1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, A production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. Hello and Happy Friday. AM Holly Fry and 3 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy V. Wilson. We talked about Jane Cunningham Croley 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: aka Jenny June this week. Yeah, and I can tell 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: listeners about the full on panic that I had getting 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: your email, because I I don't remember her being mentioned 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: in the paper Patterns episode. If she did, it was 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: not in my head anymore. But when I saw the 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: name Jenny June, what was in my head instantly was 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: someone we have talked about on the show before who 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: also knew used the name Jenny June. And that was 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: the person who wrote under the names Earl Lynde, Ralph 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Werther and Jenny June. And one of the things we 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: mentioned in that episode, which I'd also forgotten that one detail, 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: was that he he said he did not know at 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the time when he started using the name Jenny June, 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: that that name was already being used by someone else. 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: And so, like we mentioned, we mentioned Jane Cunningham Crowley 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: in this other episode, I had forgotten that one to tail. 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: So when I just I opened my email this morning 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: and I just saw a file name called Jenny June. 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, did we accidentally repeat an 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: episode topic. No, it is in fact a different person. Yeah, 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 1: I am very, very fascinated by Jane Curley. Yeah, because 25 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: there are ways in which I'm like, I get you, babe, 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I get and there are other ways and I'm like, 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: you are a snit. I will confess throughout all of 28 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the research. In my head, everything she wrote as I 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: was reading it was read in the voice of Emelda Staunton. Joe, Okay, well, 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: we need to know. There was a phrase that I 31 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: read that her brother said a couple of different times. 32 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what he means. This is one instance 33 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: of it. It may surprise even those who knew her 34 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: well to learn that her physical timidity was great and 35 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: at times painful. Now, I don't know if he's literally 36 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: saying she was shy and that was painful, or that 37 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: he is literally saying she has some physical ailment that 38 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: is painful. Like he and she both wrote in very 39 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: stilted language, where things like timidity might not mean what 40 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: you think it means. Yeah, when you've read it, I 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: interpreted it as painfully shy. But also, in addition to 42 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: both of them writing in kind of a stilted way, 43 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: like language use evolves over time. Yep. So if I 44 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: went and looked at like the Oxford English Dictionary or something, 45 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: would I find earlier connotations of any of that that 46 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: we don't really use as much of it now? Who knows? Yeah? 47 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean I I squirreled around, and I never found 48 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: anything satisfactory. But again, also his writing style, yeah is not. 49 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: His writing style is exactly what you might anticipate of 50 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: someone who was a minister in the eighteen hundreds who 51 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: was used to writing sermons, do you know what I mean? 52 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: Not bad? Yeah, not an easy read either, yeah, right, 53 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: Like probably easier than some people. But because after all, 54 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: he was Unitarian, one of those untrustworthy Unitarians according to 55 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: their fellows, according to their English detractors that they live. 56 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: There are so many things in here that kind of 57 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: tickled me, and a lot of the stuff that I 58 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: ended up reading I really enjoyed, like especially the back 59 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: and forth in various newspapers. One of the things that 60 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting that I read was not 61 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: written by her but by another woman. That was like 62 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: a letter to the editor thing in response to something 63 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: the newspaper had written about Soorosis when it had first formed, 64 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: because apparently it had been a big thing of like, 65 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: what is the point, why are you even doing this? 66 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: What good are you doing? And this woman wrote this 67 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: very lengthy but very pointed response of like, do you 68 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: recognize that if a woman starts an enterprise, the first 69 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: thing that gets asked is who are you helping? How 70 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: is this of benefit to anybody else? What is the 71 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: point of this? But men can start a club and 72 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: you're like, cool, I guess they just want to smoke 73 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: cigars together, Like nobody asked them what their bigger purpose 74 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: and social benefit is. I was like, oh, bless you 75 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty eight lady, who's real mad at this guy? Yeah? 76 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: I think we've talked about a couple of people on 77 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: the show who were members of Soorosis. Oh yeah, I 78 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: mean it was huge and particuarly in New York. A 79 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: lot of very well known people became members. Yeah. I 80 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: feel like one of them was maybe Emily Warren Roebling. 