1303
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,919
Speaker 7: game because of that. I think I think if Super

1304
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 7: Bowl is very real, it's got to be going through Buffalo,

1305
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 7: just in part because of that reason. Steve, you know,

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01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 7: it's this is an offense that wants to utilize information

1307
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 7: pre snap, specifically in those passing downs, and figure out

1308
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 7: who's coming, who's not who's covering who isn't, And so

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Speaker 7: I think that identifications become a big deal. Communication and

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01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 7: strain has become a big deal as well, And so

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Speaker 7: I also think and I love Josh, everyone knows that.

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Speaker 7: I think he's played very frustrated over the last two

1313
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Speaker 7: or three games and forcing the football in moments where

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Speaker 7: you know he hasn't for the last two or three years.

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Speaker 7: So specific to him, I also think that's something that

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Speaker 7: he has to clean up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then real quick before we let you go, Dan,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, you know, pre snap identification and how important

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01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: that is we're seeing. I don't know if it's a

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01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 2: full on trend yet. You watch more football than I do,

1321
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 2: but it seems as though there are some defensive coordinators

1322
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 2: now that will have a defender follow a receiver in

1323
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: motion across the formation to give the appearance of man

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Speaker 2: and then they're not.

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Speaker 3: They end up playing zone.

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Speaker 2: How much of a trend is that amongst defensive coordinators now?

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Speaker 7: It's as common as anything going right now. I mean

1328
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 7: that five six years ago that was never the case,

1329
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 7: never ever ever the case. And so nowadays, when you

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Speaker 7: see that guy go across the formation and someone runs

1331
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 7: with them, a lot of times you'll see a secondary

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01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 7: motion as well to try and you know, confirm or deny,

1333
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 7: because once he with them, there's really not a tell anymore.

1334
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,799
Speaker 7: And so that's really where those pieces come into play,

1335
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 7: the backs and the tight ends for that information rather

1336
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 7: than the motion. But you can still use that motion

1337
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 7: to identify pressure because you go that way, no one

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01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 7: goes with you. I'm thinking pressure, and so I think

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Speaker 7: that's a little bit more of a tell than coverage.

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Speaker 1: So I told this to Brownie in the first opening

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01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: segment of the show, and then we had Mitch Morris,

1342
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: former center of the Bills on He kind of said

1343
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: the same thing. If the Bills want to win this,

1344
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: I think they're going to have to score, score, score.

1345
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Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be one of those games

1346
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: where you got to keep up with them on the

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01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: scoreboard and vice versa. I could be wrong, but how

1348
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Speaker 1: do you see it playing out?

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Speaker 7: I totally agree, And I know we're not even in

1350
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 7: November yet, We're a week away from being halfway through

1351
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 7: the regular season. That's going to be the case into

1352
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 7: the playoffs and through the playoffs. I mean I got

1353
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 7: a pretty good feel of who the playoff teams are

1354
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 7: going to be and if they are who I think

1355
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 7: they're gonna be the top three or four, you're gonna

1356
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 7: have to score thirty two plus to beat him. When

1357
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 7: it matters the most, you're just going to So if

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01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 7: you're gonna play Indie, if you're gonna play Kansas City,

1359
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 7: if you're gonna play Pittsburgh, if you're gonna play La,

1360
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 7: if you're gonna play Denver, you're gonna have to score

1361
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 7: thirty two plus to knock him off. And that's no

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01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 7: different this week.

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Speaker 2: Right, Thanks as always, Dan, appreciate it. We'll catch up

1364
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Speaker 2: with you next week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Dan.

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01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 7: All right, guys, thank you.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: That's ESPN NFL analyst Dan or Alofski taking a few

1369
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: bonus questions from us this week.

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Speaker 3: I gotta talk to him for an hour.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's crazy because you know, for the longest time,

1372
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: we were always told, you know, guy goes in motion

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 2: and he follows.

1374
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Speaker 3: Oh it's man.

