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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by called Lida Health.

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Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody? Happy Tuesday?

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Speaker 3: Welcome into One Bill's Live. Mighty glab alongside of Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 3: filling in for Chris Brown, who's taking the next few

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Speaker 3: days office. He deserves to do so since Chris Brown.

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Speaker 1: Killed it in.

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Speaker 3: The NFL scouting combined. This is our second show back

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Speaker 3: from being on the road. It's nice to get nice

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Speaker 3: to get out of Buffalo and do some traveling in

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Speaker 3: the off season, as a lot of us do. But

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Speaker 3: now we're back in studio because it is about to

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Speaker 3: get busy, busy, busy up in here. March fifth is

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Speaker 3: your date today. That means teams have till four o'clock

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Speaker 3: today to tag players place the franchise tag on a player.

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Speaker 3: That deadline four o'clock today to do so. And we

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Speaker 3: are less than ten days away from the start of

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Speaker 3: the new league year March thirteenth, the beginning of free agency.

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Speaker 3: Teams can begin contacting negotiating with players starting on March eleventh.

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Speaker 3: Those deals then become official on March thirteenth, and the

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Speaker 3: Bills have already been.

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Speaker 2: Making some moves.

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Speaker 1: Busy little beavers, busy little.

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Speaker 3: Beavers last night, so the Bills agree to terms on

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Speaker 3: a trade trading Ryan Bates to Chicago for a fifth

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Speaker 3: round pick in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. This

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Speaker 3: news came out nine to fifteen last night. Trade will

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Speaker 3: become official pending up physical on March thirteenth. The Bears

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Speaker 3: actually attempted to acquire Baits in March of twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: if you remember, they wanted to sign the restricted free

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Speaker 3: agent to a four year offer sheet, but the Bills

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Speaker 3: decided to match that offer, so Baits stayed in Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: He played in seventy three games with the Bills, started

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Speaker 3: in nineteen since twenty nineteen, played in seventeen games last year,

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Speaker 3: but did not make a start. He's a former Penn

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Speaker 3: State guy. We've had a few of those on our roster,

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Speaker 3: and Ryan Bates was really somebody who could be used

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Speaker 3: all across the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they he could back up all five spots. They

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Speaker 1: he's been an asset. He's had to play. When he

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Speaker 1: didn't want the Bears to get him. They needed the

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Speaker 1: depth they had. Remember last year going into the off season,

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Speaker 1: they struggled up front two years ago on their offensive line,

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Speaker 1: they weren't real good up inside, strong enough. So they

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Speaker 1: went out got two guards and they kept Ryan Bates

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Speaker 1: on the roster. We now got Alec Anderson, they got Vandermark,

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Speaker 1: they got some guys with some depth, Uh Edwards, David Edwards.

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Speaker 1: So they had some guys and Bates was one of

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Speaker 1: those guys that was a swing guard, a swing tackle,

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Speaker 1: a guy that had taken some reps. So they traded

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Speaker 1: him to Chicago. Now we just before we came on

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Speaker 1: the air, we're reading articles and some people have the

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Speaker 1: Bills with ten draft picks and some with eleven, some

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Speaker 1: with nine. Here's the thing, right now, the Bills have

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Speaker 1: ten draft picks. They have twenty eight, sixty, ninety nine, one,

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, one forty three, one sixty two, one ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: got ten picks. This trade will give him eleven, so

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Speaker 1: Is that the one fifty nine. It's the one fifty nine.

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Speaker 2: That's what do you think about that steal?

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Speaker 1: obviously if nine guys go down, they're in deep trouble.

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Speaker 1: But for right now, you think they've got enough guys

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Speaker 1: So uh, it'll be even cheaper labor than Ryan Bates was.

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Speaker 1: The Bears loved him more. I think the Bills were

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Speaker 1: four million in cap space. He's gonna give him some

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Speaker 3: And David Edwards is set to become a free agent.

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Speaker 3: my reasoning for why they feel good about trading Ryan Bates.

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Speaker 3: We also have been Solac on with us at one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: He works for The Ringer and has been doing some

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Speaker 3: a great pulse on free agency. Speaking of free agency,

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Speaker 3: Steve AND's what's set to come? Teams have to become

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Speaker 3: that news because the biggest item was the Broncos informed

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Speaker 3: on March thirteenth. And this quote from Sean Payton, he said,

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Speaker 3: on behalf of the Broncos. We thank Russell for his

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Speaker 3: contributions and dedication to our team and community, while wishing

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Speaker 3: him the best as he continues his career, general manager

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Speaker 3: George Patten and coach Sean Payton said in a joint statement.

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Speaker 3: NFL network Ian Rapaport first reported this news. The interesting

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Speaker 3: part about all of this is the money. The money

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Speaker 3: part of this. As a result of parting ways with

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Speaker 3: the highly paid signal caller, Denver will eat thirty nine million,

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Speaker 3: but avoid a thirty seven million dollar guaranteed trigger for

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five season that would have taken effect

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Speaker 3: this month. The Broncos will still take on an eighty

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Speaker 3: five dollars million total and dead salary cap over the

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Speaker 3: We're not sure what that will look like yet. It

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Speaker 3: will be the largest dead cap hit in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: It's larger than the next two dead cap hits combined.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot in this. This is I think

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Speaker 3: He's going to return to the Giants for a seventh year.

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Speaker 3: It would have cost the Giants twelve point one million

436
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Speaker 3: dollars to tag Barkley for the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 3: Last year, he totaled let's see, nine hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: two rushing yards, six rushing touchdowns, had forty one catches

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Speaker 3: for two hundred and eighty yards for receiving touchdowns, and

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Speaker 3: fourteen starts. That twenty twenty two season was that big

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Speaker 3: season for him. He had sixteen over sixteen hundred yards

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Speaker 3: from scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a great player, he really is, but he

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Speaker 1: plays a position that's being devalued. We're gonna we can

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Speaker 1: get into a lot more of this the franchise tags

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Speaker 1: as we move on, but it's just coming down now

447
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Speaker 1: that the Ravens have now they decided they are going

448
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Speaker 1: to place the franchise tag on defensive tackle justin Matta

449
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Speaker 1: week they're in Baltimore, so he's going to come off

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Speaker 1: the market. T Higgins already, the wide receiver for the Bengals,

451
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Speaker 1: has got the franchise Lugerious sneed The Chiefs just placed

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag on him. Brian Burns of the Carolina Panthers,

453
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Speaker 1: an edge rusher, has had the franchise tag placed on him.

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Speaker 1: Christian Will comes down in Miami, is not getting tagged.

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Speaker 1: He's going to hit the free agent market and he

456
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Speaker 1: will probably be as big a free agent, no pun intended,

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Speaker 1: as big a free agent tag as there's going to

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Speaker 1: be out there. Certainly, that's a money position at defensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: and he is a good when Bills fans know it.

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Speaker 3: He had nine sacks last year, sixty one quarterback pressures,

461
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Speaker 3: twenty three quarterback hits in his fifth NFL season, added

462
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Speaker 3: sixty five total tackles to that, ten TFLs, one force fumble,

463
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Speaker 3: and two fumble recoveries, so you would imagine he's going

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Speaker 3: to land a mega deal. Wilkins staying in Miami is

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Speaker 3: a possibility, but it'll be interesting to see if that happens,

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Speaker 3: just knowing that they have a change at defensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: with Anthony Weaver being hired there recently.

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Speaker 1: Right, And as I said, the Dolphins are almost as

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Speaker 1: bad as the Bills with dead cap money, so they've

470
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Speaker 1: got some maneuvering to do as well to get out

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Speaker 1: from underneath them the burden of that cap. So they

472
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Speaker 1: know they're gonna have a hard time signing anybody. They

473
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Speaker 1: first got to jump through some financial hoops to clear

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Speaker 1: up some money. And how much money that is, it'll

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Speaker 1: tell you if they've got a shot at Wilkins right

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Speaker 1: now they don't.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Our question for you today, if the Bills

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Speaker 3: reach the draft with one hole on their roster, which

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Speaker 3: position would you want it to be? And why give

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Speaker 3: us a call here at ATO three oh five point fifty.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take Judy's call next. When we return from

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Speaker 3: break where One Bill's Live presented by Clyde Health on

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back here on One Bill's Live

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Speaker 3: medic glab alongside of Steve Tasker on a Tuesday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Our question for you today, if the Bills reach the.

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Speaker 3: Draft with one hole on their roster, which position group

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Speaker 3: do you want it to be? And why we've got

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Speaker 3: Judy who's been hanging on the line for a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: Here, So let's go right over to Judy. How are

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Speaker 2: you doing today?

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Speaker 5: Judy, Okay, run and brain say saved the Bills franchise

492
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 5: years ago by drafting Josh Allen. Now it's time for

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Speaker 5: him to come through again and get him some offensive help.

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Speaker 5: I don't care how many draft choices they use. They've

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Speaker 5: got to get some young, impactful receivers. That's the only

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Speaker 5: thing that's going to make a difference this year. Use

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Speaker 5: to less the rest of the draft choices, to fill

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Speaker 5: voids on the defense, and to go young. But I

499
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Speaker 5: think that he's under the gun this year. He has

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Speaker 5: got to produce with young impactful receivers.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said the same thing, Judy. I thought, if

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Speaker 1: they take a guy at twenty eight and they get

504
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Speaker 1: a guy they like, they'll probably go a different position

505
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Speaker 1: at nine at sixty, like defensive tackle. But if they

506
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Speaker 1: take a defensive tackle first. I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: take a wide receiver at sixty and at ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: I think they walk out of this draft with like

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Speaker 1: three guys at that position. What picks they are, I

510
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Speaker 1: don't know. I'd be shocked if it's not one of

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Speaker 1: the first two picks. Uh. And maybe even a trade

512
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Speaker 1: up like from sixty down to forty eight or something

513
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Speaker 1: to get a guy they really like if he's falling

514
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Speaker 1: something like that. We've been talking the draft. They've got

515
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Speaker 1: nine picks right now. The tenth one that we've been

516
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Speaker 1: talking about them having is the uh, the right now

517
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Speaker 1: ten Right now, they've got a compensatory pick for Tremaine

518
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Speaker 1: that hasn't been made official, and that'll make it eleven,

519
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Speaker 1: and when this trade comes through, it'll be eleven. So

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Speaker 1: they've got nine, probably ten because of the tremain Edmunds

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Speaker 1: free agency pick that they're going to get r at

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Speaker 1: the end of the third round, and then this draft,

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Speaker 1: this trade that hasn't official yet is going to give

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Speaker 1: him the eleventh pick. So they've got some a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys they're gonna draft. It's gonna be a I

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Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a big draft class. They're

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Speaker 1: going to get at least ten guys out of this.