81 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Probably not, would not be surprising at all. Right, I 82 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: didn't look up the full roster because I got very 83 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: bogged down and reading people argue in newspapers. It became fun. 84 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't even sources at that point. It was just 85 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 1: like woo and then what she say? There was also 86 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: a moment in that very not cool passage. There are 87 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: several not cool passages when she's talking about like what 88 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: are you gonna do as a woman like teaching? You 89 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: don't know anything to teach it? And her point was that, like, 90 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: you are so young, you don't have the life experience 91 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: to be able to be a teacher. But knowing that 92 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: she as a young woman, her first job was a teacher, 93 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, do you just remember feeling like you didn't 94 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: know what you were doing and that's what this is? 95 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: Or were you conceded enough to think that you were 96 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: the exception that was ready to be teaching. I don't know. 97 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer. Yeah, I can't go back 98 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: and interrogate Jane Henning him Croley, ma'am, what is your 99 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: point here? Fascinated? Fascinated? You mentioned I don't know how 100 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: you put it that her writing is often very condescending, 101 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: and it is. Yeah, I found that passage in particular 102 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: about you know, don't be a teacher because you don't 103 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: know anything. I was like, well, what do you want 104 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: me to do? Man? And also, this is a little 105 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: patronizing the way you just wrote that. Yeah, I mean, 106 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: and that that is very much in the style of 107 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: her writing as Jenny June, where it is very like 108 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: I know better. It's like the advice columnist kind of thing. 109 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: And especially at that point she was an older woman 110 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: and she had really she was very well respected, but 111 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: she definitely took that to heart and was like, I'm 112 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: the expert on all the things. So mhmm, you are 113 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: clearly a ding dong my darling child, which is kind 114 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: of funny. Makes me laugh. No, thanks, like, oh honey, bunny. Yeah. 115 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: Her writing is also not an easy read, aside from 116 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: it being of the time. Sure, it's extra the phrasing 117 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: does not read naturally to me at all. Okay, but 118 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: it's still interesting. Yeah. I remember one of the things. 119 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember which specific thing, but one of the 120 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: things that I was reading that was a quote in 121 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: the episode. I remember getting part way through and my 122 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: brain kind of like slipping between the gears. Yeah, having 123 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: to go back and be like, wait, what am I 124 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: saying right now? Jenny June? What do you get Matt? Yes, 125 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: Her books that cookery book. It literally would make you, 126 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: I rate because a lot of it is like, why 127 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: are you so stupid? Stupid? Be a smart be a 128 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: smart girl, learn how to cook, which is kind of 129 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: fascinating to me. Yeah, because she was clearly in many 130 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: ways at odds with her own ideology. But right didn't 131 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: recognize that, as is often the case, it's easy for 132 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: us to see it with the passage of time. But 133 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, she was somehow thought, I mean, clearly, this 134 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: is a woman that had a lot of energy, right, Yeah, 135 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: you can raise four kids, keep a house. And like, 136 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: when I tell you about how she includes in that 137 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: book her schedule of housekeeping, I'm exhausted. It's like, and 138 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: then you have to iron the sheets and blankets, but 139 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: put them away carefully so that you know they won't 140 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: get wrinkled. And I'm like, mmmmm, no, ma'am, that's not 141 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen here. And then that she was writing often 142 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: till the wee hours of the morning to keep up 143 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: with her schedule, and then you know, scheduling meetings with 144 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: other women to form this group and keep it running 145 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: and stuff. I was just like, I don't I'm just like, 146 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: it can feel really good to get into a bed 147 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: with a nice Chris sheet. But no one cares if 148 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: your sheets are ironed. No one, no one. I mean admittedly, right, 149 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: this is a time before everybody had washers and dryers, 150 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: so right, you know my thing is like pull your 151 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: sheets out of the dryer, fresh, fold them. Then they'll 152 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: be nice and crisp for you know, when you need them, 153 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: which was not the case then. But I can't even no, no, no, 154 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: I would not be ironing the sheets, blankets, table linens, 155 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: et cetera. Yeah, because Holly's lacey, Yeah in this way, Yeah, 156 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: she seems like a dynamo. Yeah. I might iron the 157 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: table linens if I was having a fancy party immediately 158 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: before the party. Yeah, but I don't think I actually 159 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: even own any table linens that could be ironed, So 160 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: this is moot. Yeah, I'm a steamer person in instances 161 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: such as that, I don't. I will use an iron 162 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: when I sew, but I don't really like it for 163 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: my clothes or my right and I don't steamer. Yeah, 164 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: I own an iron, and somewhere in our home there 