1375
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 2: And now these defensive coordinators are like, yeah, go follow him,

1376
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: but we're gonna still play zone behind it anyway and

1377
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: mess him up, right, And that is super common now

1378
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: because the defensive coordinators got to a point where like, well, dang.

1379
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm not giving away the store just because they motion

1380
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: a guy and I tell him what we're running. So

1381
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 2: they've come up with alternatives for that. Now and the

1382
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: cat and mouse game continue.

1383
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1384
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but we're gonna

1385
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: get right back to the phones when we returns. If

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01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: you're holding an eighth three oh five to fifty, we'll

1387
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 2: get to you when we get back here. On one

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, stay with us. I'm not to recognize the

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Speaker 2: high school football Crew of the Month four September Special

1390
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Speaker 2: shout out to the officiating crew with one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty four combined years of officiating. Don Tremont, Robert Vanconette,

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Speaker 2: Tom Steiner, Dan Salmon, and Brian finn All from the

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Speaker 2: Watertown Chapter. Good job throwing the flags, fellas, so congrats

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Speaker 2: to them. We got to get back to the phones.

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01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: At a three five fifty, I'm trying to I'm trying

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: to figure some snide remark to make about officiame I

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Speaker 1: just did.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna good job throwing the flags. Let's get

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Speaker 3: back to the phones though.

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Speaker 2: At eight oh three h five fifty one eighty eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty as we are asking you

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Speaker 2: today what does a regular season matchup with the Chiefs

1403
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: mean to you? Maybe it's changed over the years, so

1404
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: you let us know where you stand on that. And

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,839
Speaker 2: we go to Christopher in Buffalo. What's up, Christopher?

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 13: Yeah, I I've got to tell you, any time Kansas

1407
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 13: City loses, it's a it's a beautiful day for me.

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01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 13: And it is an important matchup from that standpoint. And uh,

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01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 13: uh what Steve was saying and you were saying about, uh,

1410
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 13: the win lofts and I want I want Kansas City

1411
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 13: to lose as many games as possible. And I felt

1412
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 13: much better about the Bills with the guys that came

1413
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,520
Speaker 13: in to help out on defense that had been suspended.

1414
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 13: And I'd like to see Josh Allen be Josh Allen.

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 13: And I don't know why this under handed passed And

1416
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 13: maybe some people think that's affected, but I think of

1417
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 13: Patrick Mahomes doing that, and uh, to me, Josh is

1418
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 13: is a traditional pass rower and and nobody can put

1419
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 13: it in there any better than he can. And and

1420
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Speaker 13: I think with all the running that we're doing, I

1421
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 13: think I think I can really throw a person's timing off,

1422
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 13: especially if you have two runs. And again, the running

1423
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 13: was fantastic last game, but what what the if they're

1424
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 13: stopping the run and uh, and you do two running

1425
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 13: plays and they're stopped, and then Josh hasn't had a

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01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 13: chance to throw ball. And usually you know, like I say,

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Speaker 13: it's just it's it's it's getting the flow and uh,

1428
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:49,879
Speaker 13: and I I have I have a real good feeling

1429
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 13: that we're going to take Kansas City down. And part

1430
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 13: of the deal is is not to let Kansas City

1431
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 13: get more credit in your head than they deserve. And

1432
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Speaker 13: I've been on running team and uh, we had a

1433
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 13: team that won every freaking year. It was just and

1434
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 13: they and they got all the best players because people

1435
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 13: knew that their school had a championship year the year before.

1436
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 13: And as soon as that gets in your head, uh,

1437
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 13: and you get into a big game and you start

1438
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 13: doubting yourself and you're playing to stop Patrick Mahomes. Uh,

1439
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 13: You're you're basically giving up what you got to give.

1440
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 13: And I think I think we got more than Patrick Mahomes.