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Speaker 1: If they package a couple of picks and move up,

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Speaker 1: that may happen, but I still think they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: a bunch of picks. So I'm with you, Judy, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a wide receiver. But let's face it, there's

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Speaker 1: no room for the guy on the field they only get.

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Speaker 1: They only have space for one on the field in

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Speaker 1: an eleven personnel. Diggs isn't going anywhere, Shakiir's not going anywhere,

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Speaker 1: and you got Kincaid and James Cook. So there's only

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Speaker 1: one more spot left and they're gonna cast a wide

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Speaker 1: net to find a guy to fill that role. I

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Speaker 1: said on with Jeremy and Joe this morning on their show,

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Speaker 1: I think the guy's gonna have some traits. I think

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Speaker 1: the guy's gonna be a big bodied receiver like Gabe,

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Speaker 1: like Justin Shorter, like Terrelle Shavers, the guys they've already

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Speaker 1: got in house. I think it's gonna be one of

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Speaker 1: a guy like that. So when I look at at

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Speaker 1: the draft class and down to the second round, those

545
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Speaker 1: are the guys I'm kind of looking at the big

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Speaker 1: body dudes. I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe I'll just

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Speaker 1: get a fast guy and let him take the lid off.

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Speaker 1: But I think more more than likely they're gonna draft

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Speaker 1: a trade and the size is gonna be one of

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Speaker 1: because of what happened last year in training camp and

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Speaker 1: the guys the way they looked. So I'm with you, Judy,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna come out of this draft. I think with

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Speaker 1: three wide outs in this draft. Now, would they take

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Speaker 1: them way down at the bottom and you'll pass the

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Speaker 1: two hundred and two pick, or will they take him

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Speaker 1: at the inside the one hundred pick. I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna get three guys. Yep.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense to me. And you know you talk

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Speaker 3: about a big body guy filling in that role, filling

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Speaker 3: in that X spot for Buffalo. The good thing about

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Speaker 3: this draft class is quite a few guys are big,

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Speaker 3: but also quite a few guys possess speed as another trait,

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Speaker 3: So you might get both out of that wide receiver

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Speaker 3: that you decide to draft on Day one or Day two,

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Speaker 3: whenever the Bills decide to do so. I do think

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Speaker 3: they're going to walk away from this draft with a

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Speaker 3: few wide receivers, at least a couple. I would think

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Speaker 3: just knowing the depth that is in this draft class,

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Speaker 3: knowing that in the NFL today and with Josh Shallon

570
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Speaker 3: is your quarterback, wide receiver is so important to what

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Speaker 3: you do, to how you operate, to how you beat defenses. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and also knowing that wide receivers, if you get the

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Speaker 3: right one, they can become very expensive. So having younger

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Speaker 3: guys on your roster that you're not paying big time

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Speaker 3: money to but can have a starting role or play

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Speaker 3: in several games, have have a role every single game?

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Speaker 2: Why not? And this is the draft class to do.

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Speaker 1: So if you go down the list of right White

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Speaker 1: House away, everybody's kind of got them listed, you know,

580
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Speaker 1: like Marvin Harrison Junior, Malik Neighbors, Roma Doonzay, and Brian

581
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Speaker 1: Thomas Junior who's been mocked to the Bills a ton.

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Speaker 1: Milik Neighbors is six foot two Bills everybody else is

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Speaker 1: sixty three six y two, six ' three. Then Troy

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Speaker 1: Franklin is six too, but he's only one hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy six pounds, right, he's light. Then you go down

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Speaker 1: further and it's a d Mitchell, the kid from Texas,

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Speaker 1: which I think he's gonna be there when the Bills

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Speaker 1: pick it.

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Speaker 4: Well, hope.

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Speaker 2: So he's six two to two oh five.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of trait we're talking about. Keon Coleman,

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Speaker 1: same thing, six three two thirteen. They're big dudes. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Then you get Roman Wilson from Michigan. He's not big enough.

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Speaker 1: Jermaine Burton doesn't seem big enough. He's six foot of

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Speaker 1: buck ninety five. He's about two hundred. Jermaine Burton's on

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Speaker 1: the verge of being there. He's six foot of buck

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Speaker 1: ninety six. That's kind of the bottom end of it.

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00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: And then everybody from there down for a minute is

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Speaker 1: you know, five eleven and you know, either under two

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Speaker 1: hundred pounds or like there's you know two eleven, there's one.

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Speaker 1: So you can get down to Devontes Walker from North Carolina.

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00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: There's a kid he's six two buck ninety three. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Polk from Washington sixty one two oh three. Xavier

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Speaker 1: Leggett he's six one two twenty one. Those are the

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Speaker 1: kind of guys you're looking at, because there's a ton

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Speaker 1: of guys you know that are you know, here's a

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Speaker 1: you know, because Malik Washington from he's five to eight

608
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: a buck ninety. You know that's that's not a true

609
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: X receiver. That's a slot guy to me, right, he's

610
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Speaker 1: just a small shifting So there's guys gonna that are

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the board, and one, two, or three

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Speaker 1: of the guys I'm talking about are gonna be a

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Speaker 1: part of the team. Is that the Bills are heavy

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Speaker 1: in that market. Having said that, it also begs the

615
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: question we forget about this every time at this point

616
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: of the season, Mad we get here and we forget.

617
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna free up some money. They're gonna get under

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Speaker 1: the cap by about twenty million bucks or twelve million

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Speaker 1: or fifteen million something like that. They're gonna get under

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Speaker 1: the cap by that much, and they're gonna sign some

621
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Speaker 1: free agents. There's like, oh, oh yeah, I know that guy.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna fill these holes with guys that we who

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Speaker 1: we've seen play in the NFL. That's what I always forget.

624
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: You don't know where they're gonna come from, you know,

625
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: the safeties, the d lineman even wider. I mean, they're

626
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Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna sign some guys that's the big unknown

627
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Speaker 1: right here, who they're going to be able to afford

628
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: who we're going to get on a one year, very

629
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Speaker 1: sweetheart of a deal because they want to come play

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Speaker 1: on a team that's got a shot at the ring.

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Speaker 1: Are they want to come play for a quarterback like Josh?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's that's the question that's going to be

633
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: out there. It's it's you know, it's a recruiting job.

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Speaker 1: All this is going to happen before we even get

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Speaker 1: to this draft. And that's kind of our question today.

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00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: If they do get to the draft and there is

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Speaker 1: still a hole on the roster, where are you comfortable

638
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Speaker 1: having that whole b.

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Speaker 3: And then looking at just a couple mock drafts while

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Speaker 3: you've been talking, a CBS Sports mock draft has the

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Speaker 3: Bills taking Lad mcconkee at the number twenty eight spot

642
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 3: because they have Brian Thomas Junior going off the board

643
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Speaker 3: at pig number eighteen to the Bengals. Another mock draft

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Speaker 3: that I'm looking at also has Brian Thomas Junior going

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Speaker 3: off the board head of the Bills. So we're starting

646
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: to see things shift now. These are just two mock

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Speaker 3: drafts that I just randomly pulled up. We will have

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Speaker 3: a mock draft. Watch three point zero come out on

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Speaker 3: Friday afternoon. So we will go through all of that

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Speaker 3: on the show on Friday and truly see if there's

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Speaker 3: a shift, see if the Bills are still being mocked.

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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior, as he's been the favorite leading up

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Speaker 3: to the NFL combed, this.

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Speaker 1: Will be the first mock draft watch we've done since

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Speaker 1: the combine. Yes, and that the combine always you know,

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Speaker 1: there's always a little bit of a pivot going on

657
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Speaker 1: there because everybody's going, well, I like this guy, now,

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Speaker 1: I like this guy better.

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Speaker 3: This guy ran really fast, this.

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Speaker 1: Guy ran really faster, this guy looks bigger. And we

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Speaker 1: said it yesterday. When they get them all together on

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Speaker 1: the field running through drills, even though they're just standing around,

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Speaker 1: the gms and scouts feel like they can tell a

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Speaker 1: thousand times more accurately what the guy's like by watching

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Speaker 1: him when he's just standing around talking to guys, how

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Speaker 1: he interacts with his with his fellow position players, with

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Speaker 1: the with the guys at other positions, where the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are talking to the wideouts, how that goes. What the

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Speaker 1: guy's like, what's his body language say? And you always

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Speaker 1: get these guys like like back in the day, like

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Speaker 1: when DK Metcalf came out. Yeah, he didn't really hear

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Speaker 1: about him until he got the combines, Like who is

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Speaker 1: that dude? And you know he started then he starts

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Speaker 1: posting social media pictures and stuff, and guys like wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, and all of a sudden you start to

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Speaker 1: find out. You get the guy in the room with

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Speaker 1: the other receivers and he looks better. He just passes

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Speaker 1: the eye test better than everybody else. That happens a

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Speaker 1: lot at the combine.

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Speaker 3: I think another guy's Darnel Washington, the tight end out

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Speaker 3: of Jordia E Sargia, who is Hue?

