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Speaker 1: I'm doing. What are you doing today? Pretty good? What

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Speaker 1: doing that? Why? Why? Why can't I? Why should not?

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Speaker 1: You know? And so many people limit themselves through fear,

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Speaker 1: and that's not. Part of your vocabulary is fear. And

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Speaker 1: I go back to saying that your team and tell

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Speaker 1: us about the team that that that that keeps you going,

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Speaker 1: that challenges you, that makes you be who you are today.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so, I got a great network. One is whom i'mutu,

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Speaker 1: a friend of ours, Marquees gassing Um, who is the

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Speaker 1: NBA agent based in the Washington, D C. Area. But

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Speaker 1: I mean I probably got about ten or fifteen friends

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Speaker 1: like him Um and completely different hemispheres and lanes in life.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the cat that's making men and on

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Speaker 1: wage and a such a tooth teacher, um to the

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Speaker 1: cat that just closed a four hundred million dollar deal. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I think the ability to grow and extremely diverse,

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Speaker 1: unique network, and I'm talking about folks that are keep

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Speaker 1: it real. I was joking with a couple of buddies

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Speaker 1: and I was like, the last thing I want to

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Speaker 1: do is have a Kanye effect, right, which means I

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Speaker 1: surround myself with a whole bunch of yes people. They

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Speaker 1: can't tell me when I dropped the ball, right, And

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Speaker 1: so I'm I'm surrounded myself with a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: blunt people that are not afraid to tell me when

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Speaker 1: I messed up, when I need what I need to

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Speaker 1: do better, how I need to improve. And you know,

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Speaker 1: they always say your network is in net worth, right,

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Speaker 1: And I truly believe that, right. And so it's no

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Speaker 1: point of me being part of somebody's network if I

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Speaker 1: can't add value and vice versa, right, Because as much

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Speaker 1: as people want to see me succeed, I want to

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Speaker 1: see them succeed. You this as much, right, um, Especially

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Speaker 1: when they look like me because I know that grind,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's it's really it's

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Speaker 1: really a testament to my network and the folks that

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Speaker 1: you know continuously pushed me to do bigger and better things. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know the interesting part of the more I talk,

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Speaker 1: the more I understand your brand and uh and I

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Speaker 1: would love to have you on my show Wants a

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Speaker 1: Quarter about money Making Conversations. In twin and eighteen, I'm

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Speaker 1: putting together this tour called the Influencers. It's about unique

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Speaker 1: people who are share the stage with me and talk

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Speaker 1: about They tell people their stories, and I really it's

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Speaker 1: so much more to your story because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that you have such a clean understanding about hard working

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Speaker 1: success and a lot of people don't get that. You

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Speaker 1: know what do who taught you that or what did

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Speaker 1: you pick up those little gems to understand that this

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Speaker 1: is what I have to do to win? So it's funny. Um,

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Speaker 1: I read a lot. I read a lot, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: I read a lot of history, but I read I

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Speaker 1: read a lot of biographies. I want to know, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, how folks overcame hurdles, right, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Joe Lewis right or it is you know Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama when he made it, like I want to know,

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Speaker 1: right because I can take a little piece of that

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Speaker 1: and add it to my story. Right. And So one,

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Speaker 1: I read a lot. I mean, I mean I read

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Speaker 1: a lot. I've fallen asleep often times with Slavery on

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Speaker 1: page forty eight, right. Um, so I read a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's one. And then to um, you know, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Marquis as other people in my network, Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we constantly just have sessions, just just brainstormy sessions right

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Speaker 1: where we get together and we say, look, this is

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing, this is where I'm at. You know. Um.

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Speaker 1: I was speaking to actually Marquise about a huge board

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Speaker 1: commitment I got for the FCR, and I was overthinking

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Speaker 1: and I was saying, look, I don't think she's gonna

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Speaker 1: come on board. And before I could even get it out,

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Speaker 1: and you know, in one of our cars, she said,

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Speaker 1: how can I be involved? I gotta be involved with this? Right?

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Speaker 1: And so you know, the ability to talk that stuff

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Speaker 1: through with like minded folks is it is valuable, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? So a man, uh, I appreciate you,

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Speaker 1: and uh Gatson is a is a good uh person

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Speaker 1: to have in my life. You know. He he tells

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Speaker 1: me how great I am and I sometimes don't understand it,

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Speaker 1: but I I just said, thank you. Uh, I'm now

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Speaker 1: you're part of my family. Mr Pope. That means it

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Speaker 1: once a quarter, you gotta talk to me and I

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Speaker 1: want you to be a part of my influencer campaign. Okay,

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