1441
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 13: I think we got Josh Allen and a lot of

1442
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 13: guys that have a lot of heart. And if I

1443
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 13: think if we focus on and just playing our games,

1444
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 13: I'm not saying they don't do your best to stop them,

1445
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 13: but uh, you know, I think, uh the Super Bowl

1446
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 13: was a prime example. Yep, they got in his face,

1447
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 13: they ran them down. I just I was I was ecstatic,

1448
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 13: and I just thought it was terrific and I showed

1449
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 13: the league that these guys can be brutally beaten. And

1450
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 13: I think Washington, I mean I fell after the first

1451
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 13: half and I greened the Washington won but didn't end

1452
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 13: up that way. But they really played their hearts out

1453
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 13: in that first half, and they really contained Patrick Mahomes.

1454
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: All Right, thanks Christopher, Okay, Chris, appreciate it. Get what

1455
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: you're getting at. Of course, the Philadelphia Eagles focused squarely

1456
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: on Patrick Mahomes and what he can do and decided

1457
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: to take him down with a.

1458
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: Vociferous pass rush.

1459
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: So I think the Bills are going to have to

1460
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: duplicate that that their pass rush is going to have

1461
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: to be on fire on Sunday afternoon, because, like I

1462
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: think Max Harrison being back, that's great. You got somebody

1463
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: that can run with Xavier Worthy all day. You could

1464
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: just say, go cover that guy the whole day. I

1465
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: don't even need to know the game plan, just go

1466
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 2: cover that guy.

1467
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 3: He can do that.

1468
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 2: You can put Benford on the physical Rashi Rice, I

1469
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 2: don't know that you have a great answer for Kelsey.

1470
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: And then they still have Hollywood Brown. So very quickly

1471
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: you get a point, get to a point where you're like,

1472
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if we can cover all the bases. Well,

1473
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 2: so let's just knock Mahomes on the ground.

1474
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: Right, And you know, Christopher said it, there is something

1475
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: to be said for how that game went last week,

1476
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 1: although the first half is really that kind of takes

1477
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: the excuse away because you know, we thought, you know,

1478
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: Josh itself admittedly didn't play well in the first half,

1479
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: and you know, they they ran the ball some, but

1480
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: they tried to throw it a little bit in the

1481
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: first half and they were what you call it rusty

1482
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: because they couldn't get into a rhythm. I think you

1483
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 1: can give I don't know that it was the run

1484
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: game getting in the way of the passing game that

1485
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: didn't let it get on track, you know where they're

1486
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: kept handing it off and it was so successful they

1487
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: did it again and again and again, and so you know,

1488
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: finally after a while, you dropped back once and now

1489
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: it's your first or second drop back of the game

1490
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: and you're you know you haven't and you're deep into

1491
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: the game, right, I mean, you just stop throwing it

1492
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: so you don't feel like he got into a rhythm

1493
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: with the passing game. Be some of that in there,

1494
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: but I think I think there is something more to

1495
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: it than that. I think, you know, Josh admitted that

1496
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: it was that way, and well, I think that can happen.

1497
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 1: I think in a game like this coming up, I

1498
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get plenty of opportunities to throw the football.

1499
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 1: So I don't think you're going to have that excuse

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01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 1: that excuse.

1501
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to Jim and Florida next. What's up, Jim?

1502
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 6: Oh, good, Good afternoon, gentlemen. I was so excited last

1503
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 6: week when our defense line put so much pressure on

1504
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 6: their quarterback. The game before that, I was very upset

1505
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 6: that Josh didn't seem to have any time to pass,

1506
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 6: and I've never seen him be sacked by three people

1507
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 6: at once. How that even happened With our good offensive

1508
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 6: line and my feeling you guys just kind of touched

1509
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 6: on it. If we could put a pass rush put

1510
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 6: pressure on my homes, I think we will win. And

1511
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 6: just like the Super Bowl. You mentioned the reason that

1512
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 6: Casey lost that was because they were able to put

1513
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 6: all kinds of rush yep on him. And I think

1514
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 6: that's a key. That's what we really need to do.