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Speaker 1: You just you get a look at these guys, It's like, man,

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Speaker 1: how do these other guys even have a shot at

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Speaker 1: it with this guy standing there? And that's and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of that. I think that that happens at

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Speaker 1: the draft. So this mock draft is going to be interesting,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: Yep. I agree.

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Speaker 3: More news surrounding and the NFL and placing the franchise

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Speaker 3: tag on players. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, according to reports,

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Speaker 3: are going to tag and Twine Winfield Junior, the safety

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Speaker 3: who has had quite the career with Tampa Bay. Last year,

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Speaker 3: he had three interceptions, twelve passes, defense forced six fumbles,

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Speaker 3: which I believe led the league. Had six sacks as well,

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Speaker 3: which is a nice number for safety. He's been on

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Speaker 3: the team since twenty twenty. His father, Antoine Winfield.

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Speaker 2: Played for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: I remember getting to talk to Antoine Winfield Junior during

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Speaker 3: the Combine when he was at the Combine and kind

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Speaker 3: of hoping it would be really cool if we drafted

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Speaker 3: this guy. And yeah, he's been a good player. I'm

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Speaker 3: not surprised to see that the Bucks are going to

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Speaker 3: tag him. I would assume it's just a placeholder for

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Speaker 3: what's to come in terms of an extension for a

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Speaker 3: player like this.

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Speaker 1: Think about it. I've got the numbers for the franchise

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Speaker 1: positional values the quarterback. The franchise tag for QB is

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Speaker 1: only thirty eight million, and we've seen these guys are

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Speaker 1: making it way above forty and almost fifty. So the

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Speaker 1: franchise tag for quarterback is at thirty eight million. Running

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Speaker 1: back's only eleven point nine. Wide receivers twenty one point eight.

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Speaker 1: That's a big number for a one year deal for

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Speaker 1: a guy, and that's what t Higgins has due, and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be if he signs, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: guaranteed twenty one eight tight ends twelve point six. Offensive

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Speaker 1: line is twenty point nine to eight, defensive ends twenty

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Speaker 1: one million, defensive tackles twenty two million, linebackers twenty four million,

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Speaker 1: corner is nineteen million, safety's seventeen million, and then punter

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Speaker 1: kickers on five and a half million or five point

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Speaker 1: nine almost six million.

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Speaker 3: It's getting expensives for certain position groups.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the defensive line, you can tell. I mean, just

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers. The money positions are quarterback, linebacker,

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle, defensive end, and wide receiver, cornerbacks all the

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Speaker 1: way down the middle of the pack, pass defensive end,

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Speaker 1: and offensive line. That's that's saying something really interesting about

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Speaker 1: these franchise numbers and how the league spends its money.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this, you always free agency is unbelievable

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Speaker 1: because all he needs one owner who says he wants

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Speaker 1: a guy, and all of a sudden, you got a

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Speaker 1: team like the Browns given Deshaun Watson two hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty six million dollars guaranteed for five years and then

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Speaker 1: having to live with it. It's rough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are turning around left and right, and more

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Speaker 3: news keeps coming in. Rappaport now reporting the Jaguars are

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Speaker 3: expected to place the franchise tag on pass rusher Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen and he's on the books for one year and

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Speaker 3: twenty four million dollars. According to a source, the team

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Speaker 3: has expressed confidence in getting a long term deal done

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Speaker 3: with him. No surprise there. Also, the Texans have agreed

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Speaker 3: to terms on a deal to keep tight end Dalton

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Speaker 3: Schultz in Houston. He gets a three year, thirty six

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Speaker 3: million dollar new contract with twenty three and a half

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Speaker 3: million dollars fully guaranteed at his signing. Schultz had a

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Speaker 3: big season last year along with CJ. Stroud, was a

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Speaker 3: nice weapon for CJ. Stroud in his first year in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. So this is according to Ian Rappaport, So

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Speaker 3: we're starting to see teams start to move get deals done.

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Speaker 3: Another piece of news I'm seeing is that Hayden Hurst

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Speaker 3: is going to be released from the Panthers and they'll

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Speaker 3: take let me see what this is, They'll take a

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Speaker 3: nine point eight million dollar hit in dead money. Carolina

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Speaker 3: was on books for five point seventy five million dollars

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Speaker 3: guaranteed this season, but they'll be absorbing that cost to

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Speaker 3: move on, and they're moving on from hayden Hurst after

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Speaker 3: just one season. He missed the final eight games of

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Speaker 3: this past season due to a concussion. So those are

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Speaker 3: some news and notes on what's going on around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: As the deadline to tag players is today at four o'clock.

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Speaker 3: We are less than ten days away from the start

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Speaker 3: of the new league year March thirteenth, at four p m.

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Speaker 3: Teams can begin to negotiate with players beginning on March eleventh.

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Speaker 3: A lot of those agreed to terms deals become official

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Speaker 3: on March thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll hit well because of the world we live in.

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Speaker 1: That Ian rapaports and Adam Schitzwitter timeline's going off to

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Speaker 1: you are going to tell us who's talking to who,

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Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting the early Now, the early conversation,

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Speaker 1: when you can start talking to guys, does that mean

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Speaker 1: that's when we're first going to hear about it, because

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Speaker 1: they're going to be talking to them now anyway, they're

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Speaker 1: already talking to them. I mean, it seems crazy because

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Speaker 1: now it used to be we you know, I know

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Speaker 1: what you mean, talking to everybody already. I mean because

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Speaker 1: here's the thing that you get a guy like Drew

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Speaker 1: Rosenhaus or anybody else who represents like nine guys, and

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Speaker 1: you're talking to him about a guy that's under contract.

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Speaker 1: You guys, what about your boy that we might put

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag? You know, I mean, it's crazy business.

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Speaker 1: It is part of the business, and I so I'm yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the early early conversation window is kind of that

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Speaker 1: means it's early find out window.

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Speaker 2: What do you know, Tasker, you go, you got some scoops.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's talking, nobody's calling me.

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Speaker 2: He's talking to us.

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Speaker 3: All right, we've got a question for you. We want

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Speaker 3: to talk to you. If the Bills reached the draft

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Speaker 3: with one hole on the roster, which position group would

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Speaker 3: it be? And why give us a call here eight

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Speaker 3: oh three, five fifty or tweet at us. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to the tweet sheet later on in the show. We're

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Speaker 3: going to take a break, but coming up at two o'clock,

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Speaker 3: we've got Ben Soulak from The Ringer joining us where

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Speaker 3: One Bill's Live. We're presented by Colyde Health on Buffalo

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Speaker 3: Bills Radio. All right, we're back here on One Bills Live.

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Speaker 3: And as we go to break and come back more

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Speaker 3: news happens. According to Ian Rapport, the Bears are expected

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Speaker 3: to tag cornerback Jalen Johnson as they continue to work

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Speaker 3: on a long term deal, a cornerback who has had

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Speaker 3: a productive career with the Chicago Bears. And the Bears

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Speaker 3: have been a team who, while you're figuring things out

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Speaker 3: on offense, their defense has been able to keep up

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Speaker 3: over the last few years.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I just know of that team is always having a

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Speaker 3: good defense. I know that's not always the case, but

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Speaker 3: Jalen Johnson being tagged by the Chicago Bears another team

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Speaker 3: with an interesting stories surrounding them.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing with that number one pick?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing with Justin Fields? Are you gonna

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Speaker 3: keep them? You're gonna trade him? Do you want to

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Speaker 3: haul Do you want to trade that first pick of

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Speaker 3: the NFL Draft to gather a bunch more draft picks

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Speaker 3: and load up. It'll be really interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: What that will And yeah, because they they don't want to.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to have both those quarterbacks Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: and Justin Fields on the roster. Is too much value

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Speaker 1: for only one guy being able to play even if

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Speaker 1: you don't know if one of them, you know, if

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Speaker 1: one of them is the guy and one of them

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Speaker 1: miss er, both are or whatever. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have a lot of faith in Justin Field's I

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Speaker 1: think there's some people in the building that think he's

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Speaker 1: given him a lot of hope and a lot of encouragement,

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Speaker 1: encouraging signs that he may be the guy with more

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Speaker 1: help around him. But of course, then you've got a

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Speaker 1: guy like Caleb Williams out in usc who is you know,

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Speaker 1: yet another finger quotes you know, can't miss prospect. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he's the next shiny object on the shelf, and the

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Speaker 1: Bears just can't help themselves. But both those guys, particularly

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Speaker 1: since Justin Fields has not completely flopped as a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: his value may never be greater because if you keep

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Speaker 1: him and he flops, then he's worthless. But if you

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Speaker 1: if you sell now while he's kind of got some

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Speaker 1: hope and some you know, some potential, yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: get something for him and build your team faster that

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Speaker 1: way with Caleb Williams and help him out right away.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting dilemma that the Bears have. They make

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Speaker 1: that trade with Carolina Carolina takes Bryce Young and it

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Speaker 1: does not go well, and you've got their first round

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Speaker 1: pick and they got Now they got two in a row.

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Speaker 1: They took last year Bryce Young and now they got

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Speaker 1: the next one and they have to give it to Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Chicago's had more than a few high draft.

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Speaker 1: We got to think of how about this? And I

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Speaker 1: know the guys in the afternoon they do the reverse

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Speaker 1: AFC power rankings, do the worst? What are the worst?

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Speaker 1: What's the worst situation right now for a team to

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Speaker 1: be in right now? Is it? Is it Carolina where

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00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: they got they were so bad they got the first

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Speaker 1: pick of the rep but it had already traded away

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Speaker 1: to get the guy that already failed. Or is it

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Speaker 1: the Commanders who are in there. We haven't seen them

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Speaker 1: in seven years. They're in the ABYSS. They're like a

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Speaker 1: black hole of information and content. They're not even worth watching.

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Speaker 1: And the Bears, who are elite in their ability to

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Speaker 1: be mediocre in every respect in like, they're just sub

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Speaker 1: they're sub average in every aspect of their organization. But

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Speaker 1: they're not horrible, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And I feel like they're on the cusp of figuring

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Speaker 3: it out. They're on the but I guess, I guess

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Speaker 3: I just sound like somebody who grew up in the Chicago.