165 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: is an ironing board. I feel sure, but I could 166 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: not tell you the last time I used them. I 167 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: actually think the last time our iron has been used. 168 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: My spouse has this battle vest that he wears that 169 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: when he works at conventions that has all these different 170 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: patches sewed on, and a lot of them are patches 171 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: that have an iron on component. But he also sews them. Yeah, 172 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: but he will sometimes position them and iron them first 173 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: to get them secured into that place rather than trying 174 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: to pin them where he wants them to go. I'm 175 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: pretty sure that is the most recent iron usage in 176 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: our house. See, I do have the good fortune when 177 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: it is kept clean, which it often isn't of having 178 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: a three foot by seven foot ironing surface in my 179 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: sewing room, Like that's my cutting table, which you may 180 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: or may not recall, is very big and it's covered 181 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: in like stuff that can handle thermal so I can 182 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: iron right on it, but I still don't ever want 183 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: to do it. I also never will iron on a 184 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: patch even if it has the iron on stuff, because 185 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: in my ding dong head, I'm always like, what if 186 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: I want to take that patch off one day and 187 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: put it on something else and I don't want the 188 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: adhesive to mess with the Now listen, when I make 189 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: patches like on my embroidery machine for other people. Do 190 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: I always put an iron on backing on it, Yes, 191 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: because I know not everyone else wants to hand soap 192 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: patches on stuff. Yeah, but I will always stitch it on. 193 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, just one of my weird things. Yeah, 194 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: ever preserving. I bet that Jane Crowley would not approve 195 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: of iron on patches for some reason. Probably not. Probably not. 196 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: Shouldn't approve of a lot of things. But you know, 197 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: you better know how to cook, or you're going to jail. 198 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Apparently I'm going to go to a restaurant and have 199 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: somebody else bring me food, because there's no greater joy 200 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: than sitting down and having someone bring me a delicious 201 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: beverage and a meal. I love my whole soul. Talked 202 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: about the invention of the television remote control this week. Yeah, 203 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: a thing that was slightly earlier than I thought based 204 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: on my own memory of my childhood. Yeah, and some 205 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: of that is because it was still a luxury item 206 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: when we were kids. Yeah. Yeah, my parents didn't have 207 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: My parents didn't even have a VCR until like well 208 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: after everybody else had one. Yeah. I remember when the 209 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: VCR was purchased for our household. Which was later I 210 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: was already in college. Yeah, I was not already in college. Yeah, 211 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: but I was at a point where, like most of 212 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: my classmates had a VCR already by the time we 213 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: got we were early adopters of some other stuff, like 214 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: when a lot of classmates had a Nintendo, we got 215 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: a computer. So that was sort of like a little 216 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: different track of technology in the house. But like I 217 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: remember the televisions with a dial that you had to 218 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: visitally crank crank it around. You get up on Saturday morning, 219 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: you want to go watch your cartoons. It's on the 220 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: wrong channel. You just grab it and fling it around, 221 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: and I like remember the ratcheting sound of that. I 222 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: have like a tactile memory of wrenching the TV dial around. Yeah. 223 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean I was lucky because my favorite cartoons were 224 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: running in a block. Yeah, so it was like, you know, 225 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: you got your Smurfs and Snorks. Well, that's two hours 226 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: of your morning set up right there. Correct, Happy as 227 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: a clam the Barbarian. And then I've talked before about 228 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: how our household had a number of rules and we 229 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: were only allowed I think two hours of TV on 230 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: Saturday morning. It might have been longer than that, but 231 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: there was an hour a number of hours that was allowed. 232 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: And the reason I think it was two hours is 233 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: that I feel like we were watching four different cartoons 234 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: in that time, and Smurfs and Snorks was definitely a 235 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: block of that time. I feel like at some point 236 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: I should do an episode about Snorks and how they 237 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: are not a copy of Smurfs. I feel very strongly 238 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: about this issue. They came out around the same time 239 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: in Europe. I really thought you were about to say, 240 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: I think I should do an episode on all of 241 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: Tracy's weird rules from her children. No, I don't feel 242 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: nearly as strongly about that as I do Snorks and Smurfs. Listen, man, 243 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: give me Casey an all Star all day long, all day. Yeah. 244 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: I remember the first remote control that we ever got 245 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: that was pretty basic, with on and off and different 246 