1515
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 6: And if you look back at the thirteen second game

1516
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,879
Speaker 6: that we lost, what happened when our defense we decided

1517
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 6: to rush three people and bring everybody back, Well, that

1518
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 6: just gave him all the time in the world to

1519
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 6: complete pass at the past and tie that game in

1520
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 6: thirteen seconds. And they think that was the reason we

1521
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 6: lost that game. I think you got to. I think

1522
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 6: the key in the NFL is you've got to put

1523
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 6: pressure on a quarterback. No quarterback can throw the ball

1524
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 6: with somebody in their face. And you guys mentioned Sean

1525
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 6: Payton the other day. An interesting story. My son, who

1526
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 6: was a ball boy the name of Jim back probably

1527
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 6: when Steve was playing there. And uh, he went, he

1528
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 6: went to Indiana State and played the quarterback and I

1529
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 6: guess it was his quarterback coach who was Sean Payton.

1530
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 6: And my son U said, tell me time he talked

1531
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 6: to me. He said, I can't stand that guy. He

1532
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 6: never said anything nice to you. And uh, and then

1533
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 6: he said the only for the only time that he

1534
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 6: was coaching me. He said something nice. Look after I

1535
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 6: blocked the field goal to win the game, I guess

1536
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 6: Western Kentucky.

1537
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 3: Well there you go.

1538
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 6: All right, you remember Jim the ball boy, but Hatford

1539
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 6: on your state.

1540
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Jim, awesome, appreciate it.

1541
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 3: Jim.

1542
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about the pass pressure. It was impressive

1543
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: last week. The question now is can they do it again?

1544
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 2: And look, you can't tell me Brandon Bean didn't look

1545
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl and what worked against the Chiefs

1546
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 2: and didn't say, I got to get some more of

1547
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,919
Speaker 2: that for our team. And then he signs three free agents,

1548
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 2: two of whom are Michael Hoyt and Joey Bosa, and

1549
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: then drafts three defensive linemen and tell me he wasn't

1550
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: thinking about that.

1551
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the.

1552
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 2: Most it's the singular greatest position group. Addition, this offseason,

1553
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: defensive line six new guys. Now, unfortunately two of one

1554
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: of them's on I R. T. J. Sanders, another one's

1555
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 2: probably headed there at Oliver. But you have Hoyt back,

1556
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: and he, along with Rousseau and Bosa, I think can

1557
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: really cause some problems.

1558
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 3: So hopefully that's the case.

1559
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: People forget it, you know that being watching the same

1560
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: games we do and studies him. He drafted a corner,

1561
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: then a defensive tackle, then an edge, then a defensive tackle,

1562
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: then a corner, then a tight end, then another corner.

1563
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: Brandon knows where the needs are and then he'd try

1564
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: and he did his best to fill him and and

1565
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: it looked like and it looks like for a minute,

1566
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: he might have three pretty good or more than that,

1567
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: pretty good contributors. We don't know what the story is

1568
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: gonna be with t J. Sanders, but Max looks to

1569
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 1: be from what we've seen that it's limited, but the

1570
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: guy's an NFL corner. Dion Walker is getting better every week.

1571
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Hancock is getting playing time now. Dorian Strong was

1572
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: starting to get worked into the rotation to play early

1573
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,759
Speaker 1: in the season before his shoulder injury and neck injury.

1574
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: That's right, So most of those draft picks are fighting

1575
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: to get Jackson Hawes is up in active, So most

1576
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: of those guys are fighting for, you know, just more

1577
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: playing time and to get on the field. And most

1578
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: of them are getting in that direction when they're healthy.

1579
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: So it's uh, yeah, I think it's obvious. Brandon Bean

1580
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: sees things a lot of the same way Bills fans

1581
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: do sometimes, and they don't think he does because he

1582
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: doesn't do the trade that they want him to do.

1583
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: You know, you're not gonna trade for OJ You're not

1584
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: going to trade for Trent McDuffie and get it for

1585
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick. It just doesn't happen.

1586
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 3: Let's go to Liz in Buffalo next.

1587
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 11: What's up, Liz, Hi, guys, how are you good.

1588
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 9: I have just one thought about this upcoming game. I

1589
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 9: believe it's all psychological, and I just want to see

1590
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 9: our team take the Casey Chiefs and kick their cans

1591
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 9: to the curve for change. And I just say to

1592
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 9: the team, just be you and go Bills.