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Speaker 3: They figuring it out.

864
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: That's the Cup figuring it out. When they drafted justin Fields.

865
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: Would you rather be? Who would you rather be? Denver?

866
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to be Chicago?

867
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Carolina? Washington? Who's got it worse? Right now?

868
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: Who's got the most potential? That's who you want to be.

869
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: You want to be a teach Chicago?

870
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: Who you'd kind of rather be right now? Right? They

871
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: got Fields and the first.

872
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: Pick you're playing with house money a.

873
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: Little bit or what Washington? They're so off the radar

874
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: it's hard to even get a handle where they're at.

875
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: They got they thought their quarterback was going to be okay,

876
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: he was not. And then you got Carolina, who what

877
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: are you know? What are they doing? They're they're paying

878
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: like three coaches who they fired, and they got a

879
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: draft pick at the top pick of the draft at

880
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: the most important position in football, who looks to be

881
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: inadequate at best, And they gave the first pick of

882
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: the draft that they earned to Chicago. Denver, who is

883
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: giving away thirty percent of.

884
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: Their cap to a quarterback to a quarterback.

885
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: That's not playing, that's no longer on the team, thirty

886
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: percent of the Caps going to Russ Wilson.

887
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: Good for russ Man making that money, Yeah, bless.

888
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: His heart, Good for him. But you know, is there

889
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: another one in that mix? Is are the Raiders in

890
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: that mix?

891
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: You could throw the Raiders in there, I guess, but

892
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: I think you're.

893
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: Highlighting Antonio Piers is a guy, They're team, they're rallying

894
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: around Antonio Pierce. I get that.

895
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: There's potential there, there's hope there, but I don't. I

896
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 3: wouldn't put the Bears in that conversation because I feel

897
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: like the Bears have potential and have a lot of

898
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: power within the next couple months to decide what do

899
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: you want to do. You can reset the clock if

900
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: you want. You've got a quarterback if you don't want

901
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: to want to trade him, who I think still has

902
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: potential under the right system and with the right pieces

903
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 3: around him.

904
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 2: So I don't.

905
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: I don't think it's doom and gloom in Chicago or

906
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas.

907
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: Well, no, they're on the No, they're on the eve

908
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: or you know, figuratively speaking, they're on the eve of

909
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: making some enormous decisions that about the future of the

910
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: franchise in the in the foreseeable future.

911
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: And it's interesting you talk to Bears fans and I

912
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 3: talked to my family quite a bit and have asked

913
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: them about it, and people are split down the middle.

914
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: It's it's really interesting, and people who want them to

915
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: draft a quarterback are also like, we love Justin Fields.

916
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: We love what he provided to Chicago.

917
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 3: We love his effort and the way that he the

918
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: way that he carries himself as as a man and

919
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: a quarterback and a player in the NFL. Bummed it

920
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: didn't It might not work out for him in Chicago,

921
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: but hey, we're going to cheer for him wherever he

922
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: goes because he's just a good guy.

923
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: It must be a little bit like where the Bills

924
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: were in twenty eighteen. Who are they going to pick

925
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: at quarterback? It's got to be this guy, It's got

926
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: to be that guy. It's got who's gonna be available?

927
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: And they trade up, They're gonna trade up. They gotta move.

928
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: They moved up once already, and then they move up

929
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: on drafting they get and it's like, and it's right

930
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: down the middle, who's Josh is gonna stink or he's

931
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: the guy I wanted. H That's it's got to be

932
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: that polarizing for the people in Chicago.

933
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Justin Fields or Caleb Williams?

934
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: Who you want? Who is the right answer for you?

935
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: Is that? Who?

936
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: Who they would go after that quarterback if they decided

937
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: to draft him with that first overall pick.

938
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: Is it Caleb Williams? Is it another name?

939
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: It seems like Caleb Williams is at the top of

940
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 3: everyone's list if you're talking to analysts around the NFL.

941
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a break. When we return, we'll have

942
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: Ben Solac join us from The Ringer to talk NFL

943
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: free agency, the draft, and much more so. Stick with

944
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 3: us here on One Bill's Live, represent by Clyde Health

945
00:51:46,960 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: on Buffalo Bills Radio.

946
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Called Lighta Health.

947
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: Welcome into our number two of a Tuesday edition of

948
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Speaker 3: One Bill's Live. Matti Glab alongside Steve Tasker filling in

949
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: for Chris Browning. In our number two of today's show,

950
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 3: we would like to bring on a guest, Ben Solak,

951
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: who's an NFL writer for The Ringer also co host

952
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: of The Ringer NFL Show podcast, and Ben, we want

953
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Speaker 3: to start here with you. In the previous segment, we

954
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: were talking about teams who have it worst in the NFL.

955
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about the Broncos who are releasing

956
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson and are taking the eighty five dollars million

957
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: dead cap hit and are using quite a lot of

958
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: money on a guy who's not even going to be

959
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: on their team anymore. The Washington Commanders who thought they

960
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: had it figured out a quarterback, but now that's going

961
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: to be a question for them. The Carolina Panthers, who

962
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: also drafted a quarterback, but is that guy going to

963
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: be the quarterback in the future for them? Who do

964
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: you think has it the worst right now as we

965
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 3: have free agency less than ten days away.

966
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Panthers are up there.

967
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 6: I think when you take a quarterback first overall, you'd

968
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 6: really like for some certainty after year one that he

969
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 6: can at least hang in the NFL.

970
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 4: I'm not sure you've gotten that yet from Bryce Young.

971
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 6: It certainly hurts you have traded up for that guy,

972
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 6: have sent your future first round pick in that move,

973
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 6: and then it turns out your future first round pick

974
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 6: becomes the new first overall pick in a draft that

975
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 6: has such quarterbacks as Caleb Williams and Drake Math. That's

976
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 6: a real tough roll of the dice there. You've already

977
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 6: also seen them start to move on from some of

978
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 6: the moves that they tried to do to build round

979
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 6: Bryce right Titlan hayden Hurst gets cut this week. That

980
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 6: was supposed to be all right, like this is our

981
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 6: starting tight end for Bryce Young. So they've had an

982
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 6: entire offensive coaching staff change over. Defensively, they haven't gotten

983
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 6: a full deal done with with Brian Burns, who's like

984
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 6: they're really only marquee franchise cornerstone blue chip player. Carolina

985
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 6: is in a real tough spot. I would not want

986
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 6: to be in charge of that rebuild in the time

987
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 6: that that's going to take.

988
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: There's some others too that are there, Like she said

989
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: that the Denver Broncos and Sean Payton seem like they're

990
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: on the right track, but man, oh Man taking a

991
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: step back at quarterback, and they've got no but really

992
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: one other guy that takes snaps. They're gonna have to

993
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: look for a guy to come in and be the

994
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: guy to take quarterback snaps. The entire AFC. What you

995
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: see the Chiefs go back to back Super Bowl champs,

996
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: and the rest of the division is an absolute dumpster fire.

997
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: The Chargers can't get it together. They're changing head coaches.

998
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: The Raiders they're trying to rally around Antonio Pierce, but

999
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: they can't figure it out at quarterback either. And of course,

1000
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: uh Denver, as we just mentioned, with the problems they're

1001
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: having with Russ Wilson at quarterback. I mean, some of

1002
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: these teams for a division in the AFC West, it

1003
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: looked like it was getting it together to chase the

1004
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs down. Man, it all went up in smoke.

1005
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what happens, right when you kind of push

1006
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 6: them those chips into the center of the table to

1007
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 6: try to catch up to the Chiefs, right, try to

1008
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 6: try to be a contending team against the Chiefs. When

1009
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 6: when the plans fall, they when they failed, they failed spectacularly, right.

1010
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 6: And I think that's what you see in Denver where

1011
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 6: that that enormous Russell Wilson trade. Really like they ended

1012
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 6: up spending an extra seventy three seventy four million dollars

1013
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 6: on Russ. He was already he already had two years

1014
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 6: left on his deal when they traded for him, and

1015
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 6: they just gave him a massive extension, tons of extra

1016
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 6: money just to get no extra years for him. Then

1017
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 6: if they had never extended him off Seattle anyway, that's

1018
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 6: an example of bright You push your chips in believing

1019
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 6: the guys the dude before you even kind of get

1020
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 6: him in the building, and then you realize that the

1021
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 6: athleticism starting to tail off in the play starting to

1022
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 6: tail off. The Raiders right with I think that they

1023
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 6: were hoping to be part of the Brady Sweepstakes. They

1024
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 6: go and get Jimmy Garoppolo as the Constellation Prize. Josh

1025
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 6: McDaniels is in the head coach that they want, and yeah,

1026
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 6: you make the great DeVonta Adams trade. He's still such

1027
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 6: a good player, but you don't have enough around him

1028
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 6: to kind of justify the move. You see teams when

1029
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 6: they when they go to get aggressive and push chips

1030
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 6: into the center of the table to really contend. It's

1031
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 6: nice when it when it lands for them, but when

1032
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 6: it doesn't, you really you fall down the rankings precipitously.

1033
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's boom er busts for some of those teams

1034
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 3: who say Hey, we're all in Speaking of the Broncos,

1035
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: where does this team go from here without Russell Wilson

1036
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: as their quarterback? And part two to that question is

1037
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: what teams are going to be interested in Russell Wilson

1038
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: knowing that he's thirty five years old and knowing that

1039
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: what we heard about his time during during his couple

1040
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 3: of seasons in Denver is maybe just this isn't the

1041
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: guy that you want leading your team.

1042
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1043
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 6: I struggle to imagine many teams are going to be

1044
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 6: hustling to go get rust in their locker room simply

1045
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 6: because he comes with a pedigree and a name where

1046
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 6: you would expect him to be a starting caliber player.