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: numbers for the different channels, and I also remember the 247 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: facing of it kind of delaminating from the body of 248 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: it over the time. Over time. Yes, my parents' house 249 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: now has so many remotes for different purposes, and my 250 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: mom's speech generating device has the ability to be the 251 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: remote control for the things that are related to the 252 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: team Ooh, that's cool. This is actually something I had 253 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: to write letters. I don't remember if it was letters 254 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: to my like congress people, or if it was commentary 255 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: on a proposed rule change, but there was a discussion 256 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: of how Medicare and Medicaid we're going to stop allowing 257 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: that technology on speech generating devices because it was seen 258 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: as like a luxury and they weren't even going to 259 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: allow people to like add that on out of pocket. 260 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: Oh weird. It was going to be like if you 261 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: added remote control technology, the entire thing was not going 262 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: to be covered. And it was like, okay, but this 263 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: is like one of the very limited ways that my 264 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: mother can have control over her own environment, and if 265 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: you take this away from her, she is reliant on 266 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: other people in a way that she would not have 267 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: been if she could just control the television herself. Viam Yeah, so, 268 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: and that was a change that did not happen if 269 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I remember correctly. So anyway, that's a very sophisticated remote 270 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: control because it can control all of the television stuff 271 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: and then also communicate I'm gonna say, and also the weather. 272 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: Just to be funny, but wouldn't it be great if 273 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: we did just have remote controls to control the weather. 274 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: We don't need to fish do it? Okay? Anyway, it's 275 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: a Leelu and stitch. Oh yeah, pudge controls the weather. 276 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: There was a great quote that I read while I 277 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: was doing research for this. I have not read this 278 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: person's book. James Glake. I'm not sure pronunciation. It's g 279 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: l Eick wrote a book called Faster, The Acceleration of 280 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: just about Everything, and was quoted in one of the 281 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: articles I was looking at in terms of how the 282 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: remote control changed television programming okay, and the quote was, 283 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: now every television programmer works in the shadow of the 284 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: awareness that the audience is armed. And this was one 285 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: of those things. It was tied to a bigger discussion 286 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: in that article about how once people had remote controls 287 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: and they could control what they were watching from their 288 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: chairm a lot of TV writers, editors, et cetera. Executives 289 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: became keenly aware of the fact that they didn't keep everything. 290 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: If they didn't keep everything really snapped and engaging all 291 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: the time, people would turn away. Yes, So like when 292 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: you think about the short attention span that people have today, 293 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: often attributed to smartphones, YouTube TikTok et cetera. Like the 294 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: roots of it go go back to the fifties though, 295 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: so we can't only blame the modern stuff. You have 296 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: to recognize that, like these shifts were happening in in 297 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: ways way before we ever got there. Yeah, way before 298 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: we ever got to where we are today. So it 299 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: was just very very interesting the idea that that had 300 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: added a different type of choice agency to people's entertainment 301 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: and leisure time. Whereas before they might have been like, Eh, 302 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: just leave it on, I'm tired. Then now they don't 303 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: do that any You have the youngest person in the room, 304 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: it's their job to change channel. Yes, it then became 305 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: their job to go get the clicker. Yes. I will 306 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: also say too that the remote control as you mentioned 307 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: in your house right and everybody in the eighties, there 308 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: was a lot of discussion as it became really prolific 309 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: because the infrared remote controls also became entered the market 310 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: at a much more comfortable and achievable price point than 311 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: their predecessors. So suddenly a lot of people were getting 312 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: them very quickly, and there was so much discussion about 313 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: how it was going to ruin everyone's life and make 314 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: them sedentary. But like TV dinners have been around since 315 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: the forties, is that when the first one, maybe that's 316 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: one I'll look into. They've been around a long time, Like, 317 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: it's not only this one thing. Yeah, Almost any time 318 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: you want to discuss like a shift in cultural norms, 319 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: you have to recognize that there is rarely just one 320 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: thing that is responsible for any of them. And when 321 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: you oversimplify, you are creating a problem of understanding where 322 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: if you wanted to try to solve the situation, you 323 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: only address that one thing. You're not going to fix Jack, 324 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: It's just there's nothing it's important to remember. Yeah. Yeah. Also, 325 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: the amount of physical effort it takes to get up 326 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: and change the channel on the television is definitely not 327 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: going to counteract all four calories that you burn doing. Yeah, 328 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: if you're extra energetic about it. Yeah, it's a false, 329 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: false way to consider it. I was very fascinated by 330 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: this idea from the nineteen fifties that Eugene McDonald's, founder 331 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: of ZnI, had that if you muted commercials, they would 332 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: eventually go away because they were ineffective, right, And the 333 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: reason this struck me as hilarious was do you remember 334 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties when MTV started muting their commercials. 