1593
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 3: All right, fair enough, short and sweet, Liz, thanks very much.

1594
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: Hard to disagree with that, because a lot of times

1595
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: we are the coaches say, we focus on what we

1596
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: need to do more than the opponent. Yes, you prepare

1597
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: for the opponent, and you get ready for their tendencies,

1598
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 2: their plays, their formations, all that stuff, but you'll largely

1599
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: focus on what you have to execute to win the

1600
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 2: football game.

1601
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 3: Let's go to Dan in Rochester next. You punch him

1602
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 3: up here. What do you got for us? Dan?

1603
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 14: You that one for Steve too. I'm recovering from a

1604
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 14: knee surgery myself. Hey, Steve, my piscocal therapist is from

1605
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 14: Kansas Or for my knee surgery. Very nice, and Christ

1606
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 14: this is for you. I hate Kansas City. I hope

1607
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 14: they bowl him out in the water.

1608
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 3: Okay.

1609
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 14: I hope Taylor Swiss there too, so she can give

1610
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 14: a hog what's his name? I can't stand Kansas City.

1611
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 14: I can't stand him. Thank you?

1612
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: All right?

1613
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us how you really feel, Dan, Dan, don't

1614
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 2: sugarcoat it, my goodness.

1615
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan's ready to put a helmet on. It's Tuesday,

1616
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 3: going after guys girlfriends. For Christ, I know, no mercy there.

1617
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 3: He wants.

1618
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 2: He wants Taylor to give Kelsey a hug after what

1619
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 2: he's hoping is a colossal loss. So okay, I'll listen

1620
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 2: to that. Let's go to Tom in Rochester next. What's

1621
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: up Tom.

1622
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 12: I'll try to get this back on track. I was

1623
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 12: just in Charlotte, uh, coming back yesterday in the Red Eye.

1624
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 12: I think this is a statement game for two reasons,

1625
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 12: the way Kansas City is playing, and also because New

1626
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 12: England has a very easy schedule, and we have to

1627
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 12: keep pace with New England, and not only doing that,

1628
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 12: we got to send a message not only to ourselves

1629
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 12: but to Kansas City that we are for real and

1630
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 12: we're gonna be around. And I just think it'd be

1631
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 12: a very positive thing for us to win this game,

1632
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 12: feel positive about ourselves and also tell Kansas City, hold

1633
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 12: on a second, we're so buffalo. We're still in this

1634
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 12: if not gonna be that easy.

1635
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting perspective, Steve, because the last several

1636
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 2: years it's been, Hey, we want to show Kansas City

1637
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: for the first time in a long time. You got

1638
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 2: to show somebody in your division too, because you're looking

1639
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 2: up at them right.

1640
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 1: Now, and I think you're a little bit on the

1641
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: point that Kansas City is the point where they want

1642
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: to show people. That hasn't been the.

1643
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 3: Case because they have competition in their division too.

1644
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: They were eleven to zero coming in here. Last year.

1645
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: They had nothing to prove. They had their margin of

1646
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: error was nonexistent. I mean they had any margin of error.

1647
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: It was as big as it could be, So they

1648
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to prove. But this year they might

1649
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: have a little bit more of a chip on their shoulder.

1650
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: And let's face it, this game would do a lot

1651
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: for the national voice or national narrative about what Buffalo

1652
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: and who Buffalo is is a football team, because it's

1653
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: against Kansas City, and because it does seem to be

1654
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: a really tough win. The Bills aren't favored in this game.

1655
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: There you go. So that's that's why it would mean

1656
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 1: a lot, because nobody thinks they can do it.

1657
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, yeah, I don't think if it gets much

1658
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: simpler than that. Gotta take a break here, one final

1659
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 2: segment to go. We'll see what some of the thoughts

1660
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 2: are on the tweets sheet when we return here on

1661
01:25:53,080 --> 01:26:13,440
Speaker 2: One Bills Live presented by Kilida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1662
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 3: Time.