1047
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 6: But at this point, with the way his athleticism has

1048
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 6: trailed off, he doesn't create in the scramble drill, he

1049
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 6: doesn't create outside of structure nearly the way he used to,

1050
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 6: and so much of his game was predicated on that.

1051
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 6: I didn't see starting caliber play from Russell Wilson for

1052
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 6: much of the twenty twenty three season. You can argue

1053
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 6: there was some Sean Payton sabotage in there. I think

1054
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 6: that's very fair, But in general, I'm suspicious that he

1055
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 6: still has that in his bag, and so you could

1056
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 6: see the Raiders going for it. You could see the

1057
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 6: Vikings like one of these, one of these teams that's

1058
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 6: going to have a young quarterback and maybe they want

1059
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 6: a bridge veteran, a guy to help him learn how

1060
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 6: to prepare.

1061
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: But I'm suspicious that there's going to be a big

1062
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 4: market for us.

1063
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 6: I think he's more of a veteran, minimum contract sort

1064
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 6: of a guy for the Broncos. I think that you're

1065
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 6: in a clear twenty twenty four reload, right. You absolutely

1066
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 6: have to play youth at the quarterback position. You have

1067
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 6: to see if you roll and you get lucky with

1068
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 6: a middle round guy, a second round quarterback. Maybe they're

1069
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 6: actually able to take somebody where they're picking them right

1070
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 6: now at twelve.

1071
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 4: Maybe it is Jarrett stead Of who is on the roster.

1072
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 6: But you have to try to find a cheap quarterback

1073
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 6: option because you can't spend money on quarterback this year

1074
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 6: next year because you're totaling eighty five million in.

1075
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 4: Dead cap for the Russell Wilson.

1076
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 6: Cut, and so you've already got that money ear marked

1077
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 6: and allocated for a quarterback.

1078
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: You can't be going.

1079
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 6: And I think they're getting a big name free agent

1080
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 6: or even like a middle toier guy. You have to

1081
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 6: try to play some cheap youth and reset your your

1082
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 6: cap book, reset your accounting books. So I could see Stidham,

1083
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 6: I could see a small trade up for a quarterback.

1084
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 6: I could see a second round bo Nix from Michael Pennix.

1085
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 6: All those options are on the table, but fundamentally they

1086
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 6: have to stay cheap at that position for at least

1087
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 6: this year and probably in the next year.

1088
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: And as we get into this free agent market and

1089
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: coming closer and closer. We just finished with the draft,

1090
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: arm with the combine, getting ready for the draft, and

1091
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: now today the franchise tags. It's gonna have the deadline looms.

1092
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: T Higgins, Ladarius Sneid, Brian Burns of Carolina have all

1093
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: been tagged. Antonio, Antoine Winfield, you know justin Medow Week

1094
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: was just tagged by the Ravens. Josh Allen down the

1095
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: other Josh Allen down in Jacksonville, Jalen Johnson for the Bears.

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00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: Any of these guys surprise you. And is there anybody

1097
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: who was not franchise that you thought was a mistake.

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00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Josh Allen franchise tag to me in Jacksonville

1099
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 6: is a little bit of a curious one. I understand

1100
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 6: that they had it, it was available to them, and

1101
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 6: they saw plenty of time to consider a long term

1102
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 6: contract structure. But Josh Allen had an unbelievable season last season.

1103
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 6: He's been improving and as sending player, he is the

1104
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 6: cornerstone there for that team. Right they spent first round

1105
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 6: pick on Trey moon Walker, first round pick on Devin Lloyd.

1106
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: They have a corner they like in Tyson Campbell, but

1107
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 6: fundamentally the playmaker on this unit, after all the money

1108
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 6: you've spent, all the picks you've spent last a couple years,

1109
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 6: it's still Josh Allen. Josh Allen falls into the Brian

1110
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 6: Burns category of me in Carolina, where this is your

1111
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 6: franchise cornerstone. This is the piece that you were going

1112
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 6: to build your defensive identity around. There's no such thing

1113
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 6: as a good defense in this league without a good

1114
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 6: pass rusher, and you have one homegrown talent selected in

1115
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 6: your building. I'm surprised that they weren't able to get

1116
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 6: a long term deal done Josh Allen. Critically using the

1117
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 6: franchise tag on Allen ensures that They're not able to

1118
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 6: place it on Calvin Ridley, who's the receiver that they

1119
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 6: acquire from the Falcons via trade last off season. He's

1120
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 6: coming off on a deal. They're not gonna be able

1121
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 6: to tag him. So they don't get a deal done

1122
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 6: before the league year opens, Calvin Ridley will hit the

1123
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 6: free agency market, and given the fact that te Higgins

1124
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 6: has been franchised and Mike Evans assigned that extension, I

1125
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 6: think Ridley's probably the best wide receiver on that market.

1126
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 6: So it's scary hours now. Since you couldn't get a

1127
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 6: deal done with Allen, you had to tag him. Now

1128
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley hits the market and you have to make

1129
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 6: sure you outcompete all those other teams with money to

1130
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 6: keep his services in the building. And so I thought

1131
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 6: Jacksonville and the tag on Josh Allen was a little bit.

1132
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 4: Of a surprise.

1133
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 3: We heard that Miami, according to reports, is not going

1134
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 3: to place the franchise tag on Christian Wilkins, who had

1135
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: a great season last year for the Dolphins. He's going

1136
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 3: to command some big money on the open market if

1137
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: Miami can't work out a deal with him. Miami is

1138
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: also a team who has some work to do to

1139
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: become cap compliant. Do you believe the Dolphins are ready

1140
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: to contend with the team like the Bills.

1141
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 6: If you brought me on the show last year, would

1142
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 6: have said, yes, I got some new evidence.

1143
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: And I'm a little concerned about that.

1144
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 6: And we were talking about teams that find themselves in

1145
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 6: a bad way at the top of the show, looking

1146
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 6: at the Commanders, looking at the Panthers and the Broncos.

1147
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 6: The Dolphins really spent a lot of money to try

1148
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 6: to maximize that rookie window. That two A tone of

1149
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 6: my lowe provided them that cheap starting quarterback play, and

1150
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 6: they fell short, right, They had the division in their

1151
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 6: grasp and gave it away. This team is faded down

1152
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 6: the stretch now multiple seasons. In terms of all these

1153
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 6: quick twitch players, they have, all these speed threats they have.

1154
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 6: They're smaller players and lighter players. They get banged up

1155
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 6: over the course of the season. Their Dolphins does not

1156
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 6: travel well on the road. It does not travel well

1157
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 6: to cold weather, which is something that you have to

1158
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 6: contend with and you play playoff football. I'm worried about

1159
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 6: the build of the Dolphins, so they're constructed and how

1160
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 6: they might play every year in January. And it's certainly

1161
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 6: in a division with a team that's known to be

1162
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 6: as tough and as physical, as large too as the

1163
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 6: Buffalo Bills are. And so I have my doubts about

1164
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 6: Miami and the fact that Christian Wilkins didn't get a

1165
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 6: tagged and we'll just simply go to free agency and

1166
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 6: only return a compic for the Elphins is a sign

1167
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 6: of their lack of cap health. Right They're gonna let

1168
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 6: a as sending talent at defensive tackle leave in his

1169
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 6: prime without even.

1170
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: Like a legit offer behind him.

1171
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 6: So they couldn't get a deal done last year, and

1172
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 6: they don't have the money for it this year, and

1173
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,479
Speaker 6: so they paid themselves into a corner trying to build

1174
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 6: around two around this window now, and I think that

1175
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 6: that was they had their shots, but they were generally unsuccessful.

1176
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 6: And now you're time to pay the piper in terms

1177
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 6: of the money that they've spent for future years coming

1178
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 6: back to bite him in this year.

1179
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: And as we get to this point, we just finished

1180
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: the combine. I know you were there, you spent some

1181
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: time there is there, and we here in Buffalo were

1182
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: on the big, big time wide receiver train. We feel

1183
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: like the Bills are gonna take one at twenty eight,

1184
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 1: and if they don't take one at twenty eight, they're

1185
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna take one at sixty and ninety nine. I mean,

1186
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna lead this draft with at least

1187
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: three wide receivers out of these eight or nine ten

1188
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: picks that they have, maybe eleven if when this trade

1189
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: comes through for the with the Bears and the compensatory

1190
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: pick for Tremaine Edmonds also comes through from the Bears.

1191
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have maybe eleven picks in this draft,

1192
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: and three of them are probably gonna be wide receiver.

1193
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna I was gonna ask you, we always have,

1194
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: we have these rankings, the how these receivers stack up.

1195
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: Did anybody flips positions for you at the draft? Did

1196
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: anybody move up? One of these receivers kind of wow

1197
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: you to the point where they could jump into the

1198
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: conversation with some teams. Yeah.

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01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 4: We love to say that, don't we.

1200
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 6: But the nature is that we we should know the

1201
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 6: players off of the film, right, Xavier Worthy out of

1202
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 6: Texas on a four to two one. Yeah, we knew,

1203
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 6: We knew that soccer was fast all right, like, we don't.

1204
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 6: We don't need to get too far ahead over our

1205
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 6: skis here with that player.

1206
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 7: Uh.

1207
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 6: The guy who I think was a late round one

1208
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 6: pick who really stamped his his spot for me was

1209
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 6: Brian Thomas, the wide receiver at LSU, who I liked

1210
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 6: quite a bit coming in and I thought was have

1211
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 6: that ability to be a field stretching player, a downfield

1212
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 6: player because of his speed, and he secures that he

1213
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 6: lands that right run sub four four he does so

1214
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 6: at six three, he does so over two hundred pounds.