335 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: When was this this in the nineteen eighties, I'm pretty 336 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: sure it had not been around very long. They just 337 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: played their commercials without sound. But what happened was they 338 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: actually got better viewer engagement on commercials because people would 339 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: get up go in their kitchen to get their beverage, 340 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: their popcorn, their snack, whatever, and when they heard no 341 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: sound coming out of the TV, they would run back 342 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: in thinking something was wrong, and so they actually pitched 343 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: it to advertisers. Is my understanding, as this is actually 344 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: a benefit because people are actually looking at your ad now, 345 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: whereas when we run them with sound, people just tune 346 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: the whole thing out. Yeah. I have no memory of this, 347 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: and I don't know. It could be because we were 348 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: also it took a while before there was cable at 349 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: our house. Oh, we didn't have cable forever. I watched 350 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: a friend's house. Yeah, in part because we'd lived in 351 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: the country and so there wasn't cable at all for 352 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: a while. And then once we did get cable, we 353 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: had a very base cable package that didn't include some 354 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: of that at first, at least, so I don't remember it. 355 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a Reddit discussion right now where someone 356 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: had written in and said, I have a memory of 357 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: watching MTV when the network first launched. All of the 358 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: commercials were silent, that is, the sound cutout when it 359 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: broke away from music videos for commercials, And this person 360 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: is like, I've been asking other people and they said 361 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: that wasn't it. That didn't happen. But other people are like, oh, no, 362 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: I remember that, but I think I don't know how 363 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: long it lasted, which might be why the confusion arises 364 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: where people are like, that's not my experience. It's like, well, 365 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: my years were you watching. I think that was like 366 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: early in the launch of MTV when it was brand new, 367 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: and if you signed up for cable when it was 368 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: brand new, you would get the MTV button. Do you 369 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: remember that? No, oh, the coveted MTV listen. I was 370 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: not cool enough. My family was certainly not cool enough. 371 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: We were not signing up for cable, and I was 372 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: not getting the cool MTV button. But now I look 373 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: back and go, that was so important to like twelve 374 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: year old me, and now I'm just like, who cares. 375 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: I have a vague memory of like one friend having 376 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: MTV at their house and like barely having any experience 377 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: with it until it had been around for a while. 378 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, the amount of sleepover skyrocketed as we all 379 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: wanted to go to the MTV houses and then like, 380 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: don't even get me started on one hundred and twenty 381 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: minutes because that was my bible as a teenager. Do 382 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, on Sunday nights, 383 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: they would run one hundred and twenty minutes of kind 384 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: of alternative new wave stuff. Give me all of it, 385 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: Give me all of it. That's the first time I 386 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: ever heard of was Costello's strict Time, which is one 387 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: of my favorite songs of all time. Amazing, Oh my god, 388 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: all of yeahz Yeah, those are good times, like you. 389 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: This happened a little sooner than I would have entedid Yeah, 390 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: in terms of it going on nineteen fifty, yeah, I 391 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: would have put it in the seventies just because of 392 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: like when it was available at my house. Yeah, but 393 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: that was that was the need for you know, LEDs 394 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: to be developed in infrared to happen, and LEDs to 395 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: become inexpensive enough that they could be used for such things. 