1663
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: Now for this week's Coach of the Week, presented by

1664
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,480
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1665
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 3: For Week eight.

1666
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: In Section six, it's Chuck Nagel from Newfane after he

1667
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: led his Panthers to a forty six to twenty five

1668
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 2: win over Wilson in the regular season finale. The win

1669
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 2: gave Newfane the Class D title, finishing the season at

1670
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: eight to zero for the first time since nineteen ninety three.

1671
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: In Section five Avons. Andy Englert takes home this week's

1672
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: honor after his team's big fifty two to twenty two

1673
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 2: win over Oakfield Alabama ELBA, bringing them to six and

1674
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: two on the season. Each coach will receive one thousand

1675
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 2: dollars for their program.

1676
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 3: Congratulations.

1677
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 2: Let's go to the tweet sheet, brought to you by

1678
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,240
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1679
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 2: bill Let's get some final thoughts on what this regular

1680
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: season game against the Chiefs means to you. Rick says,

1681
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 2: home game round one on the line, no matter the o.

1682
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 2: Connor says, nothing more than an opportunity for the Bills

1683
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 2: to go up against the premier NFL team. Yes, the

1684
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 2: win loss will matter in the standings, but the only

1685
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 2: time it truly matters with KC is in the playoffs.

1686
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: This is a chance to see if the defense that

1687
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 2: showed up in Carolina is for real. And Steve says

1688
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: it always has an impact on the number one seed,

1689
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: but in the big picture, a playoff win against them

1690
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 2: is the only thing that matters. This is some of

1691
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 2: the responses I was anticipating, Steve, because for the last

1692
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: three years they've beaten them in the regular season only

1693
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: to lose to them in the playoffs, and people are

1694
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 2: tired of that scenario playing out. I just want to

1695
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 2: remind everybody those two things are mutually exclusive. Yeah, they're

1696
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 2: not tied together.

1697
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: That's right.

1698
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 2: And if you're tired of watching the Chiefs get the

1699
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: one seed in the AFC, you want nothing more than

1700
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 2: to hand them a fourth loss going into their buy.

1701
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: They haven't had four losses in like ten years in

1702
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: a season.

1703
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm torn about this. Certainly, you want to win this game.

1704
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: You've got to win this game. And there's nothing that

1705
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 1: says it's gonna be different this year that if you

1706
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: lose in the regular season're gonna beat him in the playoffs.

1707
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: This Bills team has had the Chiefs on the ropes

1708
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: plenty of times, even in the playoffs. The thirteen second

1709
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: game is notorious. Bills fans will live with that for

1710
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: a long time. So was Sean McDermott is staff. But

1711
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: last year you look at the same thing. Josh throws

1712
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: that ball and it doinks off your most reliable receiver

1713
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: in Dalton kin Kaid's face mask. He can't cat he

1714
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: can't pull it in because he's not one hundred percent healthy,

1715
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: and it was a tough catch, but one you would

1716
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: think he's gonna make ninety nine times out of one hundred.

1717
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: And then of course the fourth down spot on the

1718
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: quarterback sneak, which two officials run in saying he got

1719
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: and they decide, no, he didn't get. That has nothing

1720
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 1: to do with rosters and defenses and offenses and philosophies

1721
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 1: and this. It has to do with what happens in

1722
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: that game. And it's the same mind. People are gonna

1723
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: roll their eyes at this old man saying it, but

1724
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: you gotta play well on that day, amen, this is

1725
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: one of those days. It'd be nice if the Bill's

1726
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: played well. If they do, they'll win. If they don't,

1727
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: they gotta play well. They gotta play better than the Chiefs.

1728
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 2: We'll see and believe me, I know that the Chiefs

1729
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: had six losses in twenty twenty three, finished eleven and six.

1730
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 2: The Bills had the higher seed, and they still beat

1731
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 2: the Bills here in the divisional playoff round. It just

1732
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: feels like they haven't lost this much in a long time.

1733
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 2: We're back on the air tomorrow at one players back

1734
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 2: on the practice field.

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01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: We'll have full coverage