1215
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 6: I know, when you say the name gave Davis round Buffalo,

1216
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 6: you can get some different reactions, but in general, having

1217
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 6: a speed threat who also had size, who also has

1218
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 6: length is a very desirable thing in terms of a

1219
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 6: deep threat, especially with a guy like Josh Allen who

1220
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 6: will give his guys chances down the field. And so

1221
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 6: Brian Thomas and Keon Coleman, the wide receiver out of

1222
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 6: Florida State, are two guys who have I think the

1223
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 6: size that you want on the outside. They have the

1224
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 6: speed and the explosiveness to play on the outside to

1225
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 6: be deep threats. For you to have large catch radius

1226
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 6: to be inaccuracy erasers to win jump balls like that

1227
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 6: screams to me like the sort of thing that Buffalo needs.

1228
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 6: When you look at what the long term building blocks

1229
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 6: might be for the Bills as pass catchers, you expect

1230
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 6: Dalton Kincaid, you like what you've seen Fromkhalil Shaki as

1231
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 6: a complimentary piece. You don't know how much longer Stefan

1232
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 6: Diggs is going to be a Bill, going to be

1233
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 6: in his prime. You have to look for athletes who

1234
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 6: can potentially be X receivers, be one hundred plus targets

1235
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 6: the season guys. And to me that that's Brian Thomas

1236
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 6: and Keon Coleman.

1237
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 3: And if you were looking at the mock drafts, which

1238
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 3: we track here, Brian Thomas Junior was a popular, popular

1239
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 3: name heading to the Bills with that twenty eighth overall

1240
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 3: pick in the first round, it'll be interesting to see

1241
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 3: if mock drafts have him going a little bit earlier

1242
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: than twenty eight, knowing that he had a pretty good

1243
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: combine performance. In your latest mock drafts, you have the

1244
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: Bills taking Keon Coleman at twenty eight. When you talk

1245
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: about Keon Coleman, two people analysts, people who work within

1246
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: the NFL what you hear is he's a contested catch receiver.

1247
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 3: He goes up and gets the ball, but he's a

1248
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: contested catch receiver because he doesn't separate.

1249
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: How do you believe that is true?

1250
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 3: Or do you think he has the speed to separate

1251
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 3: and we'll see more of that at the NFL level.

1252
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: How do you kind of dissect Keon Coleman's game.

1253
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 6: That's a good question because Keon had a larger percentage

1254
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 6: of his targets be contested catches than you'd like to

1255
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 6: see from a top receivers.

1256
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 4: No two ways about it.

1257
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 6: Now, I give him a little bit of grace because,

1258
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 6: in my opinion, the quarterback play that he got at

1259
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,479
Speaker 6: Florida State threw him into some contested catchers that should

1260
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 6: not have been contested catches.

1261
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 4: They should have been open catches.

1262
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 6: Offensive design wise as well, I think they would just

1263
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 6: ask Keon to solve problems for them on the outside.

1264
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 6: When you run a nine route, you are generally inviting

1265
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 6: contested catches. You are expecting corners to be able to

1266
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 6: be in that window. You're tight up against the sideline.

1267
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 6: That's going to be a tight window throw. When you

1268
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 6: watch Coleman runner out right, this is a big boy

1269
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 6: moving in a unique way right there. You do not

1270
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 6: typically see guys of his size being able to break

1271
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 6: down the way they do, explode out of cuts, the

1272
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 6: way they do change in direction. I remember when I

1273
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 6: watched Nico Collins out of Michigan a few years back,

1274
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 6: and we're like, oh, big CAC move a little bit right.

1275
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 6: And that's the experience you get with Keon Coleman. And

1276
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 6: so the pieces are there that this should be a

1277
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 6: good separation player at the NFL.

1278
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to get Justin Jefferson.

1279
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 6: You know NBA jam mixtape highlights of the route running

1280
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 6: from Keon Coleman. I think that's for another receiver, different size,

1281
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 6: different build, different body type.

1282
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 4: But in general, he should hit your bar for NFL separation.

1283
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 6: I know that he didn't run particularly well in the forty,

1284
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 6: but the NGS tracking data had him as one of

1285
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 6: the fastest route runners that was there at the combine.

1286
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 6: You can see him right now eating up space like

1287
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 6: this guy's got big strides, he's got explosiveness to him.

1288
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 6: I feel confident with his ability to separate at the

1289
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 6: NFL level. And hey, if he's a little bit under

1290
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 6: average guess what really good on the contest catch.

1291
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 4: It's so nice thing to have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that all makes a lot of sense and

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01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: if and when they reach their potential and anybody else

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01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: in this wide receiver room, and I've made the point too.

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01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: Last year in training camp, the Bills had about thirteen

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01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: wideouts on the field at any given time, and a

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01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: lot of the guys they brought in specifically last year

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01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: were big dudes like Gabe Davis, like Keon Coleman, Terrell Shavers,

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01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: Justin Shorter to Torg. Yeah, there's some dudes. And if

1300
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: you're thinking down those lines, are there anybody like a

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: value pick on a Day two or a Day three

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01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: that you can think that has those kind of traits

1303
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: the size that would turn heads maybe in a second, third,

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01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: fourth round.

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01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of

1306
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 4: my names right now.

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01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 6: The first name that came to mind was where she Rice,

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01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 6: because he was my answer to every single one of

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01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 6: these questions last year. I'd remind myself, she writes, Al

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01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 6: Bay Chiefs already landed.

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01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 4: That young man, right right.

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Speaker 6: It's an interesting draft because it's definitely a draft for

1313
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 6: thinner guys. The draft for smaller and lighter guys, and

1314
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 6: so in terms of hitting your actual big size, you

1315
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 6: have Johnny Wilson, who is Keon Coleman's running mate there

1316
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 6: at Florida State. He's like super size, he's real tight

1317
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 6: end size. I do like Xavier Leget out of South Carolina.

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01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 6: Legets about six. So it's not so much the height,

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01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 6: this is the thickness. It's the build, and he can

1320
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 6: explode too, like he's he's got he's got a real

1321
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 6: quick first step, and he's he's a handful to bring down,

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 6: so I likely get for that. There's Ryan florinoy At

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01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 6: out of Southeast Missouri who's a small school player.

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01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 4: He's again like a little bit of a thinner guy.

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01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 6: It's it's there's not a lot of weight in this

1326
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 6: class outside of some of the top dudes, but he

1327
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 6: does have size. He does have lengthoys you can cause

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01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 6: a problem there. So I like florinoy I'm drawing senior bowl.

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01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 6: Who else popped out? Brandon Rice was fine, Troy Franklin's

1330
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 6: a little bit thin. Yeah, I think Leget is the

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01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 6: name that stands out to me as a guy who

1332
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 6: can be a good downfield player. You can be good

1333
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 6: yards after the catch player, and he has the size

1334
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 6: to win through contact the side to to get a

1335
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 6: big catch rats on the field. For Josh Allen, that'd

1336
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 6: be the player out of South Carolina that I'd like

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 6: in the middle rounds.

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Speaker 1: And he's probably Yeah, he's probably not. He's not a

1339
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: first rounder because of his college tape. You're saying, what

1340
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: is like, give me some range between was it like

1341
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: between two and five round? Will he drop as low

1342
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: as five?

1343
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 6: I don't think he get that low for you. I

1344
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 6: think it's more going to be round two, round three

1345
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 6: like that. Was a high school quarterback and so film

1346
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 6: wise at South Carolina, it took him a little bit

1347
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 6: of transition to wide receiver. He never had more than

1348
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 6: thirty targets until he played this season. And then this

1349
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 6: season was his explosive season, and so you have to

1350
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 6: ask yourself, Okay, why did it take a long time?

1351
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 6: You know, fifth year senior production was he just googs?

1352
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 6: He was older than everybody else. When I put on

1353
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 6: the film, I see a guy who's still putting it

1354
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 6: all together. But you're very clear you can see what

1355
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 6: the final picture is going to look like. He's gonna

1356
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 6: come together and have a profile that's similar to the

1357
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 6: one that you get from a Deebo Samuel, what you

1358
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 6: get from an AG Brown, when you get from a

1359
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 6: DJ Moore where he's not the tallest guy, but he's dense,

1360
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 6: and so since he's dense, he's really hard to move

1361
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 6: off of his line.

1362
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 4: He's hard to tackle in space.

1363
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 6: He can be a yak for you and a downfield

1364
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 6: is that explosive place sort of a build.

1365
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Speaker 3: One more question for me, Ben, I want to ask

1366
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 3: you about a defensive lineman who was at the NFL

1367
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 3: Combine who ran pretty fast for an edge rusher. It's

1368
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 3: Chop Robinson out of Penn State. He had a four

1369
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 3: four eight forty yard dash. He's been a name that's

1370
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 3: been mocked to the Bills a couple of times. Seems

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01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 3: to be like he will be available in that twenties

1372
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 3: range depending on what teams think of someone like him.

1373
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 3: And if you look at the tape, he's got that nice,

1374
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 3: that quick twitch, fast powerful first step out of the

1375
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 3: gate and can really get after a quarterback with that

1376
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 3: first step quickness and with the power that he has

1377
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: in that first step. But the thing about him is

1378
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: the stats don't match up with some of that first

1379
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 3: step quickness and power that he possesses and provides. How

1380
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: do you explain Chop Robinson. Do you believe he's someone

1381
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 3: that is going to be a project in the NFL?

1382
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: Or do you think he's somebody who can really be

1383
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: a talented player at the next level knowing that he

1384
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 3: has some traits that you just can't teach.

1385
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, to me, to me, he does land more on

1386
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 6: the project side of things than the immediate contributor you

1387
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 6: brought up the lack of production.

1388
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 4: Chopp is is all first step.