396 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: It's very fun looking at the diagrams on the patent 397 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 1: applications for these, because like the one for the space 398 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: command Listen. I've looked at a lot of patent applications, 399 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: and I will be the first to tell you that 400 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: when you get into electronic circuitry, my brain kind of 401 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: blips out of the situation. It's like, I don't know, 402 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what any of this is. But that 403 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: one is one where I'm like, oh, I can actually 404 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: parse what this is, because, yeah, because it was a 405 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: little bit simpler, it was sort of ingeniously and elegantly 406 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: simple in its design, and it needed no batteries, which 407 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: I'm that's if you introduced a no battery remote today, 408 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: I think people would snap it right up right. Maybe, Yeah, Yeah. 409 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: We had very recently had an issue where the battery 410 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: died in the remote that we use for almost all 411 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: television applications at our house, and I turned on the 412 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: television and then it sent some sort of signal without 413 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: me pressing anything that put it onto some channel that 414 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: was coming over the cable, which is ninety nine percent 415 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: not what we used the TV for. And then the 416 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: batteries were dead, and so the TV was on. It 417 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: was on some random cable channel, and it took me 418 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: a minute to be like, why won't this work? Oh, 419 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: it is the batteries. Yeah, And unfortunately we had spare 420 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: batteries in the house. Otherwise I would have had to 421 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: fish around trying to find where the buttons are that 422 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: are invisible on there. That's very funny. Oh oh, TV. 423 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: What is the Homer Simpson line, teach your mother secret 424 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: lover television? Listen? I love it. TV is never turns 425 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: off at our house. Yeah, never turned off at my 426 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: house growing up. Keep it on all the time here 427 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: cats like to watch it at night. All good. We're 428 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: the opposite. Your TV's off all the time. It's off 429 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: most of the time. It turns on periodic. It usually 430 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: turns on. There are things that we watch together as 431 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: a couple. We turn it on to watch that. Often 432 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: as I am kind of winding down in the evening, 433 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: I will watch some kind of chill television show that 434 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: is not causing me any stress or anxiety. But otherwise 435 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: it's awful lot of the time. No on all the time, 436 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: muted most of the time, but it's on. We're playing 437 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: a game. If we're in a phase of some game 438 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: that is being played, on a console. TV is on 439 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: for that, but I rotate O, that's the downstairs TV. 440 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: That's okay. I was gonna say we only have one, 441 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: but we technically have to. But the second one I like, 442 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: I never interact with. It is in the upstairs attic 443 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: space where I rarely go one, two, three, four five. 444 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: We have five. Yeah, living room lounge, our little gym. 445 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: That one doesn't get used very much right now because 446 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: the plants are living in there. One in my sewing room, 447 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: and then I have another one that's not plugged in anywhere. Yeah, 448 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: I have an iPad emergency. I have an iPad that 449 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: serves the purpose of a TV that is on the 450 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: exercise bike. Yeah, on a little stand that I used 451 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: to watch a TV show while I try to exercise. 452 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: We used to always have the TV that was turned on. 453 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: This is this is more personal sad times to Cartoon 454 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: Network just all the time. Oh yeah, Cartoon Network is 455 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: no longer part of our cable package. It has now 456 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: moved to a premium cable package. And I have the sads, 457 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: but now it's just Golden Girls kind of constantly on 458 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: the channel which I've discovered runs Golden Girls at all 459 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: hours day and night. I didn't know it either is 460 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: or until very recently. Was also in one of the 461 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: streaming services, what do you mean, Golden Girls? Yeah, was on, 462 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: but I'm not streaming all the time. I'm I just 463 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: have TV on. Yeah, And I had to figure out 464 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: where the TV on all the time needed to be 465 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: tuned because cartoons, because it's not cartoon anymore. Yeah, it 466 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: was a cartooning sad. If this is your weekend coming 467 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: up and you want to veg out in front of 468 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: the television, rock on, I believe in you. Sometimes it's 469 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: the best listen. I'll put on a thing that's going 470 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: to run a million hours of ongoing content when I'm 471 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: trying to clean the house or do chores, and it's 472 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: the best I'll watch and or over and over seven 473 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: times a month. I don't care if you get to 474 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: watch TV and that is what delights you, wonderful. If 475 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: that's not interesting to you, I hope whatever it is 476 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: that you love is something you get to engage in 477 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: a whole bunch this weekend. If your weekend, in terms 478 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: of your time off, doesn't line up with the weekend calendar, 479 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: I hope that you still have the best possible couple 480 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: of days ahead, and that everyone is kind to you, 481 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: and that you eat delicious things and you feel joy, 482 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: and that the troubles of the world are not so 483 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: great that you cannot find delight in your every day. 484 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: We will be right back here tomorrow with a classic, 485 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: and then on Monday we'll have something brand new. 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