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Speaker 6: He's got an unbelievable, so wicked he can he can

1390
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 6: anticipate the snap, then he can get off the ball

1391
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 6: and like you can, you can build a lot with that,

1392
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 6: right you can. You can make a whole real player

1393
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 6: out of a great first step on the edge. There's

1394
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 6: no two ways around it. But if that player were

1395
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 6: there already, we would have seen the production from at

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01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 6: the college level. Right if if if Chop were good

1397
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 6: at finishing his rush is using his hands, bending around

1398
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 6: that that corner, flattening that ar can get into the quarterback,

1399
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 6: the proof of the put him and being the eating

1400
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 6: it's not there yet, And that's because he's all first

1401
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 6: snap step, he's all at snap anticipation, and I think

1402
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 6: he still needs to use that, learn how to use

1403
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 6: his hands better, learn how to tempo his rush is better,

1404
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 6: Like there's work to be done. So to me, Chops

1405
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 6: about a year away from from from being what you'd

1406
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 6: like for him to be at the NFL level. He's

1407
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 6: I would like him in Buffalo because they need a

1408
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 6: little bit more juice off outside. They were all into

1409
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 6: these big edge rushers, right, all these big long fellas.

1410
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 6: Get your agefest to get your boogie bash and get

1411
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 6: your Greg Russell.

1412
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 4: And that's handy against the run.

1413
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 6: Lets them play with light boxes, you like that, but

1414
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 6: they do need I think a little bit more of

1415
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 6: a juice and outside rusher. Tried to get that with

1416
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 6: Von Miller, you know, took a look at that for

1417
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 6: a year with Leonard Floyd. But in general, they need

1418
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 6: more there and so I would understand the draft. I

1419
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 6: would understand the fit. I would be surprised if Chop

1420
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 6: is a highly productive player in year one just because

1421
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 6: of the limitations that we saw with him at Penn State.

1422
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: Ben, thanks so much for your insights. Appreciate it. We'll

1423
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: hope hopefully have you back on the show after the draft.

1424
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Fellas, I appreciate it.

1425
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: Thanks, Ben, appreciate the time. All right.

1426
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 3: That was Ben Solac from The Ringer. He's an NFL

1427
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 3: writer for The ring also co hosts a podcast with them.

1428
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 3: Interesting what he said about Chop Robinson, And that's what

1429
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 3: you hear from several people if you talk about that

1430
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 3: Penn State product. You know, ran very very fast at

1431
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 3: the NFL commin like I said, at four four eight

1432
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 3: and seems to be like he could be available be

1433
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 3: on the board when the Bills are drafting at twenty eight.

1434
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 3: But do you want to draft somebody who's productive right

1435
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 3: away on this team? You think about the window if

1436
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 3: you believe in the window, if you believe it's closing,

1437
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: or if you believe it's gonna be open for a

1438
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 3: couple more seasons.

1439
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 2: Do you want a player like that?

1440
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 3: Or are you okay with taking somebody who's maybe a

1441
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: project for the first season, knowing that hopefully Von Miller

1442
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 3: is gonna be healthy and ready to go and Greg

1443
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 3: Russo can be right there on the other side of

1444
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 3: the ball. Your two edge rushers, you fill in with

1445
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 3: a guy like Chop Robinson who maybe plays a little

1446
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 3: bit in his first year in the NFL, but by

1447
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 3: year two he's ready to go. You do need that

1448
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 3: quick burst off the line of scrimmage. You do want

1449
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: a player who has an incredible first step. Von Miller

1450
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: is not getting any younger in the NFL, so I

1451
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: can understand thinking in the future of hey, we want

1452
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 3: to invest in this, but it doesn't make sense for

1453
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 3: this team in this upcoming season in twenty twenty four,

1454
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 3: when you have eight defensive linemens set to become free

1455
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 3: agents here in just under ten dances.

1456
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna take him in the top

1457
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: three rounds, you gotta expect he's gonna be on the

1458
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: field and producing projects are for later rounds. Now, certainly,

1459
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: you're not gonna give up on the guy if you

1460
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: think he's got it in him and he and he

1461
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 1: doesn't turn out to be a big time contributor in

1462
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: his first year, you're not gonna kick him to the

1463
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: curb right away. But you really want a guy that

1464
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: can come in and do it right away. It's been

1465
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: my experience and observation that when you get a guy,

1466
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: and even if he does come in and he's a

1467
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: three year Probably he's like Greg Russo. We saw flashes

1468
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: of Greg Russou right out of the gate. Now, consistency

1469
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: may be one thing, but you saw high end production

1470
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: and elite play at times. And then you also, you know,

1471
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: saw where he couldn't get to the quarterback all the time.

1472
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: But then he you know, he's knocking down passes, an

1473
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: interceptiment in Kansas City, He's doing all kinds of stuff

1474
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of special. And then you get into that

1475
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: third or fourth year and all of a sudden, the

1476
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: guy's one of the few guys is on the field

1477
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: a lot because they trust him that you can do that.

1478
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: But he's got to be able to be a regular

1479
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: part of the rotation in Buffalo. If you're going to

1480
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: pick him on the first one, two or three, in

1481
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: my opinion, if you can't get out, I don't want

1482
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: to draft him and then have him be.

1483
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 3: Inactive, especially knowing how important this draft is for the Bills.

1484
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 3: We've heard Brandon Bean say it at the end of

1485
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 3: the season and in the combine, just how important this

1486
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 3: draft is going to be for this team, knowing what

1487
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: they have to do to become cap compliant, knowing that

1488
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 3: this is a team that has to get younger in

1489
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 3: certain areas, and knowing that this is a team that

1490
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 3: can make it to the Super Bowl, knowing that this

1491
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 3: is a team that is talented enough to win a

1492
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 3: Super Bowl if you load up on some different parts

1493
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 3: that have some holes right now on this roster, I

1494
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 3: truly believe this team can come together and turn it

1495
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 3: around and make it further than they have in the past.

1496
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 3: You have Josh Allen as your quarterback. You have an

1497
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: incredible coach and Sean McDermott. You have some great pieces

1498
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 3: on offense. Stefan Diggs is number one at the top

1499
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 3: of that list. You've got Dalton Kincaida, a versatile tight end.

1500
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 3: You've got James Cook, who had a great come out

1501
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 3: season this past year, showing his skill set on the

1502
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 3: ground and also as a receiver. The offensive line had

1503
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 3: the best season they've had yet, and all of those

1504
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 3: guys are under contract next season. There's also pieces on

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01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 3: the defense that are coming back next year. Von Miller,

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01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 3: Greg Russo, Ed Oliver to name just a few guys,

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 3: Terrell Bernard, hopefully Matt Milano gets healthy.

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01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Toroll Yeah, and the corners, Taron Johnson is

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01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: going to be back on the field, and I like

1510
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: and I know that Tredavius White at this point is

1511
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: a big question mark as to how he's going to

1512
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: recover from devastating injury. But you do have kyer Elam,

1513
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: you do have Christian Benford, you.

1514
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:54,679
Speaker 2: Do have Rusuell Douglas.

1515
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: Rusuell Douglas who came in and was really a splash

1516
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: after he made the trade mid season for him from

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01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I like where they're at cornerback wise and

1518
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: depth wise there and linebacker. But you know, you've got

1519
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: some You've got some important places to fill on that defense.

1520
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see him do it.

1521
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 1: I still think they're gonna have find the money to

1522
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: go out and fill some holes in free agency and

1523
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: then attack the draft when it does happen. I just

1524
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 1: don't think we're going to have the vacancies left on

1525
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: the roster once we get there.

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01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, or be in a place where maybe you take

1527
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 3: a project player in the first round, because you can.

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01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: Right well think about they took a tight end last

1529
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: year when they had just signed a tight end to

1530
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: an extension in Dalton Dawson Knox. So there's there's some

1531
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: room there. Yeah, there's some room there.

1532
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 3: And those rookies last year they played right away. Don

1533
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 3: Kincaid and Osirius Torrance had a big time role on

1534
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 3: this team last year and they were both really good

1535
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 3: in those roles and have a lot of potential for

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01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four season. Break time for when we return,

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01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: we're answering the phone, so don't go anywhere. On One

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01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 3: Bills Live, We're presented by Clydehealth on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 3: We're back here on One Bills Live. Mattie Glab alongside

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01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 3: of Steve Tasker. Our question for you today, if the

1541
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 3: Bills reach the draft with one hole on their roster,

1542
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: which position would you want it to be?

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01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 2: And why?

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01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: Tom has been hanging on the line. So let's go

1545
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 3: right over to Tom to begin this segment.

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01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 2: Tom, do you.

1547
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 3: Have a position group that you want the Bills to

1548
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 3: go after in the draft?

1549
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 7: Well? I wanted to go after or where they would

1550
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 7: be left. I thought the question was that what would

1551
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 7: be left?

1552
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: Yes, what would be left? So what you would want them.

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01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 7: To go after, say, safety is the one they can

1554
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 7: avoid or afford not to go after, because I think

1555
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 7: they'll sign there's enough safeties that they'll sign a safety

1556
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 7: in free agency, and then with the way that there,

1557
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 7: it's going to be really tough on being and anybody else.

1558
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 7: Bean's going to be very flexible because there's so many

1559
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 7: players left because of COVID that I think in a

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01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 7: lot of seasons, like last year, I think they if

1561
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 7: you look at it, there are probably like fifteen to

1562
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 7: eighteen number one first round draft picks, and this year,

1563
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 7: I think there's very close to thirty two. So I

1564
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 7: think you're gonna have to bounce between I'd love for

1565
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 7: him to get Thomas or Mitchell at wide receiver, but

1566
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 7: if they're both gone, they may have to bounce over

1567
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 7: the defense and take somebody like Darius Robinson or Fisk

1568
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 7: and then hope to get somebody like Leggett in the

1569
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 7: second round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of names popping up now on

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01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 1: our timelines on social that where teams are being forced

1572
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: to release good players. In Jacksonville, they're releasing a couple

1573
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: of players because they're gonna releasing those two players will

1574
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 1: give them the money to take the hit on Josh

1575
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: Allen's franchise tag. And these are most of them are

1576
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 1: like you're saying they're defensive back safeties. A couple of

1577
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: linebackers are starting to hit the market right now. Those

1578
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: are spots where there's gonna be like last year, and

1579
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 1: Brownie made the point. Last year looked like Jordan Poyer

1580
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: was going to make big money and all of a sudden,

1581
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,719
Speaker 1: eighteen starting corners are starting safeties are on the market,

1582
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: and he came back to Buffalo on a two year deal.

1583
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of that same thing going

1584
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: on where guy's going to go to the free agent

1585
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: market and there's just gonna be too many guys at

1586
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 1: that position to give them a chance to make a

1587
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: big money So they're going to be signing these one

1588
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: year kind of prove it deals with whatever team they

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01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: can find a job with. You're right, safety is one

1590
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yes, for you and me, we may

1591
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: be happy that if there's a hole in their roster

1592
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: approaching the draft, safety would be a great place to

1593
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: have that. I don't know if Sean McDermott agrees with us.

1594
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: The first two guys he signed as head coach for

1595
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 1: Poyer and Hide and those guys have been a large

1596
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 1: measure In large measure, the reason the team's been a

1597
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: top five defense for like half a dozen years. I

1598
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: don't know if Sean McDermott will share our cavalier attitude

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01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: towards the safety position.

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Speaker 3: I would like to see them go after safety in

1601
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: free agency and in the draft. I think about it

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01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 3: like this, you are going to be resetting at that

1603
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 3: safety position here soon enough. Mike Hide is set to

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01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 3: become a free agent. I'm not sure if maybe he

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01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 3: would come back to Buffalo for a year. Maybe he

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01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 3: wants to play for another couple of years, or maybe

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01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 3: he's ready to hang up the cleats after an amazing

1608
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 3: NFL career. Jordan Poyer under contract for one more season,

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01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 3: So you know those two players are not going to

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01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 3: be together for much longer, and I think you're going

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01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 3: to have to reset eventually at that position. I wouldn't

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01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 3: want them to reset with two brand new safeties coming

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01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 3: out of college football. I would like to see them

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01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 3: have a veteran safety at that position, and then i'd

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01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 3: like to see them draft somebody who they can develop,

1616
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 3: because it's not just Mike A. Hide that's going to

1617
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 3: be a free agent. Taylor Rapp is also going to

1618
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: become a free agent. As well as cam Lewis. So

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01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 3: all that you have left if you look at true

1620
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 3: safety's Jordan Poyer for one year and DeMar Hamlin as well.

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01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 3: So you're going to need to load up a little

1622
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 3: bit within that position group. That's not a position group

1623
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: that needs twelve players like the defensive line or offensive

1624
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 3: line does. But I do think you I would like

1625
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 3: to see them approach that position in both free agency

1626
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 3: and the draft. More news out of the Indianapolis Colts.

1627
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 3: They're planning to apply the franchise tag to wide receiver

1628
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: Michael Hitman Junior if they do not reach a deal

1629
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 3: before four o'clock today. According to Jeremy Fowler from ESPN,

1630
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 3: a talented wide receiver for that team who has had

1631
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 3: a nice career so far. That four o'clock deadline is looming.

1632
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 3: We are just over an hour away from that deadline

1633
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 3: to tag players, to place that franchise tag on players,

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01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 3: let's dip into our tweet sheet, Steve, since we haven't

1635
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 3: done so yet. Our tweet sheet is brought to you

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01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 3: by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

1637
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills, and Greg says safety just like Tom,

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01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 3: because there will be cheap veterans available. The longer we

1639
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 3: wait the better. Also, if we play the compensatory pick game,

1640
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 3: then the player won't count when we sign them. This

1641
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 3: question is if one position, if one position hole remains

1642
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: heading into the draft, what would you prefer it to be?

1643
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 3: So greg on the same wavelength there as Tom Steve says,

1644
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 3: most will answer wide receiver. My worry is that it

1645
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 3: seems like it takes so long for skilled positions on

1646
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 3: offense to get acclimated and gain trust. It took Cook

1647
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 3: most of his first season, and it took Kincaid a

1648
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 3: while as well. We may want to have a veteran

1649
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 3: wide receiver ready to go week one and no hole

1650
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 3: at wide receiver?

1651
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: Steve, what do you think about that?

1652
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see it. There's there is something to be

1653
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: said for bringing a veteran NFL wide receiver, a guy

1654
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: who's been around the block once or twice in the

1655
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 1: league in instead of a rookie wide receiver. A veteran

1656
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: will be less distracted by everything that's going on around

1657
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: him and all the things that are new and different

1658
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: about the NFL. It'll be more of a business as

1659
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,879
Speaker 1: usual type attitude. It'll also be they'll have film available

1660
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: on him, Josh, you'll be able to talk to the

1661
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: guy like a pro and say, hey, listen, I want

1662
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: you to run like this. Let's get together and throw.

1663
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: I see the value in that, and I'm sure that

1664
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: they will do that. And he's right. As good as

1665
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: the first round or second round wide receiver may be.

1666
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: It'll take him innute once they drop the flat, you know,

1667
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 1: once they kick it off for real in the regular season,

1668
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: it'll take him in it for the guy to get

1669
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: it find his feet. So I'm kind of in on

1670
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: that because this is a team. But I'll say this too.

1671
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: I said it earlier in the show, this guy that

1672
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna draft, whoever it may be as a first round,

1673
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: second round, third round, or whenever the cappens, or whoever

1674
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: elevates to the top. It's Diggs's show, particularly at the

1675
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: beginning of the season. It's gonna be Diggs's show. It's

1676
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: going to be Shakers show, it's going to be Kincaid's

1677
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: show and James Cooks show. We just need a guy

1678
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: to line up out there for now. And if he

1679
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 1: expands his role because he earns it, that's okay. But

1680
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: we don't need him right away. Just get out there,

1681
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 1: get your feet wet. So a young player, I'm okay

1682
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: with that for a draft pick, because we're not asking

1683
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 1: to come in and be Steph Diggs. We have Steph Diggs.

1684
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: Just come in and be you and be your best version,

1685
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: and we'll see where we can fit you in. And

1686
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: when you earn some some targets, we'll start feeding you.

1687
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: And this is the season rolls along and you start

1688
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: getting a feel for it, we'll feed you more, and

1689
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: we'll feed you more, and we'll give you more opportunities.

1690
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm okay with a young receiver. And while I know

1691
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: the value of a of a veteran guy coming in,

1692
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: I like the fresh legs and you know, the the

1693
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 1: new you know, the new energy. A young guy.

1694
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 2: Brains that you won't have to pay him this way,

1695
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: right and.

1696
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: Then and the money that we get to keep because

1697
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: he's cheap. So I'm I get that about the veteran

1698
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But let's not this guy doesn't have to

1699
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: carry the offense. You got Josh Allen. He can carry

1700
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:49,879
Speaker 1: things himself.

1701
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this quick before we go to break.

1702
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 3: So you said you're which I agree with. You said

1703
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 3: you're okay with the guy coming in and kind of

1704
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 3: taking his time within his first season on offense to

1705
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 3: be a part of, not necessarily the lineup, but to

1706
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 3: have productive numbers. Are you okay with the same thing

1707
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 3: on defense?

1708
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing on defense. You don't. There's no

1709
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs on defense right now, you know. I mean

1710
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: you can say it's one of the Vaughn and Matt

1711
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: mlana and thosegether they're coming back. You know, they got

1712
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: some question marks. Tredavious White, I mean, we'll see, and

1713
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: Poyer and Hyder you know, may not be there at all.

1714
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: They got to have somebody come in and play a

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01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: significant role. They need a playmakers to come in and

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01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: show up day one on the defensive side of the

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01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: ball because they're just not enough bodies over there to

1718
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: do it. And there's and even with Matt Mlonald coming

1719
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: back and the way Bernard played during the regular season,

1720
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: those two guys, okay, there's two of them, but you

1721
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: gotta have four guys in front of those guys, pass rushers,

1722
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, and you gotta have safeties behind them. There's

1723
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: a much different level of urgency about getting those spots

1724
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: filled with quality people right away. On offense, you got

1725
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: a returning offense of line that played every snap, virtually

1726
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,839
Speaker 1: every snap in the regular season. You got an elite

1727
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver at one spot. You've got an emerging slot

1728
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: receiver and Khalil Shakir who emerged in a big way

1729
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And late in the season, you got

1730
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox who have really come into

1731
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: their own. Kinkaid is a guy that man, oh man,

1732
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: he's gonna be special. James Cook, same thing. So on offense,

1733
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: there's no urgency for this number two wide receiver to

1734
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: come in and like carry the load. Just help out.

1735
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: You know, we need you. We'll call you right, we'll

1736
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: throw it to you when we need you. But just

1737
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: run your route and be ready because we got other

1738
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 1: guys that are, you know, on the pecking we're a

1739
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: little higher at this point. You get what you earn.

1740
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: So go out, work hard, and we'll see what happens.

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01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: I like it.

1742
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 3: All right, break time for us. When we return, we're

1743
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 3: closing up shop here on one. Bill's Live represented by

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01:28:53,280 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 3: Clid of Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we're

1745
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 3: back here on one Bill's Live Mighty glab alongside of

1746
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 3: Steve Tasker, and it seems like a lot of people

1747
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 3: are hoping that the whole remaining on Buffalo's roster is

1748
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 3: wide receiver or defensive line. People are hoping that the

1749
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 3: Bills address the other holes in free agency, which a

1750
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 3: lot of that makes sense to me.

1751
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 2: What do you think, I.

1752
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: Think they're going to have to sign some defensive linemen.

1753
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: They have twelve on the roster and they only have

1754
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: four on their contract, so they're gonna have to get

1755
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: some guys, some bodies in the door. So I think

1756
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: guess where they'll start.

1757
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 3: Yep, that is where they're where they may start. And

1758
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 3: we'll see as all this starts to come together on

1759
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 3: March thirteenth, the start of the new league year.

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01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 2: That's going to do it for us today.

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01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 3: We will be back tomorrow from one to three

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Speaker 7: Three